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- 0:02Why don't we do this the third and final hour at least for today of
- 0:09the Morning Show with President Scott not I'm not trying to be any kind of
- 0:13profit of doom here. I'm not going anywhere at least I'm not planning on
- 0:18it. Ultimately, I hope that's just strictly up to God nobody else.
- 0:23But we welcome you to the third hour. Grant Allen over there running the
- 0:26radio program in Studio one A. I'm here in Studio one B, and
- 0:30I am joined by it's been, as the kids say, a minute since
- 0:34he's been back with us in studio. Doctor Bob McClure, President of the
- 0:38James Madison Institute, Hello, my friend, how are you, Preston?
- 0:41How are you? My friend? I think the last time you were in
- 0:44here it might have been you, me and doctor Ed Moore and we might
- 0:48have been punching numbers. Was it twenty twelve, Maybe it wasn't the Trump
- 0:54No election. I think it was the second election of Barack Obama. Oh
- 0:58my gosh, you were breaking down number and you were just you were reigning
- 1:02threes from you know, I mean, you were everything you were predicting was
- 1:06going on and in Florida. You nailed everything and I think that was the
- 1:10last time you were in student. I can't believe it. I know I've
- 1:11done the show a number of times, just not in studio. Yes,
- 1:15well, I'm glad to be here. The studio looks fantastic. Love all
- 1:21the babbleheads and the pennants. Your man James Madison. Absolutely yes, he
- 1:27is fantastic for someone tuning in that that. You know, they hear us
- 1:32talk about James Madison. They remember your former colleague and you know, now
- 1:37working in another group with another group. Salnwzo represented JMI so well joining us
- 1:42over the years, and we thank you for allowing Sal to join us,
- 1:46of course and give us those insights legislatively. But for those that are new,
- 1:51don't really have an idea. They hear James Madison, they know he's
- 1:53a founding father. What's James Madison Institute about and why is it based in
- 1:57Tallassee, Florida. You know, as many of your listeners will know,
- 2:04James Madison, the man was responsible in large part for many of our founding
- 2:10documents that we have in our nation, with our nations founding and those documents,
- 2:16as you talk about all the time are designed to protect us from an
- 2:24overarching, overreaching government. And the founders understood the power of government and what
- 2:32it could do and how oppressive it could be because they came from that.
- 2:40And so the James Madison Institute, founded in nineteen eighty seven, was founded
- 2:45by Stanley Marshall, former president of Florida State University. Stan was president from
- 2:51the late six from about sixty seven to seventy six. Turbulent times here in
- 2:54Florida, but handled it, I think from every angle, and I think
- 3:01both sides would agree. While he may have been tough, he was fair.
- 3:07He allowed civil disobedience in the mid to late sixties. Florida State at
- 3:13the time was considered the Berkeley of the South. That's a direct quote from
- 3:17a national newspaper, and stan handled that as well as one could possibly handle.
- 3:23In the late sixties seventies, fast forward to about nineteen eighty seven,
- 3:29Reagan's second term, everything coming out of the Academies was focused on higher taxes,
- 3:38more government, the use of government to advance policy, to advance whatever
- 3:44the leadership chosen was. Reagan turned that tide and when he was elected in
- 3:49nineteen eighty but even in nineteen eighty seven. Coming out of the academies,
- 3:53there was this notion that more government was better. So what happened was there
- 3:59was the establishment that these these state, these think tanks that popped up around
- 4:01the country. JMI, which is also what the shorthand of what we're called,
- 4:06was one of ten and the state think tanks focused on returning to the
- 4:12principles of the founding, which is to limit the role of government in our
- 4:15daily lives, to allow for free enterprise to happen, for markets to move,
- 4:23for people to chase their version of the American dream, whatever that is
- 4:27to them, within the the boundaries of the law and the protection of private
- 4:32property. Those were in the late eighties, you know, Reagan articulated those
- 4:39that that that's so that's that's the founding of the James Madison Industrute. We're
- 4:43based in Tallahassee because we're in the state capitol and this is where things happen,
- 4:46and so uh we have to protect and promote the ideals that our nation
- 4:53was founded upon. Back with doctor Bob McClure from the James Madison Institute.
- 4:59He's the president. He runs it and been a long time friend of the
- 5:02program. We've taken calls with Bob over the years and talked about a lot
- 5:10of different things that matter. You know, a lot was written up about
- 5:14how the legislative session. I thought it was interesting. One write up said
- 5:17the winner was the James Madison Institute. First, what's your reaction when you
- 5:25see a headline like that, Because here's how I boil it down. That
- 5:29means that the citizens of Florida won, right. You know, when you're
- 5:32a principally based organization, the ideals of the founding, and you're not worrying
- 5:36about lobbying or you're not worrying about propaganda, to see something like that,
- 5:42Preston, is a tremendous feeling because you understand that our state is winning,
- 5:47as you just said, and we live in such I love the state of
- 5:51Florida. I'm a seventh generation Floridian. It's so diverse, it's so dynamic.
- 5:57And the fact that quote we win, it's not us. You know.
- 6:01My philosophy is just you know, it's like Nick Saban says, it
- 6:05can be rat poison. You got to keep moving forward, You got to
- 6:09keep advancing the ball in policy because there are always things to do. But
- 6:14in that moment. In that glimmer of a moment, you understand that our
- 6:16state is winning the free hashtag free state of Florida. And one thing that
- 6:21really matters is that the rest of the country is watching. So when these
- 6:26kinds of things happen in Florida, you see other governors other legislatures around the
- 6:30country go, oh, I can do that. I can do that in
- 6:33education reform and school choice. I can do that in certificate of need health
- 6:38care repeal. And that's really really important and critical. You know, Grant
- 6:43and I talk about the fact that Florida is a lesson that number one,
- 6:49you can do just fine with a part time legislature. Right. Secondly,
- 6:55we're consumer tax state, right, And I think that those two really stand
- 7:00out as examples of this might be a better way for governance to operate.
- 7:04You agree, I absolutely agree. And you see other states starting to compete
- 7:10with Florida. So you're seeing Iowa lower their income tax, You're seeing Georgia
- 7:15looking to gradually lower their income tax over the next two to three years.
- 7:19Alabama is looking at doing those same things. And what I love about Florida
- 7:25is that we've been told for as long as you and I have been alive
- 7:29that as the nation becomes more diverse, more brown, more this, more,
- 7:32that it's inevitable that the left is going to win everything. Well,
- 7:38Florida gives a lot of that. We have every demographic in this state.
- 7:42We have, you know, almost twenty percent Hispanic, twelve to fifteen percent
- 7:46African American, rural, urban, military retiree, every demographic that the left
- 7:51loves to kind of pluck out cherry pick right. And yet Florida has become
- 7:57more and more red. And why is that. It's not because of politicians
- 8:01per se, though we've had some really good ones. We've been very fortunate.
- 8:03It's your point, it's policy. It's good policies. The good policy.
- 8:09We say it, j Am. I good policy is good politics.
- 8:11And so what happens is when you have good policies and they are put in
- 8:16place and executed properly. Taxation, education, those kinds of things you see
- 8:26that people go, Okay, I get it. It doesn't matter what color
- 8:28you are, it doesn't matter what your demographic is. Everybody has the same
- 8:33goal in that almost everybody to achieve their version of the American dream. They
- 8:37want their children and their grandchildren to have a shot at their version of the
- 8:41American dream. And you see that happen in Florida, and the left can't
- 8:43stand it. Doctor Bob McClure with me, President James Madison Institute. So
- 9:00many wins in the legislative session? Where to begin? So I will just
- 9:03simply tee you up and ask you what is the most important set of wins
- 9:07for the Floridians of this state in the last legislative session? From your chairs
- 9:11out of JMI. I think there are really two preston that are really important.
- 9:16You know, two years ago we had what are Salnuzo, who used
- 9:24to be at JMI, called the Session of the century. We got tort
- 9:28reform, we got DEI reform at higher ed, we got ESG reform,
- 9:31we got paycheck protection, universal school choice, and universal school choice is very
- 9:39simple. It simply means that the money follows the child. Right. Parents
- 9:43get to choose what the best needs are for their children and or grandchildren,
- 9:46and the money follows the child. It's very simple. Nobody's stealing from the
- 9:50public schools, nobody's doing it's none of that. But there were some glitches
- 9:54there. You could pay for transp rotation, but you could buy an easel
- 10:03for art if you were a homeschooler, but you couldn't buy paints. You
- 10:07know, you could buy a basketball goal, but you couldn't buy basketballs.
- 10:13And so there was some what they called a glitch bill for universal school choice
- 10:16in the use of those dollars, and so one of them for parents and
- 10:20grandparents is that now they fix that so that the dollars can be used more
- 10:26properly to allow for education, homeschooling, podschooling, those kinds of things.
- 10:35That was a huge issue because it was very, very hard. The second
- 10:39thing related to education pressing is that the funding they streamline the ability to get
- 10:46those dollars, so you can't take let's just say it's ten grand to educate
- 10:52a public school child. You can't take that ten grand to go to Vegas.
- 10:54You can't do that. But it was really hard initially after the bill
- 10:58to get state ramped up to get those dollars to schools that are taking the
- 11:03money, the scholarship money, and also to homeschools. They streamlined all that,
- 11:07so the dollars are now flowing properly so that you can do that.
- 11:11That's a huge issue because if you have universal school choice. But you screw
- 11:16up the execution, the unions are gonna come in and say, see aha
- 11:20aha, just like the sawmis says, right, uhha aha, this isn't
- 11:24working. You know, we got to go back. So that was a
- 11:26huge issue. Second issue that is a huge win for UH Floridians is this
- 11:33notion of reciprocity. So we have almost a thousand people moving to the state
- 11:37of Florida a day. They're gonna need doctors, they're gonna need uh barbers,
- 11:43They're gonna need cosmatologists, they're gonna need all kinds of different services.
- 11:50And yet if you are a doctor moving from New York to Florida, it
- 11:56was it was really really hard to get the ice ensure to practice in Florida.
- 12:03And so what they've done is, again I won't get too far into
- 12:05the weeds, is they have allowed entrepreneurs and and doctors to move to Florida
- 12:13and if you are licensed in another state, the ability to practice medicine in
- 12:18Florida is now completely streamlined. The ability to open a barbershop, the ability
- 12:24to you know, and we don't have it so much in North Florida,
- 12:28but think about Sarasota and Naples where people are just pouring in Palm Beach,
- 12:35Miami. They need you know, as people come, they also need services.
- 12:39And the legislature did a tremendous job of streamlining the ability to work and
- 12:45be an entrepreneur and a business owner. If you were in another state,
- 12:48now in Florida, if I were to ask you, what is one thing
- 12:54that didn't get across the finish line that is going to be high on the
- 12:58list on your notes for next year? What would that be? I think?
- 13:05I think there are two issues that could could move Florida into the ditch
- 13:09if we're not careful, and and the legislature, to their credit, has
- 13:11really tried to address both of these. I wish they would be a little
- 13:16more bold. One is this this notion of affordable housing. Okay, the
- 13:22left. You know, as as people pouring to Florida, you see it
- 13:24every day in the Wall Street Journal, you see it everywhere. You know,
- 13:28buying a home is becoming less affordable. Okay, right, it's very
- 13:33right, but it's it's what. But what what we have to understand is
- 13:37building affordable housing and building houses that are affordable are not the same thing.
- 13:45So typically local governments want to say, hey, you need to build more
- 13:48affordable, more affordable housing, mister builder, right, well, that simply
- 13:52means build, build a chief house, h under price it and you lose
- 13:58money on house, and then we'll give you the rest of the development to
- 14:03really make your money. That's that's not the way it works. Affordable housing
- 14:07and houses that afford are affordable are two different things. Houses that are affordable
- 14:13eliminate permitting process, wait times, impact fees, all of the things that
- 14:20local municipalities use to make tons of money. That's different, and waiting time
- 14:28cost builders money. That's the one issue. The second issue is property insurance,
- 14:33but that's going to take time and we have to address that more fully.
- 14:37Can't wait for our visit next month already, thanks for coming in,
- 14:39all right, thank you, Doctor Bob McClure. Will join us monthly and
- 14:45we will chat about such matters on the third Tuesday, I think it is
- 14:50of every month. Ready here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott SA