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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 4-7-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's the Sean O'Connell Show, brought to you by Big
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  Speaker 3: for a play still inexplicably to find jazz basketball on
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  Speaker 3: your television, well Big Willies College Hoops. If you were smart,
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  Speaker 3: you went and watched the national championship game with Big
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  Speaker 3: Tell Themossie sent you at seventeen seventeen to South Maine.
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  Speaker 3: You got a national champion in men's hoops, the Michigan Wolverines,
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  Speaker 3: the first national championship since nineteen eighty nine, the first
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  Speaker 3: team to beat Yukon in the sweet sixteen or later.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a weird stat when U cut makes it to
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  Speaker 3: the sweet sixteen, they win. Michigan beat Yukon in uh
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  Speaker 3: what was, in my opinion, a really interesting, thrilling game.
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  Speaker 3: I love the fact that we took two teams that
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  Speaker 3: have had some pretty dominant runs. Michigan especially through this
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  Speaker 3: this March Madness experience has been just mollywopping everybody, including Arizona,
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  Speaker 3: much to the chagrin of the Big twelve basketball fan.
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  Speaker 3: And this one was a battle all the way through.
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  Speaker 3: There was an absolute murderous scenario where Yukon really had
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  Speaker 3: a shot. In my opinion, this was where is about
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  Speaker 3: two minutes left, Okay, they get a steal, ball's about
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  Speaker 3: to bounce out of bounds, the save brings it back in.
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  Speaker 3: They're under their own basket, I should say, under the
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  Speaker 3: Yukon basket. Whose basket is it the one that you're defending.
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  Speaker 3: Is that your basket or someone else.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like football. It's the opposite your basket is
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  Speaker 4: the one you're trying to score.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so they're under their own basket.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like I could see the hamster go around you.
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  Speaker 3: Your hold on football is the one you're defending it. Like,
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  Speaker 3: wait a second, that's ours. The one behind us is ours.
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  Speaker 3: The one in front of us is ers basketball.
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  Speaker 4: Dang it, now that I say it out loud, Oh see,
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  Speaker 4: are you like this where you're like, I this is
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  Speaker 4: I know that this is right, But now they say
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  Speaker 4: it out loud, and I'm on the record now I'm
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  Speaker 4: now I'm certain to doubt it.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm yes, James, I know you just did that,
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  Speaker 3: just barely happened.
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  Speaker 4: Like, yes, That's how I've always that, That's how I've
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  Speaker 4: always understood it.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Like we said before, the text line is always great
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  Speaker 4: for anyone who wants to correct us eight seven seven
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  Speaker 4: three five three zero seven hundred. If you if if
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  Speaker 4: chat GBT told you something else, go ahead and chine it.
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  Speaker 3: Don't believe. Don't believe artificial intelligence? You know what? I
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  Speaker 3: think the plan is for AI eventually, because we're all
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  Speaker 3: outsourcing our brain to the hive mind of AI. Pretty soon,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna deliberately feed us incorrect facts. It's gonna give
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  Speaker 3: us fake news on purpose. So you're gonna start asking
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  Speaker 3: it these questions, Hey, the basket you're scoring on or
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  Speaker 3: the basket you're defending? Which one is yours? In basketball?
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  Speaker 3: And that's a perfect foray, that's a perfect entry point
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  Speaker 3: for AI to start lying to you, because it's innocuous,
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  Speaker 3: it's a it's a fact that you're just like, that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't really mean anything. If I getateway misinformation, gateway misinformation,
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  Speaker 3: and that's where it's just like term and then it's
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  Speaker 3: like we have gotten the humans to address us. They're
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  Speaker 3: asking us things first.
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  Speaker 4: Boards Now, when you when you start seeing academic, serious
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  Speaker 4: academic articles titled Gateway misinformation, you're welcome. You're welcome, academics.
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  Speaker 4: It's us that we just gave you that term. We
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  Speaker 4: gave you that.
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  Speaker 3: In any case, Michigan was in the lead. Obviously they're
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  Speaker 3: up at this point, they're up seven, right, I talk, yes, So.
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  Speaker 4: They it was a it was a six point Excuse me,
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  Speaker 4: it was a four point game.
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  Speaker 3: It was a four it was a six point game.
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  Speaker 3: It was a six point game at this point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's right, because the Yukon steals, saves it back in
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  Speaker 3: right under the basket. It's there, and immediately without a dribble,
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  Speaker 3: goes up for the layup, misses the layup, and that
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  Speaker 3: would have made it a four point game. The momentum
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  Speaker 3: had already begun to shift because Yukon was on a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a rally, and instead Michigan gets the
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  Speaker 3: rebound on the mislayup after the steal and save down
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  Speaker 3: at the other end, a little ball movement, pass pass,
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  Speaker 3: three point shot, and now you've got a seven point swing.
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  Speaker 3: We talk about this all the time. How you know
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  Speaker 3: that one error in football you get a fourteen point
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  Speaker 3: swing because you fumble and when you're on the way
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  Speaker 3: in they take it all the way back. Whatever, This
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  Speaker 3: was a seven point swing with less than two minutes
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  Speaker 3: to play in the National Championship game, and U con that.
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  Speaker 3: For me, that was the moment. They still battled it
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  Speaker 3: out down the stretch, hit another three pointer to get
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  Speaker 3: it within four again, but that right there, with that
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  Speaker 3: time on the clock, with the momentum shifting their way,
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  Speaker 3: that was the moment that Michigan won the basketball game.
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  Speaker 4: Five point swing. Ohcs, it was if they convert on
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  Speaker 4: that layup or and even hindsight's twenty twenty. But right
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  Speaker 4: after that happens, I go, man, I think they might
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  Speaker 4: have been better served if instead of putting up a
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  Speaker 4: quick lay up there because you felt like you had to,
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  Speaker 4: maybe solo ball brings it back out and they run
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  Speaker 4: a set. I don't know, maybe, but but that's hindsight.
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  Speaker 4: It's uh ends up being a five point swing. They
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  Speaker 4: either they go from put good chance to be down
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  Speaker 4: four to down nine.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, like you said, Caravan gets that three seven,
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  Speaker 3: it was a five point swing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he Caravan hits a three right after to
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  Speaker 4: kind of negate everything but that. But at that point,
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  Speaker 4: thirty seconds thirty five seconds have gone off the clock,
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  Speaker 4: and the clock is very much your enemy, under under
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  Speaker 4: two minutes when you're down by multiple possessions there. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that was a huge momentum swing in the game.
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  Speaker 3: And then when you were when you're down four with
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  Speaker 3: about a shot clock's worth the time, Caravan got a
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  Speaker 3: three point attempt, a deep, deep three point attempt that
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  Speaker 3: to me was bothersome. That's the best shot you can get.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I had no problem with it. I know
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  Speaker 3: that you're all right, with Caravan taking those shots. But
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  Speaker 3: I was like, man, you have time to try to
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  Speaker 3: make something happen. It felt like to me, it felt
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  Speaker 3: like the whatever they had drawn up, whatever they had
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  Speaker 3: talked about, sort of broke down on the second pass
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  Speaker 3: of the possession and Caravan gets the long three, comes
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  Speaker 3: up short. Hurley appeals on the rebound. Thought that maybe
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  Speaker 3: there was a flagrant to be had with a with
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  Speaker 3: an elbow. There was no elbow thrown, and you lose
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  Speaker 3: your time out because of that. The timeout ultimately wasn't
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  Speaker 3: gonna mean a ton, and Michigan hits a couple of
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  Speaker 3: free throws. The Wolverines are your national champions in NCAA basketball.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I had no problem with the Caravan three because mainly,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a when you're down by four with under thirty
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  Speaker 4: seconds left, I'm a shoot the three.
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  Speaker 3: Guy. Don't get the I'm total being the three pointer.
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  Speaker 3: But he was eight feet behind the arc.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he he clearly, and and he if I'm not
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  Speaker 4: mistaken the way he came off the screen, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I can't remember if he's a left to you or alrighty.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a righty. Where he came off the screen.
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  Speaker 4: He had to kind of he had to kind of
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  Speaker 4: flip in order to get his feet set in his
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  Speaker 4: his arm set. I'm going way I'm going way deep
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  Speaker 4: here in the shooting into shooting what you think of
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  Speaker 4: as a shooter. Well, and that I think that also
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  Speaker 4: combined with how deep he was and that angle that
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  Speaker 4: he had to take, the side he came from, made
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  Speaker 4: it so that he was he was short, barely touched
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  Speaker 4: the front of the him.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, it was a tough shot. To me. It
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  Speaker 3: felt like the kind of shot that you're forced to
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  Speaker 3: take if there's three seconds left on the clock, not
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  Speaker 3: if there's fifteen seconds left on the clock. And I
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  Speaker 3: get it, you need another possession, but you're just gonna
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  Speaker 3: foul on the inbound if you hit that three. Anyway
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  Speaker 3: to try to get that try to start that play
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  Speaker 3: gone it. It's revisionist history to have anything else happen
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  Speaker 3: besides Michigan winning this national championship. They aren't. They felt
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  Speaker 3: like they were a team of destiny. They felt like
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  Speaker 3: they I mean, when they beat Gonzaga, apparently this you
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  Speaker 3: love the apocrypha stories that you get after a team
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  Speaker 3: makes good on their promise, But apparently when they but
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  Speaker 3: right before they hung forty or they beat Gonzaga by forty,
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  Speaker 3: Michigan had a little huddle and we're like, hey, we're
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  Speaker 3: the best team ever assembled. Let's go play like it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to be their legacy. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that's how we're going to talk about them
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  Speaker 3: as a national champion. But if you listen to the
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  Speaker 3: show yesterday, you heard me wondering and discussing, Hey, man,
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  Speaker 3: how will this team be remembered if they can win
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  Speaker 3: a national championship compared to the Fab five team, compared
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  Speaker 3: to that squad. That was such a cultural and iconic
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  Speaker 3: moment for Michigan. And when you play Michigan highlights, you're
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  Speaker 3: still watching. That is jaxel Landborg gonna now be the
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  Speaker 3: face of Michigan basketball in a way that Chris Weber
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  Speaker 3: and Jalen Rose have for three decades. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but that was an impressive season, an impressive win for
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  Speaker 3: this Michigan squad. And to bring it back to some
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  Speaker 3: local interest, if we have to do that, I'm now
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  Speaker 3: fully in the Stockholm syndrome obsessive X type phase of
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  Speaker 3: the separation from Kyle Whittingham. Where everything that happens at Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't able to enjoy the game. I was able
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  Speaker 3: to say, oh, wow, good job Michigan. You got the
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  Speaker 3: basketball national championship not so long after you got a
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  Speaker 3: football national championship. That's a big deal. You're a mega
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  Speaker 3: powerhouse athletic program. So I was able to enjoy it.
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  Speaker 3: But my next thought was just like, huh, what does
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  Speaker 3: this mean for the football team? What does this mean
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  Speaker 3: for Kyle Whittingham and for Lewis Powell and for Jason
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  Speaker 3: Beck and all these guys. And I know that's very
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  Speaker 3: like obsessive X type thinking, but that's where I'm at. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna admit it to you. It is a
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  Speaker 3: pressure point for the football team. Before, all you needed
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  Speaker 3: to be was something that doesn't have scandal for this
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  Speaker 3: first year. That's all you needed to be at Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: You just needed to be a team that separated itself
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  Speaker 3: from the Sharon More mess, from the embarrassment, the black
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  Speaker 3: eye on the program. And that was guaranteed when you
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  Speaker 3: hired somebody like Kyle Whittingham to run the program. Now
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  Speaker 3: the fan base is whipped into a frenzy again where
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  Speaker 3: they're just like, hey, we're gonna be really good too.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna be really good. But I thought we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: take us a national championship football. Were gonna be basketball
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  Speaker 3: at football in time here, right, So it's a little
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  Speaker 3: pressure point. I don't think it matters a ton at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the day, but the standard has been
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  Speaker 3: elevated with the money, with the boosters, with the national
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  Speaker 3: television attention, all that stuff. Michigan, there was a time
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  Speaker 3: like pre harball years, when Michigan was just a historic
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  Speaker 3: blue blood and they weren't anything else besides that. They
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  Speaker 3: were just a once proud program that always lost Ohio State.
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  Speaker 3: And now Michigan is very near the gold standard of
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  Speaker 3: athletic excellence across all sports. Because when you're slugging it
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  Speaker 3: out at the top of the revenue producing sports and
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  Speaker 3: you're winning a national championship in men's hoops, and you're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be on that level in football year after
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  Speaker 3: year after year, which is now the expectation again is
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  Speaker 3: now where they're back to again. I mean, that's why
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  Speaker 3: that job was so appealing. That's why the players that
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  Speaker 3: had an opportunity to go play there, did.
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  Speaker 4: I think about this OC as far as men's basketball
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  Speaker 4: and football, renewed dominance, renewed year and year and year
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  Speaker 4: out contention, title contention since twenty thirteen when John Bline
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  Speaker 4: took over the basketball program and that year Trey Burke
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  Speaker 4: shout out Trey Burke, former jazz Man led and Tim
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  Speaker 4: Hardaway Junior led that team to the national championship game
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  Speaker 4: in basketball they have This was either their third or
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  Speaker 4: fourth Final four, their third or fourth.
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  Speaker 3: At their third national championship game.
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  Speaker 4: First national championship right in basketball, and then took him.
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  Speaker 3: A while under Jim Harbaugh.
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  Speaker 4: They had to cheat and all that, but they did
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  Speaker 4: finally win with was it three or four straight Big
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  Speaker 4: Ten championships, a national championship, go to the playoff three
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  Speaker 4: or four straight years. They were in contention for the
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  Speaker 4: Big Ten every one of those years under Harbaugh. I
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  Speaker 4: mean it's been about twelve thirteen years of Michigan is
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  Speaker 4: not just a team a program that used to factor
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  Speaker 4: in the national championships and in football certainly and in
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  Speaker 4: basketball quite a bit since eighty nine. But now they
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  Speaker 4: actually are factoring of these things. They're winning these things.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to final fours, they're going to college football playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's been a sharp turn back to relevance for
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  Speaker 4: University of Michigan athletics, unfortunately for people like myself.
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  Speaker 3: So your national champions have been crowned. In men's hoops,
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Chase is gonna join us. We'll talk to him
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  Speaker 3: about kind of the way this thing unfolded. We'll also
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  Speaker 3: talk some NBA basketball. Sean Mooney is also going to
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  Speaker 3: join us at noon. Jeff Schwartz is going to join
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  Speaker 3: us at about one o'clock. We've got a daily Dumb
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  Speaker 3: coming for you. It's a fun show lined up. And
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  Speaker 3: today is April seventh, in the Year of Our Lord,
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. Okay, today the basketball transfer portal opens.
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  Speaker 3: You've already heard intentions and if if you go to
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  Speaker 3: like a transfer portal tracker, they are they're effectively, like
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at twenty four to seven sports transfer portal tracker,
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  Speaker 3: they're effectively taking a player's word for their intent to
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  Speaker 3: enter the transfer portal, whether paperwork has been filed yet
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  Speaker 3: or not. You got Kentucky players in there, Kansas State
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  Speaker 3: players in there, You've got BYU players in there, You've
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  Speaker 3: got Utah players in there and the question for running
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  Speaker 3: utes basketball, the question as we look at the Michigan
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  Speaker 3: excellence on multiple fronts, the question I have for the
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  Speaker 3: Utah Athletic Department, and probably more pointedly, for the supporters
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  Speaker 3: of the Utah Athletic Department, for the boosters, for the
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  Speaker 3: NIL contributors, for the no longer I don't think we
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  Speaker 3: really get to talk about collectives that much anymore for
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  Speaker 3: the revenue share helpers in college hoops. One thing that
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  Speaker 3: this last season made abundantly clear is that Alex Jensen
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  Speaker 3: and his coaching staff, which is now fully assembled and
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  Speaker 3: fully entrenched, that was not the case the last time
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  Speaker 3: the transfer portal opened. But these guys need to dare
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  Speaker 3: I quote dare I say, they need to go big
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  Speaker 3: game hunting. They need to try to improve the talent,
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  Speaker 3: the raw talent on this roster significantly. You can believe
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  Speaker 3: in a coaching staff as much as you want, You
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  Speaker 3: can trust a scheme or a system as much as
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  Speaker 3: you want, but until there is talent at least remotely
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  Speaker 3: on par with or somewhere approaching what you're getting with
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  Speaker 3: the Kansases, the Byus, the Houstons, the Texas texts of
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  Speaker 3: the world you can't hope for much better than what
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  Speaker 3: you're getting with Utah men's basketball. The transfer portal is
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  Speaker 3: open today, and you're gonna have to build at least partially,
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  Speaker 3: but probably primarily through that transfer portal. At the same
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  Speaker 3: time that you're losing Keanu Dawes and tb and Elijah
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  Speaker 3: Moore and these guys. You have to find a way
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  Speaker 3: to bring something back in. And the only way that
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna do that, the only realistic hope that you
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  Speaker 3: have is money. We don't have to like it, we
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  Speaker 3: don't have to celebrate it. We do have to accept it.
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  Speaker 3: You have to spend to get bodies in the building.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a literal conversation. By the way, if you
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  Speaker 3: even want somebody to show up and seriously consider transferring
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  Speaker 3: to the University of Utah, you got to show them money.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to tell that. We talked with EVERC. Gray
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  Speaker 3: yesterday and he's he's got irons in the fire on
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  Speaker 3: the NBA front, on the college front, at the high
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  Speaker 3: school front. He's a Corner Canyon High School.
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  Speaker 4: He knows these football and basketball athletes that are considering
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  Speaker 4: in state schools.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and what did he say? He said I had
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  Speaker 3: five phone calls, and the first question is what's the money?
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  Speaker 3: What is the money like? What is the money like?
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  Speaker 3: What kind of money? And I don't even begrudge the
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  Speaker 3: young student athlete this now. I don't even begrudge their
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  Speaker 3: ridiculous uncle who's trying to get a little piece of
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  Speaker 3: the pie, because money is, unfortunately, what makes our world
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  Speaker 3: go round, and it takes more than just money. You
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  Speaker 3: gotta have character, you gotta have work ethic. You got it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's easy to have character and work ethic without money.
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  Speaker 3: You can have those things and still not get money. Right,
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  Speaker 3: if you're an athlete, you want money. That's just the
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  Speaker 3: way it is right now. And I'm looking at a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of guys, even from the the Big twelve conference,
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  Speaker 3: that have bodies that have measurables? Are they going to
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  Speaker 3: be something in another uniform that they weren't at their
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  Speaker 3: present school, at their current school, at the University of Utah?
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  Speaker 3: Are you gonna be better somewhere else? The only way
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  Speaker 3: you get to answer this question, unfortunately, is with Monney.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: And if we're talking about Utah specifically, because of course
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: we are here on ESPN seven hundred, what do you
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: do with that money. That money is finite, right, We've
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: talked about with the football program. There's about twenty three,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: maybe in a really good scenario, twenty five million dollars
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: available in the NIL and revenue sharing front for the
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: football program. Okay, that's with about sixteen seventeen million dollars
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: of the shared revenue going to the football team and
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the rest being supplemented with you know, Garf's and Eccles
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and James Peterson money.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean five dollars for Olivier.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the question you got to ask yourself if you're
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: a Utah football fan, especially and you're a Utah basketball fan,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: and we all desperately want Gavin Peterson's team to be great,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Alex Jensen's team to be great, Carly Dockndorf's team to
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: be great, Morgan Scalley's team to be great. At Michigan,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: it looks like they don't really have to play picky
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: choosie on that stuff. At Ohio State, at LSU, at Oklahoma,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: some of these places they don't have to one or
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: the other. Texas Tech. I'm really interested to see how
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: that continues with Cody Campbell, especially now that he's feuding
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: with Brett Yormark, you might not have to choose which
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: team you want to uh, you want to give all
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: your which basket you want to put all your eggs in?
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: At Utah? The reality of the situation is, right now,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: you got a dozen eggs and you gotta put them
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: in four different baskets, and one, of course is football,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and that's gonna be the one that gets most of them.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: You're gonna give that one ten probably? Are you okay? Though?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Right now? As a Utah football supporter fan observer, if
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: a decision is made, if the urgency with which this
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: basketball problem has to be addressed is fully acknowledged and recognized,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: are you okay? Within somebody saying, you know what, I
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: shall take it upon myself to give the basketball team
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: an extra egg to work with. All right, how are
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: you gonna do that? Well, we're gonna take it away
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: from the football team. No no, no, no no no no
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: no no no no no no no. Can't do that.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Can't do that, won't do that? Well why not? But
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: because football is now the main driver, expectations are that
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: football will remain competitive and be great. Basketball you're trying
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: to dig out of this hole and try to get
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: back to competitive and great exactly. That's why it needs
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: excessive resources right now. It's a rebuild. You gotta pay
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: extra to get back to the baseline and let this
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: become a self sustaining product. The transfer portal is open today.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: If you do not make noise in the transfer portal
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: for Utah men's basketball, what are you going to be
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: next year? It's not a hypothetical question. Eight seven seven
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: three five three zero seven hundred. What are you going
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: to be next year? I think you all know the answer,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and it's not a fun one. And I don't think
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: it's because Alex Jensen isn't good at coaching, or doesn't
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: know how to coach, or as a hard time transitioning
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: into the college world. There were gonna be growing pains
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: all along the way. We didn't expect that this would
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: it would be quite as bad in his first year.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: But if we want the second year to be better,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: this transfer portal is where you're gonna find your answers,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: hopefully fingers crossed, potentially. What does that actually look like?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: It looks like a balance sheet, it looks like a
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: transaction record, it looks like receipts. That's what it looks like.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: That's what it takes for a program that's in the
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: state of Utah men's basketball Michigan right now on the
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: basketball front, because they just won a national championship, they
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: just get to roll a ball out a ball out
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: there on the floor and say come here, and you
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: can compete for a national championship. And still, what's gonna happen? Still,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: what's the question gonna be for Michigan who just want
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: an addy? Still, what is the player recruit and even
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: coach question gonna be? Yeah, I know I can win
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: a national championship. I just watch you guys do that.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I'm really impressed. That's why you're on my top five.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I want to be here. Okay, so you're gonna commit? Well,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: hold on, what's the question they ask gonna be? What
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: does my money look like? Here? And Michigan is in
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: this blessed scenario where they get to say, huh yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: we got that cover too, We're Michigan. Utah has to
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: get to a scenario on the basketball front and the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: football front, and probably to a lesser extent, but still
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: to some extent, on the gymnastics front, and they got
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: to say, oh, yeah, yeah, we got that cover too,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And I don't know how often you can keep going
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: back to the same well in the same buckets and say,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Hey Garners, hey Garfs, hey Huntsman's, we really need a
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: little bit of ext here. Hey eccles family. I know
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: you're already ridiculously generous, could you could you do a
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: little bit more so we can get this Santos kid?
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Could you do a little bit more? I need a
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: seven footer. I don't know, man, I just paid for
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: a three hundred pounder on the football team. I know,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I know, I know, but I still need that seven footer.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: We need a seven foot nin er. Actually, I need,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I need. I need this kid from Florida. All right,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: is he any good? Well not yet, but he's seven
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: foot nine. He's seven foot nine, so people are gonna
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: come watch him play.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: And didn't we just hire a big man guru as
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: a head coach. I mean he could be he could
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: be the player of the year. I mean under Alex Jenson.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: I keep I keep looking at these announcements on Twitter.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: The that being SAIDs you know the all glory to
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: God's there's a formula now where you put your Instagram
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Twitter tick announcement out there.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Thank you. I want to thank everyone who's been part
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: of this journey for me. B Yu is always gonna
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: have a place in my heart. Texas Tech's always gonna
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: have a place in my heart. Utah is always gonna
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: have a place in my heart. With that being said,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I'm entering the transfer portal with three years of eligibility
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: left or four years of eligibility left, or let's be honest,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I think I could probably play indefinitely because I got
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: a good attorney. Whatever these kids are thinking in their minds.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: The transfer portal is for some programs an alarm bell ringing.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: For other programs, it's a buffet that everyone gets the
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: belly up to and they're just like, oh boy, I
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: don't even have to be a good recruiter anymore because
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I don't watch high school film. I'm just gonna go
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: grab this kid out of the transfer portal for Utah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I think, unfortunately, right now, it's a little bit of
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: both the alarm bell being like, man, it'd be nice
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: to see if we could get TV to come back.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: He's gonna explore Terrence Brown's gonna explore the NBA draft
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: failing at He's going to be in the transfer portal.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: So the message that he is unfortunately sending is like
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: all I know is I'm not gonna be at Utah.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Or more optimistically, but also concerning if I don't get
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: good if I don't get good feedback from scouts, I'm
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: not a first rounder. I'm not even in the in
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: the draft profile. I'm not even get drafted this year.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go in the transfer portal to tell
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Utah that if they pay me a certain amount i
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: can I'll come back. But if not, I'm I'm going
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: somewhere else.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: The old Carson Templan. Yeah, Utah State sixth man of
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: the Year in the Mountwest Conference. For those of you
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: who have not heard the story already, Carson Templan made
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: the announcement last week before today's transfer portal official opening.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: He said, Hey, I'm jumping in the transfer portal. We
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: got a new coach coming in. I don't know anything
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: about him. Oh you know what, Actually, I'm coming back
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: to Utah State. I'm not putting my name in the
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: transfer portal. Concern I mean, you just laid out the
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: reasons why. That's also concerning though, if that's if Terrence
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Brown is all is not is leaving it open to hey,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: I would like to come back, just you got to
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: show me the money. That's also concerning. Here's the thing.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it extends to the basketball program,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: but I do know that there was a relatively hard
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: line taken in the football program, and the colloquialism they
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: used is we don't negotiate with terrorists. It's a good
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: point they would. They would say, like if a guy
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: was saying, hey, I'm going to go in the transfer
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: portal as a leverage play, the response from the team,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: even if it's a really, really good player. And I'm
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: sure there's exceptions to this rule, but for the last
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: several years, if if somebody was thinking that they were
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: going to leverage a transfer threat to get more money
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: out of the football program at the University of Utah,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: the result in most cases maybe all. I can't definitively
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: say I heard about every single case, but the result
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: was all right, good luck, have fun, we wish you well.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think this Utah basketball team
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: is in a position where they can easily lose like
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: a Terrence Brown type player. But I also don't think
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: they're in a position where they can be like, yeah,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: we got an extra two hundred grand line around. We're
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: happy to give you that. This transfer portal opening these
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: next two weeks are going to be as critical for
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Utah basketball as the decision to hire Alex Jensen was.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: This particular transfer portal window where there are no built
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: in excs, there are no reasonable well hold ons, where
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: it is just like, man, you've got your vision in place,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: you've got your coaching staff in place, go get the
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: players you want. Now that this right here is as
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: critical to the future of Utah basketball as any moment
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: in the history of this program has ever been. And
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: that's scary because you're relying on several moving pieces. You're
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: relying on checkbooks being opened, You're relying on players that
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: have little to no knowledge of what Utah basketball is
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: supposed to be, either liking or disliking the program based
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: on recent history most likely, and because there's not a
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: lot to like in that aspect, that means you're probably
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: having to overpay. And then once again you go back
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: to the moving part of can we get a little
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: bit more money. There may never be a more critical
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: time than this for Utah men's basketball all wall the
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Michigan Wolverines celebrated basketball championship. Good job, Dusty May gotta
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: take a quick one here, we'll come back. We'll talk
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: a little college hoop and of course some NBA with
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: our guy Gordy Chiasa. It's the Sean O'Connell Show on
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: That is.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: This out.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Let's get the latest all the Utah Jazz with former
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Jazz assistant coach Gordon Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: NBA than any of us will ever know.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk. Stay
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: for his list of the day.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: My list today, here's oc with basketball sob on Gordy
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I got to catch up with Gordy Chiasa, who joins
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: us now. Gordy, welcome back to the show. How are you, sir?
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: Seure and I'm doing well? Thank you.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: How'd you feel about the National Championship game in college hoops?
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: I thought it was really I'm unbelievable, intense game. Defensively,
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: it was a battle, slugfest, alley fight, and the Michigan
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: Wolverines the all around just game took it over in
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: the second half, and they made so many big plays
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: and Yukon refused to go away, and if they made
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: a few more shots, especially that running a life when
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: they missed and that five point swing end of the game.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: And you know, with Michigan, people forget that during the
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: game they only made two three point shots. They shot
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: two fifteen, which is thirteen percent, but it's when they
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: made him and that was the key. When McKinny made
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: that three point shot and broken play, that was the one.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: And so the timely shooting by the Wolverines got knocked out.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: The really the toughness of the Yukon it was really
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: there wasn't a well played game. Was a hard point game.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Well, the three point shots, that's the sexy stuff, right.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: The free throws are the thing that you sometimes see
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: teams neglect until they become a problem. The Wolverines were
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: absolutely nails at the stripe and that ended up being
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: a big difference down the stretch.
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, very much. They go twenty five for twenty eight,
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: including making twenty in a row for eighty nine percent,
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: and also add to that points in the paint. So
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: the winning formulator, the whole season by Michigan and Wolverines.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: Was the point paint in a three throw line. The
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: Michigan outscored Yukon in the paint and from the foul
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: line sixty one to thirty four in a six point game.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: So they didn't shoot straight both teams. But the Wolverines
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: got the bowl he wanted to and the paint a
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: two fouls or they scored on it, and that was
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: the difference of the game. I give a lot of
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: credit to Michigan and also so I give a lot
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: of credit to the Big Ten. So here we are.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: We live in the Big twelve country, meaning Utah and BYU.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: But let's remember fans right now. The Big Ten had
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: a great national stage this current college season. They win
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: the Big Ten Champion National Championship with Indiana Who'sa's. They
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: win College Basketball Men's CHAMPIONSHP with the Michigan Wolverines. They
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: win the women's basketball Championship with UCLA Bruins. So Big
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Ten had a dominant performance the whole league.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: You got a basketball school from the Big Ten winning
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: the football National Championship, you got a football school from
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: the Big Ten winning the basketball National Championship. They're just
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: dominating everything, Yeah, very much.
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: And that's the power of ni L money. How you spend,
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: how much you have it, who do you spend it to?
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: And I know later on you're gonna have Sean Mooney
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: on talking about the transupport of which starts today. It's changed,
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: so you have to reprogram itself. All the college sports
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: fans that money does teams win. I might say it's
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: the only reason why. But if your roster is very talented,
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: the chance of the winning a much greater, very similar
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: to the pros. But in the pros you're used to
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: having the salary cap and the luxury tax and the
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: first second apron all these different words you use all
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: the time. But you still have to get talent and
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: get them to play together as a group. And that's
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: what Michigan did last night. And the NBA players, which
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: start very shortly in April eighteenth, will see how it
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: all places, how it starts out.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: As far as the intensity, you mentioned the transfer portal
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: being open, and we were just talking about that and
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: how you have to, like, if you're a Utah basketball
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: program right now, you have to figure something out here.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: You're losing some of your best players to the transfer portal.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: You got to bring replacements back in, but you really
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: need improvement. You can't even just have like a one
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: to one replacement. You got to get more value back
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: than you're losing. And of course the best way to
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: do that is with money. But money's always a question.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: If they called Gordychi and said, hey, we need some advisement.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: We need you to figure out how we handle this
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: college free agency, what would be your approach.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: First thing, my money I spend wisely, including getting guys
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: on perimeter. So if you could improve your team at
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: point guard to guard, small forward, wing, how do you
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: want to word it hybrid forward meaning a stretch foreman,
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: That's what I would do because in college basketball, it
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: doesn't matter as far as I'm perimeter until you can
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: get that one big guy that you need maybe a
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: year from now where he's available. But spend your money
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: on the perimeter guys and try to get as much
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: shooters as you can, and try to get a guard
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: that can penetrate to make lesser talented people meaning big
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: guys in the lane they can score off off your
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: penetration and how you play the game as the guys
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: on perimeter. So I said, I would spend more money
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: as you're building a culture of in this nil money
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: stream on primitive guys.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Gordy Cheza for a few more minutes here on the
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Sean O'Connell show, let's switch our focus over to the
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: NBA and one of our favorite guys to talk about,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Victor Winbinyama, who he's got a bruised rib. How much
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: is this going to affect him for the rest of
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the regular season.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Well, they might hold him out, so it makes no
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: sense for them. They're going to try to attempt to
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: catch the thunder. It's unlikely. I think they know that,
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: and so they should hold him out until he's one
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: hundred percent with his range of motion. And you know
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: about a bruised rib is that it's hard to breathe.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: That's the first thing. And also as far as movement
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: and his body's angular, so he'll be hit in that
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: same spot literally thousands of times during the playoffs. So
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: it will affect them as far as maybe not winning
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: an extra game the last week of the season. But
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: they're pretty entrenched in the second seed right now with
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: that sixty wins, which is actually impress So think about
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: the Spurs last year they won thirty four games. This
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: year they won sixty games and maybe sixty one to
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: sixty two. And that's really a great turnaround led by
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: Victor Wembiama, but also the other cast of characters stooding
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Stephan Castle and their roster. It fits showing all the
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: guys on the team, the starting unit and the bench guys.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: They they play as a unit and each person on
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: the court becomes a floor mad because what one guy
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: does well, the guy next to him does something different,
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: as different as far as a movement, and that makes
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: the whole thing work in unison.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Will the Spurs allow Wein Binyama to play at least
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: twenty minutes in one of these final three games so
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: he's eligible for postseason awards?
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Yes they will. Yeah, the answer is yes they will.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: They're very conscious of that. Yes, and shoans alluding to
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: right now, you have to play sixty five games to
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: be eligible to make with wen Beyama the definitely the
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: most the best of US player in the NBA, but
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: also possibly getting high votes as far as being the MVP. Now,
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: I mentioned earlier last week that I would vote wen
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Beyamba the third and my ballot as far as the
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: League MVP one Shay two, Yolkaice and three and three
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: Victor Wehn Beyamba. That's just me talking that based on
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: individual statistics. But what a guy does for his team,
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: you take away when beyond and it's not as fall
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: now away from the Spurs, There's still be a very
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: good team. You take away Shay away from the Thunder,
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: they still be a good team. You take away Yokice
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: away from the Nuggets, yikes, they would be dramatically lesser.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: Speaking of Jokic is that I always talk about him
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: because what he does is like, we've never seen a
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: guy like do this, including like Wilton, those guys you're
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: not Sean, you know, always talk about The numbers are
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: just incredible. What he does for his team. A Jokicic.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: So last night they're down sixteen points in the fourth
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: quarter against the Trailblazer if they can't miss a shot
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: the trail Blazers, then a Nuggets dug in, so they
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: rally from sixteen points, they bring it to overtime. Jokic
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: last night gets thirty five points, thirteen rebounds, and thirteen
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: assists for the ninth straight victory. Right, here's the thing
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about as far as they illustrate the value
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: of Jokic. He's had thirty three triple doubles this year,
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: which leads the NBA. The second most triple double this
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: season is Josh Skitty of the Bulls with thirteen, So
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: Jokicic has twenty more. But here's the biggest thing. Shay
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Jillis Alexander this year has no triple doubles and Victor
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: wen Beyanda this year has no triple doubles in a game.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Zero from there, both of them from two of the
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: top three m VP candidates.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Correct, And they're great. And so the point I'm making
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: is that it's not trying to the spirit those guys performances,
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: because they are absolutely elite. But this is how brilliant
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Jokic is, just that he looks clumsy, so a lot
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: of times, you know, it's the eye test. You know,
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: He's the kind of guy that you would go to
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: a ball with and have a player and shoot pool with,
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean, and uh and have a
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: just have a fun time with his his brothers. Okay.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: But in the meantime, besides too that he's a great
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: basketball player and he's we never seen a guy like this.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: You know, Larry Bird was also a great player, but
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: Larry Bird had more bounce. This guy doesn't have the bounce,
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: but he has the unbelievable instincts, incredible shot maker, and
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: he's got some Baltic toughness. So beneath you know that
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: low jumping body, that guy puts his puts his frame
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: on the other guy's frame to create separation.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Gordion, I'm running out of time here, but I wanted
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: to sneak this one in. Uh. Mike Malone as the
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: North Carolina coach, how do you think that works out?
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: Very well? Tremendous coach. Has the East Coast tied to
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: the recruiting. I'm sure the higher staff and general manager
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: that's going to help Michael Malone. But as far as coaching,
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: they've upgraded tremendously. He's got street cred. When you coach
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: in the NBA and you're you're an NBA champion, all
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: the guys that might want to go to Carolina versus Michigan,
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: they're going to think about going to Carolina because of Mike.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: He'll do very well and they're back in play as
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: far as being a national.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Power, what's your list today?
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: Gordy all Right list today Sean speaking let three point shooting.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: This is uh.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: This list is a short list the most Korea made
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: trees by NBA players off the bench. These are off
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: the bench gunslingers, which is a thing. Quickly. The three
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: point shot in the NBA. This this forty seventh season
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: of it. The three point shot in the corners twenty
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: two feet. The off three point line is twenty three
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: feet and nine inches. The Olympics on LA starts in
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty eight. For the Olympic three point shot is
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: twenty two feet one and three quarter inches. Here we
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: go only eleven players. The eleventh greatest off the bench
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: three point shoot as far as may threes is monogenobile
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: and have ironically shown like like yourself is only the
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: lefty on this list. He made nine hundred and twenty
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: nine off the bench threes number ninth place all time,
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: tied Terrence Fross and Tim Hardaway of the Nuggets. They
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: both made off the bench nine and fifty six threes,
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: number eight all time.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: J L.
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: Smith a J. Smith Quickly. He's one of the few
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: guys that we know played for both teams during the
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: same game. By his performance where he's searching an erratic player,
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: but he can make threes. He's made one thousand and
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: twenty two threes number seven as we speak. Right now,
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: the assistant coach Utah Jazz Jason Terry. He made one
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: thousand and thirty eight, sixth all time. Former Jazz hate
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: check gunslinger Jordan Clarkson of the Knicks. Right now, Jordan
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: Clarkson has made one thousand and fifty six made threes
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: number five all time. He's the fall of the world's
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: greatest shooter of all time, Seth Curry. We're talking about
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: Del Curry. Also, former jazz man Dell made one thousand,
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: ninety three off the bench three number four. Nickname was
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: Sweet Lout. Lou Williams made one thousand and two thirty five,
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: number three all time. Nickname was Mister Double Crossover. Jamal
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: crawfin one thousand, two fifty nine. The second greatest three
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: point shooter off the bench career wise is Patty Mills,
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: who played most of his group of the Spurs one
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: thousand and two sixty two, and the number one player
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: of all time to make Korea threes off the bench
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: is former jazz player also shopshooter Kyle Korter Kyle made
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: one thousand and three eighty five threes off the bench,
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: thus showing don't we love threes?
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't love them because I think total in
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: my life, I've made about seven. But other people seem
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: to love them.
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: But think about though making off the bench, showing your
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: team is losing by fourteen, you come in the game
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: in the second quarter and so you make you know,
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: four straight threes and then your whole team is uplifted
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: and they get you back in the game. Or in
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: a playoff game where a guy makes you know, three
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: corner threes in the fourth quarter, it's uplifting for the team,
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: and hey, power to the people.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: It's really a cool thing when a guy gets hot
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: on a hot streak shooting from beyond the arc. But
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I just can't relate Gordy. I like watching it, I
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: just don't know what it feels like.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: So we should know showing that in playoff basketball that
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: three point shot is he your best friend for your
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: worst enemy depending how you look at it.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we're going to see some of that play
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: itself out with the upcoming NBA playoffs, and we'll have
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Gordy Chiasa joining us throughout talking about all the things,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: all the happenings in the NBA. This open now in
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: CLA Transfer portal and all things hoop. Thank you, Gordy,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Thanks you, and peace out. That's Gordy Chiasa, our resident
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: NBA guru. The Hot Lunch is next? Is it true? James?
• 47:27
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• 48:02
  Speaker 3: That's where you can find Big Willies. The lunch special
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  Speaker 3: today is this Hawaiian Burger. If you're watching on YouTube,
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Hey, how's it going good? How are you good?
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: You know coming off a busy weekend?
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, big weekend final four National Championship game last night. Obviously, hockey, Baseball,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: NBA basketball, all going on, you guys. I drove past that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: I was at a Costco run this weekend. I was like, dang,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: parties happening at Big Willi's. That's the worst Costco to
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: go to, By the way, what do you mean? I
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  Speaker 3: It's pack lunch, dude. When you go on a weekend though,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: they roll out the red carpet with those samples. I
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  Speaker 3: brought my two year old with me. I didn't even
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: have to feed her lunch after because we ate so
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: many samples. It was great.
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's we go there to pick up some stuff
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: for the many machines, and it's always it's never quick.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Let's just put it down. Yeah, it's an outing for sure.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: And on a holiday weekend, just it's too much. Okay,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: well if you want to be a curmudget about it.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: But Big Willies is an awesome place to be. We've
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: had this sports madness stuff going on. There's you know, basketball,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: there's all. Now we're we're kind of rounding into a
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: time of year where it gets a little bit less
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: at least on the college front, it gets a little
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: bit less saturated with sports content. But you've got playoff
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: hockey coming up, you've got playoff basketball coming up. Big
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Willie's obviously gonna have watch parties for all of it. Yeah,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: And you know, we have a lot of UFC events.
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: There's usually one every weekend with the fight pass and
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: then one with the pay per view, But we do
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: a lot of community stuff. We we sponsor a lot
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: of local teams, like the Wasahatch Roller derby girls. They're
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: having a tournament this weekend, a spring round up tournament.
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: We sponsor them. They'll be having an after party on Sunday.
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: So we just try to take care of the people
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: that take care of us. We sponsor a box lacrosse team,
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: which I didn't know there was two different types of lacrosse.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Box lacrosse is indoor lacrosse.
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and apparently it's pretty violent and they can check
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: for fun. Yeah, So we sponsored those guys. They come
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: in throughout the summer. And then of course we have
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: sports we're a huge sponsor of. They have like sixty
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: eight summer kickball teams this year, which broke a record,
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: and they all come in so we try to give
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: back to the community during the summer months to help
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: us get through till football starts.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: I could see you being just an absolute nightmare and
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: kickball were you like it? Really excellent kickball player. I'm
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: talking about young Patrick. I mean, we didn't really have kickball.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about? And then when we were
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: working at the bar, it was softballs. Yeah, and that
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: was a debacle. Yeah.
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: The bar league back in the day was too intense.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I do a PSA every now and again about the
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: like rec league, sports, whatever it is, kickball, softball, basketball,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Just calm down, all right, you're all there to have fun.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Don't get agro. Especially these days, there's somebody who there's
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: somebody who's a jiu jitsu black belt. There, there's somebody
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: wh's got a gun in the car. Just everyone just relaxed.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: It's for social it's just to have fun. Relax. Let's see,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: we've got it's Tuesday, so tonight you've got trivia or
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: is it karaoke with one? Bingos Tuesday?
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: Bingos Tuesday Trivia is Wednesday. We have poker three hundred
• 51:43
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• 51:46
  Speaker 7: which is really fun, mellow, it's not again super serious.
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: Everybody's there to have fun. And then on Peyton Night
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: coming up on Monday the thirteenth, we have that that
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: starts at seven o'clock. All so, and you can buy
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• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Oh so you're doing those little paint nights where they
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: like we do it still life or is it?
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Are you gonna pose in the nude? How's this gonna work?
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: I am gonna suggest you come in and do that. Okay,
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: all right, we will draw the crowd in with that.
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: Maybe you and James do something combined.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: It's for art, people, don't be don't be gross about it.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: It's art.
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: It's but it's a it's a good it's a good
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: date night, you know. Yeah, on a Monday, and then
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: obviously on the weekends we have the pool tables in
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: the pool hall. It's always fun, you know, come down
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: with your girlfriend, your boyfriend, have some cocktails, play some pool.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: It's good time, music's cranking. The thing is whether you're
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: a big sports fan or not, whether you want to
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: shoot some pool where you want to go and have
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: a paint night, a date night, big willies can take
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: care of all of it. And when you go down there,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: they've got the craft cocktail menu. Everything is carefully crafted, handmade.
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• 53:00
  Speaker 3: people down there are awesome. Even Patrick, I'm usom all
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: the time. Wow, you've been in a bad mooon. I'm
• 53:07
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• 53:55
  Speaker 8: How are you shadow condat him?
• 53:57
  Speaker 10: Good?
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: I like the watch times. We got a coin that
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: and go on the road with it, my brother.
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  Speaker 3: We need to print some T shirts whatever, Right, I
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  Speaker 3: like it.
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  Speaker 8: Well, at least we'll like it. It may be our
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  Speaker 8: wives and they may be the only two, but at
• 54:10
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  Speaker 3: I'll pike my wife buy a T shirt that she'll
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  Speaker 3: never wear. It'll be great.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, good, that's exactly right. You got to get the
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: right kind of T shirt.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Oh my gosh, depressing. All right, let's talk a
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: little hope man.
• 54:22
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Michigan National champions Uh. And look, it was a It
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: was a good game. It was a fun game to watch.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I was a little worried with how dominant Michigan has
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: been throughout the course of the tournament that it was
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: going to be kind of like the Michigan Arizona game was.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: I was looking forward to that contest and then it
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: was a dud. But National Championship game delivered.
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, and look look at Dusty May's I mean,
• 54:48
  Speaker 8: talk about doing it in style with the new type
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: of NCAA basketball, with all transfers and the best player
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: in their team exil y exel comes m UAB before
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: that Arizona Western, I mean, come on, obviously, what DSSE
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: Mays did this year in Michigan is something really really special.
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: And you know, they had a point guard that I
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: thought was the best point guard in the tournament. I
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: wouldn't have said that before I saw him dismantle Arizona.
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: I'm biased with Jaden Bradley, but Arizona defensively couldn't defend
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: Mara at the rim. And you know, yesterday you saw Connecticut.
• 55:27
  Speaker 8: I loved the game because it was a dog fight defensively,
• 55:31
  Speaker 8: which is my favorite kind of game. I know a
• 55:33
  Speaker 8: lot of people don't like it, but Connecticut defended Mara
• 55:36
  Speaker 8: really well and what a game man. And I'm not
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: a like like Dan Hurley. I think he's either you're
• 55:44
  Speaker 8: either pod or cold on that guy. And I've usually
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: been pretty cold because he seems arrogant to me. But gosh,
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: he's a good coach and he did a good job
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: with the team that had a lot of success.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Shown when Solo Ball banked in that three point shot
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: to bring it back within four and you see you
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: see him kind of like I mean, it's as intense
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: a moment as you're gonna find in a basketball game.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: And the camera goes over to the huddle and he's
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: looking at his player just like, wow, you begged that one.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: I was like, all right, maybe this guy, maybe there
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: is some likable stuff in there with this guy.
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: I mean, like, there's obviously likable stuff in this regard.
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: Like it feels like his athletes really like him, and
• 56:26
  Speaker 8: he seems genuine, you know, when he's talking to them
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: and like that, look you that's a really good moment
• 56:31
  Speaker 8: because I saw that as well, and he looked like,
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: come on, solo, did you call Glass? I mean, he
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: seems to be like that kind of coach, and obviously
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: he's fiery, and I think the thing that I haven't
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: liked about him is just because he seems to whine
• 56:46
  Speaker 8: a lot on the sideline. But frankly, you know, that's
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: his job, it's not the athlete's job. And and man,
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: that team, they're really good. I listened to the pressure
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: this morning and just listening to Caravan and Shot. You know,
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: the opposite of the new athlete who's transferred. He's been
• 57:03
  Speaker 8: there the entire time. They obviously really like each other.
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: And obviously that always has a lot to do with
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: success in any any part of life, but in particular
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: in a team sport.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: We're going to get to the utes, I promise, but
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I want to. I'm asking a bunch of big picture stuff. First,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Mike Malone, I love it comes back from NBA basketball.
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  Speaker 3: It's the first time in twenty five years he'll be
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: coaching college ball. He's never been a college head coach,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: and he gets one of the big blue blood jobs
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: in the land taking over this North Carolina program. What
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: do you think of that? Higher? What do you think
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: of his chances for success?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm a Mike Malone fan. I love what
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: he did at the NBA level. Defensively, I thought his
• 57:48
  Speaker 8: teams have always been exceptional. I mean, what a what
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: a higher? That seems to be a press conference winner.
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  Speaker 8: So you know some people would argue, and they may
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: be the people in logan, they would argue this that
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: you don't need to win the press conference, you just
• 58:06
  Speaker 8: need to win the battle. During the year, we'll see
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  Speaker 8: whether Mike Malone came to it. Obviously he's going to
• 58:12
  Speaker 8: have the resources. U NC is a great I thought
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: Youbert Davis following a legend is about as heart a
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: gig as you can get. No one wanted to follow
• 58:22
  Speaker 8: Rick mcjaris when he left and you know in suit
• 58:26
  Speaker 8: it may be hard for Mike Malone, but I mean
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  Speaker 8: I like his style. I think he's got good empathy
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  Speaker 8: just from watching him interact with his athletes at the
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  Speaker 8: NBA level.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think, Sean, Well, I'm curious to see
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  Speaker 3: how it works out. I'm of the opinion now that
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: pro coaches, even if you've been gone from the college
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: game for however long, I think pro coaches are going
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: to do well in college basketball because it's a pro game, right.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: I think there used to be a greater separation between
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: the two. And you know more about this than I,
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: but you had to be of a certain ilk. You
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: had to have a certain communications style. You had to
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: know how to handle these grown men that are making
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: big money and adult decisions and a lot of college sports,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: you know, five ten years ago was about relating to
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: the kids and babysitting in some respects. And now, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we just saw a team win a national championship with
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: all transfers. Like you made the point, right, It's like,
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: if you can handle free agents in the NBA, you
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: can handle college basketball now because that's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: So I think he'll be fine.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And to your point. I think it is more obviously,
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: you know, you have to handle that, and they become
• 59:35
  Speaker 8: more of a transaction. And I think maybe that's where
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: they really separate because I still think that I know,
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: the NBA on an average is pretty young, but I
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: think these kids are even younger, and so they I
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: still think they need some love and they you know,
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: that's one of the downfalls I think coming from the
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: pros coming into colleges, you know there. I mean, listen,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 8: let's be real. Always, athletes are only good when they
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: can do something for the program. Whatever that is got
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: to be something. And then I think you need to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 8: be kind of nice to them, even though they're making
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 8: a lot of money, and I think you need to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: treat them not like a transaction. So and then I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 8: think the big thing between the president of college obviously
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: is at the defense. Right, So in the NBA you
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 8: got to stay in one third of the court defensively,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: it's a lot different. And also another really big difference
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: is look at the big sean. I mean, watch that
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: game last night. Man, it was high low. You use
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 8: your bigs on the block. You get a lot of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: action out of going inside and using bigs, and we know,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 8: in the NBA, it's not a big game those bigs.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: All they've got to do is be able to defend
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: the smalls and the pick and roll. And if they
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: can't defend the smalls, it's a smalls game. Then you
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: don't stay in the NBA unless you have a great
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: NBA skill set.
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  Speaker 3: Sean Mooney is my guest here on the Sean O'Connell
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Show talking about college hoop. How much I don't I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: don't like to be overly reductive. It's part of the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: hazard of this new landscape in college sports where money
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: drives everything. How much of Michigan's success this year can
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: be attributed to the fact that they have, you know,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: among the top ten asset pools in all of athletic
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: departments across the country. I mean, it's what the football
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: program is going to bank on. But this basketball national championship.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: How much credit do we give to the boosters.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's such a good question. Man. Like I'm old schools,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 8: so I understand that I have to live in the
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: modern day and that I have to say that you
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: have to give let's let's let's give it fifty percent.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: Because if Dusty made doesn't do what he does and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 8: does it well, which is he's an effective communicator. I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 8: think he talked a lot about his habits and a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 8: lot about when you get your habits done, then you're
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: going to have success here. Regardless of what happens obviously
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: how he set it up, the team bought into it
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 8: as a team. And no matter how much money you have,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 8: if the team doesn't buy into what you're selling, I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: don't think it matters at all. As a matter of fact,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 8: you could have all the money in the world, but
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 8: if the coach isn't a good leader. And I mean
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 8: what I mean by a good leader is he's an
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  Speaker 8: effective communicator and people know their roles and they understand
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: how they're going to have success as a team, not
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 8: just individually. I don't think you win without that, and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: I think Curling and Dustin Mays are good examples of that.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: All right, now, let's talk about this transfer portal that
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: opened today in college hoops. Yeah, there's some important Utah
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: names that have I guess we've known now for a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks about guys like Kad. The intention was
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: there and now you can officially do it. And of course,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: on the flip side, of this, Alex Jensen and his
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: staff have to replace what's leaving, and they also have
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: to find a way to upgrade, and they have to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: do that against the backdrop up of what we just
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: talked about, you know, a question about asset availability and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: things like that. So, yeah, what do you Where are
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: you right now? With the transfer portal? Transfer portal opening
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: for Utah men's basketball a couple of places.
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  Speaker 8: One, I'm glad they moved it to the end of
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: the NFC tournament. There's only a fifteen day period, which
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: is kind of a not doesn't make a big difference, right,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: so you can get your name in there. Obviously, we
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: lost Caba a couple of years ago. The last minute
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 8: that whole thing went down to Burgess left and Caba
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: kind of went with him. I you know, obviously we
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 8: really wanted KD last year, so I'm sad to see
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: Katie go. I loved what TV could do as a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: high volume score. Would have probably been better for our
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 8: team if when he broke the paint he passed a
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 8: little more.
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  Speaker 3: But he's going to have a good ride somewhere.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 8: Ebie, you know, never really got it going Alvin. We
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 8: didn't see him Chapa and Jakai. We know about them.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: Josh was headed out. You know, I think the transfer
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 8: portal is really interesting because you really do have to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: go out and you've got to, in my opinion, you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 8: got to find point guards and you've got to find
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: some that have been pretty good not only defensively but
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: also distributing the ball and being playmakers. Especially in our system, Sean,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: if you can't playmake out of what we do. The
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: offense we run, it's really tough and you got to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 8: play make off it kind of two foot stops and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 8: the paint and our short dribbles or nash dribbles. These
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: are just different ways to create an advantage when you
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: draw two players. And then we got some bigs coming
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: in that we're going to really like. You know, we're
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 8: gonna love the kid from Austria, Finn Shot, who's been
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: playing on the senior men's team with Yaka Pertl and
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: Jackson Johnson. The Utah fans are going to be excited.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: Another six foot ten, six foot nine kid, four star recruit.
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  Speaker 8: And we got Katoa coming out of Layton, the really
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 8: good athlete and all the Utah fans know Katoa's names
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 8: we got some players coming in that are going to
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 8: help us. I'm excited about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The Katola family has already given you TA some good athletes.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Older sister was an excellent player. So okay, So coming
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  Speaker 3: off the year that Alex Jensen and his staff just
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: had where look, we knew that we're going to be
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: growing pains. You and I have already talked about kind
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: of like how we digest the season that happened inside
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: that inside that facility, maybe inside the locker room. Are
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: they saying, all right, let's ball up that first season
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: and throw it in the trash and start over. Are
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: they saying, here are the things we liked, and here
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: are the things that we have to get rid of,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Like what is the way forward against the context of
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: the season that just happened.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean a couple of things that you look
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 8: at us statistically, you know, we're really bad defensively. I
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: think we're one of the worst defensive teams in the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: in the Power for So we got to get better defensively,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 8: Number one one. We got to get better defensively. And
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: then I think in Chach Jensen's mind, this is just
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: me thinking through what I've seen. You know, he's looking
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: for playmakers that you know now they can drive and
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: then do something with that drive, either finish or make
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: the appropriate play. So again, like I think that they
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 8: don't want to ball up the season or throw it away. Obviously,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: you never want to have that those that type of scene.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: The worst season Utah has had in fifty years in conference.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 8: We don't want to repeat that. We want to learn
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: from it, and I think we will. You know, that's
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: the that's the hope. And now Chris Jensen, coming from
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 8: the NBA knows what the Big twelve is all about.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: You got to have some bigs. You got to have
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: some bigs that can rebound. You've got to have a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 8: big that can be either and drop coverage and pick
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: and roll or can hard hedge and then get back.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: So I think, you know, the two priorities are point guards.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: Point guards as many as we can get, and then
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 8: bigs that can help us defensively, you know, either and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 8: drop coverage or hedging or coming out and doubling the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 8: ball nink getting back.
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  Speaker 3: From a pure number standpoint, how many guys do you
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: need to bring in out of this open transfer portal
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: we've got.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 8: I did this mach just to look at it. And
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 8: we obviously, you know, there are probably gonna be some
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: more transfer port activity, so we can figure it out
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 8: when that happens. My guestimate is that we may only
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 8: have two players left. That's just my guess, doesn't mean anything.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: It's not informed by the coaching staff.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: It's just my guess. So we'll need quite a few.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: We'll need twelve.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 8: I just mentioned the ones that we have already signed,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 8: and we've got two, four, six signed. Let's say we
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 8: have two left. That's eight, so we're gonna need you know,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: another six players in the transfer portal.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Wow. Now go back to you know, your your fondest
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: playing days when it's you know, three or four guys
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: integrating to a group in an offseason or whatever. And
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: can we even imagine I know that like in football
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: we talk about, hey, fifty percent of this team is
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: brand new. Colorado had like seventy four new guys. Yeah,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: your uniforms are same, but your team is totally different.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean like soun thinking about it like so,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 8: And I think you probably know some some of your
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 8: listeners probably know this. There's something called the personality test,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: the Myers Briggs personality test. Let's just like try to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 8: figure out the personalities of ten new players and then
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: figure out how they actually learned, you know. I mean,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: so that's like part of the art of effective communication
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 8: is understanding the personalities you're bringing in. And obviously you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: want to find energy givers if you can not energy takers,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: and then you've got to figure out how they learn
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: because they all learn differently. Football, by far, as the
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: hardest sport from my perspective, because you've got so many
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: players that have to be on the same page and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: be cohesive. They may not like each other, but they've
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: got to be cohesive. And basketball it's really obvious when
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: you've got one or two players that are not on
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 8: the same page. So, yeah, it's going to be hard.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 8: And he talked Chushis and talked about continuity and keeping
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 8: players and building them, and you know, this is going
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: to be a tough lesson because it could be that
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: we don't have a ton left for continuity. Hopefully we
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 8: have some left to help, you know, propel this next
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: team forward.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess I don't know if it's a silver lining,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: if it's a good thing or a bad thing, because
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: everyone can upgrade. Also people can get worse as this
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: transfer portal does its thing. You look at the rest
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: of the Big Twelve. You know BYU has at least
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: one player in, and I've seen a couple of Kansas
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: some Kansas State. The conference was excellent this year and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: incredibly deep. It was competitive at the very very top.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: You had teams that were threatening for national championship runs.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: What do you think the transfer portal is going to
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: do from a net net to the Big twelve conference.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 8: Well, I'm not even gonna That's almost an impossible question
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: to answer. But if I was out there, I'd want
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 8: to complain the twelve. So I think they've got that cachet.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 8: And then we just added some really good coaches to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: the Big Twelve. Calhoun, who I stuck my size fourteen
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: in my mouth last time I was on your show,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 8: said I didn't think he was going I was wrong.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: That happened like an hour later. I should have just
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 8: listened to your Sean this the walk showns Come on?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 8: What am I thinking?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Come on?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 8: And then you got Randy Bennett, Whoho's the Saint Mary's
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 8: who's now at Arizona State. So I mean, like there's
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: some really good defensive minor coaches that are being added
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: to the league, and I'd want to.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: Play in the Big twelve and a heartbeat, you know
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: if I could.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's only getting to get better. I think
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: it's gonna be that positive.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up. I think we threw
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: in a blurb about Randy Bennett coming to Arizona State
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: and haven't really fleshed that out. He was an excellent
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: coach at Saint Mary's and that was an overachieving program
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: for many, many years under his tutelage. What can he
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: do at Arizona State because that that is a school
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: that has kind of recommitted itself to athletic excellence. And
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: I know there's a question about the sustainability of that
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: in the Valley of the Sun. But we saw with
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: football what happens when you get that team rallying and
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: the community rallying. Can he do the same thing in basketball?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: He absolutely came. We tried to get him when doctor
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 8: Chris sil was here. We definitely wanted Randy Bennett and
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: he didn't bite. It wasn't the right job for him.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: He'll be great.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 8: What's gonna happen is He's going to bring like two
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 8: or three big guys from Australia that are like seven
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 8: foot two, seven foot three, that weigh three hundred pounds.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: They're gonna sit on the block, they're going to offside
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: still get every offense or rebound. He's got to have
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 8: better athletes than he's ever had, and his system is
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: really hard to defend. And I'm sure Mikey Lewis is
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 8: coming with him an All WCC performer and he's a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 8: really good coach. So Arizona State all of a sudden,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 8: it's going to be a different team. I mean, it's
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 8: going to be even tougher than they have been. They're
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 8: gonna be even tougher than they.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Have been.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: When you look at the way the season played out,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: and obviously we just talked about the newly crowned champion,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: the Michigan Wolverines. You know, we spent a couple of
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: weeks ago just like, oh, Cinderella is dead. Is this
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: the product that we like? And then during the regular
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: season it was just like, man, I don't know, it's better.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: It's better now because you're in the Big twelve, but
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: regular season basketball and how much interest and how many
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: television ratings and stuff. Is college hoops in a good
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: place in Sean Mooney's mind?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: Well, okay, so just from a basketball standpoint, there's really
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: good basketball happening. I personally like it more than an
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 8: NBA until the NBA gets to the playoffs. If I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: had my brothers, I'd have them shorten their season to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: sixty games and it'd actually be more fun to watch
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 8: during the regular season. But Cuban said, is just for
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: the fan experience, right, College basketball to me is still
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: great because you have great strategy and tacticians taking place
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 8: every single game. The coaching standpoint, I do think that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: fans are unrightly so they're frustrated with the lack of
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: continuity and the lack of connecting to athletes. I've heard
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: that a lot, and I understand it. It is harder,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 8: and so I think that has hurt college basketball and
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 8: will continue to hurt college basketball. You know, hopefully we
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: can college basketball can figure that out and create a
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: new system so kids will be want to stay and
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 8: it will work better for them in terms of getting
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 8: into degree and getting connected to community. As far as
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 8: the basketball goes, it's the best I've ever seen and
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: for another reason, Shanne, just because statistically, they're literally more
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: good athletes than there ever have been, because there are
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: more people in this world, and if one percent of
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: them are college athletes, they're a lot more.
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  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: We're seeing really high level athleticism and high level of
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 8: shop making and playmaking across the board in college basketball.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: And now you have access to the whole world. Like
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: the guys that used to be stuck in Serbia or
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: in Mozambique that never saw the light of day, now
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: we see him on college basketball rosters when they're eighteen
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: years old.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 8: I mean, look at Illinois, man, like, what what does
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 8: Shack say? If your name ends in an itch, you
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: can shoot it? Well, he's right, He's right, man. But
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: you know what, Shawn, this year are American players at
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 8: the freshman class they were peasant shoulders above everybody else.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: And there's some good international players, but maybe they didn't
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: flesh out quite the same as the American players this year.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Is that is AAU doing something better than they used
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: Is it?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: Can we attribute that to anything concrete? I don't know.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 8: It's a good question. I'm like, if I had my
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 8: way of looking at it, I would have the kids
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 8: play less. I don't know if the AAU circuit has changed.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: I know this.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 8: I heard this from some of our coaching style that
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: there were teams that were being paid a million dollars
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: to go play in tournaments this summer, which is crazy,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 8: but you know it's going to make its way down
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 8: all across the board. Hopefully they play less and they
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 8: do other things, you know, other types of training. I
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 8: think kids are playing too much in this country just
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 8: in general.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 8: I can't answer that question. I wish I could. All
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: I know is this class was I got to see
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: it up close and it was really good.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Sewn. I always appreciate your insight. Man. Thank you so
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: much for joining me on the show today.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: Thanks Ton free Steet.
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  Speaker 3: You have a good day.
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  Speaker 1: Brother.
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  Speaker 3: That's Sean Mooney and together we are the two Walk Shawns.
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  Speaker 3: You can hear him well. I guess next season now,
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  Speaker 3: as a color analyst on the Utah Basketball radio broadcasts,
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  Speaker 3: the Daily Dump is next. You saw a Division one
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: national championship one by Michigan in impressed fashion. Let me
• 1:16:01
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  Speaker 3: that got them to the number one play on Sports Center.
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  Speaker 11: Five seconds. It's five seconds.
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  Speaker 3: That was the D three National Championship winner. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: Mary Washington, the University of Mary Washington impromptu obscure mascot
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  Speaker 4: Is George Washington. You would think, no, it's Eagles, George
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• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: just disgusting airball, but ended up effectively being a tip
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: in alley up to one of his teammates because he
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: missed so badly. So he called it the most spectacular
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: failure ever. Totally missed, totally accidental, but teammate there to
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: clean it up with the putback national championship victory in
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: D three basketball. And one thing that is easy to
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: forget because we're talking about, you know, Michigan versus Yukon,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: and we're talking big time power for basketball, the players
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: and coaches in the D three Championship care about their
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: win every bit as much as the Michigan players do. Obviously,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: the country doesn't. The fans don't it doesn't sell out
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: the same way. This is a four thousand student university
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: instead of an enrollment of like fifty or sixty thousand.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: But goodness gracious, it's fun to see small schools sometimes
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: because those kids, they're just like a few inches shorter,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: but they're going equally bananas when they win a championship
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: So shout out to the Eagles, well done. I mean,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: it's not unlike what you're talking about. It's not unlike
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: the one A school winning the state championship versus the
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: six A school. It looks the same at the end,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: it feels the intensity feels the same while you're watching it.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Obviously, the skill levels and the height and all that
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: are a lot different. Honestly, It's something that I wish
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: I would have appreciated more when I was younger, because
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: I distinctly remember when I'm trying to figure out what
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: college football path, if any, I'm going to be able
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: to take. I was it's so adamant that it had
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: to be like big time D one football. Now, of
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: course it wasn't Power five football, but I was like, man,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: one of my best friends went and he played at
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: a D three school and was a four year starter,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: and he loved the experience more than I love being
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: at bigger schools, you know what I mean. So like
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: go where you can play. All you kids out there.
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  Speaker 3: If you're not six', six if you're not three hundred
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  Speaker 3: find a place to. Play and for you, individually it's gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Matter for your friends and your, family maybe it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: matter as much as if you're AT byu Or, utah
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: but you get to. Play so these, kids it's fun
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: to see. That it's fun to see a national. Championship
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  Speaker 4: Cool and to add to your, POINT i had there
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: was at least three. Guys there was probably more than.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: That my brother's only two grades older than. Me so
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: for my brothers age to my age that that actually
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: played college basketball At Southern Virginia, university you, know the
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: The mormon school that, yeah they which they played either
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: basketball or it wasn't just. Basketball there was a baseball
• 1:21:16
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  Speaker 4: they're recruiting guys for who weren't the stars Of Dixie
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• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: and and those guys actually played quite a. Bit you
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: know just how low of level that. Is but who
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: cares for those? Guys they got to they got to
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: play college. Athletics like how cool would have been to
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: for me who didn't didn't even make varsity in in?
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: BASKETBALL i MEAN i would HAVE i would have killed
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: to be able to IF i did make it that,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: far to be able to continue playing competitively for another few.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: YEARS i don't care about how the LIKELIHOOD i would
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: go pro at that, POINT i get to play.
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  Speaker 3: Basketball and if you went To Southern Virginia Orson Scott,
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  Speaker 3: did he so win? Win? Yeah the real, world where
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  Speaker 3: you don't get to play games, anymore is waiting for
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: all of. Us, Okay so if you're out there and you're,
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  Speaker 3: The Memphis grizzlies made twenty nine to three pointers last
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  Speaker 3: game record how much do you think they won By
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  Speaker 3: james ooh sixty? Points they lost twenty nine made in
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: a game Nine grizzlies made at least one three pointer
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  Speaker 3: and they lost one forty two to one twenty. Six
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  Speaker 3: not even a close. Game they shot almost fifty percent
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  Speaker 3: from three twenty nine for fifty, nine and they shot
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  Speaker 3: a lower percentage from inside the arc and ended up
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  Speaker 3: losing the. Game, wow.
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  Speaker 4: Eighty seven points from three pointers alone and you still,
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  Speaker 3: all that. MATTERS i don't know why we're so anti bank.
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  Speaker 3: nobody likes to use the glass.
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  Speaker 4: Anymore it's three pointer in, particular or free throws those
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  Speaker 4: JIMMER i, mean he probably still has some eligibility left
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  Speaker 3: COURT i want to know If jimmer ever banked in
• 1:26:10
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• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: can make fun of him for. It, well you baked one? In,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: no that's. Ridiculous so we were talking With Sean mooney
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: about the the effect that the transfer portal is going
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: to have On Utah basketball's roster and how many players
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: they're going to need to bring, in and his, calculus
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: and he made sure to qualify and, say, no this
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: is not this is not official from the program or
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: official from the. Coaches but he's, LIKE i think we
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: might end up down to two, players And utah is
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: not the only program in the country that's going to
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: be in this. Situation. Uh Tennessee Lady Volunteers basketball is
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: one of the storied programs in women's. Hoops they are
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: down to one single player for next season after the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: number two recruit in the twenty twenty sixth, class her
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: name Is Olivia, edwards has de. Committed so as of
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: right now For tennessee and women's hoops transfer portal, open same,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: Thing they're down to one player on the, roster one
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: a single player committed to play next year at The
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: university Of. TENNESSEE i get. It this is how the
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: landscape of college hoops is right. Now this is how
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: college football. Is baseball and softball and things like that
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: have a lot of movement as. Well Although i'd be
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: more surprised to hear about a single, player one lone
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: wolf remaining on a. TEAM i JUST i feel like
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: it's partially my duty to remind everyone that entering the
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: transfer portal sometimes you're cut and you're asked to enter
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: the transfer, portal, right but doing so voluntarily is banking
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: on another scholarship being available for you somewhere, else free
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: education being available for you somewhere. Else potentially another nil
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: deal if that's the level you're, on being available for
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: you somewhere. Else it is a huge. Risk it is
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: an insane thing that we have glossed over it and
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: we have pretended that it's not a big. Deal it's.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: Massive AND i know it's not always the player making this,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: decision But tennessee having one player left on the, roster
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: probably at least three or four of those were galas
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: who were just, like, Yeah i'm going and maybe there's greener,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: grass maybe there's.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: Not that is.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: SCARY i don't have a number on the number of
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: players in the transfer portal of men's and women's hoops,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: yet but we'll get. One maybe we'll do it on
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: the show tomorrow because we've done this with. Football right
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: where transfer portal opens and it's, like, oh, well twenty
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: four hundred people entered the first, day what the first
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: hour actually pretty pretty.
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  Speaker 4: Wild, yeah you're you're totally right about, this and this
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: is a point that you AND i make every time
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: the basketball or football transfer portal opens and will continue
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: to make.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: It it really needs to.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: Be it really speaks to the advice that these that
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: these players are getting, from whether it's the representation if
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: they've got agents or managers or, whatever or the family,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: parents whoever it might be that's guiding these players like
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: they're not Going it's it's unreasonable to, expect particularly the
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: agents to do, this but they absolutely need to be
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: the ones that, say need to be the ones in
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: these players' corners to, say, hey are you? Sure because
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: of Course i'll do my. Best doing this could be
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: potentially very, lucrative but also doing this could be potentially very.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: Disastrous so are you? Sure but they're not going to
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: do that because of the first THING i. Said they
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: see it as, well this could be very lucrative for,
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  Speaker 4: us and they're gonna go with that for the most.
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  Speaker 3: is not a surprising, story but it is a lovely.
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  Speaker 3: One Fernando mendoza reportedly will not be attending the UPCOMING
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: Nfl draft in Person april twenty, Third. Pittsburgh he's expected
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: to have his name called number one overall to be
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: A Las Vegas raider and For, Nanda mendoza, is at
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: least for, now according to, reports opting to stay and
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: hang out with his family In. Miami you're the number
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: one overall. Pick this is a much bigger flex than
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: attending wearing the fancy, suit making sure you got extra cool, shoes.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: Whatever AND i love that fashion. SHOW i love that
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: big boy's pageant that happens at THE Nfl draft every.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Year this is such an incredible flex by a guy
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: who it fits his personality seemingly. Perfectly Banana mendoza hanging
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: out In miami with his, parents with his, family with
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: that aunt who looks like she could be his, sister
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: just doing his own, thing instead of on to THE
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: nfl First round In.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh, yeah and even though it fits his personality to
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: not go where the big show, is it also simultaneously
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: doesn't fit his personality to flex like.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: This, Right, well he doesn't view it that. Way, yeah it, is,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: though an ultimate flex where you're just, Like i'm Not
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: i'm going number. One who? Cares i'd rather hang out
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: with my. Family maybe maybe we don't know. This Maybe
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: Fanana mendoza secretly just Despises Roger goodell's and it's, LIKE
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: i don't want to hug. Him, oh we can only.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: HOPE i don't want to walk across the stage and
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: have to give that guy a, hug the the most awkward,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: hugs by the, way he the lingering that happens When
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: Roger goodell, Ish i'm glad you brought that. Up Roder
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: goodell knows in his heart of, hearts this person is
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: gonna hate me seven minutes from. Now as soon as
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: you become a, player you just have to Dislike Roger. Goodell,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: right and so he takes his final opportunity to just
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: be like, please, son, please and the players. Oblige. Right
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: they're having the biggest moment of their. Life their dream
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: is coming. True you could Beat Darth vader and they
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: be walking up there and giving you a big. Hug voldemort.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: Himself they just.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: Be, like, yeah, dude well hold, on you're saying his.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: Name it doesn't bother, Me. Okay fear the name is
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: fear of the. Person, Yeah i'm not.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Scared the The Roger goodell, like, yes this guy actually
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: likes me is the funniest thing that you could see
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: at the, draft where he's like equally excited to get
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: the hug as the kid is to get drafted and
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: have his lifelong dream come. True it's the most awkward.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: THING i will say this.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: Though Adam silver's like stiff man hand handshake, too where
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: his shoulders look like way too, Rigid like he's like
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: he's practice the mechanics of giving the handshake a little
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: bit too. Much that's also very. Awkward BUT i prefer
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: that to the what thirty second to two minute hug
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: That Roger goodell's to each of the first round draft. Picks,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: yeah you can, do, okay the acceptable, hug right is
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: the bro. Hug it's the it's the, handshake pull it in,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: Hug pat.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: Pat if they want to, squeeze, fine pat pat again
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: and then you're, done all.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: RIGHT i don't EVEN i don't even mind a, full
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: a full on, hug just like you can do it less.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: Awkwardly you don't have to and you don't have to
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: linger as long as you. Do but, yeah that's that's
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: probably best case, scenario the do the bro hug pat
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: on the back.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: Thing Trayvon walker twenty twenty, Two Trevor lawrence twenty twenty,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: One Baker mayfield twenty, Eighteen Miles garrett twenty seventeen famously
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: did not attend the draft, themselves.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: At least with With Baker, mayfield that was like mainly
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: because we didn't know he was going number.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: One he had to make a phone call and convince
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: somebody to draft him in the first. ROUND i don't
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: know why his name's on the, list but there it.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: Is you, know it was the coolest, one and it's
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: far enough back that they obviously didn't want to acknowledge.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: It remember When Joe thomas was being drafted and he went.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: Fishing they were, like they were, Like, JOE i forgot about.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: That Like Joe thomas is on a boat somewhere In Lake.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: Michigan we can't get a hold of him right now
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: because he went fishing with his like dad and his.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: Brother knowing he was gonna get drafted in the first.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: Round he was just, Like, Ah i'm just gonna go.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: Fishing come, on we should, uh we should Ask Jeff
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: schwartz what his hug With Roger goodell was.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: LIKE i don't, wait he he was drafted a little
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: later than. That, uh you know, WHAT i don't. Know
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe jeff remembers who announced his his. Pick oh trivia.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: QUESTION i just remembered from what last year's, draft same exact,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: round same exact act pick As Caleb glaner went to The.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: Broncos that's, right that's, right isn't that? Eerie two thousand and,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: Seven Joe Joe thomas skipped attend in THE nfl draft
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: In New York city to go fishing for trout and
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: salmon On Lake michigan with his. Dad, oh, yes that's the.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: Move they charted a boat called The Foxy. Lady now that,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: right there is a trivia question for. You so are
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: they they have A tv on this, boat they have a.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: Radio they were listening somehow right when he got drafted
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: in two thousand and. Seven it's not like you didn't
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: have data on your phone back. Then really, Yeah AND
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: i mean they you had portable. Radios maybe they were
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: maybe they were just tuning. IN i guess, You, yeah
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: you're probably just. Listening you would have had a cell.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Phone Lake michigan falls within where you've got, service so your,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: agent your agent is just, like, hey they're calling right.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: Now but like you'd WANT i.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: WOULD i would think you would at least want to
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: hear your name being called or if you can't, watch
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: to your, point that was long enough. Ago you're not
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: you're not necessarily able to watch on your while you're
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: out on your fishing. Boat but if you if all
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: you can do is hear your name being called on
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: a portable, RADIO i would think that they would have that.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: On but, MAYBE i mean maybe. Not maybe they're, like you,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: know agent's gonna, call and so we don't have to
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: we can go. Fishing we don't have to be connected,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: anyway as long as we have self. Service, okay they
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: did have a camera crew with. Him, oh camera. Crew
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: you know what else is? Insane Joe thomas now doesn't
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: even look like the same human. Being he's so much.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: Smaller he's so.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: Lean now This i'm looking at the video from two
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: thousand and seven and he's like three hundred and twenty.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: Pounds now he weighs like two. Fifty he's got a six.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: Pack doesn't even look like the same. Guy He's joe six.
• 1:37:56
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  Speaker 1: and the NBA's tank.
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  Speaker 3: Rates do we still have good news in the tank
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: race for The Utah, jazz who are of course trying
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: to keep that pick at number? Eight James peterson gives
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: us the tank race. Update what do we, Have?
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  Speaker 4: James so, yeah we still have good news because neither
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: of The jazz or The kings had played since.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday So, kings maybe we were in.
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  Speaker 4: Action we got good. News still tied for. Fourth there
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  Speaker 4: both teams in. Action Tonight jazz at The. Pelicans you
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: And gordy talked about that. Earlier that's tonight at six
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: on K Jazz kings are playing The warriors at eight.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: O'clock Steph curry is. Probable he'd recently returned from a long.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: Injury don't expect with only a couple of games left
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: that they're gonna hold him out before the. Playoffs you
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: figure that they want him to get in the rhythm,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: here so he will be playing. Tonight Christophers porzingis is.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: Questionable hopefully the tank for the tank's, sake don't have
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: don't have porzingis available if you're The, warriors so that
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: The kings can pull off this. Upset The pelicans are
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: not a good. Team that's one to be a little
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: bit worried. About oh see that The jazz could mess
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: around and get a win tonight in the big Easy
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  Speaker 4: kings unlikely to be able to beat The warriors At
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: Chase center In San. Francisco but that's the that's the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: two games. Tonight again a reminder remaining schedule for both.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: Teams two games left besides tonight's. Games friday is the
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: home finale for The jazz at The Delta, center of,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 4: course against The. Grizzlies not a good. Team they, shoot
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: they make twenty nine threes and still. Lose, okay that's
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: one you gotta be a little bit nervous about for
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: the tank's. Sake And sundays the season finale At crypto
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  Speaker 4: against The. Lakers that one's also sort of winnable because
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: now No luca Noh Austin.
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  Speaker 3: Reefs so a.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 4: Little, bit a little bit of nervy times for The.
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  Speaker 4: Tank for The Jazz king's remitting. Schedule they play The
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: warriors tonight then they played them again in their home
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: finale On, friday and Then sunday is also their season
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: finale In portland against The. Blazers. Again updating the, standings
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: they're both tied for. Fourth if The kings could just
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: get one more win and The jazz lose out O
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: c that pick is theirs to. Keep so we are
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 4: so close to this being a successful TANK i KNOW
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: i Heard Tom haverstrow on With Spence. CHECKETS i know
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: there's many in the fan base that would view this
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: as a as widely disappointing if they don't get they
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: don't get the opportunity to draft Aj.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: Debonsa BUT i don't really see it that.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: WAY i just the opportunity is to keep your pick
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: and it doesn't go to the defending, champs because even
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: if you get even if you pick, fifth sixth or, seventh,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: eighth you get a chance at a really good player
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: this year's. Draft Not aj De, bonsa but a really
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: good player help you win starting next. Season so that's
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: your tank race. Update well, Done, james with the tank race.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: Update we've got some important news to. Break well to,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: Reiterate i'll, say.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: And we'll talk With Jeff schwartz next On The sean
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  Speaker 3: Of Jeff schwartz is on a beach somewhere on a
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: vacation because that's all he, does but he's still kind
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: enough to join Us, Hey, jeff.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: He went on a fishing fision this morning with four
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 5: hours and catch one. Fish i'm not even closed. Anything
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 5: it was very it. Was it was with six kids
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 5: on board for four. Hours the last two hours were quite.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: Difficult you can imagine that is.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: Terrible i've only had good fishing experiences on the, ocean
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: SO i keep them few and far between BECAUSE i
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: never want to get skunked and have that bad story
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: that that's no. Fun i'm sorry that. Happened it wasn't.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: FUNNY i don't like to fish for this exact. REASON
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 5: i don't have the patience for. It did you get
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: to do a little two of the waters and? Whatnot
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: BUT i fell back to the kids who were so
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: excited that my son loves the, fish like the fish
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 5: as the beach and the. FISH i went To seattle
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: and a fish In seattle when were there in the,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: fall like loved fish.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: And salmon and love.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: It AND i felt back to them and they got scumped.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: Out but you, know such a. Bluff we were just.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: Talking about The Joe thomas decision to go fishing instead
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: of attending the draft Because Frenana, MENDOZA i, guess is
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: not going to do the. Draft if you had been
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: a projected first, rounder what would you have been doing
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: on Draft? Day because you're not the type to go
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: get all dressed up and sit around to wait for
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: a hug From Roger.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: Goodell, well, Thanks, pull don't have to worry about that.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: SISSION i, UH i probably would. Have i'm really surprised
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: when The bill is not. GOING i do wonder if
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: THE nfl like ask him to, reconsider you, know like
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 5: part of the deal is is this right, like you're
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 5: a franchise. Quarterback now you're the number one think in the.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 5: DRAFT a lot of time it's gonna. Happened this. HAPPENED
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: i think Was Trevor lawrence was, about you, know kind
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: of like a code situation OR i was twenty twenty,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: ONE i, think and maybe not everyone was, going BUT
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 5: i don't, know, MAN i JUST i feel like it's
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: a pretty sure have to just accept that this is
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: your sort of fate, now right like you're a franchise,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 5: quarterback and part of that it's being an event like,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: this and SO i it was disappointed to see what
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: he's not going to. Go AND i get that some
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: of your, family but you already know you're gonna be
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 5: the first pregnant, draft and So i'm really anytime you,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: want you, know you can set down after right when
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: you can tell her whenever you. Want i'm just surprised
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: no one has been, like, bro we kind of easy, there,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: MAN i mean to have it doesn't feel. Weird treaman
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: draft and the first one that's not going to be.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: There it is a little bit, Strange Like i'm fine
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: with it because then the second pick will probably be
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: there and the third pick will probably be there, whatever but, uh,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: yeah it just it feels like The Fernando mendoza personality
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: story is going to be a lot of fun to
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: digest because instead he's going to be like sitting on
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: a couch with his, mommy and that fits his. Personality so, well.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: YEAH i the PERSON i Think i'm kind of curious,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 5: about you, know because you, KNOW i think it's. Real
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: but you, Know, sean let's say there are four or,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: nine you, know at one point this, year and he
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: does some of like the aw shucks thing after the
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: love the, Game i'm talking to play With Max crosby
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: in the locker, room you, know like that it's sort
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 5: of fun to be that. Guy when you're. Winning and
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: he saw that With Russell wilson right when they were,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 5: winning that aw. Shucks Like I'm Russell, Wilson i'm very
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 5: sort of you, know will corny robotic with the WAY i,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: talk and WHAT i say is it's great when things
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: are going.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 6: Well and it.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: Doesn't go, well, right it quickly turned against. Him So
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 5: i'm not saying That batsman does us track, here BUT
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: i am kind of curious to sort of follow along
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 5: with his. Personality he's sort of like too young to
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 5: be to like kind of be like this sort of
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: A Kirk cousin. Personality so, oh, no, MAN i. AM
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: i am kind of curious to see how this develops
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 5: over his, career whether or, not you, know he can
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: sustain a career sort of it's sort of aw shucks
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: mentality about about.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: Football, Well I'm i'm curious to see how that plays at,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: Also BUT i, THINK i, mean we saw a little.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: Bit people weren't putting a lot of microphones In Fernanda
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: mendoza's face when he was At, cal so we have
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: some sample of what it looks like for him when
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: he's not winning every single. GAME i also think that
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: his like kind of like inspirational self help. Personality part
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: of that comes from he doesn't have questions to, answer
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: you know WHAT i, Mean, like, hey For, nanda how
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: come you guys were so good in this? Game and
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: he's got to be, like, oh my teammates are the
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: best in the. World when there's something to actually, answer
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: like you miss, this you guys didn't get this conversion
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: when you needed. It, WHATEVER i think he'll be capable
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: and fine to like actually have that conversation instead of
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: finding something to fill the. Time otherwise it's just, Him
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 3: like this whole year was just, Like, wow you guys
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: are really, good and you had to find a bunch
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: of different ways to say, yeah we.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Are.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah so accountability is really important to one of. Us
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: and that's WHY i think sometimes AND i gain trouble
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: saying this In Salt Lake, city but part of that's
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: before on our, shows like sometimes guys sort of still
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: responsibility using religion the way to do. It and it's
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: frustrated to me sometimes WHEN i see players and they
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 5: just you, know they're asked about a certain player or
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: a bad performance and they just say something like, this you,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: know you know what guy's fame that, happens, right and
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 5: players note, that, man like you, know you don't take
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: responsibility when you have when you have bad things happen to.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: You and they're there are, quarterbacks they're prominent. Players they
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: just don't do. That AND i sold the locker room,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: man not think. Responsibility, like we're all miss. Together we
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: all make, mistakes we all make. Ails AND i have
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: a slight concern about that With, mendoza not a, lot
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 5: but like you, know it's JUST i do think there
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: are some players that have sort of that position and
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: had trouble in the locker room over the, years but
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: they're just not taking. Accountability, man like we all just
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 5: we all want to. Win we're all in this. Together
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: we all want to be the winners. Together and if
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: you make a, mistake it's. FINE i, mean if the sakes,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 5: happened we're All i'm making, mistakes you made the, mistakes
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 5: we all made. Mistakes just sort of own it. Sometimes
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 5: AND i do wonder if if that might play well
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 5: at some point on his. CAREER i don't, know but you,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 5: right he hasn't had to do any of that BECAUSE
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 5: mana were so. Good he had to be like my my,
• 1:50:08
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• 1:50:10
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• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh you Mentioned Kirk cousins a second. Ago why
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: why is every player in THE nfl not calling his
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: agent to be like you're my guy?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 5: Now like McCartney that's his. Agent was one of my
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 5: agents WHEN i played as. Well you, know it's so
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: interesting about you mention this because you, know we we
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: talk a lot about about uh guaranteed contact in THE. Nfl,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 5: right he just ta wants to got that guaranteed deal
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: with The. BROWNY i haven't had a quarterback get that
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: deal since Well cortin's has god Drug and this was
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 5: a little funny with the language in five years and
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 5: one some five what ever it. Is but you know
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 5: it's really a one year. Deal but, me it's like
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: twenty million, guaranteed and he's he thought about for like
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: eight years. Now so you, know maybe because it's not
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: it's not like the most money ever every, deal we
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 5: don't look at it quite the same. Way maybe because
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: it's just sort of pleasures and you, know he didn't
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 5: have the baggers Of Shana. Watson did.
• 1:51:15
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• 1:51:16
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• 1:51:25
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• 1:51:27
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• 1:51:30
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• 1:51:32
  Speaker 5: lamar and like not For, cousins.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Just like it just.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 5: Didn't it didn't and so he's. Inquiry BUT i, mean
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: the Business hall Of famer made more. MONEY i think
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 5: he has the most guarantee money THE nfl outside Of Matt.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: Stafford so, well pretty, uh pretty.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: Wild he's gonna when he's done with this, contract AND
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: i know that somebody will eventually, passive but, this this
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: contracts him Over Tom brady is the highest earner in league,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: history Like Kirk. Cousins.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 5: H i, mean part of that is obviously is we
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: know that you know. You the more that you the
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 5: longer you, play the start to go. Up, Right so
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: he's played me to make. Money BUT i think if
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: you would ask, people you know who who has made
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 5: the most money in their, careers just would have cousins out, there,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 5: right you would, think you, Know, Mahomes allen And stafford And,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 5: brady but his cousins now's Business hall Of. Famers so
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 5: good for. HIM i really he really grew on. Me
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 5: but not to watch him on That quarterback show In.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 5: NETFLIX i was sort of like to see his personality
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: outside of the. Football and AGAIN i think that you,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: know he's going to be a good leader from from
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: and those are there In vegas and he knows his
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: role which is important. There so looking forward to.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: It what is the offensive line THE nfl offensive line
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: group chat saying about you Are bernard the freak athlete
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: from THE hbcu showcase in The International player. Program, uh
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: this kid out Of. Nigeria if you weren't listening WHEN
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: i talked about him last, week just to refresh, everyone
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: six foot four and a, half three hundred and six,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: pounds ten ten broad jump thirty nine inch vertical four
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: six three. Forty but he doesn't know how to play football.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: Yet they said he has six percent body. Fat he's
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: he's a three hundred powder with a six. Pack it's
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: disgusting what this guy's athleticism is and he projects as
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: an offensive or defensive. Lineman what's the what's the chat?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: Saying, WELL i will say that a body fat things
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: seemed like like a low, number BUT i, mean look it.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: Is we've seen a lot of players in as a
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: TRANSITION i mean basically it was called basketball for him
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: right to THE nfl those guys that for the most
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 5: part right have been the ti, ends, right you, know
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: the those, guys and we're going from never playing before
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: to offensive line has been done before and joined him
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: a lot did it, Right but you, know it's just
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 5: really it's really hard to. Do SO i, MEAN i
• 1:54:21
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• 1:54:27
  Speaker 5: seems very just very hard to pull. OFF i wish
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: that's the, luck AND i hope you can do. It
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 5: but you, know for every time we Get antonio, games
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: who probably have ten guys that you know that that
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: aren't able to pull this. Off so i's all the
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: pictures of, THAT i, mean, okay incredible. Athletes the one
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 5: THING i loved THAT i, saw you, know people were,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 5: saying uh to that was, like well wait until you
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: know the international community starts playing football. More and and
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: you know that the international community takes over sport like,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: baseball right in the, basketball the utter community is so
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: far behind in, football like it's not fifty years in a.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: Way it's the low part of. THAT i, mean they're
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: at least popping up, certainly and especially In, europe but
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: it's so they're just so. Funny you, know they all
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 5: have international professional teams that even compete like like, basketball
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: right or. Baseball SO i love seeing it that we're
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 5: bratching out a little bit and continue to. Happen but
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: about some of it just you know in at like
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: like hy probably oh just wait twenty years, now so
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 5: you know everyone inn is not gonna happen.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: That the same. Rate, YEAH i don't know that we're
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: going to get that same, saturation but if you can
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: find LIKE i don't, know five or ten of these
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: outlier mutants that are just like hanging. Out in his,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: case he grew up in a small village In nigeria
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  Speaker 3: and you turn that, KID i mean we we saw
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: that he was at a local. School zigyansa came From
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: ghana to B yu and he wanted to be a track,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: runner he wanted to be a soccer, player he wanted
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: to be a basketball player and ended up being the
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 3: number five overall pick instead and for a time he
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: was the most consistent pass rusher in his. Class so,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: yeah it works, out you don't need a bunch of.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: Them but every now and again it's a cool. Story
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: we'll see what This bernard kid ends up. BEING i
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: was up at practice the other. DAY i was talking
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: To Spencer. FANO i was talking to his, dad and
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: you know THE i was asking him about like this
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: time right now where he's a few weeks away from
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: getting a phone call that you, know that's the dream come.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: True AND i was asking him his level of patience
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: and things like. That if you if you take me
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: back to When Jeff schwartz was in a position where
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: he's leaving college football and THE nfl thing is a real,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: possibility you were not quite the same you, know draft
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: prospect That Spencer fano.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: Is but.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 3: What was the final few weeks like as you were
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: waiting to potentially get a phone.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 5: CALL i, mean it's, INTERESTING i. AM i was definitely
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 5: Not specifano THAT i was able. TO i seem to
• 1:57:08
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• 1:57:12
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• 1:57:16
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• 1:57:22
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  Speaker 5: angele with and we just think a last couple of
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 5: days and they just relax and just sort OF proti.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: UP i, mean this is very very before you know
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 5: the box drafts that we have now everyone. Doesn't BUT
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: i would be wrong IF i tell YOU i didn't
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 5: look at mark drafts and. Rankings and you know if
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 5: players say they don't do that, NOW i MEAN i,
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 5: maybe but imagine it's time of leading me in the
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: rumors about. Yourself you talk to your. AGENTS i don't
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: really know how much the agent gets. Information why this
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 5: time the, year especially if you're not going to be
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: On mendoza maybe maybe you, know you, Know David bailey
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 5: goes number two and it's you know that his draft
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 5: feels like you, know and those are one and then
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 5: really you, Know David bailey leads to and it sort
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 5: of from. There but don't you know maybe the top teniche,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 5: picks but where they end up to me at the question?
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: Mark SO i, mean just just, waiting, man you know
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 5: you've done the work, right you put the work, in
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 5: and she certainly, has and he's just waiting to. HEAR
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: i would imagine like row is a little different right
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 5: where He's he was probably a little anxiety with him
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: right just at my first round pick AND i pay two.
• 1:58:30
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• 1:58:33
  Speaker 5: he comfortably knows the first round pick you'll do to
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 5: go six or nine or, fourteen, fifteen, SEVENTEEN i don't,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 5: know but you know something the first round, pick and
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 5: he's had something who loves a, calmness.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: Knowing that all of the mock drafts seem to have
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: decided that that Mowing ola is going to be the
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 3: first tackle. Taken is that the conversation you're hearing as.
• 1:58:52
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• 1:58:55
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• 1:58:58
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• 1:59:03
  Speaker 5: that early primarily wanting to play tackle right, now there's
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 5: some that's Like Zach marger And Brandon, SHERIFF i think
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 5: playing backle in. College but those guys who are protecting guards,
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 5: immunity they're both all pros and incredible football. Players putting
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 5: out was drafted hiatt. Guard he started to. Talking dats
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: are very high and so you know lit good famili
• 1:59:26
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• 1:59:30
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• 1:59:34
  Speaker 5: tackle AND i think they're. Guarded if you are The
• 1:59:38
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• 1:59:41
  Speaker 5: i'm taking the guard tackle and do you think he's
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: firmly the right. Tackle here's The browns at, Six browns
• 1:59:48
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• 1:59:49
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• 1:59:53
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• 1:59:57
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• 2:00:00
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• 2:00:02
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• 2:00:05
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• 2:00:08
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• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: Careers do you Like Rvel reese Or David bailey better you,
• 2:00:17
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• 2:00:19
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• 2:00:25
  Speaker 5: COOL i Think leeves has less of a chance to
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 5: be bust Than. Bailey bills right a, year them are,
• 2:00:32
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• 2:00:36
  Speaker 5: linebacker a pass rusher in. Coverage David bailey is, impactful
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 5: but just a pass rusher right and there's some bus
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 5: needs to work, on you, know some more just a pass,
• 2:00:47
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• 2:00:50
  Speaker 5: probably take the. LEASE i think jetsified Thing david And.
• 2:00:53
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• 2:00:56
  Speaker 5: do you use your team? Like it's best part, available certainly.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 5: Matters but if, Here, jets your pass rush are so
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 5: bad that you need a cost, rusher And reese might
• 2:01:06
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• 2:01:08
  Speaker 5: a hybrid earliest career off the ball, linebacker pass, rusher
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 5: the really the pass rush right, now and you might
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 5: choose right now Of David bailey over the idea of
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 5: the kind of sort of really where the week is
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 5: going to be where a team might just look at
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 5: res some of you the cardinalson is we need to
• 2:01:26
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• 2:01:29
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• 2:01:31
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• 2:01:34
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• 2:01:37
  Speaker 5: Want David bailey over maybe the better football player right Now.
• 2:01:41
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• 2:01:44
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• 2:01:48
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• 2:01:51
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• 2:01:52
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• 2:02:00
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• 2:02:03
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• 2:02:07
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• 2:02:10
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• 2:02:12
  Speaker 5: that won championships and probably basketball stay. Together they want a.
• 2:02:16
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• 2:02:19
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• 2:02:22
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• 2:02:25
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• 2:02:30
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• 2:02:33
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• 2:02:36
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• 2:02:38
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• 2:02:42
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• 2:02:44
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• 2:02:46
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• 2:02:49
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• 2:02:51
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• 2:02:55
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• 2:03:00
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• 2:03:31
  Speaker 5: NFL i know that the composing years to break it,
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 5: down we need to come on here and break this,
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 5: down BUT i just Like i'm not doing. IT i
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 5: can't do it. Today are The mamoth are the playoff?
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 6: Teams?
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah the mammothur. Uh, well barring any crazy collapse over
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: the last few, games they're they're in the first wild
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 3: card spot right. Now they've Got edmonton. Tonight that's going
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 3: to be hugely important to determine who their first round matchup,
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 3: is because you don't want the playoff matchup to be
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 3: The Edmonton. Oilers but if you can beat, him then
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: it increases the likelihood that you get The Anaheim. Ducks so,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 3: yeah but second year of, existence maybe.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 5: Maybe they don't want to lose this. Year and The Stanley.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 3: Cuppers you, Said, WAIT i didn't catch.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: That what was?
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 5: That so maybe The oilers are hard of losing The Stanley.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 3: Cup, yeah maybe they will. Maybe, uh if they don't
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: win The Stanley cup this, year econom McDavid's going to
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: force his way out of. There so if they want
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 3: to keep him, anywhere what do you think anywhere in the,
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 3: like anywhere in the league wants? Him tampa, Probably, yeah In, Tampa.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 5: Florida team in The cup for like five, years, right.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 3: Yes which is. Crazy but The, panthers The panthers aren't
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: even making the. Playoffs you are you like all?
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 5: In are you like all hockey? Now like everything's breaking it?
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 3: DOWN i love. HOCKEY i don't know THAT i feel
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: fully confident in like doing full breakdowns on it all the.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 3: Time but we talk plenty of. It and it's a
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: super exciting time For Salt Lake city because you, know
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: the The jazz have stunk deliberately for like half decade,
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: now and you get a hockey team and immediately the
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 3: payoff is. There so it's, fun it's.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 5: Cool The jazz obviously for you, know for you, know
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 5: they're eventually going to be playing like the. Centers thanks
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 5: the years about a high.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 3: Draft, Thanks, yeah we're we're trusting the process right. Now
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: but they are currently tied for fourth worst in the,
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 3: league which means they get to keep their first round,
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: pick which is protected if it's eight or, lower and
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 3: hopefully they end up with like a top three. Pick
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 3: more likely that they end up with, five six or.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 3: Seven but it's a good draft this, year and then
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna have to turn it on next
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: year because they they made a trade For Jared Jackson junior. Earlier,
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: uh they've got a couple of young guys who really come.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 3: Along they have to try to start winning next, year
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: and it's all gonna be determinant, on you, know which
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 3: of the top draft picks they are able to get
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: in this upcoming. Draft how successful that let's turn it.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 5: On now is in my, Opinion, YEAH i, mean you,
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 5: know IT'S i don't love like the sort of. TAKING
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 5: i get the reason why he's during, it but like
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 5: it's like very in your. Sage they were, like, uh
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 5: you know, what, no no marketing And jackson you're not
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 5: playing a full.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 3: QUARTER i loved when they were doing half games and
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 3: tanking the second half of the, game but THE nba
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: punished him for it because of the degenerate gamblers like,
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 3: you so they had to stop doing.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 5: THAT i, mean you, know to his jazz the second
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 5: half of a. Game he's a story by the way
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 5: of this guy that were given them like ten brands
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 5: awayder on by his media company and then lost all
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 5: the ten brand but like dumbest way, possible didn't as
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 5: you try to look how to gamble at, all and
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 5: then like now like a spokes about how gamblings. Bad
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 5: you's just it's really. Kind it's just a balloting cover of.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 3: Gambling. YEAH i did read that, article and uh you
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 3: could sniff out how it was designed to do exactly
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 3: what it ended up. Doing just they were trying to
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 3: set some guy up for, failure, uh and then he
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 3: could be the cautionary, tale and that's exactly what they.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 3: Got The Super.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 5: Bowl he's still like five grandmothers in The Super. Bowl
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 5: he just five, minutes it. Seems so he's been on
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 5: the on the Freaking patriots who were who everyone you
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 5: weren't going to wait community cover that. Game really just very,
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 5: all very, Dumb.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 3: Yes quite. Dumb are your kids asking For conkak nipple jerseys?
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 5: Yet well you know they're. Not they're asking for videos
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 5: my squishes good squishing their. Hands, Okay i'm, Sorry, yeah
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 5: they're not another one day, yet but in the next,
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 5: TIFE i do want to Be Melling. Schwartz so it's it's,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 5: just it's just it's just my son must be. NICE
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 5: i would say like, that there's no kid it better
• 2:08:29
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• 2:08:31
  Speaker 5: like better Than Norman, shorts and, wow.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 3: Fuck, Nice you're the one spoiling. Him he's a good, kid,
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 3: though so you, SHOULD.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 5: I mean we should spoil the. Kids. Absolutely this trip is.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 5: Crazy we're in this house and and uh and iron
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 5: outside Of canton and enjoying ourselves and, yeah is it S?
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 3: Frett is this spring break for your?
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 5: Kids? Yeah, well for what has spring? Break he's gonna
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 5: spring but they In charlotte Or North torolna, maybe but
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 5: the public school spring break and private school spend break
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 5: the two separate, weeks and So als really has it
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 5: at private school and as, transitionally because she's in public
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 5: school and listen did get into private school as, Well
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 5: sehn in the last, week AND i, told, like you're
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 5: rooting for a daughter to get in because just like
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 5: until you, know she didn't read private. School public was
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 5: fine for her and MY i should reported That Joe
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 5: pumus are going to. CROSS i couldn't think it's part
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 5: for it next, year she, Was it's it's one of the, things,
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 5: like well we did. ANYTHING i get? In also, like,
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 5: yeah like it's get.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 3: In it's not the word.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 5: Too it's, extensive, Man.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah private school is. EXPENSIVE i don't, know breaking.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: News everyone on the planet is. AWARE i just don't.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 5: Know i'm being very. FORTUNATE i put it on a
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 5: couple of. Years but we have some friends have three
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 5: kids in private. School how do do?
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 3: It my my older brother is a private school teacher
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 3: and he keeps that job exclusively for the fact that
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 3: he has three kids that go to the private, school
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 3: and so he gets like the tuition. Discount he's trying
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 3: to be a college, professor but he won't take that
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 3: full time until he gets his kids through this private.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: School it's a you gotta do what you gotta, do.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 5: Man you, agree but then pay to the private. School
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 5: by the, way the payment system is that you, KNOW
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 5: i looked a. Him we're going to cost the pay looking, bulk,
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 5: RIGHT i just pay right, away play one one time
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 5: to give you a discount of, like you, know IF
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 5: i pay him one, time they give a discount and
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 5: they offered a one discount and all the cost of
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 5: the tuition insurance and charge you if you pay market you,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 5: know you know three. Times you, know whatever it, is
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 5: they only need a discount if you pay if he, pays.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 3: Dude well at one point five, percent you might as
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: well just keep the money in your bank account and
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 3: uh in your investment account for the better. RETURNS i, mean.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 5: Not, now but, ideally, WELL i mean we even have
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 5: a world in six, hours who. Knows But uh's like
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 5: it's not great like to be on a place that
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 5: have great seal service when they're talking about like blowing
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 5: up in entire.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 3: Country so, YES i. WAS i was In africa for
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 3: two weeks while war had broken out And, iran AND
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 3: i was just, like, man that'd be really crazy if
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 3: we'd logged back into the internet and we're just, like,
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 3: oh guess what. Happened so let's keep our fingers crossed
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 3: that when you come back from your, vacation everything's relatively
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 3: similar to when you.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 5: LEFT i, mean SO i really do talking with, you.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 5: Buddy as we had some ice started to go to
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 5: the fights.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 3: Again, yeah well that'll be In. July i'm looking for to.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 3: It and we got fights this weekend In, chicago SO
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 3: i know you watch every single. One make sure you
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 3: tune in ON. Espn, hi, buddy take. Sure Thanks. Jeff
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 3: That's Jeff schwartz on a beach somewhere in island off
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 3: the coast Of. Cancun must be nice living in that
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 3: lap of. Luxury all, Right edmonton At utah. Tonight The
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 3: mammoth have never beaten The? Oilers how can they do?
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 3: It we'll talk about that. Next it's The shan O'Connell,
• 2:12:29
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  Speaker 3: Am all, right big game tonight at The Delta, Center
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 3: Utah Mammoth Edmonton. Oilers you're well at this point that
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 3: The mammoth have never Beaten edmonton in the almost two
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 3: years of club. History this one is an important. One right,
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 3: now The Utah mammoth are firmly in control of the
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 3: first wild card spot in The Western. Conference you've got
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a gap between You Nashville La San.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 3: Jose in The Pacific, division The Anaheim ducks and The
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 3: Edmonton oilers are battling it out for. Supremacy the winner
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 3: of that division will be your matchup in the first
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 3: round of The Stanley cup, playoffs AND i think most
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 3: of us are hoping that that will Be anaheim rather
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 3: Than edmonton because of the aforementioned history Between edmonton and
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 3: The Utah. Mammoth if you end up with The, oilers
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 3: especially if they have a, limited a compromised or Without Leon,
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 3: dreisidel that's good news for, YOU i, Suppose but you
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 3: don't want to play against the best player in the
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 3: league in your first playoff series as a. Franchise ingram
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 3: has battled his way to that top goaltending, spot which
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 3: it creates for an interesting storyline if you end up
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 3: taking On edmonton in the first round of the. Playoffs
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 3: if you can Beat edmonton for the first time in franchise. History,
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: tonight you Put anaheim in a better position to win
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 3: That Pacific. Division edmonton right now holds the. Tiebreaker they
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: have six more regulation wins Than anaheim does in this
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 3: regular season so, Far anaheim is not going to be
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 3: able to beat them in that tie, breaker which means
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 3: they have to finish with more points Than edmonton, does
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 3: which means you Want edmonton to come out Of Salt
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: Lake city with zero. Points anaheim's Got nashville. Tonight The predators.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 3: Are they're not nipping at your hea if you're The Utah,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 3: mammoth but they are still within striking. Distance they've got
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 3: eighty two points twenty six regulation wins through seventy seven,
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 3: games The sharks eighty one points and twenty five regulation
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 3: wins on a game. Fewer and right, now The kings
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: are hanging on to the second wild card spot for.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 3: Now So Predators Ducks, Edmonton Oilers Utah, mammoth those two
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 3: games especially are going to help figure out what the
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: playoff picture in The west looks. Like and if you're
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 3: A Utah mammoth, fan and hopefully that's all of us
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 3: at this, point what you've got the rest of the
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 3: way in this regular season IS i think going to
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: be strongly indicative of how the postseason could potentially. Go
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 3: because you've Got edmonton that's a postseason, Team you've Got
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 3: nashville trying to be a postseason. Team you Got carolina postseason.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 3: Team those are your next three, Games, Calgary, Winnipeg Saint.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 3: Louis you finished the final two games at home against
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 3: The jets and The, blues and you've got some tough
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 3: tests between now and the end of the. Season but
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 3: The mammoth have been playing incredibly, well especially. Offensively we
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: talked about this With Tom callahan. Yesterday six, goals six,
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: goals seven goals in your last three outings for The Utah,
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: Mammoth Clayton. Keller it's so cliche when you, say, oh
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: you got to get me playing your best basketball before
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 3: you head Into. March mandis you got to be playing
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 3: your best basketball before THE nba playoffs. Start got to
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 3: be playing your best hockey when you get into The
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: Stanley cup. Playoffs, well especially if we're talking about your
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 3: team captain and a guy who this, year thankfully has
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 3: been still an excellent, teammate but hasn't been the driving
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 3: force of what The Utah mammoth have been able to
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 3: accomplish so, Far Clayton keller seems like maybe he's rounding
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 3: back into. Form and by the, WAY i say this
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 3: with full, allowance like give the guy whatever time he,
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 3: needs give him whatever grace he, needs give him whatever
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: credit he. Needs benefit of the doubt because he's absolutely
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: been through the. Ringer this season an emotional roller coaster
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 3: of a. Year he was part of that gold medal.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 3: Team he didn't get to play in the gold medal.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 3: Match he didn't get to play a ton in The.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 3: Olympics i'm sure that was on some level, disappointing even
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 3: though it was gratifying to be part of the. Experience,
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 3: obviously he lost his father surprisingly that was devastating for.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 3: Him so there's just been a lot going on For Clayton,
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 3: keller and if he's now rounding into the best version
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: of himself at the right, time that can be massive
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 3: for This mammoth. Squad they're already Getting they're getting really
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: good things out of Gun Through they've gotten really good
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 3: things since he came back out Of. Cooley Mackenzie wieger
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 3: has been a huge Addition Mammoth Playoff hockey is right
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 3: around the corner and positioning yourself for the most favorable first,
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 3: round WHICH i think for me is actually pretty heavily
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 3: dependent on the availability Of Leon. Dreysidle, Now edmonton seems
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: every REPORT i can, see they're optimistic that he's going
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 3: to be back before the. Playoffs he's going to be
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 3: back sooner than. Later whether they rest him again tonight
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 3: to make sure that he is back for the meaningful
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 3: stuff to be, determined because this is a hugely impactful
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 3: game potentially For, edmonton AND i don't know how what
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 3: their viewpoint is, on you, know the playoff, positioning whether
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 3: they'd rather have The mammoth because they haven't they haven't played.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: Well The mammoth have not played particularly well Against. Edmonton
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 3: they haven't been able to Beat. Edmonton. Yet Does edmonton
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 3: look at that and, say, YEAH i want that to
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 3: be our first round, matchup or do they say it
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: doesn't really matter for us because we're, seasoned we've been
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 3: through this. Before we've the last two, years we've been
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: all the way to The Stanley Cup final where The
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: Western conference. Champs for a, reason and it's not because
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 3: they've been dominant from wire to. Wire that's not how
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 3: they got. There last year they flipped a. Switch they
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 3: turned it on because they've got two of the best
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 3: players in the, World like two of the top ten
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 3: players in THE nhl Wear edmonton, sweaters and maybe the
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 3: top player in THE nhl currently where's An edmonton? Sweater
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: so he always he's. Consistent McDavid is consistent all the.
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 3: Time but there's another gear that he seems to be
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 3: able to kick into when it comes To Stanley cup,
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 3: playoffs and that's been hugely impactful for them these last
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 3: couple of. YEARS i truly have no idea whether or
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 3: Not edmonton is just, like, yeah we need, this we
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 3: need this win tonight Because I'M i don't want with
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 3: Dry sidle's health and being a, QUESTION i don't want
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 3: this particular. Matchup we'd rather have The mammoth than. SOMEBODY
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 3: i don't. KNOW i don't know The mammoth view or excuse,
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 3: ME i don't know The oilers view of this particular,
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 3: matchup BUT i DO i do know that The mammoth
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 3: want The ducks more than they want The, oilers.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 4: Which makes perfect, sense like The ducks don't have the
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 4: roster obviously that The oilers, have and they don't have
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 4: the playoff pedigree that The oilers HAVE hi, you which
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 4: you outline, Already IF i don't know either what the
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 4: oiler's mindset. Is If i'm, Them i'm not worried About
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 4: i'm not worried about any. Matchup it's almost like THE
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 4: afc playoffs this year in THE nfl HOW i cracked
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 4: the mic and, SAID i don't care If buffalo had
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 4: to go on the had to go on the. Road
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 4: if they were able to win that game Against, denver
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 4: they would they have had to go on the road
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 4: every game to make it.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 3: To the Super.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 4: Bowl if you're if you're The Buffalo, bills you have
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 4: to be, like who who's out there that that intimidates?
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 4: Us you know at that are in THE afc playoffs
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 4: at time now it didn't work out for, Them but
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 4: it's the same kind of thing For, edmonton except they're
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 4: they have all the more reason to be to feel
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 4: confident because they've actually made it through their, conference unlike
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 4: unlike The bills have in THE. Nfl SO i If i'm,
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 4: Them i'm, like we just got to make sure we
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 4: got we Got leon healthy and obviously McDavid. Healthy we
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 4: get better goaltending than we've.
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 3: Gotten the last couple of. YEARS a great story to.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 4: Hear Connor ingram has made it as their starter for
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 4: a number of games here down the. Stretch Former mammoth,
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 4: goalie it's like they're. Focused if they focus on that
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 4: and they're able to get those, things they got to
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 4: feel like we can beat anybody in The Western, conference
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 4: we can win The Stanley.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: Cup did you see the the teaser tweet that The
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 3: mammoth put out? YESTERDAY i did. Something mammoth resurfaces. Tomorrow
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 3: what an incredible play on. Words resurfaces because that's what
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 3: A zamboni. Does i'm gonna go to the game. Tonight
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 3: i'll get you. There you're gonna go to the game
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 3: tonight as.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 4: Well I'm that's WHY i was gonna jokingly interrupt your
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 4: spiel on how Great connor McDavid is and and and
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 4: and what why this game is important for The mammoth to,
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 4: say hold, on but the most important thing is what's
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 4: it like Watching connor McDavid in? Person BECAUSE i have
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 4: not had the chance to do. That, Well i'm really
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 4: excited to see. It we'll both be doing it tonight and.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 3: It would appear that a very special Mammoth zamboni is
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 3: making its debut toss. Up so you're getting a tusk
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 3: mug and it tusks Up. Zamboni they're really leaning into
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 3: this tusk thing the mugs right, now the tusk mug
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 3: can only be used for, beer you can only.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 4: Like but they're gonna have to change, that they're, well
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 4: so hold, on you can probably once you buy. It
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 4: it's yours once you buy, it so you can milking,
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 4: it but you.
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 3: Can only you. Can you can only purchase it with
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 3: beer in.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 4: It so if you're not a, drinker may you just
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 4: purchase it and dump it out or give it to
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 4: your friend to.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 3: Drink here here's. Why, okay let me explain this to.
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 3: You because it's an elaborate souvenir mug that they want
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 3: to charge twenty six dollars. For, oh that's how much it.
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 3: Costs you're not gonna charge twenty six dollars for a soda. Mug,
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 3: yeah you're not doing. THAT a beer is already a
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 3: beer is already like fourteen or sixteen bucks or, whatever,
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 3: right so the upsell on that is not as. Significant
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 3: they might charge ten for that kind of a suit
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 3: they charge less than that for. This for the regular souvenir,
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 3: cups they might charge up to ten for this kind
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 3: of souvenir cup if if you've if they let you
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 3: filled up with. Soda but, yeah you, can't can't, do
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 3: can't go all the way up to twenty six for.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 3: That my plan Is i'm just going to follow around
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 3: the person who has the souvenir tusk, mug who looks
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 3: like they've had too many, beers oh, yeah and just
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 3: just wait for them to set it. Down just follow them,
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 3: around follow them, around follow them, around and when they're just,
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 3: like oh, MAN i can't have, anymore then it's. Fine.
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 3: Yay so, YES i just admitted on air that my
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 3: plan is. Theft it's to steal some poor drunk. Persons just.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 3: Kidding i'm not gonna do. THAT i will end up
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 3: obtaining one of, these probably pouring out the beer and
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 3: or you know What i'm gonna. Do i'm gonna wait
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: until they sell it with a rootier float in, it because, eventually,
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 3: yeah the demand is going to be. There, right you
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 3: have the ice, cream far, better you have the sodi.
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 3: Pop you sell me one of these mammoth, mugs these
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: tusk mugs with a root beer floating. It, James i'm
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 3: paying you twenty.
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 4: Six, bucks why not why not just buy it tonight
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 4: and then to the person next to you be, like
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 4: you want a free? Beer you just got to give
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 4: me the. Cupback it's not a bad idea twenty six
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 4: bucks is that's a lot of. Money it better be
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 4: as awesome as it.
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 3: Sounds. Like we've done the the souvenir helmet nacho. Thing,
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 3: YEAH i haven't done that, yet the brisket nachos when
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 3: you go when you attend a game with my, wife
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 3: she does not have the, like OH i shouldn't buy that.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 4: Filter she doesn't have it like it looks cool. There
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 4: she'll just buy, it doesn't.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 3: Even, care doesn't even know how much it, costs just, like,
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 3: YEAH i need a helmet full of. Nachos they could
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 3: have been, like this is three hundred. Dollars she'd just been,
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 3: like give me the. Nachos it's it's a real hockey.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 3: HELMET i want. It, no she wouldn't have. Said she'd
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 3: just been, like, yep, okay, fine BECAUSE i want.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 1: That.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 3: Right, so if she were going to the game, tonight
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 3: it would be a tusk mug for.
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 4: Sure yeah is She oh, no she's not a she's
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 4: not a, drinker so she'd be dumping it out or
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 4: handing it to someone.
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 3: Else, yeah, Probably, Yeah, yeah that's the that's the check.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 3: Code Just. Craig craig on the text line, says just
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 3: drink the. Beer drink the. Beer, Okay, craig we. Don't
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 3: some people don't drink, beer and this is nos persons
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 3: on people who. Do if you drink the, BEER i
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 3: don't drink. Beer i'm not gonna drink. Beer so If,
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 3: craig you're you're telling me you don't want me to
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 3: give you the free. Beer, craig if you come to
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 3: the game tonight And i'm you see me walking with,
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 3: him just a foamy head dripping over the edge of
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 3: that that tusk, mug and you're, like oh, Hey i'll
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 3: drink that beer for, You i'm gonna say.
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 4: No you know, What, No, CRAIG i HAVE i have
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 4: the text app on my. Phone if You, craig this
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 4: is THE o of the game. Tonight text text the
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 4: text one eight seven seven three five three zero seven
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 4: hundred text us which portal you're closest, to and MAYBE
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 4: oc will will let you drink the, beer and when
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 4: he buys a souvenir cut.
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he'll maybe he'll meet up with, you or
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe i'll have my First spike. BEER i coach drink
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 3: it And i'm just like, Here, CRAIG i followed your.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 3: Advice that's. More that's more THE i. Do, yeah that's
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 3: a good. Point all, right got to take a quick one.
• 2:27:03
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• 2:27:06
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  Speaker 3: driver up, next he's here in studio with us high. Spence, Hello.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 10: Sean brisket nachos huh for the Mammoth, YEAH i haven't tried.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 3: Them they're. Good big fan of brisket nachos. Myself. Good
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 3: and actually the hockey helmet that they come in is.
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 3: Substantial it's not like a real regulation hockey. Helmet but
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 3: it's not one of these flimsy plastic things that's just
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 3: going to like break while you carry it. Home it's
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: like it's a good little. Souvenir take it home and
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 3: put it on the, mantle put on one of your
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 3: kids throw tennis ball at their.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 10: Head, well, SURE i GET i guess if that's don't
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 10: you have young? Girls, yeah, hell it's. Not, well you,
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 10: Know i'm not gonna tell you that a, parent you
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 10: got to toughen them. Up, Spence the world is hard on.
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 10: Girls the world is hard on all of. Us sean
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 10: hard or so on? Girls you think? So, yeah, yeah
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 10: you're probably. Right, ACTUALLY i don't. KNOW i think we
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 10: could debate.
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 3: That we probably. Shouldn't would you know we're not going.
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 10: To would you try a twenty six inch boomstick burrito
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 10: blue corn dog In?
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 3: Seattle, YES i love corn.
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 10: Dogs polar, pasta which is ice cream disguised as spaghetti
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 10: a Corse. Field, yeah we try. That let's See Tira massoux.
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 10: Helmets sounds. Lovely, yeah, okay but of course it's at
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 10: The New Yankee, stadium which is a, mall it's not a.
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 10: Stadium The Grand Slam witch a twenty inch chicken parmesan
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 10: And italian meatball.
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 3: Sandwich, yes that sounds. Lovely, yeah sounds.
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 10: Good chipped ham and Pignatas pittsburgh dope pockets filled with barbecue,
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 10: ham cheddar and. Pickles oh that sounds. Awesome, yeah that sounds.
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 10: Great is there any food you don't?
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 3: Like is? THERE i do not like green? Beans green? Beans,
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 3: YEAH i won't eat. Them what about like? Peas? YEAH
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 3: i like? Peas you?
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 3: So is it the texture of green? Beans it's childhood
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 3: trauma associated with green. Beans let's dig into, this, okay
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 3: GET i told the story many. Times my parents used
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 3: to make me sit and finish my green beans at the,
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 3: table AND i despise. THEM i would put creamy cucumber
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 3: dressing on, them WHICH i also can't eat, now, disgusting
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 3: and they would just make me sit there and gag
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 3: down my green. Beans AND i was an honest, child
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 3: so they would get up from the. Table, beck you
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 3: can't get up until you finishing green. Beans so another
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 3: twenty minutes of me just like just choking them, down
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 3: choking them down instead of scraping them into the garbage
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 3: can like any normal person. Would when's the last time
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 3: you tried green? Beans? So my little sister's best friend
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 3: is a remarkable. Chef she's. Awesome she's worked at a
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 3: bunch of the restaurants. Locally she's the head of cuisine
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 3: up a solitude. Resort now is just a master on anything, culinary,
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 3: Right and several years ago she was, like, hey come.
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 3: By she was working at a restaurant, downtown and she was,
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 3: like come, by sit at the, bar And i'll just
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 3: feed you what we've. Got we're trying to have some
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 3: new things on the. Menu AND i was, like, Great
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 3: SO i sit, down brings out the bone marrow, appetizer
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 3: WHICH i, love brings out some of these amazing like
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 3: egg roll, things and then brings out these green, beans
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 3: AND i it would be incredibly rude to just be,
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 3: Like i'm not eating. Those she's like giving me a
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 3: tasting menu basically at this, place and SO i choked
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 3: down a couple of. Them and that was probably eight
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 3: or ten years.
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 10: Ago, okay BECAUSE i HATE i hated tomatoes as a,
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 10: kid AND i didn't eat tomatoes forever because it was
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 10: in my mind that they were. Disgusting, yeah NOW i
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 10: find them. Lovely, YEAH i love a good to. Me
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 10: so the green, beans that's just not. Happened, yeah they'll
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 10: Never i'll never get along with. Them but every other
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 10: food under the.
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 3: SUN i, like, okay all, right what about a favorite?
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 10: Dish like it's your. Birthday kendall's like what do you, want?
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 10: Babe and you say?
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 3: Lasagna? Lasagna, YEAH i love. Lasagna, okay like, homemade, yeah good. Lasagna.
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah are you a chef at? All on your own? Right,
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 3: Yes i'm a good. Cook i've learned to love. IT
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 3: i really enjoy. COOKING i love. Burgers i'll make the,
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 3: delicious delightful smashed. Burger.
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 10: WHATEVER i got into it DURING. COVID i was never
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 10: really that into. It and then your home and you're
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 10: kind of, like should we Watch game Of thrones for
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 10: the seventieth? Time so so, look what you learn is
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 10: cooking is essentially just following directions if you have a good.
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 10: Recipe what was the STRANGEST covid habit you picked up
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 10: talking ABOUT.
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 3: COVID i don't know IF i picked up any weird
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 3: habits During were you working DURING? Covid, yeah but we
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 3: went from being on every single day ON pac twelve, radio,
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 3: yeah two three times a week with no sports to talk.
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 3: About it was a wild.
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 10: Thing it was very strange because, they, YEAH i figured
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 10: we were going to do something different with our day
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 10: to day show DURING. Covid they're, like, nope you got
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 10: four hours to Fill, well there's no nothing to talk. About, yeah,
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 10: yeah what are you supposed to? DO i REMEMBER i
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 10: tried this dopey.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 3: Thing it didn't.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 10: Work my idea, was let's do a show on what
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 10: we would have talked about if there was a game.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 3: TONIGHT i tried it, once. Hypothetical yeah it. Did it didn't.
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 3: Work one Time Spence checkets tried to use his imagination
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 3: and all of you just pooh pooed. It it wasn't.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 3: Good it was not. Good AND i use my imagination
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 3: every single. Day let's be very. Clear oh, OKAY i
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 3: don't know if you've. Noticed, yeah it, no it. It
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 3: it wasn't.
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 10: Good at least were you doing With? Jeff, yeah at
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 10: least you Had. Jeff, yeah we Had jeff and we
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 10: had incredible.
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 3: Producers and you, know unfortunately that was if you remember
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 3: a little history lesson if you take it, back THE
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 3: pac twelve was the first conference to be, like oh,
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 3: crap we're shutting it. Down for the first ones to
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 3: do it, right and then they were the first ones
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 3: to announce in the, summer we're not playing football, either
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 3: we're not doing. It and then everyone else was, like,
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 3: well we're going to do. It and then they panicked
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 3: because they had television conference or television networks that they
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 3: owed broadcast to and things like, that so they're, like, okay,
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 3: okay we're gonna play six. Games and it was. Scrambling
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 3: so we were doing radio through all that, stuff and
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 3: it was just it was just a, mess an absolute. Farce,
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 3: yeah what what it did do is.
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 10: Make you very grateful for when you have the things
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 10: to cover and talk about throughout the course of the.
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 3: Show and then things were brought.
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 10: BACK i think THE ufc was, first IF i, remember
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 10: Didn't Danea why do something on an island IF i remember, correctly,
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 10: well they did.
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 3: Fight, island which was In dubai or In Abu, dhabi
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 3: excuse me where you? Know it was effectively it's a.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 3: Resort they could. Quarantine weren't at a, resort and that's
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 3: what they. Did and you, know they just set a
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 3: model that some other people tried to. Follow THE nba
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 3: tried their bubble thing down In orlando and. Whatnot so,
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 3: yeah it was what an odd time that was in the.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 3: World it feels like both yesterday and twenty five years.
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 3: Ago the weirdest part about it for me was how
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 3: different it, Was Like utah was kind of middle of
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 3: the road with its. Restrictions Right, california you couldn't leave
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 3: your house Like, italy you literally couldn't walk your. DOG
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 3: i went my, Coach Jeremy, horn who you know you've.
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 3: Met jeremy got an offer to do like a fundraising
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 3: event where they were bringing all the old legends from
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 3: The Quad cities In, iowa back where it's like the
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 3: birthplace Of AMERICAN mma for those who were, uninitiated and
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 3: his old coach was going to do a charity boxing
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 3: match and they Wanted jeremy to do, it and they
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 3: wanted all the old all the old militant fighting systems
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 3: guys to come back and do. This And he's just, like,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 3: HEY i got offered a boxing. Match you want to
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 3: come corner me for this boxing? Match AND i was, like, yeah,
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 3: COOL i got family In. Iowa Maybe i'll find a
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 3: way to go see my grandpa. Whatever. Spence this was
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 3: when you were waiting in line At Trader joe's with
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 3: a mask on six. Apart we landed In. Iowa all
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 3: that was still the thing in the airport because federal.
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 3: Regulation as soon as you walked out of the, airport everyone's,
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 3: like take off your. Mask that crap doesn't work here In.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 3: Iowa In, IOWA i went to. It it was effectively
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 3: a boxing match at like a county fair. Spence there
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 3: were no people distancing wearing Mat this Was july of twenty.
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 3: Twenty this was the height of the. Pandemic my eighties.
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 3: Whatever he was eighty eight year old grandfather at the,
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 3: time was, Like, hey come visit me at the old folks.
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 3: Home i'm, Like i'm not going to come their, Grandpa
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 3: i'll stand out of your. Window he's, Like he's, like,
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 3: Dude i'm ninety years. Old if COVID's gonna get, me it's.
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 3: Fine all the old people there were like waving at, Me, hey, Welcome. Hello.
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 3: See it was. CRAZY i have a picture because you
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 3: just sparked a.
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  Speaker 10: MEMORY i have a picture because my grandfather was aging
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 10: and not well at that, time and he was in a.
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 10: Home AND i have a picture Of i've had super long.
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  Speaker 3: Hair it was really. Weird had a man.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 10: Bun SOMETIMES i let it. Down it was an interesting.
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 10: Look the guy that cuts my hair shut his place.
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 10: Down it was kind of, longer like whatever growed.
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  Speaker 3: OUT i have a.
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  Speaker 10: Picture i'm wearing a. BEANIE i have this long blonde
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 10: hair flowing out of the. Beanie i'm wearing a, mask
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 10: and i have my phone in front of, me And
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 10: i'm talking to my grandfather on the phone through the
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 10: window into his, home into his. Facility, Yeah i'll. Know
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 10: the image that continues to just stick in my brain
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 10: Is at the, time the plan Was bill was going
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 10: to do his show from his house AND i was
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 10: going to do my show from my apartment. Downtown so
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 10: we had the com rex set, up and then after
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 10: about two, WEEKS i got a phone call that was, Like,
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 10: hey we don't want you to, die But bill All
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 10: read can't, die so we need the Com.
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 3: Rex they didn't say, that but that was the.
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 10: Message it was LIKE i get, it, okay, fine SO
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 10: i agree AND i at the time my producer Was
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 10: brady and then he was A covid casualty didn't, die
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 10: just got.
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 3: Fired so that's when we went From brady To.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 10: Porter So porter at the time was producing the show
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 10: in the studio AND i was doing the show at.
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 3: Home i'm, like that's.
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 10: Stupid i'll just come in whatever and let's make Sure
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 10: bill All red lives because we get. It, Yeah and
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 10: SO i left my apartment downtown to come Into. BROADWAY
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 10: i didn't see one person and one. Car it was
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 10: movie Set truman.
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  Speaker 3: Show.
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 10: LIKE i didn't see anybody in my drive down to
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 10: the Student nobody was, out nothing was, open there were no,
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 10: cars there were no, people and uh, yeah rolled, in
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 10: gave the comrades so old bill and ended up doing
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 10: the shows from the studio And porter was like the
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 10: only PERSON i would. SEE i was married at the,
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 10: time SO i. Did my wife AND i were living.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 10: Together BUT i Saw porter and my wife for like
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 10: months and that was, all and didn't see anybody WHEN
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 10: i would commute home from. Work it is so weird
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 10: for that to like crystallize in your mind that that
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 10: was a. Thing, yeah it was a, strange strange. Time
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 10: maybe we'd ever go back, there indeed that we can agree.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 10: Upon stay tuned for the. Drive it'll be more than
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 10: just reminiscing about those dark days of.
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 3: Come we'll. See thanks for listening to The Shout O'condal.
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  Speaker 3: Show we'll do it again tomorrow ON espn seven hundred
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