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#275: Detention (2011) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Yes, I'd like to start off by saying this girl's argument is
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  ridiculous. Vegetarians who eat fish are
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  hypocrites. She thinks because fish feel no
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  pain, they don't value their lives.
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  Absurd. And notice how she expresses
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  almost no sympathy for chickens. That's because Americans hate
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  chickens. For example, KFC serves popcorn
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  chicken to assure that their customers that the chicken was
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  blown to bits. Yet the meatball sub at Subway
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  isn't called popcorn cow. Americans want chickens to die.
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  Lame. Personally, I do feel sympathy
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  for animals, which is why I choose to only eat baby animals.
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  They've not lived as long and they are not leaving as much
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  behind. Baby clams, chicken wings, baby
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  seals, no big loss. If we don't eat meat, we lose
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  our place in the food chain. Eating animals gives us
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  confidence as humans. Welcome to us your least famous
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  game. Maybe the podcast where we talk
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  about the good, the bad, the ugly, Emmy Yup, start and all of
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  our. Favorite and we's favorite scary
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  movies because we believe every horror movie rightfully has its
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  fan base. Even if we don't always get it.
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  My name is Travis. My name is Jesse, and if you can
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  tell from that opening speech, we are talking about the
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  tension. Yeah, that's a legendary speech.
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  Yeah, as the resident vegan, it felt like the appropriate quote
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  for me to go with. He tore you all down.
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  In that moment. I was like.
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  Wow you were side eyeing me the whole time and when I got to
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  when I got to KFC exploding chicken you like lost it.
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  Yeah, well, I mean, I think he has a great point with it being
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  popcorn beef or popcorn cow. Popcorn Cow.
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  That's that's a great point man, never considered that.
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  So we're back for prom month, Yeah.
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  And this time our prom is at Grizzly Lake High School, so
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  very excited about that. I don't have any other
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  announcements right now. I think we're just ready to go
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  to poll. Results.
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  Yeah. Poll results.
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  Poll results. Well, this is an easy one for
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  me. So we did the Prom Night 3 poll
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  for last week's movie, and you know, if you listen to the
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  episode, you know that there's a lot of ghost fucking that goes
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  on in that. And you'll note that your two
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  hosts have very different opinions on ghost fucking.
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  Uh huh. So we took to everybody else and
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  asked should you fuck the ghost and my.
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  Options are don't folk, don't folk, don't fuck the ghost, or
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  always fuck the ghost. And we had 100% always fuck the
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  ghosts. Y'all are dirty birdies.
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  There was a lot of people too, and I appreciate the backup on
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  that one right there. Always.
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  Fuck the ghosts. Everybody's.
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  Everybody's fucking them. OK, well, dirty birdies, I'm
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  gonna go ahead and talk about detention now.
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  Because I don't have anything else to say.
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  Yeah, there's something else to add to that.
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  I mean, we talked plenty about it last week, so if you want
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  more, go, but after this one. OK, so Detention premiered on
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  March 13th, 2011 at the South by Southwest Film Festival.
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  It had a limited release in the US on April 6th, 2012.
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  We watched it on Tubi, but right now you can also rent it from
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  Prime Google Player Fandango at home.
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  Written by Joseph Kahn and Mark Palermo.
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  Directed by Joseph Kahn, original music by Charles
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  Bernstein, Brain Mancha, who is a who's been a drummer in a lot
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  of different groups, most notably Primus and Guns and
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  Roses and Melissa Reese. Special effects supervisor was
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  Robert Giddens and the prosthetics supervisor was Megan
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  Brown. Starring Josh Hutcherson as
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  Clapton Davis, Shanley Caswell as Riley Jones, Spencer Locke as
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  Ione Parker Bagley as Billy Nolan and AD Johnson as Sander
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  Sanderson. Travis, time for our favorite
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  game. Budget or bug?
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  Ted. This movie had to have a budget
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  because they did a lot of shit. They had a lot.
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  It's a very effects heavy movie. I think it's budget.
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  Just barely, OK, And I'll talk more about that here in a
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  minute. But the budget is roughly $10
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  million. Nice right there.
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  And because of the limited release, how it mostly just went
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  straight to DVD. I don't have box office
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  information, OK. Unfortunately.
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  Yeah, it does have an IMDb score of 5.6 out of 10.
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  OK, I pulled 3 movies from 2011 and they all have have to do
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  with the different elements of detention.
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  Nice. OK, cool.
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  So the first one is Final Destination 5, which we find out
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  near the end is actually taking place in the 90s.
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  Yeah, wow. Good good spoiler for anybody
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  that's not watch that movie. Yeah, spoiler for anybody who's
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  14 years behind on the Final Destination franchise, you are
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  not ready for Bloodlines. Yeah, OK, so Final Destination
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  5, released August 12th, 2011, had a budget of $40 million and
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  a worldwide gross of 157 million dollars. 5.9 out of 10 on IMDb.
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  Only 5.9 I know. That's a really good one, man.
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  I agree. I agree.
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  I really like it. It's got the gymnastics stuff.
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  Yeah, it's. Really gnarly, the whole like
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  the bridge thing. That's already a fear anyway.
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  The Bridge 1 is good. That's a that's a good one.
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  I like how they brought it full circle too.
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  I mean, it's a really smart movie.
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  I think that they did a good job and I don't think I'm being
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  biased on that one either. I think like I see generally a
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  lot of people talk good about that one.
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  I am being biased, but in this case my opinion is right, so
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  yeah, you're right. OK, second movie, Apollo 18.
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  Cuz we do. Have aliens.
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  Oh yeah, man, that's a man, I think.
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  That's a weird one. That's a movie that I think I've
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  watched 2 times but I don't remember any of.
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  It yeah, both times we watched it like it just gets so weird so
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  fast that we're like. I don't know what happens man.
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  I'm like I'm mentally check out or something or something
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  happens. I think you go.
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  I think you retreat to a deep place within yourself.
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  Yeah, I believe the aliens are spreading like.
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  My, my brain's trying to protect me, yeah.
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  That released September 2nd, 2011.
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  A budget of $5,000,000, a worldwide gross of $26 million,
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  and an IMDb score of 5.2 out of 10.
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  OK, not bad. Now, this last one's a little
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  bit of a stretch. OK.
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  So in the movie Detention, Billy Nolan is a flyboy.
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  And I don't mean like he's fly like he's like Jeff Goldblum.
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  He's part. Flyboy.
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  So the third movie from 2011 that I picked is The Human
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  Centipede 2. Yeah, that's a stretch.
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  But oh, wow, that, that's not bad.
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  That's not bad. That released in November 2011.
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  I obviously don't have a budget for that.
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  There's a gross of $170,000 plus the movie itself.
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  It is gross, so gross, man, that's I've never, I have not
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  finished that movie. It has a 3.8 out of 10 on IMDb.
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  3.8 yeah, OK, I I can't speak on it 'cause I'm not seeing the
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  full thing, but I it's pretty, yeah.
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  All I've the only thing I've ever seen from any of the Human
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  Centipede movies is like the beginning part of that with you,
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  and then you're like, I'm not like we haven't been together
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  long enough. For we just started dating.
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  That was a terrible decision. I that was that was so stupid on
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  my part. I didn't know it was gonna get
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  that bad, though. I watched the first one and the
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  first one you think is gonna be horrible, but it's not that bad.
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  And then you go like straight off the rails and too, I'm like
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  what the fuck? So that's my that's my entire
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  experience with Human Centipede. Do or the.
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  Whole you've not even seen the first one.
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  No. Wow, OK, first one's not that
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  bad. OK, I've got 1 tagline.
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  Only one just one. OK, cancel your future.
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  OK, that's not too bad. I mean man, like this one would
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  be a hard one to win tagline on. It's hard to even land on a
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  title for this movie. I think Yeah, cuz it's so much
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  so many things, so many places. Yeah, OK.
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  So principal photography took place in LA from August to
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  October 2010. And Joseph Kahn largely funded
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  this by himself. So I learned this in an
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  interview with Joseph Kahn on Flexible Head.
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  That's the name of a blog. So it took three years for him
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  and Mark Palermo to write the script.
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  And it obviously, I mean, you know, things change along the
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  way. And he he wasn't feeling it when
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  he first started, but it turned into something that he
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  absolutely loved and exactly what he wanted it to be to buy.
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  Three years to write it. Wow.
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  They could not find a studio to buy it.
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  Like no studio wanted to buy it. So basically what he was doing
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  was he was utilizing his contacts in the music video and
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  commercial shooting industry. Oh, OK.
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  So that's what a lot of the crew was.
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  And he said it kind of worked out really well for him because
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  he wouldn't have been able to use the crew that he knew and
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  trusted and stuff. It'd have been with the studio
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  because they would have had to pick studio approved guys.
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  Yeah, but he did run out of money in the first week and
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  basically was having to fund it week by week as he went.
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  So. How the fuck did this guy get
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  axed access to that kind of money then $10 million out of
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  his own pocket? Dude seems like he is fantastic
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  at networking. He said every dollar that went
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  into that is money he owes. Really.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So he considers his directorial style to be structural.
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  So he's really focused on rhythm and tempo.
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  And again, this becomes this is because he comes from a music
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  video. It's very snappy.
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  Yeah. And another one little fun final
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  fact that I think you'll find interesting.
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  So at the end they at the prom they do a cover of Mbop, which
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  was done by the music team that I mentioned at the beginning,
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  but the guitar player on that was actually Buckethead.
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  That was Buckethead, Yeah. Did he have a bucket on his
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  head? I don't know.
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  I don't know if he was like on the screen or not, but in the
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  like cover, really. That's him playing guitar, Yeah.
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  Man, I forgot all about Buckethead.
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  You. Every time Buckethead is
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  mentioned, you say that. Well, I always do.
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  Who? Who remembers Buckethead?
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  Truly, nobody, except for Buckethead.
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  So yeah, that's those are my fun facts.
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  Not good. I think we're ready to probably
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  talk about good, bad, good, bad, ugly, absurd.
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  Thank you. OK.
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  Well, I kick it off since you did all that.
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  OK, so one of the things about this movie that I think has
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  going for it is its style. I think it makes a lot of sense
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  with you say in the music video background.
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  Yeah, because it's it's shot in a unique way and the overall
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  presentation is just unique. There's not a lot of movies that
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  have a feel like this, but it it's like it's like fast, like
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  the pacing is just like fucking off the rails the entire time.
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  It doesn't even slow down ever. It's got some pretty good humor
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  moments. Like some of it sticks with me.
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  I like the debate. That was hilarious.
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  I really wanted to find what's her name?
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  Allison Taylor. Taylor Taylor Fisher, whatever
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  Taylor is part of her name. Yeah, I really wanted to find
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  her opening bit to do as our. Open.
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  Well, that would have been good too.
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  Written online anywhere that I can find.
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  You know, honestly I'm glad that they killed her off right away
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  cuz she would have been a hard one to fall for an entire.
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  Movie. Yeah, I.
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  Don't think I could have handled that for an entire hour and a
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  half. I think the cast is really good.
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  They got some good people here. They got Josh Hutcherson before
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  he blew up. I think this is like before
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  Hunger Games really took off, right?
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  The year I feel like the first Hunger Games, I think came out
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  in 2012. Yeah, that took off while we
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  were in college. I remember that because I
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  remember my roommates girlfriend was like close friends with
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  Jennifer Lawrence. Wild.
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  Yeah, cuz she was from Louisville.
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  Yeah, she's. From Louisville.
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  So is Josh Hutcherson. He's from Kentucky as well.
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  Yeah. And I just wanna say it for
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  anybody who hasn't watched the Hulu original show, Future Man
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  is starring Josh Hutcherson is an excellent show.
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  If you like Josh Hutcherson, you like time travel, you like
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  sci-fi shit, watch Future Man. I need to finish that.
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  Yeah, I need to. You really do.
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  You need to start over. You can't.
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  Just, I know, yeah, that's one of those ones where you restart
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  the entire thing. So yeah, good cast.
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  I think that they're all really good performances from
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  everybody, too. I like the Cinderella character.
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  Yeah. I'm sad that we don't get a lot
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  of it. Though I would so fucking watch
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  Cinderella 3. Dude, I want to watch those
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  movies. Those movies within the movies
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  were awesome. I love those really good.
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  And again, with the music background, I think that they
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  did a solid soundtrack for this. I think that person had similar
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  tastes to me in that era. Yes.
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  Like it was just banger after banger.
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  I felt like I was like, I'm not mad about a single needle drop
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  in this. Whole thing?
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  No, no, this is a movie that's full of them.
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  Yeah. OK, that's my good stuff.
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  What about you? I get that the style is a lot.
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  It's very quirky and maximalist, but I myself am quirky and
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  maximalist. You sound exactly like Lydian.
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  Beetlejuice. I felt myself saying that.
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  As I was saying, I was like, well, it is what it is.
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  If I'm gonna be Winona writer, that's fine.
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  Take a whiff. Lick it up baby, just all the
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  Winona. Anyway, I explained this movie
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  to one of our friends last night as Scott Pilgrim meets Diablo
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  Cody meets John Dies at the end. I'm glad that you also had the
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  Scott Pilgrim thought, because I had that as well.
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  Yeah, it's like with like some of the stylistic choices and the
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  needle drops again. I just, I feel like they were
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  reminiscent of that. A lot of the dialogue, like it's
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  not exactly Diablo Cody because I don't think anybody could
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  really like, emulate her 100%. But it is like the snappy, like
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  way more witty and irreverent than a typical teen would be.
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  And then obviously with all the time travel stuff, it's got that
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  element of John Dyes at the end. Yeah, that's another one that
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  that, that's one that we watched a long time ago too.
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  So yeah, I think that it's just, I think it's a lot of fun.
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  It's you have to just take it as it comes at you.
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  And even like taking notes was kind of difficult because I was
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  like, there's so much to absorb on the screen.
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  And it really, you know, sometimes we talk about their
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  movies that you're shocked at how much time is left.
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  And this is 1 where it just kind of flies by.
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  I don't know, man, the entire time when we would pause to feed
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  the pets and stuff, I'm like, damn, there's still this much
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  movie left. I think we had the reverse of
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  prom night. Yeah, I guess so.
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  Us here like, damn, yeah, there's just so much that
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  happens. Yeah, okay, so what's your bad?
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  OK, so I guess kind of going into that Scott Pilgrim thing
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  that that's not necessarily a good thing for me.
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  I feel like this person tries to emulate other people's style is
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  hard. But The thing is he's emulating
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  people that have their own distinct style that nobody else
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  can do. You can't do Edgar Wright, you
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  can't do Edgar Wright can only do that Diablo Cody can only do
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  Diablo Cody. So when you are trying to
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  emulate that style, it comes off as like, it's it.
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  To me it felt obvious that, well, I don't know if he was
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  actually going for it, but if he was like, I mean, it felt like
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  it was an obvious attempt, I think.
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  And I think this is only like his second movie if I was
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  reading everything correctly. So it might be an element of he
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  is like experimenting with style and trying to find something.
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  He likes this better than he likes Twerk.
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  Twerk was his first movie. OK.
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  Yeah, I mean like. I think that this actually made
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  a little jab at Twerk at one point in the movie too.
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  Well, he makes a jab at himself too, talking about music, video
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  editing, stuff like that. So I think, I don't know, I
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  think that comes into play here too.
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  This this movie is just there. OK, so like I said that the
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  jokes I but there's some good jokes.
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  But the bad part about that is it's because there are so many
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  jokes. Everyone is joke, joke, joke,
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  joke, joke, joke. There's like no time to breathe.
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  And Speaking of that, there's like nobody ever stops talking
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  for a single second in this movie.
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  When one person finishes their sentence, it immediately cuts to
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  another person talking. There's no like breath of air
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  there for somebody to like, you know, just like take it all in.
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  It just goes the entire fucking time.
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  The other bits of the humor though, too, it also kind of
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  reminded me of that 2000s or like late 2000s random type
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  humor where we got these like little side things like the bear
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  going on like a spaceship. And the fly thing was just like,
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  none of this stuff was really. If we however, if we didn't have
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  the fly thing, we wouldn't have gotten the Richard Brake cameo.
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  That's the only redeeming part of that.
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  It just, it didn't feel like it really was necessary.
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  It just bloated the movie with all kinds of random shit that
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  didn't even need to happen. I guess also some elements of
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  like Tim and Eric, like we're just gonna throw this random
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  thing in here. Hey, here's another thing.
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  Tim and Eric, nobody else can do Tim and Eric except for them.
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  When you see people try to do Tim and Eric it's the most
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  cringe worthy shit because nobody can nail it.
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  Yeah, and then at the same time you go and watch Tim and Eric's
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  $100 million movie or whatever the fuck it is it's called.
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  That movie never gets old for. Me.
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  That movie's good. Yeah, they actually turn that
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  into like a movie format. Yeah, yeah.
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  No, I think I agree with you. It is.
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  It just, it keeps coming at you. And so while there's a lot to
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  enjoy, yeah, you don't get that breathing room.
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  And I think we talk a lot about how in both horror and comedy,
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  you've got to have the peaks and valleys so things can hit just
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  right. Well, you got to like time
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  everything. And if there's like no timing,
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  it's just like. But but but but but but but.
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  Like the entire time, it's just like it's, it's overwhelming.
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  Yeah. And I think maybe like if we
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  had, OK, so Billy has a random like he's a flyboy, I think that
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  would have been a lot funnier if he'd just said like, I've got
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  fly DNA and left it at that. And we're like sitting here
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  going what the fuck? I think in some ways it would be
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  funnier not having it explained. Yeah, I think so too.
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  But I get that they want to have that element of like, OK, yeah,
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  aliens have been consistently, like, coming to this planet.
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  But the aliens didn't even really matter.
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  Yeah, that's not what the movie was ultimately about.
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  It's a gag at the very end of the movie that the Canadian is
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  an alien and the aliens are taking over.
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  Happens in the final five seconds of the movie, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. No, I I think I agree with you.
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  OK, one of those friends. What is your ugly then?
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  Sander being a sex pest. Oh my God.
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  Yeah, that dude is relentless. Him and young Principal Verge.
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  Yeah, both of them, man. Yeah, like, oh, OK, so this girl
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  doesn't want to fuck me. I'm just gonna blow up the whole
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  school OK? I've seen a lot of shit online
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  about this so-called male loneliness epidemic.
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  No that's just you having bad social skills and not seeing
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  women as people. That's not if you are lonely.
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  Figure out what the like. It is not up to women to make
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  men feel valuable and loved. The same way it's not up to a
• 19:15
  man to make a woman feel valuable and loved.
• 19:18
  Like, if you want to have a relationship that gives you that
• 19:23
  sense of fulfillment, you have to develop that relationship
• 19:26
  with another human being. You can't just go she's hot and
• 19:29
  I want to fuck her, and if she doesn't then that's the entire
• 19:32
  world's problem. Yeah, they man, it's, it's a
• 19:36
  kind of, it's a pretty sad thing.
• 19:37
  I, I feel genuinely bad for those people.
• 19:39
  Like, I don't, I'm not like, I don't have sympathy for how they
• 19:43
  behave because they're pretty terrible people, but they're
• 19:46
  influenced by like, this whole manosphere thing that's going on
• 19:49
  right now. And a lot of that encourages the
• 19:51
  objectification of women. And they're just like, like the
• 19:54
  younger kids that are having to like, go through this.
• 19:57
  Yeah. It's just, it sucks.
• 19:59
  I have sympathy for the for the socially awkward people who are
• 20:02
  being influenced by the wrong people, but if it pushes you to
• 20:05
  a point where you start to see everybody else's the problem and
• 20:09
  you don't do any work on yourself, that's where you're
• 20:12
  losing. I I knew a guy exactly like this
• 20:14
  whenever I was growing up and he always like blamed women and
• 20:17
  like dude. If everywhere you go smells like
• 20:21
  shit, yeah. At the bottom of your own shoe,
• 20:23
  you know. He's one of those guys that had
• 20:25
  the question going women only like assholes.
• 20:27
  Like dude, you're so fucking stupid.
• 20:29
  I mean, what can I say though? I am an asshole, but you know,
• 20:33
  that's just like a it's just a perchance type.
• 20:35
  Of thing, it's just a coincidence, yeah.
• 20:38
  You know, OK, was that you're also ugly or did you have
• 20:43
  anything else? Yes I I I do think I agree with
• 20:46
  that. Also, Bop Riley wearing her
• 20:54
  So-called Life costume for what seems to be 3 days in a row for.
• 20:58
  Yeah. Yeah, like.
• 20:59
  She wonders why she's not popular.
• 21:00
  She's blaming it on everybody else.
• 21:01
  She's blaming it on Clapton. But take a shower, girl.
• 21:05
  Yeah. Stink.
• 21:06
  Yeah, she wears it to the party. It's like I implied to be on
• 21:09
  Thursday because she's brought into the principal's office
• 21:12
  hungover, which would be the next day.
• 21:14
  And he says you have Saturday detention all day tomorrow, and
• 21:17
  she's still wearing it at fucking detention.
• 21:20
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, this movie's weird.
• 21:23
  Yeah, Oh, I forgot about The Breakfast Club motifs there as
• 21:27
  well. And they even do like an homage
• 21:29
  to that, like the essay they have to write.
• 21:32
  In the detention, yeah. So I forgot that's another
• 21:35
  element of blending into this movie too.
• 21:38
  OK. Absurd.
• 21:41
  Well, Speaking of detention, the fact that this movie is called
• 21:44
  detention and we only get detention for like 20, no, 15
• 21:48
  minutes, Yeah, in the final 30 minutes of the movie.
• 21:51
  And half of that is like detention through the decades.
• 21:54
  It's very much like Jason Takes Manhattan where we don't get
• 21:59
  Manhattan until the end of the movie.
• 22:01
  Like what the fuck? Although I did read that that
• 22:03
  was the most expensive shot was like the circular shot with the
• 22:06
  like going backwards through time with the different like.
• 22:11
  So maybe that's what he was like.
• 22:13
  This is where all of my personal finance.
• 22:16
  Is why I'm calling it detention. I'm.
• 22:17
  Calling it detention, it's. So fucking.
• 22:20
  Expensive. I need everybody to know that I
• 22:22
  paid the most for this scene. Interesting.
• 22:26
  I wonder. That's crazy that of all the
• 22:28
  things that they do in this movie, that was the most
• 22:29
  expensive. Did I have anything else then?
• 22:34
  Yeah, the Cinderella films, which were like whenever we
• 22:39
  start to watch like the word Prince in detention.
• 22:41
  Yeah, the 4th 1 is like a porno basically.
• 22:44
  It's got like Ron Jeremy and I think another porn star.
• 22:47
  I don't know who it is though. I pulled up her IMDb and it all
• 22:51
  came with. Besides detention, all of the
• 22:54
  movies did not have posters, so I'm gonna say they.
• 22:56
  Were all porns? Yeah, OK.
• 22:58
  Yeah. Adult film actress.
• 22:59
  Yeah. Yeah, OK.
• 23:01
  So. All right, what were your
• 23:02
  absurds? I found it very stressful
• 23:06
  watching Riley and Clapton ride the skateboard together, but
• 23:11
  that's partly because I can't stand on a skateboard myself.
• 23:13
  It wasn't even a longboard. It was a skateboard.
• 23:16
  Yeah, that's a dude. No, no, no, you can't do that.
• 23:19
  You can't do that. How'd they do that?
• 23:23
  The one guy that just like, mugged Riley.
• 23:26
  Yeah. My name, Yeah, Ioni and her mom
• 23:30
  searching places because there's gonna be a dance off.
• 23:32
  That was another thing that I thought was weird.
• 23:34
  Like we got like at the end of this movie, we're building up.
• 23:36
  The climax is like, hey, here's this whole thing with Ioni and
• 23:39
  her mom going and doing like a a Freaky Friday type situation
• 23:44
  where they're just swapping body.
• 23:45
  It's like, do we need this? This is going on for 10 minutes.
• 23:48
  Yeah. And like, the thing with that is
• 23:50
  that it was very intriguing when we were getting, like, these
• 23:53
  flashbacks through the past, like, month or so.
• 23:55
  And we see that Ione and Riley used to be best friends.
• 23:58
  And I'm like, oh. So this is part of the reason
• 24:00
  she feels like everything is terrible because she's had a
• 24:03
  really hellish mind. She's lost her best friend and
• 24:05
  the guy she's got a crush on. Yeah.
• 24:07
  So. Yeah, this movie does tie things
• 24:10
  up OK at the end though, and it does a pretty like with how many
• 24:13
  places it goes, it does a decent enough job.
• 24:15
  Does manage to tie most of the things together?
• 24:17
  Yeah, that's that's pretty impressive.
• 24:19
  Yeah, yeah. The, the whole thing, there's
• 24:22
  just, there's so much that just comes at you.
• 24:24
  But the I'm also going to call absurd on the fact that the most
• 24:28
  popular girls in the school are saying that everybody's got to
• 24:32
  go see Cinder Hella 2 in theaters.
• 24:34
  Because let me tell you, I would have been the one saying we all
• 24:36
  got to go see Cinder Hella 2 in the theaters in high school.
• 24:39
  And I was by and large the opposite of the most popular
• 24:42
  every girl in school so. I'm in the same boat as you man.
• 24:47
  Yeah, people were watching like Twilight and shit back then.
• 24:51
  Yeah. And look at us now.
• 24:53
  Yeah, we're. Just we're we're late to the
• 24:56
  party on that one, OK. OK.
• 24:59
  So overall rating, what are you giving this?
• 25:03
  I think I got to give this one a 5A. 5.
• 25:06
  Yeah, it's way too scatterbrained for me, man.
• 25:08
  Like it's just it it doesn't keep a cohesive plot, thought,
• 25:12
  story, character, anything throughout the entire movie and
• 25:16
  it just like it keeps getting lost in itself and it always me
• 25:19
  because of that I. Get an 8.
• 25:22
  OK, that's, you know, that's I'm glad that this movie has its
• 25:25
  audience out there. Like we say, it's you.
• 25:28
  This one just not as much for me.
• 25:30
  Like I, I can appreciate a lot of the things that they pull off
• 25:33
  in it, but it's just, it's just too, it's too much.
• 25:38
  Yeah, way too much for me. OK, I'm stupid.
• 25:41
  I can't do this well. We have a starting average of
• 25:43
  6.5. OK.
• 25:45
  So that's better than 90°. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:48
  OK, Not bad. Are we ready to talk about it?
• 25:50
  We are. OK, so we start off.
• 25:53
  Taylor Fisher wakes up and she lets us know that she's a bitch.
• 25:56
  Beauty, intelligence, talent, Charisma.
• 25:59
  Hoobastank. Speaking of Tim and Eric, that's
• 26:03
  one of the things I always think of Zach Galifianakis going who
• 26:06
  bustink. He's like giving acting lessons.
• 26:09
  Yeah, yeah, she loves indie music, takes her pecs and did
• 26:13
  something at the Pizza Pit, judging from all of her
• 26:15
  voicemails. Jeez, yeah, something went down
• 26:18
  there. She's also hyping up Cinderella
• 26:20
  2 Beauty Scream. Love the title of that.
• 26:22
  That's amazing. God I want to.
• 26:24
  I want Cinderella 2 for our TV or not to be this I.
• 26:28
  Know man, I want that movie dude.
• 26:30
  The director writers, you guys make that movie.
• 26:33
  Please get. We have a montage of her
• 26:37
  explaining how to be cool. This was happening so fast I
• 26:40
  didn't have time to write down. Yeah exactly.
• 26:42
  It's going so fucking fast. She's getting mad at her mom for
• 26:44
  making breakfast and shit. And she was like, I don't eat
• 26:46
  bread. She goes since when?
• 26:48
  Since right now. I hate you.
• 26:50
  And then she gets a text from Cinder Hella saying that they're
• 26:53
  gonna kill her, and then she's not taking it seriously.
• 26:55
  And then what do you know? Cinder Hella is there and kills
• 26:57
  her. Then we have Grizzly, like
• 27:00
  High's second biggest loser of all time, waking up in her bed.
• 27:04
  She's late for the bus because apparently it comes early on
• 27:06
  Wednesdays. Why?
• 27:07
  I don't know. That's not how buses work, no.
• 27:12
  And she asks her dad for a ride to school and he says sure.
• 27:14
  And then he goes, Nope, still drunk.
• 27:16
  And then the movie lets us know that detention does not support.
• 27:20
  Yeah, does not come down. Yeah, so she's walking to school
• 27:24
  now and she gets mugged. By Seger Clapton.
• 27:29
  So at first we thought Clapton had like customized Chuck Taylor
• 27:34
  All Stars that said Josh Hutcherson on him.
• 27:36
  And we're like, dude, that's so cool.
• 27:38
  And then we realized that it was just doing really snappy opening
• 27:41
  credits. I choose to believe that they
• 27:43
  actually still have Josh Hutcherson on there.
• 27:45
  Like in this universe, he's a fan of Josh Hutcherson.
• 27:47
  He's like, this guy's gonna blow up one day.
• 27:50
  I hope that Josh Hutcherson he actually has Josh Hutcherson All
• 27:54
  Stars. I mean, they exist.
• 27:56
  We saw them in the movie. I hope he got to keep that prop.
• 27:59
  I I really hope so too for. Him.
• 28:01
  Oh, we also have Dane Cook. It's so weird that Dane Cook is
• 28:04
  in this movie, but he's a principal and he's kind of an
• 28:07
  asshole. Yeah, he's.
• 28:09
  I think this is him telling the girl that she needs to not be
• 28:12
  pregnant because teenage pregnancy is not exactly good
• 28:15
  and. That's not a cute, quirky little
• 28:17
  romantic comedy. And she was like, I'm not
• 28:19
  pregnant. He goes, OK, well, then lighten
• 28:21
  up on the carbs. Yes?
• 28:25
  Dane Cook. I don't know anything about as a
• 28:27
  human or as a comedian, but I've seen him in a couple of movies
• 28:30
  and I think he's OK as an actor. He's not bad, yeah.
• 28:33
  That's all I'm going to say about him.
• 28:34
  I just, I'm at a point in my life now where I just assume all
• 28:37
  comedians are shitty and the only people that I know for that
• 28:41
  I don't think are shitty at this point are Nate Vargatzi and
• 28:44
  Micro Biblia. And if there are bad things
• 28:46
  about him, I don't want to hear it.
• 28:47
  Y'all. I don't.
• 28:48
  What about Jim Gaffigan? I don't know much about him
• 28:52
  either. I could see, I could see him
• 28:53
  having like some, some demons. Some Hot Pocket demons, yeah.
• 29:00
  Caliente pockets, yeah. I don't think Dane Cook is a bad
• 29:04
  guy. He looks unrecognizable now.
• 29:07
  He's had a lot of plastic surgery.
• 29:08
  Yeah, yeah. It's he's like a different
• 29:12
  looking dude entirely, but I don't think he's a bad person.
• 29:14
  I think he just caught a lot of hate because he was a very
• 29:16
  popular comedian in this era. And he, like in his era, was the
• 29:19
  edge Lord humor. Yeah, it's like the dude bro
• 29:21
  humor. Like, you know, if it's not your
• 29:23
  thing then whatever, but he's not a bad guy.
• 29:25
  The The bar has gotten really low here over the past decade.
• 29:28
  Yeah. The landscape has changed.
• 29:31
  Anyways, moving on, we see Clapton.
• 29:34
  He's getting bullied by what, Billy?
• 29:37
  Says yeah. Billy challenges him to fight
• 29:39
  for Ione at 3, and Riley tells Clapton that Ione is not worth
• 29:45
  dying over. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:49
  And he's going to fight him and Sanders there.
• 29:51
  And he asks Riley at the prom. And she's like, oh, what?
• 29:55
  Because I'm a girl, that's the only thing that I can care about
• 29:57
  in the world. And so basically she says no.
• 30:01
  I understand that, but like, that's probably why you don't
• 30:04
  have a lot of friends in high school if that's your approach.
• 30:06
  Somebody's wanting to take you to prom.
• 30:08
  Like, I don't know, Like you can just, if you're not interested,
• 30:10
  say no, I don't really like to do that.
• 30:13
  But she's like no, no, no, no. What?
• 30:15
  What movie was it? I think it was on last year's
• 30:17
  prom month. Maybe it was Mary Lou too, where
• 30:19
  she was like talking about how like, guys, just don't ever ask
• 30:23
  her out. Yeah, it was shit.
• 30:27
  Yeah, it's the girl cuz we get the guy that's in all the prom
• 30:30
  night movies. Yeah.
• 30:32
  And he asked her out then, or something like that.
• 30:34
  Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
• 30:35
  Yeah, it's, I mean, it's the same.
• 30:36
  It's the inverse of what I was talking about before with the
• 30:39
  male loneliness, the so-called male loneliness.
• 30:41
  Epidemic. It's like the opposite thing,
• 30:43
  yeah. Like, yeah, I get it, I was a
• 30:46
  miserable little thing in high school as well.
• 30:49
  But do some work. You'll grow.
• 30:51
  You'll get better. It's just not every like OK
• 30:54
  maybe to be fair, Sander is a pest Sander.
• 30:57
  Is a sex pest. Yeah, no, she on the Yeah, she
• 31:01
  has every right to say no to him.
• 31:02
  But if her stock response to anybody asking her to promise,
• 31:05
  like, Oh well, promise the only thing I can care about in the
• 31:08
  world, what about this and this and this and this?
• 31:10
  Yeah, I, I think it was fair to say it to him.
• 31:13
  Yeah, they're, they're in science class now and Clapton
• 31:17
  thinks that they're beaker thing, test tube, whatever.
• 31:21
  It looks like a bong so they light it up.
• 31:22
  The Science Tube. Science tube.
• 31:24
  Yeah, that's, that's the term, I think.
• 31:26
  Yeah. They they, they spark, they
• 31:28
  spark it up and it just sets off the fire alarm in the school and
• 31:32
  he gets in big, big trouble. I love this dumb dumb thinking
• 31:36
  that there's actually going to be a bong in class.
• 31:40
  Yeah, he's really fucking stupid.
• 31:42
  Sweet little dumb. So we get the terrible ultimatum
• 31:48
  of Clapton Davis. We get a lot of these like title
• 31:51
  cards. That's another thing I it's they
• 31:53
  could have been good. They could have been good if
• 31:56
  they had done it right. They just, I don't think he
• 31:59
  managed them right. So we see that last week he was
• 32:01
  in Principal Verge's office and Principal Verge asked him what
• 32:05
  he wants to do. And he's got like this whole
• 32:07
  music review website. He's got a very sophisticated
• 32:11
  rating classification system and a whole plan and.
• 32:15
  He's trying to be like a hipster dude that's like, yeah,
• 32:18
  reviewing indie music and shit like that, and it's not going to
• 32:21
  lead to anything. Yeah.
• 32:23
  So basically he's like, give me one reason to graduate.
• 32:26
  You get an A or save the universe.
• 32:29
  Yeah, this is very much like last week's movie from From
• 32:34
  Night 3, except in that case you want to be a doctor.
• 32:37
  Yeah, he's like you, dummy. You're not even smart enough to
• 32:40
  be a you're. You're below average.
• 32:42
  Even Ione is made head cheerleader because Taylor is
• 32:46
  not there and Riley has to be the mascot even though she's got
• 32:52
  the boot on her foot. Yeah, and I like this coach.
• 32:56
  The I think, I think it's a football coach.
• 32:59
  Yes. Yeah, he's.
• 33:00
  I love his intensity the entire time.
• 33:02
  It is really funny and it is exactly the right kind of way
• 33:06
  to, if you're going to do a spoof on a high school football
• 33:09
  coach like that over intensity. Yeah, no, this is one of the
• 33:12
  ones that landed with me. I I like this guy and this guy
• 33:14
  did a great job with it too. And.
• 33:16
  He's a good example of like the good humor in this movie because
• 33:19
  he's used exactly. The right amount exactly.
• 33:21
  Yeah, he could have been like excessive, but yeah, it was it
• 33:24
  was a good usage right there. He's, he's just like really
• 33:26
  intense and screaming and like working up the cheerleaders and
• 33:29
  shit. And gym class Clapton
• 33:33
  purposefully gets knocked out in dodgeball so he can go to the
• 33:36
  bleachers and watch Roadhouse so he can prepare for his fight
• 33:40
  with Billy Nolan. Yeah, he's learning how to fight
• 33:44
  through that. And then they also.
• 33:45
  Sanders telling him that he really needs to be studying
• 33:47
  Steven Seagal. No, no, there's, there's been
• 33:51
  like actual videos of Steven Seagal using his technique
• 33:54
  against like actual fighters and it's just not effective.
• 33:57
  It's it's a bullshit thing. You get a.
• 34:02
  He's he's just really bad right now.
• 34:04
  So they're they have debate class and Riley is giving her
• 34:08
  anti meat speech and she does start off with saying some
• 34:11
  vegetarians do eat fish. And this is the thing that
• 34:14
  drives me crazy because they're called Pescatu.
• 34:16
  Yeah, it's a different thing. It's an actual term, and that
• 34:19
  just bothers me because we have a word for it.
• 34:21
  If we have a word for a thing, use the word for the thing.
• 34:24
  I've but one thing having a wife that is vegan, whenever other
• 34:32
  people talk to me about it, they just ask me like is this vegan?
• 34:34
  Is this vegetarian? Like I don't know like I mean
• 34:37
  like is it me? Is it from like a animal like
• 34:40
  it's that easy. That's.
• 34:42
  Part of why I, I don't like it when people conflate the terms
• 34:45
  because then if I'm going to like some place that involves
• 34:49
  food and I'm like, oh, are there vegan options?
• 34:51
  People say yes, not knowing the difference between vegan and
• 34:54
  vegetarian. They just assume it's all the
• 34:56
  same thing. Words matter, you know what I
• 34:59
  mean? It's just one of those and like,
• 35:01
  it's a pet peeve of mine, obviously, because it impacts
• 35:03
  me, but it's also a pet peeve of mine because we we have a whole
• 35:08
  language and I think we should use it, You know, we.
• 35:10
  Live in a society. We live in a society.
• 35:14
  Gord is the other dude on the other end of the team, and this
• 35:17
  is the part that Jesse opened with the entire that's she said
• 35:20
  exactly what he says and it's fucking amazing.
• 35:23
  I catch writing him in my notes. You're not going to get this
• 35:25
  because you were an Elizabeth McGuire fan, but he was Gordo in
• 35:28
  my notes the entire time. I couldn't stop myself from
• 35:30
  writing him as Gordo. Yeah, I'm not a fan, but I saw a
• 35:35
  decent amount of that show. Yeah, I love this guy's.
• 35:38
  I love this character too. He's awesome.
• 35:41
  Especially later at the movie theater too.
• 35:44
  And so she, because she decides that she needs self esteem,
• 35:47
  she's she's debated into that viewpoint.
• 35:51
  So I guess Gord won the debate. He won and he might drop, like,
• 35:55
  yeah, how do you come back from that?
• 35:57
  And. I was trying to think, is there
• 35:59
  an actual comeback? She eats a burger and then she's
• 36:03
  at a low point and Sandra comes to hit on her and she's not
• 36:06
  feeling it. And then she tries to go sit
• 36:08
  with Ione and the cheerleaders and they all leave her by
• 36:11
  herself. So.
• 36:12
  Yeah, and then she is in the hallway and she's just decided
• 36:16
  she's gonna kill herself. Yeah, so she ties a noose and
• 36:20
  she goes up there and she can't even do that because she kicks
• 36:23
  out the chair and she's just kind of choking.
• 36:25
  Yeah, this is, this is a rough scene to watch because it it
• 36:30
  does kind of go on for a while and it's just it, it is really
• 36:33
  rough. But then it turns into
• 36:35
  Cinderella attacking her and ends up cutting the ropes so
• 36:38
  she's no longer up in the rafters.
• 36:40
  And that's another absurd thing. Cinderella couldn't even take
• 36:43
  her out. She's she's injured, she's in a
• 36:46
  leg brace and she's hanging stationary on her rope and you
• 36:49
  can't kill her with an axe. What the fuck?
• 36:51
  Well, and I think later when we find out spoiler that it's
• 36:54
  Sander, it kind of makes sense that he like, wants to stalk her
• 36:59
  and scare her. But yeah, try and kill her just
• 37:02
  yet. He may have changed his mind.
• 37:05
  I think he was mad at the rejection here.
• 37:07
  And then he was like, all right, I'm going to kill you then.
• 37:09
  And then he started it over. He's like, all right, I'll have
• 37:11
  another shot. She ends up the the bell rings,
• 37:15
  so the halls start filling up, and Cinderella runs away.
• 37:18
  Everybody's outside watching the fight that's about to happen
• 37:21
  between Clapton and Billy. And Riley runs out.
• 37:24
  She's like, I was just attacked. And they're like, like, what do
• 37:27
  you, what do you even care about?
• 37:29
  And then the cops pull up, and they're like, all right, your
• 37:32
  classmate Taylor Fisher was murdered.
• 37:34
  And she's like, oh, my God, I was just attacked.
• 37:36
  And they're like, ma'am, this is not about you.
• 37:39
  Yeah. Yeah, and the cops, they break
• 37:43
  up the fight too. And.
• 37:45
  She was in her room later that night and she's crying and she's
• 37:48
  reading her yearbook and it's like nice things that's being
• 37:51
  said about everybody, like how Clapton is like the friendliest
• 37:55
  person and if you got a high 5 of from him, you'd feel special.
• 37:58
  And Ione is like one of the friends, like one one of the
• 38:02
  prettiest, bubbliest cheerleaders, whatever.
• 38:05
  And then next to Riley's, it said better luck next year,
• 38:08
  buddy. And so she's crying, and then,
• 38:11
  oh, here's Cinderella back for more.
• 38:14
  So she runs out into her backyard and then into the
• 38:17
  neighbor's yard. And like, we get this kind of
• 38:19
  really cool chasing because it's going through the backyard swing
• 38:22
  set and then the clothesline. And then eventually she falls
• 38:25
  into the pool. And this is where the cops come
• 38:29
  again. And they still don't believe
• 38:31
  that she was attacked. They're like, making a bunch of
• 38:33
  references to, like, scream. Yeah.
• 38:35
  And then Clapton's across the street, so he's like, let's ride
• 38:39
  and talk. And she's like dude, she is so
• 38:41
  fucking full of herself. She's like this whole thing
• 38:43
  feels just like a conspiracy to make me sound cliched.
• 38:47
  Dude you need to get over your 17 year old angsty bullshit.
• 38:52
  This is is this so we're her like here with her and just
• 38:56
  clapping on the skateboard now. Yeah, like so much their their
• 38:59
  relationship like fucking explodes in this moment here.
• 39:02
  I like I was like, did they have a thing?
• 39:05
  Is there a thing ongoing currently?
• 39:07
  Because like by the end of it, she's like, hey, I'm coming with
• 39:10
  you and Ione Ione. Ione.
• 39:13
  To the movie theater, make room for 1/3 wheel or whatever.
• 39:16
  And like, I don't know, just the whole like I, I was.
• 39:19
  So it was like whiplash, just like, what the fuck happened?
• 39:21
  Like are they together? What happened?
• 39:24
  Because he's trying to be with Ione the entire time, but she's
• 39:27
  making herself very assertive here or something.
• 39:29
  Yeah. And I think so, I guess, and the
• 39:32
  gist of what we're going to get later is that about a month ago,
• 39:35
  Ione suddenly got really into 90s music, which really like hit
• 39:40
  all of Clapton's beats, you know?
• 39:42
  You know, the same thing happened to me in high school.
• 39:45
  I got super into Nirvana in high school.
• 39:48
  I was like fuck man, What? I just did you know about Kurt
• 39:54
  Cobain before you? Yeah, yeah, I knew about that.
• 39:56
  I'm. Just thinking about that bit
• 39:58
  from Parks and Rec where he's like, the town just discovered
• 40:01
  Nirvana, I don't have the heart to tell them what's gonna
• 40:03
  happen. In 1994, you know, Harlan was
• 40:07
  kind of like that too, I guess, yeah.
• 40:10
  So they're at Cinderella and. I like how Cinderella is
• 40:14
  basically it's basically Mary Lou mixed with Saw because
• 40:19
  they're playing on the torture porn mixed.
• 40:21
  With Sleep Away Camp because she's a moralistic killer, much
• 40:25
  like Angela Baker. What was her reason for killing?
• 40:28
  That the prom queen wasn't a virgin.
• 40:30
  Oh really? Oh shit, that was totally Angela
• 40:32
  She. Was like you had the worst kind
• 40:34
  of sex premarital. Is there a good kind of sex in
• 40:39
  that situation? Then I guess when you're
• 40:41
  married. OK, so.
• 40:43
  Your answer. It's not that deep, Yeah.
• 40:48
  But I like, I like the like little clip of the movie we get
• 40:51
  here because I I want to watch that.
• 40:53
  Yeah. You know, like it looks like it
• 40:54
  would be fun. And she's like, I can't carve.
• 40:58
  I've threw my ABS. I've been doing Pilates all
• 41:00
  year. Ione is being very disruptive
• 41:04
  during the movie. And then Gord, who's an usher in
• 41:06
  the theatre, comes and yells at Riley about it and they have a
• 41:10
  debate about the contract of a movie ticket.
• 41:12
  I'm on Gord's side. Again, he is.
• 41:14
  This dude's a legendary. That's correct.
• 41:16
  He's like in the it's the way that he speaks, too.
• 41:19
  It's very like a matter of fact, like I have won this every
• 41:23
  single time. And he, yeah, he rules.
• 41:27
  Then they go bowling afterwards and Ione and Riley were like
• 41:32
  arguing because Ione says that Riley is not hot enough to be
• 41:36
  murdered in a slasher. Yeah, they're talking about
• 41:39
  because she's like, insisting that Cinder Heller is trying to
• 41:42
  kill her, too. And they're like, no, you're not
• 41:44
  hot enough. The only reason they killed
• 41:46
  Taylor is because she was the most popular and prettiest.
• 41:48
  Yeah. So like, if it's gonna be
• 41:49
  anybody, it's gonna be me and it's gonna be next.
• 41:51
  And Riley? Says yeah.
• 41:52
  And they're like, well, she does have to be the main hero because
• 41:56
  she's a virgin. And she's like, actually, I'm
• 41:57
  not a virgin. So then we flashed back to
• 42:01
  reveal that Ione and Riley used to be friends, and Ione had
• 42:05
  encouraged Riley to ask Clapton out.
• 42:07
  And then all of a sudden. Yeah, she's took an interest to.
• 42:10
  Is this when we also get like the talent show thing I guess?
• 42:14
  Yes, like the dancing thing. Yeah, they do the dancing thing
• 42:16
  and she sees Ione in the audience with Clapton and she
• 42:21
  falls off the stage and that's how she broke her foot.
• 42:23
  Yeah, it was like 2 weeks ago or something.
• 42:25
  So the school is closed so everybody can grieve Taylor
• 42:28
  Fisher's death, but everybody instead is like partying or at
• 42:31
  the mall or preparing for the football game.
• 42:34
  At the football game, Billy's hands are sticking to the ball
• 42:38
  and then when he manages to get them free, he falls backwards
• 42:41
  and they get stuck to Riley's mascot costume uniform thing.
• 42:46
  And then he vomits acid and melts somebody's helmet.
• 42:50
  It's just like, what the fuck is happening here?
• 42:52
  And he, like, runs to the locker room, him and Riley.
• 42:56
  Riley follows to confront him and figure out what's going on.
• 42:58
  And this is where we get the lonely ballad Billy Nolan.
• 43:02
  This is so fucking weird. Like OK, so he's a kid.
• 43:07
  He has Richard Brake as his dad. It's not going well already.
• 43:11
  Yeah, this already like set up for failure there.
• 43:14
  I like, I fucking love Richard Brake, but he's typecast as a
• 43:17
  piece of shit and everything. If you're in a movie and Richard
• 43:21
  Brake is part of your family, you're fucked, Yeah.
• 43:24
  He goes and wanders the woods with his dog and there's a
• 43:28
  meteor that hits and he goes over there and he touches it and
• 43:32
  he gets fly powers. And his hand is like freaky so
• 43:36
  his dad forces him to wear ATV on it and so everybody teases
• 43:40
  him and calls him TV hand. This could have been good.
• 43:43
  Yeah, it could have been it just like it.
• 43:45
  I think the play, like the timing of doing it here when it
• 43:49
  was done, I don't know. There's something about it.
• 43:51
  It had a lot of potential because I love the imagery of
• 43:53
  this kid with ATV on his hand and the kids just, like, pulling
• 43:57
  him in the classroom, like, pointing at him.
• 43:59
  Yeah, He's like on the playground and they're trying to
• 44:01
  fire him. He's just like swinging the TV
• 44:02
  around at kids. Yeah, and eventually his hand
• 44:05
  can look mostly normal so he takes the TV off.
• 44:08
  But he does get random fly powers, such as when he is
• 44:11
  sexing. Yeah, just pros wings.
• 44:14
  Yeah. So he gets stuck to Riley again,
• 44:20
  but this time it's in like a fucking type position.
• 44:23
  And Clapton walks in and sees what appears to him to be sex.
• 44:28
  And again, I'm confused because he's like, is this the part
• 44:31
  where I'm supposed to say, how could you?
• 44:33
  Like, were you guys a thing here?
• 44:36
  Yeah, it really feels like Clapton is trying to both have
• 44:39
  his cake and eat it. I it's just so weird.
• 44:42
  I don't understand the relationships in this movie.
• 44:45
  Yeah, you don't get to say like, oh, I'm with Ione, we're going
• 44:48
  to prom. But also, Riley, you must
• 44:50
  continue to pine for me. Yeah, how, like, how could you,
• 44:53
  like, have sex while I'm over here trying to pursue sex with
• 44:55
  somebody else? Yeah.
• 44:56
  It's kind of messed up. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:59
  So we cut to Sander hosting a party at his house.
• 45:04
  Riley is very, very drunk and because she sees Clapton and
• 45:09
  Ione making out, she wants to make him jealous.
• 45:11
  So she's like Sander, come dance with me.
• 45:13
  And the dancing is very painful. And it, this is another one
• 45:16
  that's kind of funny cuz it's just Sander.
• 45:19
  Anytime that they're dancing, he's just like yelling the
• 45:22
  entire time. Yeah.
• 45:25
  And then, then. He's cuz he is dressed as Jean
• 45:28
  Luc Picard. He told Riley that it was a
• 45:30
  costume party so they are the only two in costume.
• 45:34
  She is Claire Dane from My so-called Life which is amazing.
• 45:40
  Riley really just she was a character like not gonna peak in
• 45:44
  high school. Just wait till your 20s or 30s.
• 45:46
  Yeah, man, it gets better. Yeah, it's fine.
• 45:49
  But he's got a pinky ring on and it gets caught in her like
• 45:53
  overall buckle. Relatable.
• 45:56
  I feel that. But like, he's trying to get it
• 45:58
  out and in the process of doing that, like, opens up her shirt.
• 46:02
  Yep, and we get booby. And we get booby, and it's all
• 46:04
  recorded on film, and everybody acts like Riley did something
• 46:08
  wrong with this. And this pisses me off.
• 46:10
  And I'm going to say that this is one of the ugliest that I
• 46:12
  forgot to bring up earlier. Yeah, that it kind of ties into
• 46:15
  Sander being a sex fest, because if he hadn't been groping her,
• 46:18
  it wouldn't have happened in the first place.
• 46:19
  Yeah. Well, you see, The thing is, I
• 46:21
  don't think anybody has a problem with it in the moment
• 46:23
  here because they're like everybody's psyched about it
• 46:25
  because they see boobs. But like it after the fact,
• 46:28
  there's a fight, but like we're skipping ahead.
• 46:31
  We'll we'll come back in a second, but that's.
• 46:33
  What the movie does, it's. That's true.
• 46:34
  When it comes back to things, when she's brought back into the
• 46:36
  principal's office, they blame the fight because she revealed
• 46:39
  her boob. And it's like, yeah, the leap of
• 46:41
  logic there is like, I think it's supposed to be stupid and
• 46:44
  supposed to be funny. I think it's meant to be like a
• 46:46
  joke. But it also in it's honestly,
• 46:50
  it's kind of a real thing though.
• 46:52
  Like, Oh my God, you had your boob out.
• 46:56
  It doesn't matter that it was some guy that pulled the boob
• 46:58
  out. That's your boob.
• 46:59
  Therefore it is your responsibility.
• 47:01
  You caused all of this with your womanly body.
• 47:04
  How dare you. It's just this.
• 47:06
  This is just how women are treated in society.
• 47:09
  Yeah. It's like a joke that is
• 47:11
  actually talking about a wider systemic issue.
• 47:14
  Yeah, this joke, this whole thing gets kind of weird here in
• 47:17
  a little bit. So OK, we're moving back.
• 47:21
  So there's a fight. It's Billy.
• 47:24
  He's there at the party and he calls Clapton out for the fight
• 47:27
  again, cuz now they're gonna do it and they start the fight.
• 47:31
  But Riley trips Billy. And he starts to have his fly
• 47:34
  powers come out. So he runs inside so he can, you
• 47:38
  know, fly out upstairs alone. And uh oh, Cinder Hall is here.
• 47:44
  And Cinder Hall attacks Billy cuts off a lot of his different
• 47:47
  body parts and is throwing them out through the window and like
• 47:49
  they're landing on the grill. The best part of that though, is
• 47:52
  he like punches ATV and he gets ATV hand back and yeah, he just
• 47:56
  gets caught because. He lived.
• 47:57
  Yeah, he gets caught because he was just trying to punch with
• 48:00
  the TV and gets wedged in the door.
• 48:02
  Yeah, so Riley's called into the principal's office, like you
• 48:05
  said, because there was a video of her nipple and it was
• 48:08
  uploaded to the Internet. It was on the news.
• 48:10
  And again, this is a 17 year old girl who had her boob
• 48:15
  involuntarily exposed and it was recorded.
• 48:18
  And now this is being like, parade it around for everybody
• 48:21
  to fucking see and, you know, without her consent.
• 48:24
  You know what else? It's also child pornography.
• 48:26
  And it's child pornography. Yeah.
• 48:27
  And she is the one that's in trouble for it.
• 48:30
  Yeah, they they call her like, all right, so you're a porn star
• 48:33
  now. What are you doing?
• 48:34
  Making a little porn flicks over here?
• 48:35
  And another thing that's weird, like the teacher there that she
• 48:40
  likes, she's offended that he didn't watch the video.
• 48:44
  Like that's like that's that's a green flag dude.
• 48:48
  Like the fact that he didn't want to watch your like, look at
• 48:51
  your underage boobs. That's good.
• 48:53
  Yeah, and this is where Principal Verge tells them that
• 48:56
  everybody that was near Billy Nolan in that video are going to
• 48:59
  have detention tomorrow from 10A to 10B, right through the.
• 49:03
  Prom Saturday detention. Is this a real thing or is this
• 49:06
  a thing just created for this movie?
• 49:07
  I don't know, I was like a goody 2 shoes in high school so I
• 49:11
  never had detention. You never had detention?
• 49:13
  I never had detention, dude. Bad detention.
• 49:15
  What'd you do? I can't remember.
• 49:18
  Can you not remember it? Do you just not want to admit
• 49:20
  it? No I can't remember, I remember
• 49:22
  my AE1 because that one was dumb as fuck, but the detention one
• 49:26
  was in high school and I can't remember exactly why.
• 49:30
  Oh well, I just read books in it.
• 49:33
  So she is upset. She feels very low.
• 49:37
  The teacher, Mr. Kendall, I think, yeah, he is trying to
• 49:40
  comfort her. And then she was like, maybe I
• 49:42
  like older men. And he's like, and he goes in
• 49:45
  with his boyfriend. Yeah.
• 49:48
  So we see a sad student montage of everybody that's not going to
• 49:52
  be able to go to prom because they got to go to detention
• 49:54
  instead. And then we get the disturbing
• 49:57
  education of the time, the disturbing abduction of the time
• 50:00
  travelling bear. This is just I don't need this
• 50:03
  at all. It was.
• 50:04
  It was done if you ask me. Yeah, it's just the bear running
• 50:07
  into a spaceship that looks like it has a forest inside.
• 50:10
  Like, it serves no purpose for this movie.
• 50:12
  I think it was just like, hey, this is funny, right, guys?
• 50:15
  What do you think? It's like, yeah, I hate it.
• 50:18
  It kills all of the momentum we have here.
• 50:21
  Verge says that he'll let everybody go once the killer
• 50:24
  fesses up and they all start fighting.
• 50:27
  And there's just a guy in a in a hoodie.
• 50:30
  He's had daily detention for 19 years.
• 50:32
  Says Elliot. Yeah, this is the silent enigma
• 50:35
  of Elliot Fink, and this is where we cut backwards 19 years
• 50:40
  to see all the various detentions with him just sitting
• 50:42
  there in his hoodie, carving at the desk.
• 50:44
  It is cool. Yeah, he was.
• 50:47
  And like, and we see like his first one where he's being
• 50:51
  brought in there and they're like, you're OK, I will.
• 50:53
  Not have a budding pornographer in my school.
• 50:56
  I will let you finish detention when I say you're reformed.
• 50:59
  And then he remembers looking up and seeing a blonde girl who
• 51:03
  looks just like Ione, and she's like trying to get a cell phone
• 51:05
  to work and she doesn't have signal in 1992.
• 51:09
  Two. Yeah.
• 51:13
  The perfect enigma of Ione and Sloan's mind swap.
• 51:16
  And again, this is another weird thing that's just like, OK, so
• 51:20
  Ione and her mom swap bodies. She went back to 1992 to learn
• 51:24
  how to dance. Yeah, her mom was like, Oh yeah,
• 51:26
  no, I can do the dance off for you.
• 51:29
  And that night, because of the like alien shit, like their
• 51:34
  bodies swap and Ione wakes up in her mom's body in 1992 and her
• 51:39
  mom is in her body in 2011. And that's why all of a sudden
• 51:43
  she's super into 90s stuff and can attracts Clapton that way.
• 51:47
  Yeah, and they're all like more comfortable in that era, too.
• 51:50
  It did make me nostalgic for the 90s.
• 51:52
  I wanted to go back. Yeah, the worthless yearning of
• 51:56
  Kef Verge. He wanted to ask Sloan out to
• 51:58
  prom and she is like on the bus again, a very upset about her
• 52:03
  phone not working and she says absolutely no way, we're not
• 52:07
  doing prom together. And he wants to make a bomb, but
• 52:10
  instead he burns his face trying to end the future.
• 52:14
  Yeah, we're back at detention. There's a bloody shoe on.
• 52:18
  We're back at 2011 detention. Yeah, yeah, there's a bloody
• 52:22
  shoe on Riley's desk. Something happened while they
• 52:24
  were doing these, like flashbacks or side stories or
• 52:28
  whatever. People are gone and have people
• 52:32
  left. I think Sander and Clapton are
• 52:34
  both gone, right? Not yet, not yet.
• 52:37
  So a Bear and Taylor shoe appear on Riley's desk, and they decide
• 52:42
  that they need to figure out what's gonna happen, because
• 52:44
  this sounds like the setup of Cinderella 3.
• 52:46
  Yeah, they really so. They torn it to figure out what
• 52:49
  is gonna happen next. Yeah, they realize the killer is
• 52:51
  in the room. They're present, so it's one of
• 52:53
  them. Yeah.
• 52:55
  So they they torrent the movie for Cinder Hella 3, which is
• 52:59
  exactly what like is playing out.
• 53:01
  Exactly like their situation. Is right, and the movie they're
• 53:04
  torrenting in Cinder Hella 3 is Beauty Beast 4 starring Ron
• 53:09
  Jeremy. Yeah.
• 53:10
  And I guess they get the plan from that.
• 53:13
  Is there time travel or something in that?
• 53:15
  And they're like, OK, I guess we got a time travel.
• 53:17
  Is that what happens? I, I don't know, I start losing
• 53:21
  the plot real hard, right? Here I do too.
• 53:23
  Time travel happens. I I go so crazy trying to make
• 53:27
  it make sense in my head that it makes less sense.
• 53:28
  Listen, this movie is just so all over the place already.
• 53:32
  I just, I, I do lose a lot of what's happening.
• 53:34
  We we cut it to Gord that though.
• 53:36
  Yeah, well, Verge interrupts. He tells them no touring movies
• 53:40
  in his library. And then as he's closing the
• 53:42
  door while he leaves, we see that Gord is dead on the back of
• 53:45
  the door, and then Verge is killed outside in the hall.
• 53:49
  So Elliot says that he figured out this equation on his death
• 53:55
  desk, which means that the world is ending in 10 minutes in 1992.
• 54:00
  Again, what the fuck? Why?
• 54:01
  Why are we doing this? Why not just make this a simple
• 54:04
  thing with the killer? Just like, here's the killer,
• 54:06
  let's get the killer, we got the killer, now we have the fucking
• 54:10
  world ending in 1992. Why?
• 54:14
  And this is where they realize that Clapton and Sander are
• 54:16
  missing and they're like, wow, Clapton really has always hated
• 54:19
  Virgin. Loves the 90s.
• 54:20
  He must be the killer. So they go back to the 90s
• 54:25
  because Toshiba, he's also been there this whole time.
• 54:29
  Yeah, he's just been turning the bear in the school hallway into
• 54:33
  a time machine. So they use it to send Riley
• 54:36
  back to 1992. And while she's running through
• 54:38
  the hall, she sees her dad as a senior, and she says you need to
• 54:41
  sober up before mom leaves you. No, yeah, she said.
• 54:45
  This is why mom left you. And he's like, what?
• 54:47
  This is why mom doesn't fucking love you hurts.
• 54:52
  She finds Clapton who is like a star in class, like he's got the
• 54:57
  highest grade ever on the test. It's just a name.
• 55:00
  He's not going to know, man. And she's like, I know you're
• 55:02
  the killer. He goes, I'm not the killer.
• 55:04
  Sander is helping Verge build a bomb, though.
• 55:08
  Oh, maybe we should go stop them.
• 55:10
  And she's like, yes, let's kill Sander.
• 55:12
  We have to. He goes, I just meant like
• 55:14
  kidnap him. You really took it to 100.
• 55:17
  Like we, we don't have to kill him.
• 55:19
  I thought savior because they realize that they're doing it in
• 55:21
  front of the entire class and then clapped was like and scene
• 55:24
  they. Just walk out.
• 55:27
  So they find Clap or Sander with Verge in the science class, and
• 55:32
  yeah, they're making a bomb. Sander's really encouraging him
• 55:35
  to set the bomb off, and he's OK with that because.
• 55:39
  Because I own Ioni. Gotta keep.
• 55:41
  Slash Sloan. Yeah, rejected him for prom.
• 55:45
  So they kidnapped Sander and they're taking him to the bear,
• 55:48
  but it's too late. The bomb has gone off.
• 55:52
  So they get back into the bear again.
• 55:54
  This time they're only 6 minutes before the bomb goes off and
• 55:58
  they realize that it's because Sloane Sashayone rejected Verge.
• 56:03
  And they're like, you need to go to prom with him.
• 56:07
  And this is a really gross thing.
• 56:09
  She's like, I don't want to go to prom with him so you can't
• 56:12
  make me. And then he's like, are you
• 56:13
  going to kiss me with tongue? You're going to put out like,
• 56:15
  it's really fucking gross. Like it is you went.
• 56:18
  From like a prom, which at its basic level is just like
• 56:22
  dressing up and dancing. So like vagina please.
• 56:25
  Yeah, I think that's what like, what a lot of people expect.
• 56:28
  It's so fucking gross. Yeah, Yep.
• 56:32
  And yeah, she agrees. So he doesn't do the bomb.
• 56:36
  Then Riley and Clapton are trying to get back to 2011, and
• 56:41
  this is where we discovered that.
• 56:43
  So the whole joke has been that she's Grizzly High's second
• 56:46
  biggest loser because the first biggest loser was somebody who
• 56:50
  gave the stuffed bear a blowjob in 1992.
• 56:54
  And then we realized that this was actually her trying to get
• 56:56
  The Time Machine to work. Yeah.
• 56:58
  'Cause she's pulling the lever and it's like stuck and it's
• 57:00
  like right in the Dick area. And the person who took the
• 57:03
  photograph of her doing that, Yeah.
• 57:06
  Yeah, I like that. That was a good time, right?
• 57:08
  There. And you see him being whisked
• 57:10
  away by the principal to detention.
• 57:13
  Then Xander just explodes. Yeah, he brings the bomb and he
• 57:17
  thinks he's going to set the bomb off anyway, but it's not
• 57:19
  done correctly, so he just ends up exploding himself.
• 57:23
  Yeah. But they get back to the future,
• 57:25
  and the future is different. Verge is cool, like everybody
• 57:28
  likes him. He's still with Sloane or Ione,
• 57:31
  I don't know. It's ione at this point.
• 57:33
  Yeah, yeah, it's Ione still in Sloane's body, but yeah.
• 57:37
  And she is, you know, she's actually really happy with him.
• 57:41
  It's a whole weird dynamic watching her and Sloane and her
• 57:44
  body and Verge interact as like a family unit.
• 57:48
  Clapton and Riley when prom king and queen.
• 57:52
  Yeah, they're popular. Too, Yeah.
• 57:55
  And. And so one of the things is that
• 57:58
  Clapton said Clapton don't dance, but he while he was
• 58:03
  learning the ways of Swayze in Roadhouse, he also watched some
• 58:06
  other sleazy things and picked up some some dance moves.
• 58:09
  He saw Yeah, he he does the dance.
• 58:11
  He dirty dances her. Gord is alive and he is in the
• 58:15
  band on stage. And Sanders there, and he grabs
• 58:21
  a knife and it turns out he's Cinder Hallo.
• 58:25
  Yeah, and cuz the whole future hasn't changed.
• 58:28
  Billy and Taylor are both still dead.
• 58:30
  Sander is Cinderella and so he and Clapton end up fighting but
• 58:34
  then Riley jumps up and she assists.
• 58:37
  Like he ends up being pulled into the barracks.
• 58:38
  There's like a magnetic force thing.
• 58:40
  I don't the time travel. I don't understand, it just
• 58:43
  starts sucking them in. And then we get like a breakfast
• 58:45
  club outro where like instead of like we discovered each one of
• 58:49
  us is a jock, a freak, a Princess.
• 58:53
  Like instead we get each one of us is a child, an adult, a king,
• 58:59
  a queen. And an alien.
• 59:01
  Because an alien. Because Gord is actually an
• 59:04
  alien that took the persona of a Canadian to come and take over a
• 59:09
  planet Earth. Yep.
• 59:10
  And that's the end of it. That's the end of it.
• 59:13
  You know, I'm kind of mad at this for not trying to see if
• 59:17
  there's an after credit scene because this is the type of
• 59:18
  movie that I think is prime for one.
• 59:20
  To be fair, it was to be, and I think sometimes, like our brains
• 59:23
  just accept when it goes to the small screen to like, oh, that
• 59:27
  means the movie's really over. No need to pull this up and see
• 59:30
  if there's after credits. I think you're right.
• 59:32
  I'm going to check IMDb to see because there's like the crazy
• 59:34
  credits. Yes, crazy credits.
• 59:37
  OK, here we go. Just past 6 minutes into the
• 59:40
  film, cast and crew names appear on and replace the names of
• 59:43
  various brand. Oh, that's not.
• 59:45
  Oh, I guess it's opening crowds. Yeah, never mind then.
• 59:48
  OK. Yeah, there's no after crowds.
• 59:50
  OK. All right.
• 59:51
  OK. So that's that.
• 59:52
  That's how the movie goes, it concludes.
• 59:56
  Listen, I think it's a movie that almost works better if you
• 59:59
  don't think about it and you just accept everything that's
• 1:00:02
  flying at your face and have fun with it.
• 1:00:04
  I'm gonna keep it in an 8. I think it's fun.
• 1:00:07
  I don't think it's like. This is a gut 8, you know what I
• 1:00:10
  mean. This is a movie that I have to I
• 1:00:14
  have to not pay attention to, I have to like, very passively
• 1:00:17
  watch it or else I'll get frustrated.
• 1:00:19
  Yeah. I'm keeping A5.
• 1:00:21
  It's just not for me, man. It's I The things that it does
• 1:00:24
  well, it excels in pretty well. But like just the other like the
• 1:00:30
  whole structure of it kills it for me.
• 1:00:32
  Yeah, OK. You said you're keeping it A5.
• 1:00:36
  So same score. All right, 6.5 Natalia, like she
• 1:00:41
  was, dude, there was a squirrel outside that was just fucking
• 1:00:46
  shit up for her the entire time she was on edge.
• 1:00:49
  She didn't trust the bear because of the squirrel, and she
• 1:00:53
  was like, that bear is just a larger squirrel and squirrels
• 1:00:56
  are no good, I think. I think this movie actually
• 1:00:58
  scared. Her.
• 1:00:58
  I think it soothed her at the end though with The Dirty
• 1:01:01
  Dancing. Yes, because you dirty dance
• 1:01:03
  with her. Yeah, that's how I get her up on
• 1:01:05
  the couch. That's.
• 1:01:05
  How you get her up on the couch in the bed?
• 1:01:07
  Yeah. She likes to jump.
• 1:01:08
  And then like, you take her the rest of the way.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah. And I'll hold her above my head.
• 1:01:13
  So I think I think she'll give it a 7.
• 1:01:15
  OK. All right.
• 1:01:17
  Who is Zoe's ultimate warrior? This is gonna be tough.
• 1:01:21
  Maybe. I think that OK, I think she
• 1:01:24
  sees herself as gored because I think she thinks when she's
• 1:01:27
  meowing at us about dinner time, she's like laying down the hard
• 1:01:30
  facts like gored is. I was also going to say Gored,
• 1:01:33
  but because we often joke that Zoe might not actually be a cat,
• 1:01:36
  she might be alien. In a cat.
• 1:01:37
  Also. True.
• 1:01:38
  Yeah, Yeah. OK, there we go.
• 1:01:39
  She's gored then. OK.
• 1:01:41
  She is gored OK Dream sequel. OK, let's see.
• 1:01:49
  Honestly, bring Josh Hutcherson back.
• 1:01:52
  This movie does enough weird shit.
• 1:01:54
  Just put them in a cinder hella movie.
• 1:01:56
  Yes. That would be fun.
• 1:01:58
  Yeah, like pull them all, like actually into a cinder hella
• 1:02:01
  book. Kind of like final girls, like
• 1:02:03
  pulled into the movie. Yeah, I think that that would do
• 1:02:05
  well. Yeah, I would watch that for
• 1:02:07
  sure because I really want to watch a Cinder hella movie and
• 1:02:09
  that'd be the closest I could get to.
• 1:02:12
  That make get Pamela Springsteen's Angela Baker.
• 1:02:17
  Yeah, that would be awesome. Like no offense, Melissa, I love
• 1:02:20
  you and you're doing great things.
• 1:02:22
  I just the particular brand of Angela Baker.
• 1:02:27
  It's a different character. Sleepway Camp 2 and 3.
• 1:02:29
  Yeah, they're, they're different people.
• 1:02:30
  Yeah, entirely. OK, cool.
• 1:02:33
  That was easy. Yes.
• 1:02:35
  OK, new tagline. OK.
• 1:02:39
  OK, so the original tagline is cancel your future.
• 1:02:44
  Yeah, not even. I don't.
• 1:02:45
  I don't truly get that because we don't do anything about the
• 1:02:51
  future in this movie. It's the past.
• 1:02:53
  Well, they're trying to end the future though with the bomb.
• 1:02:57
  I guess, yeah, that's The thing is though, I struggle because
• 1:03:01
  like, what? What was consistent?
• 1:03:04
  What was the thing in this movie?
• 1:03:05
  What's the thing? There's so many things you could
• 1:03:10
  do, like bear with us because of the band.
• 1:03:13
  I like that. OK, bear with us.
• 1:03:16
  Cuz maybe you're gonna have to bear with us here.
• 1:03:19
  Yeah, there's a lot that happens.
• 1:03:21
  OK. OK, OK.
• 1:03:23
  All right, we got. I've got a review.
• 1:03:28
  No count. It's technically 7 out of 10,
• 1:03:32
  but I feel like it was a very, like mixed review.
• 1:03:34
  It was very fair, like on both sides of like pros and cons of
• 1:03:37
  the movie. And I wasn't sure exactly where
• 1:03:39
  you landed on the movie. OK.
• 1:03:41
  So I thought that this would be a good like thing for us to be
• 1:03:46
  able to discuss, right? So this is a user review on
• 1:03:49
  IMDb. It says too cool for school.
• 1:03:52
  Actually, you might feel this trust so hard to be cool that it
• 1:03:54
  never quite achieves that goal. But is that a criticism?
• 1:03:58
  And if you think that the same man who directed this took a
• 1:04:00
  hiatus after his last movie, Twerk, just because he wanted to
• 1:04:03
  find himself in his own style rather than do one studio movie
• 1:04:06
  after the other, The director himself will be the first to
• 1:04:08
  tell you how much he despises the movie itself.
• 1:04:10
  Though I do think he's a bit too hard on himself on Twerk.
• 1:04:13
  Wait, he hates detention? He hates twerk.
• 1:04:16
  OK. Still, it's refreshing to see a
• 1:04:18
  director not being full of himself.
• 1:04:20
  Kudos for that. In the movie he made here,
• 1:04:22
  Detention is worth watching a second time just to see if you
• 1:04:25
  got everything right the first time around.
• 1:04:27
  And because of the dialogue, if you want to criticize something,
• 1:04:29
  I guess you can say that every character is fast with a witty
• 1:04:31
  response, making them all seem alike.
• 1:04:34
  Characters could have been developed a bit better.
• 1:04:35
  Still good throughout with a rather complicated story.
• 1:04:40
  OK, Yeah, That was one of my biggest problems was like every,
• 1:04:44
  everybody was too fast. Everybody like there was just
• 1:04:47
  like there was no dead silence. Yeah, it was always somebody
• 1:04:52
  talking or music and like people responded instantaneously.
• 1:04:57
  Nobody had to think about anything because it was just, it
• 1:05:00
  was almost like robotic. Yeah.
• 1:05:03
  It was automatic, it was weird. It was just but to the movies
• 1:05:09
  credit, I agree that the style is good.
• 1:05:11
  I do like that they have, you know, their own style.
• 1:05:15
  The the music video style definitely exists there and it
• 1:05:21
  has its humorous moments. I will disagree about the story
• 1:05:24
  though. The story is too out there.
• 1:05:26
  It's too, it's just they couldn't, he couldn't pick a
• 1:05:30
  thing. So he just like, it's like this
• 1:05:32
  movie has ADHD and it wants to go so many different directions
• 1:05:35
  without actually staying on a single course.
• 1:05:37
  So Coco, Coco, Chanel famously said before you leave the house
• 1:05:42
  or move one accessory, like how people have a tendency to over
• 1:05:46
  accessorize, like can't get their favorite.
• 1:05:48
  That's what this movie needed to do.
• 1:05:51
  Kill its darlings type thing like like.
• 1:05:53
  You might really like this. You might think this is cool and
• 1:05:55
  funny, but do we need this? Yes, you need to remove an
• 1:05:58
  element of something like. I think we could have removed
• 1:06:01
  the alien, like we didn't have to go as hard on the alien thing
• 1:06:04
  as we did. The alien thing didn't even
• 1:06:06
  really like it, didn't even go hard until like the last couple
• 1:06:09
  of seconds of the movie. And the only thing that you
• 1:06:11
  could kind of argue that it did was give Ionian Sloan the body
• 1:06:15
  swap. But we could have also given
• 1:06:16
  that to the fact that like, they've been putting The Time
• 1:06:19
  Machine in the bear. You know, let's give it some
• 1:06:22
  other sci-fi bullshit, like, oh, it caused waves that caused the
• 1:06:27
  body swapper, what the fuck ever.
• 1:06:29
  Yeah, it's a movie. You can explain it in 1000
• 1:06:31
  different ways. Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  I don't know. I didn't like that world ending
• 1:06:35
  thing. Like, what the fuck?
• 1:06:36
  Yeah. Like we have like a killer.
• 1:06:37
  It was just you're doing a slasher here.
• 1:06:40
  Why are we jumping to genres last second?
• 1:06:43
  What is happening? Yeah, OK.
• 1:06:45
  It's weird. Did we have any listener
• 1:06:49
  reviews? We did.
• 1:06:50
  OK, yay. Yeah, it's from Michael E
• 1:06:53
  Howard. OK, who says detention is so
• 1:06:55
  much fun? Though not an outright horror,
• 1:06:58
  it has elements of so many genres.
• 1:07:00
  I walk the 90s references were great since I graduated in 92.
• 1:07:04
  Took me back. I hadn't seen this one before,
• 1:07:06
  but we'll be revisiting again. 8 1/2 out of 10.
• 1:07:09
  OK nice. So.
• 1:07:11
  So you and I can talk about this movie.
• 1:07:13
  And I think it's cool that, like, you can put yourself in
• 1:07:16
  the exact year where the shit went down.
• 1:07:19
  Yeah, that's kind of cool. Yeah.
• 1:07:22
  You know, I, like I said, I'm, I'm glad that people do like
• 1:07:25
  this one. I, you know, I don't hate it.
• 1:07:28
  I would not, like, watch it again.
• 1:07:30
  I just don't know how much I would actually be paying
• 1:07:32
  attention if I watched it. I would TuneIn for the parts
• 1:07:34
  that I know I like. Yeah, I think that'd be it.
• 1:07:38
  I I like the stylisticness of it.
• 1:07:42
  I think that he could really fine tune this kind of thing.
• 1:07:46
  If he put some work to it I would definitely made it his.
• 1:07:49
  Own I would definitely watch another movie of his.
• 1:07:52
  I would watch a follow up movie to see if he like figured it
• 1:07:54
  out. Yeah, I just, and I know he said
• 1:07:56
  he's all about rhythm and tempo, but The thing is like, it's like
• 1:08:00
  a music video is 3 or 4 minutes long, you know, whereas this is
• 1:08:05
  90 minutes and you do have to have moments where it lets up.
• 1:08:08
  And I think maybe that's just like a like a newish director
• 1:08:11
  thing for. Yeah, I, I agree with that.
• 1:08:13
  Yeah. You gotta have that moment to
• 1:08:15
  just like, let people like, take it in.
• 1:08:17
  Yeah, like you can appreciate more like take out and it's, and
• 1:08:21
  this is the thing I'm, I'm gonna be fully honest, like I've been
• 1:08:24
  noticing more when I like cuz we take trends, editing the show,
• 1:08:28
  peek behind the curtain. I've been doing more and more of
• 1:08:33
  that. Like, do we really need to have
• 1:08:35
  this extra sentence? Like we're rehashing something
• 1:08:37
  that we've already said? And like, so just learning to
• 1:08:39
  cut things out 'cause like we're just two dudes with microphones.
• 1:08:45
  Like everything we say is not the most important thing in the
• 1:08:46
  world. You know what I mean?
• 1:08:47
  I'm like, and it's one of those things that you just kind of
• 1:08:51
  have to learn how to like edit yourself and realize that like
• 1:08:54
  everything you do on the first, second, maybe even third draft
• 1:08:58
  is not going to be pure gold. No, no, exactly.
• 1:09:00
  I am. Yeah, not much else to add to
• 1:09:04
  that. OK, I think we did it.
• 1:09:06
  I think we did go team. OK, so that is it for detention
• 1:09:11
  and next week is going to be another new movie for me.
• 1:09:14
  I'm sticking to it that this is a new I do not remember a single
• 1:09:17
  thing about detention. This one OK.
• 1:09:20
  And the next one is also new for me.
• 1:09:21
  Yeah, this is a new one for me too.
• 1:09:23
  It's called Night of the Creep. It's night, pig.
• 1:09:26
  Yep. It's Travis's pick.
• 1:09:28
  It, it looks like it's going to be a lot of fun, though.
• 1:09:31
  I've seen a lot about it. I think the most, the thing that
• 1:09:35
  sold me on it the most is when we were watching Fuck, what's
• 1:09:38
  that documentary on 80s horror movies, Into the Darkness?
• 1:09:42
  Yes, yeah, they, they had like a segment talking about this movie
• 1:09:46
  and it looked fun. It's got motherfucking Tom
• 1:09:51
  Atkins in it, so get your beers, everybody.
• 1:09:55
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• 1:09:58
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• 1:10:01
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• 1:10:07
  a fourth dollar. Percent in this yeah, you.
• 1:10:10
  Can rent it from Google Play, Fandango at home or Prime.
• 1:10:13
  Yeah, the Blu-ray, like it did just get a release I think like
• 1:10:16
  last month on 4K. But if you get like the cheap
• 1:10:20
  Blu-ray, it's like only 8 or $9. It's not that bad.
• 1:10:24
  OK. Yeah, which is what I'm gonna
• 1:10:26
  do. I'm just gonna buy the Blu-ray,
• 1:10:27
  OK? Why not?
• 1:10:29
  Wow, Travis buying a Blu-ray. Go figure.
• 1:10:31
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• 1:10:34
  something else with it, you know, we'll figure that part
• 1:10:37
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• 1:10:37
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• 1:10:39
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• 1:10:41
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