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Putting a wrap on the Under-18 Women’s World Championship · The PodKaz: USCHO Women's Hockey

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Speaker 1: Usccho dot com. Hi, welcome to the podcast. I'm Todd
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Speaker 1: Lusky here with a weary Nicole Hasey from Nova Scotia,
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Speaker 1: where she has covered twenty one games of the Under
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Speaker 1: eighteen Women's World Championship in the span of nine days,
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Speaker 1: seven of them playing days. And uh, Nicole, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you're kind of tired at this point after being at
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Speaker 1: rinks for eighteen hour days.
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Speaker 2: Some of them preemptively apologize for all the yond.
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Speaker 1: The ons as you've mis se me ons. Yeah, US
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Speaker 1: comes away with the gold again with a two nothing
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Speaker 1: victory over Canada on Sunday night. Let's start there, Nicole.
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Speaker 1: Is that a just continuation of the US yes year
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Speaker 1: of good feelings or a year plus of good feelings
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Speaker 1: around USA hockey? What what do you make of it? Well?
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Speaker 2: I see like that for the most part it was
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Speaker 2: a toss up between them and Canada. I think they
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Speaker 2: were well matched. I felt like the US sort of
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Speaker 2: handled I mean, this was maybe one of the poor
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Speaker 2: it was. It was not a great tournament. Neither of
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Speaker 2: those two teams are really challenged for more than a
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Speaker 2: period or two until they got to the gold medal
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Speaker 2: v and that's that's hard to then completely up the
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Speaker 2: intensity and be the team you need to be to
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Speaker 2: be your big rival. But I think the US just
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Speaker 2: sort of handled that a little better. There's probably an
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Speaker 2: interesting side we could go off at some point. I
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Speaker 2: always feel like happy Canada can get very stuck in
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Speaker 2: their ways, particularly I think at this age when they're
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Speaker 2: very much trying to teach them to like follow your
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Speaker 2: system and make your habits. I mean, that's a thing
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Speaker 2: I felt about the senior team, and then that like
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Speaker 2: really compounds down here and I did feel a little
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Speaker 2: bit that like, sometimes you just need to like your
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Speaker 2: players cook. And I know that can be really weird
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Speaker 2: to say at seventeen, but I felt like, like, for example,
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Speaker 2: the US's first goal was base set play that the
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Speaker 2: two players chose to try themselves off a face off,
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Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody at Canada does allowed to
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Speaker 2: make that decision any do player. So I just think
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Speaker 2: it's a different approach. You know, it's been Certainly, there's
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Speaker 2: nothing you can take away Canada does one a couple
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Speaker 2: of olds at this level. They're obviously been doing pretty
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Speaker 2: well at the senior level, have all the Olympic holds,
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Speaker 2: so it's hard to criticize some of it, but I
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Speaker 2: do think that there was a system set up. The
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Speaker 2: games didn't necessarily provide a whole lot of competition, and
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Speaker 2: then when it came time to sort of execute that play,
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Speaker 2: and I'm not sure the players were in the best
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Speaker 2: position to do it, but it was one of those games.
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Speaker 2: I compared it like an old Wisconsin Minnesota game or
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Speaker 2: now maybe in Wisconsin Ohio state. Like it was just
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Speaker 2: sloppy and chippy and messy in the best possible way.
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Speaker 2: Nobody helped position possession for a while, right, it was
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Speaker 2: just back and forth and you know, lots of slapper
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Speaker 2: at the pucks and whoever comes away with it is
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Speaker 2: going to get a chance. And but when you're you're
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Speaker 2: so set in your system and then never get set
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Speaker 2: off in your offensive zone. I think that left some
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Speaker 2: their players not quite sure what to do, if that
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Speaker 2: makes sense.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, referees let them play, which it really did.
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Speaker 1: We got to be taken to let them play, meaning
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Speaker 1: you can get away with a lot, and we've seen
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Speaker 1: that happen in college to we even that, you know,
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Speaker 1: in some of the biggest games of the season. It's
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Speaker 1: just like referees have decided unless it's blatant, we don't
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Speaker 1: want to play a role in this. So you know,
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Speaker 1: figure it out. How did How did you feel like
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Speaker 1: that maybe played into the just kind of the flow
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Speaker 1: of that game. How it how it? Uh? You know,
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Speaker 1: it continued to you know, nobody got the power plays.
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Speaker 1: There's very few power play chances to try and change
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Speaker 1: momentum or do any of those kinds of things. So
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Speaker 1: it really just felt like a let's let's let you
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Speaker 1: guys decide it out here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean that bit was nice, right, and I don't
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Speaker 2: feel like it got out of hand at any point,
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Speaker 2: and so I feel like that is that an AIDS thing?
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Speaker 2: I don't know, But there were a couple of times.
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Speaker 2: It's so interesting too, because you're in a position like
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Speaker 2: people out here in Cape Brighton, like they don't watch
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Speaker 2: a Tunnel Women talkie. They definitely don't watch it at
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Speaker 2: this level. So there were times that the crowd really
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Speaker 2: wanted a penalty and I was like, yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 2: I that is getting called a whole lot of places,
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Speaker 2: but I was, you know, I was sitting next to
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Speaker 2: the reporter from the local newspaper and he was like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: this is more physical than I thought. He's like everybody
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Speaker 2: told me it would be. He's like, but this is
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Speaker 2: even more than I thought. But you know, there would
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Speaker 2: be a lot of shoulder to shoulder and there was
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Speaker 2: a lot of sorts smush people up against class and
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Speaker 2: they're just kind of never gonna call that, you know.
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Speaker 2: So it was nice to keep the flow of the game.
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Speaker 2: I mean I say that there was no flow to
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Speaker 2: that game. The game was was, like I said, a
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Speaker 2: hot mess, complimentary, best possible way, but nobody was doing
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Speaker 2: what they thought they wanted to be able to do.
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Speaker 2: So it was kind of who dealt with that the best.
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Speaker 2: And I think one of the big things that the
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Speaker 2: US did was was very well in transition, so the
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Speaker 2: way that they sort of turned a turno because again
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Speaker 2: nobody's like there's turnovers and the PEPs hopping and if
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Speaker 2: you if there's a chance like the US has had
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Speaker 2: in the other direction. And one of the things that
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Speaker 2: I think Canada sometimes struggled with and in coach Piki's
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Speaker 2: Sanahara talked about early on, was they were really trying
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Speaker 2: to put the idea in their head of defense first
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Speaker 2: that like it's fine to get involved on the offense,
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Speaker 2: but like defense turns into offense, and if you cheat
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Speaker 2: too far forward like that, you can get away with
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Speaker 2: that against you know, Hungary or Citzerlin, but you can't
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Speaker 2: get away with that against some other teams. Chuck, you
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Speaker 2: would also have been a team that would have given
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Speaker 2: them problems with some of that. And so I thought
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Speaker 2: the US took advantage of their breaks when they had them.
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Speaker 2: And also Bianca, I think it's beer TIERI played a
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Speaker 2: spectacular game and that she just was absolutely outstanding and
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Speaker 2: coming into this see this tournament, I would have thought
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Speaker 2: we're gonna stick me, was gonna play every game. She
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Speaker 2: kind of did last tournament and had a long shutout
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Speaker 2: screak and they split time early. But it's britty tier
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Speaker 2: I always want to do. It's not b R I,
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Speaker 2: it's b I R Bird Tiery was the goalie that
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Speaker 2: got the winds in the summer series. So essentially it
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Speaker 2: is the only goalie that has to beat Canada in
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Speaker 2: several years at this age level. And so nobsa happy
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Speaker 2: would want to say it. They were, They were very diplomatic,
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Speaker 2: go to all our bullies, but I think the decision
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Speaker 2: was to go with her all along and it was
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Speaker 2: a very good one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, how about the environment in that building? Obviously a
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Speaker 1: pro Canada crowd, but a good pocket of American family
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Speaker 1: and friends. And it did seem like the Canadian fans
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Speaker 1: were trying to will their team for a lot of
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Speaker 1: that game, and it there was one gentleman in the
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Speaker 1: front row and you kept seeing banging on the glass
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Speaker 1: throughout the night. To talk a little bit about that,
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Speaker 1: you know, part of just that the evening of how
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Speaker 1: the atmosphere was compared to other events like this you've seen,
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Speaker 1: which you know, I mean, I remember was it in
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Speaker 1: Chechia that there was a I don't know if it
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Speaker 1: was that U eighteen or Women's Worlds, but that was
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Speaker 1: seniors but yeah, that was seniors. But it was just
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Speaker 1: like this was a massive crowd that was just incredibly
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Speaker 1: like influential in getting their team involved and keeping them
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Speaker 1: going at some points.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Side note is the first application for U eighteens
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Speaker 2: for next year came from Czechia. So I'm very hopeful
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Speaker 2: that that's where we're going next year because I agree
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Speaker 2: that problem was amazing and they the IHF and and
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Speaker 2: Chechia did a great job. They like created a beer
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Speaker 2: good note side and kept people around and like made
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Speaker 2: it an event, which is just a thing that we
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Speaker 2: don't see a ton on the U eighteen side. So
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Speaker 2: fingers crossed. But yes, it was over five thousand people,
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Speaker 2: which I think has to be by far the I
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Speaker 2: was just crowd. I've seen it at U eighteen when Sweden,
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Speaker 2: when we were in Sweden, Sweden made the gold Metal game,
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Speaker 2: and so they did fill that barn, but it wasn't
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Speaker 2: as big and unfortunately and that like immediately the US
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Speaker 2: took over and so that crowd was lowed for a while.
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Speaker 2: But then and I would say Canada's crowd last night
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Speaker 2: was so nice, so loud, so so far they were
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Speaker 2: willing them. I wanted them to get a goal just
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Speaker 2: for that crowd. People have been so nice and so
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Speaker 2: wonderful and have come to games. I mean there have been,
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Speaker 2: you know, some of them sparsely attended. Particularly we moved
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Speaker 2: from a rank to ad like I think about twelve
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Speaker 2: hundred seats to this bigger barn starting at quarterfinals, and
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Speaker 2: they you know, they filled it for the first quarter
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Speaker 2: final with kids and just have done a really good
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Speaker 2: job about getting people there, and a ton of people
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Speaker 2: in Canada to gear were there for the Browns medal game,
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Speaker 2: so that was nice. I will see to several Most
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Speaker 2: of the crowds stayed around for the whole postgame ceremony
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Speaker 2: and we're like applauding the Americans and cheering for the
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Speaker 2: girls that were named to like the All Star team
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Speaker 2: and things like that. So the crowd was just really
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Speaker 2: cool and nice, and I thought it was pretty awesome
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Speaker 2: that everybody got to play in that atmosphere and it
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Speaker 2: was fun. The Americans basically said like, yeah, we we
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Speaker 2: liked getting we love playing in that environment. We liked
9:09
Speaker 2: getting to make them a little quiet. And so because
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Speaker 2: I'm petty, I appreciated that about of petty, Like the
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Speaker 2: girls are like, yeah, that was awesome. You know, it's
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Speaker 2: the biggest probably played in front of it. Also, it
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Speaker 2: was nice to shut it down. So no, it was
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Speaker 2: it was spectacular. It was essentially a sellout. I think
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Speaker 2: that's they were thinking. That was the most people that
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Speaker 2: ever watched hockey in that barn. There's a queue. I
9:30
Speaker 2: don't remember all the initials, but the queue. The Quebec's
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Speaker 2: league plays there, and they said they do get decent crowds,
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Speaker 2: but not usually quite that big, So it was fun.
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Speaker 2: They had signs and flags and just the atmosphere was spectacular.
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Speaker 2: So that was amazing. And they never gave up on that,
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Speaker 2: you know, because honestly that that game could have turned
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Speaker 2: at any moment, and so it was allowed for sixty minutes,
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Speaker 2: which was amazing. And any girl from the Atlantic region
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Speaker 2: got massive, so like even if you're from Pei, if
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Speaker 2: you're from anywhere near ear, those girls got massive cheers.
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Speaker 2: Which was.
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Speaker 1: The US and Canada playing for the gold medal. Not
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Speaker 1: a surprise Finland ending up in the relegation game. A surprise.
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Speaker 1: Finland losing the relegation game and going down a division
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Speaker 1: next season a massive shock. What can you say about that?
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Speaker 1: That whole situation of how they got there and then
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Speaker 1: not being able to you know, win that game to
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Speaker 1: stay up. It just feels like for a country that's
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Speaker 1: been you know, close to that, you know, in metal
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Speaker 1: games kind of environment, that's that's a big drop.
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Speaker 2: I will say, if you told me, you know, ten
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Speaker 2: days ago, that that's where we'd be, I would be surprised.
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Speaker 2: After watching Finland play in their first game, not super surprised.
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Speaker 2: And then afterwards when you're talking to the coach and
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Speaker 2: the players, and they kind of don't have any idea
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Speaker 2: to say about what went wrong, and that kind of
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Speaker 2: happened over and over again. It's like, well, they're prepared,
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Speaker 2: but they're just they're scared or we don't know what happened.
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Speaker 2: And so there was a lot of non answers, which
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Speaker 2: was i mean, a just frustrating from a journalistic standpoint,
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Speaker 2: but also like and again it could be it's like
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Speaker 2: they could have been saying different things in their non
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Speaker 2: English interviews, right, I mean, their Finnish interviews, But yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's they just looked it looked like they were standing
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Speaker 2: still a kind of at all times. I mean, and
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Speaker 2: even other coaches were saying like, well, we prepared, we
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Speaker 2: watched tape, but we just saw that they weren't moving
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Speaker 2: their feet at all, so we just knew we could
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Speaker 2: skate around them. So yeah, having watched them throughout the tournament,
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Speaker 2: that they were relegated is not at all of surprise.
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Speaker 2: But from that that larger talking point, yeah, I.
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Speaker 1: Hope.
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Speaker 2: My concern is that, I mean, clearly they're not developing
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Speaker 2: the way that they can and should be. We know
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Speaker 2: that just generally women talking is not get enough attention
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Speaker 2: from the federations. You know, it's all it's all a hierarchy, right,
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Speaker 2: Like there are countries that would love to get the
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Speaker 2: attention Finland gives, but Finland would love to get what
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Speaker 2: the US and you know, Checkia now, and so it's
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Speaker 2: it is a hierarchy. But they they have a team
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Speaker 2: in their league, like the it's what is it, the
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Speaker 2: Aurora Liga. They created like fundamentally a development team like
12:19
Speaker 2: the US development team that plays. It's called Team Quotare
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Speaker 2: and it's like essentially a high school for their hockey girls.
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Speaker 2: And so they did that a few years back, and
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Speaker 2: this is where we're at a few years into that experiment.
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Speaker 2: So that's bad. And so yeah, I guess my concern
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Speaker 2: is that this is like, well, it depends on what
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Speaker 2: the response is. Is the response like this is a
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Speaker 2: national embarrassment and we have to fix it, or is
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Speaker 2: this response this isn't a national embarrassment and we're never
12:46
Speaker 2: giving you money again and figure it out, you know,
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Speaker 2: and so like it it sort of depends on and
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Speaker 2: what that response looks like now to decide how this
12:55
Speaker 2: is going to go down. I think and hope that
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Speaker 2: that you know, there I know that they're embarrassed and
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Speaker 2: I know that this is really concerning and so yeah,
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Speaker 2: but you know, this isn't a super huge shock. Haven't
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Speaker 2: watched them the last few years, like they weren't getting better,
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Speaker 2: they weren't improving, and so hopefully this makes some people
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Speaker 2: that come pay attention. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the the big question going forward is that
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Speaker 1: is this just a shrug of the shoulders, like, eh,
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Speaker 1: do we does anyone care enough to to make it
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Speaker 1: mean something that that's where we're going to look over
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Speaker 1: the next couple of years, because I mean, let's be honest,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna, i mean, unless something crazy happens, they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be back up for the twenty twenty eight main event
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Speaker 1: back in Canada, So which also feels like it's a
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Speaker 1: million years away just from talking about that now. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's you've lost now really two years of your your
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Speaker 1: age group of having that team competing for anything.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, and it makes me wonder like all the
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Speaker 2: non like non IAGEFF competitions, like they play in various
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Speaker 2: different things, like will they be invited to some of
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Speaker 2: that stuff? Will other teams be scheduling those?
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 2: So not only do they lose that competition of the
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Speaker 2: one you know, ten day I JEF tournament, but also
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Speaker 2: what happens in between, which clearly wasn't preparing them enough
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Speaker 2: as it was.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, right, I mean, there has to be a
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Speaker 1: team going down every year. But I don't think any
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Speaker 1: of us thought it was unly Finland going in.
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Speaker 2: So no, But like the flip side of that is
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Speaker 2: a way to go Hungry Hungary who had not been
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Speaker 2: at the top for I believe it's never it's twelve
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Speaker 2: or fourteen years.
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of years, and it's been a long
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Speaker 1: time that a team that just came up stayed up.
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Speaker 1: So they played with the of heart.
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Speaker 2: They scored one goal the whole tournament before the relegation game,
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Speaker 2: and then scored seven. And I went through the IHF
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Speaker 2: record book and I could not find a women's team
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Speaker 2: from Hungary that had scored seven goals, so I don't, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they had. Their one goal was to get Switzerland in
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Speaker 2: which was like sort of the pre relegation. The loser
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Speaker 2: in that game was going to go to the relegation,
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Speaker 2: so that was like the pre relegation relegation, and they
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Speaker 2: scored one goal in that game, and that was it.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, just upon of heart. It was even just
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Speaker 2: the approach, like the way that they would come out
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Speaker 2: after a game where they lost a bunch, they were
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Speaker 2: ready to talk about what they had learned and how
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Speaker 2: it was going to help them. And I felt like
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Speaker 2: there was something to being sort of the humble, like
15:43
Speaker 2: we're new here and whatever happens happened, whereas it felt
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Speaker 2: like everything from Finland was like a gut punch that
15:49
Speaker 2: they didn't know how to react to. And so maybe
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Speaker 2: just that that attitude of it, like you could see
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Speaker 2: that hungry learned things in some of those games they
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Speaker 2: got blown out and then used that in that relegation game,
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Speaker 2: and maybe that approach alone was was the difference.
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Speaker 1: Right, last thing I want to get to before we
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Speaker 1: take a break and then get into uh NCAA results
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Speaker 1: from last week. You've been to five of these now,
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Speaker 1: is that right? Sixth? Something like that? Five? What are
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Speaker 1: you going to remember about this one in terms of
16:22
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes so things that you know, we
16:24
Speaker 1: a lot of us watch these games and saw the
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Speaker 1: TV production. What what are you going to remember of
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Speaker 1: what you saw, what you experienced, you know, in those buildings?
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Speaker 1: Two you know, to make this experience stand out.
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Speaker 2: One thing that I thought was very cool and that
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Speaker 2: I think is more prevalent here in Canada than at home,
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Speaker 2: was that like that first stadium was on Native I'm sorry,
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Speaker 2: they use First Nations land or Indigenous land, and like
16:56
Speaker 2: we so everything in Canada is usually in English and
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Speaker 2: in French, and like a good percentage of the so
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Speaker 2: like every goal announcement, every roster, all of that stuff.
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Speaker 2: But we had a couple of games where it was
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Speaker 2: in English and the local UH First Nations language. They
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Speaker 2: had the player of the tournament got a beaded flower,
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Speaker 2: which is the flower of Nova Scotia, but with beaded
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Speaker 2: by First Nations. There was just a very cool inter
17:21
Speaker 2: weaving of that into the whole experience, from being in
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Speaker 2: that first UH arena to at this separate arena, like
17:31
Speaker 2: they made specific Hockey Canada jerseys using iconography from the
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Speaker 2: First Nations people they were. They had a whole day
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Speaker 2: where most of the people that got tickets that day
17:44
Speaker 2: were from that from the First Nations group. And then
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Speaker 2: they also and I just I'm sure we'll hear about this,
17:51
Speaker 2: but I just want to say I thought it was
17:52
Speaker 2: really cool that the local immigration office was giving out
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Speaker 2: tickets to newly minted Canadians and inviting them to the
17:59
Speaker 2: tournament as like this is our nation's sport. This is
18:03
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a little funny, but also yeah, welcome
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Speaker 2: to winter and Kate Breton go to a hockey game,
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Speaker 2: which was yes, it's a little few and funny, but
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Speaker 2: also just with everything that's going on, particularly for us
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Speaker 2: kind of close to home, I just was very telling
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Speaker 2: the acknowledgment of like, you're welcome here and we're gonna
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Speaker 2: help make your transition easier. Uh So there were I
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Speaker 2: think maybe the socio political parts of it might stand
18:29
Speaker 2: out more than anything, but I just, uh, hockey soul
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Speaker 2: beloved here and it was I mean they had daddy
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Speaker 2: daughter contests and just the sort of stuff that like
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Speaker 2: there were people that were excited for women's hockey to
18:42
Speaker 2: be here in this part of the country and to
18:44
Speaker 2: cheer for girls that are from six hours away but like, hey,
18:47
Speaker 2: they're from my province kind of thing.
18:49
Speaker 1: And.
18:50
Speaker 2: Just a real love and embrace of like this is
18:56
Speaker 2: these are future people, like nobody in this The stands
18:59
Speaker 2: yesterday cared that these girls were sixteen to eighteen and
19:03
Speaker 2: may never make an Olympic team, like these are the
19:05
Speaker 2: you know, the best girls in the country and we
19:07
Speaker 2: want to watch them in year for them and that
19:09
Speaker 2: was really cool, you know, like maybe a national championship
19:12
Speaker 2: game would be the other time we really see that, like,
19:16
Speaker 2: you know, so, I yeah, I think that's probably it,
19:19
Speaker 2: particularly because sometimes we've gone and we're very small towns
19:22
Speaker 2: in some of these countries and it's not necessarily the
19:26
Speaker 2: most uh like plewed in fan base, and so it
19:32
Speaker 2: just felt like nobody cared that that it was anything
19:34
Speaker 2: other than great hockey they were watching yesterday and that
19:37
Speaker 2: was fun cool.
19:39
Speaker 1: All right, that's a good win to end it. We
19:41
Speaker 1: will take a break. When we come back, we will
19:43
Speaker 1: talk about all the hat tricks that we saw over
19:45
Speaker 1: the weekend in the NCAAA hockey. Stay with us on
19:48
Speaker 1: the podcast. We'll back with the podcast. Todd Moluski and
19:59
Speaker 1: the Cole Hazy here with you for Let's talk about
20:03
Speaker 1: some some results from last week in NCAA hockey. I
20:07
Speaker 1: want to start with Yale, ranked number thirteen last week,
20:11
Speaker 1: had games against teams ranked ahead of them in the
20:14
Speaker 1: USACHO dot Com Pole number twelve, Colgate on Friday, number ten,
20:19
Speaker 1: Cornell on Saturday, and they got him. Got two home
20:23
Speaker 1: wins there, three nothing against Colgate on Friday, three to
20:26
Speaker 1: one against Cornell Saturday. The name that we're learning over
20:31
Speaker 1: the last month or so is Samson Fry, who is
20:35
Speaker 1: a freshman goalie at Yale. She made twenty nine saves Friday,
20:40
Speaker 1: thirty three saves Saturday. These numbers are are getting kind
20:44
Speaker 1: of ridiculous. Eight to h one, eight starts, point six
20:47
Speaker 1: y five goals against, point nine to seven to one
20:49
Speaker 1: save percentage, four shutouts. Now that's those are numbers that
20:55
Speaker 1: if you you know, if that stretches over a long
20:57
Speaker 1: part of the season. You're in the Patty Cask conversation
21:00
Speaker 1: and I don't know if she's going to get there,
21:01
Speaker 1: given that she had a kind of a later start,
21:06
Speaker 1: but man, what a run over the last I guess
21:09
Speaker 1: month and change what we're talking about now.
21:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, we both sort of went, wait, who so
21:14
Speaker 2: apologies and yeah, that's awesome. I mean, it's it's kind
21:18
Speaker 2: of crazy to me that we're in January and we're
21:20
Speaker 2: still talking about sort of new teams at the forefront,
21:23
Speaker 2: right like Princeton making the push, now Yale up to
21:26
Speaker 2: would you say ten in.
21:27
Speaker 1: The NPI, ten in the NPI, right, Princeville at seven.
21:30
Speaker 1: So that's it's those are those are real, real legitimate contenders.
21:35
Speaker 2: Right now and ahead of the Kirks, Clerkson's and Colgates.
21:38
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a getting to the point where like, yeah,
21:43
Speaker 2: you can't. I there's not a ton of room to
21:46
Speaker 2: make ground anymore. I mean we're talking what six ish weeks,
21:52
Speaker 2: like it's.
21:56
Speaker 1: Two or something like that. Seventh I think.
22:01
Speaker 2: Ish, I'll take it. Yeah, I mean it's just it's
22:03
Speaker 2: kind of nuts. So yeah, I you know, good for
22:07
Speaker 2: Yo because they definitely weren't on the radar for a
22:09
Speaker 2: little while and have you know, it's like we've been
22:13
Speaker 2: talking about all on like you have to win. You
22:15
Speaker 2: have to win your games. You have to take care
22:16
Speaker 2: of your own business, and you do that and not
22:19
Speaker 2: worry about everybody else, and you end up we're Princeton
22:21
Speaker 2: and Yale are right now, and that's really like kind
22:24
Speaker 2: of the end of that right Like they're taking you
22:26
Speaker 2: gotta just go out and do what you need to
22:28
Speaker 2: do and when the games you're supposed to win and
22:31
Speaker 2: apparently pull a goalie out having enough spectacular rookie season,
22:37
Speaker 2: you know, so good for them, and I think we'll
22:40
Speaker 2: definitely be paying attendancy and what comes next.
22:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, a good run here for Yale. Like I mentioned
22:47
Speaker 1: up the ten and the NPI seventeen and seven for
22:49
Speaker 1: the season, Princeton seventeen and four. So these are two
22:55
Speaker 1: teams that may not have been in that group that
22:59
Speaker 1: we were looking at at the start of the season
23:01
Speaker 1: in ECAC hockey, but have really pushed their way into
23:05
Speaker 1: the uh the conversation for not only you know, league championships,
23:10
Speaker 1: but at large bits and NCA tournament, which is which
23:13
Speaker 1: is great to see that there's you know, teams that
23:17
Speaker 1: you know, probably thought at the start of the season
23:20
Speaker 1: that yeah, we're good enough to make a push this season,
23:24
Speaker 1: but then they have to go out and do it, and.
23:25
Speaker 2: They're doing that exactly or that I mean, as we
23:28
Speaker 2: talked about with Prince of last week, had a rough
23:30
Speaker 2: couple first weeks and it looked and everybody went well
23:33
Speaker 2: at the end of that and you know, they we
23:36
Speaker 2: they fell off radar and and they just kept doing
23:38
Speaker 2: their stuff, and so yeah, I agree, it's and and
23:41
Speaker 2: by the other course, like maybe we were you know,
23:44
Speaker 2: sort of too focused on teams based on what they
23:47
Speaker 2: did last year and and stayed you know, stayed too
23:49
Speaker 2: focused on that going ahead and not not seeing what
23:52
Speaker 2: these teams were doing to start. It's, uh, you know,
23:56
Speaker 2: we've only got so many screens we can watch. It's
23:58
Speaker 2: not easy. But yeah, I think it's pretty interesting. I know,
24:02
Speaker 2: the people get prostrated with the same couple of teams
24:04
Speaker 2: at the top, and while that hasn't changed, there's sure
24:07
Speaker 2: been a whole heck of volatility. Blow say, the top
24:10
Speaker 2: three and that I mean Penn State going up, U
24:14
Speaker 2: and D coming down now, Prince and Neale in this conversation,
24:18
Speaker 2: and the Holy Cross in Minnesota State being in the
24:22
Speaker 2: NPI top fifteen. There's just it's it's been really interesting,
24:26
Speaker 2: and I think it says a lot of good things
24:28
Speaker 2: about like where we're headed, right.
24:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so. And I hope that means maybe
24:33
Speaker 1: some belief then too for teams that you know, this
24:36
Speaker 1: year maybe are in that you know, fifteen to twenty
24:39
Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty twenty two range of the NPI where
24:42
Speaker 1: they're you know, upper half, but not necessarily challenge for
24:46
Speaker 1: a challenging for anything, whereas maybe next year or the
24:49
Speaker 1: year after they you know, with the right group with
24:53
Speaker 1: the right mentality and outlook can put together a season
24:57
Speaker 1: that can also challenge. And that's I think. I think
25:00
Speaker 1: that's what everyone hopes for around the game, is that
25:03
Speaker 1: there's more teams that are feeling like they have a
25:06
Speaker 1: chance at something.
25:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely so.
25:10
Speaker 1: Also in ECAC last week, Brown with a six to
25:13
Speaker 1: two win over Colgate, another rough weekend for Coliate, dropping
25:18
Speaker 1: the twelve twelve and one overall. Munique Lyons and Margo
25:22
Speaker 1: Norhead each had two goals for Brown in that win.
25:25
Speaker 1: A good win for Brown, but again Coldiate now pulling
25:29
Speaker 1: up the NPI at number twelve after something gone on
25:35
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm wrong, that's sixteen, sorry, sixteen for
25:39
Speaker 1: Colgate looking at the wrong school there, so but right,
25:42
Speaker 1: they had looked like they're starting to climb out of it.
25:47
Speaker 1: Now we're looking at a real, real uphill climb and
25:51
Speaker 1: probably looking like a team that's gonna have to win
25:55
Speaker 1: the ECAC playoffs to get into the tournament.
25:58
Speaker 2: I assume that the East Tournament is going to be
26:01
Speaker 2: an absolute chaoss fest.
26:03
Speaker 1: Could be because just.
26:04
Speaker 2: Clearly anybody can beat anybody, and not in the coach's cliche,
26:07
Speaker 2: we all say that about everybody in our godfriend sort
26:10
Speaker 2: of way. Six goals from Brown is really good as well,
26:14
Speaker 2: So I think there's probably quite a bit to build
26:16
Speaker 2: from on there. As soon as you said they scored
26:19
Speaker 2: six goals, I hadn't seen the box score, but you
26:21
Speaker 2: absolutely know that those two money clients and Margo noor
26:23
Speaker 2: had were involved. So those two have been sort of
26:28
Speaker 2: quietly a really great offensive engine for them. And yeah,
26:32
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that they won't at least make a
26:36
Speaker 2: really solid run at doing doing some fun stuff and
26:39
Speaker 2: upsetting teams in the postseason.
26:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. Over in the w c h A, this is
26:44
Speaker 1: where things got just like the goal scoring got out
26:47
Speaker 1: of hand at some points here last week. But I
26:50
Speaker 1: want to I want to start with a different result.
26:53
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about how say it in Minnesota
26:55
Speaker 1: in a minute. But another rough weekend for Duluth too.
27:00
Speaker 1: Tie with Saint Cloud State on Friday and Saint Cloud
27:03
Speaker 1: won the shootout, won nothing, Duluth up to nothing, and
27:06
Speaker 1: then a game with five minutes to play and Avery
27:10
Speaker 1: Ferrell Melee Peon scored for Saint Cloud to tie that up,
27:15
Speaker 1: send it to overtime and the Huskies won that one
27:18
Speaker 1: in the shootout and then a five to win for
27:21
Speaker 1: Saint Cloud on Saturday. Good weekend for Emilia Carico in
27:26
Speaker 1: goal for the Huskies thirty nine saves Friday, thirty seven Saturday.
27:32
Speaker 1: But for Duluth four and two in twenty twenty six
27:36
Speaker 1: and hasn't scored more than two goals in any of
27:38
Speaker 1: those games. That's that's not what I don't think. I mean,
27:45
Speaker 1: we're talking about the right word there, right, they're not.
27:50
Speaker 1: They're not like in danger of relegation or anything like
27:52
Speaker 1: that like Finland was. But it feels like good a
27:55
Speaker 1: team that we we were expecting a lot more from
27:59
Speaker 1: coming out of the gate in twenty twenty six, and uh,
28:03
Speaker 1: this is kind of the opposite, almost like he'll turn
28:06
Speaker 1: it around the other way and that's the direction they've gone.
28:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I and I I'm not any closer to having
28:12
Speaker 2: answers this week, that's for sure. It's it's it's head scratching, honestly.
28:16
Speaker 2: I mean I I they're of such good offensive talent
28:20
Speaker 2: on that team, so I what where the disconnect is?
28:24
Speaker 2: And we know how great ed Gaston can be. We
28:26
Speaker 2: saw how good they were against Wisconsin and then it's
28:29
Speaker 2: just like these have been the two weeks that followed that,
28:31
Speaker 2: and they're like, where did that team go?
28:34
Speaker 3: But yeah, I expect I mean, yeah, I just those
28:40
Speaker 3: their offense is really really skilled, really fads, really talented,
28:43
Speaker 3: have great shots, and Amili Chuco is really good.
28:48
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, and obviously had a great weekend.
28:50
Speaker 2: But I just see I expect them to put in
28:52
Speaker 2: more goals than to a game as they have. So yeah,
28:56
Speaker 2: lots of head scratching up there. Maybe we'll have to
28:58
Speaker 2: uh talk to Well and some of the other folks
29:01
Speaker 2: and get some of our deluse friends to tell us
29:03
Speaker 2: what they've they've been able to zee, because yeah, I'm watching,
29:06
Speaker 2: you know, like we watched them again. We played really
29:09
Speaker 2: well against Wisconsin, and it's like if that, I mean,
29:12
Speaker 2: it's kind of how I always feel like that you
29:13
Speaker 2: watch a team do something so Critney, you're like, well,
29:15
Speaker 2: what have you been doing? Like why did I watch
29:17
Speaker 2: you play so bad some other games? So yeah, I
29:21
Speaker 2: imagine that the coach of staff feels like we do.
29:23
Speaker 2: But they're getting to the point where this is, yeah,
29:26
Speaker 2: like concerning for them when it comes to postseas and
29:28
Speaker 2: other things like that. So they got to figure something
29:31
Speaker 2: out sooner or other than later.
29:35
Speaker 1: Big weekend for individual performances around the w c h A.
29:39
Speaker 1: Abby Murphy a week after, you know, having the most
29:43
Speaker 1: ridiculous assists of the season, comes back out at US
29:47
Speaker 1: an eleven to one win over Buviggi Stadium, Bumigi on
29:51
Speaker 1: Saturday and has four goals and two assists. Ava Lindsay
29:55
Speaker 1: three goals and in that one. But I'm you know.
29:59
Speaker 1: Abbi Murphy scored thirty three goals as a junior, scored
30:03
Speaker 1: thirty three goals as a senior. She's now already at
30:06
Speaker 1: thirty three goals in her fifth year in just twenty
30:09
Speaker 1: four games. Leads scoring race.
30:13
Speaker 2: Old scoring lead last year, Yeah, she.
30:16
Speaker 1: Had it until the last couple of games. I believe
30:19
Speaker 1: Leila Edwards passed her on the last that was total
30:27
Speaker 1: right up there exactly. And so she leads the points
30:31
Speaker 1: raced by twelve points. She leads the goals race by six.
30:34
Speaker 1: I believe we were talking before that this Olympic break
30:38
Speaker 1: is going to negatively impact some stats races in terms
30:42
Speaker 1: of the players that are that are going to be gone.
30:44
Speaker 1: Well maybe not for Habby. I mean this is like
30:47
Speaker 1: she's setting herself up if she has another couple of
30:49
Speaker 1: games this weekend that with a lot of points, she
30:53
Speaker 1: might have a she might come back with a lead
30:56
Speaker 1: after missing eight games.
30:57
Speaker 2: It's absolutely bonker like, first of all, to keep getting
31:01
Speaker 2: better when you were already leading the country and goal,
31:04
Speaker 2: and that every single opponent knows who she is and
31:07
Speaker 2: what she can do, and she is still doing I
31:09
Speaker 2: mean we talked about this last year. I mean she
31:12
Speaker 2: she arguably has more scoring, like more help around her
31:16
Speaker 2: for scoring than she has in years past, and she's
31:19
Speaker 2: still doing this because I've at not that she's not talented,
31:23
Speaker 2: but I think at times last year I was like,
31:25
Speaker 2: she's the good score goal and so you thought like okay,
31:29
Speaker 2: because if you looked, you know, her linemates just had
31:31
Speaker 2: all the assists for her and you could tell the
31:33
Speaker 2: puck was going to abbey, which, like to be fair,
31:35
Speaker 2: I also would shovel that way. But yeah, I just
31:38
Speaker 2: think that she's doing this in the WHA as a
31:42
Speaker 2: fifth year, Like there are no secrets or surprises here.
31:44
Speaker 2: I mean I guess there are, because nobody knew she
31:46
Speaker 2: was going to pull them across the last week, But
31:48
Speaker 2: I just mean that like defenses and game plans, like
31:51
Speaker 2: you couldn't scout her more if you tried, right, Like
31:54
Speaker 2: every team she's playing knows what they're going up against,
31:56
Speaker 2: and she's going out and scoring four goals. Like it's
31:59
Speaker 2: just it's loungers. I don't have like a better word
32:03
Speaker 2: for it. She's just this. The seal there is sort
32:06
Speaker 2: of unmatched. I think we haven't seen anybody sort of
32:09
Speaker 2: as good or doing that, like maybe when Alex Carpenter
32:12
Speaker 2: was doing that at BC is like the best I
32:16
Speaker 2: could comp I could come up with at the moment.
32:20
Speaker 2: But yeah, I it's it's that nobody is surprised by
32:23
Speaker 2: this and she's still kind of doing it as well.
32:25
Speaker 2: That just leaves me sort of speechless when you watch her,
32:29
Speaker 2: it's just it all looks so effortless. And I think
32:32
Speaker 2: she's having a ton of fun, which helps. She's the
32:34
Speaker 2: type of player that like needs that freedom and enjoy
32:38
Speaker 2: is being a menace and also enjoys, like I mean,
32:45
Speaker 2: I think everybody enjoying what I just I think she's
32:48
Speaker 2: she's at her best when she is is happy and
32:51
Speaker 2: loving the game and they're winning and it's this much fun.
32:57
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun to watch in the Olympics too.
32:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's.
33:01
Speaker 1: Right, that this was not just a a Minnesota thing,
33:08
Speaker 1: because she was doing this at the rivalry series as well,
33:10
Speaker 1: so this is not necessarily limited to college. This is
33:14
Speaker 1: something I think she could really give a boost to
33:17
Speaker 1: the US team if.
33:18
Speaker 2: I remember correctly, with the US and they were playing
33:22
Speaker 2: really well together. I think it helps when you have
33:25
Speaker 2: two sort of very taled to creative people. I think
33:28
Speaker 2: they feed off each other really well.
33:31
Speaker 1: Sure not to be outdone. Last week, Joy Done scored
33:35
Speaker 1: four times State stop it. Oh sorry, I wasn't even
33:41
Speaker 1: thinking that honestly, but then it came out and like,
33:43
Speaker 1: oh crap, seven to four Ohio State over Minnesota State
33:46
Speaker 1: on Friday in man Cato and Joy Dunn scores four
33:50
Speaker 1: times and Ohio State got this sweep the next day
33:53
Speaker 1: with a four to one win. These are okay, So
33:58
Speaker 1: we've talked about about two players and be gone for
34:00
Speaker 1: a few weeks starting not this weekend coming up, but
34:04
Speaker 1: the next week. So I'm interested in your thoughts on
34:12
Speaker 1: like teams are. Yeah, we're we're ohiose stage Wisconsin Minnesota
34:19
Speaker 1: are gonna be left in a week knowing that, Okay,
34:23
Speaker 1: so next next week, not this coming week, but next
34:25
Speaker 1: week Wisconsin plays at Minnesota the following weekend, ohiose the
34:29
Speaker 1: plays at Wisconsin. So those are these games that we've
34:32
Speaker 1: expected and we know are going to be great, you know,
34:35
Speaker 1: regardless of who's on the ice or not on the ice.
34:38
Speaker 1: But there's gonna be something missing in a lot of those.
34:41
Speaker 2: Well I wanted to double check. So I just been
34:44
Speaker 2: looked in. Like for Ohios three, No. Four, two, four
34:49
Speaker 2: of their top six scorers are going to be at
34:50
Speaker 2: the Olympics right till the spense enjoy done Sai von
34:54
Speaker 2: Hahnen and mere Uniker. That's so it's not just talking
34:58
Speaker 2: about joy done right, like it's it's that that's a
35:01
Speaker 2: large portion of what Ohio State has been able to
35:04
Speaker 2: do this year. I think they're probably going to be
35:07
Speaker 2: the most tested in terms of meeting the rest of
35:10
Speaker 2: the roster to stand up to step up. But I also, like,
35:13
Speaker 2: I don't have a doubt that those players are capable.
35:15
Speaker 2: It's just whether or not they sort of do it
35:18
Speaker 2: in the in the way that the team needs right, Like,
35:20
Speaker 2: it's not always easy when to take on that completely
35:23
Speaker 2: new role. I think the bonus for Wisconsin is that
35:27
Speaker 2: like essentially their their lines are leaving in mass and
35:30
Speaker 2: so it's not pieces going. But like, I don't know
35:34
Speaker 2: if that's that's one way I look at it, like
35:36
Speaker 2: it would be easier to like not replace one person
35:39
Speaker 2: on your line, but to just like move the second
35:42
Speaker 2: line up right. Also, they who had a spectacular weekend. Lacy,
35:48
Speaker 2: even since not making the US roster, has been I think,
35:51
Speaker 2: extra motivated to show some stuff. But yeah, I think
35:55
Speaker 2: I don't know, we none of us know. I'm just hypothesizing,
35:58
Speaker 2: but it does seem like it might be easier. Who knows.
36:03
Speaker 2: I don't have an answer, but it feels like it
36:06
Speaker 2: feels like Ohio State is going to struggle from the
36:11
Speaker 2: the volume of players in their top scory. And I
36:13
Speaker 2: think Minnesota is going to struggle because it's Abbie Murphy.
36:16
Speaker 2: And I think it's not just Abby the goalscorer Abby
36:21
Speaker 2: the playmaker, but I think her personality drives a tonne
36:23
Speaker 2: of what they do and also just her creativity. I
36:26
Speaker 2: think she's a player that elevates everybody around her, and
36:29
Speaker 2: when things are when you're back to do a quarter,
36:31
Speaker 2: when things are not working or whatever, I think Abby
36:34
Speaker 2: is the person that that helps them.
36:35
Speaker 1: Get out of that.
36:36
Speaker 2: So and for Wisconsin, who knows. I just what do
36:40
Speaker 2: you when you talk about so many players leaving, I
36:43
Speaker 2: think it's impossible to replace KK Harvey. So the idea
36:48
Speaker 2: of even talking book somebody taking that role, it seems hilarious.
36:54
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on and but that first.
36:58
Speaker 1: We can talk about KK Harvey, Leila Edwards, Kristen Simms, Adela.
37:05
Speaker 1: All we won, but they're losing their starting goalie and
37:08
Speaker 1: Navid McNaughton, and they have not her more. It's only
37:14
Speaker 1: played a couple of games as a freshman, and so.
37:17
Speaker 2: Her some of these non conference kens, what do you
37:19
Speaker 2: why are you not playing rise? Like every time her
37:22
Speaker 2: lineup came out when they were playing somebody, like even
37:25
Speaker 2: at the holidays. She doesn't need experience.
37:29
Speaker 1: I don't.
37:30
Speaker 2: I don't understand.
37:32
Speaker 1: She played that stone Hill game that ended up with
37:34
Speaker 1: seventeen to two or whatever it was. She's played a
37:38
Speaker 1: third period of a game. I feel like she was
37:42
Speaker 1: in another one. But yeah, and so her first opportunity
37:47
Speaker 1: then is going to be, hey, go play at Ritter
37:51
Speaker 1: against good Luck you know the golfers, Yeah, double checkings.
37:58
Speaker 1: I don't know. I understand, all right, Like they're very
38:01
Speaker 1: different goalies, right, I understand the when you have Avian
38:06
Speaker 1: McNaught on your roster, you player kind of mentality that
38:11
Speaker 1: knowing you're gonna be with her without her for a
38:13
Speaker 1: month player and the ones that you do have her for.
38:18
Speaker 1: But I it really does open up the like the
38:23
Speaker 1: second guessing of if that month does not go well
38:25
Speaker 1: in goal, what has happened with that decision?
38:32
Speaker 2: So we know wiscon also like you're doing that, but
38:36
Speaker 2: also have you know like now you're doing that and
38:40
Speaker 2: not always super solid second and third defensive line, right,
38:45
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, usually every time roster came out
38:49
Speaker 2: in a game where you were like, okay, what's continent handle?
38:51
Speaker 2: That's fine? Why is Aba mcnatton facing the seven shots?
38:55
Speaker 2: I I really think Lord knows who speak who's questioning
39:00
Speaker 2: Mark Johnson?
39:01
Speaker 1: And yet I'm just like you no understand these There's
39:06
Speaker 1: there's a that's a very valid point of like, Okay,
39:09
Speaker 1: he's he's usually made the right decision, so.
39:12
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think I've smarter than then, so clearly
39:15
Speaker 2: I'm in the wrong, But it just it feel it
39:17
Speaker 2: feels not great.
39:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's one of those we're going to have
39:22
Speaker 1: to see because if it goes well, he Obviously she's
39:27
Speaker 1: there for a reason. I mean, she's.
39:31
Speaker 2: She does, but she's also been sitting for a year,
39:33
Speaker 2: and just I don't I think that she will handle
39:37
Speaker 2: things fine, like from a like stop a shot that comes.
39:40
Speaker 1: Out in this sort of situation.
39:41
Speaker 2: But there's all the other things that you just like
39:44
Speaker 2: you said, playing in ridder and all that sort of
39:46
Speaker 2: stuff that I just feel like alonged her to find
39:49
Speaker 2: some of that comfort and not have essentially like your
39:53
Speaker 2: first started because playing Stonehill wasn't even in a college bar.
39:58
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, Dick Seeds. It's head scratching,
40:02
Speaker 2: let's put it that way.
40:03
Speaker 1: Okay, One more result I wanted to get to before
40:06
Speaker 1: we take a break, Merrimac beating Yukon to one overtime
40:11
Speaker 1: last Friday, Avery Anderson scoring the overtime goal after Emma
40:15
Speaker 1: Feffer equalized with just under six minutes to play. There,
40:18
Speaker 1: Yukon thirty seven to seventeen in shots on goal, but
40:21
Speaker 1: can't get that to equal A victory doesn't really cost
40:27
Speaker 1: the Huskies in the NPI, still fifth there, so it's
40:34
Speaker 1: more a could be a speed bump for them. We
40:38
Speaker 1: will see, but it definitely was one of those oh yes,
40:42
Speaker 1: for sure when it came over on Friday.
40:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think two time will tell. I think on
40:49
Speaker 2: this whether it was a bump in the road or
40:51
Speaker 2: a bigger speed bump than we need to worry about.
40:53
Speaker 2: But I think one of the big things that was
40:55
Speaker 2: sort of a topic conversation at the eighteens this week
40:57
Speaker 2: was the idea of like needing to go through adversity,
41:00
Speaker 2: whether that is going down a goal or losing, like
41:03
Speaker 2: that can come in a bunch of different ways, but
41:05
Speaker 2: like you don't know how you're going to react to
41:06
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff until you're in it. And I
41:09
Speaker 2: think it's good to win or lose a couple of
41:12
Speaker 2: games and be in some type of situations these DIY mean,
41:15
Speaker 2: but like put thirty seven shots on goal and score once, right,
41:19
Speaker 2: you said two to one, yes, and like learn from
41:24
Speaker 2: that because that's the only way, Like you don't want
41:26
Speaker 2: to be in that situation in an elimination game. So
41:29
Speaker 2: I think it sort it can't be overstated how important
41:33
Speaker 2: that is, particularly sort of when we're talking obviously this
41:36
Speaker 2: is teenagers at you eighteen, but like don't forget the
41:39
Speaker 2: college kids are still young too, you know. I think
41:41
Speaker 2: sometimes particularly with some of these schools, we talk about
41:45
Speaker 2: them like they're professionals and they are not. And so, yeah,
41:49
Speaker 2: I assume that this is one of those smack on
41:53
Speaker 2: the back of the head, what were you doing, learn
41:55
Speaker 2: from that and move on sort of situations. I trust
41:57
Speaker 2: that that's the case for Yukon, but I guess I
42:00
Speaker 2: will wait and see.
42:01
Speaker 1: Yes, just one more mentioned before we go. Holy Cross
42:07
Speaker 1: up the number fourteen in the us cho dot com
42:10
Speaker 1: poll this week, also fourteenth in the NPI after beating
42:14
Speaker 1: BU four to two on Saturday. Holy Cross sixteen seven
42:18
Speaker 1: and one on the season. So this is a another
42:21
Speaker 1: one of those you know where we didn't we were not? Yeah, right,
42:27
Speaker 1: but it does feel like a little bit of the
42:29
Speaker 1: you know, Hockey East seeming to put in a team
42:33
Speaker 1: that we weren't expecting every year to one in the
42:37
Speaker 1: top spots.
42:39
Speaker 2: Taking some of those points. And I like that they're not.
42:41
Speaker 2: I mean, holy Cross isn't a team that puts a
42:44
Speaker 2: ten of goals in the net overall normally, and so
42:47
Speaker 2: like a four to two wins is a good solid
42:49
Speaker 2: They're not eating these out, is basically what I'm saying.
42:51
Speaker 2: And I think it's good to see that they're not
42:53
Speaker 2: you know, winning one of the games, but they're they're
42:55
Speaker 2: really like putting together an offense, which is nice.
42:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, another quick break, and then we will talk about
43:02
Speaker 1: the bean Pot third place and championship coming up Tuesday night,
43:06
Speaker 1: and the other other games that are coming up on
43:09
Speaker 1: the schedule in NCAA Women's hockey. Stay with us on
43:11
Speaker 1: the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast, Todd and Nicole.
43:23
Speaker 1: To wrap things up this week. Bean Pot Tuesday championship
43:27
Speaker 1: game coming up this week, Harvard will play Boston University
43:31
Speaker 1: for the championship seven thirty eastern on Tuesday, after Boston
43:34
Speaker 1: College and Northeastern have the third place game at four
43:38
Speaker 1: to thirty eastern. Again, these games at TD Garden, which
43:42
Speaker 1: we hope, like we mentioned last week, we'll have a
43:44
Speaker 1: a good crowd to cheer this one on. It was
43:47
Speaker 1: cool seeing that last season Harvard and BU again just
43:54
Speaker 1: saw this happen in Belfast, and these are teams that
44:02
Speaker 1: gonna need to win their conference tournament to go anywhere
44:05
Speaker 1: in the postseason, going to need to build up some
44:08
Speaker 1: results before then to really even have any thought of that.
44:12
Speaker 1: I would think a bean Pot championship could mean a
44:17
Speaker 1: little bit in that that effort, I would think, and
44:21
Speaker 1: justin having some good feelings as you're going in the
44:24
Speaker 1: really the last month of the regular season.
44:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed, And I think it can't be understated, like
44:30
Speaker 4: how big a jump this is for Harvard after having
44:34
Speaker 4: you know, they won two games last year, they were
44:36
Speaker 4: two twenty five and two, and right now they're ten,
44:38
Speaker 4: ten and one and playing for.
44:39
Speaker 2: The Bean bought championship, from a team morale position, from
44:45
Speaker 2: a recruiting position, Like, there's just a lot that is
44:48
Speaker 2: positive about this from Harvard. And I think we've talked about,
44:51
Speaker 2: you know, some of their wins and maybe we weren't expecting,
44:54
Speaker 2: like no, we really weren't sure what to expect from
44:56
Speaker 2: this team. So you know, they won one conference team
45:00
Speaker 2: last year, so good for them to really be have
45:03
Speaker 2: a bounce back here and and sort of keep doing it,
45:05
Speaker 2: you know, like you said, they're still going to have
45:07
Speaker 2: to do a lot to be talking postseason, but I
45:09
Speaker 2: think it's a huge, huge change from last year and
45:14
Speaker 2: that's hard to doing one year. So good for them.
45:17
Speaker 1: Right this Saturday and Sunday, Northeastern and Yukon have a
45:22
Speaker 1: home and home. Can I don't know if you can
45:25
Speaker 1: recall that anymore. Northeastern doesn't have a home, so can
45:28
Speaker 1: you call it a home and home series? Anyway? It's
45:31
Speaker 1: at Yukon on Saturday, and Northeastern is hosting Yukon Sunday
45:37
Speaker 1: at Bentley's Arena. So that's there a home of Connecticut
45:41
Speaker 1: of the week. No, it's in it's in the Boston.
45:47
Speaker 1: People are gonna tell me I'm wrong, But waltam I
45:49
Speaker 1: think so somewhere in the greater Greater Boston area I believe,
45:54
Speaker 1: which still could be No, but it's it's within more
45:58
Speaker 1: within range of of Northeastern than Yukon. So yeah, So
46:04
Speaker 1: but this is the These are the two teams that
46:06
Speaker 1: are you know, ranked the highest in Hockey East. A
46:09
Speaker 1: couple of teams that we know are you know, have
46:11
Speaker 1: had have had their bumps in the last couple of weeks.
46:14
Speaker 1: So I if either of these teams can come out
46:19
Speaker 1: with two wins, that's a massive result.
46:21
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say even a win and a tire
46:24
Speaker 2: winning an extra top, you know, like a majority of
46:27
Speaker 2: the points. I think it has to be the goal here. Yeah,
46:31
Speaker 2: it'll be really interesting and we don't necessarily often get
46:35
Speaker 2: step back to back Hocky East spreads out their games
46:38
Speaker 2: a lot more and so kind of fun that we've
46:40
Speaker 2: got this home and Suita home. Like a lot is
46:43
Speaker 2: decided for this conference out of this like likely out
46:47
Speaker 2: of this weekend, so that'll be it's a lot going on.
46:49
Speaker 2: I enjoy it.
46:51
Speaker 1: Northeastern six points ahead of Yukon in the Hockey East standings,
46:55
Speaker 1: both having played fourteen conference games. So that's that's your
46:59
Speaker 1: gap one weekend's game, and so if Yukon can can
47:03
Speaker 1: win both of them in regulation, that's that's a tie
47:07
Speaker 1: at the top of the standing. Switch would make that
47:10
Speaker 1: a real fun next couple of weeks here as they
47:13
Speaker 1: kind of you know, position against each other without playing
47:16
Speaker 1: each other.
47:17
Speaker 2: Then yeah, and then they play each other the last
47:20
Speaker 2: weekend of the regular season. They play Friday, February twentieth.
47:23
Speaker 2: So a lot going on here in the final weeks.
47:26
Speaker 1: On the on the flip side, Northeast you can almost
47:29
Speaker 1: kind of take a stranglehold on the conference if they
47:31
Speaker 1: win all six points there. So so obviously a lot,
47:36
Speaker 1: a lot going on in that Saturday Sunday series. A
47:41
Speaker 1: lot going on in Cornell's world this weekend, number twelve
47:45
Speaker 1: Cornell playing at number seven Princeton Friday and at number
47:48
Speaker 1: six Quinnipiac on Saturday. So there's your your test of
47:52
Speaker 1: the week for a for an ECAC team is going
47:56
Speaker 1: on the road to play those two teams. You have
48:00
Speaker 1: to love a challenge. But back to back with with
48:04
Speaker 1: with those two teams this season is is a lot.
48:09
Speaker 2: It is, yeah, and sort of some different styles different
48:12
Speaker 2: Like I it's a tough back to back to prepare
48:16
Speaker 2: for in a couple of different ways. And Cornell is
48:21
Speaker 2: is maybe not quite as bad as is um D,
48:24
Speaker 2: but as a team that just has to be a
48:25
Speaker 2: head scratching in terms of I don't know what to
48:28
Speaker 2: expect from them week to week or what I want
48:31
Speaker 2: to be looking for them to do. So I don't
48:34
Speaker 2: have any like I'm glad I'm not prognosticating what's gonna
48:38
Speaker 2: happen there because I'm just like, I don't, I don't
48:40
Speaker 2: know it will it would. I believe that Cornell has
48:45
Speaker 2: the worywithal to go and really do something with those
48:48
Speaker 2: two games this weekend, but it at all, it all
48:49
Speaker 2: would not surprise me the other way around. And so yeah,
48:53
Speaker 2: that's gonna be interesting.
48:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, And in the the w c h A, Minnesota
48:58
Speaker 1: looks for its first win of twenty twenty at Minnesota
49:01
Speaker 1: State man Cato. At Minnesota State in man Cato. I
49:05
Speaker 1: should say a couple of teams that that really could
49:11
Speaker 1: use a positive Yeah, you know, there's been positive points.
49:16
Speaker 1: I mean d Luth want to shootout against Wisconsin two
49:19
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Minnesota State has been right there in with
49:27
Speaker 1: obviously had the sweep of Minnesota earlier this season, but
49:30
Speaker 1: of late it's been a rougher go good good vibes
49:34
Speaker 1: would be appreciated on both of these sides.
49:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, d Luth needs those points more for
49:41
Speaker 2: their season, But yeah, I I Minnesota State is a
49:45
Speaker 2: team that I think when they really are clicking and
49:47
Speaker 2: when they really believe that they like when they're really
49:50
Speaker 2: hyped and all pumps together, are a really tough team.
49:52
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure how often all of those pieces
49:55
Speaker 2: click at the same time, And so I think that's
49:58
Speaker 2: where it's going to be if they can and sort
50:01
Speaker 2: of really settle in and play the game they want
50:02
Speaker 2: to play, or you know, depending on what d Luth
50:06
Speaker 2: team shows up. I guess.
50:08
Speaker 1: D Luth is kind of on an island in the
50:10
Speaker 1: WHA standings right now, in fourth place. There are fifteen
50:15
Speaker 1: points behind third place Minnesota and ten points ahead of
50:19
Speaker 1: fifth place Minnesota State. So this and then you look
50:24
Speaker 1: further down Minnesota State, Saint Cloud State tied for fifth.
50:28
Speaker 1: That's seventeen points, Saint Thomas a point back at sixteen.
50:31
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be an interesting race to follow, just
50:34
Speaker 1: as much as the racer first is. I've got Wisconsin
50:38
Speaker 1: three points ahead of Ohio State, who is two points
50:41
Speaker 1: ahead of Minnesota. A lot to be decided there, but
50:44
Speaker 1: I mean, the luth Is feels like kind of locked
50:48
Speaker 1: into that four spot and unless something it was massively
50:53
Speaker 1: right or massively wrong, right, I mean there's a there's
50:56
Speaker 1: a chance of that, you know swinging, you know, after
51:00
Speaker 1: a few weeks, but it does kind of feel like
51:03
Speaker 1: they're they're heading towards another fourth place finish in the
51:07
Speaker 1: RAJA interesting and uh so.
51:11
Speaker 2: Putting themselves closer to you, um D and also giving
51:13
Speaker 2: them breathing room behind them like it's a big week
51:15
Speaker 2: and bigger weekend from Minnesota State than maybe it initially looked.
51:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, okay, Nicole, I know you need some sleep.
51:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should shout out the PWHL takeover tour in
51:29
Speaker 2: Washington d C the D one and D C program
51:33
Speaker 2: tournament do well, and they set a new US record
51:37
Speaker 2: for attendance at that game. I know, I have absolutely
51:41
Speaker 2: no idea how many tickets were sold for t D
51:43
Speaker 2: guard for the bean Pot, but I know that people
51:45
Speaker 2: have been talking about wanting that to be able to
51:47
Speaker 2: set a record there, So I guess we'll see what
51:49
Speaker 2: those numbers look like on Tuesday. But yeah, it's been
51:52
Speaker 2: a good week for for women's hockey looking looking pretty
51:56
Speaker 2: good on a national scale and Washington, DC, shir did
51:58
Speaker 2: make a pretty big statement for we should have a team,
52:02
Speaker 2: So shout out to everybody there. It felt like everybody
52:04
Speaker 2: I knew in my feed was at that game. I had,
52:06
Speaker 2: I had some uh some forum all of that, and yeah,
52:11
Speaker 2: between that and the big crowd here it was. It
52:13
Speaker 2: was a fun weekend for that. So I hope TV
52:15
Speaker 2: gardens rocking as well. I hope everybody shows up for
52:18
Speaker 2: them in Boston.
52:20
Speaker 1: All right, you can make sure to follow those scores,
52:23
Speaker 1: stats standings at us h O dot com. And Nicole
52:26
Speaker 1: will have a wrap up after the weekend as always,
52:29
Speaker 1: and we will be back next week for another edition
52:32
Speaker 1: of the podcast. For Nicole, I'm Todd, we'll see that