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Hammer Down · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary for podcast.
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  I'm Curtis Wilson. Brian Sigler, buddy.
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  We live on a Wednesday night, how you feeling live on a
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  Wednesday night back to the normal bowel weekly episodes
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  after some ups and downs over the last few months, whatever.
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  And it flows, we were kind of working out our schedule over
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  the offseason. We kind of okay.
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  Well, do you feel like it? Yeah, anyone lined up, do we
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  have two is enough news to talk about.
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  Let's kind of Things out and you know after two weeks ago we had
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  some stuff for you but this has been a pretty busy couple weeks
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  especially with baseball and some of the stuff that's coming
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  out from the camps that have already started.
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  And some of the stuff that prize been talking about with some of
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  the local media. We thought, hey let's, let's get
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  another one out here. Let's talk these things through
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  a little bit and see, see what you guys think.
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  Absolutely, it was time. But again the Ebbs and flows of
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  the all-season. Sometimes we sit here.
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  Here and we start looking at how much data we have and it's like
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  that's like 30 minutes and I can talk not sit there and say it's
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  30 minutes ago. I'll be we compared it to with
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  our but I don't think you guys want to hear that.
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  Very don't we got some fun stuff for you tonight.
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  We got we got at least a good hour that is substantive and and
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  going to be good stuff for you guys to pour over for a lot of
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  stuff, broken on the last few weeks.
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  And like you said, Brian, let's lead it off.
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  Let's talk about the baseball program.
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  Ram. You know what a season.
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  First of all before we get into all the details, what a season
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  you know from I think you said it or tweet it out a few weeks
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  ago a few days ago. A team that was fixed to finish
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  sixth on their side of the conference wins.
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  The conference outright Gets a Super Regional host gets a
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  regional host. Is a top four seed, it is such a
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  gigantic step with a program in general.
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  Yeah huge step for the program. This is kind of what they've
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  been building towards, right? Like we we we've seen like baby
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  steps baby steps and they finally took that big step this
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  year and it was good to see them, kind of put the pieces
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  together where they could really, you know, put together a
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  run that, you know, I think. Blacksburg and Hokie nation in
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  general would be proud of and have been wanting to see for a
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  while. And, you know, super get to the
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  regional Regional hosting, it ran through Columbia twice got
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  right, state in that opening game, 14 runs in one inning
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  Jesus, that was just impressive. Like the game was kind of over
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  and I kind of looked away because it's like, they're not
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  coming back, we're hitting them hard, but do come.
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  Act like 30 minutes later and see the 14 spot.
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  It's like this is, I told you probably got a texted you, I
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  said this is like a state championship caliber, baseball
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  team playing one. That isn't good.
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  That's what that any remind me of in.
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  I mean they again they ran through them.
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  They never had a face Gonzaga the team we talked about the
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  most, they did not show up to the Blackbird Regional but now
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  they're pitching, didn't help them and they did not have the
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  Run support too. And also with Colombia, it's
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  true. But let's just talk about this
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  and let's just reflect, first of all, on the regional, to win a
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  regional to win, a regional is a milestone for program because
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  this program until 2022, had been in a been in nine.
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  I believe it never got to a Super Regional to win it.
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  And to get you the Super Regional.
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  That's a milestone in itself for a program that had never done it
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  before. Yeah.
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  It is starting. The regular season putting
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  themselves in a position where they can host the regional where
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  they could get a somewhat favorable draw in the regional
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  and be able to just Hammer them out of the park and move on to
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  the next stage. It was huge for them.
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  It's a huge. Froakie Nation, huge for
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  Blacksburg having that many people show up the campus
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  back-to-back weekends. This late in the season.
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  Exactly that. This late in the season, the
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  stadium was packed for just about for every hokey game.
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  To get that first Super Regional bid where you were essentially
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  one of the best 16 teams in the country.
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  We had known that all year, but some teams didn't make it
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  examples Florida. And, you know, and subsequently
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  we had a play, the Oklahoma Sooners and sort of the big news
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  that came out early before, the series, even started, was the
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  hammer, which had sort of been a toll, at a rally call, A Team
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  Builder, a boost fun prop, It is ruled by the NCAA.
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  It can't be on the field. Let's see.
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  At this point in time we're about 70 games in and now it's a
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  problem. Yeah, that's a problem.
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  That's a problem. Rattling Bell isn't a problem,
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  but now other teams throughout the country in the Cooper's are
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  using their props. But for some reason to hammer
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  got literally singled out in this instance as being a topic
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  of concern or whatever the hell they wanted to punch you
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  businesses. So whatever bullshit lingo that
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  the assembly uses to justify this shit.
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  And I mean, we, you know, we can Hammer the n-c-double-a all we
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  want to. But my problem is not it's not
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  just the inconsistency of the application of the rules.
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  It's that also there are actually legitimate problems
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  that the NCAA is not dealing with.
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  But this thing that you know, here is a point of emphasis here
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  because it's intimidating to the opponent's.
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  I mean, are we To pull them the turnover chain, or I mean, it's
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  going to stay still have a stupid ass backpack, like the
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  Georgia sleight heads that they get the sport estate still of
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  the stupid backpack. Did they get rid of that?
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  I've watched the Florida state Florida.
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  State should not be allowed to put the spear in the middle of
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  the field anymore. It's just too, it's so scary,
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  it's intimidating. Bunch of baloney, bunch of
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  garbage. Especially when the way it was
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  used, it was never in. It was always pointed towards
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  the Dugout and it was just the Hokies.
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  It wasn't like they were going out there in the middle of the
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  right behind The Catcher And deciding to do it.
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  They were literally so bunch of garbage but they are doing at
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  the plate like if they were brought into the plate or near
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  the batter's box, is one thing. They're they're like pastel on
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  Deck circle like they're closer to the Dugout than they are
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  really pleased. It's just a bunch of garbage but
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  let's let's hit. Let's start game 1.
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  Which was 3:00 the early game but hey, in ESPN2 game
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  nonetheless. You get national attention right
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  there and you know, the loss is 54.
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  Yeah. Watching that game and the a
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  good frame jobs. One thing.
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  A ridiculous asinine frame job should never be called a strike.
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  I don't even care if it's borderline but when legitimately
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  a catcher is attempting to pull it three to four inches back in
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  and it's an obvious pole and you're getting a strike call, I
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  was so pissed at that because it's like that that balls three
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  inches below the knees. Like that's not you can't swing
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  it that it's outside. Well there was one called a
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  three-strike that was about four inches below the zone and 2
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  inches off the plate. It was on the white line.
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  What do you talk about 2 inches? It was only white line, which I
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  think it was out of the dirt. And yeah, you said it pretty
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  much on the white line and then framed as the corn, I was like,
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  what? No But neither here, nor there
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  about that, it took quite a few innings for the bats to get
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  cranked up. You know, they did get cranked
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  up late to cut into that lead, but it was just too little too
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  late at that point. They had there s going in there
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  Aces and eights. You could see, I'll say this,
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  they're number one is probably going to be a guy in a couple
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  years because I think he's a sophomore, don't quote me on
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  that, but you see he had good stuff.
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  He has potential stuff to keep that consistency.
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  Was his problem, I think when he was on, he was on when he had
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  control, he was on. But you know about he'd have
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  outings where he gets plunked a little bit.
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  This is one where he was locked in dialed in early and I think
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  because of the the opposite on our end, we are not doubt in
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  early on the mound and we weren't hitting.
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  And you know, when we look back at this series at the Super
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  Regionals, you can point at the missed opportunities and game
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  one as to why we're not heading home.
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  It's true, but like you said, we had to get rid of, we have to
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  pull our Friday starter in the second.
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  The bullpen did, a great job to keep it closed.
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  And for us, with hit the guy, they're number one, who was, who
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  was pitching good, but then also getting the calls we didn't see
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  any of their Bullpen. We saw him that we saw the
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  closer and the closures, one of the best in the country, guys,
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  95 to 96. And if you take a look at some
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  of the secondary pitches one, Goes down to about 86 and he has
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  a 79 mile an hour or something. I want to say it's maybe a curve
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  but that's who we saw. We saw their best to pictures
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  and when you can't shell and then with the Zone the way it
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  was, it hurts. But like you said Brian, It's
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  54. That's the one that stings you
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  now down 10 facing elimination game to happens.
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  Early afternoon, crowds packed, crowds, Jack and second Pitch of
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  the game, bit of season. Gone.
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  Goodbye. We talked about the the Hammers
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  that I like that. They broke out the air.
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  Hammers for the. Yes they should have got an
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  inflatable him. Yeah, just really drive it home.
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  Absolutely. And you know third inning to run
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  shots from Cross and Hunter and the games five you know
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  basically 0.5 nothing in it looks like it's going to be a
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  cruise but you know Oklahoma to their credit kept.
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  Fighting and fighting and fighting because we get up into
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  the fifth inning, you know, bottom for, they cut the lead to
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  one and then show will comes out answers, gets us back, roll and
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  again, but reality kind of set in we talked about having to use
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  the bullpen in game 1. It happened again in game two
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  and it was Hackenberg who I think he's got the stuff, but
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  you can tell being a younger guy.
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  His arms, not quite there. But to me his stride, his
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  fastball looked fine. He just could not throw a
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  breaking ball to for strike to save his life.
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  So, it had to go to the bullpen again.
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  So, now you got Hurley and Higgins coming in, and now you
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  got, you know, three of your key members of your Bullpen and
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  thrown significant enemies down. Yeah, thrown significant Innings
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  because game one to their credit, they kept you in it but
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  gained two because Oklahoma has battled back, they had to pitch
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  great and her knee pitched on belief Kearney had the probably
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  his best outing of his career. And to me, I think you can say,
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  give him player of the game because if he doesn't keep
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  pitching the way he pitches that game could have been tied late
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  versus a runaway, you know, 14-8 Victory.
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  But it all set up game three in, you know, watching that here
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  first inning, you know, two home runs in the first inning that is
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  not the way you want to start. Again three in a Super Regional.
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  Yeah, you hate me by the 8-ball you hate that, you're giving
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  them confidence with the home runs.
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  It's not just you know that you had an error and you had you
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  know a bloop single driver ban in its to diggers it definitely
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  you know from a mental standpoint kind of already puts
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  you in a position where you feel like you're you're having to
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  tell you to push a little bit, right?
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  Yes. And sometimes that that Is going
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  to hurt you at the play and we saw it hurt them at the plate,
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  especially in the first couple Innings against cave Warden.
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  The redshirt freshman for Oklahoma.
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  No base runners, no hits, he didn't walk anybody.
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  And when you're going in there and it's two nothing, and you're
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  not getting base runners on that, definitely, you can see
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  anyone's ever play baseball. You can see Gear, start turning
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  heads in the in the overthinking starts, but they settled down.
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  The third malinowski. Finally got a hit gotta the the
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  butt of some jokes when he finally gets the hit.
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  And then demartini brings him home, brings the hammer in the
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  third to Tyler ballgame. You feel like, okay we're
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  getting the momentum back, but we give the lead right back in
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  the fourth inning. And, and you brought this up, I
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  think you've texted me while you were down South Boston that
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  those first, he's like the bullpens not there.
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  He's like the that we need her knee.
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  Higgins with them out. You know, we're just, we don't
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  have the gas and you can see it, you know, they start, they kept
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  hitting the ball and what can you do?
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  What would their that? There's not much you can do
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  after that because you had a play, your cards a certain way
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  and you know maybe they should go to five games because clearly
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  the most talented team didn't win this.
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  Yeah. I mean we had a problem we ended
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  up getting Oklahoma while they weren't as talented as Florida.
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  We called them on a hot streak and they certainly played like a
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  team that was on a High Street because even a game where we
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  were hammering it they hung around huh?
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  And your stomach and from a pitching standpoint we
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  definitely did not have our best weekend?
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  No. Not at all.
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  So not at all in the the hanging around and Hanging around is
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  having to use her knee for almost four Innings.
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  Because if they don't hang around hang around and you can
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  use him to, maybe you can bring him back in for two more and may
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  be limited. But you know after they got down
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  so much, it was you have to start swinging even if it's bad
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  pitches because Sunday to me the Zone, wine back up again for
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  Oklahoma. Because there were a couple
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  pictures I saw. Gavin cross was going to be a
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  top ten pick or swinging that you normally don't see him swing
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  it, but when they were getting called Low and outside, he's
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  swinging at the ball because you know, it's going to be a strike.
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  I've got to try to put a bad Omen so, you know, unfortunate,
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  you know, the Super Regional ends in heartbreak but it's the
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  steps. And you said something, what did
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  you say to me? They Brian about.
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  You sent me has come out again, getting eyes on the program
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  today and that's what this is getting more eyes on the
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  program. You're seeing Blacksburg on TV
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  and meaningful games late in the spring.
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  So this is going to this is going to have a trickle-down
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  effect. This is going to matter too long
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  term. This shows that hey we can we
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  get hit with the big boys. If you come here, you can play
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  with big games. You play in big games, you can
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  have a chance to go to the College World Series.
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  You will have eyes on you to where you can potentially be a
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  top ten pick and someone else, I cannot remember the name.
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  Some of those chatting about it today.
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  He's, he got, he's gonna get a second round grade.
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  If you can remember, and you message us, I'll mention you on
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  here. I just can't remember it because
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  I'm getting old but it's also a way of I think it'll show with
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  it. I think shovel was no getting
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  it. I think, is that, okay?
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  But you talked about getting the eyes but it's also money when
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  you make regionals and you make super regionals.
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  It's extra money for those non-revenue Sports.
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  Bone softball. Have the potential to be Revenue
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  Sports. Though, if you are selling
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  tickets, obviously there are you got Network game?
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  Which the ACC Network just is freaking?
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  Shitshow could fix you somebody somebody getting that shit.
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  I mean it's it's tennis, it's so laughable.
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  I mean, it's bad. You I mean I'm not just hold up
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  for Virginia. Tech is putting literally every
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  team in the ACC behind the eight ball against SEC.
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  See and Big Ten? Yeah, impact 12, yes.
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  So somebody's got to fix that. But again, it's a great season
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  for baseball, it's a great season for softballs a great
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  spring season in general. It was a great season overall,
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  you know, probably wants everything over the next 10
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  days. Figure out, with in Omaha,
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  probably going to be the best finish in the Capital.
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  One Clash, which is basically every sport It's every sport
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  counts, you know, probably gonna be our highest finished ever,
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  which is really awesome and it shows you kind of wit Babcock's
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  vision of building it because you're getting to a point now
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  where like the wrestling team is probably going to be self funded
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  in a couple of years. If the baseball team is softball
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  team, keep it up. They're probably gonna be close
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  to self funding themselves in Brian.
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  If these non-revenue Sports become self-funded, where does
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  the extra money get to stay? The Foosball de fútbol, unless
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  it's nothing in. Let's talk some football here.
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  Brian, because over the weekend, had a pretty big commitment.
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  Highest-rated guy on the class so far, late ganam organum.
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  However, you pronounce it. Somebody knows the exact
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  pronunciation where you can find it, please let me know but the
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  65 280-pound offensive, lineman out of Charleston.
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  West Virginia, who is the number one player in West Virginia.
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  And I'm borderline. Four-star, had 24/7 with offers
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  from NC State obviously, West Virginia, North Carolina,
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  Indiana Wake Forest, South Carolina.
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  Nice offer list. What's the tape showing on this
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  guy? Cuz he seems like he's already
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  got the size and it's not going to take much to put on to be
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  ready for a D1 play. Yeah, good, good offer list.
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  Good size. What I like about him is he's
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  got a It is he's a guy that finishes plays, he's definitely
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  an interior offensive lineman he's got somebody that can be
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  kind of a swing guard tackle. Just he had some tape where I
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  got to see some one-on-ones and definitely not the said he needs
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  for to be that swing type player.
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  But definitely going to be a solid guard.
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  I think as he moves along in his career, got to get about 15 20
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  pounds on him but I think he's going to Do solid at the
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  position. I like what I see from him both
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  in past Pro and run blocking. Like I said, good voter, but
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  he's got uses his hands. Well, impasse Pro, good, punch,
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  and good recovery. If if there's a good first move
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  by the defender there. So you know we'll see what comes
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  of him as he works his way through next season.
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  Once we get past Signing Day, I like the pick up.
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  Like I think you said your friends friends for star player.
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  He was a four-star for a few days composite for star for a
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  few days and then it all of a sudden he drops back to with
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  three investigated. The so idea.
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  So I don't know what change but I do know that you know Rivals
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  has him as a mid three-on-three has him as a four-star and 24/7
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  has a high three ESPN has the ranking on him, but that's not
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  shocking because ESPN is, I don't know what the fuck they're
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  doing with the. They need to take them out of
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  the composite. How are you?
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  The number one, pretty much consensus player in a state and
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  you don't have a real have arranged an ESPN, just needs to
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  take them out of the composite first, if they start getting
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  their act together, do their own.
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  I mean, we should get on three of their know, so you still get
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  three data points. So, you still have a solid
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  Trifecta of data points with exactly.
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  I mean also with with This, when it's Joe Rudolph, first people
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  in show your dolls. First, big Way Joe Rudolph of
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  win against With a player that is being heavily pursued.
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  I mean, you can say you know, Hans Hammer was in that somewhat
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  in that category, but lace definitely in terms of major
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  regional players all on board. Yes, they were you the guy, you
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  had West Virginia. He had UNC at NC State.
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  I can't remember if he had a Penn State offer or not, but I
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  did not. Okay, you're not have that.
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  Had the South Carolina offer though?
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  Yes, South Carolina. But he had his visits lined up
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  so it's a big win for Zhou. Chong Quinn was the was the
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  secondary recruiter on that as well.
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  But that's I think that's something that we all mentioned
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  about Joe recruiting. Like, and it's also a guy who's
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  taken in developed guys into good offensive linemen.
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  So, it's almost like if he's got the nose and he feels good about
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  him. You trust the work, right?
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  Oh yeah, work yeah, yeah, yeah, be.
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  This is a guy. Who's if he likes the player,
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  his hit rate is so high that you're going to.
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  You're going to roll with it. Yeah.
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  As long as it's pretty much not like bottom of the barrel, she's
• 23:12
  although, although he turned a two-star into an All-American,
• 23:16
  he did turn it to starting to all the marriage or so, there
• 23:18
  are success stories like that, obviously the lower, you get the
• 23:23
  hit rate gets smaller but community.
• 23:25
  Joe Rudolph is a guy that can recruit and because he can also
• 23:30
  teach, yeah, it helps his recruiting Because he can sell
• 23:34
  you. Come here, I'm going to get you
• 23:36
  good. Whether you're a 3, star 4 star,
• 23:39
  wherever you are on that chart, you got a chance to make it to
• 23:42
  the next level. If you come play for me on a
• 23:45
  percent and with the commitment their hokey stay 25th in the
• 23:51
  class. So still again, I think well
• 23:53
  above our expectations so forth. This year and it's really good
• 23:57
  because we're sitting better than we thought.
• 23:59
  I think with someone guys that are looking to announce their
• 24:02
  commitment over the rest of the summer.
• 24:05
  I think we're sitting fairly well with a lot of those
• 24:08
  players. Yeah so as we continue to move
• 24:10
  forward I think that it's nothing but good things here.
• 24:14
  I don't know where we're going to end up Landing.
• 24:15
  I think just based on the volume we're taking and kind of the the
• 24:19
  trajectory were on. Now we're at least going to be
• 24:21
  that top 40 top 35 yeah whether we can see Sneak into the top 30
• 24:26
  is going to be the question. I think it's going to depend on
• 24:29
  probably one or two of those those names that are coming
• 24:33
  coming due pretty soon because we got about seven players, I
• 24:36
  think that are looking to commit in the next two to three months
• 24:41
  before they're their season starts.
• 24:43
  They're looking to announce their commitment.
• 24:46
  You look pretty good with one for sure, whether we end up
• 24:51
  getting if we can get four or five of those seven to commit to
• 24:54
  Virginia Tech, then we're looking pretty good as we roll
• 24:58
  into the season and I feel better about saying hey yeah,
• 25:01
  definitely top 35, maybe top 30. If we're lower on that hit rate,
• 25:06
  I'd say, you know, keep it measured top 40 maybe top 35,
• 25:11
  hundred percent. All right, let's put next.
• 25:14
  Let's talk about if you MC didn't read about it.
• 25:17
  I hope you football staff Retreat down the Bristol will.
• 25:21
  First of all, I've never heard of beamer or the Fuente era
• 25:28
  doing this. Ever.
• 25:31
  Yeah, if we are incorrect somebody, let us know in the
• 25:35
  comments. I don't hit us up on Twitter.
• 25:38
  You know she does something let us know if we're wrong here.
• 25:42
  I don't remember this. At least not being.
• 25:44
  You know, well, publicized so release doing better with
• 25:47
  communication if we're not doing better with process, let us know
• 25:51
  what's happening and it seemed like the legitimate almost
• 25:55
  typical, you know, corporate type Retreat because you know,
• 25:59
  it was a Get away, it wasn't like a week-long thing.
• 26:02
  They had a bunch of different activities, the staff got to
• 26:04
  choose what they want to do. Whether it was like, you know,
• 26:08
  golf hiking fishing activities, a plethora of other things so it
• 26:13
  was almost like you're going to get away, but we're also going
• 26:16
  to do some, you know, some things.
• 26:19
  And one of the big things was having Jim Phillips, ACC
• 26:22
  commissioner come in and speak to the guys kind of about the
• 26:27
  the changing landscape of college football.
• 26:29
  I think that was that's pretty big in general right there.
• 26:33
  Hopefully said a little bit about the ACC Network deal.
• 26:37
  Let's hope it gets better. Sorry, this twice we've already
• 26:40
  mentioned that in. Yeah, we're always we're going
• 26:42
  to wait until wait until the season starts, because that
• 26:45
  first night game is going to be on the SEC network.
• 26:51
  Wow. That they were showing Paul
• 26:55
  football, reruns. Y equals a softball tournaments
• 26:59
  are going on in so sorry, softball regionals.
• 27:02
  Baseball Conference tournaments are going.
• 27:05
  Yeah exactly. What the Are you doing?
• 27:09
  We're in our cone this all night and I can complain to because
• 27:13
  you know, I felt like you know, this is one thing.
• 27:17
  But A lot of times when there was games on at the same time,
• 27:22
  they were going to like UNC instead of Virginia Tech with in
• 27:27
  terms of network priority. Yeah, I didn't like that shit
• 27:29
  because you should put the team from the conference that is
• 27:33
  hosting. Yes, in the Indie better
• 27:36
  position. It's true.
• 27:38
  My opinion I'm bias. I'll admit it.
• 27:42
  But, you know I think I've got some logic behind my
• 27:46
  justification there so Yes, you do.
• 27:49
  Yes, you do. But, you know, additional to
• 27:51
  having Phillips there and obviously some staff fun stuff.
• 27:55
  Also had a motivational speaker. Brian, were you shocked when you
• 28:00
  read, one of the first things that this motivational feature
• 28:03
  discussed was relationships because Jesus, Brent,
• 28:07
  relationship, cry, putting his nickname.
• 28:12
  Yeah, I mean, it's all about relationships and I mean, we're
• 28:15
  seeing some of the proof in the pudding so far.
• 28:17
  So and let's be honest, regardless of anything else.
• 28:23
  That happens and anything else that Brent Pride does?
• 28:28
  You can lose looked at the previous regime.
• 28:31
  We saw how fracture those relationships were, yes.
• 28:34
  So when loser draw, he's going to end up leaving this program
• 28:40
  better than he found it because we're at least going to be
• 28:43
  sitting in a position where We know that the coaches in the
• 28:48
  high schools in Virginia, trust, what's happening in Blacksburg?
• 28:52
  Now a relationship sample and I think that that's a better
• 28:56
  building block for you know, whether prai has long-term
• 29:00
  success at Virginia Tech or whether the 10 years is in the
• 29:04
  same ballpark as Fuente and we're looking in doing this
• 29:06
  thing again in five or six years.
• 29:09
  Again, regardless of how that is.
• 29:11
  I like where we're sitting and where we're heading in the
• 29:13
  direction that the program is taking right now.
• 29:18
  Then I have in a while so but didn't that you mention it right
• 29:23
  there. The other thing they had the
• 29:24
  speaker talked about was trust, which is Big because like you
• 29:27
  said, they're laying trust in the programs around the
• 29:30
  Commonwealth and around the region about what we are.
• 29:33
  As a you know, as a football program.
• 29:36
  The last piece was interesting though and I hear this and it
• 29:41
  makes me think corporate but it talked about one of our best
• 29:45
  practices and teaching. You know, to have a motivational
• 29:49
  speaker come in and talk about that because that is something
• 29:52
  as football coaches, that sometimes don't get through.
• 29:56
  Some guys are great on a whiteboard, can draw up amazing
• 29:59
  place but man, actually, show kid what to do?
• 30:04
  They're not good. So I said interesting.
• 30:07
  Yeah, I think the two things I'm thinking of like, Was what
• 30:12
  they're talking about. Was it based on leg?
• 30:16
  Differentiation of instruction and growth mindset.
• 30:18
  Was that was that kind of the type of like filtering that
• 30:21
  through football. Like I mean those are definitely
• 30:26
  heavy Bud, were the buzzwords in the education and teaching
• 30:29
  Fields is from you. So, if that's something that
• 30:33
  they were talking about how you gotta, you know, what's the best
• 30:37
  way to get to people that learn differently or people?
• 30:41
  They need different levels of motivation to get out of them.
• 30:45
  What? Their ability is right?
• 30:48
  And then focusing on, you know, the building blocks with with
• 30:52
  the the growth mindset, you don't have to reach your goal
• 30:55
  right now, but need to win today.
• 30:59
  Get get better today. Focus focus on that and go once
• 31:03
  the one day at a time, one step at a time until you reach your
• 31:06
  goal and keep that goal in mind. But you got to attack it every
• 31:10
  day that like you're going to achieve it or you're not going
• 31:12
  to get there on a scent. One other thing he kind of
• 31:15
  mentioned I want to get this kind of pulled up.
• 31:18
  And back from your playing days down at Sydney he talked about
• 31:22
  he did this also because he wanted everybody on the same
• 31:25
  page same page same narrative, same language same messaging
• 31:29
  when dealing with the team and I'm also going to thank probably
• 31:32
  dealing with all these camps and all these recruits coming
• 31:35
  through. Why is it so important,
• 31:38
  literally? Because he took the whole staff,
• 31:39
  this wasn't just like he took the 10 coaches on field and some
• 31:43
  gaas. Legitimately, if you saw the
• 31:45
  group photo, it was like if you are in the Building and doing
• 31:49
  something with the football program, you went to this, if
• 31:53
  we're going, if your own payroll at Berryman, you're there.
• 31:57
  If you actually get a check for the from the football program,
• 32:01
  you were there and it's important.
• 32:03
  Absolutely, it's important. And I mean, we talk about all
• 32:09
  the time you having consistent messaging.
• 32:11
  That's what they're talking about is having consistent
• 32:13
  messaging from every coach, every member of the staff, when
• 32:18
  you go Someone, you know that if you ask them a question, go to
• 32:22
  the next person, ask them a question.
• 32:23
  You're getting the same response and that breeze professionalism
• 32:29
  across your department that breeds professionalism across
• 32:32
  your program and that means that everyone is also accountable and
• 32:37
  dependable on these areas, right?
• 32:40
  That's the expectation. He so he setting an expectation
• 32:43
  that if you're a part of this program, you've got to talk and
• 32:47
  understand. Be able to speak on a lot of the
• 32:50
  things that these coaches do and if you can't, you need to know
• 32:54
  exactly who to send them to and what to ask them.
• 33:00
  And I think that's important in terms of in recruiting that's
• 33:03
  important in coaching that's important in, you know,
• 33:06
  nutrition that's important. In making sure that you're doing
• 33:09
  the right things with treatment to keep your body, right?
• 33:13
  It's top down, man. It's awesome.
• 33:17
  It's awesome to see things like this, it being publicized and
• 33:20
  then to not just publicize in a picture because you can always
• 33:24
  publicize a picture, not see much behind, but then actually
• 33:27
  sing what we did while we did it, who showed up, what we
• 33:32
  talked about. Again, the doors are open and
• 33:34
  back to the program is such a big thing and then in speaking
• 33:38
  of opening, like talking about things, you know, DJ Sims, who
• 33:41
  went into the portal was announced, he's no longer on the
• 33:44
  team, he Still own scholarship at the school for the upcoming
• 33:48
  school year, but it's, um, it's I don't know the rule, exactly.
• 33:54
  But basically, he can be a student Beyond scholarship.
• 33:57
  Not counted against the scholarship.
• 34:00
  Apparently, Lincoln Riley, did it with like ten players if a
• 34:04
  player medically retired or decides to no longer play
• 34:07
  football, they can remain on scholarship at that school and
• 34:11
  not count against. Yeah, that the scholarship
• 34:14
  number for the program. Now and basically, you know,
• 34:17
  probably just said he came to me and just kind of said, you just
• 34:20
  didn't want to play football badly anymore, and I know that
• 34:23
  can happen. We've seen it happen with tons
• 34:25
  of guys, even more highly touted guys than DJ Sims, that they get
• 34:30
  there and it's the amount of work right to put in to be a
• 34:34
  division 1 athlete. It's an absolute.
• 34:36
  I mean, just think as a division three player it was an absolute
• 34:39
  grind. I can only imagine at the
• 34:42
  division, one level, what type of grind.
• 34:46
  Use, especially for guys that are playing multiple years,
• 34:49
  especially for guys that you have other things on their plate
• 34:52
  as well. Yeah, so yeah.
• 34:55
  So that's the way the direction went with DJ and then finally,
• 35:00
  you know, Richard Purnell, he commits to Liberty just the
• 35:04
  other day. I'm glad he did land somewhere
• 35:10
  rather quickly just, you know, him?
• 35:12
  Yeah. Good for him.
• 35:13
  I mean that's that. If you if you want to stay in
• 35:17
  stay and you doesn't work out at a power 5 program.
• 35:23
  I mean, right now, Liberty or ODU, or probably the places you
• 35:27
  want to be in terms of whether you want to stay there for four
• 35:30
  years or whether you want to give it a one or two-year shot
• 35:33
  and then, you know, transfer, get the transfer portal to get
• 35:37
  back on the power 5 level. Yeah.
• 35:40
  Because those, those schools are still in showcase games every
• 35:43
  year. Yeah, they are you get you your
• 35:45
  TV time? Get eyes on you, we still don't
• 35:47
  know. The reason why I know we'd love
• 35:51
  to know, but we don't know why right now, but it look like
• 35:55
  Pride talk with Lauren Johnson out of Highland Springs, and a
• 35:59
  path was given to keep his spot. But it didn't happen and they
• 36:02
  release some of his Loi. That's something.
• 36:04
  They did not have to do. Yeah.
• 36:06
  It could have literally set on that thing until the end of
• 36:10
  Until August when he has to enroll but they didn't they did
• 36:13
  the right thing early. So what's once whatever?
• 36:19
  Thing was not that she or like, all right, well, you go do what
• 36:22
  you need to do, you find? You're free to do that and not
• 36:26
  and I, you know, you can you can criticize prior, you can
• 36:29
  criticize the situation, but I think overall, you know, you
• 36:34
  always want to get a guy from Alice Springs on your team, but
• 36:37
  if there are certain things that whether it's the university not
• 36:40
  allowing or whether it's just a level that you need your players
• 36:45
  to perform at all the field. Or, or whatever it is, you know,
• 36:52
  you can't make exceptions or at some point, you know, the rule
• 36:57
  doesn't matter or absolutely. If there were things that go on
• 37:03
  and things weren't met, you have to stand on your laurels on that
• 37:07
  because you start breaking them left and right for certain
• 37:10
  players and certain things. Then what are your what are you
• 37:13
  resting on anyway so you don't lose your what locker room with
• 37:17
  planks. That's the thing.
• 37:19
  So why did I get it in, man? Like I said, it is what it is?
• 37:24
  Yeah. I wish we shall Prevail nothing
• 37:25
  but the best in anyone pretending that this isn't a
• 37:29
  blow for the Hokies is probably getting themselves in his blood
• 37:34
  because he was underrated, he was an unwilling, we got rated,
• 37:37
  he was underrated and I think, you know, we talked about him
• 37:41
  being a tweener in that hurting his overall ranking, you know,
• 37:44
  if he did, if he did end up in a three technique, I think he
• 37:46
  would have been all right with us.
• 37:48
  Played at that level, and that's an easy position this year and
• 37:54
  next. So you know, thankfully, we've
• 37:57
  got some other guys coming in. Hopefully the young guys will
• 38:00
  show out and we're able to shore up that position group, but it's
• 38:05
  definitely going to hurt for sure.
• 38:07
  Absolutely. Alright.
• 38:09
  So we got to talk about this because I thought he was in the
• 38:13
  Hall of Fame, but he's not. So Corey Moore, the man who
• 38:19
  coined the Terrordome back in 1999.
• 38:23
  He's not in the College Football Hall of Fame.
• 38:25
  He is eligible again this year And I'm sitting here wondering
• 38:32
  how, how ready drumroll here your credentials?
• 38:36
  He played two years of division. One football in those two years.
• 38:43
  31 sacks, including 17 and one season which broke the Big East
• 38:47
  record. He was a second and 13,
• 38:52
  All-American in 1998. In 1999, he one-upped it, he
• 38:57
  went and he was eight unanimous All-American.
• 39:02
  Also, in both those years, he was the Big East defensive
• 39:05
  player of the year. One of those years it was
• 39:09
  unanimous it was the first time it ever happened in the 10-year
• 39:13
  the 10 years of that conference at that point in time and you go
• 39:16
  back and think about it, that was a conference where Warren
• 39:19
  Sapp and some of the best defensive players down at Miami
• 39:22
  played, not counting, some of the guys, at Tech.
• 39:26
  In 99. And if you're at Virginia Tech
• 39:29
  Guy, you already know this. But just to make the case, he
• 39:33
  won the Nagurski, he won the labardi.
• 39:35
  He was football. Team uses defensive player of
• 39:37
  the year. How on God's green earth is
• 39:41
  literally a stretch of football and two years, where somebody
• 39:45
  does that not Hall of Fame Worthy?
• 39:50
  it's not, I mean, there's no way how he's not Already in the
• 39:58
  whole thing is a seaman. Just 9899 Malone's.
• 40:04
  I mean it's it he played him season because he was a junko.
• 40:08
  Yeah. You sit here and you and then
• 40:13
  well a the sound bites and the way he played.
• 40:19
  He literally was a Madman on the field.
• 40:23
  It wasn't like he was sitting here, you know, taking perfect
• 40:26
  angles. He was literally trying to rip
• 40:28
  people's heads off. And you know if you ever want to
• 40:32
  see something funny, a lot of you hokey fans do this, that the
• 40:35
  presser at the Sugar Bowl in the national championship is still
• 40:39
  one of the funniest pressers of all time.
• 40:43
  Of all time. So whoever you are out there,
• 40:46
  writers Get right. Put the man in the Hall of Fame.
• 40:50
  He deserves to be there because he is literally one of the best.
• 40:56
  Defensive ends all time in college football no doubt, no
• 41:02
  doubt. All right, we're going to
• 41:04
  mention this real quick for those who haven't seen it.
• 41:09
  July 18th, Hardy would part Craft brewery at West Creek out
• 41:15
  here in the West End of Richmond, the tailgate tour
• 41:18
  continues. Coach Brent pry from five to
• 41:21
  seven will be there. I'm going to assume it's going
• 41:23
  to be some other players or some other probably someplace.
• 41:26
  Is it that point probably some coaches will be their tickets
• 41:31
  already purchased on in? I think me and Brian were
• 41:35
  wondering a couple months ago. We saw our friends in Northern
• 41:37
  Virginia and some people down at the beach.
• 41:39
  Getting it's like what the hell is he coming to Richmond?
• 41:42
  Jesus Christ. This is where they brew the
• 41:43
  Hokie beer. Yeah, we figured it was going to
• 41:47
  come back around and it did and it said Hardy would, which makes
• 41:51
  sense? And I'm excited for a man
• 41:54
  looking forward to it. Looking Forward to hearing
• 41:58
  things that, you know, a little little bit further than what
• 42:01
  we're getting some of the media clips, and meet and greets, and
• 42:04
  all that stuff, and just being around other fellow keys and
• 42:08
  having something to cheer about I think is going to be nice.
• 42:11
  Yup. So it's 20 bucks for attendance.
• 42:14
  You do get two free drinks and they're going to have light
• 42:17
  food, which if you've ever done any sort of the Hokie club
• 42:20
  stuff, any locations, it's usually like that.
• 42:24
  And usually, the be very high This one of the cool things
• 42:27
  about going to these events is usually have access to the
• 42:31
  coaches. Take a look at my Twitter
• 42:34
  picture. It will Bud Foster.
• 42:36
  I met him at one of those Eco event.
• 42:37
  Talk to him five or six minutes. Probably a little bit too long,
• 42:41
  but yeah, Curtis going along in the conversation.
• 42:46
  Never hey, I met coach cab to coach a, they should like invite
• 42:51
  coach calf to all these events. So he can just roast other teams
• 42:54
  and make fun of other players. So he's a great one.
• 42:58
  All right, when they they're not coming to Wilkesboro rob.
• 43:03
  You just need to get us a report on that cross town rival yours.
• 43:10
  What's his name? Brian.
• 43:11
  King us with Cayman Smith, we we're going to get some
• 43:15
  detailed. We're going to some detailed
• 43:18
  reporting on Caitlin Smith when coach Robbie Compton defense has
• 43:22
  to go against that kid on the other line that you see here, we
• 43:25
  want to find Would they are playing and bring him in, on
• 43:28
  that Sunday to kill us. All right, Ron before we jump
• 43:33
  into the big piece tonight which is the the brain fry, the
• 43:38
  interview the quotes and stuff from a couple weeks ago as we
• 43:42
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• 43:45
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• 44:13
  Now back to the episode. All right Braun.
• 44:16
  So let's kick this. It was an interview was about 12
• 44:20
  days ago. Now we're you know we looked at
• 44:24
  Andy bitters, info a lot. Of the guys had stuff, but let's
• 44:28
  start with this one on the defensive side of the ball.
• 44:32
  Braylon Moore has moved to the offensive side of the ball.
• 44:36
  About. Damn time.
• 44:39
  Are you shot? Not shot.
• 44:41
  Not shocked about not shot. And the love with Brent price
• 44:46
  said about it. You know, he talked about, he
• 44:50
  can be a good defensive tackle which he can.
• 44:54
  But then he went that, I love the step when he said but he can
• 44:58
  be an all-conference offensive lineman.
• 45:00
  Yeah, I think that's the big thing that we're seeing is that
• 45:05
  you know as prize getting a feel for what these kids can do he
• 45:09
  see all right, this guy might be able to help us more here.
• 45:13
  This guy like you to help us more there and not just us.
• 45:17
  This guy might be able to Excel and maximize his potential here
• 45:22
  or there. And I think That's the biggest
• 45:25
  thing because you know yeah when you have depth issues like we
• 45:29
  have a defensive tackle which we also have them on all the July
• 45:31
  to. So you know, it's probably going
• 45:35
  to pay Paul here but when we're looking at, we're looking at
• 45:41
  this situation, it's about getting guys into positions
• 45:44
  where they can be their best regardless of where those holes
• 45:47
  are in the roster because You know, you can plug you can, you
• 45:51
  can find a guy in a portal or you can you know, have a guy
• 45:55
  that next man up but you can get a guy that's out of position for
• 46:00
  three or four seasons and they never get to their potential.
• 46:04
  You've wasted that yes you didn't get guys where they can
• 46:07
  be their best and then you figure out how to fill in those
• 46:11
  holes if you need to. And I feel like that, that's
• 46:13
  what he's going for here. Yeah 100%.
• 46:16
  It's a great way to put it there.
• 46:18
  Braun you you deal with the deal with the whole if a guy can be
• 46:23
  significant just better but significantly better at one
• 46:26
  position in the other like you said damn the torpedoes like
• 46:30
  we're putting them on all offensive line could he help us
• 46:32
  on the defensive line? Yeah but he can really really
• 46:35
  help us on the offensive line. Now speaking of the defensive
• 46:39
  line the comment about pain in his versatility.
• 46:42
  I got a little bit shocked by that because he talked about Out
• 46:45
  good pass rusher and all this but when he mentioned that he
• 46:50
  thinks he has the potential to slide inside on passing Downs.
• 46:54
  I mean if that's the case that is a win-win for the defensive
• 46:58
  line on both the edge and the interior yeah let's just be a
• 47:03
  little bit, little bit more pass rush focused when we go into
• 47:08
  those nickel packages without really losing something.
• 47:11
  Yeah, I think that's that's going to pay some.
• 47:14
  Do it is because we are Earth in all that d-tackle position this
• 47:19
  year. So anybody that can give us some
• 47:22
  snaps even if it's only, you know, two or three, a series,
• 47:26
  right? Like if anybody blow can help
• 47:30
  here. So I think that's going to be
• 47:31
  something that's going to be big for us.
• 47:33
  So I like that, I'd like interested to see how paying
• 47:37
  holds up whether he comes in and immediately takes over
• 47:41
  obviously, Garbodor. If he's going to be more that
• 47:44
  first man, out on the Second line.
• 47:46
  It's going to be interesting to see how that that shakes out,
• 47:50
  but he's at least going to be on the 2D.
• 47:52
  So look for him to be getting significant amount of steps on
• 47:56
  top of, as we said, they're plugging in and d-tackle at the
• 47:59
  three technique on some of those bigger packages.
• 48:03
  Absolutely. I just when he when he when I
• 48:07
  read about that detached from like that helps so much because
• 48:09
  you got Pollard Kendrick and yet Bowie, you know, they can play,
• 48:13
  you need one more and now You know, DNC same way though
• 48:19
  because you've got Garbutt the known entity.
• 48:22
  Everybody likes Cole Nelson and feels like he could be the
• 48:25
  Breakthrough guy this year but there's just not enough on the
• 48:29
  end. It's just not enough on the
• 48:30
  defensive line in general. I mean, you know, I'd love to
• 48:34
  see something in the next few weeks, you know.
• 48:36
  Yeah. I mean, I think it feel decent
• 48:38
  about the too deep like you got garbage.
• 48:40
  He's a pretty good player for us.
• 48:43
  Yes, he is. And, you know, you got the
• 48:45
  potential of Pain Griffin can give you some stuff and I think
• 48:49
  we're seeing cold Nelson come along.
• 48:52
  Who's going to be that five? In that six that are going to
• 48:54
  get those, you know, about 10 steps a game that are going to
• 48:58
  make or break. Whether you can hold up, right?
• 49:01
  It's true. So that that's going to be the
• 49:03
  question mark. I think.
• 49:04
  I think we're going to be be okay, those first two lines,
• 49:08
  both at Deanne and d-tackle. It's going to be those, like I
• 49:13
  said, 10 to a dozen snaps that that Lines going to have to take
• 49:17
  that's going to be the question marker.
• 49:19
  Are they going to be of the give us enough to hold up?
• 49:22
  Yeah, it's also wondering can see j.mccrary come up a little
• 49:26
  bit more, just a little bit more.
• 49:27
  You look good. In the spring question is, can
• 49:29
  he take that step and the same with the nape and they look good
• 49:32
  in the spring? But can they take the steps?
• 49:35
  But like you said, Brian, if you tell us McCray and Pinay, yeah,
• 49:40
  that didn't mean to make that rhyme.
• 49:41
  But it did. If you can give you can like you
• 49:44
  said, just steal a Snap here. Here they're saying, let's
• 49:48
  happens to be over there and just being effective.
• 49:52
  Not, you know, not necessarily blowing the doors off.
• 49:56
  Somebody, the being effective good technique, you know whether
• 50:00
  it's causing disruption holding down, you know, holding up a
• 50:05
  blocker. That's it still has a little
• 50:08
  things as the game of inches that's going to be Sookie.
• 50:11
  Now, speaking of games of inches in the linebacker room, seems
• 50:16
  like Brent problems Dax to lose some inches and get a little bit
• 50:20
  leaner and lose a little bit of weight over the next couple
• 50:23
  months here. Yeah, looks like he wants to
• 50:26
  actually drop as much weight as he can.
• 50:29
  Which I mean Yeah, that's going to be interesting to see how
• 50:34
  that shakes for him. In this system, having a lean
• 50:38
  and fast linebacker is more important.
• 50:41
  Even at a meeting that Mike. So you know, that's probably the
• 50:46
  move at this point especially since we don't know, whether Dax
• 50:50
  is going to be our best option at that position or not.
• 50:54
  Yet, it seems like, you know, we talked earlier about Keyshawn
• 51:02
  artist sliding in there that, you know, He wasn't quite there
• 51:07
  from a leadership standpoint even though he was at least at
• 51:12
  or near dax's level in terms of on-field play.
• 51:16
  So it's going to be interesting to see if there's a rotation
• 51:19
  there, what that looks like. But I think a later Dax is
• 51:24
  better because I'd rather Dax Dex is shown me that he
• 51:29
  struggles sometimes shedding blocks whether he's at the way
• 51:34
  he was last year or at the lady was two years ago in 2020.
• 51:39
  So I think I will take the leaner and faster Dax who can
• 51:44
  potentially get to the edge, get to the outside, run sideline to
• 51:50
  sideline a little bit better because he's probably going to
• 51:54
  have to have those questions. Those head scratcher, please.
• 51:58
  Regardless and and that's that's just I think the player that he
• 52:02
  is at this point. We'll see if he can raise his
• 52:04
  game up under Pride under Marv. But yeah I would say a my
• 52:11
  expectations so I think the Winger the better because it
• 52:14
  gives him a little bit more. Versatility to make plays
• 52:20
  outside the box. Yep.
• 52:21
  And that's something that brought talked about is like the
• 52:23
  mic in today's game, can't just play inside.
• 52:26
  They also have to be able to arrange and that's why he was
• 52:28
  looking for getting leaner. Now, one guy, we know that can
• 52:31
  range is the projected starter at will, which is Alan Tisdale.
• 52:37
  But one thing about Brown Prowler, finding he does not
• 52:39
  mince words. He's not afraid to openly praise
• 52:43
  or constructively criticize people and he was that way with
• 52:47
  Tisdale. In this interview and it will,
• 52:49
  he talked about basically, hey, you know, when he's on, he's on,
• 52:52
  he really good to be out there for us, but then he talked
• 52:56
  about. But when he's fatigued, he gets
• 52:58
  sloppy, and technique. He, he's just not only good
• 53:01
  players and it kind of in a roundabout way.
• 53:05
  Ryan began discussing where there might be some Sam's
• 53:09
  practicing, it will in the fall. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:13
  I think that's to fold. So I don't necessarily say this
• 53:16
  is processing. Kids losing his job, he did say
• 53:20
  that there's some competition there, right?
• 53:23
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:24
  Yeah. Keller.
• 53:25
  And a couple of the Sams sliding over as well.
• 53:27
  I know you just talked about. So I think you know, there's
• 53:30
  there's some options that we had there but I think what this is
• 53:33
  telling us number one, it's an a nation behind what we've been
• 53:37
  seeing on film for the last three years because we're
• 53:41
  looking and we're saying damn Tisdale will have these plays
• 53:45
  where he looks like the best defender on the field and then
• 53:48
  two plays later, he looks like he's lost or just isn't getting
• 53:53
  to where it needs to be. Like there's there's just so
• 53:55
  many things that were just head. Scratchers that we didn't know
• 54:00
  whether is it effort, is it fatigue?
• 54:03
  Is it not knowing assignment like, Like there were so many
• 54:06
  things that we had question marks on this definitely goes a
• 54:09
  long way. I think towards answering those
• 54:12
  questions about his inconsistent play.
• 54:14
  The question is number one, can he get better clean now in the
• 54:18
  fall because It's not so much, a lot of fatigue.
• 54:22
  I mean a lot of fatigue is mental, right?
• 54:24
  I mean, because I mean, you know, these in shape.
• 54:27
  Yes. I mean he's not going, he's
• 54:30
  going through this with everybody else.
• 54:31
  So, you know, he's in shape. He at some point, there's got to
• 54:35
  be a mental block where when you feel tired, when you feel like
• 54:38
  you can't give anymore, you give a little bit more.
• 54:41
  Yeah. And you got to push their with
• 54:42
  that, that's a mental thing and sometimes it takes I think, I
• 54:46
  think this competition. Is this like culture of
• 54:52
  competition that prize breeding could help with that, because he
• 54:56
  is being pushed beyond that limit consistently.
• 55:00
  You know that given the option to Quinn's, not giving the
• 55:03
  option to not, not get to the line or not, not go through it.
• 55:07
  So it's more than that. So I'm hoping that that type of
• 55:11
  atmosphere is going to help him so.
• 55:13
  But number two, When we talk about other guys getting reps
• 55:18
  and we talked about Sam's getting reps, if you can't get
• 55:21
  to his tail to where you want to be, if you got other guys that
• 55:24
  can go in there and give him some blows, some extra blows
• 55:29
  that he can be fresh for more the game.
• 55:33
  You get a better Tisdale and you don't get as many holes in those
• 55:38
  moments where he's fatigued. Exactly.
• 55:42
  Now, one thing he did say and obviously, Goes to one of
• 55:46
  talking about having the same practice.
• 55:48
  He feels good about the Sands. He feels good about Kiante.
• 55:51
  He feels good about Jr. He feels good about kalai.
• 55:56
  In the thing is, I think me and you talked about the other day.
• 55:59
  Brian Gionta is the best overall, he can do a little bit
• 56:02
  of everything. He can cover, he can Blitz.
• 56:05
  He can play Man, Jr. Safety.
• 56:08
  Probably more coverage. Maybe play a little man,
• 56:10
  collage. You're going to come attack so
• 56:13
  we might be tipping our hands. Let's I'd say you got to give
• 56:16
  tis a blow. You move Kiante over to will and
• 56:18
  you bring loss of him. You might be tipping your hand.
• 56:22
  Hey, we're coming this time because we've got on the field.
• 56:26
  But sometimes that doesn't matter, does it, its execution,
• 56:29
  like, you know, what's going to happen?
• 56:31
  Now, you have to execute against what we're doing.
• 56:34
  Yeah, be 75% of the time. We're bringing an extra man.
• 56:39
  Anyway, anyway, so there's going to be some degree of attacking
• 56:43
  that that's happening. regardless of who's at saying or
• 56:48
  who's at will, I don't necessarily call it tipping your
• 56:51
  hand, but I think he's definitely saying I mean, you
• 56:54
  know, we're coming after you now we're just saying we got this
• 56:56
  specific guy coming after you and you know if I know Lawson's
• 57:01
  coming after me I might get rid of that ball a little bit
• 57:04
  quicker than I'm ready to Just a little bit, just a little bit
• 57:09
  because he's shown how quick he can get there gonna get it's
• 57:13
  like the Walker thing. If you keep Walker out there
• 57:15
  with their, maybe they're just dropping him in the flats or
• 57:18
  some sort of coverage, not Blitzen, but I think how he
• 57:23
  feels about the Sam's, really, really tells you that couple of
• 57:28
  those guys, especially Lawson that He looks at athleticism on
• 57:32
  the field. If you've got some high
• 57:35
  athleticism he's going to find a way to get those guys on the
• 57:38
  field because of the way he likes to attack.
• 57:41
  He values speed and athleticism over some of some of those other
• 57:47
  things that I think the previous regime a evaluating over and
• 57:52
  I'll leave it at that. I think he's looking to get guys
• 57:58
  that are fast that like to hit. And that like to go after the
• 58:02
  quarterback, especially if those linebacker positions.
• 58:07
  There you go. All right, I probably said it
• 58:09
  best so I'll throw it up here. What's that?
• 58:12
  You know what? Skating, it can you stop.
• 58:14
  Can you stop if you know, it's coming, can you stop in a lot of
• 58:17
  teams? Cannot.
• 58:18
  All right, let's go to the room that he said basically he feels
• 58:22
  the best about the defensive back room.
• 58:24
  Talked about the safeties, he feels like there's four guys
• 58:27
  there between Connor. People strowman and Hawkins
• 58:31
  which is great to hear because only one of those guys Guys is
• 58:37
  out this year after this year. And that's Connor.
• 58:41
  So that rooms ready to roll. Not only safety.
• 58:44
  The safety room is in. Good hands, going forward for at
• 58:47
  least the next two to three years.
• 58:49
  So you feel good about that. You got a bona fide leader in
• 58:53
  that room. But you also have you know, one
• 58:56
  guy that's played significant snaps, you've got a guy that has
• 59:01
  played some decent time in his short time here with strowman
• 59:05
  and then you got Hawkins, that's kind of mixed.
• 59:07
  Here are there throughout his time in Blacksburg.
• 59:11
  So you got a really good mix of ability and experience.
• 59:18
  And we of the question is going to be is Connors transition
• 59:21
  going to be a good thing for him will see.
• 59:25
  I think that's the biggest question mark for everybody
• 59:27
  right now with the BBS, but in terms of just experience and
• 59:31
  ability, I feel pretty good about safety.
• 59:34
  Can I say something real quick? Yep, I think if Connor wasn't
• 59:39
  doing a good as job at safety as he could have been down at.
• 59:44
  I had to Sam. I think Brynn, probably flipped
• 59:47
  him. I don't think he would have
• 59:48
  waited her hesitated. If he did, not feel comfortable
• 59:51
  leaving him back at free, safety for field, safety, whatever you
• 59:55
  want to call it. I mean, look how he did the rest
• 59:58
  of the year. He's not been afraid to just
• 59:59
  move guys. Even guys, you're expecting like
• 1:00:02
  Braylon. Yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Mean, you know, Braylon did not have a bad spring and It's of
• 1:00:07
  tackle, he just felt better there.
• 1:00:09
  So I think if he felt better about it, he'd moved it.
• 1:00:13
  Let's talk about the corners. Again, again, a group, he feels
• 1:00:16
  good about with, you know, Chapman and Murray strong, and
• 1:00:20
  Elijah Howard, and DJ Carvey. But he did mention again.
• 1:00:25
  He still wants one more. What what what sort of Why is he
• 1:00:31
  wanting one more and is the one more?
• 1:00:33
  Do you think he hasn't? We haven't seen anybody come
• 1:00:36
  through the portal because it's, he doesn't want one more just
• 1:00:39
  for this year. He wants one more for two to
• 1:00:41
  three years or why is that? Would that would be my
• 1:00:45
  inclination out the gate because I think he feels I've go one of
• 1:00:50
  two ways. So let me let me put a caveat in
• 1:00:53
  there so I think he feels I think he feels good about
• 1:00:56
  chadman, he feels good about strong and he feels good about
• 1:01:00
  Harvey when he's in the slot and I think he is fine with Marie
• 1:01:07
  and fine with Howard or Johnson. Whoever is playing boundary and
• 1:01:12
  field respectively. Okay.
• 1:01:15
  Now I think what he wants is either, he wants a dude, he
• 1:01:20
  either wants to do which, I mean, they're very few of them.
• 1:01:24
  Yeah. And they many people because for
• 1:01:29
  what this unit has an experience, they definitely lack
• 1:01:34
  in terms of high ceiling High Caliber player.
• 1:01:39
  There is not in terms of what they've done so far.
• 1:01:42
  There is not that guy that's had that one season that has said
• 1:01:47
  damn you better watch out for him this year.
• 1:01:49
  Exactly. They're very they're a solid
• 1:01:52
  Solitude of three guys. Another two guys that you feel
• 1:01:55
  comfortable with. There's a lot of good depth but
• 1:01:58
  there's not anybody great on that unit.
• 1:02:02
  So you're looking for a dude, short of a, dude, you want to
• 1:02:05
  find a guy that has two to three years of Eligibility left that
• 1:02:09
  can play in that spot. Either ahead of Murray or ahead
• 1:02:13
  of Howard and Johnson. That, that, that's what I'm
• 1:02:18
  thinking, just because they would like to see a little bit
• 1:02:20
  of a ratchet up with that next man, up there, in case there is
• 1:02:24
  an injury. Yeah.
• 1:02:26
  All right, let's flip over the offense run and, you know,
• 1:02:30
  something that just, I know it jumped out.
• 1:02:32
  At me, it probably jumped out more.
• 1:02:33
  So it's you, he was talking about what you seen on tape
• 1:02:37
  already, Tyler. And Joe, like multiple
• 1:02:40
  formation? Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Yeah. We had a whole lot.
• 1:02:46
  With that with our buddy Robby cup and this plug-in a little
• 1:02:49
  bit here for us but we went through, you know, we like
• 1:02:52
  multiple formations, we like moving tight ends over the field
• 1:02:55
  in motion. We like lining them up, all over
• 1:02:58
  the field. We throw some unbalanced,
• 1:03:00
  formations out there they deploy the tight end, and they use that
• 1:03:05
  to create the mismatches and the areas where they can outflank
• 1:03:10
  the defense. Yeah, and that's the bread and
• 1:03:14
  butter and then they line up and run a play at you.
• 1:03:19
  But it's just but it's just it's just refreshing to hear it
• 1:03:21
  though. Because again, I mean it's like
• 1:03:24
  it's the theme. Probably of the last six months,
• 1:03:27
  it's the things we wanted to hear about and hear somebody
• 1:03:30
  talk about. We're hearing about the things
• 1:03:32
  we see. We're here we're getting some
• 1:03:34
  answers with, especially talking about how Rudolph use those
• 1:03:38
  tight ends, you know, you talking about motioning, the
• 1:03:41
  tight ends. There's a lot of plays.
• 1:03:43
  They like to do that with or he did like to do that with up at
• 1:03:47
  Wisconsin, which you feel like you're going.
• 1:03:48
  To see in the Playbook this year, something else, he was
• 1:03:51
  very adamant about and I think we all feel this as tech fans
• 1:03:55
  and just football fans in general.
• 1:03:57
  He says, they've got to figure out ways to be successful in the
• 1:03:59
  Run game. And, yes, you know, and I think
• 1:04:02
  some of the RPO elements that they're bringing in with the
• 1:04:05
  having 2, or 3 options, whether it be running the ball, or
• 1:04:10
  passing the ball, I think that's going to help alleviate some of
• 1:04:14
  that. I think slight drop off that
• 1:04:19
  we're going to see in terms of offensive line play from this
• 1:04:21
  unit, this year. I think some of the way they
• 1:04:23
  have the offensive scheme will allow us to be more successful
• 1:04:28
  in that. So when I what I say they're I'm
• 1:04:30
  thinking like so think of UNC UNC for all their great skill
• 1:04:36
  players, everything have a pretty average to below average
• 1:04:39
  offensive line, bad things but they can still it.
• 1:04:43
  When things are click and they can generate yards, they can her
• 1:04:46
  eight points. Yes, they can.
• 1:04:49
  So that's kind of what I'm thinking with this scheme, you
• 1:04:53
  can still generate all things. Even when your offensive line is
• 1:04:57
  advantage that at best average, in some cases us light
• 1:05:01
  liability, right? So we didn't talk about this but
• 1:05:05
  I want to throw this on you. Rudolph has the pedigree of
• 1:05:09
  creating consistently above average to great offensive
• 1:05:13
  lines. One of the system like this.
• 1:05:16
  And let's in let's let's let's project.
• 1:05:19
  A little bit. Let's say in two years.
• 1:05:22
  We're a top 15 offensive line in the country.
• 1:05:25
  What can a system like that doing?
• 1:05:26
  You have a dominant offensive line, where you can completely
• 1:05:30
  dictate the terms? Because when you can just line
• 1:05:33
  up and run effectively, then everything else becomes so much
• 1:05:37
  more dynamic because you still have to stop the run first,
• 1:05:41
  right? As a defense.
• 1:05:42
  That's lonely. That's what you got to do.
• 1:05:44
  You got to stop the run first? So it becomes so much more
• 1:05:48
  reliability and so much harder for the defense to stop.
• 1:05:52
  When you are heavily effective at just lining up and running
• 1:05:57
  your base, running Blaze, like we're going to come at you and
• 1:06:01
  then we're going to sprinkle some of the other stuff in and
• 1:06:04
  by the time you pay attention to what we're doing running at you,
• 1:06:08
  we're under the other stuff and you're going to be completely
• 1:06:10
  off guard and because now all those setups work every time
• 1:06:14
  because they got to honor them. Yep.
• 1:06:17
  All right. Going back to the running back
• 1:06:19
  room. Was it did it interest you to
• 1:06:20
  him talking about that thing? Some running backs might get
• 1:06:23
  play at wide receiver. Not shocked.
• 1:06:27
  Nice Shot. You know, we talked about chance
• 1:06:30
  black but we also think about maybe a brace Duke, my slide up
• 1:06:34
  there if he's not taking a redshirt year this year.
• 1:06:37
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, that's not going to
• 1:06:41
  be, I think a big shocker to anyone listening tonight.
• 1:06:44
  You know, we know, we know chance of black is kind of rain,
• 1:06:47
  Blackshear 2.0, in terms of his skill, set does a Couple things
• 1:06:52
  a little better, does a couple things, not quite as good, but I
• 1:06:55
  think on the whole you can give us that same type of play.
• 1:06:58
  So I wouldn't be surprised seeing him out there.
• 1:07:03
  Just to give our wide receiver room.
• 1:07:05
  I think a little bit more flexibility.
• 1:07:08
  All right. Um, overall he said just feels
• 1:07:12
  really good about the running back room.
• 1:07:13
  He probably feels really good that the running back room.
• 1:07:16
  No longer has double digits in it, to be honest.
• 1:07:19
  Yeah, we went from 12 to 9 now down to six.
• 1:07:22
  I think that's, that's a, that's a nice number that you like to
• 1:07:26
  grab onto great number another room.
• 1:07:29
  He talked about feeling really good about and I think we've Do
• 1:07:32
  this for a while now, but I tend room between Drake between
• 1:07:35
  Gallo. You mentioned, tie teller who
• 1:07:38
  was the I think the vision to transfer in which was very
• 1:07:42
  interesting that he mentioned him had not heard much play
• 1:07:45
  talked about you know obviously we know bombers going to be
• 1:07:47
  doing stuff in Brian's favorite they con right they Qantas
• 1:07:53
  joining the team this summer. He's already there so let's
• 1:07:57
  let's not forget him. Like I said I think he has the
• 1:07:59
  potential to Make some noise and you one just because of the
• 1:08:05
  skill set, he brings and the frame that he brings out the
• 1:08:08
  gate. Yeah, the other pieces we talked
• 1:08:12
  about to we've been looking at quarterback and you know it from
• 1:08:17
  the comments and just everyday everything's played.
• 1:08:19
  You feel like Jason Brown. We feel good about him but he is
• 1:08:25
  just going to have to do a ton to overtake Wells.
• 1:08:29
  Yeah, they had it named the starter but they have been that
• 1:08:33
  unless something significantly changes Wells as the guy.
• 1:08:36
  That's pretty much what Brad Glenn said.
• 1:08:41
  Dallas Texas outline, right? I think so, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:44
  I haven't had a chance to read that yet, but yeah, it was going
• 1:08:47
  to say, Brad said a lot talked about running.
• 1:08:51
  What probably 8 to 10 times, but not all of them be in designs.
• 1:08:57
  Yeah, he said he said, you know, somewhere between nine and
• 1:08:59
  eleven rushes for my quarterback.
• 1:09:02
  You know, game getting 60 to 80 yards but probably a third to a
• 1:09:08
  half of those are not designed. Yeah, Yeah.
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  So basically we're going to have some design with the other ones
• 1:09:14
  are just going to be breakdowns and teaching guys when it breaks
• 1:09:17
  just go not six, not 60 but six sometimes it's all you need is
• 1:09:23
  six and eleven times. Some rpos have a quarterback
• 1:09:26
  Rush element in them. So you know, that's usually the
• 1:09:29
  third option in some, in some cases you may you get, you get
• 1:09:33
  the design run, you get the quick pass out and, you know,
• 1:09:37
  sometimes depending on the design, there's an option for
• 1:09:40
  that. Quarterback to to take off
• 1:09:42
  depending on what reading is. So, That might be anyone you
• 1:09:47
  call that a design run when you call that her, something
• 1:09:51
  different but what could be a scramble but still look.
• 1:09:56
  Designed like if it's going to be a RPO and you're gonna have a
• 1:09:59
  hard slander hard what a hard book or something and it's
• 1:10:02
  covered perfectly. Well you know, you see it, read
• 1:10:06
  eyes up but then they immediately run.
• 1:10:09
  It's just like, oh, that's an RPO designer on.
• 1:10:12
  It's like no one. The slant was taken away.
• 1:10:14
  The guy came and took it away. Way he immediately when he
• 1:10:17
  didn't see if he knew he just had to take off.
• 1:10:20
  I like what you've you, we were talking about what the
• 1:10:23
  quarterback room is and your what you said, it summed up my
• 1:10:28
  thoughts perfectly sir. Go ahead.
• 1:10:30
  Yeah, so you know we're comparing Grant Wells to a
• 1:10:33
  Toyota Camry everybody. Not flashy, not not the biggest
• 1:10:39
  name on the list in terms of what you'd like to have, but
• 1:10:43
  it's well equipped. It's got all the stuff you need.
• 1:10:45
  It can make The throws. And it'll get you where you
• 1:10:49
  going. And I think I saw him look giddy
• 1:10:53
  up in the six of them. Yeah.
• 1:10:54
  Yeah. You're not going to, you know,
• 1:10:57
  drop out on the interstate when you try to try to pull out in
• 1:11:01
  the in heavy traffic, you'll learn you'll be able to get up
• 1:11:04
  there pretty quick, but I mean it's not going to it's not a
• 1:11:10
  it's not a Camaro. It's not it's not going to blow
• 1:11:12
  your doors off, man. So it's Not a Corvette.
• 1:11:18
  Exactly. But for the most part, for the
• 1:11:21
  most part, we don't need a Corvette.
• 1:11:24
  You need. You want a Corvette every 1012,
• 1:11:28
  snaps right. There are situations where a
• 1:11:30
  Corvette. Gives you a significantly better
• 1:11:32
  outcome. But for the most part snap to
• 1:11:37
  snap a Toyota is going to give you the same output, exactly?
• 1:11:42
  Alright, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, let's talk about the
• 1:11:44
  whiteout room real quick. You mentioned feeling
• 1:11:46
  comfortable with Smith and Lofton and then kind of saying
• 1:11:50
  he needs more from Blue Gosnell and right.
• 1:11:52
  Does that worry a little bit that?
• 1:11:54
  I mean he came out and said that I'm not worried about that.
• 1:11:59
  I think you're just anyone that has watched the spring game and
• 1:12:04
  go Look to things saw that, you know, it wasn't Blues best
• 1:12:07
  performance and I think some of that was related to the
• 1:12:10
  offensive line play and the fact that Jason Brown didn't have a
• 1:12:14
  ton of time, but also he had that big drop Wide Open Play.
• 1:12:17
  The could have moved the stakes on third down, you got to make
• 1:12:21
  plays like that at the power 5 level, you can't have drops when
• 1:12:25
  it's a chance to move the sticks, and keep your, your
• 1:12:28
  drive alive because every Point matters in certain games, right?
• 1:12:33
  So, We can't have that but you know, I think between what he's
• 1:12:38
  dealing with. Yeah, as he as he came over to
• 1:12:43
  Blacksburg and I don't know if that's still waiting on him and
• 1:12:47
  he's still working through that. But you know, I can obviously
• 1:12:50
  empathize with that situation and understand that, if that was
• 1:12:54
  going on in my life, I probably might not be as focus on the on
• 1:12:59
  what I need to do, as I would undergo normal circumstances, so
• 1:13:02
  I get that and hopefully he's Do that.
• 1:13:04
  Mostly he, he gets to where he wants to because, you know, he
• 1:13:07
  wants to go out and show out. So yes, he does for our sake and
• 1:13:11
  his I'm hoping he's able to get to the level that he can play
• 1:13:14
  it, because we've seen what he can do with the highest level of
• 1:13:18
  his game. So we're hoping he can match
• 1:13:21
  that here, not playing against Power, 5 competition, heavy ACC.
• 1:13:26
  Yep. And again, he's had a couple
• 1:13:28
  good seasons and hopefully being primarily with the ones.
• 1:13:34
  Yes, and then again what happened?
• 1:13:38
  It doesn't it won't leave his mind.
• 1:13:41
  It won't leave his mind. But you hope that's time goes
• 1:13:43
  on, it's not at the Forefront because I think to be very
• 1:13:47
  honest, Jaden blue to have practice in the spring was
• 1:13:52
  amazing. Yeah, happened that that in
• 1:13:56
  itself is so much about him, but hopefully gets in the fall
• 1:14:02
  things a little bit more. Or calm, the kid can show out.
• 1:14:07
  I think the kid can be the stick mover, and we're going to need
• 1:14:11
  him. And I think him playing with
• 1:14:12
  Wells is going to help, not knock on Jason Brown, but I
• 1:14:17
  think playing with Wells is going to help plan being
• 1:14:19
  consistent which a lot of times. That's what it takes, right?
• 1:14:22
  Sometimes you just started getting out there and you're
• 1:14:24
  playing with the same group. Every day.
• 1:14:26
  You run the same route, you're playing the same position
• 1:14:28
  consistency, and you go right into it.
• 1:14:34
  All right, big guy. Let's let's talk about it
• 1:14:36
  because this is the worry point. Oh yeah, Sublime.
• 1:14:43
  And you know when somebody says I feel good about six guys And
• 1:14:49
  you can name five of them. I know the father died in five
• 1:14:56
  of the six that he feels good about and thankfully five is all
• 1:15:01
  you need to start an offensive line.
• 1:15:03
  Yeah, but five and five is not going to make it through a 12 oz
• 1:15:07
  is not going to make it through a power five seats and no, it
• 1:15:10
  will not. So you feel good about Johnny.
• 1:15:12
  We feel good about Katie. Feel good about silos, feel
• 1:15:15
  pretty good about Parker and feel good enough about Jess.
• 1:15:19
  Chuck Hansen, right? Exactly.
• 1:15:23
  You see, when we look at, he said, six, who is the sixth?
• 1:15:25
  And that got my mind. That got my gears turning Heroes
• 1:15:28
  like, right? Let's when I look at the spring
• 1:15:32
  game, the I was there. I watched it again a couple
• 1:15:35
  times afterwards. Jack hollifield is the person
• 1:15:39
  that look, the best on the field that wasn't in that group of
• 1:15:44
  five that I just named. So, he's Jack, hollifield.
• 1:15:47
  The six is it a bob shit? Who did not have a really great
• 1:15:54
  spring game? Is it Daniel Miller chick who
• 1:15:59
  had a up and down spring game? That's the question and I think
• 1:16:07
  it's no I had to put my if I had to put my money in they will be
• 1:16:10
  J. You think it's Jack?
• 1:16:12
  Okay. Yeah.
• 1:16:12
  Because there's no way anybody else because everybody else is
• 1:16:15
  either Walton walk home or true freshman right?
• 1:16:19
  From? Yeah.
• 1:16:19
  Our calculations. Maybe maybe giving you said he
• 1:16:27
  played the best there, but when you mix matching offensive lines
• 1:16:30
  and your mix mash and defensive lines, that's really tough to
• 1:16:34
  see, right? He was with the group that
• 1:16:36
  should have probably best the best.
• 1:16:39
  So, so we'll see what with Johnny was with Silas.
• 1:16:43
  He was, he was with that group. So, you know, whether that you
• 1:16:49
  have having Johnny Jordan, because there is a steep
• 1:16:52
  drop-off at center after Johnny Jordan.
• 1:16:54
  So having Johnny Jordan as your Center makes everybody else
• 1:16:59
  better. I'll take I'll say that 4.4.1
• 1:17:02
  there. If you were if it's from a
• 1:17:04
  spring game perspective of Johnny Jordan was your Center
• 1:17:07
  your offensive line by default was going to be So you take that
• 1:17:12
  into account and look at that, is that logic is performing
• 1:17:15
  better or is Jack performing better because of his ability is
• 1:17:20
  he showing consistency and practice and in scrimmages, when
• 1:17:23
  he's mixed matched with with different players?
• 1:17:25
  That that's what we'll find out. I'm sure.
• 1:17:28
  No. Yeah.
• 1:17:28
  Because we're definitely going to have some point C, at least a
• 1:17:32
  six, probably a seven or an eight linemen that's going to
• 1:17:36
  have to pull some significant duty this year.
• 1:17:40
  So I mean if it's offensive line I mean I played it.
• 1:17:44
  I got dicked up I miss games. We usually had two or three
• 1:17:50
  offensive line. Miss at least one game every
• 1:17:52
  year that's going to happen. So we're going to have to have
• 1:17:56
  at least another guy step up and leave me and hopefully one that
• 1:18:01
  can play tackle because right now maybe Bob shit can play
• 1:18:05
  tackle. He's the six because he can play
• 1:18:09
  tackle. But you talk about getting
• 1:18:11
  nicked up. And again why would why my
• 1:18:13
  people are in this and Hokie Nation or followed by and by he
• 1:18:16
  said it if we have a couple guys get nixed it's sort of the
• 1:18:20
  that's the oh shit moment. Yeah absolutely anything beyond
• 1:18:26
  and interior sorry, anything beyond a guard.
• 1:18:29
  Getting nicked. I'm worried you know.
• 1:18:36
  It's going to be sort of one of those ruff ruff Seasons because
• 1:18:41
  it's going to be like if we go through 12 games and no
• 1:18:44
  offensive lineman have significant or Miss time.
• 1:18:47
  It's a miracle. So go ahead.
• 1:18:51
  Start praying, you know, some stuff.
• 1:18:53
  Go look, I feel like, you know, Jack, maybe Dan can give you a
• 1:18:58
  game. They have a half.
• 1:19:05
  I don't know if a tackle or Center goes down.
• 1:19:07
  I'm worried. I'm very worried.
• 1:19:10
  It left. Unless Jack can complete Center
• 1:19:12
  as well as he can play guard, but I feel like a jacket play
• 1:19:16
  center as well. As you can play guard, he would
• 1:19:17
  have been playing Center in the spring game.
• 1:19:21
  Potentially. All right.
• 1:19:23
  One real quick thing. This is not hokey related Brian
• 1:19:27
  but I just saw this announced earlier today.
• 1:19:31
  The next five years of Army Navy was announced, okay?
• 1:19:35
  And here's a couple interesting ones, they're going to go.
• 1:19:39
  Maybe the first time ever, they're going to play in Boston.
• 1:19:41
  Are in play at Gillette Stadium on the 23rd, 250th anniversary
• 1:19:46
  of the Boston Tea Party and 2023 in, right?
• 1:19:50
  This That I don't know how you get tickets.
• 1:19:54
  December 14th, 2024 FedEx Field. For the 225th Anniversary of the
• 1:20:03
  USS Constitution. I've been told I like that
• 1:20:09
  they're celebrating that I hate that.
• 1:20:11
  It's at FedEx Field Stadium. But From what I've been told
• 1:20:19
  from people that went like if there is ever a gain, you want
• 1:20:22
  to go to. That's not your team's game and
• 1:20:25
  you can get tickets. Go to this one.
• 1:20:27
  If any if any game can make FedEx palatable it's probably
• 1:20:31
  it's probably is this. Alright, anything else broken
• 1:20:35
  and Hokie Nation while we've been here for hours and 21
• 1:20:39
  minutes? Nothing of note, man.
• 1:20:40
  I think we're good to go. All right, well, that will wrap
• 1:20:43
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• 1:20:46
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