Latest / Reality TV Cringe / 113: Sister Wives - One On One Part 4
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- 0:10Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe, where we serve you all the
- 0:14reality TV trash that is fit to eat. Oh yeah, I'm one of
- 0:19your hosts, Celia, and I'm here with my Red at Homegirl and my
- 0:23daughter in law Beatrice. How are you? Beat Hey? Everybody do with
- 0:28today? I'm great, I'm not at work, It's awesome. I woke
- 0:32up today to watch Sister Wives on Discovery Plus, which I pay a premium
- 0:37for, and I believe they have increased their prices as well and touched.
- 0:40To my surprise. In my horror, I found out that there was no
- 0:45Sister Wives Part four episode on Discovery Plus, but it was uploaded on Max.
- 0:52So I don't know why. I don't know if somebody fucking forgot to
- 0:55upload it to Discovery Plus. But that was bullshit. People are talking about
- 0:59it on Reddit because you texted me this morning asking me if it was on
- 1:02there and I hadn't even chicked. Am I getting the de Lulu? Yeah?
- 1:04Is it here? And I'm just not seeing it? Am I?
- 1:07I don't understand? Yeah? Absolute bullshit? Why do we even pay for
- 1:12Discovery Plus? Correct? And I'm curious though, Like at nine o'clock last
- 1:17night for those particularly feral raccoons, who are waiting with their remotes to watch
- 1:22it. Was it even on I don't think so, because I don't think
- 1:25it was either, Like this is BS. I don't understand how these streaming
- 1:29apps can't get their shit together. Why they keep fucking with Discovery Plus just
- 1:33cancel the app then probably, I think we're gonna have to and we're gonna
- 1:37have to go over to Max. But Max is not as good of an
- 1:38app. I know I don't like it. I don't like it either,
- 1:42but I don't like Discovery less either. I just just complain. Well,
- 1:46I finally found it on me Max and I was able to watch it too.
- 1:49The conclusion the part four one on one till Nothing, m hmmm,
- 1:55where we finally got to meet David, I know, I kind of like
- 1:57it, yeah, and have some interesting conversations. But before we get into
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- 3:00have a couple of people who have hauled in right before this final tell all
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- 3:17seconds to tell us whatever you want to tell us. Yes, and we'd
- 3:21love to hear from you. Yes, who called? We got two callers.
- 3:24Okay, so this one, let me make sure I got the right.
- 3:28One is from genre. I'm sorry if I'm not pronouncing it that right,
- 3:32but has a message for us about sister wise. I think, Okay,
- 3:38hey, my fellow raccoons, just another raccoon in the dumpster searching for
- 3:43some food, and it came across a huge piece of fish, and I
- 3:46thought i'd share it with my friends. Here's an angle that I'm I'm pretty
- 3:52sure most people haven't looked at. Here's a twist. Cody does not believe
- 3:59a thing that we'll and says nor. Nor does he not acknowledge what she's
- 4:04done. The problem is he's gotten a first row seat of how she treats
- 4:12men who choose not to deal with her anymore, who choose not to put
- 4:15up with her nonsense. Do we all remember how he sat back and watched
- 4:21how she demolished her ex husband, the lies she told, how she pegged
- 4:28him as an abuser. Do you recognize that she's starting to use similar language
- 4:32to describe their relationship. How she is you know she doesn't recognize who he
- 4:39is anymore? And all of this stuff. Cody has the fear of God
- 4:44in him right now because he realizes he treated three women who had his back
- 4:48no matter what, for someone who will sell him down the river for thirty
- 4:56pieces of silver. Okay, let me go ahead and eat my fish.
- 5:00See y'all later. I want some fish. What kind of fish? I'm
- 5:05from Hawaii? We like the mahi mahi, yeah, and the ono and
- 5:09the aku. But like, that's so interesting because one hundred percent Robin has
- 5:16shown him what she is willing to do when she leaves a man. Yeah.
- 5:20I think the question that I have is whether Cody actually believed everything Robin
- 5:27was saying about Preston, her ex husband. Yeah. I mean, he
- 5:31says he vetted her in his episode and he had to make sure that she
- 5:35didn't leave a good man. So maybe he does believe that. You know,
- 5:41according to Robin, he's this abusive piece of shit that she got away
- 5:45from, and that very may well be true. I don't know. We
- 5:48don't know much about Preston. We don't know anything about him. We know
- 5:51he has leukemia, right, but that's it. Like that's all we know,
- 5:55and we know that Robin hasn't told her kids about it. Well,
- 5:57I think some of Preston's family have spoken out on a couple of different platforms.
- 6:03For example, without a crystal ball, don't come at me, bro
- 6:06I'm just saying I think some information has been shared about the fact that Preston
- 6:13was not abusive, he was not a bad person, that he really felt
- 6:15over a barrel at the time that he signed his rights away to his kids,
- 6:19and in fact that it was Robin who was very problematic and who kept
- 6:24them in the poorhouse with all of her overspending, which apparently she has a
- 6:28long history of. So some of his family members are coming out and have
- 6:31come out and said these things, you know, but they're always going to
- 6:34be biased, of course, of course. But it is a very interesting
- 6:38take to say that Cody may be scared of Robin, or like how she
- 6:44will treat him after all of this stuff, or like if he denounces his
- 6:48loyalty to her and his love to her in any any kind of way,
- 6:51like if he said he loved Janelle or loved Christine or loved Mary, I
- 6:55think Robin would take that personally and it would affect their relationship negatively. So
- 7:00it's pretty interesting. I kind of like this take because it kind of sheds
- 7:03a new light on like the dynamic between Cody and Robin, that it's not
- 7:06like this perfect. It could be not this perfect relationship. Oh it's one
- 7:11hundred percent not perfect. I think Robin has way more control than anybody is
- 7:15letting on. And I just wonder if Cody knows that she's the neck that's
- 7:19turning his head, or if he thinks it's all his brilliant idea, because
- 7:21he is a narcissist and he probably thinks it's his idea. Probably. Yeah,
- 7:26Okay, second message, we got one more message. Pull that up
- 7:30here. It's from somebody named Meme, Emmy m E, but I don't
- 7:35know if it's Meme or Mimi. Maybe it's me Me, so Hi mem
- 7:41I just want you guys to know I love your show. At this rate,
- 7:46I'll be a fan for Live. But I wanted to bring up a
- 7:48situation about the stallion ring everybody's talking about. I forgot what episode it was,
- 7:57but it was that when Mary divorced Cody, he said something to the
- 8:03effect, we'll still be here. We're not going to go riding off into
- 8:07the sunset. And I haven't heard anybody make that connection with that stallion ring
- 8:13that replaced all their rings and the fact that he and Robin have basically stolen
- 8:22everybody's money. That's all I have. I'd like to hear what you have
- 8:26to say, like a symbol of their taking everything away or just running off
- 8:33into the sunset together. They're still meats because their soulmates. See. I
- 8:37think the horse represents freedom and independence and adventure. Yeah, when you kind
- 8:43of get into spirit animals, which I'm a little wooz so I know about
- 8:48that somewhat, but I don't know. It could be as vapid and as
- 8:52materialistic as he saw a nice expensive ring and he wanted it and Robin wanted
- 8:56it too, to go with her Rolex and his Rolex. But it would
- 9:00also symbolize the fact that they're on their own and they're on this adventure together.
- 9:03I mean, I could totally see that totally running free and wild with
- 9:07their love freaking wild. Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah, But that's
- 9:11an interesting, interesting take. What do you guys think out there? Don't
- 9:13think no, that it symbolizes them running off into the future together. Is
- 9:18anybody going to kick Cody off forse because that's what I want to see for
- 9:22loook them off? Thank you? All right? Let's get into Sister Wives
- 9:26season eighteen, episode eighteen, the one on one part for any major takeaway
- 9:31for you with this last installment of the Taell Nottings, Well, it was
- 9:37kind of heavy on the Christine and David stuff, which is fine. I
- 9:41guess it's fine, but like we could have saved a lot of that for
- 9:45the wedding specials that we're gonna get because I know those are just going to
- 9:48be all Christine and David. I would have liked more questions to be asked
- 9:52by Sukie. But I do kind of like David. Oh yeah, me
- 9:56too. I think he's pretty cool. He's a breath of fresh air compared
- 9:58to and I looked up his birthday because I wanted to know his zodiac.
- 10:03Yes, I didn't get to see his full birth chart or anything, so
- 10:05I don't know all of it. But he's born December twenty second, so
- 10:09he's a Capricorn. But that's a Sagittarius capricornus a cuspy. It's a cuspy.
- 10:15Yeah, So I thought that was kind of interesting because Cody's a Capricorn.
- 10:18Cody is a Capricorn. Wow, interesting? Do we know it?
- 10:22His moon and his rising I couldn't fire out. Okay, that's fine,
- 10:26Yeah, okay. I don't really know much about Capricorns. That's like the
- 10:28one zodiac sign. When somebody mentions it, I'm like, what I know?
- 10:33He did? What a Capricorn is? I don't even know what the
- 10:35symbol for their sign is. Oh my god? Really? Yeah, no,
- 10:37I know nothing about it. But that's interesting. And she's an aires.
- 10:41Yeah they does that go together? They can't mesh pretty well? Yeah,
- 10:46I mean Capricorns are Earth signs, like very diplomatic, very like stoic
- 10:50standard, Like my grandpa was a Capricorn, very stubborn. But my ex
- 10:54girlfriend was a Capricorn and she was a big old bitch. Oh my interesting.
- 11:00Yeah. Well, one of my takeaways is that I think it's going
- 11:05to take a really long time for Cody to get over his betrayal and his
- 11:09anger at Christine. Even in the preview for next week, when they're talking
- 11:13about Christine's upcoming nuptials, it's going to be in a couple of days,
- 11:16he's still trying to talk about an accusation that Christine made, and Robin's like,
- 11:22no, all we're going to say is I hope that they're very happy,
- 11:24Like he just seems really wounded by her decision to leave. And as
- 11:31much as he goes on and on and on about how he never loved her
- 11:35in the first place and he was never attracted to her, the fact of
- 11:37the matter is is he is feeling that lost. And I hope he gets
- 11:41some therapy. I know he fucking needs it. Dude with doctor Orna from
- 11:45a couple HBO. Yeah, but she's ridden off into the sunset with her
- 11:50soulmate. I just really feel like it bothers him. Oh, it totally
- 11:54bothers him. It crushes his ego because I really don't think he was expecting
- 11:58Christine to ever leave him ever. I think if Mary was the first to
- 12:01leave, he would have been fine, Like he would have been like,
- 12:05Okay, yeah, it's kind of run its course, go and live your
- 12:07life whatever. I've used your money long enough, go ahead and be free.
- 12:11And if Janelle and Christine had stayed and accepted that they could never be
- 12:16loved by a man ever, and they can never be loved by Cody the
- 12:20way that he loves Robin, he would have been fine. He'd have been
- 12:22like, cool, this is like a good life. I'm a good man,
- 12:24I'm living my godly purpose. It's all great, but when Christine left,
- 12:28he was just absolutely fucking shaby destroyed knife in the kidneys. And I
- 12:33mean, he's so dumb because he's saying in this episode, when she stops
- 12:37talking about me and stops trash talking me to our kids, then I'll know
- 12:43that she's actually in love with David. Well, let's turn that around on
- 12:46you. When are you gonna stop talking about Christine? And what does it
- 12:50actually mean that you're still going on and on and on about her? Does
- 12:54that mean you're still in love with her? Because that's what I'm inferring.
- 12:56It kind of feels that way because all he does, and he thinks that
- 13:01by her being honest about what their relationship was, which was that Cody was
- 13:05not attracted to her, Cody didn't love her. That's trash talking to him.
- 13:09And it's like, but you're literally admitting all of these things, my
- 13:11dude, you're literally saying it on TV. I was never in love with
- 13:13her. I was never attracted to her, and that was my fault.
- 13:16And she's a shit sister wife and all of the trash talking you're doing,
- 13:20I know. And then he can't make the fucking connection. It's so unbelievably
- 13:24frustrating because, like I keep saying the last couple episodes, he's so close
- 13:28yet so far from like actual accountability, taking actual accountability for what he's done.
- 13:33I think to take actual accountability requires that you sit in the fullness of
- 13:39what it is that your actions have wrought. Yes, And I think when
- 13:43you were talking about such a huge family, so many kids, so many
- 13:48emotional connections, to sit in the fullness of that pain is probably so overwhelming,
- 13:54and like it's gonna take therapy, it's gonna take analytics, it's going
- 13:58to take a lot for you to be able to do that. But until
- 14:01you do, this is who you're going to be is just reacting and blaming
- 14:05and shirking responsibility. Yeah, it's really and a terrible life getting perms,
- 14:11I know, and fillers and fillers. Why God, he's so concerned with
- 14:16how he looks. I mean, yeah, I've got to keep these absent
- 14:18because I'm competing with Ryan Reynolds and Jason Momoa or Gerard Butler. I'm like,
- 14:22okay, mister old man, how tall is this man? I think
- 14:26he's like five ten or yeah, I looked it up on uh Google,
- 14:31googed it and it says five eleven, And I'm calling mad bullshit on that.
- 14:35He strikes me as no more than five nine. Yeah, like wearing
- 14:39those little prince lips. So he's a little bit taller, but he just
- 14:41seems to Maybe it's his attitude and the way he conducts himself, but he
- 14:46seems like a small, miserable goblin of a man. Oh, totally.
- 14:50I can't believe he's five eleven. I know, I don't believe it.
- 14:54Everything you say is a lie. A right, let's get into this episode.
- 14:58Sorry, all right. We star with some of the OG wives saying,
- 15:01yes, Christine's so happy and she's never been loved like this before.
- 15:03I'm bored. Then we moved to the flashback at Salsaprava Yes, when,
- 15:09of course Cody is trying to talk about how terrible it was when I had
- 15:13COVID. I don't think you got it. I almost died. My temperature
- 15:18was nine in that point. Nah. I was thinking about going to the
- 15:22hospital, but I didn't because I didn't want to and I was just so
- 15:26sick. I could have gotten a vaccine. Uh, I could have done
- 15:28some preventative measures. But no, here I am having COVID and Christine's laughing
- 15:33at him. I mean I was laughing at him too, Like I was
- 15:37laughing at when this whole scene aired during this season, I'm like, this
- 15:39is great. He's such a fucking drama queen. He is so dramatic,
- 15:45and he's doing this to play on to the fact that this is why he
- 15:48couldn't be around his family, right because COVID was so dangerous and scary and
- 15:52he didn't want to be around it. Blah blah blah blah. That's why
- 15:54he's putting on this performance and not to negate the seriousness of COVID or anything
- 16:00like that. But we all know that Robin and Cody were not that's sick.
- 16:03Like they were sick, but they were fine. Yeah, I mean
- 16:08died. I rocked COVID twice. Yeah, I was terribly ill. Were
- 16:14but like, you're not supposed to go to the doctor or the hospital unless
- 16:18it is really, really, really bad. And I guess Robin did go
- 16:19to an er clinic like we have on every corner of every street throughout America,
- 16:26and they sent her home, and they sent her home. But like
- 16:27drama drama, drama. Yeah, he just he wants to be centered at
- 16:32all times. His feelings, his emotions, his perceptions need to be centered.
- 16:36And of course, during the flashback, we see Christine laughing at him,
- 16:40and he's watching the same flashback, and he comments to Suki that,
- 16:44you know, Christine takes great joy in his suffering and this was just evidence
- 16:48of that. And then you know what, Christine confirms it. Yeah,
- 16:52she does. She's like, yeah, I wanted to be one of a
- 16:55Disney princess. Yeah. She's like, I just kind of want to be
- 16:59myself, and that also means being a little bitchy. And I'm like,
- 17:02you know what, at least you own up to it, Like, at
- 17:03least she's not like putting on this air of like no I care. No,
- 17:07She's like, I don't give a fuck, right, yeah, And
- 17:11of course you're squirming because I'm gone, yeah, and I'm just gonna sit
- 17:14here living my best life and it's going to piss you off so much.
- 17:17And I love to see it. We all love to see Christine. Cody
- 17:21interestingly also says to Suki that she that he does not blame Christine for everything,
- 17:26and he blames himself more because he never loved her. Yeah, okay,
- 17:33okay, shut up, just stop it with that. You never loved
- 17:36her, but you had sixteen children with her. You never loved her,
- 17:40but you were with her for twenty five years, well out of obligation,
- 17:44like out of religious obligation. Okay, I think that's what it is.
- 17:47Like After this episode, I'm like, yeah, maybe you didn't love her,
- 17:49and that's fine to like admit it, but then she's allowed to quote
- 17:53talk shit about your guys' relationship and just be honest with her kids, who
- 17:57all saw it that you didn't love mom, you weren't attracted to her.
- 18:02Like when we get to the David and Christine stuff like that was really sad.
- 18:04Christine talking about her relationship with Cody and how he just didn't want to
- 18:07be affectionate with her, Like Cody's a piece of shit. And this is
- 18:11what I mean by he's so close yet so far, because he can sit
- 18:14there and say the sentence it's all my fault that my family is broken up
- 18:18because I married a woman I didn't love and then spin it around and make
- 18:22Christine to be the bad guy, Like what the fuck, dude, you're
- 18:26right there. Yeah, just admit it, like that's your fucking problem.
- 18:30You didn't love these women that you got married to out of religious obligation.
- 18:33You found your fucking wife, you found your soulmate with Robin for some reason,
- 18:37and you didn't want to let anybody go. No, he loved the
- 18:41first three wives very much. I think he loved Christine. I think he
- 18:45loved Mary. I think he loved Janelle. It wasn't until he met Robin
- 18:49and then a strong preference came forward that he then stopped being intimate with his
- 18:56wives. I don't know about Janelle. Sounds like again, they were still
- 18:57having a sexual relationship trip well into all of the seasons we've been watching.
- 19:03But I think he loved them, and it wasn't until Robin came along that
- 19:06he stopped. Why why would he stop because he preferred her? If we
- 19:11write she was break dancing, she was a diesel gene model. But I
- 19:15mean, based on how he talks about it, like he was weeping after
- 19:18he connected with her because he was just so overwhelmed by how much he felt
- 19:25for her. So maybe he never knew what love could be being married to
- 19:30those three women. But you could have to come a little harder to make
- 19:33me believe you didn't love these women. I absolutely think that he did.
- 19:37I mean, he probably loved them in some capacity. I just don't know
- 19:41like if he ever really could have been everything that they needed, because it
- 19:45sounded like from Christine in their relationship like he wasn't into her from the get
- 19:48go, So maybe there is some truth to him being like, yeah,
- 19:52I was not attracted to her from the very beginning, I was repulsed by
- 19:56her. Convenient lie right now to justify his awful behavior toward her, which
- 20:00is also borderline abusive, Well, oh yeah, but he's been saying he's
- 20:03not attracted to her since like earlier seasons, like when Robin came into the
- 20:08family. There's like a lost tell all that's going around on TikTok and stuff
- 20:12from like I think, I don't know, season eight or something like that.
- 20:18It's a tell all with some chick from CBS, and you can't find
- 20:22it on Discovery Plus or HBO Max or anything like that because they've kind of
- 20:26scrubbed it. But in the tell all, he's like talking about how he
- 20:29was repulsed from by Christine from the very beginning of their relationship, so he's
- 20:33been saying this for you. He was also talking about how he was he
- 20:36got the ick factor from Robin as well, because she was a divorce aying,
- 20:40yeah, so well, what is a line, what's true? That's
- 20:41true? Thing, I believe he left Christine. Moving on, now we
- 20:45get to the subject of Robin really wanting plural marriage. Of course, Christine
- 20:48continues to maintain that she doesn't want plural marriage, she really never has wanted
- 20:55plural marriage. And then they bop on over to Cody, who's like,
- 20:56well, Christine doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. She doesn't know
- 21:00who Robin is. In fact, she was a shit sister wife, keeps
- 21:06saying. And then he's like, which makes which means she'll probably be a
- 21:08good wife to David Woolly, And like, what do you what do you
- 21:11mean? What are you connecting here? What are the dots that you're trying
- 21:15to connect? So she was a shit sister wife, which means she'll be
- 21:18a great wife to David Woolly. And like, she was a shit sister
- 21:22wife because she didn't accept Robin or she didn't want you to be with Robin
- 21:26all the time, Like, I don't know what your rationale is for her
- 21:30being a shit sister wife. I think it's because he thinks that Christine hated
- 21:33Robin and blamed her. I think it's because Chris because Robin didn't like Christine.
- 21:40And I think there was a lot of manufactured drama between Christine and Robin
- 21:44on Robin's part, And so he's spending most of his time with Robin and
- 21:48he's hearing about her views of Christine and adopting them for himself. It makes
- 21:53her Also, what is it what kind of a narc? Is it compensating
- 21:56or enabling? Enabling? I don't know, yes, or some a nark
- 22:00to just have him think that it's his actual feelings for Christine. I don't
- 22:06think so. All right, then we get to Cody talking about whether he
- 22:11would try plural marriage again, and of course he's like, you know,
- 22:15I don't think I could, because then I would have to tell that woman
- 22:18that I love Robin. She's the woman that I love above all else,
- 22:22and it's never going to change. Crazy. So again, admitting that she's
- 22:26your favorite and that you loved her the most? Was it hard? Was
- 22:30that so hard to just admit? Right? But he still can't make that
- 22:33connection. I can't walking in future tens, and you can't see how that
- 22:36would apply past tense. Ye, how all of the other wives felt that,
- 22:40Yeah, and he can't validate any of their feelings because it's just because
- 22:42they didn't like Robin. Right. It's like, no, dude, you're
- 22:45right there. You favorited Robin. You keep saying that. Right. Suki
- 22:52asks Robin whether she can be happy with just Cody, and this is where
- 22:57we get this display of no tears and grabbing her own box of Kleenex,
- 23:03which I noticed, by the way, because I think normally Sukie would take
- 23:06the box and hand it to her, like, let me help you,
- 23:07sister, But no, Sukie's just sitting there, so she has to reach
- 23:11over get the kleenex, dab at her eyes, which are waterless, truly
- 23:15waterless. And ultimately she feels like she can't be okay with just her and
- 23:22Cody because it's disrespectful to her commitment, disrespectful to the kids, and ultimately
- 23:27disrespectful to the other wives. How did we feel about that? I'm so
- 23:33conflicted because I'm like, why do you need the other wives to approve of
- 23:37you being happy with Cody? Like, why do you need them to tell
- 23:41you that you never needed it before when they were super unhappy with things exactly.
- 23:45And I'm like, part of me is also like, yeah, it
- 23:48is kind of disrespectful to the rest of the wives and the kids because you
- 23:52are a homewrecker and you stole their man, their dad and their money and
- 23:56their money. And she I think this is the part where she was like,
- 24:00I don't know how it's going to work, like with just Cody and
- 24:03I And I was thinking, what do you mean financially, I don't know
- 24:07how it's gonna work. It's been physically just you too for years and you
- 24:12guys aren't working. You're not working, You're not doing and she is not
- 24:15gonna be working anytime in the future either. A secret. No, he's
- 24:19not doing shit. Like some of the articles online about Cody and Robin refer
- 24:23to him as a businessman, I'm like, what are you talking about,
- 24:26will Is He is not a businessman. What business does this man have the
- 24:30business of stealing money from women? That's his business. Don't you remember Fundamental
- 24:33Fitness, their little gin that they were going to make, which they never
- 24:37opened. I also remember how they were going to be real estate agents and
- 24:41or brokers that never happened either business. Well, what did you think about
- 24:45all of this ship with Robert, Like what's her end game with all of
- 24:48this? Like what why do you think she's like a victim? That's it
- 24:52to look like she wants to be aligned with the other wives and she doesn't
- 24:57want to disrespect them with taking any responsibility that she has already disrespected them.
- 25:04She's already stolen time from these women and experiences between the kids and their father.
- 25:10She's already done this. But for her to say it like, oh,
- 25:14I don't want to disrespect them now, hopefully we'll have some sympathy for
- 25:17her because she must really care about them. No, she doesn't. And
- 25:19Suki even says, well, they want you to be happy though. They
- 25:22all want you and Cody to go forward and be happy and live your joyful
- 25:26life. And this is where Robin's like, well until they tell me off
- 25:30camera, I can't believe it, which just kind of proves the whole idea
- 25:36that she wanted Gabe and Garrison to come up to her and apologize for everything
- 25:41in the family, like her saying oh, I never wanted that. No,
- 25:45you are that type of person obviously, because you want three grown women
- 25:48who have left their husband because he only wants to be with you to then
- 25:52come back to you right and say, hey, it's totally okay that you
- 25:56broke up her entire family and that you stole her away and made us feel
- 26:00like fat pieces of shit because we were married to him and he wasn't attracted
- 26:04to us. Stretched happy, Yeah, like she wants that. She wants
- 26:10them to validate it and make her feel like she wasn't at fault at all.
- 26:12Right, Well, and this is all just a big performance, and
- 26:17these ogs are not going to be coming back to bend the knee and make
- 26:21you feel better about the shit that you did to this family. If anybody
- 26:25should be making somebody else feel better, Robin and Cody, it's you two.
- 26:29Yep. But you can't and you won't. No. Next we meet
- 26:32David. Yeah, he's out on the couch. It's next to Christine,
- 26:36and we kind of learn some of his backstory, part of which is that
- 26:40he was married to a woman for twenty years and that she passed away.
- 26:45I think eleven years ago or maybe twelve years by now, she passed away,
- 26:51and I think she unlived herself. Really, I think she unlive devastating.
- 26:56I think that you guys could correct me if I'm wrong. I think
- 26:59shelved herself. So after this happened, he did try dating. He dated
- 27:06some women, but then he's like, yeah, I'm not for this life,
- 27:08and so he stopped until Christine. Yeah. So I guess he saw
- 27:12her on some app and he was gonna swipe left, which what is left
- 27:18mean? Oh no, it's left. So he was gonna say no,
- 27:22but then he didn't. He swiped right, and then he says she stalked
- 27:26him. Yeah, she was persistent, yeah, which is really sweet.
- 27:30And then they went out on a first date. Well he recognized her though,
- 27:33Yeah he did. She thought he was going to get catfished or no,
- 27:36his kids thought he was getting cats right, Chris right, which is
- 27:40pretty cool. And he's got a million kids and a million grandkids, children
- 27:45and grandkids which is awesome and really values his family, really values his children.
- 27:51I'm skipping ahead a little, but he does say that when he was
- 27:53dating, like, his priority was his kids. And he was saying this
- 27:56in the context of whether he has empathy for and pretty much the answers no.
- 28:02He's like, because when I was dating, like if somebody tried to
- 28:03tell me what I needed to do with my own kids or my time around
- 28:07my kids, it would be like a hard pass. Absolutely not. So
- 28:11he doesn't really understand why Cody has done all of this to all of his
- 28:15children, which I thought was very interesting, very based. So yeah,
- 28:18but he did recognize her. And I had been reading in some of the
- 28:21comments that were getting on YouTube that he actually has two sisters who are in
- 28:26polygamist marriages. Oh, I'm wondering if they're au B. Guys. I
- 28:30may have been forgetting some of the details on this, but they might be
- 28:33AUB. So they knew who Christine was. Oh wow, So he also
- 28:38has some familiarity with the whole system. Yeah, which makes it probably more
- 28:44comfortable for her probably. And I was actually talking to Ethel about this,
- 28:47and she was saying, I think David's actually still Mormon. She's like,
- 28:51he's either still Mormon or like four more Mormon or whatever, because she was
- 28:55laughing about this tenet in Mormonism where like when you're spiritually married, if like
- 29:00spouse dies or whatever, there's no way for you to really like break up
- 29:03that spiritual marriage. So he's still technically spiritually married. Okay, so she
- 29:06was laughing about it because Christine's gonna end up being a polygamist wife and Mormon
- 29:11and Mormon. Heaven. That's interesting that he would be a practicing Mormon or
- 29:17still Mormon, just because you see them drinking a lot, Like we're going
- 29:19to see that at the receptions. Christine's given him a lap dance. I
- 29:23think people are parting, which I think is great. I mean, I
- 29:26love that for them, But it's interesting. I found him to be.
- 29:30I found him to be a nice person. Yeah, very soft spoken.
- 29:34Yeah, not up to like start some drama or get confrontational. I think
- 29:38it would be hard to get him confrontational or in a conflict with Cody,
- 29:42but I do think he would step to it if necessary, totally. And
- 29:48I kind of liked how he was being kind of careful and thoughtful with his
- 29:51words because he doesn't want to have any drama, like especially for Christine's sake.
- 29:55He's like, they're just being very careful with what they're saying, but
- 30:00it's still pissing Cody off. Oh yeah, which is just so great,
- 30:03right. I just love that Cody's just getting fucking triggered by everything that they
- 30:06say, and still getting reactive like, well, I'm a good guy though,
- 30:10right, I don't want you to talk shit. I'm a good guy.
- 30:11Okay, Okay, nobody's saying anything. Well, but you're showing us
- 30:15who you are, and so that's what's going on. It's really not what
- 30:18Christina is saying. And actually, in the next scene, we do the
- 30:21flashback of Christine sitting at the table with her kids talking about her dating journey,
- 30:26and of course this is where Tony's like, well you really want to
- 30:29sample all of the ice cream flavors, put yourself out there, get some
- 30:33experiences. Gross. But in this particular scene, in this particular scene,
- 30:37she's talking about how she knew Cody was not attracted to her. We see
- 30:41Michelty saying I don't understand that you are gorgeous and just talking about being insecure
- 30:47and having self esteem issues because of this constant rejection from Cody. And then
- 30:52we see Cody watching that flashback as well. Yeah, so after the flashback
- 31:00we go to Christine or Cody. First, let's start with Christine. Christine
- 31:03essentially says, well, I think it's important that I demonstrate to my children,
- 31:08like how to get out of a bad situation and create new things in
- 31:12your life, like you don't have to stay in a miserable, fucking marriage.
- 31:18And then we get to Cody. Mm hmm. I can't remember what
- 31:21he said because I was so fucking blacked out mad because he's just like not
- 31:26acknowledging how Christine really felt like in their marriage. Like he's saying all of
- 31:30this shit on Dvie and he's been saying it for years that he was repulsed
- 31:33by her and not attracted to her at all, and then still again is
- 31:37like turning it around on Christine and he's like, well, but she's talking
- 31:40shit to me to my kids, and mc kelty shouldn't be saying all these
- 31:44things. She's That's what he was saying, right, she's taking sides to
- 31:47for Christine in this whole situation because Christine's talking bad about me, and it's
- 31:51like she's just being honest about what your guys' relationship was, yeah, which
- 31:55is that you were a piece of shit and not attracted her at all.
- 31:57You probably fucked her out of obligation, and that's what I think. I'm
- 32:00just like, I don't know how much he really loved her, if he
- 32:02wasn't attracted to her, and if he made her feel like this through the
- 32:06entirety of their marriage, I'm just like, how which can Christine keeps saying
- 32:12that it was her own kids that came up to her and brought up like
- 32:15you shouldn't be treated like this in this relationship, like Mom, you could
- 32:17do better. You should maybe consider getting a divorce, you know, which
- 32:22I believe because they have two eyes and they can see and maybe they even
- 32:24watch the show and they can hear what their father is saying. Cody's observation
- 32:29is like, this is an example of kind of the insidious stuff that Christine
- 32:34does. It's really subtle, it's low key, but she's got all the
- 32:37kids there and she's spinning me in a bad light, dude, And I
- 32:43could sort of see and we've seen it this season, like when they had
- 32:47Gabe and Garrison over. I forget was it easter or something, And you
- 32:52know, she starts to orchestrate conversations about how they're doing and you know,
- 32:58let's talk about this, but she tries to do it in a way where
- 33:00like she's hiding her hand mm hmm, and she's just inspiring them to have
- 33:06conversations. I do feel like that's a bit manipulative. I don't know in
- 33:09this particular flashback whether I think she was being manipulative. Yeah, but I
- 33:15mean for a narcissist, I can see how any criticism whatsoever would be harmful
- 33:21totally. And I mean we can make the argument too whether or not it's
- 33:23appropriate for Christine to even be having these kinds of conversations with her children.
- 33:28I mean, that's her, that's their dad, right, It's like it's
- 33:30they don't need to be involved in the intimacies of your guys's marriage or like
- 33:34what happened, what didn't happen, how you felt about it, Like you
- 33:37can just be like, look, we were not meant for each other,
- 33:39Like he did not treat me well. He is probably a good husband to
- 33:44Robin. It's your guys' dad. You guys have the relationship with him.
- 33:46It's whatever, Like I'm gonna go bang my man over here and I'll be
- 33:50fine, right, Like so we can make that argument, and I do
- 33:52kind of agree. There's there are those moments with Christine that it's like,
- 33:57Okay, should you really be talking to your kids about that? Probably not
- 34:00was truly at the table that time. I don't know if she was.
- 34:02I feel like Truly was at the table, sitting next to Isabelle see,
- 34:07and that's not okay. And that's the thing, and I don't remember.
- 34:09I don't recollect one hundred percent, so please do correct me if I'm wrong,
- 34:14But I think she was sitting there at least for a period of time.
- 34:16And I'm like, oh, I really wouldn't be saying all of that
- 34:20in front of Truly. I mean, the other kids are adults, and
- 34:23maybe it's a little better, but I can kind of see Cody's point.
- 34:27But at the same time, Cody, you can't rail invective at your wives
- 34:32on television. These are the mothers of your children. You can't say any
- 34:37kind of shit about them and then expect the kids and the wives to not
- 34:43say anything. Right, But I was supposed to pretend you didn't say all
- 34:45that shit. Yeah, in season X, Y, and Z, right,
- 34:47It'd be one thing if you were objectively not that bad of a person.
- 34:52We could see like, oh, Christine talking bad about you to make
- 34:54you look bad, but you're terrible, Like you've been saying this bullshit for
- 34:59like the last several years on TV. In front of everybody, like your
- 35:02kids can see this shit, right, your kids can go back and watch
- 35:07the footage and there's there was nothing subtle about it. No, you've been
- 35:09an asshole and an abusive person about it. And you want to get mad
- 35:14because Michelty's telling Christine she's gorgeous and they're all encouraging her to put herself out
- 35:19there and start a new life, like, come on, demented, he's
- 35:22a demented person. After that, we talk about Christine having been worried about
- 35:29like kissing because Cody was the only boy man boy she ever she ever kissed.
- 35:37And then we have David saying she's great. She's a great kisser.
- 35:39I love her bubbliness, I love her quirkiness, and she also when we
- 35:46get to the Machiavellian part right where Cody still maintains that Christine is orchestrating a
- 35:52lot of this drama and this flashback may or may not be something that he
- 35:55would point to to prove that, David counters that with she's the le conniving
- 36:00person that I know, I mean, clueless maybe, yeah, well dumb
- 36:04maybe, but she's not Machiavelli and she's not out here trying to manipulate situations.
- 36:08In fact, he called her drama free. I believe that honestly.
- 36:13Yeah, really, I think aries people like fire signed people are just kind
- 36:16of like direct, They're gonna tell you how they feel, They're gonna feel
- 36:21really big, like it's just one of those things. Doesn't necessarily mean they're
- 36:24dramalicious. I don't think she's drama licious. I think she is performative,
- 36:30like kind of dramatic and how she expresses her feelings. But I don't think
- 36:32that that's inherently like something she uses in a toxic way, right. I
- 36:38don't think she's manipulating her kids against their dad. I think their kids have
- 36:43eyes and brains. I think she could be a little bit Cody sucks,
- 36:45though, but yeah, Cody objectively sucks. So I'm just like, I
- 36:49think both things can be true at the same time. I don't think I
- 36:52don't think Christine is poisonous about it, but I do think she's got her
- 36:55hands in the pot in that regard. Yeah, but in this conversation,
- 37:00that's where Cody says something whack like, yeah, you know, I can
- 37:02just envision David and I having a conversation in like ten years where he just
- 37:07leans over to me and he's like this is nuts, isn't it? And
- 37:10I would tell him, look, man, you can't talk about your wife
- 37:14this way, because you know guys bros. Bros love to talk up and
- 37:16complain like you do, Cody, Like you complain about all your wives and
- 37:21your ex wives to your bros. But I'm just like, in what fan
- 37:23to see land are you currently existing? Where're gonna have some conversation with a
- 37:29man who truly loves the woman you tossed away and start talking shit about Christine?
- 37:34You dumb? I call him it just nothing. I'm just like it.
- 37:39Don't want to be too mean, but like, how do you think
- 37:42Like he sees himself as being the center of attention for David Woolley in the
- 37:47future, when David comes to him the great priest of the family, Cody
- 37:52Brown to talk about how shitty it is to be married to Christine. Yeah,
- 37:57guy, Like what the fuck? Like what a piece of fucking shit,
- 38:00dude. And this is why I'm like, you don't fucking love her
- 38:01if you're talking about all of this shit like or maybe he does. Maybe
- 38:05he's just so fucking childish. I think he's so jealous. He's just so
- 38:08pissed off that she's get in your backplone out. Yeah. I just think
- 38:12he's jealous about all of it, about the money, about how she moved
- 38:15on so quickly, how she found a seemingly quality person. I think he
- 38:21loves her. I think he is really pissed off about the loss of control
- 38:25over her. And yeah, but he still sees himself as the center of
- 38:30her situation, even ten years from now in a fictional universe and some Mormon
- 38:35celestial reality, which is just so crazy. And this just speaks to how
- 38:37you said earlier about like how he treated how Cody treated Christine, and how
- 38:42it was like borderline abusive. This is abusive verbiage to be like, oh,
- 38:46Christine's such a piece of shit, such a terrible, awful person that
- 38:50her new husband, Yeah, he might love her now, but in ten
- 38:52years him and I are gonna grab a beer and we'll talk shit about her
- 38:55because she's so terrible, and I'll be like, yeah, you're right,
- 39:00right, hah. I know what a piece of garbage dude, this man
- 39:02is. I would like one of my many ex husbands to try and call
- 39:07up my husband now and talk mad shit about me and see how well that
- 39:10goes for them, much less to be in his personal presence and try to
- 39:14do that. No, absolutely not, Cody. That's something you would do.
- 39:17You would talk shit about your wives, because you already do to your
- 39:21other wives and to your bros. But that's not something most men of integrity
- 39:24would actually do do. But you wouldn't know that. Yeah, not at
- 39:28all. Okay, now we get to the portion of the episode where Cody
- 39:35starts bloviating onward about for David's sake, Christine has to paint Cody out as
- 39:44a bad person and continuously trash Cody. Otherwise that would mean David would be
- 39:50committing himself to a woman who left a good man, honey, Like,
- 39:54what is your fucking logic, my guynistic piece of shit, a piece of
- 39:59garbage. You're set dementia? Like, what does it mean when you have
- 40:04a personality disorder where you cannot see yourself clearly as everybody else can see what's
- 40:08going on with you? Are you living in a mirrored parallel universe where only
- 40:12you exist? I don't understand? And does Robin? Is she this delusional
- 40:16too? To like be able to stoke your fire like this and and praise
- 40:21you in this way, like are you both this fucking delusional? Both of
- 40:24them because Robin, I think, believes him when he says this. I
- 40:29think Cody's delusional and Robin's the one orchestrating it making him believe it. Honestly,
- 40:34That's what I wow, dude, I just couldn't believe that he even
- 40:36said shit like that, and then said, oh, I had to vet
- 40:38Robin extensively to make sure she didn't leave a good man. So if she
- 40:42left a good man, would you not have married her? Because I don't
- 40:45believe that you were driving down every weekend to go fuck your brains out right
- 40:49while you were still married to everybody, I think he would have married.
- 40:52I think this is just another performance or performative statement to make himself look like
- 40:57he has dignity, but he does not. Yes, he does bring up
- 41:00how he had to vet Robin hard to make sure she was worthy to be
- 41:05integrated into his family, which he was barely supporting as it is, and
- 41:08definitely not being fair and good to his wives at the time. So Robin
- 41:13really wanted to be a part of that family, but he had to make
- 41:15sure. I guess that she was actually leaving a bad man. Okay,
- 41:20so you believed her perspective on everything, and then that's why you adopted her
- 41:23kids. And I don't know, but can't. Sorry, I know I'm
- 41:28crazy, but can't conceive of a world where maybe Christine was leaving a bad
- 41:31man, and maybe you were a bad man to Christine, and maybe you
- 41:35were a really bad man to marry, maybe you were a bad person to
- 41:38Janelle. It can't even begin to consider how that might be possible the way
- 41:43they see it, because he can't consider that of himself because he's so fucking
- 41:46deluded. Well, because he suffered in the marriage with Christine for all of
- 41:51these years. I suffered, knife and the kidneys. This betrayal that you
- 41:54left me because I wasted my life with you and I suffered, was said,
- 42:00knife and the kidneys. I wasted my life with you. How dare
- 42:05you leave me? Why couldn't you've just stuck it out to the end and
- 42:07we could have been miserable together? Like that's his fucking logic. Yeah,
- 42:12I don't get it, dude. I don't either. I think he's crazy,
- 42:15is But what was really interesting in this particular section is he's going off
- 42:21in this fucking conspiracy theory, Like, yeah, she's got to paint me
- 42:23in a certain way. Otherwise, why would David ever want her? And
- 42:27Sukei's like, honestly, they don't think about you like that. Like I'm
- 42:30all, David seems really gracious. He seems to understand that, like she's
- 42:35a divorced woman. He's meeting her where she is right now in her life's
- 42:37journey. Doesn't seem to have any toxic fucking feelings for you. He doesn't
- 42:42need to spin this fucking poisonous yarn in order to exist. Yeah, like
- 42:45you do. Cody heads up well, and even in the Salsa Brava flashback
- 42:50when it shows Christine's talking head to Cody of her being like, I don't
- 42:54think he realizes I don't think about him at all, Like I literally do
- 42:58not care. He thinks that I think about him all the time. Could
- 43:00you see his face? Yeah, dude, he was like affected by that.
- 43:04He kind of took a little bit of a breath and closed his eyes
- 43:07a little bit. That pissed him off. But that's the truth, Cody,
- 43:10Like nobody cares, even Mary. Mary's like, I don't have any
- 43:14concern for your well being, like, I hope you're happy, but like
- 43:17deuces right, So what better revenge is there? When all you do twenty
- 43:22four to seven night and day is think upon and ruminate upon this person who
- 43:29you think betrayed you, that's all you can do. Is fueling all of
- 43:31your anger. It's causing you to implode all of your other relationships, only
- 43:36to learn that she don't think about you at all. In fact, I
- 43:39wish you well, I hope you're happy. Bye, Oh my god.
- 43:42Best revenge ever is to live? Oh good? Well? Yes, So
- 43:46David's impression of Cody again. He says he's emotional, he wears his heart
- 43:52on his sleeve. Is there a heart in there? He wears his vitriol
- 43:54and his sleeve. He's expressive, meaning he fucking won't shut up about all
- 43:59of his narc injuries. And he basically he does a whole lot. Cody
- 44:02Brown does a whole lot. And he doesn't really have empathy for Cody because
- 44:07in his world, my kids come first. Yeah, and so if I
- 44:12had a fourth wife enter the family, He's not saying all this, I
- 44:15am just extrapolating, But if I had a fourth wife come into the family,
- 44:19and she wanted all of my time to the detriment of all of my
- 44:22beloved children. I'd be like, absolutely not, there's no way you're going
- 44:24to get me to do that. So I don't have compassion for Cody because
- 44:29I don't understand how a person could do this. Yes, And I think
- 44:31he also says, like, I don't understand Cody and how he dealt with
- 44:36Christine or treated Christine, because to me, she's the whole package. She
- 44:38got it all, she got that bang and booty, she's got a beautiful
- 44:42smile. I think she's great. She's to me, she communicates with me.
- 44:45She's like in my previous marriage, we didn't have a lot of communication.
- 44:49Yes, So I love her viey vibe, I love her energy,
- 44:55bo and I just can't understand. And I think he also says this about
- 45:00Christine, like when I came into Christine's life, like she just wanted all
- 45:05of this intimacy, like the touching and the kissing and all this stuff,
- 45:07and I could tell she wasn't getting that, like David says that. And
- 45:12I've felt so hard for Christine because how hard would it be to be in
- 45:16a marriage for twenty seven years with someone who doesn't want to just go out
- 45:21on a date and make out with you, Like she said, it's like
- 45:22I just wanted to go out and make out with Cody, and Cody's like,
- 45:25no, it's not. Yeah, that's fucking fucked up. And then
- 45:29Cody being like, well, she's just pitting me as a bad guy.
- 45:31Well, but if you isn't the truth though, I mean, if you
- 45:35couldn't kiss her, if you didn't want to fuck her unless you were making
- 45:37a baby, and then you could just not deal with her for nine months,
- 45:39Like that's the kind of person I think Cody was in their marriage.
- 45:44And I just feel really bad for Christine because she dealt with that for way
- 45:46too long. And I feel really happy for her now because she has a
- 45:50man who appreciates her exactly as she is. In fact, all those little
- 45:52things that used to bother the fuck out of Cody and or Robin probably really
- 45:57Robin. Yeah, David loves them. Yes, makes his life happy.
- 46:00He's so happy. He's such a nice guy. He seems like a nice
- 46:02person. And so then we get to the proposal. Yeah, and we
- 46:07learn that he and some friends to Christine out somewhere in Moab, which is
- 46:12in Utah. And yes, he went up to a cliff and I guess
- 46:15he I don't know if he got down on one knee as he told me
- 46:19that, oh okay, goodness, got down on one knee and he said
- 46:22something like, this is my favorite place in the world, and you are
- 46:25my favorite person in the world, Christine, will you marry me? His
- 46:29friend was filming. Christine was like, oh my yes, yes a million
- 46:34times. Yes, such a romantic she's a romantic person. Yes, so
- 46:38it sounds like it was beautiful for her. Yes. And as much as
- 46:42I've been cringing the last couple of episodes with Christine and how performative, it
- 46:45is a little bit that she's talking about her first love and everything this episode.
- 46:50I'm like, Okay, I'm happy for you. Yes, you're a
- 46:52little much and that's okay. It's okay to be a little much, but
- 46:55you're not too much for David and he loves you, and I think that's
- 46:59great. And I hope you guys are having mad sex. Yes, and
- 47:04get it in beat the box. Then Suki asks, how will this wedding
- 47:10be different for Christine and for me? It really feels like this is the
- 47:15point of like deep hurt for her because like, was it her mother who
- 47:19threw together this terrible looking wedding dress from when she married? It was a
- 47:22terrible looking wedding dress that she basically wore attention to her wedding, you know.
- 47:27And again they didn't have a honeymoon like Robin did. I think they
- 47:30went on a road trip to Wyoming or something. And it was a really
- 47:32fast sort of a situation. And so for this wedding, she is going
- 47:38to walk down an aisle. She is going to have both of her moms
- 47:43there. Her father hopefully will be able to walk her down the aisle,
- 47:46and if not, then her son will, which is Peyden. Which makes
- 47:51me wonder did the father walk her down the aisle? Do we know?
- 47:53I don't know. I guess we'll see in the well. I wonder if
- 47:57it was Peyden who ultimately did it. Which is why maybe Gwen Christine's child
- 48:02didn't go because of the beef between Payt and what. We've talked about this
- 48:07before. We don't have to go over it again. But maybe that's one
- 48:08of the reasons why. She also says that she invited Cody's siblings. Yeah,
- 48:15and also Cody's mother, because she's been knowing these people for thirty years
- 48:20and she loved them. They were close, and I wonder like who went
- 48:22and who didn't? I know, I hope we get to see that dude.
- 48:28That would be so crazy. Yeah. Do you think he would have
- 48:30been so pissed? Yeah? Yeah, I think so. It would have
- 48:34been like, not maybe as bad as Janelle being Christine's friend, but it's
- 48:38along the same vein as that. Oh, he would be super upset.
- 48:43God. Then Suki asks, well, what about Mary? I know,
- 48:46and she says, I don't think I'm gonna invite her. I don't think
- 48:50she'll be invited. My gut is telling me no. Why do you think
- 48:52that is? Maybe because there's underlying tension with them, Because when she announced
- 48:58to the family that she was going to be leaving, Mary sat there with
- 49:01a stone ass face in full and high judgment of Christine. She left with
- 49:06Cody and Robin. She was being a supreme bitch about it. Yeah,
- 49:09she was super judgy, and that is why she's not going to be invited
- 49:14to the wedding. And you know what, Mary can dig it. She's
- 49:15like, look, I do not expect an invitation but at the same time,
- 49:20I wouldn't want to come if there was anything awkward between us, if
- 49:23there would be some kind of conflict, Like I don't want to do that
- 49:25on her wedding day. I want her to be happy. I want her
- 49:29to have a beautiful day. So I'm like, Okay, that's very enlightened
- 49:31and mature. Mary. I agree. I liked her response to that,
- 49:35like she wasn't super but hurt about it. And then Christine talks about how
- 49:37she invited Leon and Audrey, which I thought was great, and they ended
- 49:40up coming and they wore the colors yes, which are the other cute,
- 49:45So I think that's good. And yeah, maybe Mary and Christine are talking
- 49:50nowadays, like maybe they're mending things because Mary's finally left, and maybe she's
- 49:53like, hey, you were right, bitch. I don't think Michelty would
- 49:58let Christine do that. I think christ Yeah, I think Michelte is holding
- 50:01a big grudge against Mary, and I don't think she would be okay with
- 50:06Christine talking to her, which is a little wild to me. Like daughter,
- 50:10I guess making everybody else have relationships based on how she feels about My
- 50:15boundary needs to extend to you so that you do what I want you to
- 50:19do. That's not how boundaries work. But we end this episode was kind
- 50:22of the dumbest slash weirdest question of all which is everybody's celebrity crushes. And
- 50:30we learn that Janelle, my Torrian sister, has a crush on Gerard Butler
- 50:35specifically Leonidas. I'm just gonna guess it's gotta be same though, and Jason
- 50:40Momoa specifically called drobo those Jason Momoa with the mamba and from oh my God,
- 50:47Game of Thrones, Yes, much so handsome. So I align with
- 50:52Janelle. Oh yeah, of everybody that was mentioned, I'm on Janelle's team.
- 50:55Then we hear Mary likes I'll write, I'll writ all right, Matthew
- 51:00McConaughey, which he's my celebrity crush. He's got some swag. Yes,
- 51:04so my physical type. But also Mary made a point to say somebody tall,
- 51:07please not another short, asked napoleonic motherfucking goblin, thanks and advanced Jesus.
- 51:14I think that also translates to somebody with a big dick, though,
- 51:15because you know, with the height comes the inches girling pencils. She wants,
- 51:22let me see what a big man's life. You lie on me.
- 51:25I feel that that's what I want in my life. Thank you. I
- 51:30feel like I paid for it. We get to Cody and he says that
- 51:35Robin's first of all, he asked for forgiveness for outing Robin, and I'm
- 51:38like, shut up. Nobody stops speaking right now. But he does say
- 51:43that Robin's celebrity crush is Ryan Reynolds Snooze, super boring, super boring.
- 51:49That's like having a crush on Jimmy Stewart from It's a Wonderful Life, which,
- 51:52by the way, I did have a crush on Jimmy Stewart. And
- 51:57then Cody said his celebrity crush is so Fia Loreen. He went to see
- 52:01some men from La Mancha or something I don't know movie when he was six
- 52:05years old and he knew he was straight. Honey, why did he have
- 52:08to say that? Exactly girl? I was thinking exactly gay comments, flamboyant
- 52:14gay. We thought he was flaming, buoyantly gay in high school. What
- 52:19if what if all of these women were just his beards? You know that
- 52:24term? Yeah, yeah, course beards. If y'all don't know in the
- 52:27gay community, I'll explain as a resident lesbian beards are it's a gay men
- 52:34term for men who are in straight relationships with a woman. That's their beard
- 52:39hiding behind like hiding their their homosexuality. Okay, so what is so Caun't
- 52:45lesbians have beards? Yeah, okay, so that's what that means kind of,
- 52:49but it's more a gay male term, right, yeah, because game,
- 52:52I don't know, girl, I don't know. I can see a
- 52:54world or beards. I can see a world where he was overcompensating because he's
- 53:00just a flaming homosexual. How are you going to have nineteen thousand children with
- 53:05women if you are a homostie? You broke Back Mountains? Did you hear?
- 53:12Did you watch Brokerack Mountain? I watched parts of it, but I
- 53:14just knew I was gonna have such a hard feeling. I saw some of
- 53:19it, but they're like the whole point and I know it's possibly like to
- 53:22have four wives. I'm just vaginas impregnating all these people, like I mean,
- 53:28maybe it's sexual. It's okay to be but all of it's okay.
- 53:31Of course, everything's okay. But listen, there was a series on TLC
- 53:36back around this time. When Sister Wives came out, I can't remember the
- 53:38name of it. It was about Mormon men who acknowledged their homosexuality, but
- 53:45they were married to women because in Mormonism, they're like, yeah, it's
- 53:47fine if you admit that you have homosexual tendencies, just don't ever act upon
- 53:52them and still be in a straight marriage. Okay. So I'm just saying,
- 53:55what if in this Mormon culture he was brought up to believe, like,
- 54:00no, you gotta still be straight. So he's like, Okay,
- 54:02I'm gonna get four women and prove to the world a heterosexual. I proved
- 54:07to my dad, improved to my dad Wynn Brown. It's a big ol'd
- 54:12ranch. I guess if there was an ex pose that came out that said,
- 54:15Cody Brown, you know, had bisexual or homosexual relationships, I wouldn't
- 54:20be that surprised. I would want to know everything. I would want to
- 54:23want to everything. But I just thought it was weird that he felt the
- 54:28need to say that. Maybe it's not weird, Maybe it's just me.
- 54:31I don't know. I got the same vibe. I mean, sophiil A
- 54:35Wren that was my father's crush too. Really just thought she was so voluptuous,
- 54:38beautiful. That's very pretty. You could have curves and it was okay,
- 54:43and everything she had nice little like waist lit small waist, big hips,
- 54:47big boobies. Yeah, my daddy thought that was hot. Wow.
- 54:51So that was interesting. How we ended it, well, actually we ended
- 54:54it with Christine saying, look, y'all, you've seen me for the last
- 54:58thirteen years I've been on sund You've seen me at the lowest points in my
- 55:02life. But you're about to see the highest ones, which is the best
- 55:07ones. Yeah, and so we're going to get a lot of that,
- 55:09I'm sure. Yeah. So we are going to head into I guess the
- 55:14wedding special so still to come. We see Christine preparing for her wedding.
- 55:20We see Janelle saying that the fact that David and Christine are openly affectionate soothes
- 55:27the wound that Cody inflicted. I loved that. Yeah, Janelle is so
- 55:31freaking aware, she is. She she sees it that me too, so
- 55:37sweet. We see Caleb and Hunter and we see Maddie crying saying that she
- 55:42loves him so much, which I think means David. I think, why
- 55:45would she love him so much? Doesn't know him. Well, could be
- 55:49Cody. I don't know, I doubt. I don't know if Maddy has
- 55:52a relationship with Really she doesn't currently so, I mean, in fact,
- 55:57Janelle said this season like she's got kids. She doesn't need to have toxic
- 56:00bad grandpa around all of our kids. So they don't really speak. Yeah,
- 56:05we see Christine presumably giving David a lap dance at the reception, dirty
- 56:14feel you're so honey. We also see the scene where Cody's like, yes,
- 56:17we know that they're getting married in a few days, and then he
- 56:21starts to bring up some sort of an accusation that Christine made because he's still
- 56:24upset. He's upset life in the Guineas. And Robin's like, mmmm,
- 56:30all we're gonna say is we're so happy for them. We just that's all,
- 56:34aren't we just happy for them? Like shut up, Cody, can
- 56:37you ever just shut up? Yike? And finally we see Christine walking down
- 56:40the aisle in that beautiful vista with the mountains and there's a lake and it's
- 56:45like so pretty. What a dream wedding, Christine. I'm happy for I'm
- 56:50happy for her as well. The comment by Robin to Cody. I was
- 56:54watching it with your daughter, my wife. She was like, I wonder
- 56:59if this means that Robin's getting fed up with him, like getting tired of
- 57:02him constantly griping on and on and on and on about this marriage that broke
- 57:07up and Christine leaving, when he's been saying, probably to Robin that he
- 57:13doesn't give a shit about Christine all these years. Like, I wonder if
- 57:15she's getting tired of it. I don't know. We see many instances of
- 57:20her actually cutting him off and telling him what to say or redirecting him,
- 57:23so it seems like in keeping with what she normally does. But you have
- 57:27to imagine if he's so willing to say this shit on camera, he's got
- 57:30to be talking all the time about it behind the scenes. And if I
- 57:32were like the only wife standing and I'm like trying to love you and all
- 57:37you do is keep talking about this bitch I hate anyway, we would have
- 57:39a problem. Yeah, like, shut the fuck up, my guy.
- 57:44So that'll be interesting to see. I'm looking forward to it. I don't
- 57:46now, are the scenes that we just saw from the wedding special or is
- 57:52that some of this stuff we're going to be seeing. Do you think in
- 57:53the next three strange episodes. I don't know, because strange episode you said
- 57:59the XT episodes are going to be like looking back, talking back and back,
- 58:04and then where are they now like that prying that much attention to it?
- 58:07Maybe it'll be bonus footage, Like maybe we'll get bonus footage. I
- 58:10think the first one they're actually going to field questions from social media, like
- 58:15and I think they're saying, like uncomfy questions, hard questions. Why didn't
- 58:21they ask us I'd have so many questions, so many questions, now why
- 58:23did nobody reach out? Well, so I'm actually looking forward to that because
- 58:27maybe production is actually reading what some of us are saying online or listening to
- 58:31some of these podcasts in which we're screaming into the void. It'd be so
- 58:36great, Cody. And also the way that production is doing things that maybe
- 58:39they're trying to compensate for some of us losing our fucking minds online. I
- 58:44don't know. One can only hope dare to dream. Yeah, So that
- 58:47was good. Yeah to rest the final tell nothing. Yes, And by
- 58:52the way, my apologies to Sukanya. Actually I don't know. I feel
- 58:55like I like her. I feel like she's a good judy, she's a
- 58:58good friend. I feel like I liked it. I could see where she
- 59:02was going with it. My suspicion is that last year when she did the
- 59:08tell all and she got railed, railed ghost by the viewers and the audience.
- 59:14I feel like she came into this very much finessing and massaging, but
- 59:20also with a bit more intention to I don't know about get Cody to say
- 59:24stuff, but to show the way things really are. Yes, I agree.
- 59:28Especially this last episode, you could see it more about her calling Cody
- 59:31out and being like, no, this is actually how they feel, this
- 59:35is actually what they're all saying, So shut the fuck up when you're weird.
- 59:37Really Okay, that's great. Yes, So I do appreciate Suki's comeback
- 59:43after last year's bullsh Yeah, because I was not happy to hear she was
- 59:46doing it again. No, I don't think any of us were. Yeah,
- 59:49she did a pretty good job. Yeah, she did a pretty pretty
- 59:52good job. Well, is there anything else that we want to say about
- 59:54this season, which we've now got under our belt? I mean, pretty
- 59:58interesting season, good at the beginning, and then it was just repeated bullshit
- 1:00:05hopefully season nineteen will be new stuff. Hopefully. Let's we're gonna see the
- 1:00:10last bits of all of this crap. They just I mean, they've kind
- 1:00:15of been doing this all along, so I'm not expecting anything super different.
- 1:00:20Let me tell you. I am here to just see where the chips fall,
- 1:00:23how that cookie crumbles. I want to see what's going on. Because,
- 1:00:27of course, you know, there was that news report that came out
- 1:00:29last week or something that Cody on the eleventh of December twenty twenty three had
- 1:00:34applied for some sort of some kind of a permit. I don't think it
- 1:00:38was for renovation or construction, but like to do things in his home.
- 1:00:43For example, they wanted to get they needed to get a new water heater,
- 1:00:46they needed to repair their heated driveway, and one other thing. So
- 1:00:50super but now nothing like, oh, we're doing an addition or we're putting
- 1:00:53in a courtyard. However, was I was thinking to myself, hmm,
- 1:00:59I wonder if that means they're trying to fix up the house for sale.
- 1:01:05Dude, that would be so great, because haven't we been hearing some rumblings
- 1:01:08and stuff of them needing to move out of flag Staff because it's getting too
- 1:01:13expensive. I mean flag Staff when I was living in Phoenix a few years
- 1:01:17ago, I mean, all of Arizona is so fucking expensive, and now
- 1:01:22it's just even worse. I can't even imagine what the cost of living is
- 1:01:23like in flag Staff. Any of you raccoons that live out there, I'm
- 1:01:27sure with Cody and Robbins bick mansion, you think they can afford the property
- 1:01:30taxes and shit on that, with no idea, with three wives gone,
- 1:01:34I think they're probably panicking. And we were able to see that some of
- 1:01:37the home was a little bit dilapidated, like the patio or the porch or
- 1:01:42whatever, and so maybe they're doing fundamental repairs that they can at some point
- 1:01:45put that home up. And then where are they gonna go? Honey,
- 1:01:49where are they're gonna move to? Are they gonna downsize? What about all
- 1:01:52those kids? You won't let gocas you're a helicopter rob even even day in
- 1:01:57the RV in the backyard, Like where you gonna put all the kids?
- 1:02:00Yeah? How are they going to be adults now? Like you've not prepared
- 1:02:04them for any life experience because they've been living under your wing this entire time,
- 1:02:08yes, and I'm just always counting the coin. So they purchased that
- 1:02:10home for eight ninety K, which is nine hundred rounded up. Yeah,
- 1:02:14and we know that Janelle gave I think one hundred and twenty. I think
- 1:02:16Mary gave about as much, so almost maybe two seventy five. So nine
- 1:02:22hundred thousand minus two seventy five are we at like six twenty five ish?
- 1:02:25So that's maybe your mortgage, which means you're paying about six thousand dollars a
- 1:02:30month, give or take, depending on when you took that loan out,
- 1:02:31maybe seven thousand dollars a month. But you've got equity now, but maybe
- 1:02:36you had to take out loans against that equity, because there are the rumors
- 1:02:38that Janelle asked for her one hundred and twenty thousand dollars back dollars back,
- 1:02:43which I would love to see on season nineteen. That's the kind of shit
- 1:02:45I'd love to see. I'd love it's the coin. Maybe Mary did the
- 1:02:49same thing, because Mary is striking me as awfully litigious and willing to spill
- 1:02:53the beans. So maybe Mary hears that Janelle did and she wants her money
- 1:02:58back too, And so now they're taking loan out. That's why they have
- 1:03:00to sell because if they pulled money from the equity and they've only got maybe
- 1:03:05I don't know, five hundred thousand, four hundred thousand left, Oh my
- 1:03:08god, you're gonna have to sell. Go somewhere else, somewhere cheaper.
- 1:03:12Go back to what are you going to do in this fucking economy now?
- 1:03:15With eight percent mortgagees seven percent or whatever it is now, Like, what
- 1:03:20are you gonna do? Well, if you if you have five hundred thousand,
- 1:03:22you can pull from equity, you can roll that into a new house.
- 1:03:24But it ain't gonna be a McMansion, No it ain't. It's gonna
- 1:03:27be a three bedroom, two bath or one and a half bath like the
- 1:03:30rest of us are living out here in these raccoon streets. Oh my god,
- 1:03:34you're gonna have to downside. So season nineteen that we could focus on
- 1:03:37that, I would love that. That would be the only scenario where I
- 1:03:40would love to see Cody and Robin on a Season nineteen like I don't give
- 1:03:44a shit otherwise about their life, or they're done, get the fuck out
- 1:03:47like nobody cares. But I would love to see you guys have to move
- 1:03:51or am I just like, how are you gonna How are you gonna These
- 1:03:53women aren't giving you their money, so what are you gonna do? And
- 1:03:57then there was a post spy without a crystal ball, don't come out,
- 1:04:00don't come out of don't come at me, bro, But she's talking about
- 1:04:03having insider information. There is a neighbor in Cody's gated community who has spilled
- 1:04:10some beans about Cody. Apparently he yells at kids to get off his lawn.
- 1:04:15He's known in the neighborhood as being very angry, very mean, doesn't
- 1:04:20talk to anybody. Yes, whoa like a very bad neighbor that nobody actually
- 1:04:26likes, Like in fact, you don't represent the flagstaff vibe and you ought
- 1:04:30to get yourself on and get out of here. They don't like him.
- 1:04:34Allegedly just a rumor. So you got no friends, you got no other
- 1:04:39wives to take advantage of, you got no money. What are you gonna
- 1:04:43do? They're gonna have to sell some of their artwork, some of their
- 1:04:45rings. Ragsy Village, I mean they were They said it was all investments,
- 1:04:50so that's why they bought all that money. Coyote Pass. Maybe Janelle's
- 1:04:55the last one. Standing with her four or five acre plot of land on
- 1:04:59Coty Pass. Maybe she keeps it. Maybe she's like, I don't know,
- 1:05:01girl, I'm gonna buy myself out. Y'all pay your plots. That
- 1:05:04sounds like a great season nineteen to me. If the production company could just
- 1:05:08start telling the truth a little bit, that would be fasstick. Give it
- 1:05:12to me, well Racco's this has been such a fun journey. Yes,
- 1:05:15it was a good season. It was a fine season. We made it
- 1:05:19great because we've we sucked everything. That is what we do. I hope
- 1:05:25they come back soon. I hope they come back spring or summer twenty twenty
- 1:05:29four so we can pick up and start getting back into stuff. In the
- 1:05:31meantime, we have to remind you that as soon as this season is over,
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