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Credlin | 27 May · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Petero Krandland Live on Sky News Australia Quod Evening.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Here's what's coming up tonight on Kredline.
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Speaker 2: Last night's Liberal loss the post mortem on the ABC
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Speaker 2: plenty of the usual labor like liberals running out that
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Speaker 2: line that the party went too far and right. But
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Speaker 2: amongst the lines there were some points of notes and
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Speaker 2: glimmers of hope. Indeed, I reckon we saw a future
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Speaker 2: Liberal leader come into his own More on that shortly,
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Speaker 2: Labour's tax on super looks more and more one sided
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Speaker 2: by the day. Reports at senior bureaucrats even the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister will be able to defer their payments. You won't
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Speaker 2: be able to, but they will. Labor did their best
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Speaker 2: to dodge the questions today, but it's catching up to them.
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Speaker 2: Plus the Board of Darwin shaping up. It was the
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Speaker 2: first big challenge for the albit easy government. The US
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Speaker 2: is eyeing off buying the lease. The PM talked a
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Speaker 2: big game before the election. Now will we follow through
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Speaker 2: or just roll over to Beijing? In live to the
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Speaker 2: United Kingdom too. That liver Or football parade where joy
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Speaker 2: turned to horror within seconds with a truly shocking video
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Speaker 2: emerging what But first I know to speak. Many of
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Speaker 2: you would have watched the Four Corners program last night
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Speaker 2: about the Liberals election route. I thought you might have
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Speaker 2: expected the typical ABC hatchet job we went wrong, But
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Speaker 2: there's pretty of unpleasant jobs I get to do for you.
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Speaker 2: So I watched it and here's my report. Well, largely
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Speaker 2: it was as you'd expect, a whole lot of people
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Speaker 2: telling Liberal Party that it had gone the wrong way,
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Speaker 2: that it was to right wing now. One of the
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Speaker 2: most substantial figures there was former Liberal Senate leader George
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Speaker 2: Brandis a moderate too, I should should add, who predictably
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Speaker 2: said the Liberal Party had lost touch with middle Australia.
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Speaker 1: The people you have to persuade to vote for you
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Speaker 1: are the people who didn't vote for you last time
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Speaker 1: but are open to persuasion. And those people live in
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Speaker 1: the centerground of Australian politics. And if you spend your
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Speaker 1: time drinking your own political bath water and only living
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Speaker 1: in an echo chamber of far right wing opinion, you're
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Speaker 1: never going to get them.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I really take a lot of advice
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Speaker 2: from senators who have never really run many elections in
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Speaker 2: their time, have they Then there were special pleadings from
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Speaker 2: former federal MP Jason Felinski, who lost his own city
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Speaker 2: seat to a Teal and somehow blames the Nationals and
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Speaker 2: Conservatives for making the leaves unelectable even though it's a
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Speaker 2: Liberal party primary vote. It's the Liberals primary vote that's
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Speaker 2: fallen from around forty percent to under thirty percent since
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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, while a NAT's or they have largely held
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Speaker 2: their numbers.
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Speaker 3: If we're talking about cole versus nuclear versus renewable versus,
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Speaker 3: whether it's even happening at all, then you're in a
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Speaker 3: culture war scenario and it's like, yes, our opponents love
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Speaker 3: that issue. Why would we give our opponents what we want?
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Speaker 3: And for so many years that's what we've done.
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it a culture war. I'd call that
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Speaker 2: a debate about our economic and indeed our national security.
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Speaker 2: We also heard too, quite a bit from a very
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Speaker 2: new Senator, Maria Covicheck, a close factional ally of the
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Speaker 2: renewables lobbyist Michael Photius, the factional warlord in New South Wales,
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Speaker 2: who almost the day arch of the election, told the
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Speaker 2: party this is covid check. It had to dump its
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Speaker 2: pro nuclear policy, remarkably enough, at the very same time,
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of expensive, high rotation anti nuclear ads
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Speaker 2: started to appear. Well. Last night, Covicheck was again on
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Speaker 2: her anti nuclear hobby horse.
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Speaker 4: You want to die with the nuclear policy, don't you.
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Speaker 5: I just think it was going to be hard enough
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Speaker 5: as it was. So my answer to you is yes,
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Speaker 5: because it was going to be difficult to negotiate even
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Speaker 5: if we'd started on it on Monday, if we'd won
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Speaker 5: the election. Right hard to deliver three years into the future,
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Speaker 5: it's going to be even harder.
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Speaker 2: Yet another Senator who's never had to run a marginal
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Speaker 2: or seek campaign and probably wouldn't know a constituent if
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Speaker 2: they fell over them. Now, what faul Corners largely glossed
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Speaker 2: over here was that one liberal had beaten a teal
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Speaker 2: party in cumbent, and that liberal had campaigned very strongly
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Speaker 2: on nuclear energy. That liberal was Tim Wilson. Here he
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Speaker 2: was making the very point about nuclear on the program
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Speaker 2: a few days ago.
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Speaker 6: There were people who walked up to the Boosts and
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Speaker 6: said to me, I'll vote for you if you trash
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Speaker 6: nuclear and I said, well, I'm sorry, I'm not prepared
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Speaker 6: to do that. I support it last I was in Parliament,
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Speaker 6: I support it now and I'm going to continue to
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Speaker 6: support it into the future.
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Speaker 2: Now, fairness to the ABC and Patricia carvellis there was
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Speaker 2: a little bit of pushback that made it to air
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Speaker 2: from the new Deputy Leader of the Format, Energy spokesman
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Speaker 2: Ted O'Brien, who reiterated his support for nuclear power in principle, if.
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Speaker 7: You were to keep nuclear and go to the next
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Speaker 7: election with it, which I accept is three years away,
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Speaker 7: that's a gift to the Labor.
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Speaker 2: Party, isn't it.
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Speaker 8: Honestly? Right now, the Australian people have said to the
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Speaker 8: Coalition that they didn't believe that they saw in us
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Speaker 8: a good enough reason to put us into government. Now
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Speaker 8: the reasons behind that is what we need to really understand.
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Speaker 8: What we can't afford to do is take the election
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Speaker 8: result and then rush to conclusions.
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Speaker 2: Obrian was in backed by former Defense spokesman and someone
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Speaker 2: who I regard as the potential future Liberal leader, Andrew Hasty,
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Speaker 2: who pointed out the hypocrisy of explorting and gas to Wasier.
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Speaker 2: I might add uranium too, but having too much climate
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Speaker 2: vanity to use it here in Australia.
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Speaker 9: Should we allow this sort of hypocrisy at the heart
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Speaker 9: of our economy to continue, whereby we sell coal and
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Speaker 9: gas to India and China and we deny it to
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Speaker 9: our own people. That's the question that I think we
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Speaker 9: need to answer.
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Speaker 2: Spot on. Hasty also made the point that liberals should
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Speaker 2: now be free of the net zero straight jacket, that's
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Speaker 2: what he called it. But stop them from coming up
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Speaker 2: with comprehensive policy to get power prices down in the
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Speaker 2: short term by continuing to use coal and gas and
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Speaker 2: getting more gas into the system.
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Speaker 9: Now, the question of net zero again, that's a straight
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Speaker 9: jacket that I'm already getting out of. The real question
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Speaker 9: is should austray in families and businesses be paying more
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Speaker 9: for their electricity?
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Speaker 2: And then there was former Education Shadow Sarah Henderson who
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Speaker 2: bravely insisted it was not the liberal's job to hug
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Speaker 2: the policy center ground.
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Speaker 10: The answer is not to move to the center, but
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Speaker 10: to move forward as one united team continuing to bring
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Speaker 10: together classical liberals and conservatives in our great party. And
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Speaker 10: that's a very important job, and that is the best
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Speaker 10: and most important way forward for our party.
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Speaker 2: Henderson might be a Senator now, but unlike when the
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Speaker 2: other senators, they're flapping their jaws. She has won and
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Speaker 2: held one of the nation's toughest marginal seats. Now there's
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Speaker 2: no mystery to why the Liberals lost, and had nothing
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Speaker 2: to do with being two right wing or two left
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Speaker 2: wing or not close enough to the center. It's that
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Speaker 2: they were, by and large, with just a couple of exceptions,
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Speaker 2: a policy free zone. Yes they had some announcements, but
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Speaker 2: it was a giveaway here and a hand out there.
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Speaker 2: It was not policy and it was certainly not and
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Speaker 2: it wasn't just on energy where the Liberals let themselves down.
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Speaker 2: There was no comprehensive policy alternative to Labour's Big Australia
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Speaker 2: Agenda or on education, two areas where the Coalition talked
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Speaker 2: a big game, it promised alternatives but never delivered. Or
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Speaker 2: perhaps there was work done, but for whatever reason, it
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Speaker 2: was never actually released by campaign headquarters.
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Speaker 10: I'm very proud of the education policy that we delivered,
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Speaker 10: but unfortunately the policy was buried and we only had
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Speaker 10: the opportunity to announce a few measures. Who buried I
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Speaker 10: don't know. It was done by campaign headquarters. The Thursday
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Speaker 10: night before the election, my media release was withdrawn and
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Speaker 10: a lot of incredible hard work by my team and
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Speaker 10: many others right across the coalition unfortunately didn't see the
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Speaker 10: light of day.
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Speaker 2: As John how it often says, politics is a contest
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Speaker 2: of ideas, and if you don't create a contest and
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Speaker 2: fight for your ideas, you simply can't win. Being an
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Speaker 2: opposition is actually the time for politicians to do some
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Speaker 2: of their deepest thinking when they don't have the public
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Speaker 2: service to do it for them, and when they actually
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Speaker 2: have the time and the intellectual freedom to come up
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Speaker 2: with policy ideas that reflect the liberal values of personal responsibility,
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Speaker 2: good citizenship and the efficient use of resources. That's what
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Speaker 2: the Victorian Liberals have just done for the first time
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Speaker 2: in many years, I might add, with their new policy
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Speaker 2: today to exempt first home buyers from stamp duty.
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Speaker 11: A Victorian Liberal and National's government are pleased to announce
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Speaker 11: today that we'll ensure there will be no stamp duty
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Speaker 11: for any home up to a million dollars for first
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Speaker 11: home buyers here in Victoria. This is a policy that
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Speaker 11: will be a game changer. This will as a policy
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Speaker 11: that will put confidence back in the market so we
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Speaker 11: can get supply back into the market as well.
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Speaker 2: Well. All a Luja. We say in Victoria now years
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Speaker 2: it will add to demand and lack of supply is
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Speaker 2: also an issue that liberals will have to address. But
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Speaker 2: at least it'll give first home buyers a leg up
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Speaker 2: and do something to tackle the barriers that young people
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Speaker 2: now face getting into the housing market, with the average
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Speaker 2: home now costing some thirteen times average wages, double what
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Speaker 2: it was some thirty years ago. To get into the game,
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Speaker 2: the liberals have to offer solutions, solutions to problems. I
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Speaker 2: just car't from the sidelines, as too many oppositions I
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Speaker 2: want to do so. At last we've got some liberals,
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Speaker 2: at least in Victoria, showing a bit of fighting spirit.
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Speaker 2: Let's hope that's now infectious. All right, let's get our
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Speaker 2: headlines from Camera scunia's political reporter Ruben Spargo.
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Speaker 12: The Albanzi government is set to green light a major
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Speaker 12: gas project in Western Australia. Woodside's Northwest Shelf development will
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Speaker 12: be extended, according to the Financial Review. Labour claims gas
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Speaker 12: is part of its plan to shift the nation towards
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Speaker 12: renewable energy. The extension faces criticism from environmental and climate groups.
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Speaker 12: Woodside claims timely approval is critical to support thousands of jobs,
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Speaker 12: provide billions of dollars in taxes and deliver gas supply.
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Speaker 11: I just find it bizarre that they couldn't do this
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Speaker 11: before the election, and I think the reason was they
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Speaker 11: didn't want to have a fight with conservationists.
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Speaker 12: Sky News understands the Environment Minister will make an official
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Speaker 12: announcement in the coming days. Labour MPs are dodging questions
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Speaker 12: over the fairness of a new superannuation tax. The government
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Speaker 12: will double the tax on earnings for balances more than
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Speaker 12: three million dollars. It will apply to unrealized capital gains.
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Speaker 12: Veteran politicians and public servants eligible for older super schemes
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Speaker 12: will be able to defer payments until they retire. Everyday
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Speaker 12: Australians will be forced to find the cash to pay
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Speaker 12: the annual tax immediately.
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Speaker 11: Past federal and future Federal MPs will be object to
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Speaker 11: this tax if their balance gets over three million.
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Speaker 2: Now this is a reasonable measure.
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Speaker 13: It's set to come into effects from July one.
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Speaker 12: The Prime Minister is touring flood affected areas on the
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Speaker 12: New South Wales North Coast. Anthony Albernezi was in Tarred
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Speaker 12: to meet victims and disaster response teams, seventy extra Defense
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Speaker 12: Force personnel joined thousands of volunteer workers currently on the
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Speaker 12: ground for the cleanup. Federal support payments for flood victims
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Speaker 12: are flowing.
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Speaker 2: All right. We're starting to see some more Senate results
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Speaker 2: come in and there's movement too when it comes to
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Speaker 2: the recounts in Bradfield and the partial recount in Goldstein.
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Speaker 2: So let's go now for the latest Chief Election Analyst
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Speaker 2: Tom Connell.
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Speaker 14: The Senate is taking shape Tasmania. The button was pushed
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Speaker 14: today and.
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Speaker 13: It's going to remain status quo.
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Speaker 14: You can see at the top is the number of
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Speaker 14: seats that were being defended by each party.
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Speaker 13: It is going to be the same.
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Speaker 14: Lab with two point four to seven, just fall short
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Speaker 14: of getting a third spot, so they'll get to the
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Speaker 14: Liberal Party two, the Greens one and Jackie Lamby although
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Speaker 14: her vote was down at point five to one, she
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Speaker 14: gets one position as well. It follows on from yesterday
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Speaker 14: in South Australia. We did get confirmation that Labour gets
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Speaker 14: a third so they went from two to three with
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Speaker 14: two point sixty six quotas. They got over the top
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Speaker 14: there to get that final spot ahead of One Nation
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Speaker 14: two to the Liberal Party one to the Greens three
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Speaker 14: to Labor. How does this mean everything's taking shape?
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Speaker 13: There's still this.
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Speaker 14: Projection that Labour ends up being able to get votes
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Speaker 14: passed in the Senate just with the help of the Greens.
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Speaker 13: They start with.
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Speaker 14: Twenty five if you like, they're set to gain if
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Speaker 14: they win all the ones they're leading in on the
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Speaker 14: current count, another five and get to thirty with the Greens.
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Speaker 14: That's an easy majority. They need thirty nine to get
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Speaker 14: a vote passed in the Senate.
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Speaker 2: Where else will they get it?
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Speaker 14: Well, they'll get one in Queensland clearly, they're going from
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Speaker 14: one there to two because they have two point one
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Speaker 14: to three quotas. The other big hope would be New
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Speaker 14: South Wales, which we're going to find out about later
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Speaker 14: in the week. They've got two point six to three,
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Speaker 14: so their point sixty three will go up against one
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Speaker 14: Nation's point four to two. Labor luckily gets ahead. They've
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Speaker 14: got multiple avenues to get control of the Senate with
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Speaker 14: the Greens. As we continue to find out about the Senate,
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Speaker 14: we're also in the recount zone now in Bradfield. We've
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Speaker 14: seen a slight uptick on this vote for the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 14: As you can see here twelve votes aheadges el Capterian. Look,
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Speaker 14: there's no strong pattern emerge just yet, but she has
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Speaker 14: gone from eight to twelve, and that would indicate so far,
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Speaker 14: perhaps the votes are just trickling her way, as I said,
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Speaker 14: not established it.
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Speaker 2: We've gone through thirteen booths. There are more than sixty.
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Speaker 14: So tomorrow we'll get a bit of a better idea,
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Speaker 14: more of the corrections going her way. Will she extend
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Speaker 14: her lead to twenty or thirty?
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Speaker 2: From there? It would be.
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Speaker 14: Hard for Nicolette Bullet to win, but this seat has
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Speaker 14: had plenty of twists and turns.
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Speaker 2: Now that County Goldstein was a partial count, she wanted
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Speaker 2: to full count. The AC knocked her back. This is
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Speaker 2: a bit interesting look at this tweet she put out
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Speaker 2: about Donald Trump in twenty twenty, when she said Trump
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Speaker 2: has to find an excuse for losing that is not himself,
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Speaker 2: because he can't accept being a loser. Comes back to
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Speaker 2: haunt it, doesn't it who's the sole loser. Now let's
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Speaker 2: get across some other issues with my next guest political letedator.
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Speaker 2: Of course that Sky News Andrew Klenew Andrew, welcome to
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Speaker 2: the program. I want to start with Labour's proposed tax
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Speaker 2: on unrealized gains. This is on super accounts only at
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Speaker 2: this stage three million or above. I don't think the
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Speaker 2: Coalition did enough with this during the campaign, but the
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Speaker 2: negative headlines are now coming thick and fast.
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Speaker 13: Whole lot of.
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Speaker 2: Labor and Peace today trying to dodge questions about the
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Speaker 2: fairness the equity in this tax because we find out,
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Speaker 2: of course, with some senior politicians, including the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 2: they will be able to defer payments of this tax
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Speaker 2: until they retire, not so every other Australian. They'll have
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Speaker 2: to pay it when it's due in the same financial year.
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Speaker 2: So what's going to happen here? Do you think the
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Speaker 2: Treasurer will have to make changes to fix that problem?
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Speaker 15: I don't know. I actually don't know. I think it'll
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Speaker 15: be up to the Prime Minister. I suspect the Treasurer
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Speaker 15: will sick with it, and I guess when you've got
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Speaker 15: ninety four seats, there's no real urgency to change it.
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Speaker 15: When it affects people with more than three million dollars
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Speaker 15: in there. Super fun but one simple fix, but they
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Speaker 15: probably want more revenue, so charmers might not be.
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Speaker 13: Keen on it.
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Speaker 15: Is just to tax people when they would draw so
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Speaker 15: you don't have this unrealized gains issue, which seems very
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Speaker 15: unfair and a bad precedent. But let's see if they
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Speaker 15: go down that path. I think they'll certainly try to
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Speaker 15: introduce the tax. It's whether or not that they will
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Speaker 15: tinker with it. And one of their problems is what
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Speaker 15: you highlighted there. There's a lack of clarity around how
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Speaker 15: it will affect federal politicians like or ex politicians like
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Speaker 15: Anthony Albaneze and Peter Dutton, those elected before the two
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Speaker 15: thousand and four elections. So we're already revealed here on
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Speaker 15: sky and is those on the X state MP scheme.
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Speaker 15: State judges, state police commissioners won't cop the tax. There
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Speaker 15: was a test case in the High Court on this
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Speaker 15: in the late nineteen nineties, so they can't be subject
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Speaker 15: to this sort of federal tax. But with federal MPs,
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Speaker 15: there's various experts coming out there saying various things about it,
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Speaker 15: and the Treasurer hasn't really been able to put enough
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Speaker 15: clarity around it, so that's proving difficult. But I think
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Speaker 15: a very simple fix is to make it on the
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Speaker 15: withdrawals from the fun not unrealized gains.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they'll do that. I do think
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Speaker 2: they'll stick with unrealized gains. I think they've got ninety
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Speaker 2: three seats, as you say, and I think they're going
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Speaker 2: to be ten foot tigh and bulletproof when they get
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Speaker 2: back to Parliament. But I do think the hypocrisy on
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Speaker 2: the defined benefit schemes, particularly the Prime Minister and the
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Speaker 2: handful that are left still in the Parliament. Notwithstanding, of
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Speaker 2: course all the senior bureaucrats, the defense chiefs and others,
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Speaker 2: there's just the politicians. There's quite a lot on those
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Speaker 2: defined schemes. They're complex to sort of work up in
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Speaker 2: policy terms, So I get why it's in the too
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Speaker 2: hard basket. I just don't think it'll pass a pub
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Speaker 2: test unless they do some sort of attempt to make
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Speaker 2: it equitable. Talked to you about that Northwest Shelf gas
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Speaker 2: development because this was buried going into the election, lots
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Speaker 2: of issues with the then Environment Minister Tarhanya Plever Sec.
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Speaker 2: But it looks like we're going to get a decision
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Speaker 2: either tomorrow or Thursday.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, we will. And look he has three options.
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Speaker 15: Marry, what that's to approve it to reject it and
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Speaker 15: to approve it with conditions, and I think it'll be
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Speaker 15: the third. So whether he carves out a bit of
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Speaker 15: indigenous rock art with the expansion of the what is
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Speaker 15: a gas processing plant? Or whether he says you don't
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Speaker 15: have the approval till twenty seventy, but you have until
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Speaker 15: twenty fifty or twenty sixty remains to be seen.
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Speaker 13: But I don't think there's any doubt.
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Speaker 15: As John o'dunham said in that clip, that their intention
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Speaker 15: was to delay it past the election so they could
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Speaker 15: get more Green's preferences. And that's a pretty cynical exercise,
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Speaker 15: isn't it. I mean, but maybe Tenure Plivseka also wasn't
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Speaker 15: comfortable in approving it in the fashion that Anthony Albanesey wanted.
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Speaker 15: We know there was some tension over the way she
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Speaker 15: ran her portfolio. So you know, Marry, what been the job?
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Speaker 13: Two weeks? Suddenly an expert on the project and he
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Speaker 13: can approve it. What is that to you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I'm as cynical as you. And I'm also
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Speaker 2: cynical about those twenty thirty five emissions reduction targets. They're
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Speaker 2: shunted down to the back of the year, they'll pick
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Speaker 2: up in agriculture and a whole lot of other things
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Speaker 2: like transport. So I think the prices are high in
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Speaker 2: your power bill, they're only going to get higher. Hey,
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Speaker 2: you had some revelations of Sathaneron about just into Nampajim
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Speaker 2: for price. What can you tell us us about the
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Speaker 2: lower House?
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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, Peter Dunton approached her about eighteen months ago
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Speaker 15: and said, do you want to run for either Lingiari
19:35
Speaker 15: or Solomon. Now she had to go at Lingiari in
19:38
Speaker 15: twenty nineteen, but Solomon was more wenable. That's kind of
19:41
Speaker 15: the Darwin based seat, and they got within one point
19:45
Speaker 15: three percent. So it does make me think maybe she
19:48
Speaker 15: should have gone for that, you know, if she wants
19:50
Speaker 15: to have a high profile downstairs, even be a future leader.
19:53
Speaker 15: I think that was an opportunity loss for just enter price.
19:57
Speaker 15: And what I could also tell you is the National
19:59
Speaker 15: suggest to a Hunter or Patterson. So she's definitely had
20:04
Speaker 15: her chances, and she confirmed that to me or officed
20:08
Speaker 15: in a statement this afternoon. It is interesting, isn't it.
20:11
Speaker 15: I think you've got to strike when the irons hot
20:13
Speaker 15: in politics. Maybe it would have been too hard to
20:16
Speaker 15: win Hunter or Patterson as we now see. But Solomon
20:19
Speaker 15: was a red hot chance.
20:22
Speaker 2: Well, I think she probably hadn't come back and have
20:24
Speaker 2: an undergo at Solomon. I don't think she'd ever go. Look,
20:26
Speaker 2: I don't know she might ever got Lin Giari as well,
20:28
Speaker 2: but she's pretty young and I wouldn't rule it out.
20:31
Speaker 2: And if she cumments herself in the party, that'd be
20:33
Speaker 2: the chance at the next election. We'll see this big
20:37
Speaker 2: decision today in Sydney, the Australian Turf Club members. This
20:40
Speaker 2: is a surprise I think from some of the commentary
20:43
Speaker 2: going into the vote, decided not to proceed with the
20:46
Speaker 2: sale of the proposed sale of rose Hill Gardens. A
20:50
Speaker 2: lot of talk, eighteen months worth of process here Andrew
20:53
Speaker 2: and the members here voted down something that might have
20:57
Speaker 2: delivered them in the order of five dollars.
21:04
Speaker 15: Well, I've never seen Peter Valandi's loose before. Peter, That's
21:07
Speaker 15: the most surprising thing for me. The racing and sports
21:10
Speaker 15: the prema normally gets his way, but ultimately in this bid,
21:14
Speaker 15: the ATC Peter mcgourren, who works closely with mister Valandi's,
21:19
Speaker 15: they needed to bring the trainers with them, didn't They
21:21
Speaker 15: people like Chris Waller and Gay Waterhouse when they're speaking
21:25
Speaker 15: up against it, it's going to be difficult. And you
21:29
Speaker 15: know the re emergence of Mark Latham with a bit
21:32
Speaker 15: as a political figure one Nation now an independent, he
21:36
Speaker 15: played a big campaign against this, so I guess he
21:38
Speaker 15: would see it as a victory of sorts. It could
21:41
Speaker 15: be seen as a bit of a shame for Sydney
21:43
Speaker 15: because they need, you know, places to put homes and
21:47
Speaker 15: this was an ideal place, but they never came up
21:50
Speaker 15: with that solution for racing in Western Sydney that was
21:53
Speaker 15: satisfactory at all. And above all, I think it's an
21:56
Speaker 15: embarrassment to Chris Minds. He spent a lot of time
21:58
Speaker 15: backing this and you know, if that's his planned for
22:02
Speaker 15: homes in Sydney, he's failed on it.
22:06
Speaker 2: Yeah. Interestingly, I listened to the interview there from Peter
22:09
Speaker 2: mcgo on this afternoon after the vote fell over, and
22:13
Speaker 2: he made some I think really sound comments about the
22:16
Speaker 2: future of racing, its need to attract younger people. It's
22:20
Speaker 2: not the pipeline of investment that it was twenty or
22:23
Speaker 2: thirty years ago. It's under competition from a whole lot
22:26
Speaker 2: of sports, so I think there was a real strong
22:28
Speaker 2: argument for them to look after the financial future that's
22:32
Speaker 2: now been lost. He says, it's off the table for good.
22:34
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. Andrew, thank you. Let's go
22:37
Speaker 2: up season No. Out of the UK. Those shocking scenes
22:39
Speaker 2: out of Liverpool and England's North. But forty seven people
22:43
Speaker 2: were injured after vehicle plowed into a crowd of soccer fans.
22:45
Speaker 2: And this was a huge crowd, thousands lining the streets
22:49
Speaker 2: to celebrate Liverpool's Premier League win when the incident took place.
22:53
Speaker 2: A forty three year old man believed to be the driver,
22:55
Speaker 2: has been detained by police, while twenty seven people have
22:59
Speaker 2: been taken to hospital. There have been as yet no
23:02
Speaker 2: reported deaths. We hope it stays that way. Joan Now
23:05
Speaker 2: from Liverpool Our News Corp Europe correspondent Sophie Ellsworth. We'll
23:10
Speaker 2: tell you what, Sophie. You go from some great events
23:13
Speaker 2: one day and to some terrible, terrible tragedies the next.
23:16
Speaker 2: The footage is shocking. Police have said though they don't
23:20
Speaker 2: think at this stage it was terror related.
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Speaker 16: PETA, Yes, that's exactly right.
23:28
Speaker 17: Their police here in Mercyside came out last night and
23:32
Speaker 17: were quick to say that this is not terror related
23:36
Speaker 17: and that a fifty three year old white British male
23:40
Speaker 17: has been arrested the driver of the vehicle. So they
23:44
Speaker 17: were very quick to put out these details to wash
23:47
Speaker 17: any speculation, and also they put out a stern warning
23:52
Speaker 17: for people not to share any graphic images on social
23:56
Speaker 17: media because, Peter, this was a day of celebration for Liverpool.
24:00
Speaker 17: This was an amazing event for the English Premier League
24:04
Speaker 17: winning team, and people line.
24:06
Speaker 16: The streets far and wide.
24:07
Speaker 17: It was a ten mile parade that the players were
24:12
Speaker 17: going through and people he congregated in the town, in
24:16
Speaker 17: the city all day yesterday afternoon until about six o'clock
24:20
Speaker 17: last night when this car plowed through the crowd and
24:24
Speaker 17: those horrifying scenes that we saw, Peter. So there's a
24:27
Speaker 17: lot of very people, a lot of people here today
24:30
Speaker 17: in a very somber mood and still scratching their heads
24:33
Speaker 17: trying to comprehend with what unfolded.
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Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question about the information the
24:40
Speaker 2: police gave in relation to the driver's ethnicity, because I
24:43
Speaker 2: have no issue with ethnicity being out there as a descriptor,
24:47
Speaker 2: but it's not always consistent. So we know that he
24:50
Speaker 2: was a white male of a particular age. Do we
24:53
Speaker 2: know regularly in other incidents the ethnicity of other people
24:58
Speaker 2: when they are not white?
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Speaker 17: Peter, you make a very good point, and I would
25:04
Speaker 17: argue that's not always the case. But they were very
25:08
Speaker 17: quick to put out this information and to make it
25:11
Speaker 17: clear that it is a white British male, fifty three
25:14
Speaker 17: year old local from Liverpool. So you can draw the
25:18
Speaker 17: conclusions and the viewers can draw their conclusions on that.
25:21
Speaker 17: But I think there was a concern of who may
25:25
Speaker 17: be the driver of this vehicle, so they wanted to
25:28
Speaker 17: clear this up straight away before spe speculation ran right.
25:34
Speaker 2: All right, well what does it feel like there? What's
25:36
Speaker 2: the mood like in Liverpool?
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Speaker 16: Well, Peter, it's a bit of a dreary day here.
25:41
Speaker 17: There's a lot of mess in the streets, still a
25:44
Speaker 17: lot of broken bottles, you know, the scenes of last
25:48
Speaker 17: night still well and truly here, people rolling their suitcases
25:51
Speaker 17: out of their hotel.
25:52
Speaker 16: The whole town was booked.
25:53
Speaker 17: Out, the whole city was booked out for these celebrations.
25:56
Speaker 17: There's a lot of people not feeling that great today.
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Speaker 17: What should have been an amazing day has been completely destroyed.
26:04
Speaker 17: By this incident that took place last night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll leave it there. I know you'll stay across
26:10
Speaker 2: at Thank you, Sophie. Right after the break. One of
26:13
Speaker 2: the first big tests for the re elected Alberanzia government,
26:15
Speaker 2: a US firm is poised to make an offer on
26:18
Speaker 2: the Port of Darwin currently in the Chinese part control
26:22
Speaker 2: class for the election over the PM shows is true
26:24
Speaker 2: colors when it comes to Israel. Welcome back to the
26:32
Speaker 2: come the landmark case that could change the rules around
26:35
Speaker 2: gender medicine in Australia, but First In wants it to
26:38
Speaker 2: be a test for the Prime Minister in relation to
26:41
Speaker 2: the Port of Darwin and it's Chinese control. A US
26:44
Speaker 2: private equity firm with strong ties to the Trump administration
26:48
Speaker 2: is poised to make an offer. New York based Cerberus
26:51
Speaker 2: Capital Management reportedly prepping a formal bid to buy out
26:55
Speaker 2: the lease from the land Bridge Group billionaire owner Their
26:58
Speaker 2: Yi Chung offer slightly above the five hundred and six
27:01
Speaker 2: million that land Bridge paid ten years ago from Malcolm
27:05
Speaker 2: Turnbull's government for the ninety nine year lease over the facility.
27:09
Speaker 2: Here to discuss this and more strategic analysis, Australia Director
27:13
Speaker 2: Peter Jennings. Well, there's it been a real test for
27:15
Speaker 2: Alberanzi here, Peter, because we got some mixed messages from
27:19
Speaker 2: the PM during the election campaign. He wasn't on this
27:22
Speaker 2: issue at all. The moment he got win the coalition,
27:24
Speaker 2: we're going to move on it that he then tried
27:27
Speaker 2: to oh, we know, we hit the fine. He got
27:29
Speaker 2: on the ABC, got onto radio and sort of tried
27:31
Speaker 2: to gazump their announcement. Already we've got the Chinese ambassador
27:38
Speaker 2: talking about the ethics of booting out a Chinese company.
27:42
Speaker 2: How is this going to play out? Do you think?
27:46
Speaker 7: Well, I just love that we're being lectured by the
27:47
Speaker 7: Chinese ambassador on ethics, Peter. I think that's one for
27:51
Speaker 7: the ages. My view is that Anthony Albernizi's got a
27:55
Speaker 7: golden opportunity here because for the first time there is
27:58
Speaker 7: a company with a Syria interest in wanting to take
28:02
Speaker 7: over the port facility. This is the Cerberus Group and
28:07
Speaker 7: in December last year it was announced that they were
28:09
Speaker 7: actually teeming with an Australian company to build a port
28:13
Speaker 7: facility on an island called Garden Island, not the one
28:17
Speaker 7: in Sydney, but off the coast of Western Australia near Derby.
28:21
Speaker 7: They're going to put three hundred million US dollars into
28:24
Speaker 7: building a new port facility. So Cerberus I think has
28:27
Speaker 7: an interest in Northern Australian infrastructure with a mind towards
28:32
Speaker 7: defense and security. If they're interested, I think the Prime
28:36
Speaker 7: Minister should say hallelujah, and you know, this is a
28:39
Speaker 7: great opportunity to reverse a terrible mistake for him, to
28:42
Speaker 7: claim a political victory. I guess he will Peter and
28:46
Speaker 7: to actually turn the port to the uses that it
28:49
Speaker 7: needs to address, which is more Australian Army vessels that
28:54
Speaker 7: will have to be based there in coming years, plus
28:56
Speaker 7: a greater interest from our allies. So this is a
28:59
Speaker 7: golden opportunity and I hope that our government is prepared
29:03
Speaker 7: to take it.
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Speaker 2: Do you think he's prepared to stand up to Beijing.
29:07
Speaker 7: Though, that's the key question. I mean, this is a
29:12
Speaker 7: case where I think Albanesi has got to show that
29:15
Speaker 7: he is prepared to push back. He keeps saying that
29:18
Speaker 7: he will do it where it's necessary, and really the
29:21
Speaker 7: only purpose that Landbridge's lease up in the port is
29:25
Speaker 7: serving right now is preventing the port from being developed
29:29
Speaker 7: for Australian army use and for the use of our allies.
29:34
Speaker 7: You know, we're not seeing the investment that was promised
29:36
Speaker 7: into developing the economy around this port. So you know
29:40
Speaker 7: the Prime Minister went on record he chose to do
29:43
Speaker 7: that during the election campaign. He's made a promise. I
29:46
Speaker 7: think he's got to live up to that for his
29:48
Speaker 7: own political reputation and also for Australia's national security.
29:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was cynic al, I'd say the Chinese
29:56
Speaker 2: are almost land banking it now for ninety nine years,
29:59
Speaker 2: keeping anybody else out, including the Americans, and make it
30:02
Speaker 2: difficult for Australia and the US under AUCUST to develop
30:06
Speaker 2: that space. So let's hope this can change. I've got
30:09
Speaker 2: something to play from Donald Trump in a moment. This
30:12
Speaker 2: is about Russia, Ukraine the war, of course, but he
30:15
Speaker 2: seems to have cooled on his sort of romance romance
30:20
Speaker 2: with the Russian leader.
30:21
Speaker 18: I have a listen, and I'm not happy with what
30:25
Speaker 18: Putin's doing. He's killing a lot of people and I
30:27
Speaker 18: don't know what the hell happened to Putin. I've known
30:29
Speaker 18: him a long time, always gotten along with him, but
30:33
Speaker 18: he's sending rockets into cities and killing people, and.
30:36
Speaker 13: I don't like it at all.
30:37
Speaker 18: Okay, we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting
30:41
Speaker 18: rockets and to Giev and other cities. I don't like
30:43
Speaker 18: it at all.
30:46
Speaker 2: Now he's got to touch a megaphone diplomacy to me.
30:48
Speaker 2: But I think that's pretty much how President Trump plays things.
30:53
Speaker 2: What's the strategy here, do you think?
30:56
Speaker 7: Well, this is what you might call the education of
30:59
Speaker 7: young Donald's Peter. I think he's finally realizing that his
31:03
Speaker 7: interests in Vladimir Putin's interests don't work together. And that's
31:07
Speaker 7: because Putin is refusing to come to the table as
31:10
Speaker 7: Trump wants them to to negotiate. And even when Trump
31:14
Speaker 7: is putting all these inducements towards Putin, Putin continues to
31:18
Speaker 7: double down on its military strategy. So it's come late.
31:22
Speaker 7: I'm surprised that Trump is surprised, if I can put
31:25
Speaker 7: it that way, that he's discovering that Putin is a
31:29
Speaker 7: dangerous player in international affairs. But if this makes the
31:33
Speaker 7: President decide that it's better he's better off supporting Ukraine
31:37
Speaker 7: a bit more and being more cautious about dealing with Putin,
31:41
Speaker 7: then that's a good outcome and with everything he does, Peter,
31:44
Speaker 7: it's going to be played out loud in public for
31:47
Speaker 7: all of us to admire us as he goes through it.
31:53
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the comments made by Palestinian representatives
31:56
Speaker 2: in Australia. They've lorded the Prime Minister for comments he
32:00
Speaker 2: made decrying Israel's actions in Gaza. The Palestinians say this
32:05
Speaker 2: is a significant advancement in Australia's position on Palestine. Meanwhile,
32:10
Speaker 2: our Jewish leaders in Australia have expressed a fair amount
32:13
Speaker 2: of alarm. I mean, I've got a real issue when
32:17
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister when he speaks about hostages, indeed, when
32:21
Speaker 2: he talks about even if he wants to go after Hermas,
32:25
Speaker 2: he almost feels like he's got to give a whack
32:28
Speaker 2: to Israel on the way through. Surely we can avoid
32:32
Speaker 2: this and be sound in how we express our anger
32:38
Speaker 2: and our lack of support in any way, shape or
32:42
Speaker 2: form for what he is, a listed terror organization in harmash.
32:48
Speaker 7: So I don't think the PM's heart is ever going
32:51
Speaker 7: to be in supporting Israel, to be honest, Peter. And
32:54
Speaker 7: did you notice how it disappeared out of the government's
32:57
Speaker 7: mouth during the course of the election campaign, and of
32:59
Speaker 7: course now it's back with the same strategy to sort
33:03
Speaker 7: of took up a fake Palestinian state. The only effect
33:07
Speaker 7: it's having on Israel is that they've stopped listening to us,
33:10
Speaker 7: and they've stopped listening to a number of their other
33:12
Speaker 7: key supporters in the democracies. Israel is very clearly now
33:17
Speaker 7: on a military course to make sure that Hamas is
33:20
Speaker 7: never going to be able to threaten it again from Gaza,
33:23
Speaker 7: and they appeared to be doing that by creating a
33:26
Speaker 7: long buffer zone between Gaza and Egypt to start. Yes,
33:31
Speaker 7: this is leading to some terrible stories about casualties which
33:35
Speaker 7: are just awful, but as we all know, the walk
33:37
Speaker 7: could stop tomorrow if Hamas was prepared to step down
33:41
Speaker 7: and our government is adding nothing to that. Peter, it
33:44
Speaker 7: is simply virtue signaling it's looking after a left constituency
33:49
Speaker 7: here in Australia, and no one in Israel, in the
33:53
Speaker 7: government or outside of the government, I think, is listening
33:56
Speaker 7: to lectures from Anthony Albanezi, which just simply not helpful,
34:02
Speaker 7: whereas what we should have been doing was standing up
34:04
Speaker 7: for an ally maybe behind closed doors counseling that we
34:08
Speaker 7: needed to see a quicker resolution to end a war
34:11
Speaker 7: in Gaza. But our government's not doing that. It's for
34:15
Speaker 7: virtue signaling. That's where they're at on this issue.
34:20
Speaker 2: Peter Jennings, thank you. Right just before we go to
34:22
Speaker 2: the break, I want a place some footage of Emmanual
34:25
Speaker 2: macarn arriving. I think it was in Vietnam with his
34:28
Speaker 2: wife on the plane and the tarmac, the doors are opening,
34:30
Speaker 2: you can see there the officials are about to board
34:33
Speaker 2: the aircraft. He's off there in the distance and it
34:36
Speaker 2: gets a bit of a push to the face. I
34:39
Speaker 2: think he goes back in to sort of regroup before
34:42
Speaker 2: he has to front the cameras. They come down the
34:44
Speaker 2: steps and there is no hand holding. It's quite the
34:47
Speaker 2: frosty treatment. And we might have a grab a little
34:50
Speaker 2: later on when he is asked about this by the
34:53
Speaker 2: national media and the international media and he tries to
34:56
Speaker 2: brush it off.
34:57
Speaker 19: Have a listen when the boozer we were squabbling and
35:01
Speaker 19: I was joking with my wife and I'm surprised by it.
35:04
Speaker 19: Can it becomes some sort of geoplanetary catastrophe. Everybody needs
35:11
Speaker 19: to calm down and should really focus on actual news.
35:17
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't look like it was joking. It looks
35:20
Speaker 2: pretty serious. And I just say, Emmanuel Macron, if that
35:23
Speaker 2: had been a female being shoved by the male's spouse,
35:28
Speaker 2: we'd all have a different take on it. Tonight you've
35:30
Speaker 2: gotten away with it. But I've always thought that was
35:32
Speaker 2: a very unusual relationship, to say the least, all right
35:36
Speaker 2: after break. It could prove to be a landmark case.
35:38
Speaker 2: An Australian d transitioner now seeing the doctors who performed
35:43
Speaker 2: her gender treatment, but how labors yet again planning to
35:47
Speaker 2: use immigration to get itself out of a budget whole
35:56
Speaker 2: welcome back, now out to a landmark Victorian court case.
35:59
Speaker 2: A young woman who believed for years she was non
36:01
Speaker 2: binary or a transgender male is suing two doctors and
36:06
Speaker 2: Monash Health alleging negligent gender treatment caused her serious harm.
36:11
Speaker 2: Mel Jeffries is thirty three. She was born female, now
36:14
Speaker 2: living again as a woman, claims she was prescribed to
36:18
Speaker 2: stosterone and underwent a double vistectomy without proper psychiatric care.
36:23
Speaker 2: Named in the lawsuit of Monash Health and two Melbourne
36:26
Speaker 2: medical professionals, who Jeffries allegers all failed to meet professional standards,
36:31
Speaker 2: including those requiring mental health issues to be properly managed
36:35
Speaker 2: before starting hormone treatment. Here to discuss the issue in
36:38
Speaker 2: more Tasmanian Liberal Senator Claire Chandler, Senator, welcome to the program.
36:43
Speaker 2: I mean you have long campaigned for greater protection for
36:46
Speaker 2: children and vulnerable adults undergoing these alarming surgeries and treatments.
36:53
Speaker 2: But this looks like it's happened under the current model,
36:55
Speaker 2: which is affirming care. The psychiatric work doesn't appear to
37:01
Speaker 2: have been done, or certainly that's the contention of Mel Jeffries.
37:04
Speaker 2: Do you what This is a real wake up call
37:06
Speaker 2: for Australia, isn't it. Oh?
37:10
Speaker 20: Look, I absolutely think that this case will be a
37:12
Speaker 20: wake up call for Australians, Peter, and it should be
37:16
Speaker 20: a wake up call for the gender medicine industry across
37:19
Speaker 20: the country. There are so many people around Australia whistleblowers.
37:24
Speaker 20: People have been raising concerns for many, many years now
37:27
Speaker 20: that these doctors are not doing what they should. They
37:30
Speaker 20: are not operating under the presumption of do no harm.
37:34
Speaker 20: They are in fact doing serious harm to Australians, particularly
37:38
Speaker 20: young Australians, in not having a more fulsome and holistic
37:42
Speaker 20: care model and looking after these people in clear distress.
37:45
Speaker 20: So I think that this case has the potential to
37:48
Speaker 20: be really, really incredible in what it uncovers.
37:55
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you too, given you've just been
37:58
Speaker 2: confirmed as return and to the Senate, congratulations are in order.
38:03
Speaker 2: We've had a lot of sort of I think quite
38:06
Speaker 2: proper introspection about why the Liberals lost as badly as
38:09
Speaker 2: they did. Some naval gazing, some as we saw last
38:13
Speaker 2: night on the AB see a bit of misinformation, you know,
38:16
Speaker 2: too far to the right. We've got to go to
38:18
Speaker 2: the left and hit the middle. Where do you think
38:21
Speaker 2: things need to go in the new party room under
38:24
Speaker 2: new leader Susan Lee.
38:27
Speaker 20: Look, I don't think that this is a case of
38:29
Speaker 20: the Liberal Party needing to go further to the right
38:32
Speaker 20: or further to the left. What we need to do
38:35
Speaker 20: as a party is clearly articulate to Australians what it
38:39
Speaker 20: is that we believe in and how in accordance with
38:42
Speaker 20: those beliefs we will make their lives better. And in
38:46
Speaker 20: everything that I've done in my last six years in
38:48
Speaker 20: the Senate, on the back bench, in the Shadow Ministry,
38:51
Speaker 20: in the Shadow Cabinet, I have always sought to make
38:53
Speaker 20: sure that my actions speak just as loud as my
38:56
Speaker 20: words in terms of how I want to make.
38:58
Speaker 16: Lives better for Australians.
39:00
Speaker 20: That's tabling a bill in the Parliament to save women's
39:03
Speaker 20: sport or advocating for the rights.
39:05
Speaker 16: Of Iranian women and girls.
39:08
Speaker 20: It's always so important that we're not just talking the talk.
39:11
Speaker 20: We're not just saying things that we think people want
39:14
Speaker 20: to hear. We're actually doing the things that they want
39:16
Speaker 20: to see us do. So I think that's what we
39:19
Speaker 20: as a Liberal Party really need to get back to,
39:21
Speaker 20: standing up for what we believe in and saying how
39:24
Speaker 20: what we believe in makes lives better for Australians.
39:30
Speaker 2: I agree with you on particularly the issues of women
39:33
Speaker 2: and girls in sport. I know you can do lots
39:35
Speaker 2: of other different things. I know you've had lots of
39:38
Speaker 2: other speeches in the Chamber and contributed to lots of
39:41
Speaker 2: other legislations, but this was one area that coming out
39:44
Speaker 2: of the campaign people said, you know, stop fighting culture wars.
39:48
Speaker 2: I don't regard sticking up for women and girls in
39:50
Speaker 2: sport clear to be a culture war issue. I just
39:53
Speaker 2: think that's a human rights issue, that's a common sense issue,
39:57
Speaker 2: and I think most Australians. I think if it's a
40:00
Speaker 2: explained to them in you know, not inflammatory language, this
40:05
Speaker 2: is the sort of thing that everyone would back.
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Speaker 20: Oh look, I completely agree with you, Peter. Standing up
40:12
Speaker 20: for the rights of women and girls shouldn't be something
40:15
Speaker 20: that's controversial.
40:16
Speaker 2: It's not a cultural war issue.
40:18
Speaker 20: In fact, and I've said this on your program many times,
40:22
Speaker 20: but the overwhelming majority of women who have contacted me
40:25
Speaker 20: concerned about the erosion of their rights in Australia aren't
40:29
Speaker 20: women who tell me that they're traditionally liberal voters. They
40:33
Speaker 20: are women who tell me that they have traditionally voted
40:35
Speaker 20: for the Labor Party or for the Greens, and that
40:38
Speaker 20: both of those political parties have completely abandoned them on
40:41
Speaker 20: these issues. So you can't tell me that when this
40:45
Speaker 20: is an issue the protection of women in girls' rights
40:48
Speaker 20: that has appeal way across the political spectrum, that it's
40:51
Speaker 20: purely a cultural war issue.
40:52
Speaker 2: That's just not true. You are spot on. You know,
40:56
Speaker 2: if I'm stoctor out in public about an issue like this,
41:00
Speaker 2: it's generally people who do not vote my way, you know,
41:04
Speaker 2: people wearing the yes T shirts, people that are activists
41:07
Speaker 2: for other parties absolutely want this just to be mainstream,
41:11
Speaker 2: and it should be mainstream. As I said, congratulations getting
41:14
Speaker 2: back into the Senate today, that's just been announced. And
41:16
Speaker 2: let's hope you're on the front bench again, Claire Chandler.
41:19
Speaker 2: Thank you all. Right, after break. Why Victoria looks to
41:22
Speaker 2: be banking on even more migrants to try and turn
41:24
Speaker 2: it's two one hundred billion dollar dead around. What a
41:28
Speaker 2: Ponzie scheme and the winning gap between wages and property prices.
41:32
Speaker 2: This is extraordinary. Adam Crichton, Terry Barnes up next, Panelsy here,
41:41
Speaker 2: let's bring them in. Senior fellow and chief of columnst
41:43
Speaker 2: at the IPA, Adam Crichton and columnist with the Spectator
41:46
Speaker 2: Terry Barns. He also does a bit of radio and
41:48
Speaker 2: I listened to here in the middle of the night
41:49
Speaker 2: when I can't sleep. Not that you put me to sleep,
41:52
Speaker 2: but you're always interesting, but I love the radio in
41:54
Speaker 2: the middle of the night. Hey, let's start with immigration,
41:56
Speaker 2: because if you look into the budget papers in the
41:59
Speaker 2: Victorian gun, they're basically using forecasts of increased migration to
42:06
Speaker 2: pay off billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars
42:09
Speaker 2: of debt. But those forecasts on migration don't match what's
42:12
Speaker 2: happening federal in forecasts, all the RBA's forecasts, and of
42:16
Speaker 2: course the people who control the borders of the federal government.
42:19
Speaker 2: So this is a bit of a diddle of the books,
42:21
Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah.
42:21
Speaker 21: Well, the first point that I would make here is
42:23
Speaker 21: that I think I would trust Reserve Bank and the
42:25
Speaker 21: Federal Treasury over population forecasts over the state Labor Party
42:29
Speaker 21: in Victoria.
42:30
Speaker 13: But the interesting thing is here.
42:31
Speaker 21: That the state Labor Party in Victoria seem to think
42:33
Speaker 21: that faster population growth actually helps it, but actually for
42:36
Speaker 21: the state's point of view, it's actually worse. They've got
42:38
Speaker 21: to pay for the roads, in the hospitals and the
42:41
Speaker 21: police and all that sort of things, so actually it
42:43
Speaker 21: damages their finances. Fast population growth it might help the commonwealth,
42:47
Speaker 21: you know, through income tax payments and so forth, but
42:50
Speaker 21: it's actually bad for the state. So I mean, you
42:52
Speaker 21: know it, really, it's double stupidity, really, And also it's
42:54
Speaker 21: worth making the point that I think politically we're seeing
42:57
Speaker 21: all around the world and in Australia there's a demand
42:59
Speaker 21: for lower population growth through immigration, and it's worth pointing
43:02
Speaker 21: out that I think something like four fifths of Australia's
43:05
Speaker 21: population growth is now immigration that that's going to fall.
43:09
Speaker 21: So these forecasts are.
43:11
Speaker 7: Going to be wrong.
43:13
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right to remind me that too, because federally
43:16
Speaker 2: it's an inflator to the growth numbers. But the pain
43:19
Speaker 2: is born by the states exactive service delivery. Let's go
43:22
Speaker 2: that you report today from Australian Property Institute, which has
43:25
Speaker 2: found that home ownership is now three times harder than
43:28
Speaker 2: it was fifty years ago. Around the nation, home buyers
43:31
Speaker 2: need something like eight point one times the average annual
43:35
Speaker 2: income to buy a home, compared to just three point
43:38
Speaker 2: four percent when the averaging comes we're there in nineteen
43:42
Speaker 2: seventy five. Well, you know, I like to say that
43:44
Speaker 2: young people don't save. They all want a holiday to Bali.
43:47
Speaker 2: They want everything brand new. In my day used to
43:51
Speaker 2: go through the training post and get your second hand
43:53
Speaker 2: stuff when you moved out of home. Anyway, there's a
43:57
Speaker 2: bit more justification if you're sorry for young people.
43:59
Speaker 4: Now, well, it's right, and the trading post is long
44:01
Speaker 4: gone too. But certainly if you look at the way
44:04
Speaker 4: that house price inflation has rocketed in the twenty years
44:08
Speaker 4: and so I first actually two thousand and five was
44:11
Speaker 4: the year that we first built a house and I
44:13
Speaker 4: think it costs cost three hundred thousand dollars then part
44:16
Speaker 4: of me where we are. It's now worth well over
44:18
Speaker 4: a million, So it's absolutely extraordinary. Talking about young people,
44:21
Speaker 4: especially perst home buyers, getting into the market, I mean
44:24
Speaker 4: that is prohibitive. So it's good to see in Victoria
44:27
Speaker 4: for at least that the Victorian opposition, which I find
44:30
Speaker 4: is very trying at the best of times, is actually
44:32
Speaker 4: trying for a change.
44:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. The big announcement today that if you are a
44:36
Speaker 2: first home buyer and you buy a home a million
44:39
Speaker 2: dollars all below in terms of cost, no stamp duty.
44:42
Speaker 4: Which is good for those young people who are trying
44:45
Speaker 4: to get into the market. And I think at least
44:48
Speaker 4: they're showing that they're prepared to do something which is
44:50
Speaker 4: happening that's irritated and angered to be about Victorian opposition
44:53
Speaker 4: for a long time they haven't been. But I think
44:56
Speaker 4: they also need to look at the supply side as
44:59
Speaker 4: well as demand side, so need to look at things
45:01
Speaker 4: such as planning approvals such as making development easy, making
45:06
Speaker 4: red tape, slicing and dicing it. If they can do
45:09
Speaker 4: that as well as off of the stamp duty removal.
45:13
Speaker 4: I think they've got a real policy, but they've made
45:15
Speaker 4: a start and that's a good thing.
45:16
Speaker 2: In all. Credit to them too, because criticism of the
45:19
Speaker 2: federal government, the Federal Liberals sorry, is that they left
45:22
Speaker 2: everything too late in the game. So what November next
45:25
Speaker 2: year You've got a state election in Victoria and getting
45:27
Speaker 2: the policies out now they have to keep going.
45:30
Speaker 4: That's what we have to see.
45:32
Speaker 2: All right. Let's go to that news out yesterday. Power
45:35
Speaker 2: bills will spike austraighting Energy regulator up by upwards of
45:39
Speaker 2: nine percent. It's not uniform. Nine percent was mainly in
45:42
Speaker 2: New South Wales. The Queensland government. Though. In all of
45:45
Speaker 2: this renewable talk, we've got the nt scrapping their emissions targets.
45:49
Speaker 2: We've got the Queensland government acting a one billion dollar
45:52
Speaker 2: win farm. We'll hear here to that. But there's some
45:55
Speaker 2: one hundred other renewable projects and they're looking really closely
45:58
Speaker 2: at they are not sold on them. So Chris Bowen
46:01
Speaker 2: can bang on about net zero all he likes, but
46:04
Speaker 2: the delivery mechanism is at a state level, and the
46:07
Speaker 2: states are getting to be winning about this stuff. Well,
46:09
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's perfectly reasonable.
46:10
Speaker 21: And just on the power price increases, I mean's a
46:12
Speaker 21: sense of deja vut. If we go back twelve months,
46:14
Speaker 21: I think it was a nine percent increase as well,
46:16
Speaker 21: so we have another nine percent increase. And indeed, since
46:18
Speaker 21: the Albanezer government came in, I think power prices are
46:21
Speaker 21: up forty percent. So what is this going to be
46:23
Speaker 21: ten percent every year for the next three years, for
46:25
Speaker 21: the next six years, I mean this is five percent
46:27
Speaker 21: and wise it's yes, that's right. I mean I think
46:29
Speaker 21: I think more and more people, including state governments and
46:31
Speaker 21: the Northern Territory, are realizing it's just becoming more and
46:34
Speaker 21: more expensive.
46:35
Speaker 13: And it's not just a cost.
46:36
Speaker 2: I mean, these these wind farms.
46:37
Speaker 21: Actually destroy rural communities, as you well know, you've done
46:39
Speaker 21: a lot of research on this yourself, you know. I mean,
46:42
Speaker 21: as I've said on this show before, I think, you know,
46:44
Speaker 21: I think that we've reached peak net zero and I
46:46
Speaker 21: think more and more people are waking up to the
46:48
Speaker 21: extraordinary costs and that is the trajectory that we're going
46:51
Speaker 21: to see for the next few years, which is a
46:52
Speaker 21: good thing. But there's going to be a lot of
46:54
Speaker 21: coladal damage in the meantime. You know, so hats off
46:57
Speaker 21: to the Queensland government and the Northern Territory government or
47:00
Speaker 21: you know, for changing these things.
47:01
Speaker 13: I mean the renewables.
47:02
Speaker 21: They're massively subsidized. You don't see the subsidies and the
47:05
Speaker 21: federal budget.
47:06
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, indeed.
47:07
Speaker 2: At seventy percent of the wind and solar is confirmed
47:11
Speaker 2: now to.
47:12
Speaker 13: Be exactly no, exactly.
47:14
Speaker 21: I think our research showed that one point seven billion
47:16
Speaker 21: dollars was basically funneled from households to the solar farms,
47:20
Speaker 21: and I think something like seventy percent or something. These
47:22
Speaker 21: farms are actually foreign owned. So this is a racket,
47:26
Speaker 21: and I think people are waking up to the racket.
47:27
Speaker 21: It's you know, it's all. It's all basically underpinned by regulation,
47:31
Speaker 21: a federal regulation and state regulation, and it's going to
47:35
Speaker 21: unravel slowly. But it's just so sad. We've just done
47:37
Speaker 21: so much damage to our economy. In the meantime.
47:40
Speaker 2: Machete van ban in Victoria big news. Obviously. Yesterday the
47:44
Speaker 2: Premier comes out and says I did say I couldn't
47:46
Speaker 2: do it till September. I'm going to bring it forward
47:48
Speaker 2: till Wednesday. But that's the sale of machetes, it's not
47:52
Speaker 2: the possession of them. She still can't do that for many,
47:55
Speaker 2: many months. But we find out today that two of
47:58
Speaker 2: the people arrested in relation and charged in relation to
48:01
Speaker 2: the attacks on the weekend, both of them young people.
48:04
Speaker 2: Terry were already out on.
48:06
Speaker 4: Bail, absolutely pulling, absolutely pulling. And the fact that they
48:13
Speaker 4: said on Wednesday it's going to stop, you can't buy one,
48:17
Speaker 4: So there's a rush on Tuesday, and then in September,
48:20
Speaker 4: which is when they're saying that possession will be illegal
48:23
Speaker 4: as well.
48:24
Speaker 2: Why is that?
48:24
Speaker 4: I mean, Parliament in Victoria is sitting at the moment,
48:27
Speaker 4: there's clearly cross party support for doing something.
48:31
Speaker 13: Do it.
48:32
Speaker 4: You've got the opportunity, they've got the people that got
48:34
Speaker 4: the support.
48:34
Speaker 2: Just go ahead and do it.
48:36
Speaker 13: But just to a slightly discord it known.
48:37
Speaker 21: I mean, it's not a machete problem, it's a people problem.
48:41
Speaker 21: The number of machetes in Victoria, I'm sure has not
48:43
Speaker 21: changed very much in the last the last ten.
48:46
Speaker 2: The cultural issue as well, but accept your point. It's
48:49
Speaker 2: the human being at the end of the MACHETI absolutely,
48:52
Speaker 2: but they're not doing anything with the human beings because
48:54
Speaker 2: they're out on bail. Anyway, I'll over their gents. That's
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Speaker 2: it for me, See Tomo night. Here's Andrew