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Dan in Real Life (Typing a fictional family) with Payge Wicks · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast with Amy Wiggs, your wholehearted life and business coach.
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SPEAKER_00: You should know this podcast will inspire you to grow in self-awareness, be passionate about your faith, and get clear on your calling.
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SPEAKER_00: If you are new here, then welcome to the community of multi-passionate women who love to go deep on topics like faith, Enneagram, relationship, leadership, and community.
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SPEAKER_00: This conversation might provide the step you need to make the change you desire.
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SPEAKER_00: So let's get started.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: Here we are, Paige.
0:44
SPEAKER_01: We're here we are having doing a podcast conversation.
0:48
SPEAKER_01: You in Phoenix, and me still here in Candace.
0:54
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
0:56
SPEAKER_01: Can't believe it.
0:57
SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_01: The last time we got to do a special episode together, we were here standing and crying about your graduation.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: That was in the near future.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: And now here you are, happily replaced, happily settled in at Grand Canyon University.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: And you're a college student.
1:28
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it hasn't been that long, but it has.
1:32
SPEAKER_01: It really has been.
1:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it has.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so give our friends here a quick update on, you know, obviously a lot has transpired.
1:41
SPEAKER_01: And what do you think of Grand Canyon University so far and how you like in the college life?
1:48
SPEAKER_01: I I love it.
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SPEAKER_01: It was hard at first getting adjusted, but that's normal for all college students, whether freshman or senior, but I'm loving the routine and the people I've gotten to meet and the culture that Grand Canyon has would recommend for everyone who's considering um college and who really values that Christian base that it provides.
2:17
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it's just so amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm so grateful to be here.
2:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
2:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's awesome.
2:24
SPEAKER_01: What would you?
2:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm putting you on the spot for all of these.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: We didn't talk about this ahead of time.
2:29
SPEAKER_01: That was kind of the whole purpose.
2:31
SPEAKER_01: We really wanted to just do this and have fun and catch up, and we haven't gotten to talk today.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: We've sent voice messages today, and that's it.
2:38
SPEAKER_01: So this is just off the cuff.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm putting you on the spot.
2:42
SPEAKER_01: What are you maybe most surprised about here five months later-ish, compared to, you know, where you were looking ahead and excited and you knew what college you were going to go to and you knew that fiscal transition.
2:56
SPEAKER_01: What are you probably most surprised about at this point that you go, oh, I wish Spring Page knew this, or Spring Page had no idea that this was going to be her experience in fall.
3:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, seriously.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: I had literally no idea what to expect except for my like one-day couple hour visit here in the ear, like late winter.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: And I'd say spring page, maybe save a little bit more money.
3:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: But I also had no idea what amazing roommates I would have, and that I wouldn't need to worry about it so much.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: And I'm so grateful for the people I've met.
3:40
SPEAKER_01: So I would have said, like, don't worry about it too much.
3:43
SPEAKER_01: The Lord's got you in that.
3:46
SPEAKER_01: I think there's a lot of lessons in that, and that's beautiful.
3:48
SPEAKER_01: I get to see the meaning in your eyes as you say that, and it's so true.
3:54
SPEAKER_01: I would probably say, Amy, good job of crying ahead of time.
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SPEAKER_01: Also, don't worry that it was gonna be catastrophic when you said goodbye.
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SPEAKER_01: It was gonna be hard, but you're gonna have tears, but you're gonna be able to do it.
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SPEAKER_01: You're gonna be able to walk away.
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SPEAKER_01: We can do it, even though it's gonna be a good thing.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: We aren't gonna cry all the way home on the plane, you're gonna be okay.
4:20
SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, it's just life, right?
4:23
SPEAKER_01: All the things we worry about.
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SPEAKER_01: Why the Lord invites us to not worry about tomorrow because we do, and most of it doesn't come true, or we have the grace for that situation we didn't have the day before.
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SPEAKER_01: All the things that in our humanness we worry, we fret, our anxiety.
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SPEAKER_01: The Lord's like, I got it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just chill out.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't worry about it so much.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't worry, girl.
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SPEAKER_01: I got you.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
4:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited to do this podcast episode, and I'm actually surprised that we haven't done it before, that I haven't figured out a way to do it.
5:04
SPEAKER_01: Because we're gonna talk about my second favorite, all-time favorite movie.
5:13
SPEAKER_01: Yes, Dan in Real Life.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: Yes, Dan in Real Life.
5:18
SPEAKER_01: And for those, there are going to be, I'm gonna assume that a lot of our friends haven't gotten to see this movie.
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SPEAKER_01: It came out in 2007.
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SPEAKER_01: It's now distributed by Disney Films.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you have a subscription to the whole Disney Plus thing, you can actually watch this right now.
5:35
SPEAKER_01: So the other piece I'm gonna say on this, our friends who've been listening a long time.
5:41
SPEAKER_01: I'll link it in the show notes.
5:42
SPEAKER_01: But Annalise, my sister, your auntie, and I did a conversation about little women, which is my first all-time favorite piece.
5:51
SPEAKER_01: I would agree.
5:52
SPEAKER_01: And I have watched all the versions more times than I can account, or that I'm honest, uh I'm willing to be honest about Dan in Real Life.
6:01
SPEAKER_01: Again, it's only been out since 2007.
6:03
SPEAKER_01: There's one version of it.
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SPEAKER_01: I it's a fall movie and it has all the wonderful fall vibes.
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SPEAKER_01: So Labor Day hits, it's on.
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SPEAKER_01: I've probably watched it 50 times.
6:17
SPEAKER_01: How about you, Paige?
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SPEAKER_01: I not nearly as many, I am sure.
6:21
SPEAKER_01: No, because like as a kid, I didn't I didn't understand the draw to it.
6:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, I would probably 10 to 15 times that I've I've probably watched it that amount.
6:34
SPEAKER_01: And even just listening to the playlist, it's the epitome of fall, along with the little women.
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SPEAKER_01: The what's the year?
6:43
SPEAKER_01: 1996, I think.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or Nona Rider.
6:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yes.
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SPEAKER_01: That like those two soundtracks are the epitome of fall for me and Charlie Brown Halloween, but you know, it's just yeah, it brings up the feelings of fall and drinking that pumpkin spice latte, and um, it's just so good.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: All the fall vibes for sure.
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SPEAKER_01: I would love to give a shout out to the soundtrack, and I should have written it down.
7:15
SPEAKER_01: The the artist for the soundtrack was an indie artist.
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SPEAKER_01: There is one favorite song that you'll hear a lot.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: It's September 21st, right?
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SPEAKER_01: That's the title of the song.
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SPEAKER_01: Is that the one?
7:29
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
7:29
SPEAKER_01: Let me, I think so.
7:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, look up, yeah.
7:32
SPEAKER_01: Look it, look it up.
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SPEAKER_01: While you look it up, I'll kind of I'll talk about it a little bit more.
7:36
SPEAKER_01: But okay, so fall vibes all the way.
7:39
SPEAKER_01: Now you and I differ where I like one sip of the pumpkin spice latte, and I'm good, but I do love my pumpkin bread and pumpkin muffins.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: Like, don't get me wrong, gluten-free, dairy-free, of course, but so, so good.
7:51
SPEAKER_01: Um, so it that's one of the reasons why I love this movie.
7:55
SPEAKER_01: I also want to just give a nod to um the music, and we're gonna come back to that.
8:00
SPEAKER_01: And maybe it's quintessential fall because it's associated with the movie, and now the movie is associated with fall with me.
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SPEAKER_01: So I could be misleading you, and you might look it up and listen, be like, well, that's great music, but that doesn't feel fall to me.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: So giving that disclaimer, this this movie, I'm one who likes more real life scripts and tales.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: And so take for instance, Parenthood, that was a TV series a long time ago, not necessarily endorsing it, but I really enjoyed the writing where it just captured the essence of life.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: And you feel like you stepped into a day in a life every time you watch the show.
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SPEAKER_01: And the day in in real life, none of the same actors or anything like that, but the same kind of feel where you're just experiencing what this family experiences, and you either want to have those same experiences or you feel so seen and known because they are having similar experiences as you.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: So I would love to be an author who can write that way or screen playwright or whatever someday.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: That's like my someday goal.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: And I either have retirement life or next life.
9:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so right.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, but you're in New Jersey.
9:15
SPEAKER_01: That's where this story is at beginning and taking place.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: And the opening scene displays Dan Burns, who is a widower and a single parent to his three daughters.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: And it's the early morning hours, starts the day, is realizing the void he feels about his wife being gone.
9:35
SPEAKER_01: And you go on and see his day and their journey to an annual family gathering with Dan's brother and sister and their families and his parents, and even a younger brother who definitely plays into the story and that we talk about.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of the setting.
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SPEAKER_01: They go from New Jersey to Oceanside Rhode Island, which is it seems like it's a family vacation home, maybe like his parents' summer home, if you will.
10:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, because their thing is like to celebrate the end of summer or the beginning of fall to put everything away from that summer house.
10:10
SPEAKER_01: Exactly, exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's a really sweet time.
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SPEAKER_01: And I I like little things like that.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: A reminder of families might have to get creative for gathering around non-holiday moments, right?
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SPEAKER_01: When you start expanding, you can still make really special moments and memories together, even if it's not around a holiday.
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SPEAKER_01: And so there's no holiday depicted here, it's just the end of one season and the beginning of another, which is significant in a lot of different ways.
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SPEAKER_01: So perfect timing in that.
10:39
SPEAKER_01: And then okay, let's go back to the music.
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SPEAKER_01: You looked it up, right?
10:42
SPEAKER_01: What do you got for us?
10:44
SPEAKER_01: It's it's just called September by Earth, Wind, and Fire.
10:48
SPEAKER_01: And it's a very popular song, so I'm sure it is.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, exactly.
10:52
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so we have to correct ourselves.
10:54
SPEAKER_01: That that song is in the movie, obviously, not the indie artist, but the rest of the soundtrack was done by an indie artist, and they make an appearance at the end of the show.
11:03
SPEAKER_01: So we won't give that spoiler alert away, but they do make an appearance, which is really fun.
11:08
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that was a cool nod to his music.
11:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
11:13
SPEAKER_01: So, okay.
11:14
SPEAKER_01: What we thought would be really fun to do is we'll be talking about the characters, and in talking about the characters, we'll give some hints and spoilers about the movie.
11:25
SPEAKER_01: I think we'll be able to talk about it without totally ruining everything and giving thing every way.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, my guess.
11:34
SPEAKER_01: My guess is if you haven't seen the movie and after you listen to this conversation, you're probably gonna want to watch it.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: Especially since, you know, most of our friends have the Disney Plus thing, so why not go watch it?
11:46
SPEAKER_01: Why not?
11:46
SPEAKER_01: It's an easy hour or two hours since such a great time.
11:53
SPEAKER_01: Yes, for sure.
11:55
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I mentioned Dan, who really is the main character, hence Dan in real life.
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SPEAKER_01: He is the widower, single parent to three daughters, and we get to know him like all the way around.
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SPEAKER_01: We get to see him as an employee, as an aspiring artist.
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SPEAKER_01: He is a journalist already, but he has some desires there.
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SPEAKER_01: You see him parenting his three daughters, too, which are teenagers, and there's a lot of interesting dynamics there.
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SPEAKER_01: You see him as a son, you see him as a brother, you see him as someone who is interested in a romantic connection as well, or a surprise by a romantic connection, if you will.
12:40
SPEAKER_01: So I'm just kind of curious, Paige, as you've watched the movie and we didn't watch last night, but we have watched this fall.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: Uh yes, I meant to last night, but you know, me too.
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SPEAKER_01: You were out having fun with your girlfriends and arguing.
12:57
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: So, what are your thoughts on Dan's personality type?
13:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm really curious.
13:03
SPEAKER_01: I love his personality type.
13:05
SPEAKER_01: It's relatable when it comes to his family.
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SPEAKER_01: His family is always first, even if it may seem inconvenient or kind of awkward for him, or it kind of pushes him in the back, or you know, whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: His goal is his family, and he loves them very, very well.
13:27
SPEAKER_01: And the things he would do for them as well, you kind of see that played out through the movie when he puts them before himself.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: So I I definitely like that is his thing, is like family is strong aspect, and there's this funny, awkward side that Steve Carell does fairy thing.
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SPEAKER_01: He does so well, and he like it's his thing, and he does it so beautifully to fit into the storyline.
13:55
SPEAKER_01: It's amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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SPEAKER_01: But his goal to also help because part of his job is helping others and providing advice, and so he's good at putting himself in other people's shoes and and trying to provide advice for other people, and just uh he's a family guy and he does it so well.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like the most important thing to him is his family and his service to them.
14:25
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
14:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so what type do you feel like he most represents well?
14:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, and I'm gonna give the caveat here.
14:34
SPEAKER_01: I didn't do it yet.
14:35
SPEAKER_01: When you're typing characters in a play, in a show, in a movie, there's no perfect development of that because you can't see, it's not multifaceted, right?
14:46
SPEAKER_01: You have one dimension that you're able to see.
14:48
SPEAKER_01: So we're just assigning types as a generalization.
14:52
SPEAKER_01: This is absolute generalization.
14:54
SPEAKER_01: Do not go, oh, there's no way that could be my type or that has to be my type, whatever.
14:59
SPEAKER_01: This is just for fun.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: This is just to like identify and highlight some of those attributes, like Paige just spelled out so well.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: And like each type has through characters those certain charac characteristics that they display that, you know, when you type a character, you're just kind of typing it based on them.
15:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:20
SPEAKER_01: I was just thinking about this last night.
15:23
SPEAKER_01: I was trying to decide because I I knew we were gonna have this conversation, and I was like, I don't know, do I see him as a tune, maybe, in his in his love and devotion for his family.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: And then the two on their like in health are fun and loving and intentional.
15:45
SPEAKER_01: They go to that seven because you kind of see his fun personality and his uh like funny personality as well come out.
15:53
SPEAKER_01: So I was maybe thinking a two, but then there's a side of him that longs to be heard as well because he hears other people so much, but when he gets a chance and someone opens the door to share around himself, it it's like it just you know, it's all there.
16:10
SPEAKER_01: And he really he doesn't realize how much he has to share.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll just say I don't know, I'm leaning towards the two.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I want to hear your thoughts because there's always things that you see too that I'm always like, oh yeah, that's right.
16:26
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, and that's why it's so fun to do this because we don't want to type people, we want to understand them.
16:34
SPEAKER_01: So when we're dealing with real life relationships, we want to observe how you've just done, like to be able to celebrate those qualities and see where they go and and those wondering of those directions.
16:48
SPEAKER_01: I think that's the imitation for us instead of saying, you're such a type, this or that.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: These are the thoughts that can be walking, you know, running in the background that can help us love people better and be curious and even ask, tell me more about that, right?
17:01
SPEAKER_01: So yes, I I have vacillated actually between the nine and the six for him.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: But I feel like, especially as you talk about him, I feel better, more clear about the six.
17:15
SPEAKER_01: And okay, does that make is that making sense?
17:18
SPEAKER_01: And I think, yes, go for it.
17:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, I was just gonna say, I was gonna say either the two or there's that six too.
17:25
SPEAKER_01: So I feel like the two and the six are are similar enough where, yeah, yeah.
17:30
SPEAKER_01: But I want to hear your thoughts.
17:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh the two and the six are they have a lot of similarities where their communication pattern tends to come alongside.
17:40
SPEAKER_01: They're neither super withdrawn nor incredibly insertive.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: They can be, but that their more normality is this, you know, more coming alongside everybody.
17:50
SPEAKER_01: And the six tends to vacillate.
17:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't, I think every six does this for the record.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: I think every six does countertype, counterphobic and phobic.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I think they vacillate between that, and you see him do that throughout this evolution of this chapter in his life where he has this phobic tendency, especially when it comes to his kids, not wanting his oldest to drive for the fear, not wanting his daughter to date someone older because of all the fears there, which you know, I totally get that.
18:23
SPEAKER_01: But also, you just see this loyalty play out, and he is thinking about caring that nurturing side to him.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: And then the one of the reasons why I vacillate is that the nine can go to the six in stress.
18:34
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, is this more a nine?
18:36
SPEAKER_01: And we're watching stress play out in his life, but there's just something about his energy that I see that feels more six, and then to your point, that seven piece, because the two actually their two lines of growth are four and eight.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: But I feel like you see the seven in in Dan, but not dominate.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: And so my thought is like the six with you know, you see the seven wing play out in some of the goofiness, and then you know, even in his journalistic job, some of that five research piece and and things like that.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know, those that was my takeaway.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I would completely agree.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: And now thinking through that, that his love and devotion to his family is the loyalty that he has for them and the hilarity of his fear throughout the movie, too.
19:28
SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's you see that plays in as just such part like a funny part of his character, and yeah, and being I think I mean, I'm still just trying to figure out if I'm a six or a seven, but I relate a lot to him and some of the things that he does, you know, like with his lawyer to his family.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, I definitely relate with that a lot, and his fears that are somewhat irrational, but he has great reasons to them.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: But you know, yes, like you like step back and you're like, uh, it's maybe not that big of a deal, or you know, different things like that.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: So I would completely agree with the yeah, type six for his character.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: So now you'll have to watch it again with that lens, and you'll have to tell me what you think and what you see that stands out to you that you confirms or denies so much there.
20:25
SPEAKER_01: I think we could talk about him the whole entire time, but I did write out nine characters.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: I actually just wrote out the names of them and I thought we'll stick with nine.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if we're gonna cover all nine types, so there's no spoiler alert here because we may not.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: One of the other main characters because there's something about um it's Dane.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh, why am I blinking on his last name?
20:49
SPEAKER_01: He is a comedian, not necessarily family friendly, but he he plays Dan's younger brother, Mitch.
20:57
SPEAKER_01: And Mitch, he just kind of when he has a scene, he sort of steals the show in some way.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: He and Steve Burrell play off really well together, and they have that very light-hearted comedic uh intuition, if you will, which is kind of helpful because there is some seriousness to the script overall and the storyline, and so you need those comedic reliefs.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: So, Mitch, I think if I said this, he's known for his carefree lifestyle, he's sort of stereotypes them.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so go for it.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, okay, maybe maybe maybe you're thinking different things, but I say either the four or the seven.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: Um those are my two for him.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: I see the four as a very distinct person, and they're always in search of who they are.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: Maybe, maybe not all the time, but the fours that I have known.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: They're just like this distinct person, and and you know them because they're just so unique.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: unique but also the seven four his kind of a little bit non-committal lifestyle he kind of does whatever he's kind of had a couple like relationships never stayed in one um is up for the party he's the youngest right yep okay so yeah he's the youngest and so he just has that carefreeness I'm I see both but I'm I would probably say the seven out of the two yeah I love that you picked both of those because there are a lot of overlaps and there have been plenty of people that have been torn between the four and seven when they're on their typing journey or even missed.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: So I love that you saw both of that and you know that could play into the dynamic tri-type concept for anybody but I would definitely lean towards the seven and probably because it's more his assertive verbose personality.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: And so I think that's that for me is the clincher and in some ways it would be pretty quick to just stereotype and throw in that like seven all the way.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: For the record I am an SRP, the oldest of four kids and therefore you know not necessarily always the quintessential seven.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: So yes but yeah you pulled off so well yeah yeah okay so there is a love interest in this movie and it's you haven't watched it it's a little more complicated then I'm willing to tell you because there has to be some fun in the journey but you have Marie who is a lovely actress and is played so well and you fall in love with her in this and you feel the angst that she experiences and that she goes through and you see a dynamic evolve that is really sweet and and just real and it's seemingly authentic.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: So yeah I'm curious for you what are some of your first impressions on her personality this one was a little bit harder to be honest but she is the disarming type of personality where you kind of immediately trust her and you kind of fall in love with her really quickly because of her sweetness and her just kindness and overall gentle spirit but she's also fun and smart and funny and brings the life of the party in a way in her own way.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: For this one I like I had a harder time trying to decide or pick out those certain characteristics that would be a certain number per se.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: All right so I'm curious to hear your thoughts about it.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't know yeah I that I don't think there's anything super solid that you go oh d absolutely it but I think what's interesting is I would go maybe to the four possibly the two but the four and part of it is that her idea of her perfect day was to be in a country that she didn't know the language and she could just get lost in it.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: And there was something very romantic size and independent and a unique answer in itself.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of my leaning because to your point there was something that disarmed I think that was a great word she disarmed people right away in the sense of where people felt really comfortable with her.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: And I think there is something but the two and the four can have some of that invitation where you feel safe with yes and you might be more authentically who you are.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: Yes no exactly yes I would completely agree just because um because of what she described her perfect day in it and also just her willingness to do something new and and be caught up in the sun of it and and everything and you'll see it play out but I yes I would completely agree with the four awesome that's great and I really after having this conversation I can't I think I'm gonna have to watch it tonight and probably I'm it's settled.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah we can have two yes exactly okay next is Dan's oldest daughter again Dan's the main character he has three daughters Jane oh I just really like Jane I'm curious to know your take I I think you know one would maybe be a wing and the other would be like the dominant type and it could be either or so I'm I'm just curious for you as you observe Jane and and probably relate to her in in some level of being the oldest right yes oh yes for sure and and as I've gotten older and watched this movie more and more I laugh every time we get to see the the girls interact and just everything.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: Feels very familiar in some level it does yes um yeah let the hearer understand instead of how the hearer understand yeah I would say I love her she has like this peacemaker personality her her goal is to let's see I have to think let's see she is not the epitome of a oldest daughter or an oldest child but um there's that peaceful nature to of her where she's not a she's not super like assertive or I don't know how to best describe it but it's just something so a a peaceful nature I don't know because uh she she knows what she wants but also she's not going to the demand like there's like the situation where she wants to drive and her dad Dan won't let her even though like she gets frustrated at first she doesn't really hold on to the grudge she trusts and loves her dad and I don't know I I'm I can't find the words describe her and yeah yeah she there's a steadiness to her that I think where she's holding she does you know in theory right if your mom passes away you're the oldest daughter there's gonna be a nurtural role that you step into and the responsibility and leading the siblings perhaps but also maybe where other birth order or personality types would really push in in that moment where dad says you can't drive she asks she persists but then she also lets it go so my immediate thought and I that peacemaker element I see that too so my wondering is type one because there's that two side as well but then also that nine side and it's like you can kind of tell she does the right thing because it's what a good daughter does.
29:22
SPEAKER_01: And so that there seems to be that overarching theme for her tale as she plays the supportive role for a lot of other people yeah I I agree I would say there's that nurturer side of the two nurture is a better word maybe a little bit more than peaceful but peaceful does go with the wing nine but there's like that scene when they're driving out to the parents' house and she's the only one awake and her two sisters have like fallen asleep on her and there's like no complaint from her she's just sitting there and she enjoys the moment and it's just she is probably the female anchor in that house for you kind of assume that she has had more a relationship with her mom more than her other siblings just because of the age and the time when her her mom passed away and so she unconsciously took that mother role and it's not like typical she raised her her siblings not her dad did but she had that nurturing role that a man typically doesn't bring as like a woman might so yeah but yeah I would I would agree that like you have the perfect I don't want to make saying perfect is a bad thing and like that the one is like the perfect type and they'd have to be type A.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: No that's not stereotypical or anything like that.
30:50
SPEAKER_01: It's just like she does what is right because what is right is right and it's not that hard to do what is right and a natural thing for her um to not need to cause trouble or anything.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: That's good the one and then her two you can see her wings that she really touches into maybe more than the other characters.
31:15
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:16
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah yeah there's more maybe because of a quick push into maturity even where as a teenager maybe you would see a a personality type really clear and very uh very evident but maybe with her having to grow up quickly and take on some of that whole responsibility there is a more dynamic element to her.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: So I like that I think that's good another one.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: Okay we're gonna talk about the middle daughter Sarah okay no we both are probably very solid on this one so you go for it.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: Right I would pretty immediately say she is our lovely Enneagram eight ding ding yeah I I'm not surprised that you would come up with that I do too and here's why the she is not going to hold back her honest thoughts she is pushing the limits she's pushing the boundaries she's challenging them and she's not just verbose but she is very blunt and I would say she's not always verbose but when she is she's very blunt and straightforward and kind of holds a commanding presence and yes is definitely pushing against some of Dad's direction and his cardrails for her.
32:47
SPEAKER_01: Yes yes that's hilarious to watch just her personality play out on screen and if you know you know you know all the fun things but she does have that strong commanding personality yeah that's that's a great a great way to play put it and also only the ones she feels safe with get to see that vulnerable side of her and just the beauty of her getting to that point to share it.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: And you can see how that progresses a little bit towards the end.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: Just as like you know you get to the best part of the story in the probably ever after per se.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: Just you can see her willingness to be vulnerable with the people she loves and to trust and you can just yeah you can see that growth in her even though she's not the perfect still yeah who is who is who is who is seriously and that's what I like about it.
33:46
SPEAKER_01: This is Dan in real life and they didn't try to sugarcoat anything it's a sweet tale without having some sort of ideal to be reached so yes I would just say there's a lot to observe in this character that feels familiar to us and we'll just kind of throw that out there.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: And so we just laugh a lot because we might experience some of that nature in our home in real time.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: So in real life in real life yeah I have one more thought that popped in my mind as we were talking about Kara actually it was it was about Jane and one of the indicators maybe with her being a type one is that she sits down with her dad and calls her dad out on something and in a different way than an eight would whereas Kara would have been dad you're being so stupid and just like be rude and demeanor but like blind polymonite whereas Jane comes in and privately goes dad what are you doing?
34:50
SPEAKER_01: And does it because the baby sister who we're going to talk about Lily she's the third daughter of Dan's three girls because she kind of comes in to protect and go, hey, you're not doing the right thing you're not being a good dad or you're not having a right dad moment.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: And so that kind of going back to Jane we have Jane and Kara so maybe a one and an eight and what makes those differences you know even in conversation there will be some differences.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: So now we have Lily who is this just sweet younger person.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: She's supposed to be in the third grade so that could be 10 probably right nine or 10 yeah yeah yeah so this was when I even like well do we put it on it because there's an element where I think it's hard to get a real handle on kids' personalities until the teenagers start hitting because you sometimes see the worst of it and um and so it's maybe easier to spot and again just a disclaimer for any new friend who's listening do not type your kids do yourself a favor I I have other podcast episodes that talk about communication patterns and utilize that understanding to meet them in the middle somewhere on the communication pattern level but don't type your kids.
36:09
SPEAKER_01: So just gonna throw that there.
36:10
SPEAKER_01: So Lily was a little bit hard for me.
36:12
SPEAKER_01: I just have an immediate guess that would probably be an easy blanket answer.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: But otherwise I just was curious if something stood out to you.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah she's definitely a little bit harder one because of her age and just because her her character definitely develops but it's also at the same time she's kind of like the anchor she's not the typical youngest child really um right she uh she has the there's an old soul yes there's an old soul element she's articulate and she's smart and she's good at expressing her wisdom and yeah the old soul is like a good way to describe that she's kind of the joy of the little family she's also like the innocence of the family too even though she's gone through hard things she's still this like fun um but docile in the best way youngest you know girl yeah I don't know I agree I agree I'm curious I'm curious to hear what like what type you would think that is because I would honestly have no idea and I'm sure when you say something I'll be like oh yeah but well and that's what's so fun about talking about these sort of things with someone else my thought is a nine I whether that really was the concept of say the screenwriter the play you know the of this for that character development was to put that attribute it was almost like she had to fill the space with that to to be all the things and to and to have that nature of just bringing an anchored presence.
38:00
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know it to me it was easiest to go ah I could definitely see a nine here but almost because I could see a little piece of all the different ties that she brought to their little family unit that I thought was interesting.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: I think the anchor aspect of her personality is like the biggest thing for sure.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah and just her willingness to go along with her dad and and she's still at the age where she still needs like the the parent and she's not a teenager so she can't really go out by herself and she she loves that relationship and kind of um is not bothered by her dad's like issues or or his mistakes or anything but he just she just loves him so well and her siblings so well and all that to say anchored I think is like the best and most prominent thing that we see for her.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah okay next one these two we'll kind of talk about them together because they go hand in hand I really don't know but they do play these anchor roles in this and I love again the dynamic this is real life.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: So you have Nana and Poppy Burns and these are the parents of Dan and his siblings who are all there they own this family home in Rhode Island and they're doing the gathering they're doing the bringing in and they're carrying out these family traditions and you can tell they're caring and taking care of the family really well.
39:34
SPEAKER_01: They're making food and having long leisury meals and also directing their adult children and they're even maybe orchestrating blind dates and pushing kids out of their comfort zone even in their adult era right and they're plenty of decades out of the nest.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: So they're really fun presents and they can help carry the story and guide and direct it and they do play the guides if you will so we always we do like to talk about victim villain hero guide they are some guides in the story.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: So I'm just kind of curious with the little bit that we do see them and as they kind of are throughout the story what's some of your thoughts on Nana and Poppy Burns I love them as a couple it's such like a fun classic grandparents um they fit that very well I love Poppy's laid backness he was very wise and he'll tell you when you need to hear it he'll he'll say the the right thing at the right time when you need to hear it.
40:38
SPEAKER_01: But otherwise he just he's there and it's not like a recrucive to himself but he's just this quiet presence that I just love and then what was granny or what's nanny or nana bird nana she uh she has no problem correcting her children still which is not a bad thing.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: I think as a parent you're still their parent but she loves them and so she's gonna tell them what to do and there's like one scene after dinner where she's like uh she says Dan you're gonna stay and do the dishes by yourself just kind of like as you kind of laugh because she's punishing him in the way that she can punish him for his bad discipline even though he's disciplined in his 40s and a grown man middle aged doesn't really need his mom to discipline him but she still does and you love her for it.
41:37
SPEAKER_01: And she's humorous and speaks her mind um in the best way possible and just loves all of her kids so uniquely and yeah so I would say for her maybe an eight as well I don't know because she is direct and um blunt but also in just like a caring a caring way and then maybe a five for Poppy.
42:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't know because there's that wisdom and they'll share it when he needs to share it and otherwise it's just a like a steady presence I don't know I'm I'm curious to hear what you say yeah no I I really like those guesses.
42:21
SPEAKER_01: I think that could absolutely be accurate.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: And so Nana would make me wonder is she a two going into her line of growth with the eight or is she an eight going into her line of growth with the two so I see that play outright she actually with wisdom lives out that balance of both cares and direction and is not afraid to step into that when needed and you know again even when her grown children and and some direction for their life and orchestrating opportunities and things.
42:54
SPEAKER_01: And yeah I I'm with you on poppy burns I see that five he's supportive he's got truth moms just like the mom where there's these truth bombs they drop he's he's not very assertive and he um yeah and it's kind of like you know you could go to him for some sage wise advice and wisdom and and things and he's uh participating and you could almost like see him thinking more than speaking but there's a lot going on there uh underneath the hood if you will yeah exactly he's he's and he's thinking carefully before he speaks and to make sure it counts so I I think those are great guesses.
43:37
SPEAKER_01: So we we definitely like Poppy and Anna Burns they add a great element to the story and they do like you guys could adopt me yeah like a family home in Rhode Island to go visit.
43:48
SPEAKER_01: So seriously like what next to the beach and everything that'd be nice it's great it's great.
43:56
SPEAKER_01: Okay we actually have two more so we have 10 in total I Think we have time to cover them.
44:01
SPEAKER_01: But just a fun way to wrap it up are two characters who actually play some fun roles and help play a part in character development.
44:12
SPEAKER_01: A little bit of an antagonist in some ways.
44:15
SPEAKER_01: And so they have a very nuanced role.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: They're an antagonist on one set, and you also find yourself rooting for them in another sense.
44:23
SPEAKER_01: So they're multifaceted, which is really fun.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: So the the name alone here, it's Ruthie, and her nickname is Pigface.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: We are not going to explain this.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: You're going to have to watch the movie, but it's Ruthie Pigface Draper.
44:40
SPEAKER_01: All right.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: The name is not going to give at all away what type I think she is, but she's just such a great, and she's played by the lovely Emily Blunt.
44:52
SPEAKER_01: So fantastic plays her.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: Fantastic.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know where this was within her career because I feel like that woman has not aged at all.
45:03
SPEAKER_01: And she's probably about my same age.
45:05
SPEAKER_01: And she looks the same now as she did in 2007.
45:09
SPEAKER_01: So serious to Emily Blunt.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: I hope what you're doing is natural because you know she's beautiful as she is, but it's amazing.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it is.
45:18
SPEAKER_01: It is.
45:19
SPEAKER_01: So what's your initial guess on Ruthie Pigface Draper?
45:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, I love her.
45:27
SPEAKER_01: She's a very outgoing personality.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: She has a lot of growth in like their own life because I think didn't they know her when she was a little bit younger or like family friendly?
45:39
SPEAKER_01: Childhood friend.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:42
SPEAKER_01: So she definitely changes, but she's very successful because she is a plastic surgeon.
45:48
SPEAKER_01: And so my kind of initial thought is she's an Enneagram 3, just with how accomplished she is, and she gets it done.
45:56
SPEAKER_01: She has a Porsche, right?
45:57
SPEAKER_01: Or Mustang.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: It's something really far.
46:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: And she's sure of herself.
46:04
SPEAKER_01: And yes, I would say Enneagram 3.
46:07
SPEAKER_01: She's such a fun and not random, but kind of a random character.
46:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: It's a surprising piece of the story.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: I absolutely agree.
46:18
SPEAKER_01: Enneagram 3, that was my first thing for all the reasons.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: And listen, we love Enneagram 3s.
46:25
SPEAKER_01: There's just, they're just there's some natural beauty, charisma, yes, female, just an ability to draw attention effortlessly and draw the eye and and live like this successful, seemingly successful life because of how they view the world, how they paint their choices and their process.
46:50
SPEAKER_01: And so, anyway, really great character.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely agree.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: I think that was a good guess.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: It's so fun.
46:59
SPEAKER_01: I love her.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: All right, last but not least, we have Marty who plays Kara's boyfriend.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: Kara, as you'll remember, is the middle daughter who, yes, and so, well, again, we're gonna just let you watch the movie.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: He comes in and out of the movie for sure.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: And I I'm just kind of curious for you what your thoughts are.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: He's he's a couple years older, seemingly.
47:24
SPEAKER_01: We we think he's a couple years older than Kara.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: She must be 14, like in ninth grade.
47:30
SPEAKER_01: And pretty quickly on, the dad is alluding that Kara will not be allowed to date till she's 16 because he and then a first meeting is like, that's fine, you can come back in two years.
47:41
SPEAKER_01: So we're seeing, you know, filling in some of the blanks here, but that seems to be what the case is.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: So what do you what are your thoughts on Marty?
47:49
SPEAKER_01: Because he definitely has a distinct role.
47:52
SPEAKER_01: Yes, he does.
47:53
SPEAKER_01: He's so funny.
47:54
SPEAKER_01: I laugh every time he comes on screen.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: His first impressions are like for the dad.
48:00
SPEAKER_01: The first thing he says is like a compliment to his advice column.
48:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it just kind of it cracks me up every time because I mean, sure, that's how you approach someone you like, their dad, but all that to say.
48:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think he's a four just because of his romantic personality.
48:20
SPEAKER_01: He's so romantic.
48:22
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
48:23
SPEAKER_01: He uh you have those hilarious scenes um that I will not say anything about because they are some of the best things of that movie, the hilarity of them, his intentionality with caring.
48:37
SPEAKER_01: He's not put off by Dan's no at all.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, yes, but in a respectful way, like when he gets told and yeah, like it's not like it's not belligerent.
48:52
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, exactly.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: Where you're not like uh like that kid is so disrespectful, and now you're like, this kid is hilarious, and he loves her, even though he's probably 16 and she's 14, or maybe he's like 15.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: I I it's hard to tell the age difference between them, but um I would say he's a four, just because of his charisma and his romantic personality.
49:16
SPEAKER_01: I totally agree.
49:17
SPEAKER_01: I think that is exactly it.
49:19
SPEAKER_01: And again, I know we've talked about a couple of these people, but he does also have some uh uh astute advice that is uh you know is artfully expressed, and he's careful about his choice of words in a way you know he's thought about it a while, and it's important to him that his words reflect his heart and his authentic feelings.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, I was absolutely thinking of four.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, you said yeah, you said it all well.
49:49
SPEAKER_01: I as you're saying that, I was going.
49:51
SPEAKER_01: I think how we have to end this is talking about some of our favorite lines because a beloved movie tends to be quoted, and we have a few of those.
50:03
SPEAKER_01: I've gotten to with Krista Harden, I introduced her to while you were sleeping, and so we talked about that last year.
50:11
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, and so lots of lines from that one.
50:14
SPEAKER_01: And this one, I I find myself there are several lines.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: So one of them that we laugh about a lot, and I will not do it in the right annotation, so you have to watch the movie to hear it.
50:24
SPEAKER_01: But number one line is you are a murderer of love.
50:31
SPEAKER_01: That's Kara's Kara's like one of her best lines.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: That's it is, it is.
50:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh, and that's I was gonna say too.
50:38
SPEAKER_01: Marty said Kara's name, Kara.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: Do you do you remember that?
50:42
SPEAKER_01: Like a couple times when he talks about her, he even says it uniquely, like he says Kara instead of Kara, where that's how the other people pronounce her name.
50:51
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, rest of the family members.
50:53
SPEAKER_01: Kind of interesting.
50:55
SPEAKER_01: I never thought about it before, Ben.
50:56
SPEAKER_01: That's very true.
50:58
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, okay.
50:59
SPEAKER_01: So what are some other lines that you remember?
51:01
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember some of the lines from the movie that you know we say a lot?
51:07
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
51:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's some of these are gonna be so out of context, but this corn is like angel is yeah, is one of those amazing out-of-context lines.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: And like you said, that's what makes them so amazing.
51:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, let's see.
51:25
SPEAKER_01: There was one that that was like really good, and I I can't remember it.
51:31
SPEAKER_01: One of the ones that I think about is when Jane is wanting to drive.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: And again, I watched this movie when you were a little baby.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm pregnant with Haiti.
51:43
SPEAKER_01: And so I haven't lived motherhood, I haven't lived the dynamic of raising teenagers.
51:49
SPEAKER_01: And so he Dan won't let his daughter Jane drive.
51:54
SPEAKER_01: And he's like, it's not that I don't trust you, I don't trust the other million people on the road, you know, and so I've thought of that often when we're talking through things, or there's things that's like, I don't, it's not that I don't trust you.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't just, I just don't trust all the other people.
52:11
SPEAKER_01: So, anyways, those different things.
52:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:16
SPEAKER_01: I just thought of one that I think of every time I fill up gas because it is quite a hilarious quote.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if I'll be able to say this word for word, but the the scene is he's filling gas up on the way to the trip, and Lily is sticking her head out the window, and he's watching as the car gets filled up as the amount also goes up, and he's like, There goes Jane's education, college fun, and then he's like, Oh, and then there goes Tara's.
52:46
SPEAKER_01: I think yours is good, Lily.
52:49
SPEAKER_01: Uh no, there it goes.
52:50
SPEAKER_01: So, like every time I feel gas, I always think of that because boss is expensive these days, as we know.
52:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I always think of that a line because it's hilarious.
52:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's just a fun, a funny thing.
53:04
SPEAKER_01: It is.
53:05
SPEAKER_01: I absolutely agree.
53:06
SPEAKER_01: I think you deliver that really well because and uh just a reminder 2007, we were kind of creeping into a recession, gas prices skyrocketed.
53:15
SPEAKER_01: And so it, you know, it's kind of sad to see like, oh, those prices are normal for us now.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: I do too.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: I am always thinking, like, oh, there goes Paige's college education, there goes Hades, there goes Miles.
53:30
SPEAKER_01: Miles is a safe, oh no, there it goes.
53:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
53:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I loved this page.
53:38
SPEAKER_01: I know that you're still experiencing hundred plus degree temperatures, so it doesn't feel like fall for you.
53:47
SPEAKER_01: And you're almost there though.
53:49
SPEAKER_01: So Phoenix is definitely as hot as you expected, but you're able to bear it, yeah.
53:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh yes, and I'm and I'm getting a very nice tan, I must say.
53:59
SPEAKER_01: For so that's nice.
54:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the rest of us we're not exactly bundling up here in Kansas City by any stretch, but the pool days are definitely over.
54:11
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, sweet daughter of mine, this was so fun.
54:16
SPEAKER_01: I selfishly think that we just need to make this a weekly thing and figure out something to talk about and you know, record conversation.
54:25
SPEAKER_01: Next time we do Little Women, the the one with Winona Ryder.
54:29
SPEAKER_01: I I think that'd be fun.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
54:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, yes, I mean it wouldn't be a bad thing to discuss again or maybe Downton Abbey next year for sure when it comes out again.
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SPEAKER_01: That that's in the archive, but there might just need to be a refresh because you know it'd be so fun.
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SPEAKER_01: We could do it with Ani.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we could do it with Anna Lise.
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SPEAKER_01: That would be so perfect.
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SPEAKER_01: I'd love it.
54:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you, sweetheart, for indulging me and our friends who are listening.
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SPEAKER_01: I hope that you enjoyed this and just smiled along with us, had a little break from the mundane.
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SPEAKER_01: And now, if you haven't already had this movie on your rotation and your playlist, watch it.
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SPEAKER_01: And again, it's family friendly.
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SPEAKER_01: You just your younger kids aren't going to appreciate it, but it is you know something that you can enjoy and have a good laugh over, and you know, enjoy those fall vibes, whether you're you're in Phoenix with 100 plus degrees or in Michigan and you know, the northeast that are cooling off pretty quick.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yep.
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SPEAKER_01: Get it on that playlist.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right.
55:43
SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you, Paige, for joining me and just love you.
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SPEAKER_01: I love you too.
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SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me do this with you.