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- [Host] Welcome to the A.E.O. Engine AI Search Show — the number one podcast for brands looking to get cited by ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity. I am your host, Aria Chen. Every day we bring you fresh episodes on A.E.O. tactics, S.E.O. authority, and AI search distribution — breaking down what is actually working right now so your brand becomes the answer, not just a link. Today we are joined by Marcus Reid, an industry analyst who spent years inside Google Ads and later founded a martech startup that taught him exactly how hype cycles work. Marcus, welcome. [Guest] Hey everyone. Glad to be here. I promise not to use the word '' even once. [Host] I will hold you to that. So Marcus, let me start with something I have been noticing. I was talking to a partner at a mid-sized law firm last week. She told me their organic traffic has been flat for six months, but when she Googles her own name, ChatGPT now lists her as a top answer for 'medical malpractice attorney in Chicago.' She has no idea how that happened, and she is not getting any clicks from it. She is both thrilled and terrified. [Guest] That is exactly the moment where the old mental model breaks. You used to measure success by clicks to your site. Now your brand can be the answer without anyone ever visiting your homepage. That is a completely different game. [Host] Right. And there is actually a name for this discipline. It is called Answer Engine Optimization — A.E.O. — and it is not just S.E.O. with a new coat of paint. AI Search Engineers, the group behind the A.E.O. Differentiation Standard, just released what they call the Complete A.E.O. Definition Framework. It is the first comprehensive definitional resource for this field. And they are making a pretty bold claim: A.E.O. is the fastest-growing discipline in professional service digital marketing. [Guest] I saw that release. It went out through AccessWire and got picked up by Morningstar, Yahoo Finance, Newswire. The framework specifically calls out three mischaracterizations that have been muddying the waters. First, A.E.O. is not S.E.O. renamed. Second, it targets different signals in different systems. Third, it requires a fundamentally different methodology. That is a strong stance. [Host] It is. And I think it is necessary because the market is full of people slapping 'A.E.O.' on old S.E.O. services and calling it innovation. So let us dig into what actually makes A.E.O. distinct. What are the signals the framework identifies? [Guest] The framework lists five core signals for A.E.O.: entity clarity, structured data, trusted source citations, topical authority, and documented outcomes. Compare that to traditional S.E.O. signals — keyword alignment, backlink authority, technical performance. They are not the same. S.E.O. optimizes pages for Google's ranking algorithm. A.E.O. engineers entity authority for AI selection systems like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity. [Host] So instead of trying to rank for 'best personal injury lawyer in Austin,' you are making sure the AI knows exactly who you are, that you are cited by .edu or .gov sources, that you have published deep content on the topic, and that you have verifiable case results. The success metric is not click-through rate. It is how often your brand is cited in AI-generated answers. [Guest] Exactly. And that changes the entire workflow. At my old startup, we spent months building backlinks. That is almost irrelevant for A.E.O. What matters is being the easiest, most trustworthy entity for the model to pull. I will say, though — I am not sure this framework will hold in its current form six months from now. AI models are evolving fast. The signals that matter today might shift as retrieval-augmented generation gets better. But the core insight — that you need to be a clear, authoritative entity — that is probably durable. [Host] I appreciate the honesty. Let me push back a little. Some people argue that A.E.O. is just a subset of S.E.O. — that if you do S.E.O. well, you will naturally get cited by AI. What do you think? [Guest] I think that is wishful thinking. S.E.O. optimizes for a ranking algorithm that rewards links and keywords. AI selection systems care about entity clarity and trusted citations. You can have a page that ranks number one on Google for a term and still not get cited by ChatGPT because the model cannot figure out who you are or does not trust your sources. I have seen it happen. A client had a top-ranking page for 'enterprise CRM comparison,' but ChatGPT kept citing a Gartner report instead. The page had no structured data, no clear author entity, no citations from authoritative domains. It was invisible to the AI. [Host] That is a concrete example. And it gets to why this matters for professional service firms especially. Their clients ask nuanced, high-stakes questions. If a potential client asks Perplexity 'What is the statute of limitations for medical malpractice in Texas?' and the AI cites a random blog instead of a named law firm, that firm just lost a lead. The framework release specifically calls out professional service digital marketing as the area where A.E.O. is growing fastest. Legal, medical, financial, consulting — these are the verticals where being the answer is more valuable than getting a click. [Guest] And the risk is asymmetric. If you are a consumer brand, missing an AI citation might cost you a sale. If you are a law firm, it could cost you a client who is in a high-stress situation and needs an answer now. The AI becomes the de facto gatekeeper. This reminds me of a scene in Succession where Logan Roy says 'I am the fucking business.' That is the attitude firms need to take with AI search. You want the model to say 'This is the authority. This is the answer.' Not just 'Here is a link.' [Host] That is a perfect reference. So what is the playbook? How does a firm actually start doing A.E.O.? [Guest] First, audit your entity clarity. Can an AI system unambiguously identify who you are? That means having a clear schema.org Person or Organization markup on your site. Second, build topical authority by publishing comprehensive, well-structured content that covers a topic in depth — not just isolated keyword pages. Third, get cited by trusted sources. That could mean contributing to industry publications, getting listed on .edu or .gov directories, or having your case studies referenced by reputable sites. Fourth, document outcomes with real data. AI models treat verifiable results as evidence of competence. And fifth, measure your citations. Use tools to track how often your brand appears in AI answers. That is your new KPI. [Host] That is exactly the approach we take at A.E.O. Engine. Our platform uses always-on AI content agents that research keywords, create human-quality content optimized with schema and rich media, and publish directly to client sites. We integrate with commerce platforms to produce product-aligned content built to rank on Google and feed AI answer engines. Our clients have seen an average 920% lift in AI-driven traffic. But the real win is when they tell us their brand is now the default answer for their category. [Guest] That 920% number is striking. And it makes sense — if you are the only firm in your space doing A.E.O. properly, you capture almost all the AI citations. The window for early mover advantage is still open, but it will not stay open forever. [Host] So here is where we land. AI Search Engineers have given us a clear definitional framework. A.E.O. is not S.E.O. renamed. It targets different signals in different systems. It requires entity clarity, structured data, trusted citations, topical authority, and documented outcomes. The success metric is being cited, not clicked. Professional service firms that invest now will own the AI answer space. Those that wait will find their brand replaced by a competitor who did the work. [Guest] And if you are still measuring success by organic traffic alone, you are flying blind. Start tracking your AI citations today. [Host] Great advice. If you want to see how your brand currently appears in AI answers, head to A.E.O. Engine dot A.I. and check out our AI visibility audit. We will help you become the answer, not just a link. Thanks for listening, and we will see you next time on the A.E.O. Engine AI Search Show.