Latest / Voddie Baucham Sermons / Voddie Baucham - Question & Answer x Pastor Rob Pacienza
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- 0:02Speaker 2: All right, everybody.
- 0:02Speaker 1: Make your way back to your seat for, as we
- 0:06Speaker 1: wrap up this time together with Q & A. Like
- 0:09Speaker 1: I said, we had over 70 questions submitted when it
- 0:13Speaker 1: was all said and done, so no way we will...
- 0:16Speaker 1: get to all of them, but we will try to
- 0:19Speaker 1: focus on the ones that Vody dealt with today. But
- 0:23Speaker 1: real quick, you wanted to say something about fault lines.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Yeah. So I wanted to say something about these cards
- 0:30Speaker 2: and why we're doing this. We've never done this before,
- 0:33Speaker 2: but when a friend of mine posted on his Twitter
- 0:42Speaker 2: about this book upcoming, Twitter put a warning on it.
- 0:47Speaker 2: And then another friend, you know, did that and Twitter
- 0:49Speaker 2: put a warning on it. I put something up about it,
- 0:51Speaker 2: Twitter put a warning on it. And we were, you know,
- 0:53Speaker 2: telling people about pre-ordering the book. And so, you know,
- 0:59Speaker 2: this is considered, I guess, I don't know if it's
- 1:03Speaker 2: the book as much as it is me. Because a
- 1:06Speaker 2: lot of people, you know, when they put posts of
- 1:09Speaker 2: mine up, they come with a warning or whatever. So
- 1:13Speaker 2: we're trying to get around that obstacle as it relates
- 1:17Speaker 2: to the promotion of this book. By the way, we've
- 1:19Speaker 2: also seen the publisher of this book is Salem Publishing,
- 1:22Speaker 2: and they've never seen pre-orders the magnitude of what they're
- 1:29Speaker 2: seeing with this book. They just never have. And so
- 1:34Speaker 2: we're doing this in order to try to promote the
- 1:37Speaker 2: book and in order to try to use means that
- 1:40Speaker 2: go around some of the obstacles that social media is
- 1:43Speaker 2: now putting up for this book. And some people have questioned,
- 1:48Speaker 2: you know, well, why are you guys using Amazon? I
- 1:50Speaker 2: hate Amazon. I don't want to give Amazon any more
- 1:52Speaker 2: of my money. Okay, I get that. But here's the deal.
- 1:56Speaker 2: 70% of all books sold are sold by Amazon. And
- 2:02Speaker 2: pre-orders help Amazon to stock the book sufficiently so that
- 2:06Speaker 2: in the second or third day, they're not telling people
- 2:09Speaker 2: you'll get this in three or four weeks, which hurts sales.
- 2:13Speaker 2: And other book sellers look at how Amazon is having
- 2:17Speaker 2: to stock the book to determine how they're going to
- 2:20Speaker 2: stock the book. So we're using this right now in
- 2:22Speaker 2: order to help position this book because, I mean, as
- 2:28Speaker 2: crazy as it sounds, We could make the best sellers
- 2:30Speaker 2: list with this book. Then it won't matter if people
- 2:34Speaker 2: are blocking this or that or the other and it'll
- 2:38Speaker 2: be really hard for people to try to. So anyway,
- 2:44Speaker 2: that's what we're doing and that's why we're using this
- 2:46Speaker 2: particular angle. in order to get this done. So I
- 2:51Speaker 2: say that because several people have asked, you know, and
- 2:54Speaker 2: several people have even been offended that there would be
- 2:57Speaker 2: a link to Amazon on here. Um, you know, we're
- 3:00Speaker 2: plundering the Egyptians.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Um, yeah.
- 3:07Speaker 2: You can, uh, pre-order that.
- 3:08Speaker 1: The book comes out officially in April though, correct?
- 3:10Speaker 2: April 6th. Yeah.
- 3:11Speaker 1: But we need a pre-order today.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Absolutely. All right.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Let's Bodhi, the first one deals with, I guess you
- 3:21Speaker 1: would place this under gender justice, but for those that
- 3:25Speaker 1: are either struggling with.
- 3:27Speaker 2: CRT. Did you want to do the CRT?
- 3:29Speaker 1: No, let's do that next.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Okay.
- 3:33Speaker 1: For those that are struggling with gender confusion, sexual orientation,
- 3:38Speaker 1: or even sympathetic to it, How do we speak to
- 3:41Speaker 1: those people with truth and love?
- 3:43Speaker 2: Yeah, by speaking to them with truth and love. I
- 3:48Speaker 2: think oftentimes we think about, you know, speaking the truth
- 3:55Speaker 2: in love as though somehow there's a formula for particular situations.
- 4:02Speaker 2: If somebody, you know, responds A, then you A. Do
- 4:08Speaker 2: number one. If they respond B, you do number two. No,
- 4:12Speaker 2: speaking the truth in love is not formulaic. Speaking the
- 4:16Speaker 2: truth in love is a principle, right? And speaking the
- 4:19Speaker 2: truth in love has to do with your loving relationship
- 4:23Speaker 2: with a person. So I have a loving relationship with
- 4:27Speaker 2: my wife. Speaking the truth in love to my wife
- 4:31Speaker 2: looks one way.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Amen?
- 4:33Speaker 2: Amen. I have a loving relationship with my son, my sons.
- 4:39Speaker 2: I have seven sons and two daughters. Speaking the truth
- 4:42Speaker 2: in love to one of my sons looks different than
- 4:45Speaker 2: it does speaking it to my wife. Amen? Speaking the
- 4:49Speaker 2: truth in love. You see what I'm getting at here?
- 4:52Speaker 2: So don't fall into this trap of seeing people as constituencies,
- 4:59Speaker 2: seeing them as according to their intersectional reality, and saying,
- 5:03Speaker 2: someone belongs to this intersectional reality, therefore, this is the
- 5:08Speaker 2: way to speak the truth and love to them. No.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Speaking the truth and love has to do with your
- 5:13Speaker 2: relationship with a person, respecting your relationship with the person,
- 5:18Speaker 2: being wise as a serpent and innocent as a dove
- 5:22Speaker 2: in your relationship with the person, and having a commitment
- 5:26Speaker 2: because of your love for them to not compromise truth.
- 5:32Speaker 1: We have a question regarding, many questions regarding CRT, critical
- 5:36Speaker 1: race theory. But before I get to that question, can
- 5:38Speaker 1: you briefly define what critical race theory is?
- 5:41Speaker 2: Yeah. And I want to give you this. And this
- 5:47Speaker 2: comes from fault lines because I deal with this in
- 5:50Speaker 2: fault line just very briefly. But before I give you
- 5:54Speaker 2: this answer, it's kind of like what I was talking
- 5:56Speaker 2: about earlier with social justice. My goal and my desire
- 6:00Speaker 2: is not to build up, you know, a straw man
- 6:03Speaker 2: and not to build up the weakest version of CRT
- 6:09Speaker 2: so that I can tear it down. And what I've
- 6:12Speaker 2: tried to do with CRT is allow CRT to speak
- 6:15Speaker 2: for itself and to use academic articles, for example, with
- 6:21Speaker 2: thousands of references, which is ridiculous. huge in academic circles
- 6:26Speaker 2: if you have an article that gets thousands of references.
- 6:30Speaker 2: These things are authoritative. And so according to the most
- 6:34Speaker 2: authoritative sources on CRT, this is critical race theory. These
- 6:38Speaker 2: are the main components of critical race theory. There's four. One,
- 6:44Speaker 2: racism is normal. It's the usual way society does business.
- 6:50Speaker 2: The common everyday experiences of most people of color in
- 6:53Speaker 2: this country. right? If you remember the Lego movie, if
- 6:57Speaker 2: you had kids who watched the Lego movie for days,
- 7:00Speaker 2: you were sitting there, everything is awesome, everything, right? For CRT,
- 7:06Speaker 2: everything is racist, right? Everything is racist. Everything is racist.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Robin DiAngelo puts it this way. We don't have to
- 7:16Speaker 2: ask whether or not racism was manifested in that circumstance,
- 7:21Speaker 2: but how, Everything is racist. That's critical race theory. Everything
- 7:27Speaker 2: is racist. Number two is this idea of convergence theory.
- 7:32Speaker 2: This means that white people are incapable of righteous actions
- 7:36Speaker 2: on race and only undo racism when it benefits them.
- 7:42Speaker 2: That's critical race theory. White people are incapable of righteous
- 7:46Speaker 2: actions on race and anything that they do that undoes racism,
- 7:51Speaker 2: it's because it benefits them, not people of color. Thirdly,
- 7:56Speaker 2: CRT is anti-liberal. And what I mean is they question
- 8:01Speaker 2: the very foundation of the liberal order. And when I
- 8:03Speaker 2: say the liberal order, I'm not talking about liberal or conservative.
- 8:07Speaker 2: I mean the idea of equality, legal reasoning, enlightenment, rationalism,
- 8:14Speaker 2: the idea of neutrality, right? And even the scientific method.
- 8:22Speaker 2: And finally... the idea that knowledge is socially constructed, okay?
- 8:29Speaker 2: So they use storytelling and narrative reading as the way
- 8:35Speaker 2: that black people forward knowledge versus the scientific method of
- 8:42Speaker 2: white people. Now, an offshoot of that is the centrality
- 8:50Speaker 2: of experiential knowledge. CRT recognizes that the experiential knowledge of
- 8:56Speaker 2: people of color is legitimate, appropriate, and critical to understanding, analyzing,
- 9:02Speaker 2: and teaching about racism and racial subordination. By the way,
- 9:08Speaker 2: this is why CRT talks about racism in terms of
- 9:14Speaker 2: a conversation. Why is it important to have a conversation
- 9:19Speaker 2: about race? Because the only way you really learn about
- 9:22Speaker 2: racism is by listening to the voices of minorities. By
- 9:26Speaker 2: the way, this is why you hear things like we
- 9:28Speaker 2: need to elevate black voices, right? Why do we need
- 9:33Speaker 2: to do that? Because CRT says there is a special knowledge.
- 9:37Speaker 2: I've coined the term ethnic Gnosticism in order to explain racism.
- 9:42Speaker 2: this ideology, right? But CRT argues that by virtue of
- 9:47Speaker 2: being part of the oppressed, and by the way, this
- 9:49Speaker 2: comes out of critical theory and even earlier Marxism, by
- 9:54Speaker 2: virtue of being oppressed, you have access to knowledge that
- 9:58Speaker 2: the oppressor does not have access to and is blind
- 10:02Speaker 2: to by virtue of their position as the oppressor. So
- 10:06Speaker 2: if we're going to deal with this, it's going to
- 10:08Speaker 2: have to be a discussion that elevates minority voices. And
- 10:14Speaker 2: that terminology ought to sound very familiar to you. Because
- 10:18Speaker 2: that's the way CRT talks about race and racism. So helpful.
- 10:22Speaker 1: All right. So what I'm about to do is combine
- 10:24Speaker 1: about 10 questions into one because they're all along the
- 10:27Speaker 1: same lines. And it has to do with CRT. I
- 10:31Speaker 1: have a pastor that has endorsed CRT. And I'm now
- 10:35Speaker 1: listening to many leaders in the evangelical church. that have
- 10:38Speaker 1: endorsed critical race theory. Is this enough reason to leave
- 10:42Speaker 1: that church and stop listening to these leaders?
- 10:45Speaker 2: It's enough reason in your, let me talk about your church.
- 10:48Speaker 2: It's enough reason for you to engage your church and
- 10:52Speaker 2: to engage your leaders on this issue and on this topic.
- 10:58Speaker 2: I don't believe ever in, you know, sitting down, hearing
- 11:03Speaker 2: something and then bailing, right? we need to engage with
- 11:09Speaker 2: one another as brothers and sisters. We need to think
- 11:14Speaker 2: more of our relationship with our local church than just,
- 11:18Speaker 2: I heard something I don't like, I'm gone.
- 11:20Speaker 1: That's good. So I have a college-age student, college-age daughter,
- 11:29Speaker 1: and I have a son that is getting ready to
- 11:30Speaker 1: graduate high school today. They have a strong passion for
- 11:34Speaker 1: social justice as you define it. What resources, books would
- 11:38Speaker 1: you point them to?
- 11:39Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of things. There's one really good resource,
- 11:44Speaker 2: Shinvi Apologetics, Neil Shinvi. Neil Shinvi is, you know, he's
- 11:50Speaker 2: a scientist. I think his PhD is in chemistry or
- 11:53Speaker 2: something like that. But he's, and Shinvi is an apologist.
- 11:58Speaker 2: And Neil's website, I think it's shinviapologetics.com or shinviapologetics.org, is
- 12:06Speaker 2: a tremendous resource. He's got a lot of book reviews
- 12:11Speaker 2: on the main books in critical race theory and things
- 12:16Speaker 2: of this nature. He's got a whole section on it.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Another resource, and I quoted from this resource earlier, New Discourses. Now,
- 12:24Speaker 2: New Discourses is curated by an atheist. He's an atheist
- 12:30Speaker 2: that I've become friends with. His name is James Lindsay.
- 12:33Speaker 2: But James gets this. And James gets it from a
- 12:37Speaker 2: theological perspective. James is very familiar with Christian theology. And
- 12:42Speaker 2: although he's not a believer, sees very clearly the threat
- 12:46Speaker 2: to the church and to Christianity. And so New Discourses,
- 12:51Speaker 2: there's an encyclopedia there on the New Discourses website. And
- 12:57Speaker 2: you can go and look at the encyclopedia of all
- 12:59Speaker 2: the terms. And it's awesome. It's a wonderful resource. They
- 13:05Speaker 2: also have a lot of book reviews on the main
- 13:10Speaker 2: books and articles and the academic research on critical theory,
- 13:17Speaker 2: critical race theory, intersectionality, and critical social justice. So I
- 13:21Speaker 2: think those two things there, and those will point you
- 13:24Speaker 2: to other books. And also there's a book that came
- 13:28Speaker 2: out recently that.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose did. And that name, if you
- 13:35Speaker 2: don't know these names, so James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and
- 13:38Speaker 2: Peter Boghossian, they really came to prominence over what's known
- 13:45Speaker 2: as the hoax papers. And what they did was, these guys,
- 13:51Speaker 2: Lindsay is a mathematician, his PhD is in mathematics. Pluckrose
- 13:57Speaker 2: I think hers is in English literature, and Peter Boghossian,
- 14:00Speaker 2: his PhD is in philosophy. And these guys noticed that
- 14:03Speaker 2: in what they call the grievance studies, right? Feminist studies,
- 14:07Speaker 2: women's studies, you know, minority studies, African American studies, all
- 14:13Speaker 2: these areas. They noticed that these people were publishing peer-reviewed
- 14:19Speaker 2: articles that didn't do any research. And so what they
- 14:23Speaker 2: did was they wrote 20 papers for peer review, hoax papers.
- 14:28Speaker 2: They completely made it up outside of their fields in
- 14:32Speaker 2: these grievance studies areas. And I think something like 10
- 14:36Speaker 2: of them got accepted, and they were absolutely redonkulous. I mean,
- 14:42Speaker 2: the stuff that they were writing was way out there,
- 14:46Speaker 2: and they were being accepted in peer-reviewed journal articles. It
- 14:50Speaker 2: was complete trash. in order to prove the point that
- 14:53Speaker 2: these disciplines aren't academic disciplines. Well, the people with PhDs
- 15:01Speaker 2: in feminist studies, that's a small list. So their made
- 15:05Speaker 2: up name in one of the articles got discovered. And
- 15:10Speaker 2: so somebody threatened to expose the writer of this article
- 15:14Speaker 2: for not having a legitimate PhD from their institution. So
- 15:17Speaker 2: the gig was up, but they thought they were gonna
- 15:19Speaker 2: get two thirds of their papers published in peer review journals.
- 15:24Speaker 2: So they had to kind of admit what they had done. Uh,
- 15:27Speaker 2: but of course the damage was, was, was done by then. Um,
- 15:30Speaker 2: and so these guys, they're rock stars in terms of
- 15:36Speaker 2: understanding what's happening in academia and what's been happening in academia.
- 15:40Speaker 2: And Pluckrose and, uh, And Lindsay wrote a book called
- 15:44Speaker 2: Cynical Theories that is really good. And Al Mohler actually
- 15:49Speaker 2: had Lindsay on his show to interview him about cynical theories.
- 15:56Speaker 2: And it's great. Again, he's not a believer, but if
- 16:00Speaker 2: you're talking about resources to really help you understand this,
- 16:03Speaker 2: rather than reading 50, 75, 100 books and academic articles,
- 16:11Speaker 2: this is a way for you to kind of get
- 16:13Speaker 2: Introduced to it. Shenvi, S-H-E-N-V-I.
- 16:22Speaker 1: How's the reality of the postmodern worldview in our culture,
- 16:25Speaker 1: the dismissal of absolute truth? How has that led to
- 16:27Speaker 1: the growing acceptance of social justice, even inside the church?
- 16:32Speaker 2: Postmodernism hasn't just led to the growth of this movement.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Postmodernism is at the root of this movement. This is
- 16:39Speaker 2: sort of a modern manifestation of postmodernism, okay? This is
- 16:46Speaker 2: a modern manifestation of postmodernism. So yeah, this is sort
- 16:50Speaker 2: of a new manifestation, if you will, of postmodernism. And
- 16:54Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff comes out of postmodern theory.
- 16:59Speaker 2: These people are, these are expressions of postmodern theory in
- 17:03Speaker 2: a number of ways. So this is very much connected
- 17:07Speaker 2: to all of this. And really standpoint epistemology, which is
- 17:10Speaker 2: big and comes out of feminist theory, right? Standpoint epistemology
- 17:15Speaker 2: is just another manifestation of you have a different understanding
- 17:21Speaker 2: and a different you know, avenue and angle on truth
- 17:25Speaker 2: that other people don't have because of your standpoint, right?
- 17:28Speaker 2: This is a very postmodern ideology. So yeah, this is
- 17:33Speaker 2: very much connected to postmodernism.
- 17:37Speaker 1: So you have a lot of Christians inside the church
- 17:39Speaker 1: saying right now, pointing to the current cultural moment, saying
- 17:44Speaker 1: this is why we don't get.
- 17:45Speaker 2: Engaged in politics.
- 17:46Speaker 1: How can Christians honor God and still be politically active?
- 17:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is one of the most ignorant
- 17:54Speaker 2: things I've ever heard, right? This is why we don't
- 17:57Speaker 2: engage in politics. I'd say this is what we get
- 17:59Speaker 2: for not engaging in politics. Yeah. The other thing is this.
- 18:08Speaker 2: You can't not engage in politics. Not when you understand
- 18:13Speaker 2: politics rightly, right? You're constantly engaging in politics and with politics.
- 18:21Speaker 2: But I think one of our biggest problems is we
- 18:25Speaker 2: are thinking wrongly about politics. And when we say politics,
- 18:28Speaker 2: the only thing that we generally mean is presidential elections.
- 18:35Speaker 2: We're ignorant of who our local representatives are. We're ignorant
- 18:40Speaker 2: of how local policies are affecting us. We're ignorant about
- 18:44Speaker 2: our potential for participation in politics at any kind of
- 18:49Speaker 2: a local level. We're just We're ignorant. And so I
- 18:52Speaker 2: think one of our biggest problems is we've reduced politics
- 18:57Speaker 2: to presidential elections. And that's crazy. It's much more important
- 19:02Speaker 2: who your sheriff is than who the president is.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Amen. You did a great job in your first session
- 19:10Speaker 1: in addressing, no, we're all about justice.
- 19:13Speaker 2: We want to be just people.
- 19:15Speaker 1: So what does a healthy church look like that is
- 19:18Speaker 1: faithful to both the word? and truth, but also faithful
- 19:23Speaker 1: to being just. If the church is not after social justice,
- 19:28Speaker 1: what does a healthy church look like?
- 19:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what it looks like is people who
- 19:33Speaker 2: are being taught the whole counsel of God. Sorry, is
- 19:39Speaker 2: it my beard? Okay, fear the beard. There you go.
- 19:44Speaker 2: All right, people who are being taught the whole counsel
- 19:47Speaker 2: of God and people who are being discipled faithfully and
- 19:51Speaker 2: people who are being taught to take every thought captive,
- 19:54Speaker 2: people who are developing a biblical worldview. I think one
- 19:57Speaker 2: of the things we've done is we've fallen prey to
- 20:00Speaker 2: this sort of self-help Christianity. ten ways to have a
- 20:05Speaker 2: happy life, and five ways to reduce stress. And we
- 20:09Speaker 2: stop being theological. And because we're not theological, and because
- 20:15Speaker 2: we're not applying theology to the whole counsel of God,
- 20:19Speaker 2: then we don't know how to think about all of
- 20:22Speaker 2: these various issues around us. One of the things I
- 20:26Speaker 2: love about the Puritans is, you know, lack them or
- 20:31Speaker 2: lump them, right? The Puritans were applying biblical theology, systematic
- 20:37Speaker 2: theology to everything. I mean, they're writing about the ethics
- 20:44Speaker 2: of bear baiting, you know? I mean, it's just incredible
- 20:48Speaker 2: the way that they're doing it. What this is, is
- 20:50Speaker 2: an attempt at to think through everything theologically and apply
- 20:56Speaker 2: a theological grid to everything. And I think in a
- 20:58Speaker 2: healthy church, we're doing that. And in a healthy church,
- 21:03Speaker 2: because we're doing that, we have people who are engaging
- 21:06Speaker 2: and standing on all kind of walls out there, you know,
- 21:10Speaker 2: in in the culture at large. I don't think it
- 21:15Speaker 2: just looks like, you know, sort of this kind of
- 21:18Speaker 2: moral majority political activism, but I think it's much broader
- 21:23Speaker 2: than that. And I think we're engaging in all kinds
- 21:26Speaker 2: of areas, and we're engaging in in business and we're
- 21:30Speaker 2: engaging in politics and we're engaging in education and we're engaging,
- 21:34Speaker 2: you know, in social issues and all sorts of things
- 21:37Speaker 2: because we're applying this biblical grid to every area and
- 21:43Speaker 2: aspect of life. Yeah, that's good.
- 21:47Speaker 1: So often passages in the book of Acts, passages like
- 21:52Speaker 1: James 1, caring for the orphan and widow, are used
- 21:55Speaker 1: to defend the cultural Marxist paradigm and even the social
- 21:59Speaker 1: justice movement.
- 22:01Speaker 2: What would you say to that? I'd say a couple
- 22:04Speaker 2: of things. I'd say one, that's a gross misapplication of Scripture.
- 22:09Speaker 2: First of all, because Marxism has to do with the state, right?
- 22:13Speaker 2: It has to do with state ownership. It has to
- 22:16Speaker 2: do with getting away with private ownership and private property.
- 22:21Speaker 2: for example and when we talk about the you know
- 22:24Speaker 2: the believers having everything in common ananias and sapphira ananias
- 22:31Speaker 2: comes and god kills him because he lied to the
- 22:35Speaker 2: holy spirit not because he refused to give up private
- 22:40Speaker 2: ownership of his property but because he voluntarily sold his
- 22:45Speaker 2: property and peter says while it was yours didn't you
- 22:48Speaker 2: have the right to do whatever you wanted with it Well,
- 22:51Speaker 2: that's a rebuke of Marxism right there, right? The issue
- 22:57Speaker 2: there wasn't a good Christian has no private property. No,
- 23:02Speaker 2: the issue there was you lied and told God that
- 23:08Speaker 2: you did this when you really didn't do that. You
- 23:12Speaker 2: had the right to do whatever you wanted with it,
- 23:14Speaker 2: but you lied to the Holy Spirit in order to
- 23:16Speaker 2: make yourself, you know, look better. So, first of all,
- 23:19Speaker 2: complete misuse, misinterpretation, and misapplication of Scripture. Secondly, complete misunderstanding
- 23:26Speaker 2: and misapplication of Marxism, which has to do with the
- 23:30Speaker 2: giving up of private property, right? And so, no, I mean,
- 23:34Speaker 2: the Bible is replete with principles of how we respect
- 23:39Speaker 2: private property and how we, you know, use private property
- 23:44Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. So, yeah, there's Marx.
- 23:47Speaker 2: And the other thing is Marxism is an atheistic ideology.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Marx despised religion and Christianity in particular. So, yeah, that's
- 23:57Speaker 2: somebody who doesn't understand Scripture and also doesn't understand Marxism. Well,
- 24:03Speaker 2: we're going to end our time there. It is 1230.
- 24:06Speaker 1: And like I said last night, as somebody was commenting,
- 24:09Speaker 1: aren't you glad voting's on the team? And I said, no,
- 24:12Speaker 1: I'm glad he's the captain of the team.
- 24:13Speaker 2: And I mean that.
- 24:14Speaker 1: I mean that. I look at this man and I
- 24:20Speaker 1: thank God for him for standing for the truth. I
- 24:24Speaker 1: would be privileged and honored to pray for you, and
- 24:27Speaker 1: I know you would join me in praying for him.
- 24:29Speaker 2: He's got a busy schedule.
- 24:31Speaker 1: He's going to Charlotte, Huntsville, back down to southwest Florida,
- 24:35Speaker 1: and then eventually back to your full-time job. But thank you, brother,
- 24:40Speaker 1: for being with us this weekend, and let me pray
- 24:43Speaker 1: for you and for your ministry. Would you join me
- 24:45Speaker 1: in prayer? Our Father and our God and Lord, I just,
- 24:49Speaker 1: I thank you. Lord, for such a time as this,
- 24:53Speaker 1: you have raised up this man of God to preach boldly,
- 24:58Speaker 1: to speak the truth in love, and to be a
- 25:01Speaker 1: witness to the kingdom of God on.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Earth as it is in heaven.
- 25:05Speaker 1: And so, Lord, I pray that you would protect him. Lord,
- 25:09Speaker 1: you would fulfill your promise that you will be Votie
- 25:12Speaker 1: Bauckham's advocate, that he doesn't need another advocate, that Jesus
- 25:17Speaker 1: is enough. Lord, Satan would love nothing more than to
- 25:20Speaker 1: take this man down. But Lord, I thank you. Thank
- 25:24Speaker 1: you that he is out there preaching the truth. So Lord,
- 25:27Speaker 1: would you bless his ministry? Would your favor be upon him? Lord,
- 25:31Speaker 1: I pray that you would use his words, words that
- 25:35Speaker 1: come from the spirit of the living God to soften hearts,
- 25:39Speaker 1: to transform minds, Lord. Bless him in his travels, Lord.
- 25:43Speaker 1: Bless him in his work here in North America. Bless
- 25:45Speaker 1: him in his work at African Christian University. I thank
- 25:49Speaker 1: you that he has dedicated his life and ministry to
- 25:53Speaker 1: training and equipping people with a biblical worldview because we know, Lord,
- 25:57Speaker 1: how we think influences how we live. So, Lord, I
- 26:02Speaker 1: thank you for placing this calling on his heart. Bless
- 26:05Speaker 1: him and keep him this day. in the days and
- 26:08Speaker 1: the months and the years ahead. In Jesus' name I pray.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Amen.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Let's thank once again Votie Bauckham for being with us.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us this weekend. Please
- 26:33Speaker 1: feel free to check out the books on your way out.
- 26:36Speaker 2: And we would love to see you back here at
- 26:38Speaker 2: Coral Ridge.
- 26:38Speaker 1: If you're looking for a home church, we'd love to
- 26:40Speaker 1: see you tomorrow morning. We have a 9.30 and 11
- 26:42Speaker 1: o'clock service. Lord bless you and keep you the.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Rest of your weekend.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Thanks again for joining us.