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Are You Afraid of Such Great Heights? · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the large Ner John Collider Podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always,
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  Speaker 1: is the delightful Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: Everything looks perfect from far away.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently today is not my day for getting references.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, because we we did this. This is the second
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  Speaker 2: time we've had to record the intro because I had
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  Speaker 2: my internet die on me.
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  Speaker 1: Don't tell them that. Okay, No, it's fine, you can do.
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  Speaker 2: You're all the time you were mentioning that this that
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  Speaker 2: you weren't getting references. I'm explaining that I made a
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  Speaker 2: reference that Ariel didn't get. So you didn't get that
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  Speaker 2: reference either, I didn't, Okay. So that reference is to
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  Speaker 2: a song called Such Great Heights by the Postal Service,
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  Speaker 2: just like the first reference was.
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  Speaker 1: I just say the same reference it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was the second part of the chorus. So the
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  Speaker 2: chorus goes, the chorus goes, they will see us waving
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  Speaker 2: from such great heights. Come down now, They'll say, but
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  Speaker 2: everything looks perfect from far away, Come down now. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll stay That's the way the chorus goes, So for
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  Speaker 2: those of y'all listening at home, I hit her with
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  Speaker 2: the first half of the chorus. She was unfamiliar with
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  Speaker 2: the song. I gave her the business and then my
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  Speaker 2: internet crapped out on me, and then I got it
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  Speaker 2: back up and we started recording again, and then I
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  Speaker 2: gave her the second half of the chorus.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that song. When you reference
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  Speaker 1: Postal Service in our show notes, it made no sense
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  Speaker 1: to me. Now it does. Also, it has put this
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  Speaker 1: song not Coming Down Today by Jonathan Colton stuck in
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  Speaker 1: my head because about talking about coming down in a
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  Speaker 1: day and things like that. Just word association.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the reason why I was quoting it is
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  Speaker 2: that that song's used in a trailer we'll be talking
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  Speaker 2: about later. And as I was telling Ariel before, I
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  Speaker 2: like the song, I like the trailer. I hate the
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  Speaker 2: song being used in that trailer.
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  Speaker 1: Do you because you also told me that it was
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  Speaker 1: used in the New Elephant Love song medley in Mulan Rouge,
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  Speaker 1: do you also hate it there?
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  Speaker 2: Actually, it's one of the bits that I really like
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  Speaker 2: in that. So yeah, the stage version of Mulan Rouge
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  Speaker 2: updated the big long medley we get between the two
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  Speaker 2: romantic leads, and there are a ton of extra songs
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  Speaker 2: thrown in there. Ariel and I agree that it's probably
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  Speaker 2: a few too.
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  Speaker 1: Many, Yes, And I say this as a person who
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  Speaker 1: cannot play a song without finding another song to put
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  Speaker 1: into it, And like my band plays the Pirates who
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  Speaker 1: don't do anything, and we put so many other songs
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  Speaker 1: into it. I probably am being a bit hypocritical, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's a little too much for me. It
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  Speaker 1: loses charm.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, And I also feel like not all the
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  Speaker 2: transitions from one song to a next work. Like there
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  Speaker 2: are times where they will be singing one song and
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  Speaker 2: they'll transition into another that has a totally different time signature,
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  Speaker 2: and it just it feels like you tripped right like you,
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  Speaker 2: like you just like you just stubbed your toe on
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  Speaker 2: a route and you're starting to try and catch yourself
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  Speaker 2: because the song has to adjust from one time signature
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  Speaker 2: to another and it doesn't always work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we also do that, but I think they were
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  Speaker 1: totally off the mark by putting in let the body
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  Speaker 1: sit the floor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, anyway, they we'll be doing We'll be talking more
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  Speaker 2: about that later in the episode. But before we can
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  Speaker 2: get into all of that, we have our beloved thirty
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  Speaker 2: seconds or less segment.
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  Speaker 1: Insert take our noise here.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, we'll just insert. We'll just insert the background
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  Speaker 2: music that I always put.
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  Speaker 1: In yet Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's at I believe I start off, Do I not?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go on musicals, Yes and go.
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  Speaker 2: There will be no more talk of darkness on Broadway
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  Speaker 2: because the Phantom is packed up in chandelier and clockwork
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  Speaker 2: monkey and vacated the Majestic Theater. Phantom of the Opera
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  Speaker 2: played the Great White Way for thirty five years and
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  Speaker 2: nearly fourteen thousand performances. It launched the careers of many
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  Speaker 2: Broadway stars, and it also spawned the truly terrible show
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  Speaker 2: Love Never Dies, But it's curtains for the musical. Please Andrew,
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  Speaker 2: don't make another sequel. That's all I ask of you.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen it on stage. Okay, something I don't
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  Speaker 1: the writer Jack Thorne, who did his Dark materials to
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  Speaker 1: write it, and the Sex Education Show producer Eleven will
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  Speaker 1: be producing it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, from Lord of the Flies, it's time for
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  Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings go. We talked about how Warner
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  Speaker 2: character named Lilia car Calderu, and I hope this means
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get a big musical number in the show.
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  Speaker 1: I hope so too. I didn't read that news article,
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  Speaker 1: so that's super exciting to me. Okay, Next, Michelle Leo
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  Speaker 1: It was originally going to be a spinoff series about
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• 10:44
  Speaker 1: kind of like she'll be playing Philippa Sue. No, not
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  Speaker 1: philip A Sue that's an actress on Broadway. She'll be
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  Speaker 1: playing Philippa Georgio I believe, yes, who was the captain
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  Speaker 1: of the of the Discovery in her like super black
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• 11:33
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  Speaker 1: Lastly, in our thirty seconds or less, Russian has opened
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  Speaker 1: up a new feature film. It's the first feature film
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  Speaker 1: large portions of it where they sent an actor and
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  Speaker 1: Station for twelve days in October to film the scenes.
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  Speaker 1: an astronaut. It actually looks pretty cool. They beat out
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  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise and SpaceX, who is also trying to do
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  Speaker 1: the same way.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, it does look cool. And that was our
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  Speaker 2: thirty seconds or less segment. So before we get to
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  Speaker 2: the news news the stuff. What lets us both talk
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  Speaker 2: to each other instead of just alternating? I thought we
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  Speaker 2: chat was there? Has there been anything that you've seen
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  Speaker 2: in the last week? Or I know that you're busy
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  Speaker 2: because you've got another gig coming up and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh lord, what have I watched in the last week?
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: I finished up Doom Patrol the first half of the
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: final season. Oh, we started Mandalorian. Oh okay, we watched
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  Speaker 1: the first episode. It was okay. I liked it better
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  Speaker 1: than Boba, fett Or and Orb, but my husband thought
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  Speaker 1: it had some sloppy storytelling, and once we chatted about
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  Speaker 1: with about it with him, like, I agree, there are
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  Speaker 1: some things they could have written better, but we like
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  Speaker 1: the characters and we're invested in the story so far,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll keep up with it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, I still haven't started it, so I'm still
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  Speaker 2: way behind the only thing I can Okay. So I
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: watched the first two episodes of the final season of Barry,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: which is the Bill Hayterer series on HBO where he
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: plays a hit man who is swept up into the
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: idea of becoming an actor, and the fourth season already
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  Speaker 2: is really entertaining. It is also you can tell this
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: is not going to have a happy ending, so which
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, you knew from the beginning that it couldn't
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: based upon the very premise of the show and how
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: messed up Barry is. Barry continues to be even more
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: messed up in the current season. I also watched the
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: fourth episode of Schmiicago season two of Shmigadoon, and y'all,
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  Speaker 2: this show gets better and better. That episode had both
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  Speaker 2: a genuinely sweet love song, like they weren't doing a parody.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't a satire. It was a genuinely sweet, little,
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  Speaker 2: i mean, flimsy like veil thin love song. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like it was super deep or anything, but it was
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  Speaker 2: really well constructed and had gorgeous melodies and Dove Cameron
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  Speaker 2: and Aaron Twit had an amazing blending of their voices.
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  Speaker 2: It just worked really well and I was taken aback
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  Speaker 2: when it happened because it wasn't this over the top
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  Speaker 2: comedic moment, and it really surprised me. And then the
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  Speaker 2: episode concludes with possibly the most dark comedic song they've
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  Speaker 2: done in the entire series, which was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's fantastic. It's the thing that I really like
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  Speaker 1: about Schmigido and Schmicago that that Disney just quite hasn't
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  Speaker 1: grasped onto which is well, except for maybe with the
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  Speaker 1: upcoming The Little Mermaid, they haven't previously cast their movies,
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  Speaker 1: their musical movies with people who are notable singers and actors.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like pulling from Broadway like Shmiga Duo
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  Speaker 1: Nisha Micago does because I think everybody who isn't the
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  Speaker 1: main two characters are from Broadway. It is really the
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  Speaker 1: smart way to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like you know Jane Krakowski, whom I
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  Speaker 2: mostly think of as being in thirty Rock. She's been
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  Speaker 2: in Broadway for years and years. She was one of
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  Speaker 2: the original actors in the US version of Starlight Express,
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  Speaker 2: so she was on roller skates back in the day
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  Speaker 2: doing Broadway.
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  Speaker 1: She is also Winnifred in Once Upon a Mattress. At
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  Speaker 1: one point I think or know she was Lady Larkin.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic though, but everyone's doing a great job. The show
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  Speaker 2: is so funny. Alan Cumming and Kristin Chenowith playing off
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  Speaker 2: each other as characters who are inspired by Sweeney Todd
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  Speaker 2: on one side and a combination of Miss Hannigan from
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  Speaker 2: Annie and Missus love It from Sweeney Todd on the
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  Speaker 2: other side. When they find out they could have a
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  Speaker 2: potential solution to their two problems. Sweeney Todd version that
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  Speaker 2: character his problem is he's a butcher who doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: access to meat, and the Missus Lovett version character, her
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  Speaker 2: problem is that she's got too many darn orphans. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a solution.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no.
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  Speaker 2: The song is called the Songs called Good enough to eat.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. That reminds me of watching an interview
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  Speaker 1: with Josh Groben, because he's currently Sweeney Todd on Broadway,
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  Speaker 1: and he said that his missus love It is gluten
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  Speaker 1: free and he's either vegan or vegetarian. So their meat
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  Speaker 1: pies are truly dry and horrible.
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  Speaker 2: So they really are the worst pies in London.
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  Speaker 1: They really are. They really are. So we had some
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  Speaker 1: friends online trying to talk about what they think the
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  Speaker 1: next the next iteration of Schmagago should be, and I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to ask you before we move on, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think the third season should be called?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I said it should be Schmig Saigon, because
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  Speaker 2: because if we're going by era, and we've just finished
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  Speaker 2: out the sixties and seventies and we're we're really focusing
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  Speaker 2: on sort of the sleazier, grubbier musicals of that era,
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  Speaker 2: then you start getting into the big spectacle musicals of
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  Speaker 2: the eighties, right, So you get into stuff like which
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  Speaker 2: started in the late seventies but then really grew in
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  Speaker 2: the eighties. So stuff like Phantom of the Opera, Lebies,
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  Speaker 2: Miss Saigon, A lot of Weber musicals actually fall in
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  Speaker 2: that category. Cats Starlight Express, those those sorts of things,
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  Speaker 2: those big, big spectacle shows where you had really expensive
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  Speaker 2: sets and a cast of like sixty people. That's where
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  Speaker 2: I would see it going. So I saw some I
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  Speaker 2: saw some other people saying stuff. Even Kristin Chenowi said schmicked.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like, well, no, that's that's skipping an entire
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  Speaker 2: era of musicals.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think if you're going to do the eighties,
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  Speaker 1: then it should be the Schmig Light Express. But I
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  Speaker 1: see our friends online also kind of skipped the eighties.
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  Speaker 1: I think, just thinking like Miss Sigon still fits into
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that darker era of stuff and went straight to the
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: nineties two thousands. So my suggestions were Schmig after Big
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and then the full Schmiggy so the full Monty.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and I I so Schmig gets into another
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: era of musicals where you would have a double problem then, right,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: because that's the era of musicals where people were taking
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: existing properties like film and TV series things like that
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and adapting them into a musical. So you get mean girls,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: you get legally blonde, you get a beatle Jews, you
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: get Adam's.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Family, which spans from the nineties to today. Right, right,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I got, I got, I got like an inner, I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: got like a survey from the Atlanta Broadway company that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: brings all the shows to Atlanta, saying what do you
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: want to see? And in there was the Karate Kid
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and Back to the Future, and we head back to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the future already, but I don't think Karate Kids come
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: out yet.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, And that's the thing is that that would
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: be harder to do for Smigadoon, right, because do you
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: just do you reference fake movies that don't really exist,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: and then these are the musical adaptations of these fake movies.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Do you use movies that people recognize, but you've created
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: enough separation where it's not you know, it's not a
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: one to one parody, because so far both Smigadoon and Schmicago,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: while they are drawing from those musicals, they're combining a
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: lot too. Like there's a number in one of the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: episodes that all the people look like they came out
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: of cabaret, but they're singing a number that's essentially taken
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: straight from the opening of a chorus line, So I mean,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: it's weird.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: They could also go in that era to like the
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: whole something Rotten and Book of Mormon and Avenue Q
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff that's just overtly comedic.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's hard to do a satire of comedy too, right,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Like it's hard to do because all you need to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: do is look at all the you know, blank movie movies,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: all the like date movie, epic movie, you know, all
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: those films that came out where a lot of the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: movies they were quote unquote parodying were already comedies, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: those films are almost unwatchably bad.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I agree. I guess we'll just have to see what
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: they do and where they go. You're probably right, speaking
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of writing beautiful segue. If I do say so myself,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the only person who does. Let's start
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: off our news items with talking about the writer's strike.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Writer's Guild of America held a vote,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and this isn't a surprise. They voted overwhelmingly to support
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: a strike. Now, that doesn't mean that they're on strike
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: right now. It just means they approved a strike, and
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: so if the decision is made, then the guild is
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: already prepared to go on strike. That being said, I
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: think the general feeling right now is that's where we're headed.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look like there's going to be a resolution
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: before a strike, so you know, by the time you
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: hear this, it may already be official. There may already
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: be a strike on.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, but they'll go on strike if a deal hasn't
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: been reached by May. First. They're asking for, you know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of like compensation type stuff. So a lot
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: of it circles around again with streaming. When streaming started,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it was such a new thing. People didn't know how
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: they were going to make money, and they're honestly they're
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: still dealing with that. So so things like residuals and
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. The deals for that are
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: not great across the board because it's all about like, Okay,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: how do we not go bankrupt if this doesn't fly?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: But we've had streaming around for how many years now?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: And what people trying to cut costs also included things
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: like it says in the article on Deadline. It talks
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: about I'm trying to find it mini rooms and I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: think I don't know because I didn't have time to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: fully look into it. But I think that's where they're
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: talking about, like having much smaller writer rooms but still
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the same turnaround and so it's really hard on the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: writers and it means you know, you're maybe not getting
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: as good of a product. And then things like limiting
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: how AI can be used in a script, which honestly
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I'm glad for because I don't like what AI has
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: written thus far, and also as an actor, I don't
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: want to be replaced by AI. There's some there's AI
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: can do a lot of things, but there's certain things that,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: like I hope just remain truly human, that you can't
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: get without a human so.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Well, and you know, when we say truly human, we
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: also have to throw producers in there, because as far
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: as I can tell, they're not human at all. And
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I say that as a producer, but no, like when
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: you're when you're looking at things like like this is
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: what this discussion reminds me of a lot. Is what
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: we heard in the wake of Black Widow Right and
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Scarlett Johanson because her contract was written in such a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: way that she was supposed to be Doe residuals, but
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: because Marvel chose to push that out to streaming as
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: opposed to a theatrical release, there was this whole conflict
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: of well, how how does she get residuals. Then how
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: does that end up impacting her compensation for working on
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the film, because it was her understanding that that was
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: going to be part of her compensation. You take it
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: out of box office return and you start to have
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: to ask questions of how do you measure success of
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: a product then, because the number of streams of a
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: film do not directly connect to the revenue, right, So
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: it gets way more complicated, and that's part of what
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: needs to be resolved, not just for the writers, but
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: as you said, Ariel, across the entire industry.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it hits actors. I know that people
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: were and I'm not behind the scenes, so I can't
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: say for certain, but I've heard people say that the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: reason things like Westworld or shows get canceled before the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: first season's done is so that and move to a
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: different services so that the service doesn't have to pay
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: residuals anymore, because there is like there's like a grace
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: period put in there for streaming for if something doesn't
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: get picked up, and then after a certain time, the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: actors get residuals if it continues on the platform. But
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: they've been in they've been in negotiations since March, because
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that's when the current that's Yeah, they've been in they've
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: been in talks since March, and there's been a little
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: bit of give. But I have a feeling that this
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: one's going to be hard to work out because it's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: also the producer side and the you know, the the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the other side of this really needs to figure out
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: how to make that mattainable and sustainable, and they should
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: have done that already, but there's been a little bit
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: of givet but it hasn't been enough. Last time we
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: had a writer strike, it lasted one hundred days. That's
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like almost a half a year. Yea a third of
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, it's you're right, it's almost a third
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of a year. Yeah. My actor brain is already like
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a goodness, Like, I support I support the strike, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I support you know, better better rules and regulations around
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: discrimination and equal pay and and all of these things.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I support all of these things. But you know, as
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: an actor, if there's a writers strike, then there's less
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: content being pushed out. So I feel like there are
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: going to be some places that maybe or like let's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: get our stuff in before this happens, even ye, So
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you know there are still things being filmed. If we
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: go into a writer's strike, we might still get some
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: new stuff popping up. But I really hope they figured
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: this out.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I really do, yeah, because otherwise what will happen is
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you'll end up getting you know, truncated seasons next year,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: where you know, it might be that a show that
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: would normally have you know, thirteen episodes only has six
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: something like that. The last thing I remember coming out
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: during the previous writers strike was a Doctor Horrible sing
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: a long blog because it didn't because it was this independent,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: little web based series, there were no rules, it didn't
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: violate anything. So Joss Whedon and his brother were able
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: to get together and put this thing together and cast
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: it with folks like Neil Patrick Harris and Felicia Day,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and they were able to put this piece out and
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: it did really well for several reasons. One, it was
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: very had a very hook centered kind of concept, but
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: also what else was there to watch?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean it. It is really a great
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: time for people to create their own content. And if
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you're an actor out there, because there's tons of us
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: listening to this, you know, it's a perfect time to
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: create your own content that doesn't go against any regulations.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: That's not not supporting the strike. That's it's an opportunity
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: for you to really take time to create your own
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: beautiful works, because what else are you gonna do? Yeah,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: like Jonathan said, But all that being said, there are
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: a bunch of things coming out that we've gotten trailers for. Hey,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: we've got to be getting a lot of trailers. Everything
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: is making up for the last three years. And the
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: first one is a trailer for season two have Sweet
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Tooth that I wasn't sure we were going to even get.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, neither did I. I didn't know if we would
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: get a second season. If you don't know what Sweet
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Tooth is, it's based off a comic book and the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: basic premise is you'll never believe this, but the world
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: gets hit by this ginormous pandemic. I know, hard to believe, right,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: but ni unbelievable. Yes, this, this particular one is referred
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: to as the Sick because you know, people are creative,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: and a whole bunch of folks die, and then a
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: whole bunch of babies who are born post pandemic. Are
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: these weird hybrids that are part human and part animal,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: and so we end up having a story with all
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: these different child characters who are are kind of you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: besteal in appearance, and it's it's you know, you're it's
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: a fantasy series. It's like a fantasy Alt Earth series,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and the preview kind of shows us some of the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: conflict in drama and action that's going to play out
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: in this season.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I the last season ended on a cliffhanger, so
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: it's really good. Did you watch the first season?
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I did not.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I did. By the end, it really picked up. I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: felt like it was a little unevenly paced, but I
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: thought the actors were very likable. However, I will say
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the second season looks much much faster paced, but also
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: it's focusing on child and animal engagement, and it's like hard.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: That's hard for me. I can't even watch Homeward Bound
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: without anxiety. And I've seen that like five times, never again,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: never again. But you know, it's it's fun, it's cute.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I look forward to the second season.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: It definitely looks like I mean, the trailer at least
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: makes it look, you know, fairly fairly dark, and the
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: guy playing the villain, I'm like, dude, I I've found
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: my next cosplay.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: You definitely have it is. It is pretty dark. I
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: will say it's not unbeariable. It's not like Last of
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Us or Walking Dead or anything like that, but I
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: mean it deals with a lot of dark concepts. I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: don't want to ruin it for anybody who hasn't seen
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: it but wants to. So I realized we're kind of
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: past the spoiler bit. But watch the trailer you'll find yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah you do. All we really gave you was some
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: premise and some general feels. But yeah, I watched the trailer.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: See if it's something that you would dig. And if
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: it is and you haven't watched any of it, hey
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: good news. You got a whole season to work your
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: way through before you can worry about season two. Next up,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: we have a trailer for a film called Assassin's Club,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: which I said was John Wick meets Smoking Aces because
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: it ends up being a whole bunch of assassins who
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: are set off against each other in kind of a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: battle royale situation.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I really like the actors in it, but the trailer
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: itself just left me kind of meh, Yeah, I like that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: You were like, what can I say that's nice about this?
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Well? It it. I'm trying to remember the actor's name.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: It's got Sam Neil yep.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Henry Golding's in it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Henry Golding, that's the name of the person. I really
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: like him. He's he's a very good actor. And a
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: bunch of other people too that are good. But I
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: don't know. It feels like you said, it's John Wick
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: meets Smoking As, so it feels unriginal to me, and
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: so therefore they just haven't grabbed me. I was speaking
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: like John Wick meets Hunger Games.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: But that's fair till yeah, yeah, well, and and I
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: guess that in a way that's you know, Hunger Games
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: is actually more appropriate because Smoking Aces. First of all,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: it's a movie that is all style over substance. It is.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I do not think it's a very good movie. It
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: has a lot of good people in it, and it's
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: got a lot of style. It's not a good movie,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: but it's one where a whole bunch of assassins and
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: hitmen and et cetera, et cetera are all coming after
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the same dude, the same target, and in the process
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: they end up taking each other out quite a bit. Actually,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of setup and the taking out
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: part lasts like fifteen minutes because it's so intense. But
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: but yeah, that this one, they're actually being set off
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: against each other, and of course the john Wick connection.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: One everyone's an assassin, but two the main character is
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: actually trying to get out of the business and ends
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: up being forced into this almost like a competition or contest,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and isn't really certain who is behind the scenes pulling
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the strings. But yeah, like this is all stuff we've
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: seen in one version or another before. It looks like
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: it's it's shot competently well and the performances look fine,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't it doesn't really have any new ideas
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: to bring to the table.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which you can do this sort of a story
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and bring new ideas. I mean, look at how many
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: versions of Star Trek we've gotten.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: That's a segue.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: That's a segue. Could you tell by like how seamlessly
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I did it without pausing to think at all.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: So what you're referring to is we got a trailer
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: for season two of Strange New Worlds, and this, my friends,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: is the trailer that incorporates the song Such Great Heights
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: from the Postal Service in it, where I said the
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: trailer's good. The song's good. I don't like them both together.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: But the trailer is good. It looks fun. They bring
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the thing okay, so it looks like there's gonna be
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: crushes and comedy and action and drum all the stuff
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: we loved about the first one, right, But something that
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: really surprised me in the trailer is they brought back
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the og you look in Klingons.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: What do you mean by og?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I mean like next generation? Okay, because next generation through
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: through I guess Enterprise or or whichever the last one
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: was before Discovery.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Because the Og Klingons they were they look like like
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: brown people essentially, they were they look like they were
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: stand ins for like Middle Eastern humans, right. Like that's
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: because because if you look at the original series, they
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: didn't have the the bumpy heads, and then once you
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: get to the films, the original series films, then that
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: started to change. So that's why I got a little confused,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: because like, well, no, it's really cling On two point
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: zero is what they look like.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, fine, they brought that cling On two point oh,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: which I feel like is the most prevalent version of
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the Klingon.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but I'm.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Really surprised because of Discovery, because of when Discovery takes
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: place in relation to strange New worlds and how different
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the Klingons look in Discovery.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the consistency I think across various series is
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: a problem. Like in some cases Star Trek has tried
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: to explain away that to explain, like, oh, well, they
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: look like this in the original series because of X,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Y and Z, and they look like this in this
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: other one because of blah blah blah. But really it
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: just comes down to the aesthetics of the particular show.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So it's where you start to see the showrunners try
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: and do creative gymnastics to justify why things are the
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: way they are and why they're not consistent across all
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the different series. I will say I thought the fact
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: that they brought than Kirk spoiler alert. In this trailer,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Kirk shows up and immediately like the without even saying anything,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Kirk is giving bedroom eyes to a woman insign and
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: she's all flustered, and I'm.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Thinking he's perfection.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Well, no, it is not like Kurk. Yes, yes, Kirk
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: did get around a bit, but not nearly as much
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: as the modern depictions of Kirk have him, Like, if
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: you watch again the original series, yes, Kirk is a
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: bit of a player, but not to the degree that
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: he was shown off in say the Abrams movies or
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: apparently this trailer. So it's perpetuating this idea of Kirk
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: that wasn't fully present in the original series. But you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I guess we're past that. It's fine.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, we also don't know how much that is
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: going to maintain throughout the second season. You know, that
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: was a part of his character in the original series,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: even if it wasn't his full character. He did get
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: around a bit, and you know, maybe that's just to
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: introduce him so that pete more modern audiences go oh,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: that's Kirk, and maybe then they'll pull back we'll see
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I think he looks great, like, oh, yeah, that's Kirk's
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that's perfect.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, from personality. I mean I heard people say, oh,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: it doesn't look like Kirk at all. I'm like, well,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: neither does Chris Pine. But that's fine, Like it's okay.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm very much looking forward to this. I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed season one, and look, if they can make
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a renaissance, it wasn't really a renaissance. Festival episode, but
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: it was essentially a Renaissance festival episode. Makes sense, then
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: they can do anything.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Well to that, I say, huzza as biz that we
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: should then move on to talk about David.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Bowie, another person with space ties.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, David Bowie. He of course phenomenal, legendary musician, also actor.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: He was in a lot of stuff, including geeky stuff
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: like Labyrinth Labyrinth. Oh one of the best.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Wasn't he in the original The Man Who Came to
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Earth too?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was also in. Well, he's in tons of stuff,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: like he has played aliens before. But the reason we're
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: bringing him up here is because we got a trailer
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to a documentary about David Bowie's career called moon Age Daydream,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: and it's got tons of archival footage from interviews and such,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: especially of David Bowie having fun with interviewers and just
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: sort of like playing around with their repressive personalities and
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: just being him. And it's great. I'm looking forward to it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I like David Bowie's music a lot. I really liked
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: his attitude and his approach, so I want to see
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: this documentary.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I like his music, I like
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: his creativity. I always have fun watching him, so yeah,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward it to it too. Something else that
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: when we first talked about it, I wasn't sure if
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I was going to look forward to it. I simply
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: mentioned it because Arnold Schwartzenegger has some geek ties with
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: things like Terminator in the Last Action Hero and stuff
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: like that. Predator and True Lies and all that junk.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: But we talked about how he's got a new series
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: coming to I think Netflix called Fubar where he plays
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a retired CIA agent who's getting pulled back in And
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: we actually got a trailer for it. And I hate
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: to say this, but it actually looks really cute to me.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I was about to say, it reminds me of True
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Lies in a lot of ways, right, Like it's yes,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: it's clear that his profession was one that was essentially
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: kept from his family, but then it turns out that
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: someone else in his family also is a secret agent,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: also for the CIA, and he also did not know it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so to me, it's kind of like True
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Eyes meets Taken meats Spy.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Which is it's spelled that way. It's sp yyyyy question.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Mine eye because it's funny. It genuinely looks like cute funny,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: like maybe early two thousand sitcom level funny.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it makes me think of that era of
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: action movies where there is that level of humor worked
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: into the action movie itself, and I think it looks
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: like more sincere and funny as opposed to something like
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: The Expendables, which tried really hard to capture that kind
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of thing, but you could see how hard they were trying,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and it didn't really feel like they were succeeding. They
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: were trying but not really getting to where they need
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: to be. This the trailer at least looks like it's
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: it's a little more in that spirit of light hearted,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: goofy humor on top of you know, obviously high production
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: action sequences. So the basic premise, because I mean, you're
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: gonna watch the trailer, you're gonna see it if you
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: don't want to. If you don't want to know the
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: basic premise, just skip ahead like thirty seconds. But the
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: basic premise is that he finds out his daughter is
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: an undercover agent, and then the two of them end
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: up working together, though they have their own way of
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: doing things, and so there's a little father daughter conflict
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: going on in there as well as a collaboration.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And the relationship. So there are definitely jokes that like
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: side characters or other characters who are not the main
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: family members have that. I'm like, Okay, maybe that's funny
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: in context, but here it kind of fell flat for me.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: But the relationship between Arnold Schwarzenegger's character and his daughter
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: feels so true. It feels very real in a very
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: like in a very fun way.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, I agree. So back in twenty eighteen, Ariel.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Was that a year I don't even remember.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was before before the Panny. So before
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: the Panny, we had we had years that ended in
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the teens before the Panny, and one of them was
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. And there was this series, this animated series
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: that was kind of a satirizing the adventure cartoons of
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: like the sixties and seventies, stuff like Johnny Quest. And
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: it was called Venture Brothers and it was on Adult
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Swim and it had run for seven seasons and it
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: was supposed to come back for an eighth, but it
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: got canceled and we were wondering, are they ever going
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to actually wrap up the storyline that was underlying those
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: seven seasons and the answer is yes, in a movie
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: that will be released to home video and then ninety
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: days later to streaming, and it's got a trailer. Now.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: We watched it and it was, eh, it's fine. Oh
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: the trailer really wasn't a trailer. It was more like
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: an excerpt. But yeah, if you're a Venture Brothers fan,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: the trailer or the excerpt is great. If you're not
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: a fan, then you're like, I don't know why I
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: should care about any of this.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I watched Venture Brothers. I don't know if I ever
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: finished it. I actually had to watch it the excerpt
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: twice because I was I lost. I lost my attention
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the first time, and I was like, oh, I had
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: this played, but I didn't watch it, so I went
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: back and watched it again. Yeah, it's it is what
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: it is. If I'm going to go back to old
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: school adventure, I'm going to do it with the new
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Frog and Toad show that's coming out or movie or whatever.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a trailer for Frog and Toad. Which
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: did you ever read the Frog and Toad books when
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: you were very little?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I love Frog and Toad and then I read it
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: as an adult too, because I taught daycare for ten years.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, I read them when I was very
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: very little. I have no memory of them. So when
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I watched the preview, it's funny. It's also kind of sad.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: It's funny and sad. I was watching the preview. It's
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: setting up these very very sincere stories about friendship, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I kept waiting for sort of the edgy or satirical
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: or cynical shoe to drop, for there to be like
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: the subverting your expectations thing. But no, it's just nice
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: because that's Frog and Toad. That's what Frog and Toad
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: is supposed to be. I am just a jerk because
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I've been conditioned by culture to expect some sort of
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: snarky joke at some point, but that's not what this is.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: So the preview I thought was very very sweet.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: It is very sweet, and we need more just sweet,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: happy stuff. I mean, obviously it's for kids, but I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: will enjoy it. I'm going to watch it. I'm gonna
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: make my niece and nephews watch it too, even though
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: they're probably all too owd for it. I just don't care.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: But if you want SNAr, you know what where I
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: bet you're gonna get a ton of snarky and it'll
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: be fine. Drop Out TV, drop Out TV. We got
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the trailer for the next all of a sudden, I've
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: forgotten the next campaign that they're doing for Dimension twenty
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and it is a prequel to Crown of Candy Candy
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the Ravening War.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, and this is the campaign where Brennan Lee Mulligan
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: will be a player, not the game master. They got
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: some hack to come in and DM this one.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt Mercer's coming in and doing it. And I mean,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Brennan has been a player before Abria Iron Guard did
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the Quart of fan Flowers and he played in that.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: He's played that's true, that's true.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Matt Mercer's coming in to do Crown of Candy,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: which I Crown of Candy honestly, so many people love
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: it and I get it. There's some amazing roleplay. There's
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: some really cool lore built into the world, which is
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: probably why it appeals to Matt Mercer like it's a
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: very well thought out world. It's a very cool concept.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I was hit or miss on the individual episodes. Honestly,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: some of it was a little slow for me. But
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: it looks fun. They've got a voice actress in it
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: who I haven't seen on Dimension twenty before. That doesn't
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: mean I haven't watched it. Also, that doesn't mean she
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: hasn't played before, but she is a voice actress for
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Medusa and the upkeem coming game Stray Gods, which is
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: being done by Joel from Last the voice of Joel
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: from Last of Us, and then Laura Bailey who is
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: part of Critical Role, and so yeah, it's very very cool.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: The guy who played Joel, by the way, his name
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: is Troy Baker, So yeah. The Rabbity War trailer does
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: also contain a moment, so it's it sets up in
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: a very silly way of Matt Mercer discovering the Crown
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: of Candy campaign materials and that this is what convinces
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: him to run it. But then we actually see some
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: clips from the campaign, including Matt Mercer giving Dimension twenty
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: the very first how do you want to do this?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've watched more Dimension twenty than I have
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Critical Role at this point, so it took me a
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: second to be like, oh, that's cool, but.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, when Matt Mercer is running his games, if
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: a player rolls a killing blow against a notable opponent.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: He will sometimes ask the player how they want to
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: how do you want to do this, which means how
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: does the killing blow actually play out? So that they
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: can kind of increase the drama and entertainment of the conflict.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: And so it becomes like a touchstone moment in critical
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: role campaigns where someone does something really impressive and rather
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: than tell them how it plays out, he asks them, no,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: tell us, what does this killing blow look like?
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bredan Lee Mulligan does something similar, And I've played
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: games where people do something similar because you've made this
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: cool cinematic moment and you need to you need to
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: be able to tell what you meant.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: And to pay it off, and and to get collaboration
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: from your players, so it's not just the game master
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: telling a story.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And it also makes it easier on the
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: game master too, might be like Fudge, I don't.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Know rocks ball, everybody dies?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, so I'm I will watch it. I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: will of course watch it. I just finished up never after.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: That's something else. I finished watching this week, which was
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: their last campaign. It was horror fairy tale and it
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: was very fun. I quite enjoyed it, but if you
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: don't really like to mention twenty and you like Critical
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Role while you're in luck because they have two new
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: RPGs coming out, and a board game and a deck
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: building game and they aren't D and D.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not really surprised that they're not D and D
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: because with the licensing issues over at Wizards of the Coast,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I imagine that there is a desire to kind of
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: divorce themselves away from that so that they don't have
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: to deal with all of that red tape and they
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: can make stuff that's on their own terms. They have
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: partnered with a games company that makes games as well.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Some of those titles have received good reviews, some of
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: them have received middling reviews. I think it's great that
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: they're making stuff that their fan base is going to
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: find enjoyable. I don't have any particular plans to pick
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: these up. I have thought about getting the Exandria campaign
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: book that they put out ages ago, but haven't done it.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's I think it's cool for
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: people who love games that. I mean, anytime you get
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: more games out there, people really love that, and I
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: think that's awesome.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I agree if does that include more Atari games? Do
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: you like Atari, Jonathan?
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: I mean I had an Atari twenty six hundred when
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I was growing up, and I've I've done multiple tech
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: stuff episodes about Atari, So yeah, I like I like it.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: The name doesn't mean as much as it used to
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: because it went through a whole lot of changes. But
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to go through that would take forever, Like we could
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: have done an entire business on the brink about Atari.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: But no, I think what you're talking about is how
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: now the company that is Atari is getting a little
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: a little uh, it's going on a shopping spree.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're buying. They bought over one hundred different old
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: games from the eighties and nineties to I guess re release,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: add to consoles, including modern consoles, and to try to
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: give kind of like a renaissance to.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which could include everything from merchandise to a total
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: remaster to sequels, like we don't really know what the
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: intention is, but it includes a ton of old titles.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Now I would not necessarily call them classic, I mean
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: classic in the since they're old, but I don't know
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: if on a quality standpoint you would call them that
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: because one of them is the Bubz series, and I
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: don't know if you ever played any of the Bubsy
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: games areal, I did not know they were the ones
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: I played. Anyway, they were not good. They were kind
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: of like bad, like poorly designed and almost impossible to play.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: There's a comedy YouTube channel called Funhouse. It's part of
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: the Rooster Teeth family and fun f u n ha Us,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: and they have played some of the Bubzy games recently
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: and they really highlight just how I mean they're playing
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: through emulators, so that's that's part of it, but just
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: how bad that game was.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Listen, classic doesn't have to be good. Classic can be
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: classically bad. I mean I learned that from video game
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Nerd back. I guess he's still doing videos.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And also they got something called Demolition Demolition Racer,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: which sounds more fun than baseball. It's vehicular combat.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what that one. I haven't I'm
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: not familiar with the title, so I don't know what
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: that how that stacks up against Bubbz But.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But but then like last month, they got Berserk
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: and Frenzy, which are more well known and better games.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, Berzerk is a true classic, like
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: that was an old arcade classic, so it's cool, Like,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I'll be curious to see what they do with all that.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Atari has tried to really kind of make some moves
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: to become relevant again. I would love to see that
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: happen because I have a lot of the staff for Atari.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: It's just that, you know, how do you move forward
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: with a brand like that, where the association of Atari
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: is that super old school video game look and feel.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: How do you move that into a current generation where
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you're both honoring the nostalgia but you're also keeping pace
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: with modern capabilities. It's a challenge, and I hope that
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: they are able to meet.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: It me too. Another challenge that I hope is being
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: able to be met is the Galaxy Quest TV show,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: which has been trying to be made for like eight
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: years or so, but Paramount Plus has finally ordered a series.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: That news is they don't have a concept or a
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: writer or anything else like that, but they've ordered the series.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: They got a name. Yeah, before we started recording, Ariel
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: and I were chatting about this because we weren't even
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: sure if we were going to include it because there's
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: so little detail for us to be able to talk about, Like,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: we're curious, is this TV series going to be a
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: continuation of the story we saw in the movie. Is
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: it going to be a total reboot where we have
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: just new actors playing those sorts of characters, because obviously
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: we can't just pick up because tragically we lost one
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: of the great actors who was in the film, Alan Rickman.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: He passed away and it wouldn't be the same without him.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: So do you go back and start over where this
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: is a new cast who are playing through that same
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: basic idea they used to make a science fiction show
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: they got broadcast. This is years later, and they're all
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: still kind of coasting on this show that they made
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: years in the past, and then some aliens think that
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: they're the real thing. Is it a series where it
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: is that science fiction show where it's it's not there
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: being mistaken for the real thing, but they're actually making
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: a side show. We just don't know yet.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And honestly, I love Galaxy Quest. I am all
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: for a TV show. I'll give anything a chance pretty
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: much because the Galaxy Quest was so much fun. Although
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: we did have you know, The Orville, which is almost
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: similar but not quite in the level of comedy. Yeah,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: but they ordered it and we're looking to go into
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: a writers strike, so hopefully that doesn't keep it from
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: happening altogether.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to see I you know, I never
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: want to to dismiss anything without having seen it first.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I definitely have a lot of questions. It doesn't mean
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: that there are no answers for those questions. It may
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: be very good answers. I just don't know them yet.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: So here's hoping that we'll have something to look at
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: in the not too distant future. But we have a
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: lot of questions to answer. A question I have for you,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Ariel is, would you like to go have a nice
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: relaxing holiday in a cabin?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Never again, Jonathan. I like camping. I like cabins. I
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: enjoyed going to a cabin for your birthday once. But
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: you know what, never again, never again? Because you hate
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: me and you made me watch this next trailer and
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't even get through it. I got like I
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: watched it on two double speed and only got like
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: two thirds of the way through because I hate cannibals
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Whereas I eat cannibals. That's a that's a punk rock song.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: You gotta look it up. It's great. No, uh so,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Cannibal Cabin is the trailer I showed her. We are now,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: We're now in the now what has become the traditional
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: end segment of our news segment.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Always we can end on happy stuff sometimes, Jonathan, it's.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Where I group all the horror movie trailers from the end. Well,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: at the end, we could just like you know, it's
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: just a fun way to send it off. So Cannibal Cabin,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: though Ariel couldn't really get through it, I did get
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: through it, but I didn't find it scary or disturbing,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: largely because I found it incredibly derivative. It looked a
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: lot like, Hey, let's take the basic concept of group
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: of young people go to a cabin and then are
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: terrorized by bad guys, and then combine that with the
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: sort of performances and dynamics of Texas Chainsaw Massacre except
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: make everybody English and that's the movie. And I watched it,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: I thought, Yeah, this is just English Chainsaw Massacre is
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: really what this comes down to. It doesn't feel like
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: it's doing anything new in the genre, but it's treading
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: some very familiar ground.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's your sort of thing, I'm glad that
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: you have more content for me. I find it completely
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: unnecessary in many ways. The next horror movie we have
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: is Insidious The Red Door. This this was not quite
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: as scary as a trailer, but I've also not watched
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: any Insidious, so I have no reference. So it looked like, yeah,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: there's a door and it's a scary movie.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: The Scary Door. Was that in like Futurama or something
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: like they had like the they had the Twilight Zone
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: type series called like the Scary Door or something along
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: those lines.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I don't recall.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Anyway, so I have watched at least the first Insidious.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I may have watched the first two Insidious movies, and
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I remember the first one was interesting. I liked it
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: as a concept. I thought it was pretty good, not great,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: but pretty good, and I mostly enjoyed it. So when
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: I saw that there was this new film in the
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Insidious series, I jumped at the chance to watch the trailer,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: and then thought, this doesn't do anything for me either.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Have I just dead inside now where horror doesn't affect me,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: and which is not true, by the way, there are
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: horror movies that can really affect me. It's just that
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: it's not the well, like you know it's It's like
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: any other kind of entertainment. You watch stuff that evokes
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: certain feelings and reactions, and some people like being scared,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: some people don't. Some people like being disturbed, some people don't.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: And the movies that are really effective to me these
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: days are usually way more psychological and less about the
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: gore or the violence. This one, you know, Insidious, tries
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: to be more of the slowly ranking up tension. But
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: this trailer didn't really work for me. It could have
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: just been a bad trailer. Maybe the movie would be
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: very different, but yeah, didn't didn't catch me. But that
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean other people won't find it really compelling. So
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: you can check out the new trailer for Insidious, The
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Red Door. If you're a big fan of that series,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: then hey, good news, another one's out.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. This last one is almost my fault because we
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: talked about it back in February and I think I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: found it then. But Jonathan found a new trailer for
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: The Boogeyman, which is a Stephen King story. It features
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: the girl who played Young Leila Young Leah in the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: you know McGregor Disney, Obi Wan and Obi Wan, thank you.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I look I need more Coffee. I watched all of
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Obi Wan, but for some reason, the name just didn't
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: come to me. Yes, she's the main character. This trailer
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: looks it's for the Boogeyman. It looks much scarier than
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: the first one.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Uh, the trailer looks much scarier. It's still again like,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's because I watched The Babba
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Duke and The Baba Duke is such a good movie.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: The Boogeyman didn't scare me either, But I I think
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: it is a better trailer than the first one we got.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: And again, it may just be that when I if
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: I see the movie, I'll feel very differently about it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: I also have never read the short story that's based
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: off of It was one of the short stories that
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: got collected in night Shift, and that was one of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: the Stephen King anthologies I never read. At first, I thought, oh,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: I read night Shift. I must have read this story.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: And then I looked up night Shift on Wikipedia and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I looked at the list of stories went oh no, no,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: I haven't read night Shift. I just read like Skeleton
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Crew and Four Past Midnight and those, but I never
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: read night Shifts. I was like, oh no, I haven't
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: read this one. That's why this doesn't strike any chords
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: with me, Like I don't have any memory of it.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: So I will say that it does look like they
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: did a good job with the filming, Like the performances
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: look good. Maybe it's just that I'm burnt out on
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: the scary monster under the bed trope. Yeah, but it
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: could be like if I again, if I watched the movie,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: I might think it's really really well done. So the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: reason I put it in here is because the trailer
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: also falls in the trope of Hey, let's take a
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: song that you don't associate with being creepy or scary,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: put it in a minor key, slow it down sub
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: and now it's the scary song. So in this case
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: it's it's the Irish Lulla by the tour Ra La
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Lura that one.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Yep, not listening to that anymore. Also not going to sleep.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I already don't sleep in the dark. So this trailer
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: did two things really well. It feels very much like
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: in the vein of Like It or something like that,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: you know, very very similar type story which I was
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: able to handle watching. However, this one has some really
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: great beats and moments that are like genuinely tender in
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the trailer, mixed with the thing that I am most
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: afraid of, which is the dark. Like I don't like spiders.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of a scared scared of spiders, but I'm
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: even more scared of the dark. And because I get
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: sleep paralysis and when you're in the complete dark and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: you can't see around yourself, if that happens, it's extra scary.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, this has a moment at the beginning of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: the trailer where the main character and her older sister
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: are talking to like a therapist of some sort, and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: she's like, well, we're going to turn on this light
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: and it's going to go between light and dark and
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: light and dark, and it's like a very tender, kind caring,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: helpful moment, And it gave me so much anxiety switching
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: between the light and they can pitch black. So very evocative,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: very well done.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that actually kind of made me think of that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: short film which later got turned into a full length movie.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: And for some reason, the title escapes me, but I
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: remember in the short film there's a woman she's kind
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: of doing chores around the house, and she walks by
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: a hallway and the light's on and she turns the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: light to the hallway off, and when she does that,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: she can see a silhouette in the hallway. And then
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: she turns on the light and there's nothing there. And
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: when she turns off the light, the silhouette is still there,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: but a little closer. When she turns on the light,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: it's not there. Like, it reminded me a lot of that,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: and I wish I could. Yeah, anyone out there who
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: is familiar with horror movies probably is screaming out the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: title right now. Yeah, I just have no memory of
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: what that was.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: It sounds familiar, and also it's terrifying me even just
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: to listen to it. Unlike, here's the thing, Like Doctor
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Who plays with the same sort of concept with weeping angels, right,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: so like and we need to we need to wrap
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: this up, so I'll make this quick. Like with weeping angels,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: you don't look at them and they move closer to you.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: The it's the thing you can't see, right, It's the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: thing you cannot see is scarier than the thing you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: can see. Yes, that's what makes amazing suspense. For some reason,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me in Doctor Who, and it completely
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: bothers me in the Boogeyman and the example you should escape.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Well, and this also explains why when I used to
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: walk around bookstores with Ariel, she would just start screaming yes, yes,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: damn it, yes. And it turned out that she was
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: walking through the are you Afraid of the Dark? Section?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. Although I love that TV show, I
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: really like that TV show, The Midnight Society. Okay, well,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: I'm never going to sleep again, but I hope you can,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: and if you can't, you should write us and complain
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: to Jonathan. How do they do that?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Well, what you'll have to do is go out and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: get yourself some seeds, seeds to tomatoes and to peppers,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe get some cilantro, get some onions, and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: you're going to grow all of those plants, those vegetables together,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: and then you're going to harvest what grows, and you're
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: going to make your own homemade souls up and you're
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: going to continue to do that until you have perfected
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: it to a point where it could be just under
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: the capsaius in amount to peel paint. But it's delicious
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: and spicy, and you take a jar of that and
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: you go to a local farmer's stand out in a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: rural road and you go to show this off to
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: the farmer, and when you get there, you're going to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: hear someone say, hey, what's up. It'll be me and
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: you can.
• 1:05:59
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• 1:06:03
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• 1:06:06
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• 1:06:09
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• 1:06:17
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• 1:06:20
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• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:24
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• 1:06:27
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• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:33
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• 1:06:36
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• 1:06:39
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• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Yep. So until next time, I have been Jonathan. I'm
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: turning the lights off now. Ariel Strickland and.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: I've been Ariel, and I am Ariel. I just bought
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: a balloon. Me and my girl are take it a ride.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Far away from the dark. Cast it castin Yep, that's nope.
• 1:07:00
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• 1:07:02
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• 1:07:08
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• 1:07:17
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