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#253 - Mount Westmore (Ice Cube, E-40 & Too $hort) · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Boulet Cap Show, Special Guests in Here, Mount Wes Moore Yay,
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Speaker 1: Cube Sure, three quarters in three Quarter, Miss Snoop Dogg,
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Speaker 1: Mister Snoopy Dogg, Somewhere Mining Cryptog, Miss and Snoopy, Missus
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Speaker 1: Snoopy Missing Snoop. Hey, Well, look, I'm so glad that
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Speaker 1: this album is actually here, because you know, it felt
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Speaker 1: like one of these like miss methodical albums that we
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Speaker 1: always hear about and then it never ends up coming out. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: how hard was it to everybody to like, you know,
0:27
Speaker 1: this one was coming out? This ain't none of that,
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Speaker 1: this is this is for real, for real, for real,
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Speaker 1: for real. I was hoping it wasn't like Detok's two
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Speaker 1: time and thing. Man Like. We had many opportunities to
0:35
Speaker 1: pull the trigger, but it was like should we right
0:38
Speaker 1: And we discussed it as like you know, for intelligent minds,
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Speaker 1: you know, pow wow, and then we're like, what's that day?
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Speaker 1: That day could have been October twenty twenty. You could
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Speaker 1: have dropped the album. We could have dropped it all
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Speaker 1: of last year, anytime earlier this year. We just we
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Speaker 1: just felt like, let's do some things like get all
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Speaker 1: the merch together, get all the duction rug Get, you know,
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Speaker 1: and we did an NFT play, which you know, once
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Speaker 1: we put it out on the n f T, we
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Speaker 1: had to wait a certain amount of time before we
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Speaker 1: can actually put a different record out on the street.
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Speaker 1: This is a different record than than the n f T. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Some of the songs are the same, but most of
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Speaker 1: these are new. How how lucrative is the NFT play
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Speaker 1: is that? I mean because a lot of artists are
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Speaker 1: going in that direction. I mean Snoop pulled Doggie style
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Speaker 1: and all the death real stuff off of DSPs. Like,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a thing where it was great for
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Speaker 1: us because we you know, got a great deal. But
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Speaker 1: you know, the n f T market, the whole crypto
1:43
Speaker 1: market has been like going backwards ever since like Mother's Day.
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Speaker 1: So it just was not great timing for the group,
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Speaker 1: but it was lucrative for the group. So you know,
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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. It worked in a lot
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Speaker 1: of ways. If we did it when it was a
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Speaker 1: bull market instead of a bear market, then it would
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Speaker 1: have did a lot better. You know, we always plan
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Speaker 1: to make sure it hit the street though, you know,
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Speaker 1: that was that was a you know, one of our
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Speaker 1: demands that yeah, we can do this NFT play. But
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Speaker 1: at some point this music gotta hit all platforms, you know, CDs,
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Speaker 1: We're making albums, We're doing everything you can do to
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Speaker 1: get this to the streets. And December nine is the date, Yeah, Friday.
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, man, because you guys all have very unique journeys.
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Speaker 1: Obviously both y'all are on Jive for a very long time.
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Speaker 1: Cube you've been a major label artist, you've gone independent. Nowadays,
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Speaker 1: it feels like the transparency of record deals is higher.
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Speaker 1: People are talking about it more in terms of like
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Speaker 1: some of these shitty deals that are getting offered. Our
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Speaker 1: Meek Mills talked about it a lot recently. What is
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Speaker 1: your guys is like, uh, thoughts on just like where
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Speaker 1: the game is and like artists becoming a lot more
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Speaker 1: self aware on some of the deals they're signing, because
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming like everybody's probably signed a deal that they're
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Speaker 1: not the craziest about, you know what I mean. And
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Speaker 1: you guys have seen all sides of the game, whether
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Speaker 1: it's doing the independent ship, doing the major label ship.
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Speaker 1: Well you know, my Westmore, we're doing it like one
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Speaker 1: at a time, so uh, we're not really like getting
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Speaker 1: buried up under contracts anything anything like that. We we
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Speaker 1: definitely the group has definitely gross quite a bit of
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Speaker 1: money before any anything ever. Drive Well, the tour has
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Speaker 1: been going cool. You guys a lot of tour d
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Speaker 1: show shows. We did really good on merch We did
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Speaker 1: really good with uh, you know, some early stuff we did,
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Speaker 1: like we appeared at the Triller event when Jake I
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Speaker 1: remember that. Yeah, that was a big payday. And you know,
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Speaker 1: we just kind of at the same fight Nate Robinson
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Speaker 1: took to the No. No, it was the one after, right,
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Speaker 1: it was one before he took the he took the
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Speaker 1: l before that fight, I believe, I can't remember, but
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Speaker 1: it was. It was, yeah, and I remember that was
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Speaker 1: it was in Atlanta. But you guys have been building this,
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Speaker 1: I mean, big has been out over a year. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: So it's it's like a it's like a business play man.
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Speaker 1: Everything is thought out in advance. When we're gonna drop
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Speaker 1: the album, when's the next album coming, what are the
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Speaker 1: visual is gonna do? Like, you know, what's the next
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Speaker 1: money plays. It's more like a business. And I think
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Speaker 1: that I think that this market right now for a
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Speaker 1: young artists, they don't have to just go sign to
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Speaker 1: a major label and get buried or do a three
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Speaker 1: sixty deal. They could really like go do deals with
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Speaker 1: different platforms in different type of spaces where the music
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Speaker 1: could live. It's so much, it's so many different places
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Speaker 1: that a song or an album, a project can go
4:33
Speaker 1: right now. So you know you gotta just factor all
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Speaker 1: that in and not just do that old conventional one
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Speaker 1: street you know, like get it to the physical. You
4:42
Speaker 1: can't do that, Like you gotta do a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's a good time to like, uh,
4:47
Speaker 1: you know, we got good leverage on this being is
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Speaker 1: that it's snoop and Cube forty is short and we
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Speaker 1: OG's and we solid. We didn't have we didn't have
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Speaker 1: to go in there and they're like, wh'll give you
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Speaker 1: a deal, but you got to sign on for like
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Speaker 1: seven albums, Like it wasn't that with us. What would you, Cube,
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Speaker 1: would you advise like a younger artist who's maybe got
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Speaker 1: like a like a solid local buzz they get you,
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Speaker 1: would you would you you know, give them advice to
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Speaker 1: explore the major label route or or try to stay
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Speaker 1: as independent as long as possible. Stay as independent as
5:16
Speaker 1: long as possible, as long as you can you know,
5:19
Speaker 1: when you do your music without a record label, you
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Speaker 1: own one hundred percent of it, and once you sign
5:25
Speaker 1: with a record label, you're basically given them a percentage
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Speaker 1: of your work. So if you have the the discipline
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Speaker 1: and the resources to be an independent artist, then you
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Speaker 1: should do it. A lot of guys are and I
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Speaker 1: let forty speak on it, but a lot of guys are.
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Speaker 1: You know, they signed three sixty deals and that's like
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Speaker 1: one of the worst deals ever invented in man, So
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Speaker 1: some of them start. You know, you get real educated
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Speaker 1: on deals once you sign a bad one because you
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Speaker 1: realize why, why the money is not making it to me? Yeah,
6:09
Speaker 1: well I haven't gotten any royalty checks. It's almost like
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Speaker 1: the last check you ever see is the advance. And
6:13
Speaker 1: so they start to you know, nothing will teach you
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Speaker 1: more about the music business than signing a bad deal
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Speaker 1: and you figuring out why it's bad, right, and then
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Speaker 1: you become an expert. And I'll kick it over the
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Speaker 1: forty to give a few comments on it. Well, nowadays,
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Speaker 1: you know, the new era, the new generation has a
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Speaker 1: pretty damn good and I'm happy for him. And they're smart.
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Speaker 1: A lot of these junsters are smart. They don't have
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Speaker 1: to sign with a major major give you a good
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Speaker 1: if you like. I can't. I can't really put a
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Speaker 1: age group on am I talking to the mic, I
6:53
Speaker 1: can't put an age on it. But just say you
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Speaker 1: just say you're eighteen or nineteen and you sign a
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Speaker 1: deal for three years and that label blow you up.
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Speaker 1: It might be it might be good for you. It
7:06
Speaker 1: might be like they put they put the whole house
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Speaker 1: behind you. That might be cool because that's what you
7:11
Speaker 1: need because you don't have the funding for it, the
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Speaker 1: financials for it. You don't have you don't have it.
7:17
Speaker 1: So you you you know, you let you let them,
7:19
Speaker 1: you know, do what they need to do with you.
7:22
Speaker 1: Be smarter and make sure that you know, you negotiate
7:26
Speaker 1: your masters and all that stuff. You know, how quick
7:29
Speaker 1: you get them back and whatnot. You know what I'm saying.
7:31
Speaker 1: But that can be that could be an advantage for
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Speaker 1: you if you're really young, you know what I mean.
7:38
Speaker 1: And because because then once you get off that label,
7:41
Speaker 1: then you got the districal kids of the world and
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Speaker 1: just distribution deals, you know, ninety ten and you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Those yeah, that kind of stuff, you know,
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Speaker 1: and that way you can control your own destiny and
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Speaker 1: you're getting all the gouda. You understand me. Keep your
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Speaker 1: masters right, you keep your masters care yeah, because it
8:00
Speaker 1: could go the other way too. Some people sign you
8:03
Speaker 1: and they don't do ship. You go out there and
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Speaker 1: do all the work and they get paid. You your
8:09
Speaker 1: sofa and now they then they come out the world
8:13
Speaker 1: and won't want won't they cut? And you feel like, man,
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Speaker 1: y'all didn't do nothing. But so you got to just
8:18
Speaker 1: be careful. You got to really know who you getting
8:22
Speaker 1: in business with and and not just be happy to
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Speaker 1: be signed. To understand that this is a business that's
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of minds, a lot of
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Speaker 1: land mines in the major industry, the major label industry
8:36
Speaker 1: with a You come in that door with those smiles
8:38
Speaker 1: and those meetings, and they bring out the whole staff
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Speaker 1: and it's like catering and they love you and they
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Speaker 1: sign it out and the check is big and you're
8:46
Speaker 1: happy and celebrating and the product comes out and it
8:49
Speaker 1: does whatever. But somewhere, you know, when I say land mines,
8:53
Speaker 1: you can't really get mad at the right person. You
8:56
Speaker 1: call up there yelling and screaming, they're gonna cheve you.
8:59
Speaker 1: You go up there at the ads, they're gonna chef you.
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Speaker 1: You sit there, your next single come out of your
9:03
Speaker 1: second album and it's stellar. They gonna shove you, and
9:06
Speaker 1: it's like you're still a really good artist, and you
9:08
Speaker 1: get a lot of really good artists lost in that
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Speaker 1: major label saw. So if you go there, know what
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Speaker 1: you're doing, stay independent, you in charge of me, You
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Speaker 1: stay independent. You know. That's another thing. That's the advantage
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Speaker 1: I had over many people that started off on major labels.
9:23
Speaker 1: I was independent for many moons. I was independent six
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Speaker 1: years before I even you know, I unsigned my major
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Speaker 1: distribution deal into nineteen ninety four with Jive. I came
9:35
Speaker 1: in the game in nineteen eighty eight independent, so it
9:38
Speaker 1: was six years I had to you know, I went
9:41
Speaker 1: to college to learn. When I say college, I'm talking
9:43
Speaker 1: about just music industry college, you know, unwillingly, you know
9:47
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I just went and I had
9:49
Speaker 1: to learn. I was in it by force, not by choice.
9:52
Speaker 1: So then when I sign my distribution deal, it was
9:54
Speaker 1: great because I already had to demand. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I knew what I wanted and it was great.
9:59
Speaker 1: So I'm independent still right now, I control my own destiny.
10:05
Speaker 1: But my whole thing is is this. Nowadays, you could
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Speaker 1: do what the majors do as a as an independent
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Speaker 1: young artist. All you gotta do is hire indis. You
10:13
Speaker 1: can hire indie radio people. You know, it's all kinds
10:16
Speaker 1: of stuff you can do and it's really up to you.
10:18
Speaker 1: You can. You can promote your sec social media. Is
10:22
Speaker 1: there content? All that work? Your content on the social
10:26
Speaker 1: media is the biggest playfor your directs a consumer. Now exactly,
10:29
Speaker 1: you needed to deal to get into the records. Now
10:31
Speaker 1: you're locked in. You don't have to press up hard
10:33
Speaker 1: CDs and all that stuff. You just you can. We
10:36
Speaker 1: can go in there right right now, make a song
10:38
Speaker 1: right now today, right now, put the beat up, make
10:41
Speaker 1: a slap. Had it shit on iTunes in twenty four hours.
10:44
Speaker 1: So you got too done. Joint project together Cube, you're
10:48
Speaker 1: part of I mean we're talking about groups. I mean
10:51
Speaker 1: West Side Connection, NWA. West Sid Connection to me was
10:53
Speaker 1: like the first like super group. I mean, NWA y'all
10:57
Speaker 1: started together, So I don't consider like y'all pulling together.
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Speaker 1: But West Side Connection was a supergroup for real? What
11:05
Speaker 1: is for you being a part of these group situations
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Speaker 1: and these group albums that are historical. What is the
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Speaker 1: process like now with Mount Westmore? How different is it?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've been with groups, but nobody's been as
11:18
Speaker 1: big as the group. I mean now, of course, you know,
11:23
Speaker 1: these guys are platinum selling artists that's been in the
11:28
Speaker 1: game over thirty years, some thirty five, and they're superstars.
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Speaker 1: And so you know, with n WA, we were all
11:39
Speaker 1: starting together. Nobody was a superstar Mount Wesmore, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean west Side connection. We were all kind of
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Speaker 1: in the same clique, and it all made sense. Here.
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Speaker 1: These are guys that we're friends, and it started with
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Speaker 1: a friendship and respect and thirty years of admiring each other.
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Speaker 1: And to get in a group with those guys like
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Speaker 1: I feel like I can rely on them, you know,
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Speaker 1: more than I even relied in NWA. You know, it
12:20
Speaker 1: was a lot of you know, Dre's the ship now,
12:23
Speaker 1: but back then it was arguing. You know, we was
12:27
Speaker 1: trying to get it right. We're seeing the movie. Yeah,
12:29
Speaker 1: so uh, you know, it's it's been great to just
12:35
Speaker 1: relax and not have to, you know, spearhead everything and
12:39
Speaker 1: be the front thinker or the one coming up with
12:43
Speaker 1: all the ideas or this or that, you know, not
12:46
Speaker 1: saying that I had to do it with those other groups,
12:48
Speaker 1: but I trust these guys more than I trusted the
12:52
Speaker 1: other guys because we were kind of in the trenches together,
12:55
Speaker 1: except for MAYBEWC, who's obviously still comes out on state is.
13:00
Speaker 1: You know, we grew up in the same neighborhood, so
13:03
Speaker 1: we grew up rapping against each other. We grew up
13:06
Speaker 1: playing football against each other. Yeah, you know, Duve is amazing,
13:13
Speaker 1: you know, but you know he you know, he's a
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Speaker 1: He's an artist that I'm friends with from from childhood.
13:23
Speaker 1: These are artists that I grew up buying their records,
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Speaker 1: you know, dub I help them put together some of
13:29
Speaker 1: his records. So it's a difference. I'm a fan of
13:33
Speaker 1: these guys, and I wasn't necessarily just a fan of
13:39
Speaker 1: those guys. I was friends and I like what they do.
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Speaker 1: So it's different and it's easier to be with superstars
13:48
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15:01
Speaker 1: guys speak to like there's always like an told like
15:06
Speaker 1: rivalry between Northern California and Southern California, and I'm not
15:10
Speaker 1: I never heard of one ever in my life. Like,
15:13
Speaker 1: out of my thirty five years in hip hop music
15:16
Speaker 1: putting music on the ship, I have never Now, if
15:18
Speaker 1: you want to talk about br before that, before Wrap
15:21
Speaker 1: for streets, I don't think it was a rival. It
15:23
Speaker 1: was just the game the streets, you know what I mean.
15:26
Speaker 1: That's a fun going on in prisons and not hip
15:31
Speaker 1: hop has never been in hip hop, not hip hop.
15:33
Speaker 1: It's always been supportive. I think, Uh, I think we
15:37
Speaker 1: admire each other for what we don't do. You know. Uh,
15:43
Speaker 1: the energy, the flavor that that Northern California Bay Area
15:51
Speaker 1: artists bring is something different, new fresh. I'm always looking
15:56
Speaker 1: forward to seeing what it is. And it's different than
16:00
Speaker 1: than the Southern California flavor. And I think vice versa.
16:05
Speaker 1: You know, they hear stuff from from down here that
16:08
Speaker 1: they like, Oh damn, now, don't they on the whole
16:11
Speaker 1: new new page. You know, we we're so similar. But
16:15
Speaker 1: we were different. It's like cousins. You know, y'all blood related,
16:20
Speaker 1: but your household is a little different than your cousin's household.
16:23
Speaker 1: I do feel like the Bay is like the I mean,
16:26
Speaker 1: the most underratedly influential region in all of rap. If
16:29
Speaker 1: you just think of like we got sonically slang, I mean,
16:33
Speaker 1: you know, I think of like guys like the Pack,
16:36
Speaker 1: how they influenced the whole generation, like twelve ten or
16:38
Speaker 1: twelve years ago, like obviously forty short you guys, are
16:41
Speaker 1: you know on the Mount West Moore? For sure? Obviously
16:46
Speaker 1: the record with p Low on it very Bay Area.
16:50
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like, who's kind of picking the beats,
16:54
Speaker 1: who's kind of helped A and R in it? And like,
16:56
Speaker 1: would you guys say it is like a which region
17:00
Speaker 1: sonically is winning? The Bay or La on the album?
17:03
Speaker 1: We had to have a balance, It had to come
17:05
Speaker 1: from different ways. So you listen to if you heard
17:07
Speaker 1: the album, you listen to the song have a Nice Day,
17:10
Speaker 1: fuck You song. It's definitely that's definitely like Doctor dre
17:14
Speaker 1: Influence produced by Fred Records, Lace You Up, definitely like
17:19
Speaker 1: SoCal All Day Activated. You know, it's it's on there
17:23
Speaker 1: and then you know, you got songs that are on
17:24
Speaker 1: the extreme other spectrum of like a free game, and
17:28
Speaker 1: and and yeah the baby basically mean the two big
17:31
Speaker 1: records a strip shout out to Plow, that's my bro.
17:34
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you leave the state
17:36
Speaker 1: of California, we're here. If you leave here, their ears
17:40
Speaker 1: just here. West Coast. Don't hear that a little distinct
17:43
Speaker 1: that a Bayary person and an l A person would
17:45
Speaker 1: hear in the song. And I think that the West
17:49
Speaker 1: Coast when you get us all in the same room,
17:52
Speaker 1: we stand up together. We always have. You put Warren
17:55
Speaker 1: g and DJ Quick in the room that we all
17:57
Speaker 1: we West Coast, we California boys. We like we ride together.
18:00
Speaker 1: Like for us, it's not on basketball obviously, it's sports
18:04
Speaker 1: and stuff. You know, you gotta you gotta have. We're
18:06
Speaker 1: all riding with the Big three. But when it comes
18:08
Speaker 1: to like you know, the professional teams. But we definitely
18:13
Speaker 1: feed off each other off the Bay. In the Bay
18:15
Speaker 1: we got a lot of Doctor Drem's in Bay Area music.
18:18
Speaker 1: We got a lot from Drey, you know what I'm saying. Recently,
18:22
Speaker 1: I think you know producers like like like Mustard, he
18:26
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, grabbed a little bit of
18:28
Speaker 1: that Bay energy and his way. Of course, we don't
18:30
Speaker 1: got a gang of lingo from the Bay. Yeah, but
18:33
Speaker 1: you know so it's like it's just we we are one.
18:37
Speaker 1: But like he said, we like cousins and there is
18:39
Speaker 1: no feud, don't I have not seen the feud or
18:42
Speaker 1: the competition who could come with the hottest records. We
18:45
Speaker 1: really and our young rappers when you get to the
18:48
Speaker 1: gass and all of them come out, they hanging out
18:50
Speaker 1: with the Kendricks. Ain't no, it ain't no animis. I
18:53
Speaker 1: ain't heard of no animosity ever. Out of my whole history,
18:56
Speaker 1: every era when the game came in l A, it's
18:59
Speaker 1: never been you guys. I wasna say, have you guys
19:01
Speaker 1: had the bipp and talk with Snoop and Cube about
19:03
Speaker 1: when you guys go do promo in the bay, like,
19:04
Speaker 1: don't leave nothing in the car. They know, they already
19:07
Speaker 1: know because they besides us Cuban Snoop, they got Barrier
19:11
Speaker 1: fam too. We all, we all, we all locked in.
19:14
Speaker 1: We all. Yeah, that's nothing. What I'm saying the warrant
19:18
Speaker 1: she got real blood cousins in the field on the
19:21
Speaker 1: vill from Oville in Oakland. Yeah, you know, going on, man, Yeah,
19:26
Speaker 1: I was. I got cousin, and I got cousin in Anglewood,
19:28
Speaker 1: like I got cousin all over the place. I was
19:29
Speaker 1: born on Sunset Boulevard. Man, that's crazy. I got a
19:32
Speaker 1: whole million first cousins in LA. Not only are you
19:35
Speaker 1: guys obviously historical artists, great discographies, uh, but you guys
19:40
Speaker 1: are all moguls within your own right and like I
19:43
Speaker 1: mean some of the biggest moguls and music Snoop Dogg
19:46
Speaker 1: is killing the crypto space. He's just killing everything. He
19:49
Speaker 1: bought that a bunch of movies too, Yeah, he on
19:51
Speaker 1: his movie. So speaking of movies, Cube Vision, speaking of
19:54
Speaker 1: locked In, all of the liquor we're drinking, speaking of
19:56
Speaker 1: the Big Three, the goon with the spoon, ice cream Man,
20:00
Speaker 1: what is you guys? Are you guys like passing ideas
20:03
Speaker 1: around in terms of just like business opportunities and shit,
20:06
Speaker 1: because I do feel like, you know, there's there's this.
20:09
Speaker 1: It's kind of a very unicorn situation. And not only
20:11
Speaker 1: have historical artists, but historical businessmen in the group together
20:15
Speaker 1: without a doubt. You know, we we started, you know,
20:18
Speaker 1: not just a group. We gotta Mound wes Moore LLC.
20:22
Speaker 1: So it's a business, and you know, we funnel great
20:26
Speaker 1: ideas into the business. You know when it's when it's right.
20:30
Speaker 1: We let everybody know this is something that we should
20:32
Speaker 1: all attack that as a group and do it. But
20:36
Speaker 1: I know, I know we all involved in investment groups.
20:40
Speaker 1: I get to hint, hint, we should start them Mount
20:42
Speaker 1: wes More Investment Group. Yeah, well, DC, let's do it.
20:46
Speaker 1: Take him out wes Moore profits and put them in
20:48
Speaker 1: some businesses. Real talk, any new stuff coming from you? Forty?
20:53
Speaker 1: I feel like every other month there's like a new
20:54
Speaker 1: product I can eat or drink. So since the plandemic,
20:58
Speaker 1: I recorded over seventy songs since since I'm talking about
21:01
Speaker 1: since we finished the Mount wes Moore album because the
21:04
Speaker 1: grit done quick. But anyway, yeah, I got a Rule
21:06
Speaker 1: of Thumb coming. That's that's my that's two albums, oh
21:11
Speaker 1: Rule of Thumb. And I talked to Cban. I'm a
21:13
Speaker 1: team player. I don't know if it's possible for you
21:15
Speaker 1: to not drop a double album. I know every time
21:18
Speaker 1: drops it's a double album, it's a triple album. It's
21:20
Speaker 1: it's I think you put an EP out during the
21:22
Speaker 1: pandemic and I was surprised that you had an EP
21:24
Speaker 1: and not like a full project, right right right, Yeah, no,
21:27
Speaker 1: no EPs, no more. I did EPs when I was young,
21:29
Speaker 1: and I dropped one. I dropped one that I felt
21:31
Speaker 1: I needed to put out because it was on my heart.
21:33
Speaker 1: It was my real assignment. Before they were saying he
21:34
Speaker 1: understood the assignment, it was really my assignment to drop it.
21:39
Speaker 1: It was me as a little two year old kid,
21:42
Speaker 1: three year old kid, standing standing in front of a
21:46
Speaker 1: garbage can. It was a EP, but it was had
21:49
Speaker 1: some great songs on there, and it was rule of
21:50
Speaker 1: Thumb's next rule of Thumb is next rule of Thumb
21:54
Speaker 1: to two albums. And I don't know if I'm gonna
21:56
Speaker 1: drop him exactly at the same time or a week apart,
21:58
Speaker 1: but slaps, I got a couple more features I need.
22:04
Speaker 1: I need one. I already told Mount Westmore, I'm taking
22:06
Speaker 1: over this one song that I wanted, and they they
22:09
Speaker 1: agreed that I can have it, So I'm slapping that
22:11
Speaker 1: on it, and then I mean it slaps. I got
22:15
Speaker 1: features I got and I'm on their hold of my own.
22:18
Speaker 1: So you always have the features online and you always
22:20
Speaker 1: tapped in with the younger generation for always tapped in
22:22
Speaker 1: with the younger generation, you know, And I ain't no
22:25
Speaker 1: slacking in my mac and my lingos up to par
22:27
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be young. I ain't trying to
22:29
Speaker 1: be young, and I'm just trying to have a happy
22:30
Speaker 1: medium while I'm right there and I'm gassing and I'm
22:33
Speaker 1: ahead of my time, you know what I'm saying. I'm
22:35
Speaker 1: gonna ask y'all, because you guys all have classic bodies
22:38
Speaker 1: of work, solo cube, what is if you had to,
22:41
Speaker 1: what is your your magnum opus of your discography? What's
22:45
Speaker 1: your favorite album in your discography? Who do you think
22:49
Speaker 1: is the best? Obviously America's most one, got five mics
22:51
Speaker 1: in the sore Predator, you got Letho a jection. I
22:54
Speaker 1: mean we're going. I would say Death Certificate that you're
22:56
Speaker 1: probably the one because it's it's the most dynamic, you know.
23:04
Speaker 1: I think that's a great record. Uh, Predator is a
23:07
Speaker 1: pretty good record, Laugh Now, Cry Later is a good one,
23:11
Speaker 1: but Death Certificate is probably the cream of the crop.
23:14
Speaker 1: What about for your short album? That's the album probably
23:19
Speaker 1: the best too short album is probably Getting It album
23:21
Speaker 1: number ten, that's my favorite that's the that's the WHOA
23:26
Speaker 1: Got Orange cover that was on my man I had
23:28
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Production team that had been
23:30
Speaker 1: working together for like five albums. Shorty b At Banks
23:33
Speaker 1: Pee Wee myself, we were the core of like a
23:37
Speaker 1: production team that made a lot of music. It was
23:40
Speaker 1: a cohesive sound, it was. And before that, my top
23:46
Speaker 1: seller was Life Is Too Short. That's like classics. That's like,
23:49
Speaker 1: that's the only double platinum I had. But me, when
23:52
Speaker 1: I listened to music and the production, it's definitely getting it.
23:54
Speaker 1: That's the I was gonna ask you because you also
23:57
Speaker 1: like over the year short, like because you you guys
24:00
Speaker 1: have all been in this shit since the eighties, right,
24:03
Speaker 1: But like it's crazy when you listen to Life's Too Short,
24:07
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine like the shit you were saying
24:11
Speaker 1: on some of them records. Well, I used to have
24:14
Speaker 1: a technique where I kind of still do it. But
24:16
Speaker 1: I had a technique where before I would like write songs,
24:19
Speaker 1: I would just write down the craziest stuff I can
24:21
Speaker 1: think of, and just like you know, I guess it
24:23
Speaker 1: would be like the shock value of like a song,
24:25
Speaker 1: like cuss words had to be like at the time,
24:27
Speaker 1: like what the fuck or blow jow Betty had to
24:29
Speaker 1: be like people were like, what is going on? So
24:31
Speaker 1: was like really long and there's like a lot of
24:33
Speaker 1: rapping in like there's no hook on the ye the
24:35
Speaker 1: hook don't come like forty eight bars and you said,
24:38
Speaker 1: blow jow Betty's a true story. Yeah, I killed her.
24:41
Speaker 1: Oh that's terrible. She chunked on thespierm and died. But
24:44
Speaker 1: it was like so far back before social media and
24:46
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It didn't really get out there like that.
24:48
Speaker 1: Are you saying the Statute of Limitations is past? I
24:50
Speaker 1: mean didn't. It doesn't exist. There's no victim, there's no
24:53
Speaker 1: case to it. You have to go do some super forensics. Man,
24:58
Speaker 1: forty what's your best this album? Because you got a
25:02
Speaker 1: couple you could go with. There's a couple of errors
25:03
Speaker 1: we could go with. Yeah, can I say, can I
25:06
Speaker 1: go by the errors? Yeah? Of course. In the nineties
25:09
Speaker 1: it was okay, all right, one you might tell you
25:21
Speaker 1: what your favorite you album? Come on, man, it's easy. No,
25:25
Speaker 1: it ain't. No, it's not I have got two favorites.
25:28
Speaker 1: Then keep saying two favorites I got like I got hello,
25:32
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're dealing with a dude that got
25:34
Speaker 1: more top two hundred Billboard the album entries in the
25:39
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25:44
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25:46
Speaker 1: let me answer you for him. His favorite forty album
25:49
Speaker 1: is all the forty albums. Give me one, give me one.
25:53
Speaker 1: That's let me tell you the one you want me
25:56
Speaker 1: you I've can tell you something, The Game album. Give
25:59
Speaker 1: me two of them. I'm gonna give you two. Okay,
26:01
Speaker 1: give you two in a major way. Okay, and Element
26:07
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26:12
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26:20
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26:23
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26:25
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26:27
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26:31
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26:36
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26:39
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the interview. Uh, give me you
28:08
Speaker 1: guys each give me a new young, up and coming
28:10
Speaker 1: artist that y'all are fans of. That y'all respect you
28:12
Speaker 1: guys are actually listening to in your car when you're
28:14
Speaker 1: riding around. If any I would say, uh, the boyfriend this,
28:20
Speaker 1: it's two times on some pimp and Ship. He going crazy.
28:22
Speaker 1: His whole album is about pimping, is it. I interviewed
28:25
Speaker 1: him and he's like, I'm bringing the pimp and Ship back. Well,
28:27
Speaker 1: he's his gas that he's spitting his gas sugar free. Yeah,
28:32
Speaker 1: rather give you my bitch during the interviewer because he
28:34
Speaker 1: never heard of sugar Free and his whole his whole
28:36
Speaker 1: album is about pimping. Bro let me play something. Yeah.
28:39
Speaker 1: I like him. He carrying himself. Well, he's doing a
28:42
Speaker 1: great job. I got a couple of casts out of
28:44
Speaker 1: my area. I like a lot Russell, not just man.
28:49
Speaker 1: I was staying right outside the crest. Okay, yeah, for
28:53
Speaker 1: sure was active over there. That's seven eleven and Dad
28:58
Speaker 1: I was. I would have to say, it's a bunch
29:00
Speaker 1: trouble from the Bay. It's you know, Uh Simba killed
29:03
Speaker 1: him with the free you got Simba, you got, uh,
29:05
Speaker 1: you got, uh, the boys bank you got? You got?
29:10
Speaker 1: Who else? You got? What you got? Blast out of
29:14
Speaker 1: rich Man, shout out too short and have my favorite
29:16
Speaker 1: line on the Pilo album. There's so many you talk
29:18
Speaker 1: about having a bitch make money off for pee hoole.
29:21
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I was riding on the Bay Bridge listening
29:24
Speaker 1: to the Plow album and I was like, that is
29:26
Speaker 1: the most classic nineteen eighty nine too short shit to
29:29
Speaker 1: say in twenty twenty two. But you know, I got
29:33
Speaker 1: so many people to say, but we got it. Like
29:35
Speaker 1: you know, Kendrick is another level of like what hip
29:39
Speaker 1: hop should be doing. And he's like never cease to
29:42
Speaker 1: amaze with his visuals, with his stage performance and with
29:45
Speaker 1: his songs. Like he's just prolific period. So he's he's
29:50
Speaker 1: on another I'm proud of the West Coast for creating
29:52
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, what about you, QB nobody nobody. I
29:57
Speaker 1: like that. I mean shit, I respect that room. I
29:58
Speaker 1: only fuck with you know, when I'm making music, I
30:02
Speaker 1: don't need I only listen to what I'm making. I
30:06
Speaker 1: respect that old I don't want to be influenced by nobody. Yeah,
30:11
Speaker 1: little babies and ships. It's a bunch of artists out there.
30:14
Speaker 1: All I want to do is just screaming shout people
30:16
Speaker 1: out because I'm letting letting them know I recognize them.
30:19
Speaker 1: It's a whole bunch of people. I want to say.
30:21
Speaker 1: But I can't be money bag. I can't be influenced
30:24
Speaker 1: because I'm forty and there's on one of one. There's
30:26
Speaker 1: no one on this planet that throw like a frisbee
30:29
Speaker 1: that wrapped in caligraphy. Have you heard about West Moore album?
30:32
Speaker 1: I have not heard it yet. So when you listen,
30:34
Speaker 1: I heard like the singles, you know, I haven't heard
30:36
Speaker 1: the album. It's crazy, man, When you listen to the album,
30:38
Speaker 1: give me an email address. I see. When you listen
30:40
Speaker 1: to the album, it's gonna feel really good as you
30:43
Speaker 1: listen to it. But the one thing you will notice
30:46
Speaker 1: is that we're not pandering to the new sound I'm
30:49
Speaker 1: so happy you did not do that trying to be
30:52
Speaker 1: something that we're not, and we're alome. Imagine if I,
30:54
Speaker 1: like if I got the Mount wes Moore album and
30:56
Speaker 1: there was like some trapped out seventy four bps, I
30:59
Speaker 1: would be disgusted. We're also not trying to be nineteen
31:01
Speaker 1: ninety four. We're in there where it's like this. I
31:05
Speaker 1: want to hear these guys sound like this right now. Yo,
31:08
Speaker 1: Between the three of y'all, I'm not sure there's an
31:10
Speaker 1: artist that you guys haven't worked with. Obviously, you've worked
31:13
Speaker 1: with Pac before, You've worked with Hove Biggie. I mean,
31:15
Speaker 1: we go on and on. I mean Cube shit. I
31:18
Speaker 1: was just listening to the grand finale on the Little
31:21
Speaker 1: John on the East Side Boys album and I forgot
31:23
Speaker 1: Cube was on this ship and I was working out
31:25
Speaker 1: is there for each of you guys? Is there a
31:27
Speaker 1: feature that has not happened yet that just for whatever reason,
31:31
Speaker 1: the planets didn't align and you didn't You don't have
31:34
Speaker 1: a song with them yet. Nas. I love to do
31:40
Speaker 1: a song with Nas and Cube Crazy. You know, Rock Kim.
31:46
Speaker 1: I think everybody in the MC life wanted to do
31:50
Speaker 1: a song with Rock Kim at some point. You know,
31:54
Speaker 1: these are the ogs I think I could do a
31:56
Speaker 1: good song with Buster, Yeah, do a dope song together.
32:03
Speaker 1: You know, these are the ones that I think about
32:06
Speaker 1: that I know we could probably do something crazy. For me,
32:10
Speaker 1: it was always uh, it's just one answer. It was
32:12
Speaker 1: always like me Missy and timbling on the same record.
32:16
Speaker 1: I wanted that that would still possible. Yeah, that would
32:19
Speaker 1: have been in what About You forty? I would say, uh,
32:24
Speaker 1: jay Z nas Q, Tip karras one, Uh, Missy, who else?
32:34
Speaker 1: I love to do a song with Eminem people trick Daddy.
32:37
Speaker 1: I love trick Daddy. He's ready to trick. That would
32:40
Speaker 1: have been Yeah. And also, and like I said, I
32:43
Speaker 1: wanted to just address the Eminem situation. A lot of
32:45
Speaker 1: his fans thought that I was dissing him. No, I
32:48
Speaker 1: can never do that. He's one of the greatest MC's
32:49
Speaker 1: that ever did it and got away with it. Then
32:51
Speaker 1: he do his job right. But I was dating Somebody
32:54
Speaker 1: had asked me who would win in a versus battle,
32:59
Speaker 1: but Eminem and bust the rhyme, And I said, bust
33:03
Speaker 1: the rhyme versus just because versus just performers. Yeah, that's
33:09
Speaker 1: all I'm saying I wasn't knocking imminent. This is like
33:11
Speaker 1: a top got a lot of his so, you know,
33:15
Speaker 1: he get the party going here. It's crazy like live
33:17
Speaker 1: Bust is like it's like him tech dying and like,
33:19
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's all. That's all I meant a
33:21
Speaker 1: lot of sweat. Yeah, that's what I meant. I wasn't trying.
33:23
Speaker 1: I would never just eminem. He one of the greats,
33:26
Speaker 1: if not. I went to a Bust the show and
33:29
Speaker 1: he called me on stage and hugged me. I'm still man,
33:32
Speaker 1: you guys a sweat hood. He just hugged me. His
33:36
Speaker 1: energy is his energy is incredible. He's a great guy.
33:39
Speaker 1: He just drenched me. But I got a wrong with him. Yeah,
33:43
Speaker 1: we had a great versus right. It's amazing you were
33:46
Speaker 1: fucking I was on Mango scout off, drinking out the bottle.
33:52
Speaker 1: Nobody has decided to have fun like we did. Nobody
33:55
Speaker 1: it was my brother. It was the fun is doing
33:56
Speaker 1: this with my brother. Man, everybody got this different energy.
34:00
Speaker 1: It was the funnest to watch. I really really enjoyed
34:05
Speaker 1: their verse. It feels like the versus thing's over, right,
34:08
Speaker 1: But did they ever approach you to do something. Yeah,
34:11
Speaker 1: who was it against or who were they proposing? I
34:14
Speaker 1: think they was talking LL at one point. They was
34:17
Speaker 1: talking Scarface at one point he said no, Yeah, I
34:23
Speaker 1: said no. I said, I wouldn't know. Versus is good,
34:30
Speaker 1: but my concept would have been, Yo, I'm a fan,
34:37
Speaker 1: you do this song? You know what I mean? Yeah, Like, okay,
34:42
Speaker 1: I get to have LLL do my favorite LL songs
34:45
Speaker 1: and he gonna have me do his favorite ice cube songs, right,
34:48
Speaker 1: and it's not versus, but it's it's love. It's like, yo,
34:53
Speaker 1: do do this? And then he do rock to bells
34:56
Speaker 1: And he asked me, Yo, do once upon a time
34:58
Speaker 1: of the projects? And now do it? You know It's
35:00
Speaker 1: like that's that would have been my concept. I can't
35:04
Speaker 1: go against you know, people admire you know, L is
35:07
Speaker 1: a o G to me of course in the game,
35:11
Speaker 1: so I can't see it. Me and Scarface, you know,
35:16
Speaker 1: I know they love each other. Me and Scarface love
35:19
Speaker 1: each other, but we don't we don't communicate enough to
35:23
Speaker 1: do it versus together. Well, when they when they get
35:26
Speaker 1: there to competent, I was like, this is just gonna
35:29
Speaker 1: be too fast for They had to talk me into it.
35:33
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. I refuse to do it. We
35:35
Speaker 1: talked with Versus first came out. He's like, hey man,
35:37
Speaker 1: we talked about all kinds of stuff. He's like, would
35:39
Speaker 1: you do a versus. I'm like, nah, would never do that.
35:42
Speaker 1: Like I'm not like and and and and sort of
35:44
Speaker 1: what C was saying, My catalog is too it's too
35:49
Speaker 1: sacred to even like put it up for a debate
35:52
Speaker 1: on like a battle or like let me battle my
35:54
Speaker 1: catalog again. She's like, get out of here, man, Like
35:57
Speaker 1: this is this is like a sacred Indian burial ground.
36:00
Speaker 1: Like you can't walk on this, you can't put this
36:02
Speaker 1: up for competition. So I could be up there having
36:05
Speaker 1: one of my favorite mc is talking greasy and ship.
36:09
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, just or if you just
36:12
Speaker 1: had to smash him, I don't want to because you
36:15
Speaker 1: got a lot of hits. Yeah, we agreed on it.
36:19
Speaker 1: We agreed on it, and a celebration. It's gonna be
36:21
Speaker 1: a celebration. So we just went up there and have fun.
36:24
Speaker 1: We was We wasn't and that's what it felt liked.
36:27
Speaker 1: X had a good spirit. Yeah, but you know you
36:30
Speaker 1: got crazy, you know after that, you know the three six.
36:37
Speaker 1: My favorite was Guccy and Jeezy because I know that
36:38
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Speaker 1: H cbe I saw, I saw you talk about Big
38:37
Speaker 1: Three and kind of Adam Silver's like lack of support. Yeah,
38:41
Speaker 1: he need to go. I saw you. I mean yeah,
38:44
Speaker 1: I mean you're obviously a big NBA fan historically, you've
38:48
Speaker 1: been one of the biggest Laker fans. Yes, sitting court
38:51
Speaker 1: side all the years. Yeah, well I was in my suite.
38:54
Speaker 1: I wouldn't foot on the wood, but I was. Would
38:58
Speaker 1: you say your lack of approval of a guy like
39:01
Speaker 1: Adam Silver has affected you watching the product as a fan,
39:05
Speaker 1: of course, you know, understanding the things that they're doing
39:09
Speaker 1: to prevent the Big Three from growing, mainly considering our
39:15
Speaker 1: league as competition, which is fucking ridiculous. We're three on three,
39:21
Speaker 1: we've been around six years. They're five on five, they've
39:25
Speaker 1: been around seventy six years. Right, it's no competition. We're complementary,
39:31
Speaker 1: and but label on us. Competition prevents other NBA owners
39:36
Speaker 1: from investing, and if you even think you want to
39:40
Speaker 1: own an NBA team, you won't invest because this would
39:45
Speaker 1: disqualify you if you invest in a Big Three before
39:49
Speaker 1: you bought your NBA team, So it eliminates a lot
39:53
Speaker 1: of potential investors. They also are you know, going to
39:58
Speaker 1: sponsors that they work with and telling them don't work
40:03
Speaker 1: with them the Big Three. So it's a major issue.
40:07
Speaker 1: All he has to do is is not include the
40:11
Speaker 1: Big Three in that clause as a competing league and
40:17
Speaker 1: then we can work with a lot of the same people.
40:21
Speaker 1: But you know, this is a black owned league. It
40:26
Speaker 1: has you know, some of the greatest Hall of famers
40:29
Speaker 1: that ever played involved in the league as coaches, you know,
40:33
Speaker 1: from Doctor j to Rick Berry to also people who
40:36
Speaker 1: are actively involved in like the NBA culture who commentated
40:39
Speaker 1: on TV and all all that. Yeah, so these are
40:43
Speaker 1: you know, NBA legends who helped us form this league,
40:47
Speaker 1: NBA family, and for them to shiit on it like that,
40:51
Speaker 1: I think is very disrespectful. You know, Doctor j Iceman,
40:58
Speaker 1: Rick Berry, they didn't make a lot of money in
41:02
Speaker 1: the NBA, but the NBA made a lot of money
41:05
Speaker 1: off them, and for them to shoot on the league
41:08
Speaker 1: that they're involved in, it's three on three to me
41:14
Speaker 1: shows that Adam Silver is out of touch. He was
41:17
Speaker 1: supposed to bring Ice Cuban say, I would love to
41:20
Speaker 1: be a part of it, and I want you to
41:22
Speaker 1: be the president of the jolly took. We offered the
41:24
Speaker 1: NBA ten percent of the league before we started, so
41:28
Speaker 1: we went in bearing gifts. He told us thank you,
41:33
Speaker 1: but no thank you, and then proceeded to fuck with
41:37
Speaker 1: us for these last six years. What's crazy because it's
41:40
Speaker 1: the competition part is wild. It's like you guys are
41:42
Speaker 1: obviously it's a different time of the year and all
41:47
Speaker 1: it's all players who are known through the NBA. So
41:50
Speaker 1: it just raises brand awareness for the NBA players that
41:53
Speaker 1: the NBA have overlooked. And you know they come and
41:57
Speaker 1: get our players and invite it. I mean Joe Johnson
42:00
Speaker 1: and got signed off of his running the Big Three again,
42:02
Speaker 1: they invite him to the NBA camps. We have general
42:07
Speaker 1: managers coming to the game owners. Everybody comes to embraced
42:12
Speaker 1: it worse, I don't think so. But David Stern did
42:17
Speaker 1: like what we were doing, but he couldn't get involved
42:21
Speaker 1: because he's you know, ex commissioner, your ex commissioner with
42:25
Speaker 1: the NBA and Adam silverst they just lawyers when it
42:28
Speaker 1: comes down to it. Right at the end of the day,
42:30
Speaker 1: they are just lawyers. And I think he's making a
42:33
Speaker 1: big mistake, and I think not embracing the Big Three
42:38
Speaker 1: will be his downfall. Let me ask you this, because
42:42
Speaker 1: do you think it could take somebody like a Steph
42:45
Speaker 1: Curry or like a Lebron to kind of step in
42:49
Speaker 1: and fully embrace the league like that to kind of
42:51
Speaker 1: change someone like Adam Silver's perspective on it. Maybe, you know,
42:56
Speaker 1: Lebron has come to our games. You know, he went
42:58
Speaker 1: to the championship and twenty nineteen Michael Jordan loves our league. Ship. Yeah,
43:06
Speaker 1: I'm surprised he ain't just say give me one. I'll
43:08
Speaker 1: go one round with y'all. No, I don't think you
43:11
Speaker 1: want to get out there, you know, I think that's
43:13
Speaker 1: the past. But but for the most part, he loves
43:16
Speaker 1: the league, and uh, you know, people like Adam told
43:19
Speaker 1: him not to work with us, and so it's just
43:23
Speaker 1: it's time for this dude to go because he's shown
43:25
Speaker 1: that he's not really down with the culture. What are
43:30
Speaker 1: the things you are are going to try to do
43:32
Speaker 1: to grow the Big Three? Put a better product on
43:37
Speaker 1: the court, you know, take care of our sponsors. You know,
43:46
Speaker 1: be the best innovative new league that the world have seen,
43:51
Speaker 1: and you know, get the fans what they pay for.
43:55
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, just just do better, and you
43:59
Speaker 1: know tried to, you know, get from under these grips
44:02
Speaker 1: that the NBA has us under because it is hurting
44:05
Speaker 1: us in more ways than one. Yeah. Yeah, man, shit,
44:10
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44:12
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44:15
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44:18
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44:20
Speaker 1: They're fun. They are what's the OG's name? Who had?
44:23
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44:26
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44:29
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44:31
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44:33
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44:37
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44:41
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44:44
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44:46
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44:49
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44:52
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44:55
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44:58
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45:02
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45:04
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45:08
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45:12
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45:15
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Speaker 1: Warner Brothers having the rights to distribute the Friday series. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and that's obviously your intellectual property right. You came up
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Speaker 1: with that movie. Yeah, the most impactful movie my entire life.
47:31
Speaker 1: I was talking like Smokey from like age eight to twelve,
47:34
Speaker 1: my favorite, that's my favorite movie, one of my favorites.
47:37
Speaker 1: I know that entire movie by heart, like it's bad,
47:39
Speaker 1: Like I could recite it when I watch it. I
47:41
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47:44
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47:47
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47:52
Speaker 1: somebody who's been revolutionary in so many ways, is that
47:57
Speaker 1: a like what lessons did you learn from the Friday
48:00
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48:03
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48:07
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48:11
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48:13
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48:17
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48:19
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48:26
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48:33
Speaker 1: can the right of thatt So at the time we
48:36
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48:42
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48:48
Speaker 1: And New Line is connected with Warner Brothers. So you know,
48:53
Speaker 1: sometimes when you do one movie with a company, they
48:57
Speaker 1: have the rights to release the sequels. That's part of
49:01
Speaker 1: the deal, and that's the clause that we're called in.
49:04
Speaker 1: You know, they have the right to release the sequels.
49:08
Speaker 1: And so the way to stellmate is to not release,
49:12
Speaker 1: you know, to do a few and stop, and that's
49:15
Speaker 1: what they did. They did three and they stopped, and
49:19
Speaker 1: we've been asking them to get the movie back. Here's
49:22
Speaker 1: why they won't get a movie back. Right along, straight
49:26
Speaker 1: out of Compton New Line had both of those movies.
49:30
Speaker 1: They told me both of those movies would not work
49:32
Speaker 1: on a major scale. We took those movies out of
49:36
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, took them to Universal, you know. So they
49:41
Speaker 1: worked one hundred and fifty million dollars from Ride Along,
49:44
Speaker 1: two hundred million from Straight Out of two hundred and
49:47
Speaker 1: fifty from Straight out of Compton. So we really embarrassed
49:51
Speaker 1: embarrassed them. So they was like, man, you really embarrassed
49:54
Speaker 1: us on that, you know what I mean, Like damn.
49:57
Speaker 1: So we was like, man, y'all, don't believe in us,
50:00
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50:02
Speaker 1: give you another movie back because I'll get fired, you know.
50:05
Speaker 1: So it was on that tip. You know, they didn't
50:07
Speaker 1: want to be embarrassed, so they didn't want to let Friday. Yeah,
50:11
Speaker 1: as a fight, I was. I always just assume Chris
50:13
Speaker 1: Tucker was just not wanting to do it because because
50:15
Speaker 1: after the third win, it was like, Okay, if they
50:17
Speaker 1: do a fourth, Smokey gotta come back. Yeah, And obviously,
50:20
Speaker 1: rest in peace to John Witherspoon. Tiny Lister, Tiny Lister
50:25
Speaker 1: pass There's some very big parts of that universe that
50:30
Speaker 1: have passed. Yeah, man, And that's why I hate you
50:32
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, because they they let that happen. We could
50:35
Speaker 1: have shot those movies way before those guys passed away.
50:41
Speaker 1: I'll never forgive Toby Emrick and the guys that was
50:44
Speaker 1: running the show at the time. Uh you know they
50:51
Speaker 1: let guys pass away who was counting on this movie. Yeah,
50:55
Speaker 1: and that universe like fed fed a lot of Like, dude,
50:57
Speaker 1: I remember you would just go to like the Monster
51:00
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51:02
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51:06
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51:09
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51:22
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51:29
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51:32
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51:41
Speaker 1: are Mount wes Moore. The album it comes out Friday.
51:46
Speaker 1: I'm very excited this is I'm so glad you guys
51:49
Speaker 1: put this together. I'm so glad it's actually coming out,
51:51
Speaker 1: because I really I didn't believe it was gonnappen until
51:54
Speaker 1: y'all did the Triller Ship and then that song came out,
51:57
Speaker 1: and then it was quiet, and I was like, we
52:00
Speaker 1: got one record, you know. Yeah, well, uh now you
52:04
Speaker 1: could like not believe that the second album is coming out.
52:07
Speaker 1: There's plans to do a second album is already done.
52:09
Speaker 1: We did like we did songs fifty is this all
52:13
Speaker 1: happening at the compound and snoop spot like where you
52:15
Speaker 1: guys recording? We did it all over the studios. So
52:18
Speaker 1: and we might add a few more new ones to us,
52:21
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because we we we in
52:23
Speaker 1: that mode. It's easy. It's so simple, I can tell
52:25
Speaker 1: you person. You know, second album is hope as fuck.
52:29
Speaker 1: It's hard slaps. It's hard for us to make a
52:31
Speaker 1: bad record together. Yeah, of course, so we gotta kind
52:36
Speaker 1: of work hard to make a bad record. Did you
52:39
Speaker 1: guys try to kick the doctor Dre Tree to get
52:41
Speaker 1: a beat or something like one of those millions of
52:43
Speaker 1: Detok songs that he didn't doesn't ever plan on releasing.
52:46
Speaker 1: I think I think droped doctor Dre is the greatest
52:49
Speaker 1: producer in hip hop of all time. I think sometime
52:53
Speaker 1: we can overthink. You know, you know when we played Dominos,
52:55
Speaker 1: we placed, we say steady wrong, steady long, steady wrong.
52:58
Speaker 1: Wh when you take too long to play it. I'm
53:00
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not saying he steady wrong. It's just he's
53:03
Speaker 1: a perfectionist. And album he is on here, he one
53:08
Speaker 1: of the songs. Yeah he did well, that's all that matters.
53:11
Speaker 1: But we will. I think we're going to get a
53:12
Speaker 1: song out of Dre. I think he just gonna get
53:14
Speaker 1: a few. We loved Dray, you know it's the only
53:17
Speaker 1: song well. I mean, you know what I was gonna say,
53:19
Speaker 1: I forgot about like you. But I think in like
53:24
Speaker 1: peak like nineties hip hop like it was, was it
53:27
Speaker 1: only natural Born Killers that y'all did together? Like after
53:29
Speaker 1: n w A happened natural Born Killers, we did that?
53:33
Speaker 1: The check chack? What about the hello was a slap? Hello?
53:41
Speaker 1: This was hard? Yo? What's yeah? How close were y'all
53:45
Speaker 1: doing the fucking new n w A with Snoop? Was that? Like?
53:47
Speaker 1: How where those songs at? Not close? At all. It's
53:50
Speaker 1: like you heard the songs they came out. We were
53:52
Speaker 1: about to get into it, and then he he met
53:55
Speaker 1: him and them, and then he met he met a
53:58
Speaker 1: fifty and it was like chin check was fire. Yeah,
54:01
Speaker 1: he met he met those two dudes, and that just
54:04
Speaker 1: took his attention. I mean, listen, Drea is a genius.
54:08
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get something well the album. He's been sending
54:12
Speaker 1: me a lot of He was an early on Mount
54:14
Speaker 1: wes Moore supporter. He got caught wind of the project
54:16
Speaker 1: early through Snoop. He put up the Snoop studio, he
54:19
Speaker 1: put a stamp of approval on it. He jumped on
54:21
Speaker 1: the song. We got a song with him, but it's
54:22
Speaker 1: not it didn't make this album on the second album.
54:25
Speaker 1: And then the rivalry within the crew obviously the NBA,
54:29
Speaker 1: but you know, uh, Warriors Lakers, right sports, Yeah, Warriors
54:33
Speaker 1: is new money. Forty nine ers, Raiders Lakers is own money.
54:36
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54:41
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54:44
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54:46
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54:49
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54:53
Speaker 1: Y'all got the most. Y'all definitely got all the rings.
54:56
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54:59
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55:03
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55:04
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55:07
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55:10
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55:13
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55:18
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55:20
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55:22
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55:27
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55:30
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55:33
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55:36
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55:40
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55:43
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's bleeding through the microphone. Are you are
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Speaker 1: you a Raider fan? Cube? Yeah? I mean this is
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Speaker 1: Ice Cube, the president of Raider Nation. What four four?
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Speaker 1: The Raiders can go one? The Raiders could go one
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Speaker 1: in sixteen the whole year. You understand me, through the
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Speaker 1: whole year. Have you guys been have let's been to
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Speaker 1: a Rams game and listen to me. I hear I
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Speaker 1: need you to hear me on this. I need you
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Speaker 1: to hear this. I need you to hear this. I
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Speaker 1: need you to hear this. The Raiders. Look, I don't
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Speaker 1: hate the Raiders. This the fans. I don't hate the fans.
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Speaker 1: It's just certain. It's l A radio. I know. I
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Speaker 1: love this, the l A radio. They're trying to sell
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Speaker 1: some records. Let me talk. Let me talk. They've supported
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Speaker 1: me more just as much as the Bay Area if not. So,
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Speaker 1: it's not about that. It's nothing nothing against there's nothing
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Speaker 1: you wearing silver and black man listens? Are you talking
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Speaker 1: over me? Because this guy's always talking and ship I'm
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Speaker 1: a fucking Cardinal fan. He's a Niner fan in the
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Speaker 1: same division. I hate. Let me say this. Let me
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Speaker 1: just let me say this. The Raider fans Okay, it
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Speaker 1: could be they could be the Raiders. The Raiders do great.
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Speaker 1: I like they be. They be bowing their own quarterback car.
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, why are you? Why are you boring
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Speaker 1: the beloved car? See they get upset and we love
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Speaker 1: thanks for fucking TRAI laders. Listen, listen, listen. Yeah, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna rap. That's why. That's why we're gonna win this
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Speaker 1: whole thing. But listen, let me say this. This, This
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Speaker 1: is the common denominator of my whole thing from this,
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Speaker 1: the whole reason I got on the microphone. Okay, go ahead,
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Speaker 1: get it out. The Raider fans. Look, could the Raiders
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Speaker 1: could be one and the Raiders could be one in sixteen,
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Speaker 1: you drunk, stop drinking my wine one sixteen. The readis
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Speaker 1: go one in sixteen and be like Raider name shot
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Speaker 1: one in sixteen, bro, like they won the fucking super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: It's all good man. Hey, look, most overrated dynasty of
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Speaker 1: all time. The Warriors appreciate you guys coming through your team.
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Speaker 1: Who's your team? Don't worry about me? Oh, y'all stop
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Speaker 1: it man, floor, go run that ship up, hey, go by, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I love y'all in l A I love y'all, Thank
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Speaker 1: you for everything.