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Browns found their "gap" coach, Why McCarthy gets no respect, Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody, John Middlecock three
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  Speaker 1: and out podcast. Hopefully you guys are all doing well
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  Speaker 1: out there in the real world. Today we will talk
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  Speaker 1: some football. We're gonna do a big mail bag today.
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  Speaker 1: The majority of the podcast at John Middlecoff at John
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  Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram obviously questions on the Belichick situation.
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  Speaker 1: This is taken the nation by storm Bill, who has
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  Speaker 1: a lot of supporters out there in the world, fans
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  Speaker 1: his former quarterback, his former owner Jimmy Johnson is pissed,
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  Speaker 1: so some of you guys asked me questions about that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll piggyback on what we talked about yesterday. We'll probably
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  Speaker 1: start with the Browns hired a coach. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to say we didn't see it coming because he was
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  Speaker 1: one of the finalists. But some quick thoughts there and
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  Speaker 1: other than that, just a lot of mail bag at
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  Speaker 1: your middle coough fire in those d ms h in
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  Speaker 1: my Instagram. Just two f's even my a good buddy
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  Speaker 1: of mine actually invited me to his wedding, which he
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  Speaker 1: should have I he was in my wedding. He's one
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  Speaker 1: of my best friends. But he uh, he spelled my
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  Speaker 1: name with one F. So we just still keeps a
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  Speaker 1: little chip on your shoulder. It's got two f's, and
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  Speaker 1: just we'll talk some ball and well, uh, let's let's
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  Speaker 1: start with the situation, which I don't really have many thoughts. Besides,
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  Speaker 1: someone asked me yesterday on a mail bag question if
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  Speaker 1: teams do bridge coaches like bridge quarterbacks, and I do
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  Speaker 1: think that Todd Munkin would fall under that a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: He's basically sixty years old, he's been a head coach
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  Speaker 1: in college, but longtime coordinator. I don't think he was
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  Speaker 1: getting a job anywhere else. It does feel like Bushati
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  Speaker 1: was firing Harbad no matter what. But there were some
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  Speaker 1: initial conversations that he were going to refuse to fire
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  Speaker 1: him if that was going to enable him to keep
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  Speaker 1: his job, like be loyal to his coordinator. But this
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  Speaker 1: does feel a little bit Bridgie. You know, the top
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  Speaker 1: guys were not interested in the job. Obviously, the process
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  Speaker 1: of forcing guys to write essays in a vocation that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't rely on you to write essays to do your gig,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't quite understand that. I think the Browns reviewed
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  Speaker 1: as pretty toxic, and let's face they're not alone. Anyone
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  Speaker 1: want the cardinal job. So I think that situation is,
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  Speaker 1: let's just keep our head above water for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years, hopefully kind of restock this roster, find a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: and then kind of turn it over a little bit
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  Speaker 1: like Casario. Did you know The ironic part is both
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  Speaker 1: these two teams had Deshaun Watson the stink of that,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a chance that he's still around because they're
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  Speaker 1: just stuck with that contract. So the Casario had to
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  Speaker 1: hire Cully Lovey Smith and then finally got Demiko and
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  Speaker 1: maybe the Browns kind of have a mindset to do
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  Speaker 1: something like that. The differences is, I just think as
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  Speaker 1: long as they are kind of operating their coaching search
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  Speaker 1: the way they do, no one's touching it. It feels
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  Speaker 1: like more likely they're trying to hire a a university
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  Speaker 1: president than they are a football coach. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: trying to just bag on him because I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the easiest thing to do. But you know, I Todd Munkin,
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  Speaker 1: why not just hire Jim Schwartz, who you players already liked,
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  Speaker 1: You already knew, you clearly kind of liked. And now
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  Speaker 1: I think with Jim Schwartz, you know Kyle Shanahan, he's
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  Speaker 1: dominated him over the years. You know, I know there
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  Speaker 1: have been some talk about making Gus Bradley the candidate
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  Speaker 1: just because he worked for the staff. I would hire
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  Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz. If I'm Kyle Shanahan to replace Robert Saal,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hiring Jim Schwartz. I'm making him my defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: by the end of the day yesterday. So once he
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  Speaker 1: becomes available to me, keep an eye on that because
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  Speaker 1: I think Kyle Shanahan will go heavy, heavy on him,
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  Speaker 1: and then maybe Gus Bradley just follows solo and becomes
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  Speaker 1: his pseudo defensive coordinator, assuming that Saala is calling defense,
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  Speaker 1: which who knows. I haven't seen the press conference yet,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll dive into some questions now. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: questions about Bill, I'm sure, And there's a couple right
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  Speaker 1: off the bat. I talked about Shador yes day. The
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  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, the Pro Bowl hasn't mattered in a long time.
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  Speaker 1: So anyone asking me about the the importance or its credibility,
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  Speaker 1: like its credibility died years ago. The Pro Bowl died
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  Speaker 1: the moment they stopped tackling, which I always understood. But
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  Speaker 1: to me, what I'm here to say is schd or
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  Speaker 1: Anders making the Pro Bowl and now Belichick not being
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  Speaker 1: the first bout Hall of Fame? What are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: How embarrassing for the NFL? The two are not that
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  Speaker 1: they're not connected at all. The Pro Ball is a joke.
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  Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame should not be. And another question
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  Speaker 1: on Belichick came up short. Bill Belichick came up short
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  Speaker 1: on votes to be a first bout Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the criteria needed to vote on
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  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame? Is a drug? Test one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what I think. Bill Pollion, who originally was called
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  Speaker 1: you know, there was a story written that Bill Pollion
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  Speaker 1: led the charge that Bill Belichick had to pay a price,
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  Speaker 1: that he was not going to be a first bout
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer because of two thousand and seven. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: Poleon got rules changed. Is the way he defended the
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  Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Hates Bill mortal, enemies with Bill. And for
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  Speaker 1: those of you that don't know when I got in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, Pollion, this was like twenty ten, already had
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  Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with the Colts, had been to
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of the Bills, was one of the most
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  Speaker 1: famous gms in the history of the league. Besides like
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  Speaker 1: Al Davis and Jerry Jones. He would be right up
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  Speaker 1: there with like Ron Wolf. He was viewed internally in
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  Speaker 1: the league a lot like Bill, an angry, curmudgeon, asshole.
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  Speaker 1: And I say that with respect, Like I've grew up
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  Speaker 1: around a lot of kind of old school My dad
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  Speaker 1: was born in the forties. He grew up a lot
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  Speaker 1: round or he was, you know, around in his business
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  Speaker 1: farming a lot of old school assholes. And Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: and Polean would fall under that category, and I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: that with reverence of that human being that doesn't exist
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  Speaker 1: as much anymore. And historically and a lot of businesses
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  Speaker 1: you kind of had to be like that, or people
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  Speaker 1: thought they had to be like that, or they were
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  Speaker 1: just raised like that. And Belichick and Poleon have a
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  Speaker 1: lot more in common than I think either one would
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  Speaker 1: say about the other. You know, Poleon was not easy
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  Speaker 1: to work for. It was not like a fun, happy place,
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  Speaker 1: you know. The Green Bay Packers was always an organization
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  Speaker 1: at least what I was around football a lot in
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  Speaker 1: terms of working in the business, like with Ted Thompson,
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  Speaker 1: that just seemed like a great place to work for.
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  Speaker 1: That became the Chiefs with Andy and Veach, like that's
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  Speaker 1: just a place where people want to work. That was Napoleon.
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  Speaker 1: It would be good for your career, but it was dark, edgy,
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  Speaker 1: miserable place, a lot like New England. I've known a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that played and worked in New England
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  Speaker 1: as scouts, as some assistant coaches. It's not a happy place.
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  Speaker 1: It ain't a fun fucking environment. Most people would say
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  Speaker 1: it's completely miserable. Now it changes your life saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I work with Poleon and Peyton Manning. I work with
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  Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady. You went like a rocket ship, but
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  Speaker 1: you had to have thick skin and the ability to grind,
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  Speaker 1: and there weren't many smiles in that in that organization,
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  Speaker 1: in that operation. So to me, Bill Poleon hating Bill like, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge like. I don't have that many
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  Speaker 1: mortal enemies. There were some people in my younger days,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you would consider I hate it, but as
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  Speaker 1: you get older, like I'm not really wired like like
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  Speaker 1: Dave Portinoy. Some people are just wired that way and
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  Speaker 1: it keeps them going. I'm not. I can't kind of
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  Speaker 1: wallow in misery. I don't function at a high level
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  Speaker 1: when I'm like that. I'm much more I'm better off
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  Speaker 1: when I'm a little more optimistic. I would say Pollyon
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  Speaker 1: and Belichick are not. So I don't blame Poleon for
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  Speaker 1: hating Bill Belichick. You're allowed to do that. He ain't
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  Speaker 1: the first and he won't be the last guy to
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  Speaker 1: despise another individual in his industry who's gotten the better
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  Speaker 1: of him in a world is competitive, but the other
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  Speaker 1: people for him to convince, you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: the criteria Obviously there are a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 1: media writers. For them to agree with him is an embarrassment.
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  Speaker 1: So Bill Pollian, who clearly lied to the guy at
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  Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated that he tweeted out like I talked to him,
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  Speaker 1: he said he voted for him, and then like Wickersham
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  Speaker 1: and the ESPN guy's followed up, He's like, I think
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  Speaker 1: I voted for him. It's like, bro, are you like
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  Speaker 1: a ten year old? Any guy could be like, that's
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  Speaker 1: a lie. It's like you know when your parents are
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  Speaker 1: on you when you're young and you kind of get
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  Speaker 1: caught like I think I did it. No, you know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what you did and you didn'tvote for him, which, listen,
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  Speaker 1: that's on you. But for the other people to fall
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  Speaker 1: suit that the sheep herd mentality is an embarrassment for
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  Speaker 1: the league. And I think it's pretty rare where everyone
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  Speaker 1: players in the league, former players, Jimmy Johnson, I was
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  Speaker 1: at the gym earlier today. I saw he's all McAfee
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  Speaker 1: and Colin just he's pissed because Jimmy is boys with Bill.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's an embarrassment for football. If Bill Belichick is
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  Speaker 1: in the first ballot Hall of Fame, or just shut
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  Speaker 1: down the fucking Hall of Fame. Just shut it down.
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  Speaker 1: But we can hate him, we can say stealing signs.
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  Speaker 1: When I was a pro scout in the early twenty tens,
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  Speaker 1: people were stealing signs like signed out. Did he take
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  Speaker 1: it to another level with the guy on the ground floor. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like, welcome to competitive industries. People are always
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  Speaker 1: pushing the envelope. As Peter Goober says that Ethan Strauss,
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  Speaker 1: my guy on substack, one of the best substackers, quotes
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  Speaker 1: them all the time. There are no rules, but break
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  Speaker 1: them at your own peril. And I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: way it most industries where there's a lot on the
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  Speaker 1: line and a lot of competition, operate. And Bill pushed
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  Speaker 1: the envelope, right, He pushed the envelope and he got caught.
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  Speaker 1: But didn't this team rat al off a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: victories after that happened and make it the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: and beat the shit out of everybody. We all watch anyone
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  Speaker 1: that is I would say thirty five, forty or older
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  Speaker 1: that watched the majority of the games of the Bill
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  Speaker 1: Brady Dynasty, especially the big ones which were all primetime games.
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  Speaker 1: He's the best coach I've ever seen, and I worked
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  Speaker 1: for Andy Reid, who I would put right there behind him,
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  Speaker 1: but it is it's hard to dispute, like he needed
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  Speaker 1: to win with Brady Well. Andy, be the first tell
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  Speaker 1: you I won a lot more with Patrick than I
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  Speaker 1: did with Alex and McNabb. You know, Bill waltsh doesn't
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  Speaker 1: exist without a guy named Joe Montana. I hate this, like,
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: well he had Brady Well. It's like Google, Phil Jackson said,
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: Michael and Kobe, Like most great coaches have great players.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty rare. It's like, you know, Eric Spolster is
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  Speaker 1: a great coach, won a lot more with Lebron and
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  Speaker 1: d Wade then he'd with this crew of characters. So
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: it's like, you gotta be a great coach. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: Joe Torry won a lot with Hall of AMers, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it comes with the territory. So there's no
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  Speaker 1: way around it than just universal disdain. Now for this process,
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  Speaker 1: I've thought for a long time that I think we
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  Speaker 1: have diluted the people in the Hall of Fame from
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  Speaker 1: players and some of these coaches that got in that
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  Speaker 1: I no longer look at it the same. But after
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  Speaker 1: this moment. I mean it's it's not quite the Pro
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  Speaker 1: Bowl level. I mean the Pro Bowl guys just quit.
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  Speaker 1: This does feel like I don't take it seriously anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm also not a huge awards guy. I never
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  Speaker 1: have been. I saw the Golden Globes did like a
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  Speaker 1: Best Podcast award. Joe Rogan wasn't even on it. It's like, guys,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: you don't need to like him, but there is no
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  Speaker 1: disputing he's a fucking king right now. Right Taylor Sheridan,
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  Speaker 1: who's got all the biggest television shows that did Paramount
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  Speaker 1: just give him, or Warrener Brothers whoever just gave him
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  Speaker 1: a billion dollars to write shows for He's the king
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  Speaker 1: of t right now. None of his shows were up
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: for awards. It's like, guys, but I'm not like awards.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: I saw Big Cat raining about this about podcasts, Like
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: part of podcast is there's a little counterculture, like this
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  Speaker 1: is not mainstream legacy media, right, So it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we don't want awards. Who cares about it? Ward they're meaningless.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever I see someone being interviewed with like an Emmy
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: in the background, It's like, guys, no one cares Coward's
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  Speaker 1: been on this ran forever. It's typically people inside baseball
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  Speaker 1: voting on these things, whether it's Hollywood, whether it's football,
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  Speaker 1: And there are certain people like Brady Manning. You can't
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  Speaker 1: if you have to think about it for Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: To me, you're not in it. And that's why I've
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: always been like the Deon Sanders, the Barry Sanders, the
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylors, the Tom Brady's, the Peyton Mannings, the Aaron Rodgers,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: the Bill Belichick's, the Bill Walshes, Andy Reeves. No one
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  Speaker 1: thinks about you make It's like who's the best golf
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Tiger Woods? You know what I'm saying. Michael Jordan, you
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  Speaker 1: know thinks there are certain It's like, well, I think
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  Speaker 1: this guy's resume that there is no resume. With Bill,
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  Speaker 1: he's in, but for these idiots, he's clearly not. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's done a lot of harm to the
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame that I can no longer look at
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: the same. Speaking of coaches, Mike McCarthy, why does everyone
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: shit on Mike McCarthy, yet John Harbaugh is treated like
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  Speaker 1: the savior. If you compare resumes, it's pretty similar. One
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl piece coach. Good quarterbacks like Rogers and Lamar
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  Speaker 1: in their primes lost to playoff games they probably should
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  Speaker 1: have won. I just don't understand why he's talked about
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  Speaker 1: like he's under the bridge troll. I've been saying this
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  Speaker 1: for a while, man, I really have. He has a
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  Speaker 1: branding issue. His resume is the same as Tomlin and Harball.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. And you could argue in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: six his skill is more important than their skills because
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: the one thing, and I had a buddy that he's
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  Speaker 1: on a different staff now but kind of got into
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: the NFL. He'd been a longtime college coach and was
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: on the Ravens for a couple of years. Two things
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  Speaker 1: he always told me, and this is like in the
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  Speaker 1: peak of their powers with Mike McDonald Lamar winning MVPs.
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  Speaker 1: He called Mike McDonald the boy genius he's He loved
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. This was an offensive coach, and he loved
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: John Harball. He said, John Harbaugh's ability to rally the
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  Speaker 1: team the team meetings was just second to none. It
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  Speaker 1: was elite, and Tomlin obviously falls under that category. So
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  Speaker 1: their ability to lead the group is just top notch.
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  Speaker 1: Ten out of ten right, and like there's no one
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  Speaker 1: even bringing like that's that's their defining skill, rally the
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  Speaker 1: troops into battle. Mike's skill really is coaching the quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: coaching the offense, which never has mattered. More like some
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: of like Sean mcvay's a great leader, but like, how
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: many is some of these offensive guys like is Kyle
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  Speaker 1: Shanahan or Lafleur or Kevin O'Connell viewed as like Vince Lombardi. No,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: there's good offensive minds, and Mike McCarthy is too, but
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: he has this branding issue that he's I listen, I
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  Speaker 1: don't agree with this, but people it's like people think
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  Speaker 1: he's dumb. Clearly he's really overweight, which I was. I'm
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: no one to judge. My weight fluctuates on about an
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: eighteen hour fast. Right now, I'm starving, but I just
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be a fat ass anymore. And like
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: you watch him in that press conversation's big And that's
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  Speaker 1: the one thing like John Harbaugh's great shape at sixty three,
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  Speaker 1: Tomlin's kind of looked Toma's throwing a little weight over
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  Speaker 1: the years, but he's kind of looked the same for
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like a decade plus, macarthy's
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  Speaker 1: got gotten bigger as he's gotten older, which is weird.
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  Speaker 1: Like Andy, I don't know. Andy's known as a genius
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  Speaker 1: and McCarthy's known as dumb. And there's a branding issue,
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  Speaker 1: which I disagree with because I'm with you. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there's any difference. If you tell me in a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years the Steelers are good and they found
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback, I would not I would be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I could see that. Now. I don't think Harbor. I
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  Speaker 1: think Harbor and the Giants are gonna be good too.
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  Speaker 1: Like Harbor's good, Tomlin's good, like Mike McCarthy's good. But
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: those three, like two of them get talked about like
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: equals Tomlin and John. And then there's Mike. He's talked
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  Speaker 1: about in a weird way like he's Freddie Kitchens or
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Jim tom Sulla, which I think he'd tell you. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Jerry and the Rooney don't believe that because they've hired me.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I've coached the Packers, the Steelers and the Cowboys, so yeah,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you can think Liam Cohens some genius. He's got to
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  Speaker 1: coach the Jacks. I'm coaching the Steelers, which have probably
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  Speaker 1: in the league. There's definitely not five teams in the
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  Speaker 1: league with a more fans, and I mean actual humans
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  Speaker 1: that root for your team. They're probably a top three
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  Speaker 1: back as the lead scout for the Titans. You know
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I got married in Nashville, and uh, if life goes well,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: we would we would love to have a little property
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: there one day. I love Nashville a little cold in
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the winters for me, summers are actually pretty hot. But I
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  Speaker 1: just there's something about you know. I grew up in Davis, California.
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  Speaker 1: My dad was a farmer in the Sacramento area, which
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  Speaker 1: is much more expanded now, but just a lot of land,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of space. I mean, I didn't live on
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  Speaker 1: a lot of land, but I'm just saying there was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Like we I got drunk in high
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: school out on you know, acres of land on farmland.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: It was you know, it used to be like a cowtown.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Now it's it's a little different now. It's actually kind
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: of become like Berkeley, more like hippieville. But I uh,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: there's something special I think about Tennessee. Now, my this
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  Speaker 1: is what I'm doing now. Those days are over. But
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I love it, I really do. And I'm a I'm
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: rooting for Robert Sala you know, day ball. I think
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: thrived as an offensive coordinator with Josh can do the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: same with cam Ward. I think the jury's out on
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: cam a little bit. And I do think the jury's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: out too on Sala as a head coach, like can
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: he operate? Now? The the expectations going to Tennessee are
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: a little different in New York, which which helps a ton.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm rooting for those guys. Borganzi, who my guys
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City love, seems like a high level guy.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I just that that owner is just people aren't a
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: huge fan. So we'll see. Can they overcome it. Time
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: will tell. But the end division's hard, but it's a
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: great place to live. Find me anyone that lives in
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Nashville that doesn't like it. You'd be hard pressed because
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really exist. A question for the back Joe
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Brady question mark the Bills hired Joe Brady, and I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: can't help but wonder if a first time head coach
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: is the right move for Josh prime of his career,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna go with a first time head coach.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I would have preferred someone like day Ball, who at
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: least has experience. It's pretty risky. It's pretty risky, but
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: sometimes in life you gotta take risks, and people have
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: done it before. I mean, I'm not saying he's gonna
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: be Steve Kerr, but Steve Kurr had never been a
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: coach when the Warriors hired him with Steph Curry and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Clay Thompson and Draymond Green, and it's the best thing
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: they've ever done because they started winning championships. So and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: obviously Land and Kevin Durant, which he played a big
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: role in. He had never been a coach at any level.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And you know this is not apples to apples, but
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay was hired at thirty. Do you think the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Rams regretted that? And it's not like he had just
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: come off a season the Commanders, they were the Redskins
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the time, didn't even make the playoffs. So you never know.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: That's the hard part about coaching. It's a little like
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the draft. There's gonna be someone this year draft in
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: like the third round that in two years will be like,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: so I got the best player in the league. It
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: happened with the Rams and Pookinnico. When when the Rams
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: drafted Pokin Nkua, there is not a soul that follows
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: college football that went like, this guy's gonna be like
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Jerry Rice right, and then a couple of years later
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: he's the best wide receiver in the league. Or one
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: of them. So it happens all the time with coaches.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I saw. I looked up this morning and McAfee it's
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: on like the main TV at the gym, put all
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the pictures of the different coaches that have been hired,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and it happens all the time. Is there're gonna be
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you know, some of these riders got to put out
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: like grade the coaching hires A C F B plus
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: no one knows. No one has any freaking clue. So
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I just think that they felt comfortable with them. Josh
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: felt comfortable with them. Now the pressure is immense. I mean,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I would say none of these coaches. If you just
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: do a pressure rankings going into twenty twenty six, he
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: could be one. The pressure on Joe Brady to win
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: could be one. Think about that, FYI. I was about
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: to give up my Netflix podcast Loop because I couldn't
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: minimize the window and multitask on my phone. Then I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: accidentally swipe sideways and it totally allows users to do that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I've been saying this for a while. You can swipe
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and it just goes up and you can just close
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: it and listen to it in your pocket. I did
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it a couple weeks ago on the Spit and Chicklets
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady Interview. So it's it's consumer friendly. We like
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: putting podcasts on our phone, walking around doing stuff. I
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: do it all the time. You can do so you
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: can minimize it on Netflix like you can on the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: other applications. God, I'm a great partner for the mailbag.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: My wife is pregnant and having a planned C section.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: On any tips for dads on what to expect, how
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to help your wife beside the obvious things like being present,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: handy and ready to help. Any pro tips or advice
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: on things of how to prepare for immediately, during and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: after when getting back home. I would say, when you're there,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you know, we pack snacks and bedding and stuff like that,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: which I'm sure you're doing. The doctor's run point on
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the on the situation, you really don't do much. You
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: kind of stand there, You give support so that there's
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: not much advice to give beside that, and then once
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the baby's out, they have to stitch your back and
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you kind of get to hold the baby. It is
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. It's you kind of got
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you just got to hold it together. You got to
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: be strong, which is crazy when you watch how strong
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: they're being as their guts are cut open. It's intense.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: And even when you're at the hospital, the nurses and
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: people are coming in every couple hours. So the amount
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and the way my hospital works, I could walk right
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: down to kind of their little conference area if you
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: ever have questions, they'll come right down and help you out.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: So the help you get in the first two days
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: is pretty insane. Now, make sure you know how to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: use the car seat, the car seats led because when
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you leave, they don't help you with that, so you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: put the baby in the car seat and then you
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: just take off. So we were very lucky. My mother
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: in law stayed with us for like ten plus days
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and it helped a lot. But it's it's pretty intense.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I mean you come home, it's just like it's on
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you. You know. I'm two weeks in now it's become a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: lot easier. My guy Jack, we call him the Jack attack.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It's when he goes that takes a shit or pisses,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and that happens a lot, but it gets a little easier.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: The hardest part is you got to feed him every
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: couple hours for you know, months on end. So that
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you're sleep is just like you have to if you
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: feed him at eight o'clock at night, you gotta feed
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: him at eleven. Then you gotta feed him again at
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: two or three in the morning. So that to me
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: like he'll go to sleep. But it's just you do
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: have to wake them up usually change the diaper and
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: then and then feed them. But there's not much there's
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: not much advice to have besides just check in on her,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: how she's doing. It's it's the emotions run high. You know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the hormones are pretty crazy. Uh, you just gotta you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: people tell you patience with the child. I would say
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: patience with her as well. You know this, it's it's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a pretty traumatic experience and then a come down on
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: your body. So just try to be I mean, there
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: are gonna be times and listen, I've had to really
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: kind of just take a deep breath. Be extra nice.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I would say that, be extra nice because they're they're
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: going through a lot, uh physically, hormonally and uh something
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that you might normally argue about were human beings. Just
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you let things go. Just just don't even just smile
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: on your face and keep chugging. That would probably be
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: my best advice. What do you think of Philip Rivers'
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: potential as a head coach seeing the success of Rabel,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I think Rivers could be a future head coach if
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the Colts stiching doesn't work out, and maybe he knows that,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: maybe he thinks that he will be the next head
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: coach Shavee Sikins's guy. I do wonder if he kind
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of got win like, we're probably not gonna hire you.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I also wonder if there's a chance, I know his son.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a senior gunner Rivers, which
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: is an incredible name. Would he take an offensive coordinator job?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I mean offensive coordinator jobs pay millions of dollars, so
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and I know Phillips made a lot of money, but
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: someone offers you three years, ten million dollars to be
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator. If Philip Rivers had a good season
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator, he would interview every single place.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: He would get hired immediately. My guess is Philip Rivers
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: is a head coach in the next five years, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I would say there's a fifty to fifty chance if
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it feels comfortable enough with a spot, wouldn't shock me
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: at all. If he became an NFL offensive coordinator, he
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: might be able to skip the step though, and become
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a head coach, which I think he would be kind
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: of uniquely equipped to handle being the quarterback handling the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: whole team calling the offense. It still would be challenge.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: If he asked me for advice, I would just say,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think if you feel comfortable with the spot,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think doing the being an offensive coordinator for
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a year one is twofold, Like do you really want
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to do this at the NFL level? Like are you
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: cool with the You put in a lot of hours
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: as a player, there's a lot more hours as a coach.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So it's a really kind of a way to wet
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: your beak. See if like you're cool with doing that
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: with your family and cause, if you are, then just
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: go all in. You'll be a head coach. I think
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: he'd be good. If you told me Philip Rivers became
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: a head coach, my bet would on him be good
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: at the gig. What are your thoughts on Kopka coming
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: back to the PGA and do you think the plan
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: they have in place is to make former live guys
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: pay their way back on. I think it's great for
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the game and expect more guys to come back. We
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: go low will probably start after the super Bowl. There's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a lot going on. Kepka's back. Patrick Reid just announced
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to Heay he's coming back. They desperately want Bryson to
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: come back and Live. We did business with Live last
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: year and I went to it in person. It's really cool,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: but I do like no one cares so they're playing.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: All these guys got a ton of money, They made
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a ton which they took a huge risk, and they
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: got shipped on for so I never had a problem
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: with like letting him back on. It's like, well, they
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: get to have their cake and eat it too. Well,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you could have too that they made a tough decision. Now,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: some of the guys that sued the PGA tour, I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: totally understand. But Kepka didn't, Patrick Reid didn't, Phil did.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Phil's never coming back. Dustin Johnson doesn't care. I was thinking,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Kepka's won nine times in his career, five of those
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: were majors, So it's not that you're not getting back
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson in this twenty career wins. This guy didn't
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: win that much. He famously said that he didn't really
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: care about regular events. But watch this press conference yesterday.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I do think becoming a dad, some of your priorities
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: obviously financially set. Now. I wonder if we get a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: new version of him taking these events more seriously. Next week,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: when I'm in San Francisco, waste management will be going
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: on in my backyard, so you can see TBC Scottsdale.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: For those of you watching, He's won that event twice,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: so two of his four wins in regular events have
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: come here. He's a bright lights guy. I would imagine
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: if he's playing well, which we'll find out this week,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and Tory he looks good to me. They get Bryson
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: coming back, lives over like it ends, and then Ron
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: eventually comes back. I think liv is clearly teetering a
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: little bit. There's no doubt about it, because at the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: end of the day, the reason a lot of these
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: startup leagues in other sports. We've seen it happen in football,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know, basketball, Lebron thought about going to Saudi Arabia. One.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Our attention spans have never been shorter, and it's hard
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to get us into something if we don't think it matters,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and like why do PGA tournaments matter? Like why does
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: it matter playing at the players or the waste management?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Because there's history. Why does winning the second round of
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the playoff for Josh Allen matter? Because we've watched a
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: million playoff games, we have context. When you just start
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: a league, it doesn't feel like it matters at all.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And I listen. I give Adam Silver credit for trying things,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: but like it's hard for the casual consumer to take
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the NBA Cup seriously because I go, why does this matter?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: And no one can answer that. For me, it's like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: well they do it international soccer. Well how long have
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: they been doing those type cups? And I'm not a
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: soccer guy, but I would guess a long time. So
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you could argue that you got to start somewhere. True,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: but it's just difficult and this notion like golf's an
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: individual sport. I went to the Ryder Cup this year.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. Kind of feels right to have it
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: like once or twice a year. No one cares about
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the team. People want to watch individuals. I want to
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: watch Scotti Scheffler try to win every week. You following
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the Big Jay's are saying about the Washington Post, there
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: cannot be that many people getting their sports news from
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: physical newspaper just complain to complain. Question is what percent
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: of sports news content comes from the written newspaper today.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I'm incredibly saddened about what is happening at the Washington Post.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Going back to my time at the Baltimore Sun, I've
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: admired and advised the postwriters, and not just in sports
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: bezos destruction, Ken Rosenthal, I think one problem legacy media
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: has had is they've taken on some of them. I mean,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people quote unquote legacy media,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and I think they're really good at their job, and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I consume them and I enjoy them. But I think
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: one fall of legacy media has been a self importance.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I ever not thought that like I do this, this,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: none of this exists. If I don't, people don't like
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: me and find me entertaining and consume my product. The
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: most important part about my operation is the people listening,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and luckily we've grown dramatically as an audio podcast over
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the last six seven years. Right, But like, without my consumer,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I'm nothing. So whether I was on the radio, whether
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a podcaster, whether whatever, I do like the consumer
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: has to come first and if they change, and I
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: have to try to adapt to them. And you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: people got mad over the move to Netflix, but like,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I'm betting on at working and if it doesn't, will adapt.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: But I'm I'm all in because I saw the vision.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I was sold, Like, Okay, how many people on Netflix?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Oh a lot? What percentage of people that are in
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: my audience? Oh? High number. So it's like it's about
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: them and newspapers. I'm a diard sports guy forty years old.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I grew up on newspapers. I haven't read a newspaper
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: beside the Wall Street Journal, which I pay for in
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a decade plus, I pay for none of them. The
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Athletic I pay for, which is technically owned by the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: New York Times, but I don't view that as a newspaper.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: So these people getting mad, like Ken Rosenthal, it's like bro.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Newspapers didn't die yesterday when Bezos cut out the sports section.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: They died ten fifteen years ago. Remember when everyone in
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the media got really mad, like in the mid twenty tens,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: when it's like we're going to video and they're like, no,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: we're going where the consumer is because We're in the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: business of the consumer, not of your content. The content
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: matters because people will consume. I read newspapers in college
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and four because that's the only place
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I could get my information. Now I have choices, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I choose not to read them. So the consumer killed them,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: not Jeff Bezos. And I've never read the Washington Post
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: in my life, but just because it's not like I've
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: ever lived there. I didn't care about the teams. But
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: when I see reactions like that, I go, you're getting
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: mad at the wrong guy. The person that killed the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: sports section was not Jeff Bezos. It was John Middlcoff
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: that lives in Washington, DC, or grew up in Washington,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: d C. And now lives in Texas, that read the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Washington Post the first twenty five years of his life
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: and now doesn't because one he doesn't think the product's
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: any good and two he's got a million other options.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: He consumes other stuff. The consumer changed and you didn't
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: adapt fast enough, and you got obliterated. Welcome to the
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: real world. What happened to Blockbuster? You ever heard the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: story of Netflix trying to sell to Blockbuster? And they
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: laughed at him. How'd that work out? Newspapers had a
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: head start. They have the consumer, and they got fat happy.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: And let's face it, a lot of people, a lot
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: of people in the media world don't understand business and
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: in a weird way, resent it. If you resent business,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and honestly, if you resent money, you're probably not gonna
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: make it. I believe that to my soul. And I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: think when you resent it, you resent the way the
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: world works, which is he gotta think about the consumer.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I just read this article the other day. I had
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: a buddy named Scotty that works in southern California and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: he's now working for a big bank down there, but
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: he loves golf. And he was caddying a little at
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the side at this huge country club in Newport Beach
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and he caddied for this guy. He's like, I just
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: caddied for the CEO of Chipotle. He's like, here's what
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I would say about him, spent eighteen holes with him
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: carrying his bag. I would bet on that guy. He
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: was just blew me away. And then like a year later,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the guy gets hired at Starbucks and I'm reading this
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: article about Starbucks how he's attempting to change all these things,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and who knows if it'll work. But it's like he
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: had to adapt because Starbucks was getting crushed and it
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: still kind of is. I mean, they were overpriced, but
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: he's making subtle changes. There's a long article in the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal about it, and it's like, if you
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: don't adapt and then you complain about it, like you're
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: a fucking loser. I hate people to just we all complain,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: we're human beings. But if you just complain over and
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: if you complain about something today January twenty eight, twenty
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: twenty six, and you're complaining about the same thing five
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: years later, like that's a U problem. And it feels
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: like these newspaper guys have been complaining about this shit
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: for a decade plus. It's like, guys, move on adapt,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Ken Roosevelt, you're on TV now? Why because you're written
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: world became irrelevant? What are we talking about? As someone
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: that grew up on sports sections, I'm embarrassed for these guys,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: but honestly not shocked because most of them don't get it.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: The ones that did pivoted No Problem, pivoted No problem,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: have have substacks or wrote for different startups or got
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: into the audio. You know, who know, people, what are
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you gonna be doing five years? I don't know. The
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: world changes rapidly now, and if I got to adapt,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I gotta adapt or else this thing will die. It's
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: really that simple. I've invested. This is my baby, this
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: is my life, this is my profession. This is the
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: only company that I have ownership in, is my own podcast.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: You know. Besides, like some stocks and uh, I have
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to do whatever it takes to make it survive. Not
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be right on every decision, but I will never
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: ever go down like this is the only way to
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: do it. And in a decade, still complaining about the
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: same things. I think you're a loser and you deserve
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to lose in business, because historically people that lose in
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: business complain about the same things for decades. And I've
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: been around a lot of farmers. They can be really angry.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Some of them go down because they're still bitching and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: own about the same things twenty years later. It's like, guys, adapt,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Do assistant coaches have to be vetted by HR go
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: through an interview process, check references, et cetera. Or does
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the head coach have enough used to simply hire with
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: no questions asked. I think it depends. I think if
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: you fall into the category of ben like d Wi's
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: obviously any police activity, you definitely get vetted that there
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: is a vetting scenario. But some guys, like, if you've
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: never been in any trouble, what's there really to vet?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: And the coach is vouching for you, that's enough. But
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: if you have a history, like if you had a
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: domestic violence thing in your past or something like that, yeah,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: it's definitely gonna come up and they're gonna have information
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: on it. But most coaches, right, if I'm John Harbaugh
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm bringing over people from the Ravens, like they've
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: already been vetted, you trust them, you're good. Or Mike
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: McCarthy like you have a long history with guys. But
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: then there are some guys that yeah, I mean, I
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: bet every individual is a little different. But you get
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to the point like is there vetting to go like
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: off the field on Jim Schwartz, Like, if Kyle Shanahan
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: wants to hire Jim Schwartz, does he need to vet
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: been hired by all these teams over the last couple decades,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So I think it's probably more younger coaches or individuals
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: if they've had issues. Everyone loves talking about rookie contract.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: So I went and looked who has won a super
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Bowl with a rookie contract. Here's the list. Brady Roethlisberger,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Eli Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, Carson Wentz hurt midseason, So
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: it appears that isn't a rookie contract. It's finding a
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback on a rookie contract. I'll grant
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you Eli and Wilson might be borderline, but they're close.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I think it's really really hard to win a super
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Bowl without a really good team. So to me, a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: huge element of winning the Super Bowl it's like you
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: gotta have a good, well rounded team. So if you
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: have a Josh Allen situation, like is your defense good enough?
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: He didn't play well, But like I think part of
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: it is like their team's not quite good enough, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: if it's not, he has to dominate, and he didn't.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: You know, Mahomes, they had those couple of years in
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty three's team or even last year
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: when they made the Super Bowl, teams weren't quite as good,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: but he played pretty full in big spots. So if
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have a high priced quarterback, you either gotta
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: nail some draft picks or have that quarterback play at
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: like top two or three level. Right look at Seattle.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: They have one of the best teams in the league,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: and their quarterback in the NFC Championship just threw three touchdowns,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: no interceptions in three hundred fifty yards. Sometimes life isn't fair.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Are Niners face Mahomes twice in the Super Bowl? Meanwhile
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Seahawks get a face and unproven pass team with a
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: mediocre line. Beside getting healthy, what do you think the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Niners need to finally get over the hump? I saw
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: my guy, Dante Whitner say this, like, to me, the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: number one thing this offseason. They gotta stay healthy. I
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: don't know what that means. I don't know if it's
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: removing substations. I don't know if it's changing doctors. But
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: if no healthy players, no chance. It's the foot ball.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get some guys injured. But the amount of
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: injuries is not a sustainable fact. They will never win
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The amount of injuries they've had the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: majority of these seasons, That to me is the most
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: important thing. Clearly, the offseason got to make some smart
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: moves improve, But none of that matters. If Kittle, I
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Fred Warner, if Nick Bosa. Think about that, Nick Moussa
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: makes thirty million dollars a year, Kit'll make Kittle and
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Warner make twenty each. Seattle fan looking forward to the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, it's gotta be a great feeling. It's well,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I when the Niners making Super Bowl get
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: pretty excited, even though I've actually bet against them, and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: actually I bet on them against the Chiefs and I lost.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I bet on him twice actually and lost both times.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm never doing that again. But if you are
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a Seattle fan, I think part of making a Super
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Bowl too. And the Patriots fall under this a little
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: bit when it's unexpected, Like if you're the Chiefs, it's
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: like the Chief's invitational, right, if you're even the Eagles,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: like this year, they just as soon they were going
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: back no One in Seattle like, oh, we think it
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: would be pretty good. And now you're in the Super Bowl.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: You just beat the Rams in McVeigh. It's got to
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: be really sweet for Seattle. Actually, it's like, yeah, how'd
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: you get to the Super Bowl? Oh, we just beat
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shana and Sean McVay in Seattle. That's pretty sweet.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: There's no disputio. That's that's pretty badass. Do we need
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: to fully abolish the Pro Bowl? It's been abolished. Whatever
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: is going on is not I don't watch, most of
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: you don't watch. It still gets a couple of million people,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: whatever the situation is, which is more than all the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: other sports. So that's why it's not gonna die. But
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: this we need to rename it the uh the Super
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Bowl games. I don't know, uh, the I don't even
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: know what you call it, but stop calling it the
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl because it no longer is. Just call it
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: something else. And I don't think they will rebrand because
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: it gets highballs. Would love to hear your opinion on
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: him now, Josh Allen's guy, So this was a question.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Just realize Joe Brady, what are your NFL buddy's opinions
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: on him as a coach. Haven't heard much hype since
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the National Championship days. I will say this about Joe
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Brady is Cook has become a star under his watch.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: So philosophically like he does believe in running the ball
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and utilizing the running back, and clearly because of their personnel,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: they have utilized the tight ends as well. I enjoy
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: watching him call an offensive game. It's not his fault
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: that Dalvin or not Dalvin James, Dalvin's brother cousin fumbles
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a lot, Like that's not his fault or you know,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: he didn't draft Keon Coleman, who I actually think Keon
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Coleman should be excited for this decision. But I think
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Joe Brady's been good being a head coach. That was
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: a lot different than as being the coordinator. So now
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: he has set the tone for the defense he has
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: to set to him for the team. He has to
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: set the tone for practice. That to me is the
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: only quest. Like just Joe Brady calling offensive plays? Clearly fine,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: they look how good they've been an offense since he's
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: been there. I that's not my worry now, Like who's
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: running the operation? Jim Leonard? A lot of rumors about
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: him being the defensive coordinator. Like those are two pretty
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: hot shot names, Joe Brady Jim Leonard. If you tell
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: me Jim Leonards calling the D, he's calling the O.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty good coordinator situation. But like handling the
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: team because even though the GM has a ton of juice,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: like the GM talks the team every week. Broncos fan
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: here was at the championship game and as one of
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the seventy six screaming, faithful, freezing our collective asses off
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: for a proud franchise. This goes down as one of
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the what if games and missed opportunity seasons. With the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: athleticism of Bo the Broncos win that game. The season
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: falls with ninety six, five, twelve, thirteen, and fourteen Broncos
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: teams over the last thirty years. IGACYE of this game
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: will be the one iconic sliding doors moment for the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: NFL and this franchise based on bow plate or not ps.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: While I'm planning on sitting out watching the Super Bowl
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: as I lick my wounds, can we get some go
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: lo podcasts? We will? I just I just had a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: limited amount of time to keep grinding these podcasts. I
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: just I've watched the I watched last week golf tournament
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: with Jack in my arms, but and I plan on
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: watching this tournament as well. Might even throw a little
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: money on like Homa cam Young. But Sean Payton said
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: yesterday that the doctor said that this was inevitable, that
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: there was some predisposed condition I guess to the bone.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: So while it sucks that he got injured, it's better
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to have this injury happen now and fix this problem
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: assuming you can, than have it be an issue moving
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: forward and you guys are gonna be good next year.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it sucks, and I think it just shows you.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I think people just are so tired of being blied
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: to and being just told like something is true when
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: it's not true. Like it's just especially over the last
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: five years. I mean, it's like Jesus Christ, like we
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: have eyes and ears, like we know what's going on,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: like we know what if Fugazi is. And when Sean
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Payton tried to sell us Jared Stidham, it's like, Sean,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: come on, bro, this is the AFC Championship game. You're
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: not gonna win the game with Jared Stidham. And what happened.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: The guy fucking melted, which I don't even blame him.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not even blaming Jared Stidham. But don't convince me
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: that Jared Didham is gonna be like some savior for
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: your franchise. Give me a break. A longtime listener and
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: knew Dad as well. I was just listening to the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: last podcast and you talked about Mike falling onto falling
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: onto the Patriots after exiting the Titans and coaching with
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Cleveland for a year. It blows my mind that he
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: coached with the Browns under Stefans Gain a year later
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: than the Super Bowl, Like the Browns had him on
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: staff and didn't do anything with him. I'm a Browns
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: fan and I just can't with them anymore. I agree, Bro,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: he's Ohio guy too, and he wasn't coaching the Browns.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things. Hey, I sometimes
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: we don't pick. You know, you're just kind of born
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: into it. Like if you're just born into being a
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: fan of tam X and that team is the Jets
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of the Browns, it sucks and football so popular and
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: so many people care, and it's like, how is this possible?
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: How is this? And it's one thing if you're like
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: a forty year old guy and you're like a USC
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: fan right now, it's like you still have the two
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: thousands and if just it goes semi well, It's not
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: that I would say much of an uphill battle to
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: at least just get back in the playoffs. But you've
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: had great times. You got to live through the Pete
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Carroll era, right, But then there's just like Browns like
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: what was our era? Like what was What do I have?
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: If I'm a fifty year old fan over the last
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: twenty five like, what do I go back to? This sucks?
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, it does. Congrats on the baby.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I'm also a new dad. We have a strong contingent
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: of men in their thirties. That's why advertisers like this.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Men in their thirties high h ai hhi, which would
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: be household income. We do well. We have a high
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: level consumers, that's for sure. A lot of new fathers
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: out there hopefully doing well. It's a grind, bro. I
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: haven't seen anyone place any blame on Stafford for the
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: loss on Sunday, particularly because he had the ball in
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the final two minutes of the first half. At the time,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the Rams were three points up and they ended the
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: half four points behind Ben He couldn't get it done
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: on the two goal line attempts. Obviously, the fumble is bad,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: but Stafford had chances to make up for it. The
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: goal line attempts. I put more in with Vey. I
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: thought those plays he just didn't work. I think he'd
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: be the first to tell you they were just bad
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: at play goals. Now, you could argue that Stafford has
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: to force feed it to either Nikua on DeVante on
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: one of those two, which I would agree, But I
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: think there's got to be and I don't pretend to
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: be Joe Brady here or Andy Reid or Davis Webb,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: who fucking everyone's just given a reach around to that
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: who might be a good coach, But holy moly, the
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: guy's been coaching for like three years. He's Sean McVay.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay coached for like a decade before he got hired,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: had worked for John Gruden, Mike Shanahan and Jay Gruden.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Like had a lot of experience as a young coach.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to hate on Davis Webb seems
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: like an impressive guy. I remember watching Macow. I'm not
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: anti him, but this notion that like you can just
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: even the Rams guy Sheield House or what, I can't
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: say his name. It's so much easier when your name's
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: just like mcveay or Shanahan. He had coached under what's
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: his name that's with Penn State now. Like experience matters
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: as a coach, Rivers is somewhat of a unique case
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: because instead of coaching, he was just playing, and he
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: played the position that basically is a coach. But whenever
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I see these guys like what are we talking about?
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Back to Sean, I just think the play calls were bad.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: You got to run some sort of like I don't
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: even know, like some sort of bunch formation where you
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: could just get Pooka Davonte on a free release. You
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: just force Stafford like, hey, go to him, no matter what.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I just thought I put that on McVeigh more than
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: more than Stafford. I really do. On the on the fourth,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: on the third, and four and fourth and four. Out
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: of all the teams that fired a coach, which team
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: do you think will fare the best out of them?
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: As a Ravens fan, I feel like the Ravens will
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: because they have a good hire and are are run
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: so well, because they made a good Hier and a
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: ren so well. Also, I would expect the Bills to
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: come out of it worse. I just think the Ravens
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: are gonna be solid. You know, is Mike Mintor. If
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Mike Mincher is just the next Mike McDonald, you're telling
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: me the Ravens just had these two boy geniuses on
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: their team, which clearly Mintor is highly thought of, and
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: his dad's a longtime coach. So if he's Mike McDonald,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the Ravens will be elite. If he's just solid, they're
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: so well run, the team will just be in the
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: playoff mix and then it'll come down to how Lamar
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: plays and who their offensive coordinator is. Maybe I've missed that,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: but as of recording this, I haven't seen his offensive coordinator.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: H are I think Mike McCarthy's gonna be solid, like
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the Steelers are not gonna be bad. I think there
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: are some major wildcards. Like the solid thing. I think
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: that is there's no Garant Harbaugh is gonna work in
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: New York. Some of them are just gonna be solid.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Now are they gonna be great teams? I don't know,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: but the Browns thing is not gonna work. The solid thing,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to me is a massive could go either way. Who
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: am I missing? I mean, the Raiders and Cardinals don't
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: even have a coach yet. I would assume the Raiders
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: are gonna hire Kubiak in Seattle would be my guess,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and put him in that offense with Mendoza, which would
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: make a lot of sense as a Ravens fan. Lamar
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and Harbad debate on who is more responsible for the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: postseason failures reminds me a lot of Brady and Bill.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: In your opinion, who will have more of a chance
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: to make the Super Bowl in the next five years
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh turning around the Giants or Lamar's new coaching staff
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: with the Ravens. The Ravens. Jackson Dart's an interesting player.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: We have no clue if he's like a high end
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: guy zero like, just to make the playoffs, the quarterback,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you gotta be pretty good. So can't he stay healthy?
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Can he play well against good teams? Like? We got
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: a long way to go with Jackson Dart. If the
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Ravens just shore up the defense, get a good offensive coordinator,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: they could win twelve thirteen games last year. Next year, hell,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: they could be the one seed. So to me, it
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: would be definitely the Ravens. If if you tell me
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Jackson Darts a star, which I could not say that
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: right now, then yeah, they would be. It would be
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: equal because John's gonna it's gonna be a high level
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: run operation. We have no clue on the quarterback none.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: And the one thing you would say about that division
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: is like Jaden has proven way more. He's gotta stay
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: healthy as well. Dack's a much better player than Jackson
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Dart and same with Jalen Hurtscott Flaw doesn't seem like
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: anyone wants to coach him now, but he's a better
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: player in Jackson Dart. Why don't more teams need a
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: bridge quarterback like the Cardinals try to get Shador Sanders.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: His rookie was rough, but a lot of teams had
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: a first round grade on him coming out. They didn't.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I mean that's why he went the fifth I think
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone had a first round grade on him.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I would also say this, I can't even the Cardinals
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: don't have a does anyone want their job? Like, who
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: are they gonna hire? So until we see them hire somebody.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: If I was them, i'd try to bring Jacoby Brissette back.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I really don't know what the Cardinals are gonna do
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: to me. They are the uphill bat. They're actually building
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: a practice facility relatively close to my house. That'd be
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: awesome if they sold to a real ownership and a
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: buddy of mine got the GM job, then I would
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: just I'd become like a sneaky little Cardinal fan. I'd
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: go to practices. But the way they will run right now,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I can't even take them seriou so to me, if
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you're a Cardinal fan, the number one thing you should
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: root for. How do we get Michael Bidwell to sell
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: the team? What do we have to do to get
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell to sell the team, Because until that happens,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know if much is gonna change. I really don't.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: So from Shador Sanders to Jacobe Burssett to no coach
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: to none of it matters, you're gonna be Kyle Sean
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald with that owner no chance. Heading down
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: to Phoenix next week for a golf trip, Curious to
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: know your opinion on two things. Best casino to hit
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: up and best restaurants to hit up? Nothing too expensive,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: balling on a budget if you're staying in Scottsdale not.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I can't speak to Phoenix. I have never I've only
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: been there like twice honestly, since I've lived here on
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: and off for about four years. Casinos Talking Stick, which
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: is kind of in the middle of Scottsdale. It's got
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: golf courses behind it. It's it's pretty impressive casino. It's
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: been a lot of late nights there back in my
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: younger days. Haven't been there in a long time, but
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that would be the casino to go to if you
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: want to play the golf courses, have drinks and then
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: go play or vice versa gamble then go play. Restaurant
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: one that's not crazy expensive. There are some, you know,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: masst Ros is a great stake Dominic's. To me, it's
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: really expensive, but it's my favorite steakhouse on the West Coast.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I would say Houston's. It's that restaurant where Biz Nasty,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the TNT barstool hockey player got in the fight with
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: like the seven Traveling Gypsies. I used to live kind
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: of down in that area. It's in Paradise Valley. It
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: used to be like my favorite. I would just go
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: there by myself. If like Maria was gone for the week,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I went. I ate there with her and by myself
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: probably twenty times. Even bisit like part of the reason
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: he fought those guys is he was so offendive because
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: he loves that restaurant. I love Houston's. I guess they're
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: a chain. I've never been to it. Outside of that.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: The Scottsdale location places bomb and it's not like it's
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: a nicer restaurant, but it's not some crazy, fleming steakhouse. Congrats,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: I'm becoming a dad. I'm thirty two year old dad
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: of three. Congratulations, bro, Welcome to the cult. Insanely difficult
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: to raise children, but with the right woman, it is
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the most satisfying role you will ever play. You deserve
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: a ton of credit because, despite your newfound lack of sleep,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the quality of your show is not dropped off one bit.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I'm very lucky my job is one my commute to
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: my office is out the back door to the backyard.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: And two, I'm not exactly digging ditches here, and I
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: don't This is not a gig where, you know, I
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: got My brother's a farmer, like he's had a couple kids.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Like if it's dern harvest, like he's got shit to do.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: He's got to leave, you know, he got to go.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: You can be gone for I got buddies in construction,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the industry. I'm in my business. I'm very, very fortunate
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: to be able to kind of continue to do this
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: while we're doing this because the whole setup I'm this
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: is not difficult. I have no room to complain seeing
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: people that juggle both. But I asked my boss, John Middlecoff,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: if you get mattorney to leave, and he said, no,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: gotta keep cranking. Maybe take a couple of weeks off
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: in the summer, we'll relax. There's just too much talk about,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: too much good stuff like I'm not gonna not do
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: podcasts during AFC NFC Championship week and people getting hired
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: and fired. As someone with three kids, there's nothing more
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: challenging yet rewarding in life. A bit of advice. Kids
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: will play with literally anything the first few years of life,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: so don't need to go crazy my football question. Is
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: this good advice? I agree. I haven't bought one toy.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: The only toys we got are toys we've been given either.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Her mom brought two suitcases of stuff and Maria sabbatical retirement.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Not quite your right now, but she was in luxury
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: real estate and she was at this I think one
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: of the most expensive houses that's ever been sold in Arizona.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: The people were so cool, and they had grandkids, and
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: they had all this stuff, like expensive toys and diaper genies.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: She pulled in one day. Her back of her car
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: was just full of these people that were selling this
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: like thirty five million dollar home just gave her. I
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: mean a car load of shit. And we've been we've
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: been utilizing it. It's been awesome. So I mean we
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: take a lot of give me stuff. I'm not buying toys.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I mean one of the he's two weeks so I
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: can't even barely grab my finger. The narrative around the
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Bengals is they are wasting Burrow. Is that overblown. They've
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: gotten him good players, and they've spent capital on the
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: old line. Doesn't seem like the picks have worked out.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: But even if he had a good old line, he's
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: still going to get sacked, and he still may get hurt.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's just as many Bengal issues come down
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: to Burrow being injury prone. However, you wanted to find
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: that I had a buddy, a scouting buddy in that
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: division that has watched him really closely and has done
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: pro advances on him. He's like, obviously Joe when he's on,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: is as good as any quarterback in the league. Is
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: an elite player, Hall of Fame level guy. But he
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: does have a deficiency is he will hold onto the
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: ball a little bit too long trying to make the
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: perfect play, and that gets him sacked a lot, and
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: that just creates some chaos. And he said, the O
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: line gets a bad rap and the injuries, there's some
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: randomness to it. But like, yeah, I mean, that's kind
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: of a knock on him right now. But he does
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: hold onto the ball a little bit longer than like
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Brady and Manning would, So it's like, now when he's on,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: he'll he'll look like the best player in the league.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: But he was just saying, you know, some of his teammates,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: he's better than Russell when he's on, than Prime Russell,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: who is damn good too. But remember how often Seattle's
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: offensive line would just get shit on these I suck,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: these guys look like they should be in the UFL.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: And then like offensive linemen would do like TV hits
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: like Schleareth or Joe Thomas, and maybe I remember who
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: was it. It was a guy in the league who
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: was offended. He's like that was not on the left
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Russell ran right into him. Maybe it was Joe Staley.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I forget who it was, But I think sometimes some
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks, the scrambling ones, run into sacks and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: the guys like Burrow will just hold onto the ball
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: trying to make the perfect play. But I'm with you,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: it's like this team, Well what they signed the number
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: two wide receiver to a big contract. How many teams
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: would have done that. So there's no perfect team. There's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: no perfect way to build the team. But I think
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: they've done a better job than they get credit for. Right,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I'm with you there, Lions fan. Is it crazy to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: think that nine to eight is an utter disaster of
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: a season? Five years ago, I would have signed up
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: for a single season at nine and eight and called
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: MCDC a major success. I do think there is some
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: perspective on the Sea going the way that it did,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: finishing above five hundred with a forced play schedule on
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: the horizon. That's pretty crazy. You went nine to eight
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: and you finished fourth place. What position would you target
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: in the upcoming draft. I think there is a similarity
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: with the Niners and the and the Lions, like they
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: gotta find a way to stay healthy. Too often late
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: in the season, it's like all their players are injured,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: so you get branch back. Their corners feels like have
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: been a little underwhelming. You could always use another defensive
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: lineman to go with Aiden Hutchinson. The offensive line this
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: year wasn't quite as good. You get Laporta back off
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: the back injury, so offensively skill wise, you're gonna have Laporta,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: who looks hope's healthy to go with your receivers. The
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: running backs goff to me, just go line. I would
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: just go defensive and offensive line the first couple of
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: round the rounds Big Niner fan, but I'm with you,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: like your team. I knew they would try that last
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: game of the season against the Bears. Like this is
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. He's wired like a hardball. There's no way
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: he's just gonna punt on this and he didn't. So
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: to me, they got to figure out the offensive coordinator job.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Have they have they hired one yet? Maybe maybe I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: missed it. I've had a lot going on, but the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: offensive situation last year, I know he fired the guy
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: after the Sea. He fired the guy in the middle
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: of the season when he took over. Big Niner fan
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Shanahan is undoubtedly an elite coach and somewhere around top
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: five in the league. But how does McVeigh scheme open
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Pookah over and over against McDonald get the Niner struggle
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: to gain the yard. It seems like there's some dcs
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: that just understand Kyle's system. Well. Kyle's passing game is
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: predicated on the run game, and he can't run it
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: against Mike McDonald, so then his drop back passing game
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: is not nearly as good as the Rams. That's not
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: how he wants to play. He wants to run the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: play action stuff to get scheme guys open, partly because
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have Pookin a Coole on his team. Pookina
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Cool is minimum top three wide receiver in the league,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: so he's gotta open on anybody. And he's gone for
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty yards against Seattle this year in
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: the last two games, went for two to twenty five
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: against Thursday on Thursday night, and went for whatever one
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: sixty a couple of days ago. So it's like the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers are depending on DeMarcus Robinson like so
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: the skill wise it's not quite the same, but they don't.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: One way to get after Seattle a little bit is
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: like Richard Sherman and Durell Reeves. The corners are good,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: but it's not They're not unstoppable, but you can't run
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: it at these guys. And then if you do pass
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: the way that the forty nine ers do, the play
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: action stuff, their pass rush gets to them because it's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: kind of a delayed pass. The Rams offense, the way
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: they play, is much more equipped to have success against
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Seattle than the forty nine ers. It's a bad matchup
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: for forty nine ers because he will stop the run
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: and his DB's all tackle, so like there's nowhere for
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: the running backs to go. And then Kyle's offense is
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: not just a drop back throw it forty five times
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: a game. They're not a from behind like he doesn't.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna be down twenty. Nothing comes storming back
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: like the Rams can come storming back because their dropback
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: passing game is their offense. The forty nine Ers are
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: not a drop back passing game offense. Kevin O'Connell is
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid Is. The forty nine Ers already run first
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: offense like the Indiana Hoosiers. How Kyle wants to play
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: and that's how he coaches. Their offensive lines are that great.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: So if like if it's if I'm down seventeen nothing
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: and you know I got a pass like Trent Williams
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: at forty years old can neutralize some people, but the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: other guys can't. But when they're playing, when the run
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: game's working and the pass games off the play action,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: their offensive linlands. Fine. Okay, come more. Help me get
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: through cleaning out my driveway. Multiple times up here in
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: New England. I saw the robot. There's a robot snowblower
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: now this guy used I saw it on Instagram like that.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: That'd be a if I owned one. I would never
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: live in the snow. I heard this argument the other
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: day by somebody like I would much rather live in
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: these freezing cold temperatures and bundle up than those of
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: you that live in the heat. I could not disagree anymore.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how you guys do it. I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: get you hate the heat, we hate the cold, and
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: your misery in the winter is it's actually a little
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: overcast today, sixty eight degrees. But I just there's a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: give and take. But there's no perfect unless you live
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: in Newport Beach, right, Most places aren't seventy five year round.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: So it's like you either got to take the cold
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: winners or the hot summers. And I will choose the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: hot summers every day of the week and fifty times
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: on Sunday over the cold winners. Some of you that
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: grow up in the Northeast, like when I live in Philly,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: people like the winners. It's still hot there too. It's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: humid in the summer, not quite one hundred and fifteen.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: But I don't know how I get on that tangent.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: My question for the mailbag is, with two defensive coach
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, does that change the landscape of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: hiring moving forward? Everyone was looking for the hot young
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I mean the Mike McDonald just got hired.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: His name, his name is Jesse Mentor, and Mike Vrabel
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: is kind of a He's like Philip Rivers that type guy,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't It's like, yeah, that guy, former player, high level player,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: just impressive dude, just a dude, an alpha, an alpha's alpha.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Where does that Mike Vrabel would get hired in any cycle? Offense, defense,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: special teams doesn't give a shit what you're looking for.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: You'd hire Mike Frabel no better job than being a dad.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: My best piece of advice patience. Patience, patience because kids
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: have none. Patience is not something I've ever had, but
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: once you get married, you kind of work on it.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Once you have a child, you don't really have a choice.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I wanted to hear your thoughts on Jonathan Gannon being
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: hired as the Packers defensive coordinator. I remember when he
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: got hired by Arizona and he's like the Poo Poo
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: and everyone was making fun of him at the time.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I actually knew probably more people in Philly. I did
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: not know one of my guys that worked for Philly
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: scouting department that didn't love Jonathan Gannon. And they said, honestly,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a better head coach
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: than he was a defensive coordinator. The downfall Jonathan Gannon
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: was he signed up for a franchise with a joke owner.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is the quarterback, and this year they had
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: a million injuries. I think Jonathan Gann's pretty good, I
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  Speaker 1: really do. I actually kind of came around on him.
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  Speaker 1: I met him at the Combine a couple years ago.
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  Speaker 1: One of my buddies introduced me to him. See just
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  Speaker 1: a high level cat. Now, is he gonna be as
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  Speaker 1: good as Halflee? I don't know. I feel you know,
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  Speaker 1: you go back to Philly. Jonathan Gannon's probably and maybe
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: this is unfair, but a little more vanilla than Halfley.
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  Speaker 1: Halfley was really good. Like if you told me I
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  Speaker 1: could get a defensive coordinator like he would be on
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  Speaker 1: my short list of people I would have wanted in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL head coach or defensive coordinator. I think Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: Gannon's probably higher than most, but I I it might
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: be a little bit of a drop off, but he's
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  Speaker 1: still gonna be good. Joe Barry days are not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be there. I mean, look at Jonathan Gannon when he
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  Speaker 1: was there in Philly a couple years ago, and they
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  Speaker 1: lived the league in sacks. So you get Gary, you
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: get Micah back draft more defensive players. It's a good, higher, solid,
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  Speaker 1: higher with a guy with a ton of experience. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's face it, the pressure on Joe Brady, pressure on
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  Speaker 1: the Packers, like there's no like, can't just have a
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  Speaker 1: nine to eight season like people are gonna want like
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  Speaker 1: an NFC championship, super Bowl level run and you make
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: this trade for Micah, which was the right move. I
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  Speaker 1: don't I would have made that move as well. So
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  Speaker 1: what everybody, but you got to come through when you
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: make those moves, and so the pressure, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: probably why they didn't go. I had someone text me
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  Speaker 1: they thought Jim Leonard was gonna be the guy. With
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon, you know, you're getting a guy that can
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  Speaker 1: coordinate at the NFL level. He's done it at the
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  Speaker 1: highest level against the best teams right in Philly, so
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  Speaker 1: and he can handle the pressure. So I get why
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  Speaker 1: they did it, and I think it's a good higher.
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  Speaker 1: I do think he's got a tough guy to replace
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  Speaker 1: because I think athlete's a stud. But totally understand it.
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  Speaker 1: And I've never heard a bad word about Jonathan Gannon.
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  Speaker 1: I actually think more people around the league like a
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: more seeing what he went through in Arizona. I actually
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: think he hired a pretty good staff too, like the
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: guy he oh. The Lions hired the ball dude from
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Arizona who's highly thought of. Everyone I know in the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: league likes him. I think they think highly of these guys.
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  Speaker 1: They think lowly of the organization, not of Bannon great
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: head coach. Clearly not the most dynamic guy, but I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: think it was a good hire. On defense audios, the
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  Speaker 1: volume