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- 0:02Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football. That should never happen.
- 0:06Speaker 1: When you're taking a knee, the game is ooh, that
- 0:08Speaker 1: was cheap. Five to Seattle. It is Monday, Little Vember.
- 0:18Speaker 1: This is Jaguars. Jaguars Happy always said by Hey now
- 0:28Speaker 1: a guy who wants you to know the only Polden
- 0:31Speaker 1: matters is the CBS Bowl. J Peace, What does that mean?
- 0:40Speaker 1: I have no idea? Why does my headset sound all weird?
- 0:44Speaker 1: I don't know? I have no does yours? This season
- 0:50Speaker 1: ended yesterday? What are we doing a show for? What
- 0:53Speaker 1: is going on? Pete? And we got five to go? Baby,
- 0:59Speaker 1: this is Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm JP Shaddrick, Tony was
- 1:02Speaker 1: Sally to my left. You are right, Pete Prisco. This
- 1:05Speaker 1: to our south in Fort Lauderdale. And here's what's coming
- 1:08Speaker 1: up on the show today. We'll recap Jaguars losing again
- 1:13Speaker 1: for the final score in Nashville yesterday, the run defense
- 1:18Speaker 1: or lack thereof again, inconsistent offense. Five games to go,
- 1:24Speaker 1: now what we'll get some social media questions and yes, sir,
- 1:28Speaker 1: we got some doozies. Today. We'll go around the division
- 1:31Speaker 1: and around the National Football league. That's all coming up.
- 1:34Speaker 1: That's the show. Douc Marone after the game yesterday in Nashville,
- 1:39Speaker 1: trying to get things right the rest of the way.
- 1:43Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I told the players
- 1:45Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm gonna tell you. It's gonna be
- 1:46Speaker 1: the same questions. You know about jobs, switching quarterbacks, changes
- 1:50Speaker 1: players and all that stuff. And you know, I still
- 1:53Speaker 1: believe I don't know what happens in this slave, but
- 1:55Speaker 1: we're gonna work our ass off to get this team
- 1:58Speaker 1: right somehow, some way. That's the job. Um, put your
- 2:03Speaker 1: head down on my pist. Yes am I embarrassed, Yes
- 2:06Speaker 1: I am that, And and I'm not speaking for anyone else.
- 2:08Speaker 1: You're gonna have to tell them, but I promised them
- 2:11Speaker 1: that I am going to do a better job, and
- 2:12Speaker 1: I'm gonna work my butt off to get this thing right.
- 2:15Speaker 1: All right. That's set the stage for the week ahead
- 2:18Speaker 1: and for the month ahead for this Jaguars team. Three
- 2:22Speaker 1: consecutive losses, but I combined a hundred one to thirty
- 2:26Speaker 1: six to division rivals, and I think it's the first
- 2:29Speaker 1: time that uh, we've lost three division games since two
- 2:33Speaker 1: thousand and the first time in the Hittor to row
- 2:36Speaker 1: three in a row, and the first time in the
- 2:38Speaker 1: history of the franchise that we've lost three in a
- 2:41Speaker 1: row by a margin of there was a it was
- 2:45Speaker 1: a close call in the fifteen where they had twenties
- 2:49Speaker 1: plus twenty plus and the nineteen that's the next closest
- 2:53Speaker 1: I was on the expansion Nicky, I feel pretty good
- 3:00Speaker 1: about our expansion team now, I mean compared to this mess, well,
- 3:09Speaker 1: there's no way to sugarcoat it. I mean it's a
- 3:13Speaker 1: it's not very good right now. The team isn't very good.
- 3:15Speaker 1: It's bad football. And you have to look at every
- 3:22Speaker 1: level of the organization on the football side, so starting
- 3:29Speaker 1: with Tom, Dave, Doug, and it's their responsibility. I mean,
- 3:36Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's where that's what
- 3:39Speaker 1: they were hired to do. And right now it's not
- 3:43Speaker 1: going very well. It's not good enough. It's uh, it's
- 3:47Speaker 1: well built, it's well below good enough. Doug said it,
- 3:51Speaker 1: Dugs called it. I think Doug's been very honest and transparent. Um,
- 3:57Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what happens and what decisions
- 4:00Speaker 1: are made and uh, and it is it's not good
- 4:06Speaker 1: right now. I mean there's I'm looking looking for and
- 4:09Speaker 1: I missed her, Like, hey, like figure out there's opportunity.
- 4:15Speaker 1: You know, you're never out of it, and you know that.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Someone asked me days like, well, you were four and
- 4:19Speaker 1: seven and nine. I said, that's not even close to
- 4:23Speaker 1: the same situation. Number one. In n this team was
- 4:29Speaker 1: losing close games. This team was not we trust me.
- 4:32Speaker 1: I was in the locker room in ninety six. We
- 4:34Speaker 1: weren't talking about the playoffs. At four and seven. We're
- 4:37Speaker 1: worried about, like how do we win a game? And
- 4:41Speaker 1: so that's where you have to go back to. If
- 4:43Speaker 1: you're this team, it's like like forget everything else, Like
- 4:46Speaker 1: the playoffs are such a pipe dream right now, and
- 4:50Speaker 1: so like inconsequential, why would you even mention it? That's
- 4:55Speaker 1: my point, Like I mean, like response to the what
- 5:00Speaker 1: people asking, like, it doesn't matter. You gotta win a
- 5:02Speaker 1: football game. You gotta win a football Game's over. It's
- 5:05Speaker 1: over the thing as you knew it two weeks ago
- 5:09Speaker 1: during the bye week. Is over. The whole thing, all
- 5:12Speaker 1: the way across the board. It's done. It's over. What
- 5:18Speaker 1: do you mean, what's it's over. They're gonna be major
- 5:21Speaker 1: sweeping changes. They're coming, it's done. But like number one,
- 5:27Speaker 1: you don't know that. Oh come on, Tony, you know that.
- 5:31Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that. Like the only person,
- 5:35Speaker 1: two more games the rest of the way. Two more
- 5:38Speaker 1: And that's being generous, Pete. I have no idea what's
- 5:41Speaker 1: gonna happen. Here's this is what I do know. I
- 5:44Speaker 1: know's gonna happen. I don't know. I know this that
- 5:48Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin was hired to run the football side of
- 5:52Speaker 1: this business. There's two people. Mark Lamping runs the business side.
- 5:57Speaker 1: He's responsible for what happens on that side. I'm Conflin
- 6:00Speaker 1: is responsible before it happens on the football side of
- 6:04Speaker 1: this organization. That I don't know what Tom's gonna do.
- 6:09Speaker 1: I I think Tom might just walk away. That's just
- 6:12Speaker 1: a hunch. I don't know why, but I just have
- 6:13Speaker 1: a hunch. I don't know what he's gonna do, but
- 6:16Speaker 1: it's his responsibility. That's what he was hired to do. Two.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Build a winning organization, win football games, compete for the
- 6:24Speaker 1: NFC title, getting the playoffs, and give yourself a chance
- 6:27Speaker 1: every year to go win a Lombardi Trophy. That's the
- 6:31Speaker 1: that's the that's that's what that's what we At the
- 6:33Speaker 1: end of the day, this organization is here to win
- 6:35Speaker 1: football games and that's what you do in the NFL.
- 6:39Speaker 1: And so I don't know what Tom's gonna do. Well,
- 6:43Speaker 1: maybe Tom's not gonna be the one making the decision,
- 6:45Speaker 1: but he but he is. It's his job, that's what
- 6:49Speaker 1: he was hired to do. But maybe he's not gonna
- 6:52Speaker 1: be around to make the decision. I don't know that
- 6:58Speaker 1: I'm saying right now where we sit today. What we
- 7:00Speaker 1: do know, Pete, is Tom Coughlin is in charge and
- 7:03Speaker 1: it is his job responsibility. Whatever you want to say
- 7:07Speaker 1: to what happened, Whatever happens on the football side, that's okay.
- 7:12Speaker 1: But personnel, that's coaching, that's no. I'm not I'm telling
- 7:16Speaker 1: you what a the fact is today. Look, I have
- 7:20Speaker 1: nothing but the us most respect for Tom Coughlin. The
- 7:22Speaker 1: list came out the other day, the twenty greatest coaches,
- 7:25Speaker 1: and he wasn't on it and infuriated me. There's no
- 7:28Speaker 1: way that Tony Dungee should be on any list ahead
- 7:30Speaker 1: of Tom Coughlin. Tom Coughlin will go into the Hall
- 7:32Speaker 1: of Fame and I can't wait to sit there front
- 7:34Speaker 1: and center to see him do it. Probably, How is
- 7:36Speaker 1: how is Tom won two Super Bowls? How is he
- 7:40Speaker 1: not ahead of I don't know. And I love Tony Dungee,
- 7:45Speaker 1: but Tom was a better coach of Tony dung any
- 7:47Speaker 1: one too. So that's here, that's an a side, that's
- 7:51Speaker 1: an aside. What's going on in this organization right now?
- 7:55Speaker 1: There is not enough talent to win and that Tom
- 8:00Speaker 1: Gonflin's job. And so that's what how to turn so
- 8:06Speaker 1: quickly though, because they had talent a couple of years ago, Yeah,
- 8:09Speaker 1: two years ago they had town, but the majority of
- 8:11Speaker 1: the talent, if you look at it too much, was
- 8:16Speaker 1: free agent talent that changes quickly. You overpay you um
- 8:21Speaker 1: and if you go back to which I love, it
- 8:25Speaker 1: was such a fun year. But we said it on
- 8:28Speaker 1: this show. It was not repeatable. That you cannot count
- 8:32Speaker 1: on winning football games that way in the division you
- 8:35Speaker 1: played for Your four division wins were against second and
- 8:39Speaker 1: third string quarterbacks. I mean that's yeah, I mean that's
- 8:44Speaker 1: the reality. You're built that way. It's not sustainable. I
- 8:49Speaker 1: don't care if you beat beat the first starting quarterbacks,
- 8:52Speaker 1: that's stable. But my point, I agree with my whole point,
- 8:56Speaker 1: was it a perfect storm. It was perfect. Story wasn't
- 8:58Speaker 1: repeatd and that's fine that happened, but to say that
- 9:01Speaker 1: you can count on that is not accurate. And you
- 9:05Speaker 1: had a situation where you had a number of free
- 9:08Speaker 1: agents that were signed. And give credit to Tom and Dave.
- 9:11Speaker 1: They signed him that had all time career years and
- 9:17Speaker 1: it worked out. But from that team, let's just go
- 9:20Speaker 1: through it. Gibson's gone, had a great year, Barry Church
- 9:23Speaker 1: has gone, had a great year, Marcel Darius is on
- 9:25Speaker 1: I R. Malik Jackson gone, had a great year. Plays
- 9:29Speaker 1: Campbell's two years older, and he's not playing like you
- 9:33Speaker 1: used to, a j boy older, not playing the way.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey no longer on the team, Dante Faller longer
- 9:41Speaker 1: not playing well. But forget that. Dante Faller no longer
- 9:44Speaker 1: team uh twenty, Jalen Ramsey no longer in the team.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Like the majority of that defense is even here and
- 9:52Speaker 1: they carried this team well, and how many guys from
- 9:56Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball are still here? Well
- 9:59Speaker 1: that the offense is a whole different story. I mean, well,
- 10:01Speaker 1: they were good, but how many guys from that offensive
- 10:04Speaker 1: team are still contributors right now? Lender Cam for Net
- 10:10Speaker 1: a j Can the receiving corp. Outside of uh no
- 10:15Speaker 1: chart No. Calmly Ded was a role player. Uh Keelan
- 10:21Speaker 1: Cole was on that team. He had an impactful year.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Marquis is gone. Uh, I don't know who. I can't
- 10:27Speaker 1: remember the Marcedes Lewis is gone. Um who's a key blocker?
- 10:33Speaker 1: So what does that fall? Is it falling time? Does
- 10:35Speaker 1: it falling Dave? Does it fall on the coach? It's
- 10:38Speaker 1: sort to that because there's always gonna be turnover on
- 10:41Speaker 1: your roster, particularly if you go out and get the
- 10:42Speaker 1: older guys like that. No, but but but it's a
- 10:46Speaker 1: fair question. So where it falls it falls on. I
- 10:49Speaker 1: mean it's Tom's responsibility at the end of the day. Yes,
- 10:52Speaker 1: he's he's the boss. No different, like no different. If
- 10:56Speaker 1: something happens on the business side, it's like Mark Lamping,
- 10:59Speaker 1: he's the boss. And that's just the way I mean,
- 11:02Speaker 1: they they're they signed up for it, that's what they
- 11:04Speaker 1: were hired to do. And and so you have to
- 11:07Speaker 1: go back and when you you miss undraft picks and
- 11:11Speaker 1: you go through free agency, this this happens and so
- 11:16Speaker 1: all of a sudden you start having holes in the
- 11:20Speaker 1: roster and it's hard to fill them because we said
- 11:25Speaker 1: this last week. And Pete, you've been covering this league
- 11:28Speaker 1: as long as I played it for a team in
- 11:31Speaker 1: National now and you've covered it for the Times Union
- 11:33Speaker 1: before I even got here. Yeah, and if you look
- 11:37Speaker 1: at it, the successful teams build through the draft and
- 11:41Speaker 1: sprinkling free agency. Yeah, they're best players are their draft picks,
- 11:46Speaker 1: and especially they avoid bad usually in a lot of situations,
- 11:50Speaker 1: they avoid terrible contracts. I mean, Okay, Tony, let's just say,
- 11:55Speaker 1: for the sake of this whole conversation, you're taking over
- 11:58Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars next year, right, You're gonna take it over,
- 12:03Speaker 1: run it. The assets clearly are the two draft picks
- 12:07Speaker 1: in the first round, big time assets. But go through
- 12:11Speaker 1: that roster and tell me where the other assets are. Well,
- 12:15Speaker 1: I think we have good I think I think Josh
- 12:18Speaker 1: Allen's is going to be a heck of a player. Bingo.
- 12:21Speaker 1: I'll tell you if I agree with your dog. I think, uh,
- 12:24Speaker 1: I think Jannique is a very good pass rusher. What
- 12:27Speaker 1: do you do with him? Though you have no you
- 12:29Speaker 1: have a little cap room, and you gotta find a
- 12:30Speaker 1: way to keep him. You're gonna pay him the big
- 12:31Speaker 1: money in this tough situation, you have to make that decision.
- 12:34Speaker 1: I'm not like one thing Pete number one. I'm not
- 12:37Speaker 1: the GM, I'm not in charge. I'll go through where
- 12:39Speaker 1: I see the assets. I'm not cutting like we do
- 12:41Speaker 1: this every year. Unfortunately, I'm not cutting it. I'm not cutting.
- 12:46Speaker 1: I'm not doing I'm not cutting the team either, but
- 12:47Speaker 1: I'm just telling where the OKAD assets. I think dj
- 12:50Speaker 1: Hark is a good player as an opportunity to be
- 12:53Speaker 1: number one. I think Leonard four Nette in the right system.
- 12:57Speaker 1: I mean, he's a power back, downhill guy. But you
- 13:00Speaker 1: have to commit to say we're gonna have tight big
- 13:02Speaker 1: tight ends and fullback on the roster because he would
- 13:04Speaker 1: like he gets north and south and he has good
- 13:06Speaker 1: hands out of the backfield, like he's an effective player.
- 13:09Speaker 1: I thought, I'm gonna I'm not gonna argue that that's
- 13:12Speaker 1: an asset. I think I thought he had an outstanding
- 13:14Speaker 1: game yesterday. How about a quarterback. I don't know if
- 13:18Speaker 1: there's an asset there or not. It might be an overprice,
- 13:21Speaker 1: over priced asset. It's gonna be. The quarterback situation is
- 13:24Speaker 1: interesting to me because it's not like Nick Foles is
- 13:27Speaker 1: played terrible by any means, and like it was a
- 13:31Speaker 1: good yesterday. But here's my point. If Gardner Minshews in there,
- 13:35Speaker 1: you're not winning the game by getting you get up
- 13:37Speaker 1: two yards rushing, it's not gonna You're not gonna win.
- 13:40Speaker 1: What did seven three at a half? And they've done nothing?
- 13:43Speaker 1: Seven three? So and this team struggled when Gardner was
- 13:47Speaker 1: in there. The score points as well, But the who
- 13:51Speaker 1: paying Gardener million dollars or whatever the pain is No.
- 13:55Speaker 1: I'm bringing up the point of people saying, well, bench
- 13:57Speaker 1: Folds now and put Gardner like that's gonna fix everything
- 13:59Speaker 1: that doesn't know. The bigger question is did they make
- 14:03Speaker 1: a mistake by paying Folds. Well, I think you have
- 14:05Speaker 1: five games to find out right now. As of right
- 14:10Speaker 1: now after two games of them playing, what would your
- 14:13Speaker 1: answer be? Way too early to make that judgment. I'm
- 14:15Speaker 1: not making the judgment, but you can get an idea
- 14:19Speaker 1: right now would be yes, they paid them too much,
- 14:23Speaker 1: and and his attitude after the game needs to need
- 14:26Speaker 1: some working on. But I mean, people, come on, man.
- 14:29Speaker 1: The one thing that I want to be consistent here
- 14:32Speaker 1: is we know you over paying free agency. You always do,
- 14:37Speaker 1: so just say you paid too much. It's just it's
- 14:39Speaker 1: a stupid conversation. The question should be, because he's now
- 14:43Speaker 1: your quarterback, he's on your roster, can you win and
- 14:47Speaker 1: get to the Can you win the NFC South and
- 14:50Speaker 1: get to the playoffs with Nick Foles your quarterback? That's
- 14:53Speaker 1: the question you have to ask yourself, and you have
- 14:55Speaker 1: to make that decision over the next five weeks. And
- 14:59Speaker 1: are you built take them pay them that money. They
- 15:01Speaker 1: made the decision already in March. I'm not gonna debate,
- 15:08Speaker 1: go back and debate whether it's right or wrong. And
- 15:11Speaker 1: we can go through and debate draft picks. We can
- 15:13Speaker 1: do all that revisionist history. It's much easier to sit
- 15:16Speaker 1: here and with you know, looking back, having vision. I'm saying,
- 15:20Speaker 1: you asked me, sitting here today, looking forward, what decisions
- 15:26Speaker 1: do you make? Nick Foles is on your team. He's
- 15:28Speaker 1: going to be on your team next year because of
- 15:31Speaker 1: the cap situation and how much you paid him and guaranteed.
- 15:35Speaker 1: And so the question now is you look forward and
- 15:38Speaker 1: as you evaluate things, because you can't go back and
- 15:41Speaker 1: change it. It's not gonna it's impossible. And so you
- 15:46Speaker 1: now have to evaluate the next five weeks and the
- 15:49Speaker 1: question you have to answer and you have to make
- 15:51Speaker 1: a decision. Can Nick Foles be your quarterback to win
- 15:55Speaker 1: the a f C South, getting the playoffs and contend
- 15:57Speaker 1: to win a Lombardi Trophy because that at the end
- 15:59Speaker 1: of the day, that's all that matters. And what's the
- 16:02Speaker 1: answer to that question. I'll tell you in the five weeks.
- 16:05Speaker 1: I don't know you have an idea. Right now, we
- 16:08Speaker 1: have five more shows to do, I mean, all the
- 16:10Speaker 1: good stuff right now. Did you notice on the outthrow
- 16:13Speaker 1: he made that the ball barely got there. It looked
- 16:16Speaker 1: like he has no zip on the ball. I also
- 16:18Speaker 1: saw an out route that had a lot of zip
- 16:20Speaker 1: on it. But you know what's what I'm talking about.
- 16:22Speaker 1: It it looked like it was in the air for
- 16:25Speaker 1: about six weeks. It was like I always like the
- 16:27Speaker 1: same as Alia balloon. Listen, Pete. I've been watching him practice.
- 16:32Speaker 1: He's coming off collarbone. I don't know what the impact is.
- 16:36Speaker 1: I mean, you have to ask the trainers, the coaching staff.
- 16:38Speaker 1: He sees him every day and Fulls didn't say anything.
- 16:40Speaker 1: They asked him about that after the game. He said,
- 16:42Speaker 1: he's fine. I mean it could have been. He also
- 16:44Speaker 1: at times didn't look cover from the pocket, his feet
- 16:46Speaker 1: weren't always square. I mean it could be a number
- 16:47Speaker 1: of things. You know that pete, that lower body can
- 16:49Speaker 1: get in the right position. Half the time is the
- 16:51Speaker 1: battle and feeling confident where you want to go at
- 16:53Speaker 1: the ball. We make it before we go to break
- 16:56Speaker 1: the point I'm making JP and Tony is this lost
- 16:59Speaker 1: in the how horrible the defense has been, and it
- 17:02Speaker 1: has been horrible. Is the fact that he hasn't been
- 17:05Speaker 1: that good period, end of story, in the two games
- 17:10Speaker 1: that we have seen him. I would say he's average.
- 17:14Speaker 1: That's it now if you want to compare it to
- 17:17Speaker 1: making the money he is, which I think is dangerous
- 17:19Speaker 1: because he's now on your roster. Fair is he a
- 17:22Speaker 1: guy that is top ten quarterback in this league like
- 17:25Speaker 1: he's getting paid. I don't think so either. We will
- 17:28Speaker 1: delve into that a bit more a little bit later,
- 17:30Speaker 1: the quarterback play and the play of the offense as
- 17:33Speaker 1: a whole. But coming up next, we gotta get into
- 17:36Speaker 1: this defense. Yes we do. Two hundred nineteen rushing yards
- 17:41Speaker 1: allowed yesterday, Derrick Henry with another highlight game against the Jaguars,
- 17:45Speaker 1: will break it all down when we come back. Your
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- 21:12Speaker 1: gave up a lot offis most it plays on defense,
- 21:14Speaker 1: meaning you know, obviously the naked naked to the quarterback,
- 21:17Speaker 1: the over rouse to play action pass um, you know,
- 21:20Speaker 1: and and obviously the run. We thought we had a
- 21:22Speaker 1: good tack on plan. Our three technique got reached and
- 21:25Speaker 1: um gave up the big run. We should still get
- 21:27Speaker 1: him down at the forty our safeties, Um, obviously, you know,
- 21:31Speaker 1: can do a better job there, Head coach jagarone yesterday
- 21:36Speaker 1: in Nashville after the Jaguars lost to the Tennessee Titans
- 21:39Speaker 1: forty two twenty the final score and welcome back to
- 21:42Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, j P Shadrick,
- 21:45Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli, Pete Brisco are breaking it all down and
- 21:49Speaker 1: we go to the Jaguars defense. Yesterday two d nineteen
- 21:54Speaker 1: rushing yards allowed in the game, third consecutive game allowing
- 21:58Speaker 1: over two hundred rushing yards. Derrick Henry has another highlight
- 22:02Speaker 1: real type of day with a seventy four yard score
- 22:05Speaker 1: with the draw strings bouncing around, their hair, flying out
- 22:09Speaker 1: on the back of his helmet, stiff arm and guys
- 22:11Speaker 1: down the sideline again. And we talked about it all week.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Guys like you gotta stop Henry and can they do it? Well,
- 22:19Speaker 1: they proved they could not do it again three straight games.
- 22:22Speaker 1: So is this um is that it's over? Is that
- 22:26Speaker 1: over six yards and three games? That's that's tough? Um?
- 22:37Speaker 1: It's little litterally literally unheard of in Jaguar's history. Yeah,
- 22:41Speaker 1: I mean you watched the tape and I watched it
- 22:43Speaker 1: and like schematically like what they're doing is sound in
- 22:48Speaker 1: my opinion. But when guys are in the wrong gap,
- 22:51Speaker 1: they're getting reached, they don't get off blocks, they're getting
- 22:53Speaker 1: pushed around. We have defensive lineman getting pushed five six
- 22:56Speaker 1: yards down the field. Our linebackers are not reacting properly.
- 23:01Speaker 1: And then you know, what do you expect? That's what's
- 23:05Speaker 1: gonna happen, And that's just bad football. And then you
- 23:09Speaker 1: know the straight arm down the field. He's a great
- 23:12Speaker 1: player and he is one of the best stuff stuff
- 23:14Speaker 1: arms in all football. And you got one or two
- 23:16Speaker 1: choices there. You gotta knock that thing down. You gotta
- 23:19Speaker 1: chop it and tackle him, or you gonna go go
- 23:22Speaker 1: low and go out his feet. But you can't just
- 23:24Speaker 1: run with him and let him push you away. One
- 23:26Speaker 1: or the other. Chop it and get on him, or
- 23:30Speaker 1: go and tackle him low, And I would like I
- 23:33Speaker 1: would last year's game would I would recommend tackling low.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Then you got a tree trunk hitting you in the head. Well,
- 23:41Speaker 1: you know what, that's part of the deal. Sign another one.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Here's another one. How about don't let him get going.
- 23:48Speaker 1: He's not the runner, and he's like for Nett. If
- 23:49Speaker 1: he doesn't get going, he's not gonna get going. He's
- 23:53Speaker 1: actually he's much different than for Net. But you know
- 23:57Speaker 1: what I mean, if he starts, he he is really good.
- 24:01Speaker 1: He has a great jump cut, he's a zone runner.
- 24:04Speaker 1: He's an outstanding zone scheme runner. Leonard is a very
- 24:09Speaker 1: good downhill gap runner. So they're different styles. They're both
- 24:14Speaker 1: big backs. They have that in common. Um, But you know,
- 24:19Speaker 1: for he, you know, Derrick Henry has one of the
- 24:21Speaker 1: greatest best death arms in football right now. And when
- 24:25Speaker 1: you don't stay in your gap and you get pushed around,
- 24:30Speaker 1: there's not a defense you can design for you. It
- 24:35Speaker 1: goes back to the personnel. Then, yes, the argument, I
- 24:41Speaker 1: don't that's where I go. Now, that doesn't excuse the
- 24:44Speaker 1: coach of the coach's job is not only schematically to
- 24:48Speaker 1: set up you know, the right scheme is you gotta
- 24:49Speaker 1: get your guys to play. And now if they just
- 24:55Speaker 1: can't do it, then I don't know what you do
- 24:59Speaker 1: to under yards a game on the ground, But I
- 25:03Speaker 1: don't see it being a schematic issue when I watch,
- 25:08Speaker 1: I'm not and I mean maybe at times, but if
- 25:13Speaker 1: you give up, it is hard. And as you said, JP,
- 25:19Speaker 1: I like it's unheard of. I'd like to know the
- 25:20Speaker 1: last time an NFL team gave up three straight games.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Doesn't happen. It's almost impossible to do. And so when
- 25:30Speaker 1: that happens, I mean it is. You have to look
- 25:33Speaker 1: at every level. You have to look at picking the players,
- 25:38Speaker 1: you have to look at coaching the players. You have
- 25:40Speaker 1: to look at the players ef you know, skill set,
- 25:45Speaker 1: all of them together. When you see something that unheard of, Pete,
- 25:50Speaker 1: do you remember a time as this happened in the league. No, oh,
- 25:56Speaker 1: I don't. And I'm trying to think about this game here.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Who's that fault? Coaches or players here? And what this game?
- 26:08Speaker 1: I think we've lost Peter. You there, now we've lost Pete.
- 26:14Speaker 1: We'll get back with Pete in just a minute. Yeah,
- 26:17Speaker 1: it's gotta be I'm sure it's happened at some point Tony. Um.
- 26:22Speaker 1: But this is a rarity obviously in the NFL. Ye
- 26:26Speaker 1: the wrong kind of that. It smells terrible. It's not
- 26:30Speaker 1: where you want to be. Um. Uh. Yeah. And so
- 26:37Speaker 1: what you got when you look at that long play
- 26:42Speaker 1: and Doug talked about it, you have the three technique
- 26:45Speaker 1: going inside. He gets overreached, he's in the wrong gap,
- 26:47Speaker 1: which messes up everybody else, right, Yeah, and on that
- 26:51Speaker 1: play with Taven, but he's not the only offender. Um.
- 26:55Speaker 1: You have guys getting pushed off the ball. You have
- 26:57Speaker 1: no one getting off blocks, um. And you have poor tackling.
- 27:02Speaker 1: And so you know, Doug talked about last week getting
- 27:05Speaker 1: back to the fundamentals of tackling and stuff. You know,
- 27:07Speaker 1: for the first half, they did a good job, gave
- 27:12Speaker 1: up seven points, but they were I hate to say this,
- 27:17Speaker 1: but it looked physically overmatched. Yeah, they just got overmatched.
- 27:21Speaker 1: They just got blown off the ball. I got blocked.
- 27:25Speaker 1: You gotta get off the ball, you gotta stay in
- 27:26Speaker 1: your feet, you gotta run, you gotta tackle. I gotta
- 27:29Speaker 1: beat guys. At the end of the day, this is
- 27:31Speaker 1: a game about beating the guy in front of you.
- 27:33Speaker 1: Is it here's a question for you. Is it more
- 27:36Speaker 1: of the that those guys are just better or is
- 27:39Speaker 1: it a air bet or is it an effort? They're better?
- 27:42Speaker 1: They're better. Okay, it's not a lack of effort. At times,
- 27:46Speaker 1: it probably is, you know, you see times, but not
- 27:49Speaker 1: that's not the core problem. I don't think you have
- 27:52Speaker 1: a bunch of guys out there jaking it, laying down
- 27:54Speaker 1: their line was just better. They're better than the guys
- 27:57Speaker 1: up front for Jacksonville. They're better end of the day. Um,
- 28:04Speaker 1: And that's hard. It's hard to say for me because
- 28:07Speaker 1: you know it's hard. I know it's hard. Guys don't
- 28:09Speaker 1: like hearing that, especially when you're a player. But the
- 28:12Speaker 1: only way you change that you gotta do something about it.
- 28:15Speaker 1: They got beat, they got blocked. There's no coaching that
- 28:19Speaker 1: is gonna like magically fix that. Like there's not a
- 28:22Speaker 1: scheme that all of a sudden like everything's fixed. When
- 28:26Speaker 1: guys are getting pushed off the ball and running through
- 28:28Speaker 1: you and and running wide open, and we even got
- 28:31Speaker 1: to that, the guys running wide open in the second
- 28:35Speaker 1: I mean just wide open, yep. And so like you
- 28:41Speaker 1: gotta do a better job. They were so amped up
- 28:44Speaker 1: to try to stop to run early in the game.
- 28:46Speaker 1: The first play of the game, here comes a bootleg
- 28:49Speaker 1: with a quarterback for twenty yards. Yeah, there's some exotic
- 28:52Speaker 1: things on offense yesterday's Surprisingly, there wasn't that exotic. It's
- 28:55Speaker 1: a basic bootleg. But we were so concerned about running,
- 28:58Speaker 1: you know, tackling Derrick Henry, we forgot that. There's actually
- 29:01Speaker 1: you gotta do your job and stay in your gap
- 29:03Speaker 1: in and and follow your keys. And we didn't do
- 29:07Speaker 1: a good job of that that early. But you know,
- 29:08Speaker 1: we got some stops we got off the field. We
- 29:10Speaker 1: gotta turnover. You know, we made some things happen, but
- 29:13Speaker 1: we couldn't hold up. We just, uh, there's no other
- 29:19Speaker 1: way to say it. I mean, it's not like football,
- 29:21Speaker 1: like everyone wants these like simple answers, and they're the
- 29:24Speaker 1: simple answers is win. Like, here's how you win football games.
- 29:29Speaker 1: You have big, strong, physical guys that control the line
- 29:32Speaker 1: of scrimmage on both sides. You want to look at
- 29:36Speaker 1: the end of the day, you want you want to
- 29:38Speaker 1: look at the teams who win, They consistently win the
- 29:40Speaker 1: line of scrimmage because they have big, nasty, physical human beings. Yeah,
- 29:46Speaker 1: and then you have a quarterback that can pull the
- 29:48Speaker 1: trigger and make things happen, and you have a pretty
- 29:50Speaker 1: good chance to win. Now, it does. I'm not discounting
- 29:54Speaker 1: any other position. Obviously, having a great corner changes how
- 29:57Speaker 1: you play defense and right. But it's a big man's game.
- 29:59Speaker 1: That's where football was designed. If he played as Tom
- 30:01Speaker 1: Coughlin told us in his introductory press conference, by the way,
- 30:04Speaker 1: and we are overmatched right now. I mean, I don't
- 30:10Speaker 1: know how to say it. When you give up three
- 30:12Speaker 1: shade games a two yards. You're getting blocked, you're going
- 30:18Speaker 1: the wrong in the wrong gaps. You're not flowing to
- 30:20Speaker 1: the ball, you're not getting off tackles, you're not reacting,
- 30:23Speaker 1: you're not coming up being physical. It's a problem. Let's
- 30:29Speaker 1: come back, we'll discuss the offense. We'll delive a little
- 30:33Speaker 1: more into Nick Fole's day. This isn't the most positive
- 30:37Speaker 1: show we've had. I don't know, we're we're trending downwards.
- 30:39Speaker 1: I don't know where else. And I don't like we're
- 30:41Speaker 1: spitting the truth. Yeah, sometimes going on hurts man. Sometimes
- 30:46Speaker 1: I think it'd be better just not to. But that's
- 30:48Speaker 1: where we are. That's where we are. The Reality four
- 30:51Speaker 1: and seven with five games to go coming up, plenty
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- 34:03Speaker 1: it's one per customer. This is the tough part about
- 34:20Speaker 1: the game. This is where characters built within an organization
- 34:24Speaker 1: and a team. I mean so, like I said last week.
- 34:26Speaker 1: You either give up or you keep moving and you
- 34:28Speaker 1: keep going forward against you know, everyone's gonna be negative,
- 34:31Speaker 1: everyone's gonna ask all these questions because that's your job.
- 34:34Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not gonna sit here and be
- 34:37Speaker 1: upset about it. But then the day, my job is
- 34:39Speaker 1: to continue to keep a positive attitude within the locker
- 34:42Speaker 1: room and continue to leave these guys and I'm not
- 34:44Speaker 1: the only one leading. Um. You know, you have to
- 34:46Speaker 1: you have to go through trials to build character, and
- 34:50Speaker 1: that's what we're doing right now. It's not fun. It's
- 34:52Speaker 1: not fun to go out there and get beat like that.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Nick Foles, Jaguar's quarterback yesterday in Nashville after the fort
- 35:00Speaker 1: Who twenty lost to the Tennessee Titans. Welcome back, Jaguars,
- 35:03Speaker 1: Happy our g pie, Shadrick, Tony Vasselli. We're out to
- 35:06Speaker 1: Pete Prisco. He'll be back with us uh as soon
- 35:09Speaker 1: as we can get him and the Jags. We touched
- 35:13Speaker 1: on the offense earlier, right and Nick Foles his days
- 35:18Speaker 1: the last two times out, so before we get that.
- 35:21Speaker 1: I know the a lot of fans, or at least
- 35:27Speaker 1: through Twitter, you know, have not been overly excited about
- 35:32Speaker 1: Nick Foles comments after the game the last two weeks. Yes, man,
- 35:35Speaker 1: We'll just we just heard the ones there, and I
- 35:37Speaker 1: know Pete kind of said something. Pete said something earlier
- 35:42Speaker 1: that he thinks the comments are ridiculous they need to change.
- 35:45Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, does it matter, Like I don't
- 35:49Speaker 1: like what did he say there? That is so wrong?
- 35:54Speaker 1: And like, I know what the fans want. They wanted
- 35:56Speaker 1: to pound the fist and say, you know, I'm like,
- 35:59Speaker 1: they suck and suck and like everyone. So I mean
- 36:01Speaker 1: it's like, it's what he said is innocuous to me. Well,
- 36:08Speaker 1: I think the fans have a broader scope of building
- 36:12Speaker 1: character twelve years of building. I get that. But that's
- 36:16Speaker 1: not his problem. He hasn't been here, right, I'm just
- 36:20Speaker 1: telling you what they get that. I'm the most part
- 36:22Speaker 1: with their feeling. I'm not mad about the fans being frustrated,
- 36:25Speaker 1: you know, I mean, every right to be frustrated. Pete.
- 36:28Speaker 1: Are you back with us now? Yeah? I'm here. You
- 36:31Speaker 1: know what, I tend to agree with the fans on
- 36:33Speaker 1: that one. Nobody wants to hear that crap, Okay, I
- 36:41Speaker 1: mean maybe, I mean they just don't. Nobody wants to
- 36:43Speaker 1: hear that at this moment, what are you building too?
- 36:46Speaker 1: You know, you gotta go through the bad time to
- 36:47Speaker 1: get to the good time. They don't want to hear it.
- 36:50Speaker 1: What do they want to hear? What would you like
- 36:52Speaker 1: Nick Foles say? That's what they get come up with book.
- 36:55Speaker 1: We're not good enough right now. We're working to get better.
- 36:57Speaker 1: It's not about building a culture. And and then that's
- 37:00Speaker 1: that's just that's coach speak. That's garbage, you know that. Okay.
- 37:06Speaker 1: I mean I'm not gonna argue. I mean I don't.
- 37:08Speaker 1: I just that's who Nick like, that's who Nick is.
- 37:13Speaker 1: That that's authentic Nick Foles. I mean, that's who you're
- 37:16Speaker 1: gonna get like, that's his mindset. The fans want to
- 37:21Speaker 1: see somebody with a little more fire in the building,
- 37:24Speaker 1: Like you want to get up there and like say,
- 37:27Speaker 1: like just rip everybody and rip the offensive line and
- 37:30Speaker 1: the receivers and the defense. What do you want to
- 37:34Speaker 1: do then, Pete, just get to the don't start talking
- 37:37Speaker 1: about culture and building something. Time to get to the
- 37:40Speaker 1: good time. So nobody wants to hear that. He was
- 37:42Speaker 1: asked the question. So you just rather when they ask
- 37:44Speaker 1: the questions, say no, no comment. What was the exact question.
- 37:49Speaker 1: I don't remember Stamp. I'll get to that. You're gonna
- 37:53Speaker 1: tell him that you should. You should set up a service.
- 37:55Speaker 1: You can just tell people what to say based on
- 37:57Speaker 1: the questions are asked. You know what, that's not a
- 38:01Speaker 1: bad idea of you should be a consultant. You should
- 38:04Speaker 1: be an answer question consultant. Pete Prisco. If you want
- 38:07Speaker 1: to know what to say when you're asked a question,
- 38:09Speaker 1: Pete will tell you. Just don't give him the everything's
- 38:14Speaker 1: rosy scenario when we're building something in this I didn't
- 38:19Speaker 1: hear everything's rosy. He said, it's hard right now, we're
- 38:22Speaker 1: not good enough. We need to get better. Like what
- 38:24Speaker 1: does he want? Like that's what he said. Apparently the
- 38:28Speaker 1: question there's not a full question. The official transcript is
- 38:31Speaker 1: basically on missing a couple of big plays to his
- 38:33Speaker 1: wide receivers early in the game, and it turned into
- 38:37Speaker 1: a long answer building character. What did that mean? Well,
- 38:45Speaker 1: I think he's saying they need to be better and
- 38:46Speaker 1: it's a process. And like you either when it's going
- 38:49Speaker 1: tough and it's going the wrong way, you can sit
- 38:51Speaker 1: there and be negative and complain and everything else. Nothing's
- 38:54Speaker 1: gonna change By doing that, or you can go back
- 38:56Speaker 1: to work and be positive and keep on trying to
- 38:58Speaker 1: get better. That's why I think he's saying, like, I'm
- 39:00Speaker 1: not sure what's wrong with that. Now, if you just
- 39:03Speaker 1: want the short answer, you missed a couple of receivers. Yeah,
- 39:05Speaker 1: we missed, and we gotta make the place like that's it.
- 39:08Speaker 1: Then you guys will complain or he doesn't say enough.
- 39:10Speaker 1: And that's what he said in the first sentence of
- 39:12Speaker 1: the answer. It's part of the game sometimes where guys
- 39:15Speaker 1: making great, great catcher made and sometimes they're not. That's
- 39:18Speaker 1: why you keep firing away and keep trusting your guys.
- 39:20Speaker 1: And then they went on from there about still fighting
- 39:23Speaker 1: and doing all that. You understand where a fan was,
- 39:28Speaker 1: oh goshut crap and they don't buy it. You know
- 39:33Speaker 1: what a good culture is that. I don't blame the
- 39:37Speaker 1: fans for being frustrated. I don't at all. I never
- 39:41Speaker 1: have if there's not been I mean, I've been a
- 39:44Speaker 1: pretty big advocate for the fans, Like I get it.
- 39:47Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't blame them for being frustrated.
- 39:51Speaker 1: Let me ask you, guys this, I think I pretty frustrated. This.
- 39:53Speaker 1: I think everybody is right now. I'm Doug Marone today
- 39:56Speaker 1: on his conference call, reiterated that Nick Foles he fields,
- 40:00Speaker 1: gives the best Jaguars the best chance to win. Now,
- 40:03Speaker 1: do you guys agree with that? Pete? Um, that's to
- 40:09Speaker 1: be determined. But you paid him that money, you might,
- 40:11Speaker 1: like Tony said, you might as well find out the
- 40:13Speaker 1: next five games what you got. What's the matter now?
- 40:16Speaker 1: I mean the ship is unless support and you're standing
- 40:19Speaker 1: on the dock looking to get on, and all you
- 40:21Speaker 1: could do is fall in the order. That's about it. Well,
- 40:23Speaker 1: I mean I think it doesn't matter for the players.
- 40:25Speaker 1: It matters for the coaching staff because if and I'm
- 40:27Speaker 1: not saying this is gonna happen, I don't think it's
- 40:29Speaker 1: gonna happen. Actually, Um that if they could go win
- 40:34Speaker 1: four or five games, get to eight and eight or
- 40:36Speaker 1: nine and seven, they have a chance to say, I'm
- 40:39Speaker 1: just Pete that's used to think of you're a coach though, right,
- 40:43Speaker 1: But okay, Tony, if they go seven and nine, I
- 40:45Speaker 1: did say seven and nine. I said eight and eight
- 40:47Speaker 1: or nine and seven, So you win four or five, four,
- 40:53Speaker 1: four or five. I don't think they are I don't
- 40:56Speaker 1: think they're going to Pete. I'm just telling you the
- 40:59Speaker 1: mindset of a coach or a player, that's how you
- 41:01Speaker 1: have to think. I mean you had like otherwise. If
- 41:09Speaker 1: that's not how you think, what are you doing at
- 41:11Speaker 1: that point? Okay? But does he give him the best
- 41:14Speaker 1: shot to win? Um? That's I thought for sure. I
- 41:19Speaker 1: was a for sure Yes. Two weeks ago, I was
- 41:22Speaker 1: a yes. Uh. Last week I'm like down, like yes,
- 41:28Speaker 1: I'm like on the fence. I still would play him.
- 41:32Speaker 1: I still start him because I mean, I think you've invested,
- 41:34Speaker 1: and I want to find out what I have going
- 41:36Speaker 1: because I have a good idea what Minshew is and
- 41:38Speaker 1: what he can be. So I'm at least the next
- 41:43Speaker 1: couple of weeks stick with Foals. Can they score some
- 41:48Speaker 1: early points though? No, Well we haven't done that all year,
- 41:51Speaker 1: have we? Certainly not recently. It's been a long time.
- 41:55Speaker 1: That would help matters obviously. Well, I mean we scored
- 42:00Speaker 1: three this week, we scored seven last week, and we
- 42:05Speaker 1: scored three the week before. So in three first half
- 42:09Speaker 1: we've scored thirteen points. Pete, stop hitting your he's dialing out,
- 42:14Speaker 1: he's dialing up a pizza. Yeah, three points last week,
- 42:17Speaker 1: seven points in the first half at and the three
- 42:19Speaker 1: points in London against Houston. That's thirteen points in three games.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Yes it is. Let's talk about the first talk about
- 42:26Speaker 1: them the defense, but both games it was they were
- 42:31Speaker 1: in the game and at halftime, but they were in
- 42:35Speaker 1: the game. No, it's this is not just a defensive problem.
- 42:39Speaker 1: The defense is not very good. They can't stop the run.
- 42:43Speaker 1: It is what it is. The offense is not very good.
- 42:45Speaker 1: They don't score points. Yeah, I don't know. I just
- 42:51Speaker 1: the question is legitimate When the fans say should they
- 42:54Speaker 1: go back to Minsho, that's a legitimate question. I think
- 42:57Speaker 1: it's a fair question. I have no problem with it.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Doug made the and and fans getting upset about the
- 43:02Speaker 1: earing culture in the locker room and building to something
- 43:05Speaker 1: they have a right to get. They're upset with that too,
- 43:08Speaker 1: because look, unlike Nick Foles, we've just got here, they've
- 43:11Speaker 1: been here. The fans have every right to be upset.
- 43:15Speaker 1: I'm not saying they shouldn't. All I'm saying is what
- 43:17Speaker 1: else do you want to say? This is who Nick
- 43:19Speaker 1: Foles is. And he didn't see anything wrong. He just said,
- 43:23Speaker 1: like the stinks right now, We're not very good. We
- 43:26Speaker 1: have to get better. I am choosing to be positive
- 43:29Speaker 1: and this is how you build the locker room. That's
- 43:32Speaker 1: all he said. But then he faced something similar last
- 43:34Speaker 1: week too. Yeah, he was talking about culture last week.
- 43:36Speaker 1: This this week he was character. Yes, well we got
- 43:40Speaker 1: we got the two seeds. There has to be the
- 43:42Speaker 1: third seed. Every good speech has three seeds. Were three points?
- 43:45Speaker 1: Were culture? Character? What's the third one? I don't think that.
- 43:50Speaker 1: I don't think that. How about confidence? You know, if
- 43:53Speaker 1: you have character and you build a culture, you're gonna
- 43:55Speaker 1: have a confident locker room. There's keep talking about character,
- 43:59Speaker 1: you keep talking about culture, and you don't get better,
- 44:01Speaker 1: and you're good and your talent isn't any good, You're
- 44:03Speaker 1: gon be clappy? How about that? That could be a
- 44:05Speaker 1: C I like confident better. I will say there was
- 44:10Speaker 1: more balance in the offense yesterday. I think I think
- 44:13Speaker 1: d Philippo got the message from the head coach to
- 44:15Speaker 1: run the ball seven Russians or three those from folds,
- 44:21Speaker 1: but twenty four by four nets for ninety seven yards,
- 44:24Speaker 1: and that's being down almost the entire second half. I mean,
- 44:28Speaker 1: I think he had as many carries in the indie
- 44:31Speaker 1: game like by like the middle of the second quarter
- 44:35Speaker 1: um and I thought Letter four Nett really ran hard.
- 44:37Speaker 1: I mean, I thought he was physical, made some great
- 44:40Speaker 1: catches out of the backfield. I got nothing but respect
- 44:43Speaker 1: to how Leonard Fournette played that football game. And you
- 44:47Speaker 1: know what, he's done a pretty good job this year.
- 44:49Speaker 1: I mean, you can't can't falt them. He's been one
- 44:52Speaker 1: of the pleasant surprises of this year. I mean, but
- 44:55Speaker 1: but Pete, this is how dare I say in ft
- 44:58Speaker 1: the offense has been. We now have three rushing touchdowns
- 45:02Speaker 1: on the year, and two of them came pretty much
- 45:06Speaker 1: in garbage time. It was garbage time, not pretty much.
- 45:09Speaker 1: It was the Titans. I mean that is bad. No
- 45:13Speaker 1: matter what you said on the game broadcast, it was over.
- 45:16Speaker 1: What do you mean. We had three possessions, three touchdowns,
- 45:19Speaker 1: three two point conversions, a couple on side kicks. We
- 45:22Speaker 1: were right back in it over. Yeah, you got excited.
- 45:26Speaker 1: You got a little excited on the broadcast for the fumble. Well, yeah,
- 45:31Speaker 1: well that was that was We were still in at
- 45:33Speaker 1: that point. I think it was that was It was
- 45:38Speaker 1: still like twenty, it was three. I thought the fumble
- 45:44Speaker 1: came when it made it thirty five and they went
- 45:46Speaker 1: down and made I don't remember why. Why was Richardson
- 45:54Speaker 1: a healthy scratch Because they wanted to start Dontavius Russell
- 45:58Speaker 1: to get bigger people on the field to stop the run.
- 46:01Speaker 1: They didn't want to start him. They just want to
- 46:03Speaker 1: have him at start. They want him active so he
- 46:05Speaker 1: could be in the rotation. Confirmed that again. Here's another
- 46:10Speaker 1: question I had. Did Miles Jack get hurt for bench
- 46:14Speaker 1: hurt hurt his knee? Well, I don't know how bad.
- 46:19Speaker 1: There was no update from that. There was no update
- 46:21Speaker 1: he had. You could tell he was visibly limping, went
- 46:25Speaker 1: to the sideline, came out with a sleeve. Rick Blue
- 46:28Speaker 1: reported from the sideline had a sleeve put on his
- 46:30Speaker 1: knee or something, and you could tell that he was
- 46:33Speaker 1: favoring his right knee. Now what the injury is, we
- 46:37Speaker 1: were not told. There was no official announcement, but when
- 46:39Speaker 1: the game it was clearly over, he was taken out
- 46:43Speaker 1: and uh Donald Payne came in. But by the way,
- 46:46Speaker 1: a couple of things from yesterday. They found out that
- 46:48Speaker 1: Andrew Win guarded a special teams player only thanks. What's next?
- 46:56Speaker 1: What's the next thing? What else did you stay your captain? Captain?
- 47:01Speaker 1: Obvious is that captain obvious. Well, you didn't have to
- 47:04Speaker 1: have a backup safety before the field play, can't you? Well,
- 47:07Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna make the judgment of the kid
- 47:09Speaker 1: because of one game it was dreadful. What was the
- 47:13Speaker 1: next hold on? You're saying he was the only bad
- 47:17Speaker 1: guy who No. No. If that's the case, then there's
- 47:20Speaker 1: a lot of guys that you can say that about.
- 47:22Speaker 1: Here's the question I wanted to ask to did say
- 47:25Speaker 1: that he thought he had somebody on help and nobody
- 47:27Speaker 1: was there after the game? Kind of called somebody out.
- 47:29Speaker 1: Who'd be talking about? I don't know, but there the
- 47:32Speaker 1: quote he had alluded to, um miscommunication, miss a line,
- 47:38Speaker 1: guys missed the line before we go to break? And
- 47:42Speaker 1: if the team feels prepared entering games at this point
- 47:44Speaker 1: in the season. A J boy said this in the
- 47:46Speaker 1: locker room. I felt prepared. It just frustrates me when
- 47:49Speaker 1: you see something in practice, you know somebody is going
- 47:51Speaker 1: to be there, and then it doesn't happen in a game. Yeah,
- 47:54Speaker 1: then he moves on to other things. Yes, so let's
- 47:58Speaker 1: come back. Sounds like, so who do you think it was?
- 48:01Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to tell. Like a couple
- 48:04Speaker 1: of times. I thought, just a j just got beat
- 48:06Speaker 1: by Brown, Let's come back. We'll delve into that. We'll
- 48:09Speaker 1: look at the remaining schedule for the Jaguars as well. Okay,
- 48:13Speaker 1: we'll see if you want to lock some games. I said,
- 48:16Speaker 1: I've done lost day. I can't either, and I don't
- 48:21Speaker 1: like people have got on me and they deservedly sell
- 48:24Speaker 1: they should um I said it last week. I'll say
- 48:27Speaker 1: the same thing. If they continue to play defense and
- 48:28Speaker 1: play offense both the way they are right now, they
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- 52:05Speaker 1: the breaks we got. He's just frustrated tonight, just kind
- 52:08Speaker 1: of how it is. It's like the whole building today,
- 52:11Speaker 1: a lot of the building today losing steaks. It's not
- 52:16Speaker 1: good enough. I mean that, I mean the bottom line,
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- 52:42Speaker 1: lot of beat beating around town for lock in the
- 52:45Speaker 1: seventh straight. I'm taking beatings for everything. I mean I
- 52:49Speaker 1: get accused of. I mean, name it, I get blamed
- 52:52Speaker 1: for it. I saw some stuff coming at you on
- 52:55Speaker 1: Twitter today. Yeah, keep ringing it please, I love it.
- 53:00Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna have a great segment when you
- 53:02Speaker 1: get to those questions because because they came at you today.
- 53:06Speaker 1: I love name calling. That's the maturity levels very high.
- 53:10Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's terrible on Twitter. But I mean, look,
- 53:13Speaker 1: you understand, and I know you do because you've been
- 53:15Speaker 1: around there as long as long as the franchise has
- 53:17Speaker 1: been there. It's frustrating for the fans. They're frustrated. They
- 53:20Speaker 1: should be. I mean, I'm frustrated. I'm like, do you
- 53:24Speaker 1: not like I don't. I have not talked to one
- 53:27Speaker 1: person in this organization that is that is happy. Well, No,
- 53:33Speaker 1: everyone's frustrated, like like, the fans don't have a like
- 53:37Speaker 1: a market, have not cornered the market on frustration of losing. Like,
- 53:41Speaker 1: I think everyone is frustrated in this organization, and the
- 53:44Speaker 1: fans every right to be frustrated. But they never got
- 53:46Speaker 1: to finish my assets. We had we listed you listed
- 53:50Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I think we got to the end right, No,
- 53:53Speaker 1: we didn't. The right The right tackles an asset, very
- 53:57Speaker 1: good player, Okay, Teller is an asset. I came Rocks.
- 54:02Speaker 1: I think Cam. I think Cam Robinson. I mean you
- 54:04Speaker 1: look at left tackle. I mean he's you know, a
- 54:06Speaker 1: good young player. Um, he's improved this year. Is your
- 54:09Speaker 1: long term left tackle? I think he has an opportunity. Yeah,
- 54:12Speaker 1: he's improved. I think WARP has done a very good
- 54:14Speaker 1: job with him. Um coming off to a c L
- 54:17Speaker 1: as well, Like yeah, um, I still think lenders you
- 54:23Speaker 1: know in the you know, top half of centers in
- 54:26Speaker 1: this league. I mean Pete, you watch offensive lines. Yeah,
- 54:29Speaker 1: he's he's a solid player. He's probably not I mean again,
- 54:33Speaker 1: and I go back to the contract. He's not worth
- 54:35Speaker 1: what he's making. But he's a solid player. But he's
- 54:37Speaker 1: on your team now. But I'm saying you gotta when
- 54:40Speaker 1: you're looking at assets and liabilities, you gotta look at
- 54:43Speaker 1: what they're making and you have to also have to
- 54:45Speaker 1: find make sure you can replace him with an equal
- 54:47Speaker 1: or better player or cheaper option is just as good.
- 54:53Speaker 1: Did I not just say that it does equal, not
- 54:56Speaker 1: just as good? Are you he coal and he's cheaper,
- 55:00Speaker 1: he's better? Are you that dense? So if he's equal
- 55:04Speaker 1: and he's cheaper, he's better. Hey, what did you do
- 55:07Speaker 1: this weekend? Like? Do I mean you have a long night?
- 55:11Speaker 1: If we're equal player and he's cheaper, it's probably better
- 55:15Speaker 1: option for Let me repeat what I said. You don't
- 55:18Speaker 1: get a rid of anybody unless you can find someone
- 55:21Speaker 1: equal or better. You want to say, it's slower so
- 55:24Speaker 1: you can understand it because you just repeated what exactly
- 55:27Speaker 1: what I said. Okay, we're going through the assets, and
- 55:31Speaker 1: you're dancing around the question. I'm not answering the question.
- 55:33Speaker 1: I just answered it. How many legitimate assets is somebody
- 55:38Speaker 1: who takes over this team have on this roster? Eight? Right?
- 55:45Speaker 1: Logan Cook punters an asset? Josh, please please, When you
- 55:49Speaker 1: start talking about special teams players being an assets, you're reaching.
- 55:53Speaker 1: Okay out there, special teams players being assets. That means
- 55:57Speaker 1: we have to go to break and we'll come back
- 55:59Speaker 1: with a second an hour blocking seven straight victories right there.
- 56:07Speaker 1: I was just trying to Wow, I was trying to
- 56:09Speaker 1: find more than eight. Hey could be a pro bowler,
- 56:11Speaker 1: I'll say this. I'll give you one more real quick
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- 56:17Speaker 1: is playing good football. He's in the top ten. He
- 56:22Speaker 1: I bet you if you judge, I bet she's in
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- 1:00:06Speaker 1: what we went through to get there. Not oh man
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- 1:00:20Speaker 1: if you say the trophy is coming, that's what I
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: heard there? Is that what you heard there? Well, he
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: said the trials and the trimulations and the trophies coming.
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: I think that was an extension of the same answer
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: we had with all those assets in five years there's
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: more assets. I mean, I mean you can go through
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: like Pete, let's do the same thing like the Houston Texans.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: I mean you can do like, well, they got the
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: quarterback assets, so that kind of solves about ten of them. Okay,
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: but my point is you can go through every team
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: like the way you were describing an asset like it's
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: very narrow, is my point. But you can't really count
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: and Gogway has an asset because you don't want what
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: you're gonna do with you don't know what you're gonna
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: do with him, or he's still an asset. He's on
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: your roster. Pete, you have you can I am a
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: mega contract to keep him and make him and keep
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: continue to be an asset. By the way, you don't
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: have to sign as a franchise jack and asset. Um.
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: He has been the way he's playing as of late. No, No,
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: he has not been by the way Pro Football Focus has.
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell is the eighteenth graded gardener league, which isn't bad. Okay,
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: there's there's only sixty four of them, and he played
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: the best they had him. Rading is the best offensive line.
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Andrew nor Well has played good football
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: this year. I don't care what anyone says. He had
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: an awful play and awful play like that. Everyone wants
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: to hang their hat on in Carolina, and he makes
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: a bowload of money, so they always pick him on it. Right,
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: he's playing good football. Play good football again this I
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: thought he played well on the tape. Andrew do Well
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: is a good football player. I don't care what anyone says.
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: Let's touch on the hot topics today. Of course. The
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: run defense horrible again. Two hundred nineteen yards. That's six
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: nine nine yards allowed on the ground over the last
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: three games, Old division games, all twenty point losses. More,
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken too, the only it was actually
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: to twenty two before they took so they really have
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: given up seven two yards. Yeah, that's right, of course,
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: that's demoralizing. Giving up a hundred and fifty yards in
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: a game is demoralizing. Where do we rush? Where do
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: we rank in the NFL now on rush defense? Twenty
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: nine and they're last in the league and yards per carry?
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, like Ronald Jones has done very
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: little for the bucks. He's got to be smiling all
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: week long this week. Yeah, I mean, if you don't
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: know his name, you you might at this rate, you
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: might know it by Sunday evening. And yeah, and the
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Bucks don't give him enough cared where they do. Well,
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: the good news is, you know, Bruce arians loves throwing
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: it around the yard. Jamis will give you a couple.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: And Jamie is going to throw you a couple. Now,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: whether we catch or not, I'm not sure, but they're coming.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: They are a tony. The Bucks haven't made a decision
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: on Jamis yet, but as he gets ready to come
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: to town, I'm gonna ask you right now, who's a
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: better quarterback, Jamis or Nick Foles? Ni falls stop it.
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: He doesn't turn it over, Pete. That's you cannot do
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: that in that position. Doesn't score points either, Yeah, Jamis.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Look at the points the Bucks have scored this year.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: Look at the turnovers, Pete. You don't win, okay. What's
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: what's the Bucks record? Well, I mean the defense. You
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: talking about a bad defense? Well, look at our defense work, Pete.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: What's their record? Okay? But at least they score. What's
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: their record? They're not good? What is it? They score points?
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: What is it? What are they? And there? Four and
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: seven the exact same things. The Jaguars, Well, they store
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: points though, they're competitive and games and he threw it
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: to the wrong team and they lose. They're competitive because
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: he could throw it around the yard. They lost to
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: Seattle in overtime forty thirty four. Question, yeah, they lost
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: to the Titans. Also the Panthers thirty six on the
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: Saints and lost. Is there a tight on the tight
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: end on this roster as good as O. J. Howard?
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: He doesn't do anything. I was asking the question, is
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: there what does he do for them? He does nothing.
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: Is there a receiver as good as Mike Evans, No,
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: there's not a receiver as good as Chris Godwin either.
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: Chark isn't as good as Godwin? No he is not. Okay,
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: does that help? But their defense is pathetic and they
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: score points. Yes, he turns it over, but they score points.
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: They this team in two games with Nick Foles has
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: not scored any points. Tony is our efens good? No? Okay,
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: then why do you keep on bringing up the Bucks?
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: The problem that my point is because the point is
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: their defense thinks, just like Jacksonvill's defense thinks, And the
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: point is that they're talking. They both have the point
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: and they both have the same record. They score points,
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: but they turn it over. At least they can score points. Great, congratulations,
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: score all the points you want and have the same
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: losing record because you turn it over. They have they've
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: been more competitive in games. Rule number one. Rule number one,
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: don't turn it over. Rule number one score touchdowns. Okay,
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Pete on this, both four and seven.
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: What does it matter you lose games? Folds? I said,
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: folds right now? You know what, if we had that
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: lie detector hooked up to your body right now, it
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: will be zapping all over the place. Not true. Would
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: you take twenty eight points with two interceptions right now? Points? Two? Yeah?
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: Old day long you would how many touchdowns? Is he
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: gonna throw four like he did yesterday? Through three? Yeah?
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: But he through three picks, didn't he too? Would you
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: take twenty eight points? Four touchdowns through the air and
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: two interceptions from a Jaguars quarterback? Where where are the
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: touch that world doesn't matter? Where looking at the box
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: score at the end of the day. Where the interceptions thrown?
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: Because that matters? Because let me give up, don't forget
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: about how many? Don't forget JP you can't. How many
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: touchdown passes did Nick fole store yesterday? Zero? None? Done?
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: That's kind of my point, Pete, you're jp we got
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: him back into the corner and we're just I'm right
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: crossing him and you're left right. We're just over the top.
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: Bang Batty, he's against the ropes. He's going down like
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: Deonte Wilder. It's gonna be a knockout here soon. Oh,
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: I can tell you is you can't win games in
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: this league turning it over? Look? Should you? Is it
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: better to not turn it? Were? Absolutely? Is it better
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: to score twenty eight points than score the craft that
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: the Jaguars of the score. And you bet how many tens?
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: How many ten to seven games you're gonna win? As
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: many games you're gonna win throwing two or three picks
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: every game like Jamis does? How many picks is he
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: on the ear? And here's the thing, this is why
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: it's a dumb conversation. The conversation is idiotic because you
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: know as well as I do, you can't win with
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: either if you don't score points and if you turn
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: it over it doesn't matter. And so you're arguing for
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: a guy who is a terrible win loss record and
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: throws it to the wrong guy and more than the
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: only reason there's not ten more picks because defensive guys
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: can't catch Jamis Winston. Two touchdown passes, interception? How many?
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: Come on, Pete, are you kidding me? Twenty yards, Pete,
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: I don't care. In a league where it is no
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: one throws twenty picks anymore, nobody. He's also been sacked
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: thirty six times. I mean, come on, Pete, you're wrong here,
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: You're wrong. No. I look, he eight get picked off
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: a ton, and that's a bad thing for him. He's
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: still he still scores points. I don't care. I don't care.
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: He throws picks. And the only reason you have thirty
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: five picks because defensive guys can't catch. I've done his games.
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: Like like, you're arguing for a guy to be your
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: starting quarterback that throws twenty picks in today's NFL, which
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: is unheard of, arguing for him to be the starting
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: quarterback anywhere. I'm just proving a point that he isn't
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: any worse than the quarterback that's Jacksonville is No, he's not.
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: I know, you know wrong, you know no, you're wrong.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: You can't win turning the ball over. You can't. Who's
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: who scored a ton of points in this league so
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: far this year? The wars the Bucks And what's the
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: record of the Bucks? The defense is pathetic? Yeah, in
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: the Jaguars Bears are you you're you're honestly talking in circles? Now?
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, Pete, but both four and seven. By
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: the way, the Winston leads the league and picks he leads.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: He leads every league like college XFL, UFL, a FL, CFL, EVERYFL.
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: He leads to the wrong guy every time. Where do
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: they get scoring? JP? Pete? Who cares or no? For
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: the game? The objects of the game is to win.
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: How many points? Know? The object is to win? How
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: many points in the Patriots score yesterday? The defense? Hold on,
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: I'm asking you a question. How many points in the
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: Patriots score? How many touchdowns the top Rady throw one? No,
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: they scored. They blocked the punt to score. Oh he didn't.
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: He threw a touchdown past and to kill Harry. Okay, so, oh,
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: you're right, that's right after the punt buck punt. So
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: he threw one. How many yards he throw for Pete?
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: How many? Yeah? How many? Where? Where? Is he ranking
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: total touchdowns this year? He's playing with a generation guess what,
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: And he doesn't turn it over so he doesn't put
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: his defensive bad positions and they win. By the way
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: football games, Tampa Bay is third in the league and scoring,
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: yeah great, and they stink defensive stas Baltimore and San
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: Franz scores more than Tampa. Guys there four and seven
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: because the quarterback turns the ball over. That's why they
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: can't win four and seven. Because he turns the ball over, yes,
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: kind of four and seven because the defense is awful.
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: Then you can have him, Pete, build your team around that.
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't want to build my team
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: around him. I'm just saying I think he's just every bit,
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: if not better than fools. So you said you'd rather,
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: I'll take folds because I can win with a quarterback
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: who throws one touchdown and no interceptions. I can't win
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: with the guy who throws two, three, four or five
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: interceptions of game. Put the poll out there, Twitter, what
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: do you guys think? Come at the Celly Winston takes
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: and let me know. The last time a fan pole
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: about what quarterback to pick is is like how you're
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: supposed to build a team. I mean, honestly, Pete, that's
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: why you know what, That's why you work in the media,
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: and that's all you should do, because you honestly should
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: do nothing but right for a website, and that's what
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: you do. Winston is a lot cheaper. No he's not.
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: He's making nineteen twenty million this year, but he hasn't
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: have that big hunk of guaranteed money that somebody else
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: has got next year. He goes back to the money.
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: Don't don't be throwing that media argument. You're part of
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: the media too, No I am. But like I can
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: do other things, Pete couldn't like what. You're a broken
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: down old man like I am. Now what are you talking?
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: I got other business interests. Yeah, but once upon a
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: time you were actually a football player and a damn
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: good one. But now you're a broken down old man
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: in the media, just like me. Were different. We're on
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: the same team. Tone, No, no, I listen, listen. You
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: know what. I live by your motto when it comes
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: to the media. There might be no eye and team,
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: but there's an M and and E me. I'm the
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: same way. I don't follow the masses in the media.
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: Do I you sometimes do you're olverjam he's the great
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: you think you think? Do you think I'm the guy
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: that sits there? And let these Hall of Fame boaters
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: tell me that you were blocking him for a quarterback.
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: Now you love him again. That's when we're on the
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: same team, Pete, Now we're on the same team that
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: There's nothing, by the way, there's nothing more infuriating to
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: me than when I hear some buffoon on that whole
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: Fame committe who says that who cares, I'm already I'm
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: already mad enough. Let's not go down that path. Are
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: we preparing you for the But no, you're getting in
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: this year. So let's everybody celebrate, celebrate. Well, let's let's
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: just let's focus on the Jags right now. Is that well,
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: it's just not gonna be the celebration Tony thought it
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: was when he thought the Jaguards, we're gonna be in
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Miami two weeks it planning dinner, right, We're gonna go
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: out of the South Beach, remember that run. Whatever those
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: still on reservation, we we can go. Okay, I don't
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: think the team will be there. I think I think
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: we meet you and Pete. You know you don't think
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: they get locked the next five, Tony. As I said before,
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: I'm done in the locked business. The locks are in
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: the trash and in all serious. If they don't, if
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: they play the way they've been playing, they're not gonna
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: win any games. Let's put it this way. You'd be
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: more apt to lock them not winning another game than
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: you would be them winning the next five. Based on
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: what I've seen, Yes, yeah, me too, Let's come back.
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: He guess what you're depressed? Now? Wait till social media questions.
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: There's nothing. There's nothing that I have already seeing. You're
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: on fire on Twitter today, told me, ah, I just
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: there's some great questions. Most of the fans are amazing,
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: just amazing people. Some of them that are not goodness.
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: All right, we'll get your full thoughts on that when
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- 1:17:24Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Hell up trying to fill out, I mean
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: uh tough loss the day, I mean you can't remember
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: to put it in words. I mean a couple of
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: a police we need it. We didn't make on both
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: sides of the football. Well, like I like, I told
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: the guys, Uh, this is a step of stun for
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: all out of us. I mean, uh, you work a
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: glass off going out practice in the entire season and
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: we didn't get the results as he wanted and then
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: we needed you know. But you know you can tell
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: my spirits kind of high. And I mean it's not
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: about touchdowns like none of that. But I think, uh,
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: I can talk. I had last week my dad, you know,
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: because had a kind of prospective, you know what I mean.
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: We always could be, always could be worse. Let it
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: for that in the locker room after the Lawston Nashville yesterday,
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: be one of the best beards. No, that's positive. It's
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: a great beer. But he played well, he did, he did.
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: He might he might actually be on his way to
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. He's gonna have a chance for sure. Yeah. Sure.
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: How many yards is he ever? Now? Uh? Just under
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: a thousand. I think he's like fifty yards under a thousand,
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: nine yards, So you know, if he scores more touchdowns
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: and I think he's an automatic, Well look at this though,
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: I mean, he has four point six yards to carry
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: the area, has fifty six receptions in the year, so
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna end up with over seventy receptions
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: um and probably about yards. That's a good year. Yeah.
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: Six in the league in rushing yardage, third in the
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: league in scrimmage yards. By the way, where's he ranking
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: the A f C and rushing yards, that's you have
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: to do it four fourth in the A f C
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: and rushing yard So yeah, he's doing He's having a
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: very Guys ahead of him in rushing yards are Nick Chubb,
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs. A good players and by the way,
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: good players playing on playoff contenders, So they're gonna get
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: more play down the run. And Jacobs might not because
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: he's a rookie, but Henry will for sure. So well,
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: Chubb's not really a playoff contender. Well, they're five and
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: they're five and six, and they've got a favorable schedule
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: right coming up. Yeah, very they have the easiest schedule
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: in the NFL. And Chubb's got seven touchdowns, Henry has ten,
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: and Jacobs has seven. Nick Chubb is probably the best
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: back I've seen this year, pure um, Christian McCaffrey. Nick
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: Chubb is the best pure running back. Christie McCaffrey is
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: the best offensive non quarterback player because of what you
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: can do out of the backfield catching the ball. Nick
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: jobs is unreal. Let's get to social questions. Your favorite
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: Tony certainly pizza, good stuff, good stuff. Let's start here
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: with at no toes down. Can we change the name
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: of this show to Jaguar's Crappy Hour? What about Jaguar's
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: Slappy Hour? Either way, this team is brutal well like
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: what is bad? I'm not sure why we are getting
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: lumped in with crappy Slappy Hour, But listen, if I
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: had to choose between crappy or slappy, I'd have to
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: go with crappy hour, because if you're a slappy, it's
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: hard to be overcome that. You just might be a
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: slappy your whole wife, Like, if you're a crappy, you
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: can get better. Like Joe is slappy and so like
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: he's just like he's been slappy since I've met him.
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I've never heard anybody call me slappy.
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: But I've heard many people refer to you as slappy.
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: I haven't Maybe it must be behind my back. No,
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: right to your face, that's not true. Crappy, you can
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: get better. I have to choose crappy. I have to
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: go with one. Pete, Yeah, cradle like crappy. You don't
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: you want to go slappy? You are kind of a
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: slap so yeah, crappy means you stink. We slap means
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: that's just like you are a slap blank. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. They're Neither one of them is
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: very good, to be honest, But Crappy, we can get better, Pete,
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: we can get the stink off us. I don't think
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: helping us into this category of the team and that's
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: not fair to us. Well, you know what, Life's not fair.
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: You gotta hey, listen, we're in this together. I'll go
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: down with the ship. Let's go. I'm not going down
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: with anybody's ship because you're I'm getting a life wrap that.
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: I'm getting the hell out of it. It's like, yeah, no,
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: women and children, my ass. I'm going first. That's what
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: Pete's going. When the Titanic was going down, Pete jumps,
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: threw ladies out of the way, babies, everything, that's my life.
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: I'm going on that paying quick playing the damn violent
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: I'm getting on the boat. How about when you're like
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: in an exit row of a plane and they go, okay,
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: have a problem, You're gonna be the first one open
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: the door. You open the door and go right on out,
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: is what I'm doing. Yeah, No, I'm helping the women
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: and child are not first, Pete. That's why you're a slap.
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: That's help the women and children. I don't think you
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: would actually if I'm being really honest. Alright, Next question,
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: Next question, let's go next social question number two at
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: Duval calling. Should the Jaguars clean house in the front
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: office and coaching staff this offseason? With four first round
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: picks in the next two years, the timing feels right.
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: If so, who would be your pick for the next
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: head coach? Pete? Are you going for left witch? A
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: lot of questions here, so I know you can answer
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: the coach question. I'm gonna give you. I'll give you
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: my opinion on the first part. That is the decision
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: of Tom Coughlin. So Tom Coughlin has to start that process.
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: He's the head of the football ops. All that I mean,
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: that's I don't think he's going to be a part
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: of it. Well, but he is right now, Pete. So
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: the question is today, not tomorrow, not a week from now,
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: not five weeks now. The person asks us today, what
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: is going to happen? That is Tom Coflin will have
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: to make that decision as he evaluates the entire football
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: side of the organization is going to make that decision,
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: and Tom is gonna be a part of it. Well,
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: I know, but that's not Wait wait a second, that
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: makes no sense to me, just based on what Shan
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: has told us three years ago, based on how the
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: rest of the organization works. Shan hires the head of
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: football ops, vice president football, senior vice president of football.
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: He runs football. Hired the president, Mark Lamping, He runs
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: the bag. But they made a decision. They're gonna make
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: a decision to keep Tom and get rid of everybody else. Well,
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: that's like Tom has to come with the plan and
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: this is where we made the decision, will make the decision. Well,
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: right now, that's not how right now the decision. So
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: you're saying he can't change his mind. Oh sure, he
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: like he is, like he owns the team. But I'm saying,
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: if you look at the football operations today, it is
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: Tom Conflin's responsibility for what happens on that side of
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: the building. So before it keeps saying that, we get that,
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: but he might be part of the problem. Okay, well
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: then that but then that is the responsibility of the
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: owner to make a decision. But right now where we
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: sit today, if you're looking at football, we're talking about football,
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: and the question is asked about the football side of
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: the building, and that is gonna be Tom making that decision. Guys,
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: what like where does that until he's told he can
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: no longer make it? N When they ask clean house,
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: that's the first thing I think is top down everybody.
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: So the question no, But then that's the question. The
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: question should have read, is Tom conflan getting fired? No,
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: The question should have read in the cleaning house and
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: the answer is yes. That means everybody goes. But Pete,
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: you're you're missing it? Are No, you are because the
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: way the organization is set up, Tom Conflin makes that decision.
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: But if he's part of the problem, he's not making
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: a decision. But here, Tom, you go ahead. You hired
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: a coach that you want to hire, and then we'll
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: get rid of you and hire a new new executive
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: vice president Football Operations. No, no, Pete, that doesn't how
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: it works. Tom will come up with the plan of
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: saying this is what, this is where we are. Here's
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: the plan, fire me and everybody. What's the plan for him?
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: Where's the plan for Tom? Eat? Let me know when
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: you're done talking. Don't Actually he failed me out on
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: this one because he's way off base here, I'll tell
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: you I'm off base. This is how the organization set up.
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: Tom will come up with a plan of what he's
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: happening in football. Now Sean doesn't like the plan, Yeah,
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: obviously he's gonna saying no, that's not a plan. I
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: believe it. I think that's what was asked in the
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: question clean house. And then when we said the day
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: before you get to that point, I mean, doesn't don't
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: you give the guy who's in charge of football a
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: chance to make a get put a plan together. Not
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: when he's not. When he's not when he's perceived to
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: be and assumed to be and and is part of
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: the problem. So you're saying Tom's the problem. I'm saying
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: the whole thing is a problem. Like I love the
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: guy he's been He's a Hall of Fame coach. He
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: will go into the Hall of Fame. He's a Hall
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: of Fame man. But let's be real. This team is
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: not built to be a sustainable contender as is, and
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: ultimately that falls on Tom. Okay, fair, Okay, fine, if
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: you want to position in that way, the question is
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: what do you do? And I said it has to
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: start with what Tom's gonna do, and obviously all follow
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: on him. He's the problem. Okay, we're going round and
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: around circles. Now, Pizza, tell me what about the left
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: which they asked you about left Wich? I don't. I
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: don't think bar I think Barbone is going to be
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: a heck of a head coach in this league. I'm
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: not sure he doesn't need another year calling plays and
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: working with Bruce Matt Rule would be one of the
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: guys I would look at the head beacher failor who
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: the Jets tried to hire last year. I think he's
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: a rising profession Hey, if you want to shoot for
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: the moon, go pride Lincoln Riley away from Oklahoma. Next
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: question at Rachel f l A, why did we go
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: into this season with no depth in any position? Systemic
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: failures for over ten years Pete, Um, you can only
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: have so much depth when you don't draft well. And
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: that's the answer. Yeah, I haven't drafted well. That's why.
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: Now that that's a very broad statement. Obviously they've gotten
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: some right, but just overall, I mean, that's a general statement,
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: and we're not because to break there. Think. Okay, let's
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: be honest. This year's draft looks pretty good too. I
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: always say it's too early to make a judgment of
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: a draft after one year, especially midway through the year.
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: You can't make that judgment. Pete. You don't know that
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: look pretty good until the time you just called. You
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: just called Taylor an asset. So that's it. You saw
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: Josh Allen is an asset and there's two giants. Two
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: of the major assets on the team came in that
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: draft as of right now. I agree, Okay, I but
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: ask you a question. Sixteen was supposed to be like
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: the greatest draft ever. Let's go through the sixteen draft,
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, No, no longer here, Myles Jack, we got
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: you got assets back for him, so it's kind of
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: a wash. But go ahead, Jalen, ra I mean, Miles, Jack,
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: that's that one hasn't worked out Okay, uh In Gockway
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: was third, Yes, In Gockway worth the pick. Yeah, but
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: Okayen NFL draft, Sheldon Day, he's not even here. Go ahead,
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: defensive tackle, Tyrone Holmes, keep going. Brandon Allen quarterback, not
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: even here, starting for the Broncos. We caught him, go
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: ahead and not very good and not very good. Jonathan
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: Woodard defensive end, central arking, so don't even remember. That's it.
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: So my point is, you have one player on the roster,
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: what about the seventeen draft. But but here's my point,
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: like everyone said, like when you make judgments of of
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: the guys, we have two guys left in the roster
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: from the sixteen draft, one who's not playing well, one
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: who's a good, very good pass rusher. We'll go to
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: the seventeen draft and look at that one. You have
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: to have depth. That's why I'm going back to I
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: don't want to go through every draft because if it's
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: not in our depth, Okay, give me the Dante Feller,
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: j T J. Yeldon gone a j Can he's the starter,
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: James Sample safety, Rashad Green, wide receiver, Michael Bennett defensive tackle,
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: Sterling tight end, and Ben Koyyak tight ends. Yeah, he's so.
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: So there's your draft. There's no depth from that draft
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: at all. One you have one guy on the team.
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: We can play this game in fourteen and thirteen and
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: twelve if you want to. There there that does draft
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: for disasters, right, I mean alright, four team Blake Marks
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: is hurt, Allen Robinson's on, Brandon Linder, Aaron Colvin, Telvin
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: Smith gone, Chris Smith, Luke Bawenko, Storm Johnson. Because I mean,
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, like this is not like
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: this is not surprising if you just look at like
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: what's happened, Like that's why they go to seventeen. Go
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: to seventeen just for the stake of the argument. One
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: of the here this one a gay starter, Cam Robinson starter,
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: Smoot de dd Westbrook, depth, Blair Blair Brown gone, Jaylen
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: Myrick Marquez, William fullback. So like you have like after
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: two years. But Pete, you're right, you have to go
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: like the depth of your team is built from like
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: you know, six five, four years ago. Those are now
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: you should be your veterans on your team that are
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: making up your starters, some backup special I mean, those
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: are your guys now seventeen. That's good. I'd hope most
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: of them are here. It's only been two years, right, yes,
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: I mean you don't want to lose him after two years? Correct? Um? Well, okay,
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: what's the draft with Chark, d J Chark, Ronnie Harris
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: Jackson um quality start. That's a good pick. Go ahead,
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: keep going on, Ronnie Harrison starting to be determined. He starting,
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: but he's ahead, Will Richardson, Tanner Lee quarterback, Leon Jacob's linebacker,
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: he's a specialty player. And Logan Cook who will be
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: a pro bowler most likely. So so basically that draft.
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: They got depth out of that draft and players. Okay,
- 1:32:28Speaker 1: the problem with that draft is they drafted Brian with
- 1:32:30Speaker 1: the first round pick. That's the problem. But that I
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: mean the answer. Whoever, We'll take a break here and
- 1:32:37Speaker 1: then let's do more social media next time, next day. Yeah, okay,
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: let's do more good because you will shut up. No,
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: Pete's doing the most talking here. But that's the death answer.
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: That's why. All right, let's get to our final social
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: media question. Just because Tony wants to at son of
- 1:32:59Speaker 1: Duvall nine oh four, can we stop pretending like Folds
- 1:33:02Speaker 1: is the best quarterback on this roster. Now the offense
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: looks flashy and exciting with Minshew. Now it looks prehistoric
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: and downright boring with folds. Folds is boring an average Blah, Tony,
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: how many points did we score against the Texans? Not enough?
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: How many three? How many we score against the Saints? Six? Yeah, okay,
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: here's the garbage pun They had three points when the
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: game mattered, Tony, No, No, My point is it's no different.
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: It's insane scoring point Bain scoredy points with when they
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: played like good teams, Like like, what's the they scored?
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: They scored fifteen total points against the Texans in two games. Okay,
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: no read read out. They lost, Uh you know a
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: week one that he's lost forty to twenty six. Okay,
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: so that was I think that's the high point ahead
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: and seven of those were full Houston Texans. They lost
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: thirteen twelve, scored twelve points. But he drove him down
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: the field. Was his first start. Taking a shot at Mintshew,
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot that this misnomer, like we had
- 1:34:17Speaker 1: this high flying offense that was flashy and amazing when
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: he was the quarterback. That's not accurate. They beat the
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: Titans twenty seven on Thursday, twenty points in this day's lead,
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: big deal, mins you mania took off the win in Denver,
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: come from behind, good game, showed some grit. Lost to
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: the Panthers thirty twenty seven when McCaffrey ran for a
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: thousand seven that good points. Thirteen six Saints wins, six
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: seventeen win over the Bengals, Okay, alright, win over the Jets, okay,
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: And and actually they've been playing good defense, better defense,
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: twenty six three loss to the Texans in London. Already
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: loss to the Colts, that's, of course. So I guess
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: my point is, I don't see like there's a couple
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: of games they scored points against teams that were really
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: bad at that point. Um, I'm not saying like I
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: like mitsche I think mitche has a chance to be
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of this team. I think he'd be
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: a franchise guys. Very possible. There's a possibility of that,
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: real possibility. My whole point is saying that somehow, like
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: there's this myth that we had this flashy offense that
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: was going up and down the field with Mitschew, and
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: it's just stalled out with falls. Is there to mean
- 1:35:37Speaker 1: one quick thing? Is there a chance Minshew is the
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: starting quarterback in September of two thousand and twenty, Wow
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: Ben the night bench, the eighty million dollar man. I
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: think there is now where I do agree with the
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: text message or the social media question. It is it
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: felt more exciting because Mitch you could extend plays and
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: make off schedule plays. Folds has not shown us that,
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: and that people wanted it to be more exciting because
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: he was a six round pick, he didn't cost any money.
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: He came out of nowhere. They wanted it to be
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: more exciting. But even if it wasn't, I'm going to
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: make it out to be. I agree. But where I
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: agree with the question the social media question is the
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: off schedule plays, the scrambling making guys miss. I mean,
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: that was fun and it was and then it became
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: a little bit of alive. I'm not disagreeing because the
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: other thing we don't talk about he was leading I
- 1:36:30Speaker 1: think at one time leading the NFL and fumbles as well.
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: Because of ball security, So there's a lot like we
- 1:36:37Speaker 1: just make these blankets statements and because of perception and
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: sometimes it's not reality. Just asked any married man. But
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: the fact that you think there's a chance he could
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: be the opening day starter in two thousand and twenty
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know about your your
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: perception of full I think the reason I say that
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: because I think he's I think Minshi played pretty well,
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: especially I mean especially for a rookie, and I think
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: he has the operation. I think there's there's more room
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: for growth of Gardner Minshew because of the age and
- 1:37:12Speaker 1: his lack of experience than there is for Nick Foles,
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: just because of his experience and how long he's been
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: the league. Again, the fact that you think it's a
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: possibility considering how much they've paid to get Nick Foles,
- 1:37:25Speaker 1: tells you where you are and what you think about
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: Nick Foles. Let's come back. We'll take a look at
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: the a f C South. Well, it doesn't really matter
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: much for the Jags anymore. They've dropped three consecutive division games.
- 1:37:38Speaker 1: A look at the standings and the results this week.
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: A little later, we'll touch all the games in week
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- 1:41:05Speaker 1: go out and seven and now the seven has got
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: you in the playoffs before you know, I mean, obviously,
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: you know, we can't worry about the playoffs. You know,
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: we're losing through games, division opponents to stuff. But just
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: the mentality is that, you know, I mean, I'm gonna
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: fight at the end. So the zeros on the clock,
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: you know, and there's no games up to the fight
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: for so you know, and I know, I know my guys.
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: You know, we've got a lot of guys. We're gonna
- 1:41:24Speaker 1: keep fighting. So you know, as a bunch of just
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: sucks that flushore we are, you know, don't expect this
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: to lay down and just quit. We're gonna keep playing ball.
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: Klaas Campbell, Jaguars defensive lineman in the locker room in
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: Nashville yesterday. Jaguars Happy Hour continues j P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco,
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is thumbing through Twitter. He hasn't had enough
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: of the social questions apparently tonight. I can't get it.
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: You can't get enough. I love the people. You're a
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: people person. People. Uh, yeah, that that you are. I'm
- 1:41:55Speaker 1: a man. I'm a man of the people. I'm man
- 1:41:57Speaker 1: of the people. One quick thing. You know what's sad
- 1:42:01Speaker 1: with what's going on here is Tom's legacy in the
- 1:42:06Speaker 1: eyes of the fans is being tarnished because of this.
- 1:42:11Speaker 1: I don't like that, no, but it is um okay,
- 1:42:19Speaker 1: I think I agree. Yes, let me ask this. I'm
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: not sure. I wasn't around here when he was gone.
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: When he left here, he didn't leave on great terms.
- 1:42:32Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I mean, Pete covered the team just left.
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: You just left. But I was gone to by the way,
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: I was at Houston. But if I remember correctly, I
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: mean it was the fans that were demanding Wayne make
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: a trade, I mean a change. Correct. I was still
- 1:42:51Speaker 1: on the radio in Jacksonville. Next. What wasn't that It
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: wasn't that the issue. I mean, the fans were the
- 1:42:56Speaker 1: ones who wanted to change. The cap had gotten so
- 1:42:59Speaker 1: out of whack, remember, Yeah, And they had a number
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: of losing seasons and I think, I mean, I mean
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: Tom Toma, he had lost his way a little bit.
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: And I guess I'm bringing this up because whatever happens
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: this year and next year, whenever or maybe ten years
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: from now, hopefully whenever Tom uh is no longer in
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: the role he's in, whether it's self induced and he's
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: just ready to retire and go on, or if there's
- 1:43:28Speaker 1: a desition decision made to go in a different direction.
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: My hope is that time will heal all wounds, and
- 1:43:36Speaker 1: that's usually what happens that you know, a couple of
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: years away from it, there will be no tar, you know,
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: no tarnish legacy because people were you know, put you
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: put in perspective and you look at the whole picture
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: and you remember for hopefully you remember the good and
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: the positive and all that was done. Um, because I
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: don't want that's the last thing anyone watched. I don't
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: want that for Tom, And no it shouldn't happen either,
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: But it will and it has. But time heals those things,
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: I think, yes, yes it does. But right now the
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: wound is open and still hurts, and people are gonna
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: be angry. People are best thing about Tom. Here's the
- 1:44:13Speaker 1: other thing about Tom. In my mind. Tom Coughlan is
- 1:44:16Speaker 1: one of the great coaches this league has ever seen.
- 1:44:19Speaker 1: A Hall of Fame coach, Hall of Fame personnel hasn't
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: always been a strong student, Tony. Let's be real, and
- 1:44:26Speaker 1: I can go back and point out many, many, many,
- 1:44:30Speaker 1: many personnel decisions he made when he was coach slash
- 1:44:34Speaker 1: executive slash general manager of the entire organization, and there
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: are many of them. So, but coaching wise, there is
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: no questioning that man as a coach, a great group coach.
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: And the second part of that is, and I said
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: it earlier, there's no questioning him as a either because
- 1:44:53Speaker 1: and not that does any doesn't absolve anything that's going
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: on now. Tom Coughlan is an a plus person through
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: and through, and a lot of coaches in this league
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: you can't say that about. Let's touch on the a
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: f C. Nothing else to add. That's why I tried
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: to move on. That's right, he's very well said. I
- 1:45:14Speaker 1: just wanted to say. I mean, we were quiet. I
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: don't even think we didn't agree. It was just very
- 1:45:18Speaker 1: well said. We'll give it an amen, Amen, Amen, Let's
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: go a f C South results Thursday Night football, the
- 1:45:27Speaker 1: Texans over the Colds seventeen, DeShawn Watson through a couple
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: of touchdowns, and of course, the only other division game
- 1:45:33Speaker 1: yesterday in Nashville Jonathan Williams ran for over a hundred
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: again for the Colts. But the Texans come away with
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: a win and the division lead. Pete. Yeah, and they
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: have the best quarterback and so how would somebody asked
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: me this yesterday and when we were working, how do
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: you rank the quarterbacks in the act? Says, since we
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: know what the division looks like from ranking the teams
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: ranked the quarterbacks right now in the ANC South Watson
- 1:46:00Speaker 1: set tanney Hill falls. That's how I ranked him. And
- 1:46:05Speaker 1: somebody said, maybe the way Tannehill is playing right now,
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: he might be ahead of her set. Well, I'll say this,
- 1:46:10Speaker 1: the cult should have won that game. Let me back up.
- 1:46:14Speaker 1: The Colt said every opportunity to win that game. They
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: actually took the lead uh late mid the late third
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: quarter at a drive eleven play drive ten of them
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: were run plays. Texans get the ball, they drive down
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: and settled for a field goals set. Colts get the
- 1:46:29Speaker 1: ball back and Frank Wright throw it three straight times
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: and the three and out Texans got the ball scored
- 1:46:34Speaker 1: and the game changed at that moment. I never I
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: didn't understand why. From they were pounding the Texans, I
- 1:46:41Speaker 1: mean they were beating them pushing them off the ball.
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: I mean they were having their yet that they become
- 1:46:47Speaker 1: a rend run heavy team and then they're good at
- 1:46:50Speaker 1: that line is good man, and they got away from it.
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: And uh, I was a little bit surprised as t
- 1:46:56Speaker 1: Y wasn't himself. He wasn't by any means, and so
- 1:46:59Speaker 1: they're limited at the receiver position a little bit without
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: t Y and Paris Campbell I think because that his name,
- 1:47:04Speaker 1: the rookie as they drafted. Um, so now they lost.
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: Now they lost Ebron two for the year. What was
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: the injury there because he got hurt during the game.
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: I don't remember, So that was a little bit surprising. Um.
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: But listen the Texas one they split this year. I
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: mean the power rankings, I think go as the record
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: is right now Houston, Indie, Tennessee, Jacksonville well and Tennessee
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: plays Indie this week and then they have the Texans
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: two times. Tennessee. That's a tough team, man, and Tennessee
- 1:47:37Speaker 1: controls their destiny, even though they wouldn't shock you to
- 1:47:41Speaker 1: see them win the division, would it? No, not at all?
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: My Raybriel, there's a good job, I think, uh was it?
- 1:47:47Speaker 1: John Robinson? Their GM. Yes, that came over from Tampa.
- 1:47:51Speaker 1: There's an outstanding job. I think it's a good combination.
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: They worked well together. They build the team based on
- 1:47:55Speaker 1: what they want to do as a staff, and they're
- 1:47:59Speaker 1: a tough team. Let's come back. We'll talk to all
- 1:48:01Speaker 1: the other games in the league in Week twelve, Final
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- 1:51:31Speaker 1: Our j P shattered Tony was Sally Pete prescoll. We
- 1:51:34Speaker 1: really should do that in commercial podcasts Uncensored. No, we
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: talked about it every week. I don't think we should,
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: especially this week. This will be a good episode this week.
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be smart. Why is he? Is
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: he uh lit tonight? He's crying about us teaming up
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: on him tonight? No, well that's not accurate. You were
- 1:51:54Speaker 1: I was not crying, giant. First of all, if you
- 1:52:01Speaker 1: believe that I got some swamp land, I can sell you. Um.
- 1:52:06Speaker 1: JP is a liar and we now have that confirmed
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: that he is uh misleading the people. How do you
- 1:52:13Speaker 1: have that confirmed? What are you talking about? I've confirmed?
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: Oh you you are the sword he made himself the
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: source of his own story. Can't you do that, Pete? Journalism?
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: Oh you need to get another source that I heard.
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: Nowadays you're able to do. That's a new standard. No, nowadays,
- 1:52:31Speaker 1: don't even do any sources. Just say it. That's my point.
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: Let's go around the games. In Week twelve league, the
- 1:52:39Speaker 1: Bucketeers over the Falcons thirty two Jamis and the Bucks
- 1:52:45Speaker 1: with a wind Pete, Yeah, died. The Falcons were the
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: story though for me in this game they looked like
- 1:52:51Speaker 1: they had righted things after the last two weeks, and
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: they went back to being miserable again, and no sacks
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: after getting bunches of them the last two weeks. So
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: Winston holds the ball forever? What's that? And I said,
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: and Winston holds the ball forever. He does hold the
- 1:53:08Speaker 1: ball forever, But he also threw for three thirty and
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: three touchdowns and two interceptions. Would you take three thirty
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: and three touchdowns right? Two interceptions and two interceptions? Would
- 1:53:18Speaker 1: you take that? JP? Don't be he would take it.
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: That's why he's not answering. That's not I don't believe
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: you play football planning on turning the ball over. It
- 1:53:29Speaker 1: doesn't work. So you're planning on it. You never plan
- 1:53:33Speaker 1: You have to give the two picks with them. They
- 1:53:35Speaker 1: come along and trust me, show me the last time
- 1:53:37Speaker 1: Jamis did not throw a pick in the game. Probably
- 1:53:39Speaker 1: been a while. I can look that up. By the way,
- 1:53:42Speaker 1: the Bills over. The last time somebody in Jacksonville threw
- 1:53:45Speaker 1: four touchdown passes in I can't remember. It's been a while.
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: The Bills over the Broncos. Frank Gore becomes a third
- 1:53:54Speaker 1: all time leading rusher, surpassing Barry Sanders, trialing only Emmett
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: and Walter Payton. He's in the past Walter Payton most likely.
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: I mean, what is the A few hundred yards left? Yeah,
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: and it's it's a testament to his longevity. I mean,
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: think about this for a second and got toward two
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: a c ls in college. No, he's remarkable. He's a
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: and he's not slowing I mean, I guess he's slowing down,
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: but his yards for attampt is still good. Okay, this
- 1:54:18Speaker 1: is gonna be sound like I'm a homewer. As good
- 1:54:21Speaker 1: as he is and as Hall of Fame worthy as
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: he is, he wanted better running back in fred Taylor.
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: I take Freddy t By the way, the last special,
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: last interception free game for Jamis was at Seattle on
- 1:54:34Speaker 1: the third of November. Wow, I stand correct too. He
- 1:54:39Speaker 1: was passing and they lost. Tony would take that though.
- 1:54:48Speaker 1: Throws Bears over the Giants nineteen fourteen, struggle to get
- 1:54:53Speaker 1: points in that game. You're talking about that game Steelers
- 1:54:59Speaker 1: over the Angles sixteen. Tin Hodges new quarterback man, and
- 1:55:03Speaker 1: they might slide into this thing Mason Rudolph out Ruda, Uh,
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: the Duck Dynasty whatever his name is, Devil Hodges Hodges
- 1:55:14Speaker 1: in and uh and said that war this week with
- 1:55:19Speaker 1: the Browns, the rematch. I can't wait to see it.
- 1:55:21Speaker 1: They're six and five and they have an easy record
- 1:55:26Speaker 1: to schedule coming up. He's schedule coming up. I mean
- 1:55:29Speaker 1: they testament to uh, Mike Tomlin, I mean what a job.
- 1:55:35Speaker 1: I mean, they have injuries, lost guys. They think about
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: that they played yesterday. They're played a bad team, but
- 1:55:41Speaker 1: they played yesterday without Smith, Schuster, Connor Roethlisberger. I mean,
- 1:55:45Speaker 1: thank you, hold and on it goes. Yeah, they also
- 1:55:50Speaker 1: played the Bengals yesterday. But still you're still winning games
- 1:55:53Speaker 1: you're supposed to win. Are the Bengals gonna go winless,
- 1:55:58Speaker 1: they're going back to Dalton. Now, did you see that
- 1:56:03Speaker 1: the Browns over the Dolphins. The brains of Mayfield actually
- 1:56:08Speaker 1: looked good. But he's playing a Dolphins, so it's like
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: a seven on seven game practice. The Brown's gonna make
- 1:56:14Speaker 1: a run here. Pete, Well, the loser of this week's
- 1:56:17Speaker 1: game between the Steelers and Browns is out elimination game.
- 1:56:22Speaker 1: According to Pete Prisco Saints over the Panthers. Late second
- 1:56:25Speaker 1: or last second field goal for the Saints, got it
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: done Panthers, mr field goal Panthers for the Saints. By
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: the way, it's a bunch of feld. The Panthers missed
- 1:56:33Speaker 1: a chip shot amongst other field goals, but the chip
- 1:56:36Speaker 1: shot was like a twenty nine yard to take the lead.
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: And at that point, worst case scenario, they go to overtime,
- 1:56:43Speaker 1: right and and Tony. But here's what. In the last
- 1:56:46Speaker 1: two of the last three games, the Saints lost to
- 1:56:48Speaker 1: the Falcons by getting whipped physically on both lines. And
- 1:56:53Speaker 1: now they almost lost or should have lost the Panthers
- 1:56:56Speaker 1: by giving up thirty one or it should have been
- 1:56:59Speaker 1: thirty four. Not a good look for a team that
- 1:57:02Speaker 1: at one point we thought was in the conversation to
- 1:57:04Speaker 1: be the best team in the league. Yeah, that's fair,
- 1:57:06Speaker 1: But I think the Panthers are better than people give
- 1:57:08Speaker 1: them credit for. Not defensively, they're not fair. Jets over
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: the Raiders three shocker of the weekend World happen. I
- 1:57:18Speaker 1: think I was one of my best picks of the week.
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: The rest of them stunt, But I thought the Jets
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: would win that game. Not that, not by no. I
- 1:57:26Speaker 1: thought Derrick car would throw some passes and hit some
- 1:57:28Speaker 1: passes as well. It's a perfect storm. Got a West
- 1:57:31Speaker 1: Coast team going east, playing an early start against a
- 1:57:34Speaker 1: team that's playing much better. And then, oh, by the way,
- 1:57:37Speaker 1: next week, the Raiders played the Chiefs in the rivalry
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: game for the division. So how did how did? How
- 1:57:42Speaker 1: did Sam Donald book? Much better? He's getting better and better.
- 1:57:46Speaker 1: Let's get through the rest of these quickly. Seahawks over
- 1:57:48Speaker 1: the Eagles seventeen nine, the Redskins beat the Lions nineteen sixteen,
- 1:57:52Speaker 1: the Patriots somehow beat the Cowboys thirteen to nine, and
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: the forty Niners flex some muscles in a thirty seven
- 1:57:59Speaker 1: and eight over the Packers. The Packers are nowhere near
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC, right now, right now,
- 1:58:06Speaker 1: the best team by far, it's the It is the
- 1:58:08Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. They're the best team in the
- 1:58:10Speaker 1: NFC is just stop denying it. It's the truth, Baby football.
- 1:58:16Speaker 1: The MVP front runner Lamar Jackson brings the eight and
- 1:58:19Speaker 1: to Baltimore Ravens to Los Angeles to face the six
- 1:58:22Speaker 1: and four Rams, including three former Jaguar's first round draft picks.
- 1:58:26Speaker 1: Huge ball game at the l A Coliseum. Who you
- 1:58:29Speaker 1: got tonight? I like the Ravens. I think the Ravens
- 1:58:31Speaker 1: are the best team in the a f c UH
- 1:58:34Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna and they play really
- 1:58:36Speaker 1: good defense, opportunistic defense. The offensive line for the Rams
- 1:58:41Speaker 1: is not very good, and I don't think I don't
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: think the Rams are gonna slow down Lamar Jackson. I
- 1:58:46Speaker 1: think he has a big night in l A. I
- 1:58:49Speaker 1: disagree with you. I think the Rams are gonna win
- 1:58:51Speaker 1: that game, and I think Wade Phillips is gonna come
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: up with the perfect game plan to slow down Lamar
- 1:58:56Speaker 1: jack What is that beat? Have a great week. We'll
- 1:59:05Speaker 1: talk to you next time. And Happy Thanksgiving, Thanks Peter.
- 1:59:08Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to you guys too. Yeah, Pete Prisco CPS
- 1:59:12Speaker 1: sports scene writer. Happy Thanksgiving to you and do you.
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: I'll be in Atlanta doing the game on Thanksgiving, so
- 1:59:16Speaker 1: have a Turkey leg for me. We'll do it, Tony,
- 1:59:20Speaker 1: but sell your entire crew. I'm JP Shatrick. We'll see
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