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Ep 16: This Medicine Is Powerful, and You’ve Probably Never Been Prescribed It | Cathy Nesbitt · Making Miracles Happen Masterclass

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  SPEAKER_01: Are we laughing enough as a society?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, no, because back to the stressful time that we're in, people will say to me, Kathy, how can I laugh?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's so many things going on in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: And my response is we must laugh because there's so many things going on in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, we're bawling in the corner and we're ineffective.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's make miracles happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are on another episode of Making Miracles Happen masterclass.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I have a special guest with me today.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so for you, what I really love about you know doing podcasts and interviewing people is just finding out what makes you tick.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm really interested in your story and how you got to where you are.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm wondering what was the what was the catalyst for where you are today?
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to tell us where you are, it's just what's the catalyst?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh well, there's so many pieces.
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  SPEAKER_00: What well, one more person said, ooh, worms in the house.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was when I was introduced to laughter.
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  SPEAKER_00: What happened?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the 24th anniversary of my worm composting business.
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  SPEAKER_00: Selling worms by the pound for indoor composting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Worms in the house, who doesn't want that?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's fine, I've met most of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, and I was like, I'm literally on a mission.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm in I'm look I'm located in Canada just north of Toronto, and the landfill filled up in 2002, and we started to export garbage to the US.
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  SPEAKER_00: Almost a thousand trucks a week.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had a solution, indoor composting with worms.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I set forth without any savvy about being a businesswoman.
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  SPEAKER_00: I forgot about that part.
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  SPEAKER_00: Still standing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and yeah, in 2012, one more person said, Ooh, worms in the house.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd heard it hundreds of times.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that that day I heard, I wasn't listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, no, no, no, you need this.
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  SPEAKER_00: But people don't buy what they need, they buy what they want.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they didn't want what I had.
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  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the next very next day I was introduced to laughter yoga.
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  SPEAKER_01: What is laughter yoga?
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  SPEAKER_00: Laughter yoga is um not doing yoga and laughing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's laughing as a cardiovascular exercise.
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  SPEAKER_00: The yoga part of laughter yoga is the practice of the yoga.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or the the yoga, not doing yoga, but it's the practice.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it's the practice of the laughter and the deep diaphragmatic breathing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what gets you into this?
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  SPEAKER_01: So somebody introduced you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did you come up with this yourself?
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  SPEAKER_01: How does this start?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 2012.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was introduced to Laughter Yoga at a business uh networking event.
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  SPEAKER_00: The speaker did a five-minute introduction.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, laughter yoga, what's that?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even do yoga, I'm not a yoga practitioner.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know it's a fine thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I jumped right to the fun yoga.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to be a pretzel, I just want to have fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, so it so it really it's lit.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm I laugh because it's I'm a laughter teacher, but it's serious.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's serious for the time that we're in.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's serious for the time that we're in because we have a global mental health tsunami.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's big.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was behind.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just now more people are affected and it's bigger.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's just coming to light more than anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this this yoga la what is it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Laughter yoga.
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  SPEAKER_01: Laughter yoga.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So how does this work?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, how does it transform you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why would somebody why would somebody decide to do this?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why would I decide to do this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm interested.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So started in 1995 by a medical doctor in India, and his goal is world peace.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there are clubs in over 120 countries.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's it's a global movement.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I believe it was started in 95, so we could be ready for the cuckoo time.
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  SPEAKER_00: 2020.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: We're all shut down.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're like, ah, what are we going to do?
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  SPEAKER_00: Then we all jumped online.
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  SPEAKER_00: Laughter yoga works perfectly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like many healing modalities work beautifully online.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, so there's little games, you have it in gallery view, and you're making eye contact.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's clapping and chanting.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you're clapping palm to palm to palm, you're activating meridians.
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  SPEAKER_00: The rhythm is one, two, one, two, three.
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  SPEAKER_00: The words are very easy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ho ho, ha ha ha.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's like priming.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's not jokes or comedy, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Jokes are cultural.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two people going somewhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not funny for those two, it's about them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so it's it's little games to inspire the laughter, and then there is, you know, breathing exercises as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Little movement.
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  SPEAKER_00: Many laughter people include music, which I do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so dance, maybe singing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really just being childlike.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the benefits are tremendous.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're in charge of our own pharma.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're secreting the love drugs or the stress chemicals.
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  SPEAKER_01: How often do you how often do you do this if um if you're looking to to transform your mental health?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh ideally, daily.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have I have a daily laughter practice, and it's five minutes.
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  SPEAKER_00: My laughter buddy calls me in the morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't say hello, I start laughing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two minutes of deep diaphragmatic breathing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh laughing, one minute of breathing, and then two minutes of laughter, five minutes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it sets us up for the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what I would say at least weekly, you want to go to a club.
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  SPEAKER_00: And why do you need a club?
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  SPEAKER_00: Laughing by yourself, it's not that fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't need it, it's no special equipment is required.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when you laugh together, there's that primal, it's very deep.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's deeper than I can even explain here, or that I'm even know myself, even though I've been laughing since 2012, really laughing since 2020.
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  SPEAKER_00: And now I wouldn't go a day without laughter.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's it's that important to my mental health, to my physical, spiritual.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's changed everything for me, Adrian.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: What does it do to you when it when you actually do this practice?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do we have any science behind this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for the science.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you heard the expression laughter is the best medicine?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's scientifically proven.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hallelujah.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's science around global, again, global research around laughter in corporations for team building, all of those kind of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: For people going through their cancer treatment, dialysis, when they laugh with their team, it changes everything because when we laugh, it it dilates our blood vessels.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're getting any kind of treatment, it's going to be better absorbed into our body and we're going to have fewer side effects.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to be more relaxed, so more at ease when we're going for chemo treatments or whatever treatments we're going through.
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  SPEAKER_00: Laughter is complementary magic medicine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's waiting in all of us to get out.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, and so back, I don't I don't know if I we talked about stress, but we're living in this stress, stressful state today.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we're in stress, blood lymph oxygen leaves our frontal lobe and goes into our muscles so we can escape, even if we're escaping our mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're not breathing properly, we're secreting the cortisol, epinephrine, adrenaline, all of those.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're not, we're in sympathetic versus rest and digest parasympathetic nervous system.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when we're laughing, ha ha ha ha ha ha, we're oxygenating our beautiful brain, our beautiful body, we're secreting all the love drugs: dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're just more relaxed so we can come up with a better solution.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I use the example of if somebody's ever lost their phone, keys, glasses, and they gotta go, you're flopping around, ah, where are my keys?
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  SPEAKER_00: And you're getting more and more stress because you're not finding them, you're not breathing, you're secreting all the stress hormones, your body's tight.
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  SPEAKER_00: What you need to do is stop.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can't stop you from losing something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
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  SPEAKER_00: But here's a tip: you just stop, take a deep breath in, laugh it off.
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  SPEAKER_00: Apologize to all the people you just yelled at.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your phone, your glasses might be right on your head, or your your keys are you, you'll find your keys.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's it's really fascinating.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, it reminds me of, you know, all the times that I've lost something and from a very early age, stressing out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, I can't find it, and then like tearing everything apart.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then at some point, when you can't find it, you have to stop.
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  SPEAKER_01: You have to surrender, you can't do it forever.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I learned very early on that if I just stop and surrender first and I take a deep breath, it doesn't matter if I'm late because I can't find my keys.
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  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter if I don't appear where I'm supposed to appear because I don't find my kids.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like none of this matters right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just gonna relax and I'm just gonna think about where they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Eventually, either somebody will find them or I will find them a lot quicker than when I tore up the house.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's really interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: When we become present, then our brain can say, Oh, they're over there, and we get a little note in our little bean, a little message in our head.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I like the fact that you said then you'll find, you know, your glasses are on top of your head.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because how many times have I been looking for my phone only to find that it was in my hand?
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  SPEAKER_01: Or or the worst, or the worst was actually more recently when I was looking for my phone while I was on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just right, because we're so absent.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that's that's what happens.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're we're not present, and that's what the laughter does to us.
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  SPEAKER_00: It gives us presence because when we're laughing, we're not thinking about yesterday, that stupid thing we said, or that important meeting or whatever coming up.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're right here, right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I I don't know how many times I've been doing this for years.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've try I've led so many laughter sessions, and I I still sometimes when I'm at the front of the room, forget everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we do a breath, let's breathe, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then that gives me a moment to go, oh yeah, okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm completely present, I'm right in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm playing right along with everyone else, and it's it's it's remarkable.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a way to get present.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, one of the things that I also find fascinating about you know this laughter as actual practice.
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  SPEAKER_01: I remember years ago, my mother's always been into like health and healing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So like all the miracle stories are the stories I got, the miracle books are the ones that I read.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So like I have all the stories.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I remember there was a woman who she decided once she was diagnosed with cancer, she was just gonna watch comedy movies.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's all she was gonna do is just watch things that made her laugh.
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  SPEAKER_01: And guess what?
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  SPEAKER_01: Her cancer went into remission, disappeared, gone, poof, finito.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what's more fascinating was to find out that doctors, doctors who have been doing this work for 20 or more years, they always say there's there you'll witness miracles if you've been in the business long enough.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you can tell if somebody will survive cancer or not by their attitude.
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  SPEAKER_01: And their attitude is usually laughter, lightness, you know, they're almost taking it with a grain of salt versus seriousness.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there is so even in the in the medical establishment, there's been this documentation that this works.
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  SPEAKER_01: Especially for especially for like the immune system.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I I love these ideas.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love this idea of um using laughter as medicine in a different way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Laughter as medicine.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's it, that's exactly it.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you said this has been around since the 90s?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 95.
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  SPEAKER_01: And a doctor created it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: And which gives it street cred right there.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's not just somebody started it.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was writing an article about um laugh about laughter for you know, for healing, and he was doing research and found all this, all these studies on the benefits of laughing for health.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he said, if laughter is the best medicine, why don't we laugh?
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  SPEAKER_00: And he started a laughter club, and he could only find five people at the beginning to join him, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because people are like, come on, like that's ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can just and I have people come to club, my club, they've got their arms crossed, and they're like, you know, they were dragged there, and they're like, Oh, I could just laugh and and and feel good.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can, but you got to allow yourself permission.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're thinking this is dumb, you're in your head.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want you to drop down into your body and feel the laughter, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because here's the beautiful part about laughing: the brain doesn't know the difference, or the body doesn't know the difference between real and simulated laughter.
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  SPEAKER_00: The brain, the ego does, but the body is the feeler.
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  SPEAKER_00: The body's like, pew, pew, pew, keep going.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, that's oh, you're right on, youp.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the brain, the brain might be like, it's the brain's role is to keep us safe and conserve energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It knows what to do when you get into that family function.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So we can override our brain just by smiling.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're in a depression, you're feeling sad, you're probably not smiling, you're looking down, you know, you're you're not taking up much space.
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  SPEAKER_00: If we just take up more space and we start smiling, we change how we feel.
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  SPEAKER_00: It changes our state because then we secur start secreting different chemicals.
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  SPEAKER_00: We change our energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everything is energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So all we need to do, and it sounds simple, and it is, it's a progress, uh, is change uh like our posture.
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  SPEAKER_00: Put on a good song, dance around, do some jumping jacks, any of those, some beautiful breath work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is this for everybody?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's for everybody who's open to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I believe it's laughter, is the universal language.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe that everybody can learn to do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everybody can laugh.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: We've all, I believe that every single person has had the experience of laughing their head off, rolling on the floor, maybe they wet themselves a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and if that's happened to me or not.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, like where your stomach is hurting, your cheeks are hurting, those are the laughter muscles.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've even forget why we're laughing when we're laughing so hard.
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  SPEAKER_00: What am I and and then we can't stop?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Then someone starts again, ha ha ha.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you've had any of those experiences, you've already done laughter yoga.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just so yes, we can all learn, but today we're in such a stressful state, and everybody is very serious and afraid, which means we're in our sympathetic nervous system, we're surviving, we're getting by, but that's it.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: We're meant to thrive, we're meant to be in our parasympathetic.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe joy is our birthright.
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  SPEAKER_00: If we allow it, once we allow it in and decide.
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  SPEAKER_00: I we swim around in this stress pool, and then maybe Friday night.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you work Monday to Friday, Friday night might be fun, Saturday is a good day, and then Sunday, oh crap, it's Sunday.
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  SPEAKER_00: Work again tomorrow, and we and so we get sad again, or we go on holiday and we're on our two-week holiday, and wow, this is life.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: What if we could live our life every day instead of hating every day doing the things we're doing?
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: What if we loved everything and then every now and then dipped into stress?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, oh no, back to joy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it would be a whole different experience, and people would be friendlier, they'd be happier, they would be more productive.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe that when we feel good, we do good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm a I'm a full-time healer, and I have a I have an event, and so a lot of people who have never got a healing with me, you know, they have an opportunity to get a healing with me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then if I really want to work with you any further, I will send you an invite to work with me further.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: And one of the things that determines if you get an invite or not, did we laugh during the healing session?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I don't know if I've ever said that out loud before, but there's something that happens when you heal that makes you laugh.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like I have a client that I work with right now, and if I say something that triggers, she'll all of a sudden start laughing because she got the is the aha moment, right?
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'll start laughing.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: So we can't stop laughing.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it makes a trigger lighter.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, I I can I can see that from a different perspective.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: I don't see that from a place of judgment.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't see that from a place of you're trying to harm me by telling me the truth or showing me where my block is, but I can have fun with this.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I see where you're coming from, Adrian.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: And it's so much fun.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: And also when I have a really serious session with someone and we laugh at the end, I know that the healing is complete.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: I know that we're done because you feel better and you're showing me that you feel better.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: And there's some people who they're not ready to feel better, and that's okay.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm working with people who are who are there at that space, and it always is about laughter.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: I love working with people where we laugh.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's the greatest experience because that means I love my work.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: You love working with me.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Let's do it again.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's it.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's how we make somebody feel, how we feel when we're in in community.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's it, yeah.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's awesome, Adrian.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's beautiful.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually happy to get to say that out loud for the first time because I knew inside what it was going on, but I was like, huh, there's there's something to this, isn't there?
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: We want to laugh.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Here, here's something that's really interesting.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: This is why I asked you if if it's for everyone, and I liked your answer to that because you know, some people are just not in the space to do it right now.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: I won't give them a sub.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: What did you say?
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: You have to allow yourself permission, permission to laugh.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just really interesting experience.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: About six years ago, six or seven years ago, um, I had a friend who was doing a summit, and she was like, I have to just I have to read this email to you.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Okay, go ahead.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: And the woman was like, You laugh too much.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: As a host, you laugh too much, and you should stop laughing.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: This is serious.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, and and I had to sit and think about it because I never heard, you know, I've never got an email like that before.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know anybody who's got an email like that before.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I sat and really thought it.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, so this person they don't like to laugh.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Everything has to be serious for them.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: So this is probably not the location for them to be because I didn't want her to read this email and think, wow, I should stop laughing as much.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you just keep laughing, and this just isn't the place for them.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's really, really interesting email.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: What would make a person decide to write somebody and say, don't laugh?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: A trigger of some sort.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: So something so definitely not for everyone.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're not ready yet.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I do, I really but truly believe that it is for everybody.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's why it's built in.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: And to me, it would make sense that it's for everyone.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they just have to allow themselves permission because once you allow it in, uh yeah, you could you could uh like teenagers are the hardest group.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: I I I was doing work with um Girls Inc.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: And they asked me to come and do um a laughter session.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, oh, this will be so fun.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: The girls know me from my worm business.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: This will be so great.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: And and I went in and I was so in my head, oh my gosh, they weren't laughing.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, why aren't they playing?
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: What's wrong with them?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, what's wrong with me?
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: What's happening here?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh, they're teenagers.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: They don't want to look ridiculous, and they're already, they don't, they're unsure and uh, they don't know, and all this angst.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, let me put on music.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: As soon as I put music on, it changed everything.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I think even for me, there's always learning like read the room, you gotta see what's you know, what's what's going on.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: Music.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because I was just sitting here thinking, I remember being a teenager, and like as a teenager, I feel like there's nothing to laugh about.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: Things feel so serious.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're entering a part of life you've never experienced before.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: How do you handle this?
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: But music does make things better.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, they were all dancing.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was it was the icebreaker I needed.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Then I had them, then they were ready to laugh.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Now, was that do you feel like that was intuition that you got to to turn on the music, or was that something you just needed to do?
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was panicking in my head.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was keen, keeping calm on the outside, but I was like, ah.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh, music.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: You said you were panicking.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's how I felt when you said it.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, teenagers, I don't know how she dealt with this one.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I could I could feel the panic.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was like, I'm charging double next time for teens.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: They're a hard group.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: But they need it more than anyone because there's so much freaking angst, right?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: They're so stressed, like, oh, all the things.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: What do I look like?
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, what do I got on my clothes?
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: All the things.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Those hormones, those hormones, they just come out of the blue one day.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: You don't know what hit you, you know?
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: Music.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's that that to me, that's why I asked you if it was intuition.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Cause I was like, that just sounds like brilliant divine guidance.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I it was.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: I believe it was.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it makes sense to me that it's for everybody because as you were you were saying it we got people go through trauma.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: They might have a childhood where their parents tell them stop laughing.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: We don't want to hear the joy come out of our children's mouth.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: But if you think about it, babies start laughing.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: What at three months?
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Spontaneously.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we laugh first.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's we you know, it was it was the um the Greeks that squished out laughter.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Plato and Socrates believed that it was frivolous.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: The more educated you were, the less you laughed because you were frowned, it was frowned upon.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: To be laughing in public, it was just seemed that you weren't taking it serious.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I believe that's still in our DNA today.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: That that some on some level we still have that kind of belief in our in our system.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, like the smarter you are, the less you're supposed to laugh.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: They were smart, but they didn't know everything.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: Just kind of taking that idea that it's in our maybe it's still in our DNA.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's the reason for the email.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: If you were serious about it, if you were smart enough, you wouldn't laugh.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: That would make a lot of sense.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: The email now all of a sudden makes sense.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, thank you.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, very good.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was at a networking event, and the one who was running it said, Oh my gosh, the pizza's gonna be 20 minutes late.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I burst out laughing.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: But she was clearly upset about the whole thing, and she said, Kathy, it's not it's not funny.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, Oh, did we just meet?
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: I said, everything's for funny, first of all.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: And like, look around, it's a women's networking group.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you think anyone gives a crap that the pizza is gonna be 20 minutes late?
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we're all chatting, nobody cares.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, only you care.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: I think women would rather be chatting than eating.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's just that's just me into the food cubs, you know.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: We can chat eat, so yeah, we're good.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing will change once the food is here, except for we'll be chatting and eating.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's so funny.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: I I need to go backwards in time for a moment.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: What is this worm business that you have?
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: Give me some just drop the worms in there.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Just give me the catalyst, and then you drop that on me.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, we're coming back to that.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: What the heck?
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: Give me some details on this.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: What is this?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's indoor composting with worms.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm located in Toronto, and in tw in 2002, our landfill started it closed, and we started to export our garbage.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: And and I had it's indoor composting with worms for the wet waste.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: So for so it's composting, um, your organic matter, food scraps, and paper, yard waste and whatever.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: And then uh, so this is what I'm advocating is in a container in the house, so you can manage.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: So if you live in a condo, a townhouse, a place without space to do outdoor composting, um, you can still do it.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Or at a cottage where there's bears.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: So instead of throwing things away, you're composting it.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: How do you run this as a business?
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: So you're selling people the worms to do the composting at home.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: And workshops.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I do a lot of teaching.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: Can you explain this to me?
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like I'm a two-year-old, please.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: What the the landfill got full?
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, this is the reason I'm asking because I keep thinking about the landfills that we have here in the United States, right?
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking, how does this work exactly?
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: You fill up the landfill, you put dirt on it, and then you move on.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, how long is this viable for before we can't do that?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: So, what what how?
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: What you experienced something I've been curious about.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: So you gotta tell me what happened.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, with with with so our landfill did fill up, you know.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're adding trash every day, it it fills eventually, but the government is short-sighted, so they don't they didn't they're like, Oh, we have room for today's garbage, we don't have to think about it today.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: We're done.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, when it filled up, it's like, oh my gosh, now what do we do?
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's no room for more any more garbage.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: We better come up with a solution, and nobody wants it in their backyard.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: So uh somehow Michigan is the trash capital.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: They have they they accept they have the lowest tipping fees of surrounding states, and uh they anyways, that maybe that's getting into too much.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's interesting.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: What is a tipping fee?
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so that's the the fee to empty your garbage trucks at the at the landfill.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, literally tipping them.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: Probably could have figured that out.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe I just didn't try, but yeah, that's how you empty trash, right?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: Tip the trash.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: So so what happens when Michigan feels?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's a good question.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: They but they get New York's trash.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: Michigan, Michigan is the trash capital.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: And what happened there?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: A little bit of background on how that happened.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: They were the automotive cap capital, and then Ford, GM, and Chrysler all moved out of town, and everyone started making cars.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: We even make cars in Canada, and they needed a new industry.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: I I mean, I I I can only assume that they were like, what can we do?
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: We need a new industry.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone makes trash, let's be the trash capital.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it went like that exactly, but um I mean it's it's an endless supply.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: I guess yeah, it's a it's a good business choice because trash for cash, which shame on Canadians for shipping our garbage out of the comp country.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: Double shame on Americans and not the people, the government.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like who decided that was a great idea?
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's our tax dollars.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, folks, sorry, Canadians, we can't uh do that, build that new school because there goes our money to the states.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: We're just shipping our garbage away.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like it's it's really ridiculous, which is why I started my worm business, at least to manage some of the wet waste.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: And what I didn't realize when I started that business, it was uh it was for waste management.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I was doing it.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: I know that they turn it into black gold, like the compost is really valuable.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't realize how valuable until I got into it, and people wanted what I was making.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't want to do the worms in the house, they don't want to do all that messy part, but they wanted the black gold for their gardens.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: In North America, we have destroyed the soil.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: Corn, wheat, and soy, that's not how nature intended.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: Acres and acres of the same crop, that means you have to apply a lot of chemicals.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: You must, otherwise, the bugs will take over, and then the bugs become more resilient, so they need stronger chemicals, and that's where we are today.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: If we added, not that we could convert back to organic overnight because we didn't get here overnight.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, the more that we can go back to how nature intended by adding these nutrients back in, the worms are the original alchemists.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: They convert our garbage, what we call garbage, only it's garbage only because that's what it's called, but it's food for something else.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: They turn garbage into gold.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: How beautiful! So we can have more nutrient-rich, delicious, nutritious food.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's big.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if you can answer this or not, but I see I find this conversation very fascinating.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: So a landfill fills, you put dirt on it.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: So that means some of the things are are being composted.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: So how does it become so um poisonous?
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: How does a landfill become so poisonous?
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because of all the toxic stuff we've added in.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then they squish it down, they run tractors over it at the end of every day, and they, as you said, they put dirt on top.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: They're compacting it, so they're packing it down.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: It actually doesn't break down.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: People think, oh, I can throw my apple core in the landfill.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: You can, it will just be still there in 50 years.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because things get preserved in the landfill, they don't they don't break down like nature intended.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: And they've they've done um research where they've taken a core of a landfill and they've been able to read newspapers 50 years old.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I said 50 years.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: What right?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: It wouldn't be yes, and newspaper newsprint breaks down very quickly.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it does.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I'm like, what do you mean?
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: So landfill is preserving the garbage.
• 31:36
  unknown: I know.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's a new one on me.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's a new one on me.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: That that's my mind's gonna mull that one over for a minute.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: So we're preserving it.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: So that doesn't even mean we can go back and start filling it again because it's not actually composting.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, but what they're doing now is mining landfills.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: What do you mean?
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, now they're going to see what kind of treasure they can find in there.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: All the stuff that people throw away, now they're mining because we're running out of resources.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: So now they're like, oh, there's probably we've probably got all that stuff in the landfill.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: So they're they're mining landfills now for resources.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: This is an audio only podcast, so people cannot see the look on my face, but my mouth was stuck open for a moment.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because when you say it, it reminds me of when people went mining for gold.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: You go into a mine, you know, you go into the water and you you do your thing, you mine for metals and everything, and I'm sitting here going, so we created our own minds to go mine later on.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: Our own treasured maps.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: I it is it's like when you think about how ridiculous we are as people, and people will say to me, Oh, like one trash bag doesn't make a difference, or you know, one grocery bag at the grocery store doesn't make a difference.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: It does when there's a billion of us.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: And if everyone got it right, everyone got a garbage bag, that would be a billion right there.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then we have you know how many garbage, a billion uh for each person.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: We have garbage bags.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I laugh.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I laugh now more than worms, just because it's it's it was really heavy, and and I feel worm-like Adrian, in that I'm super sensitive and not that I eat and poop like a worm, but but I'm very sensitive and I feel like I'm on purpose and I'm I'm I you know I'm doing my thing and and being judged just like the worms are.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like people are like, oh, worms, you know, they had a bad experience with worms as a kid, can of worms is a bad expression, computer worm, like worm is a bad word.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's got it's got negative juju on it.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: In camera?
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: I I think I think globally, I think worm, like tapeworm and computer worm, that it's the worm the word worm.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: So when people and if they were traumatized as a child by worms, like by you know, a fishing incident or somebody chased you after a rainy day or whatever, um, you're not looking to that as a solution.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: You're not like I'm gonna have worms under my kitchen table.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody chased you after a rainy day.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's funny.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: Just find a worm that's lost its way and start chasing people with it.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I that was my childhood.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't afraid of worms, but don't chase me with one because that's nasty.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know where it's gonna land.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, interesting.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I've I never heard anybody say they were afraid of worms though, or had a bad experience with worms.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's that's a whole nother reality to even think about people thinking that.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if it was because my dad used to go buy nightcrawlers so we can go fishing or you know, whatever the thing was.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: But when I was a kid, I used to dig up the dirt and be like, oh my god, there's a worm.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: Look at the worm, and then put the worm back and call it a day.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I I literally don't think I met one person who would say anything negative about a worm other than like a tapeworm.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: You'll get emails.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: People will be writing you.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's me.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: I had the bad experience with the worm.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: I might start getting love letters to worms.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, I love worms.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is very fascinating.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: I love this.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for sharing your story with me.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thanks for the opportunity.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: I I because I think both of my offerings, the worms and the laughter, are super important.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I have heaven and earth covered.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: The the ground, like I'm literally grounded dealing with the worms, and then the laughter is the vibration of the gods.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like this high vibration um energy.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I think when people so a lot of people came to Laughter Yoga from depression, kind of as the last stitch thing.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: They've tried the antidepressant meds, they did therapy, they've done different things, and still they're depressed, and they may have been introduced to laughter yoga.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I I was surprised when I came um to laughter because I didn't come that route.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: How many pe how many laughter leaders and teachers came from depression?
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: And the laughter helped them maybe get off their their medication.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, some depressions are very severe.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, lots of unwinding to do.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and the laughter helps them cope.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, same with addictions, because when we're we're taking any drugs or drinking, eating disorders, sex, we're trying to get those hits, those love drug hits.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine if we can laugh and get that same energy without side effects, without waking up hung over or um feeling, you know, shame or guilt from our addiction.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's it's really incredible.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh and it's changed my life.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was about to doff my important mission that day.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: The one the person said, one more person said, Who worms in the house?
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: And being introduced to laughter yoga the next day just changed everything.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then it was just a hobby with my mother-in-law, and then I was getting paid gigs, and then 2020.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay, I took a deep dive into the expression laughter is the best medicine.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, is it true?
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: If it is, why aren't we laughing?
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I need to bring this bigger, this is what I need to do.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I believe now this is why I was put here.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm natural, I'm a great laugher.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: People are like, Oh, you have a great laugh, or I'm walking, it's an energy.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: So when you walk in somewhere, when someone has big, beautiful energy, you know, you see them before they're there.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're like, oh, something's happened.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: It just got brighter in here.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's what happens when I walk in.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: When I'm in a good way, and people will say to me at the grocery store, oh my goodness, oh, you're in a good mood.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll say, I'm a laughter teacher and hand them my card, but because I'm a hustler too, you know, and it's kind of like I just feel like that's my rule.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: I go out in in the world and I interact with people just by changing that moment for them.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it, and I think that's what it is, just the little moments that we can spark in someone else, and then they're like, oh, and then it's a little brighter, right?
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like one candle takes away the dark, one giggle takes away the sadness, at least for that moment.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: So, what do you help people do?
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, can people around the world meet with you, like on Zoom, or is this in person?
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: Because you talk about clubs.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: Can you give me a little bit of detail around that?
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do both.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: I I my my wheelhouse right now is uh working with seniors and special needs.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: I do have an online club on Tuesday mornings, and it's free.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: I do get people from around the world coming.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, six years of the global giggle gang.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine?
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: Six years.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, oh, I love Tuesdays so much.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: Just, I mean, it's free.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like it's it's not about money, it's about helping people feel good.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: What do I do?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: I help people get out of stress and into joy without talking about it.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: I know talk therapy is a modality, it's fine.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: You may need that, but laughter kind of bypasses having to reintroduce the trauma into your body.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: You can just laugh and at least for that moment feel good and connected.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so so people come to my club.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I go into day programs for um seniors with cognitive decline.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it's so beautiful.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's so beautiful.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: One man in 2016, I went to this day program, and this young, he was young, early onset something.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh, he's so young.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, here I am at the same place.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: Now I'm going weekly to the same facility, and he's still there 10 years later because he was young then.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's still pretty young.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and now he's kind of catatonic, he just sits, he doesn't respond.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: But now I've been going since March, and now when I go in, I'm standing because I sit, I greet everybody every single person.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: I touch them, and he now laughs with me.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't touch him because he doesn't like that, so I don't touch him, but I laugh, we're laughing together, and he laughs.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: Last week, oh my gosh, I do include music, and he stood up and danced.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: He danced.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the staff was just like, oh, because it was an appropriate thing at that moment.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't him just getting up to go roaming.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: He stood up and danced with me, and I was like, that's the magic of it.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: It brings us to it makes us present.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_00: So we have moments of lucidity, like, ah, it's so beautiful.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: Are we laughing enough as a society?
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, because not necessarily back to the Greeks, but back to the stressful time that we're in.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: People will say to me, Kathy, how can I laugh?
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: There's so many things going on in the world.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_00: And my response is we must laugh because there's so many things going on in the world.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, we're bawling in the corner and we're ineffective.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: When we're stressed, blood lymph oxygen leaves our frontal lobe.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: We're not breathing, our brains deplete of oxygen.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's uh it's the answering machine.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: We must laugh because laughing, we're like, ha ha ha, we're exhaling.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: We have to take a beautiful, nice long, deep breath in if we want to continue laughing.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: So that automatically oxygenates our being.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: We're getting the synapses.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: We can come up with a solution.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: So it's I that you know, there's so many reasons to laugh.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: There's so many reasons that we must laugh, especially in when times are try are tough.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, what's a miracle to you?
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: A miracle to me, um an unexpected, wonderful experience, like an event, like a giggle that just bubbles up for no reason.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like it just it's like, oh, where did that come from?
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: That felt fun.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like a something for no reason.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: You just you just smile for no reason, or you yeah, that that's a miracle to me.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: And what miracle story would you like to share with the audience?
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, one where a woman came to my laughter club.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: She'd never been, I didn't know this woman, and she said she had knee surgery eight weeks prior.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: And in the eight weeks, she hadn't slept more than two hours a night.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: She that was coming in.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: She had not attended my club, but at the end of my club, I say to all the new people, notice how you feel for the rest of the day, notice how you sleep tonight.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: I hope you sleep well, I hope you sleep well every night, because that's how we heal.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: Two days later, she wrote me an email and said, Remember, I said I had knee surgery and hadn't slept for more than two hours a night since in eight weeks.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_00: I s after laughter, I slept all night.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Wow! And she continued, when I arrived home, my 19-year-old son was having an existential crisis, and she said it was like somebody had taken over my body.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: She was able to hold space, stand in her ground.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: She was a wash of happy hormones.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: She could hold space for her beautiful son and let him whatever happens.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know her, so I don't know what happens.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: I can just imagine shouting or crying and stress.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I can imagine for a mom and son.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_00: And that didn't happen.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, that's one of my favorite stories.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: That was a miracle.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is a miracle.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: It actually reminds me of um I I've shared this with like clients before, and I think you know, small groups of people, I don't share this as a a thing, but you you're giving me a whole new perspective on life through the the eyes of laughter.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: So I was on a spiritual journey, and I really wanted to get over, you know, I wanted to find the answers, the answers to life and my blocks and why life is unfolding the way it is.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm I'm in the journey.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm laying there, and all of a sudden I'm just like, is there anybody out there that's listening to me?
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: Are my guides there?
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a divine energy there?
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: And everything was just silent.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: All I could hear was silence.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_01: And then I just start laughing.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't stop laughing.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think I laughed for a good five minutes.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: And somebody asked me, what made me start laughing?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, Because I realized that life is just one cruel joke.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I couldn't stop laughing about it.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's the best thing ever.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was the most freeing I had ever felt in my life that I keep taking things too seriously, and it's time to end that.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's today, it's over, it's done.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: Whether it's cruel or not, doesn't matter.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a joke.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_01: Just laugh about it.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's not the funniest joke in the world, it's not the worst joke in the world, but damn it, it's just a joke.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: My do you know my life completely changed after that moment?
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: My life has not been the same.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: And we're talking years and years and years and years and years ago, and I always think back on that as that being like the most enlightened experience I've had in my life.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, I love that.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: Now I can see that as a miracle.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: I got good.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thank you for that.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: What are your last words that you would like to say to the audience?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: I would just love to um invite people to laugh more, smile more.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_00: So here's here's five things you can do.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: Very simple.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: You can smile more, laugh, sing, dance, and the fifth thing is gratitude.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: Just be grateful.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it'll change your life.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: It really will change your life, even if it's just incrementally imagined one one step at a time.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's worth it.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: You're worth it, and we need you because we're this giant, like we're all part of this giant mosaic, and we need to put our piece in so the jigsaw is complete.