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Spoiled Saturdays: Scream Therapy · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I've never told you productive I
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  Speaker 2: heartd you, and welcome to another edition of Spoiled Saturdays.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we haven't been consistent necessarily with what
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: should be.
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  Speaker 1: A spoiled I thought we had a timeline.
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  Speaker 2: There is a timeline, but we've definitely done some movies
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  Speaker 2: and it's usually my fault that probably should have been
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  Speaker 2: a spoiled Saturday because well, I think it's changed now
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  Speaker 2: because of social media, but the long standing rules ten years.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I've definitely spoiled on Wolverine and Deadpool, Like I
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  Speaker 1: know a thing's coming and I'm like, oh, well that's
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  Speaker 1: social media media culture.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, immediately like, well.
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  Speaker 1: I don't hate it.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes I do?
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  Speaker 1: You do you hate it? Generally? Like the weight in
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  Speaker 1: the build up, I do not care, as in fact
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  Speaker 1: I need it. Probably.
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  Speaker 2: I like the choice. I wish we had more choice
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  Speaker 2: because I actually read a whole interesting article about that
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  Speaker 2: and fall out where people were like, we really should
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  Speaker 2: have not binged this, We should have like had more
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  Speaker 2: time to talk about this. It's like, well, yep, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of thoughts about it, and I
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of thoughts about this movie, but this
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  Speaker 2: one is definitely a spoiled Saturday because it came out
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: I this is actually kind of related to what we
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  Speaker 2: were just talking about. I mentioned it recently. I've sort
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  Speaker 2: of been in a strange place where I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to watch things that I love, like television, don't want
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  Speaker 2: to watch television shows. Essentially. I was always kind of
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  Speaker 2: weird about watching television shows because I get committed and
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  Speaker 2: then I get stuck and I've but usually even if
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to watch a TV show, I would
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  Speaker 2: watch it if it was like a show I really liked,
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  Speaker 2: or franchise really liked or something. And I'm taking I've
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  Speaker 2: taken a step back from that four Now. I will
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  Speaker 2: get to it all eventually, but I was taking a
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  Speaker 2: step back, which means I've watched a lot of horror movies,
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  Speaker 2: so many horror movies, and like horror movies that are
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  Speaker 2: just one and done and I could move on. So
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  Speaker 2: that's how I found this movie, which is not a
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  Speaker 2: horror movie by the way, it was advertised to me
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  Speaker 2: as one.
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  Speaker 1: It's that as a horror comedy. That's how I advertised it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a horror comedy. I think it just came up.
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  Speaker 2: I think I had a free trial of something and
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  Speaker 2: it was under like you know the horror banner. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I just read the description and I was like, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I will watch this.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you would be the one to find
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  Speaker 1: this movie. I think you are.
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  Speaker 2: It's publicity to be I told you, if I have
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  Speaker 2: more time, I would start a blog. Yeah, that's just
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  Speaker 2: like obscure horror movies I have found, Yes, because a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times after I watch a horror movie I
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  Speaker 2: like to look it up afterwards and you know, did
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  Speaker 2: I miss something? Was there's some deeper meaning? I did
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  Speaker 2: write there was like nothing for this movie. There was
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  Speaker 2: nothing for several movies I've watched recently, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I could really write something about I could be the
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  Speaker 2: one that could.
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  Speaker 1: Be the one. Maybe you should be the one.
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  Speaker 2: Here we are with the podcast about it. Yes, and
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  Speaker 2: I did watch this recently with several I've watched it
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  Speaker 2: several times with different friends and it's been really really
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  Speaker 2: fun because nobody knows what the hell's gonna happen in it,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, yep, it's a fun time. We're
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  Speaker 2: talking about twenty movie Scream Therapy, and this I will say,
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  Speaker 2: as far as spoiled Saturdays go, if you are really
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  Speaker 2: looking for something that's not too long, it's like eighty
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  Speaker 2: minutes and it's a wild time and you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be spoiled. I liked going into it not knowing anything.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was super fun. Then I highly highly
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  Speaker 2: recommend you do that and then come back and just
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  Speaker 2: quick CW. I don't think we're really going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about it, but there's a lot of discussion of drugs
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  Speaker 2: and drinking in this movie. There's a lot of murder.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it depends on your definition of a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but I feel like one is enough. So there's murder.
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  Speaker 2: There is murder. So I will just put that in
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  Speaker 2: there and we are going to talk about it because
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of key to some plot points. So yeah, Samantha,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just run through the plot do it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I could do it justice.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it is truly a wild one, so
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  Speaker 2: bear with me here.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Screen Therapy is Yes a twenty twenty three movie written
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  Speaker 2: and directed by Cassie Keat, who also briefly cameos in
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  Speaker 2: it and sings in it. I think it stars Harley
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  Speaker 2: Brownwin as Avery, Rochelle Anderson as Jillian, Mandy Chung as Dylan, Jerry,
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  Speaker 2: Courtney Austin as Mary, Beth, Claire de Lamar as Nora,
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Flakis as Jeremiah Skuyler, Bible as Zachariah, and Joan
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  Speaker 2: Kubisek as Billy, Which is interesting because I have a
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  Speaker 2: friend with that same name who's also an actor. I
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  Speaker 2: had to look it up. I was like, that, wasn't
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  Speaker 2: you have you moved on and changed a lot anyway.
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  Speaker 2: It opens with a group of five friends, Avery, Dylan, Mary, Beth,
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  Speaker 2: Nora and Jillian all at this party. They are clearly
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  Speaker 2: very close, and we later find out they call themselves
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  Speaker 2: in a bunch of group activities like improv the mother Mermaids.
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  Speaker 2: At this party, Avery breaks up with her boyfriend of
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  Speaker 2: seven years after an argument about marriage. She's basically like,
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  Speaker 2: he's like, oh, good thing, We're never gonna get married,
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  Speaker 2: and she's like what and then it just goes downhill
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  Speaker 2: from there. She descends into post break up sadness, but
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: her friends are determined to help her, so they drag
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  Speaker 2: her to an Airbnb that they've rented in the desert
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  Speaker 2: for scream therapy, something Dylan says she got really into
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: after watching Midsomar. This is another movie we've never done.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about it a lot, but we've.
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  Speaker 1: Never done it. We not. I keep thinking we have.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't, but we've talked about it several times. We
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  Speaker 2: have talked about it several times, so maybe in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Their airbnb is super isolated in the desert, and it
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: has two houses, and they designate one for the people
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  Speaker 2: who are going to do acid, which after a vote yes,
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  Speaker 2: after a vote is Dylan and Nora, and then the
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  Speaker 2: other one is for the ones who won't be doing acid.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't take onnkra Avery to find herself on the
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  Speaker 2: roof screaming about her breakup, how she feels she's ruined
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  Speaker 2: everything and it's too late to fix it, even though
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  Speaker 2: she is still in love with her ex. Her friends
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  Speaker 2: join her, and we learn all of their lives are
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: in some form of flux or chaos. Dylan lost her
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  Speaker 2: job at the bar she worked at after punching the manager.
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  Speaker 2: Gillian is afraid she won't be good at being a
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  Speaker 2: single mom. Mary Beth is bored and broke and super
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: into Nicholas Cage. I love that she has a hoodie
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: that just says Nicholas Cage face. That is so good.
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  Speaker 1: She I really thought she was talking about Nicholas's Cage's face.
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  Speaker 2: His face, Yes, but it's just been written. Yeah, Oh
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  Speaker 2: my gosh, it's so good. And she thinks that all
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  Speaker 2: of her choices have been wrong, and Nora joins in
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  Speaker 2: with everything is pretty okay, but I didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: feel left out. But we learn her apartment burned down.
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  Speaker 2: She's bunk with Dylan. Yeah, she seems trying to. They
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  Speaker 2: decide to go to a bar, which is like one
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  Speaker 2: of the only places nearby for dinner and drinks, where
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  Speaker 2: they argue about who is the wild card in the group.
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  Speaker 2: Something is immediately off about the bar when they come in, though.
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  Speaker 2: There's just like a lot of creepy dudes eyeing them.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of missing people posters on the door.
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  Speaker 2: The bartender, Billy is cool, though the group is impressed
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  Speaker 2: with her and the cheapness of the alcohol. While Dylan
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  Speaker 2: is harassed by a dude with an Asian fetish, Nora
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  Speaker 2: sees two cute guys sort of dressed in a way
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  Speaker 2: that was just a religion of some type, like Mormons,
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  Speaker 2: is the vibe I was getting. Apologies, but that was
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  Speaker 2: just the vibe I was kidding. The group proceeds to
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  Speaker 2: get absolutely wasted, save Jillian. The next day, they are
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: completely hungover except for Jillian, and don't even wake up
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  Speaker 2: until late in the afternoon. They are too hung over
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  Speaker 2: to do screen therapy. However, Dylan and Nora do take
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  Speaker 2: the acid as planned, and we cut to night time,
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  Speaker 2: the two of them running wildly saying things like oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm never gonna die. Mary Beth and Jill convince Avery
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  Speaker 2: to unblock her ex on social media and like just
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  Speaker 2: in general on her phone, but they are then distracted
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  Speaker 2: by a call by Dylan and Nora to moon the moon.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, they show their ass to the moon their
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  Speaker 2: bee hole, as Dylan calls it. When they get back
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  Speaker 2: to the house, something seems off. The doors open. One
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  Speaker 2: by one they are captured by the two men that
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  Speaker 2: were in that kind of religious get up from the bar.
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  Speaker 2: I'll except Dylan, Nora, and Jill are tied to a
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  Speaker 2: pole while Mary Beth and Avery are tied to chairs.
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  Speaker 2: In this lit up circle with Avery convinced that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be killed. The two men are arguing about
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  Speaker 2: what to do with Nora and Jill, because one of
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  Speaker 2: them doesn't want to kill them and the other ones like, yep,
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: we have to, and they get a call from their
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  Speaker 2: mysterious leader telling them to tie up any loose ends,
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  Speaker 2: including Dylan. Meanwhile, Dylan, who is quite high, pops up
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  Speaker 2: and is able to communicate with her friends and is
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  Speaker 2: now on a mission to free them. Zachariah thanks Avery
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  Speaker 2: and mary Beth for being sacrifices, but Dylan distracts him
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  Speaker 2: before he can continue. She's able to free Nora and
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  Speaker 2: Jill before Zachariah and Jeremiah realize that it was a
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  Speaker 2: ruse and they come out. Mary Beth trips Zachariah and
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  Speaker 2: he falls on his own ceremonial knife and dies. Only
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  Speaker 2: now twist he is possessed by a demon and they've
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: kickstarted a ritual that means that they have to find
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  Speaker 2: five sacrifices to account for the number of people in
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  Speaker 2: the circle when the knife was used before sunrise. They
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  Speaker 2: tie up and interrogate Jeremiah, who reveals that they are
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  Speaker 2: members if a group that the women label an in
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  Speaker 2: cell cult, a male group that is not allowed to
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  Speaker 2: have sex until they are thirty five, sacrifice women to
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  Speaker 2: this demon, and then they sow their seeds and lead
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  Speaker 2: behind a card saying that any children are welcome into
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  Speaker 2: their fold as long as they're male, though the leader
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  Speaker 2: of the group says that their semen is too strong
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  Speaker 2: to produce any female children anyway. The demon confirms the
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  Speaker 2: ritual is real, but the cult leader is fake and
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  Speaker 2: like likely just randomly picked to run up the mill
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  Speaker 2: demon like him like closed his eyes and pointed. The
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  Speaker 2: group gathers to make a plan after they learn that
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  Speaker 2: the sacrifices don't actually have to be women. They argue
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  Speaker 2: about sacrificing the in cell. Nora wants to spare him
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  Speaker 2: due to attraction slash pity. Meanwhile, Mary Beth feels a
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  Speaker 2: pull towards the demon. Despite Avery's opposition, they vote to
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  Speaker 2: go to the bar and find the worst men that
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  Speaker 2: they can find and sacrifice them. Dylan, Nora, and Marybeth
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  Speaker 2: yes they go, and they ask a very confused bartender
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  Speaker 2: to direct them to whoever she thinks is the worst.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very fun montage scene. While Avery and Jill
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  Speaker 2: learn more about Jeremiah and his cult. He seems genuinely
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  Speaker 2: confused about basic questions. They ask him what happens to
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  Speaker 2: the mothers? What if a girl is born? The demon
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  Speaker 2: seems to confirm that he has been misled and lied to,
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  Speaker 2: as does a monitored call with his leader. They feel
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: pity for him and let him go. He proceeds to
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  Speaker 2: become an absolute mess and eats ice cream and is
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  Speaker 2: just sad. The rest of the crew arrives with their
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  Speaker 2: assortment of Jack's male sacrifices, but Jill interrupts them by saying,
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  Speaker 2: we can't kill the Inenzel, and they send the douchebags
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  Speaker 2: to the Acid cabin. I have another meeting where they
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  Speaker 2: all agree Jeremiah is pathetic and they shouldn't kill him.
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  Speaker 2: Through this, they also learned the demon is obsessed with
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  Speaker 2: guess who Nicholas Cage, and he resents that he only
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  Speaker 2: gets to come up to Earth when he is summoned
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  Speaker 2: and can't go to any of Nicholas Cage's restaurants. There's
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  Speaker 2: also a pretty great exchange about abortion here, because basically
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  Speaker 2: Jill is like, I can't die, I have a daughter,
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  Speaker 2: and they all like melt about it, and Jeremiah and
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  Speaker 2: the demon are off to the side, discussing whether or
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  Speaker 2: not life begins at conception and if they need another
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  Speaker 2: sacrifice because of the baby. Because the baby was in
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  Speaker 2: the circle, and Jill shuts it down with a you
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  Speaker 2: don't get to have a save. Avery tries to convince
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  Speaker 2: the group they aren't murderers, they can't do this, but
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  Speaker 2: is outvoted. It's decided that Marybeth will make a poison
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  Speaker 2: in cocktail to kill all their sacrifices, while Dylan and
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  Speaker 2: Nora will go back to the bar and find one
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  Speaker 2: last sacrifice to make up for Jeremiah. Then a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff happens at once. Mary Beth makes the poison
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  Speaker 2: drink but knocks it over while making out with the demon,
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  Speaker 2: who is into her too. Avery goes to warn their
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  Speaker 2: sacrifices while Jeremiah tries to stop her, but they find
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  Speaker 2: them all dead. Dylan and Nora realize that they are
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: still high from the acid and two other members of
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  Speaker 2: the Colts capture them, so they all come to the
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  Speaker 2: sacrificial circle. Dylan and Nora are held at knife point,
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  Speaker 2: with the leader of the Colt now there too. Jeremiah
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  Speaker 2: tries to convince the other cult members that they've been
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  Speaker 2: lied to, but before he can, they are killed by arrows.
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  Speaker 2: One of the men from the bar emerges, claiming he
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  Speaker 2: has been looking out for them and knows about the colt,
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  Speaker 2: but when they won't let him kill Jeremiah, he decides
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  Speaker 2: that they are part of a vague Grand Lizard People
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  Speaker 2: five g conspiracy, but before he can kill them, he
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  Speaker 2: is killed by Billy the bartender. She tells them she
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  Speaker 2: knew there was trouble when they were rounding up the
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  Speaker 2: worst of the worst, gives Dylan the key to her bar,
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  Speaker 2: sprouts angel waves and flies away. Okay, Now they realize
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  Speaker 2: they only need one more sacrifice before sunrise to complete
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  Speaker 2: the ritual and keep themselves from dying because everybody who
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  Speaker 2: has died died within the circle in spending an internity
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  Speaker 2: in hell. A series of distractions follows, including Avery's ex
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  Speaker 2: reappearing with a heartfelt apology and proposal, which Avery accepts.
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  Speaker 2: Mary Beth takes the sacrificial knife into the circle and
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: says she's figured it out and that she is the
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  Speaker 2: wild card. She stabs herself to complete the sacrifice. Count
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  Speaker 2: Avery's ex is understandably confused by what's happening. Mary Beth
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  Speaker 2: comes back to life because she used the sacrificial dagger
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  Speaker 2: and through weird demon stuff, she is able to basically
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  Speaker 2: share bodies with the demon. In zachar Riah, Jeremiah tries
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  Speaker 2: to kiss Nora, but she rebuffs him and he accepts
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  Speaker 2: it though he has no idea what consent is, and
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  Speaker 2: she decides to teach him.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Then we get our happy endings. Avery moves into an
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  Speaker 2: apartment with her boyfriend with marriage on the table. Dylan
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  Speaker 2: takes over Billy's bar. Jill has her baby and names
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  Speaker 2: her Billy. Nora works at Jeremiah to deprogram other members
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  Speaker 2: of his cult. Mary Beth and the Demon go to
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  Speaker 2: Mick Cage's restaurants.
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  Speaker 1: The end, yes.
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  Speaker 2: They do, but they do meet Nick Cage.
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  Speaker 1: We see a quote unquote Nick Cage with no face
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  Speaker 1: just as body and someone doing a bad impression.
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  Speaker 2: Also like, I didn't I he works at those restaurants.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a nice touch. I like nice. And
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  Speaker 2: then if you get to the end, there's a fun
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  Speaker 2: little song that they all sing together about the Song
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  Speaker 2: of the Cricket People, which goes back to a line,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: oh I miss that Oh yeah, it's really cute. It's short,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just cute because that was one of the
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  Speaker 2: most random lines. Nora says it when she's on acid
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, I just go to a cricket. It
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: sang me the song as people. So they have the
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  Speaker 2: song and people the cricket people at the end. So yeah,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: it's just like a fun little happy endings abound and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: then a bunch of like interesting commentary about in cells
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  Speaker 2: and feminism and stuff. So I had a growdult. It
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  Speaker 2: was a fun a fun gym that I yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: And one of the things I liked about it it
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of what we talked about with
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  Speaker 2: Joey about bottoms. I sort of reflect they were all
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: hot messes, like they they were just a mess in this.
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  Speaker 2: They were on drugs, they were drunk, they're making out
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  Speaker 2: with demons, they're affording with themselves, they're running away, they're
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: being avoidant, like all kinds of things like that. But
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: it did remind me of things. I mean, not like that,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: but just times I've gone out with a group of
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: friends and we get kind of messy and talk about
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: our the things that we're dealing with and so I
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: thought that was a that was fun. But yes, I
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: would say friendship is the biggest theme of this. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: after this. After I watched this, I looked up who
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: is in it because I could have sworn I recognized
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: somebody in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I recognized someone too.
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  Speaker 2: One of the demons in book.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of the best best actor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well I wouldn't say that, but.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever, whatever the actors in that in this movie Scream the.
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  Speaker 2: M hmm. Well, so I look them up and they've
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: done a bunch of stuff together. They have done, yes, like.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: A C crew. Okay, that makes sense.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: They they'd like horror too. I think they've done like
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a Scream fan movie. I'm pretty sure. But so anyway,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: they I think they're close outside of this. Yeh, So
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: it was cool. It was cool to see and I
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: did like how like they There are disagreements that they
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: have as it goes on, and they do call out
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: some of each other. They also support each other like
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: no matter what. But I do like her. It's never
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of times that we get that kind
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: of cat fight element and that never happened. No, No,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: it was just sort of a I don't maybe I
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: think you might be running away from this problem, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I will support you if that's I'm here for you.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I'm going to always use you. So seeing them, seeing
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: them go through that and sticking together throughout and just
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: having a lot of history like the Mother Mermaids when
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, yeah, that's very imprepped team, and that's
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: where this and that's where it's just the name of
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: all these things that they do together, and the demon
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: being like, yeah, that makes sense, and yeah, like the
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: whole scream therapy thing of them finding comfort and letting
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it out, uh with each other. If you haven't seen Midsomar,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I know people have different takes on that scene, but
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: it's it's just like women screaming together as they're going
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: through Like one of them is crying, so they all
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: start like crying and screaming together. And a lot of
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: people after they saw that, a lot of women thought
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: it was pretty cathartic. There's a lot to break down
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: in that whole movie, which yes, we'll get to one day,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: but that was sort of the impetus of you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Dylan saying, I got into it after Midsommar, right, that
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: they all go and they do. At the end, they
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: finally get to do the scream therapy, which, by the way,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: was not when they were screaming their problems. This is
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: just like you just scream together, right, Yeah. And I
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: did think, like, you know, when the movie starts and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Avery's going through this breakup and they find her in
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: like dire straits in her apartment, like just a mess
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: under all this laundry. The apartment's a mess. It reminds
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: me of the happy hours we've done in the past,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of like the power of the wine or having those
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: friends where you're like, I just need someone to vent to.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: And I liked how they were kind of yeah, maybe
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you should, maybe you did make a mistake here, but
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to back you run, right, but also a
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: like kind of pushing her to It's you're still clearly
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: upset about this, and you still rely like this guy
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: if you really want to go for it, and you
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: should go for it. So the importance of having those
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: friends in your life that will like hear you and
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: they're going to support you, but they also might give
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you that advice that you need, right mm hmmm. I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: did think it was funny the labels within friend groups
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: of because they when they aren't fighting about who's the
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: wild card, because I do think that happens in friend
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: groups a lot of time, and they're being some some
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: trope flipping here in terms of like it didn't always
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: shake out that way, and it was a lot more
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: like everybody is all over the place in my fain,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: which I appreciated.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: They really were.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I also wanted to bring up the bartender
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Billy because the I love like Dylan comes in and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: she's just like immediately like these these trying to She's
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: just real, real tough and is like in your corner,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: but also it's like, I know you can, you can
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: handle yourself, but I'm here. I'm here to provide the support.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: But they heard she was great. I loved her.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I like that she's just randomly popped down. She's like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I'm an angel. She don't about the Demon Park. She
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: was just making sure the girls were fine. Like that's okay, random.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you. That's why I love like
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: my friends watched it. They had no idea what was coming. Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: it's and I believe the line after that is Mary
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Beth saying, like I literally can't be surprised by it.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, nothing else. She flies away because she flies away.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: That bar was up, where did you come from? And
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: she just flew away. The budget was grateful movie.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, hey, I loved it, and then yeah, we do
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: get this whole conversation about in cells and cults and demons,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: which is which By the way, when I say, when
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I saw The Summery and I was like, yeah, I'm
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: going to watch this, it was essentially like five girls
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: go on a trip to the desert for much needed
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: like therapy or something, and then an insol cult tries
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to kidnap and sacrifice them. And I was like, what.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Which I would point in the movie did you realize?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Like what was that?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: You were like wait, wait, wait, what is this movie? Like,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: at what point did you figure it out? But you
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: were not watching what you thought you were watching.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I think I feel like it happened many times. I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't expecting the demon. I feel like when he was
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: a demon because it told them. There were some moments
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: it could have still been a horror movie and it
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: mostly just been funny, but it was like there were
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: some like oh, creepy, he's back there, you know, And
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: so I thought like it was gonna take a turn.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: But then it took a turn in the way I
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: wasn't expecting.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Now, that is not the turn I expected.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it's a demon now, and now they've got
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: to sacrifice people.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Though wellly at one point when he was like, they
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: put me back by burning my body, I was like,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: why don't they just burn his body, like, just set
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: him on fire. Don't they don't want that to send
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: him back? I don't understand.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if the I don't know if
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: that would stop the ritual.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, the stop the taking of their souls.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean there was also the darker
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: point where the he pointed out that basically the people
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and the cult also got sacrificed at like forty two
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: or something. It was grim. It was presented very humorously.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, the dude deadpan. Oh yeah, definitely they're the worst.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that's definitely yeah. Oh this is great. I'm
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: enjoying this. You should definitely kill him, right. Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: He was a fun He was a fun little chaos
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: in the background A lot of times just watching them,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: like trying to figure this out. Oh. I did find
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: a quote from Yahoo about this, considering the film bills
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: its cult. As in cells, it would be very easy
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: to hammer that home in a menacing way, allowing revenge
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and redemption for the women. Instead, the men are portrayed
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: as naive and controlled by suggestive propaganda. Sure there's no
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: shortage of idiots and souls to be found here, but
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: there's a clear distinction between those who should know better
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: and those who weren't taught better. So I do like
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the end credit scene where she's like teaching.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Them, Yeah, I stop asking.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: He's like, give me your number and she says no.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: He's like, can I have your number? No? But that
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: was one of my favorite things. And you know, it
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: is like we talk about this a lot. It's frustrating
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: when you have to do the extra work of that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: But it's also very clear he was pretty much just
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: raised in this and was very confused, believed it wholeheartedly.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And I really liked that she didn't end up with him.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I really liked that he tried to kiss her and
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: she was like, oh no, I know, and he was like, oh, okay, okay.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: He like, oh really, oh oh I just thought okay.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which he he admitted to her that he saw
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: her and was attracted her, and he was the one
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: that chose them as as the sacrifices because they had
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: been told that that's they would be happy to be sacrifices, right,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And that's why they were screaming, because that they didn't
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: want you to feel jealous that they were going to
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: go to heaven, I guess, but he was trying to
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: save her and Jillian, who Gillian later pointed out was like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: that's still you're killing my friends. Do you think I
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: was happy about that? And yeah, just that whole vibe
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: of like as women when you go into a bar
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: and all the men kind of turn and look at
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you and you're feeling out. I don't know. I don't
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: know about this. I don't know about this, And there
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: is yes motherhood in this single motherhood. In fact, she
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: does have a drink and everything.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I was like, well, not only that
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: was it a drink, but like a shot like hard
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: look like typically I see like a glass of wine
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: or like half a glass of wine is the typical
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: recommendations all like oh.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the new updated come up with
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: new things, So there's no shame in that. But I
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: was like wow, but also like with that they were
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: in solidarity because she was like not having the fact
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: that she was the only sober one's gonna have to
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: take care of all of them. She's like, please tell
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: me do this, and so at these two of them
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: are like, yeah, okay, then we won't do it either,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: and isolate you because at first they were going to.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: But then like having that because I thought maybe this
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: was going to be one of those moments too, where
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: the trope of her being sober having to be like
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: taking care of all of them and like whatever whatnot.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But they, you know, they did that. I was like, oh,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: it's kind of nice. Even though they still weren't. They
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: still had to be taken care of, Like the chaos
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: was still there.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: The chaos was definitely still there. Yeah, so that is
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: for sure. But see again read drugs, which only two
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: of them did, but they caused a lot of koss
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: through it. I did love there's a scene where you know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: they're realizing they're still really high and can't drive, and
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: they get distracted by like, what's that show? And I
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: immediately knew it was Entourage You Too.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: The Douchebags was the show with the douchebags and I'll
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: think it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: In the city.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: But for mar even before she said with a group
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: of guys and dish bags who hate well, like like
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: before she said sex in the city, and then I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. That was so funny. But she does.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: At the end, Gilian does have her baby, and as
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I said, she named her Billy after the angel slash Bartender.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: And then there is that brief conversation on abortion. There's
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: also kind of a funny part where they're Avery and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Jail are trying to prove to the other three that
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: this guy is like really sad and he doesn't know anything,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: and they were like, who's Ruth Bader Ginsburg and he's
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: like a Swish Yeah, a prophet for George Peterson.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, oh, what is it? Yeah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: this cel behavior.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: This is in so yeah, yeah yeah, And then I
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: do love at the end where because there's a funny
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: line where noras like you could have been crushing for
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: decades kids, that he could have been having sex this
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: whole time essentially, and then at the end, Darrenmi I
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: was like, we don't have to wait till we're thirty
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: five to have sex and one of the other cult MEMBERSSS,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: surely you jape so good? Oh, then you know through
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the cult leader, you do see a lot of the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: things we see in in cell conversations. My girls aren't
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: as strong, they wouldn't survive, wouldn't be born, a lot
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: of things like that. Not thinking about the mothers at
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: all having to sacrifice women to have sex. But I
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: did think it was interesting. And again this is just me.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I like to read deep into things, right, I'm not sure,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: but I do think it's interesting, like the conversation that
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: you could have about this about the patriarchy being a
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: cult that we're raised and because if you like, go
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: back to that Yahoo quote, it's like, that's just what
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: he knows, because that's what he was raised in and
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: it's horrible and it involves sacrificing women and a lot
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: of misinformation and a lot of ignorance. And so I
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: just couldn't. I was like, hmm, I mean maybe a
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: bitchup of parallel here. Of course, conspiracy I loved. I
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: was not expecting that when the crossbow guy was like,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: here are one of the lizard people with the five
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: ge Wow? Yes, yes, And then Nicholas Cage of course,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: of course, and having the demon have his his heartfelt
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: moment about Nicholas Cage, his versatility, versatility.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a national treasure. Literally.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I did like that line. I was like, oh, look
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: at you.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: It was good. It was good. What does he call
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: He calls them donut? Does it call them loopholes? He
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: calls them donuts.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Because Nicholas Cage, like Nicholas Page own a donut chicken shop?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Really, I believe.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: So, Okay, I didn't know this because that's the one
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: over my head. I was like, are they trying to
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: make Nicholas Occage into something else? Like, because I didn't
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: realize you actually had one.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: So I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. I will listeners
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: write in if you know, if you've been.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: To it, donut.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I guess you can't really do that one day, Nicholas
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Cage donut one day. Maybe it is real, it's real,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: if it's real, conspiracy. Yeah, this was a fun one.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I really hope if you are interested, I really recommend it.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of said if you got spoiled by it,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: this was your first because it is fun to go into.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: But yes, I hope I hope you all enjoyed this episode.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: It was certainly fun fun for me. Yeah, if you
• 35:14
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• 35:18
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• 35:20
  Speaker 2: do like finding movies that are a bit off the
• 35:23
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• 35:27
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• 35:30
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