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The Best Places to Go in 2026, Part 2 · The Frommer's Travel Show

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  we
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  discussing
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  the
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  best
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  places
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  to
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  go
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  in
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  2026.
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  To
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  help
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  me
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  do
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  that,
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  who
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  is
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  managing
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  editor
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  of
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  fromers.com
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  hello,
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  Zach.
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  Hello.
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  Thanks
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  And
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  I
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  have
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  who
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  is
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  our
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  editor
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  inchief@fromers.com.
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  hey,
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  Jason,
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  what
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  do
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  you
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  know?
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  Hey,
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  let's
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  talk
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  best
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  places.
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  Let's
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  talk
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  best
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  places.
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  Okay,
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  I'm
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  going
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  to
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  start.
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  Let
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  me
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  just
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  recap
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  last
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  week.
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  If
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  you
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  missed
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  it,
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  you
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  should
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  listen.
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  But
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  we
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  talked
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  about
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  Asheville,
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  Patagonia,
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  Azul,
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  which
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  is
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  a
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  new
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  massive
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  park
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  in
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  Argentina
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  that
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  sounds
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  spectacular.
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  Ulu
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  Finland,
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  Kruger
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  national
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  park
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  in
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  South
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  Africa,
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  and
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  Albuquerque.
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  This
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  week
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  start
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  with
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  the
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  only
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  country
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  on
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  the
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  list.
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  And
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  we
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  decided
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  to
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  feature
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  this
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  entire
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  damn
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  country
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  because
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  we
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  wanted
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  to
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  reframe
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  the
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  way
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  people
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  go
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  to
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  Peru
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  in
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  recent
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  years.
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  I
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  mean,
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  probably
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  in
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  the
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  last
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  20
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  years
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  when
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  people
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  have
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  gone
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  to
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  Peru,
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  they've
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  gone
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  for
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  one
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  reason
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  and
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  one
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  reason
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  alone,
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  and
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  that
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  is
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  to
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  see
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  the
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  iconic
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  city,
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  ancient
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  city
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  of
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  Machu
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  Picchu.
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  But
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  that
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  has
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  meant
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  that
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  it's
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  just
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  become
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  over
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  loved
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  and
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  a
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  target,
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  frankly,
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  for
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  anybody
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  who's
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  angry
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  with
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  the
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  government
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  there.
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  There
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  have
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  been
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  a
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  number
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  of
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  actions
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  in
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  Peru
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  that
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  shut
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  down
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  the
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  tourist
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  train
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  that
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  goes
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  to
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  the
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  gateway
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  to
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  Machu
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  Picchu.
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  And
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  so
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  people
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  have
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  been
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  stranded
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  there.
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  Folks
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  have
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  had
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  to
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  change
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  their
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  itineraries
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  at
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  the
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  last
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  minute.
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  It's
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  been
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  kind
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  of
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  a
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  mess.
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  And
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  we've
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  seen
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  these
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  actions
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  many
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  times
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  over
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  the
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  last
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  couple
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  of
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  years.
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  But
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  the
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  truth
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  is
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  Peru
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  is
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  much
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  more
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  than
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  just
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  Machu
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  Picchu.
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  There
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  is
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  so
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  much
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  to
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  see
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  and
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  do
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  there,
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  as
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  our
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  author
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  Heather
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  Jasper,
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  who
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  actually
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  has
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  lived
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  in
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  Peru
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  for
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  many
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  years,
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  told
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  us
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  when
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  she
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  pitched
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  this
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  idea.
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  In
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  fact,
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  there
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  is
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  a
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  place
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  called
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  Penico,
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  which
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  was
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  a
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  city
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  built
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  in
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  1800
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  BC
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  and
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  it
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  just
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  opened
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  to
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  the
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  public
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  in
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  2025.
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  So
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  if
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  you
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  go
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  to
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  see
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  these
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  magnificent
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  ruins,
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  you
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  will
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  be
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  first
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  non
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  archaeologists
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  to
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  see
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  that
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  spectacular
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  ancient
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  city.
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  Even
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  more
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  spectacular,
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  there's
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  a
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  place
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  called
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  Kuelap,
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  which
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  is
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  a
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  fortified
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  citadel.
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  And
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  you
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  actually
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  have
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  to
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  take,
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  you
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  have
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  to
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  take
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  a
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  gondola
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  to
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  get
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  up
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  to
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  it,
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  which
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  Heather
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  says
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  beats
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  the
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  train
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  that
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  you
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  take
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  to
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  Machu
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  Picchu
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  for
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  thrills.
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  It's
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  really,
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  really
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  fun
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  to
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  arrive
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  via
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  gondola.
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  This
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  city
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  is
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  about
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  from
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  500
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  A.D.
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  so
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  Newer,
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  but
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  it's
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  in
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  a
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  cloud
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  forest.
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  It's
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  known
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  for
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  bird
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  watching
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  because
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  there
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  is
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  a
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  really
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  aptly
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  named
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  bird
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  called
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  the
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  Marvelous
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  Spatula
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  Tail
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  hummingbird.
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  I
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  hope
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  I'm
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  pronouncing
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  that
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  right.
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  I
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  can
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  picture
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  a
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  spatula
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  tailed
• 3:53
  bird.
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  Yeah.
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  It's
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  very
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  evocative.
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  Right.
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  And
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  this
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  is
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  the
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  only
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  place
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  to
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  see
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  it.
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  And
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  it
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  was
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  built
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  by
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  the
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  Chachapoya,
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  who
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  were
• 4:02
  mountain
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  people
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  who
• 4:03
  were
• 4:04
  known
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  as
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  the
• 4:04
  warriors
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  of
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  the
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  clouds
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  because
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  they
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  fiercely
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  resisted
• 4:08
  the
• 4:08
  incas
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  in
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  the
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  1470s.
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  Or
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  you
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  can
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  go
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  to
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  a
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  place
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  like
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  Ayacucho,
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  which
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  is
• 4:14
  a
• 4:14
  colonial
• 4:15
  city,
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  where
• 4:16
  you
• 4:16
  can
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  go
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  to
• 4:18
  contemporary
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  artists
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  studios,
• 4:20
  artists
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  and
• 4:21
  artisans,
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  and
• 4:22
  get
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  a
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  taste
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  of
• 4:23
  contemporary
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  Peruvian
• 4:25
  culture
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  that
• 4:26
  way.
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  And
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  go
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  to
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  these
• 4:28
  extraordinary
• 4:29
  ruins
• 4:29
  left
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  by
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  Wari
• 4:31
  people
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  who
• 4:31
  were
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  here
• 4:32
  from
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  about
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  500
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  to
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  900
• 4:34
  AD.
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  There's
• 4:36
  also
• 4:36
  religious
• 4:37
  pilgrimages
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  you
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  can
• 4:38
  make.
• 4:38
  Believe
• 4:39
  it
• 4:39
  or
• 4:39
  not,
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  you
• 4:39
  can
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  see
• 4:40
  where
• 4:41
  Pope
• 4:41
  Leo
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  came
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  of
• 4:42
  age
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  as
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  a
• 4:44
  church
• 4:44
  leader.
• 4:45
  It's
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  place
• 4:46
  called
• 4:46
  Chiclayo.
• 4:47
  He
• 4:48
  was
• 4:48
  named
• 4:48
  bishop
• 4:49
  there
• 4:49
  in
• 4:49
  2015.
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  And
• 4:50
  you
• 4:51
  can
• 4:51
  see
• 4:51
  what
• 4:51
  his
• 4:51
  life
• 4:52
  is
• 4:52
  like.
• 4:53
  There's
• 4:53
  great
• 4:54
  beaches
• 4:55
  to
• 4:55
  visit
• 4:56
  in
• 4:56
  Peru
• 4:57
  and
• 4:57
  a
• 4:57
  lot
• 4:57
  of
• 4:57
  people
• 4:58
  go
• 4:58
  to
• 4:59
  try
• 4:59
  an
• 4:59
  ancient
• 5:00
  form
• 5:00
  of
• 5:01
  surfing.
• 5:01
  It
• 5:02
  was
• 5:02
  this
• 5:02
  reed
• 5:03
  built
• 5:04
  craft
• 5:04
  called
• 5:05
  Caballito
• 5:06
  de
• 5:07
  Totoro.
• 5:07
  And
• 5:08
  you
• 5:08
  can
• 5:08
  actually
• 5:09
  still
• 5:09
  surf
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  way
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  ancient
• 5:11
  Peruvians
• 5:11
  did.
• 5:12
  And
• 5:12
  for
• 5:13
  those
• 5:13
  who
• 5:13
  like
• 5:14
  mysteries,
• 5:15
  there
• 5:16
  are
• 5:16
  what
• 5:16
  is
• 5:16
  called
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  Nazca
• 5:18
  Lines,
• 5:19
  which
• 5:19
  are
• 5:19
  these
• 5:20
  very
• 5:21
  big
• 5:22
  lines
• 5:23
  in
• 5:23
  different
• 5:24
  patterns
• 5:25
  that
• 5:25
  nobody
• 5:26
  knows
• 5:26
  who
• 5:26
  put
• 5:27
  them
• 5:27
  there
• 5:27
  as
• 5:28
  well.
• 5:28
  60%
• 5:29
  of
• 5:30
  Peru
• 5:30
  is
• 5:30
  a
• 5:31
  rainforest
• 5:32
  with
• 5:33
  really
• 5:33
  extraordinary
• 5:34
  biodiversity,
• 5:35
  with
• 5:35
  eco
• 5:36
  lodges
• 5:36
  and
• 5:37
  river
• 5:37
  cruise
• 5:38
  tours
• 5:38
  where
• 5:39
  you
• 5:39
  can
• 5:39
  see
• 5:39
  pink
• 5:39
  dolphins,
• 5:40
  sloths,
• 5:41
  52
• 5:42
  species
• 5:42
  of
• 5:42
  monkeys
• 5:43
  and
• 5:44
  thousands
• 5:45
  of
• 5:46
  of
• 5:46
  different
• 5:46
  types
• 5:46
  of
• 5:47
  birds.
• 5:47
  And
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  course
• 5:48
  there's
• 5:48
  Lima,
• 5:49
  which
• 5:50
  has
• 5:50
  become
• 5:50
  one
• 5:50
  of
• 5:50
  the
• 5:51
  top
• 5:51
  foodie
• 5:52
  destinations
• 5:53
  in
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  world,
• 5:54
  which
• 5:54
  has
• 5:55
  extraordinary
• 5:55
  shopping
• 5:56
  and
• 5:56
  nightlife
• 5:57
  and
• 5:57
  a
• 5:58
  very,
• 5:58
  very
• 5:58
  sophisticated
• 6:00
  contemporary
• 6:01
  scene.
• 6:02
  So
• 6:03
  we
• 6:03
  put
• 6:03
  in
• 6:04
  Peru
• 6:04
  as
• 6:05
  a
• 6:05
  country
• 6:06
  just
• 6:06
  to
• 6:06
  try
• 6:06
  and
• 6:07
  refocus
• 6:09
  people.
• 6:10
  Too
• 6:10
  many
• 6:10
  people
• 6:11
  are
• 6:11
  just
• 6:12
  going
• 6:12
  for
• 6:12
  Machu
• 6:13
  Picchu
• 6:14
  and
• 6:14
  that's
• 6:14
  become
• 6:15
  problematic.
• 6:15
  As
• 6:15
  I
• 6:16
  said
• 6:16
  at
• 6:16
  the
• 6:16
  beginning
• 6:16
  in
• 6:17
  recent,
• 6:18
  it's
• 6:18
  time
• 6:18
  to
• 6:18
  start
• 6:19
  exploring
• 6:20
  the
• 6:20
  rest
• 6:20
  of
• 6:21
  this
• 6:21
  electric
• 6:22
  country.
• 6:23
  I'm
• 6:24
  still
• 6:24
  stuck
• 6:24
  on
• 6:24
  the
• 6:25
  fact
• 6:25
  that
• 6:25
  there's
• 6:25
  a
• 6:25
  gondola
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  this
• 6:27
  ruin.
• 6:28
  Yeah,
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  mean,
• 6:28
  I
• 6:29
  had
• 6:29
  to
• 6:29
  take
• 6:29
  26
• 6:30
  miles
• 6:30
  of
• 6:30
  Incan
• 6:31
  stone
• 6:31
  steps
• 6:31
  to
• 6:32
  get
• 6:32
  to
• 6:32
  Machu
• 6:32
  Picchu.
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  think
• 6:33
  a
• 6:33
  gondola
• 6:34
  would
• 6:34
  be
• 6:34
  preferable.
• 6:35
  So
• 6:35
  it
• 6:35
  sounds
• 6:35
  like
• 6:35
  people
• 6:36
  who
• 6:36
  aren't
• 6:36
  up
• 6:37
  for
• 6:37
  doing
• 6:38
  a
• 6:38
  hike
• 6:38
  to
• 6:38
  Machu
• 6:39
  Picchu
• 6:39
  might
• 6:39
  be
• 6:39
  able
• 6:39
  to
• 6:40
  consider
• 6:40
  these
• 6:40
  places
• 6:41
  and
• 6:41
  they
• 6:41
  might
• 6:41
  not
• 6:41
  have
• 6:41
  Been
• 6:42
  able
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  before.
• 6:43
  Although
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  don't
• 6:43
  have
• 6:44
  to
• 6:44
  hike
• 6:44
  to
• 6:44
  Machu
• 6:45
  Picchu.
• 6:45
  Not
• 6:45
  everybody.
• 6:46
  It's
• 6:46
  either
• 6:46
  you
• 6:46
  hike
• 6:47
  there
• 6:47
  or
• 6:47
  you
• 6:47
  take
• 6:48
  the
• 6:48
  train
• 6:48
  road
• 6:49
  combo.
• 6:49
  That
• 6:49
  is.
• 6:49
  Is
• 6:50
  problematic
• 6:50
  politically
• 6:51
  sometimes.
• 6:51
  Right,
• 6:52
  right.
• 6:52
  What
• 6:52
  did
• 6:53
  you
• 6:53
  think
• 6:53
  of
• 6:53
  the
• 6:53
  rest
• 6:53
  of
• 6:53
  Peru?
• 6:54
  Did
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  see
• 6:54
  other
• 6:55
  places
• 6:55
  as
• 6:55
  well,
• 6:56
  Jason,
• 6:56
  when
• 6:56
  you
• 6:56
  were
• 6:57
  there?
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  was.
• 6:57
  Yeah,
• 6:58
  sure.
• 6:58
  It's
• 6:58
  a.
• 6:58
  It's.
• 6:58
  I
• 6:59
  want
• 6:59
  to
• 6:59
  see
• 6:59
  more
• 6:59
  of
• 6:59
  it
• 6:59
  because
• 7:00
  as
• 7:00
  you
• 7:00
  were
• 7:00
  just
• 7:00
  hinting
• 7:00
  in
• 7:01
  what
• 7:01
  you
• 7:01
  were
• 7:01
  talking
• 7:01
  about,
• 7:01
  it's
• 7:02
  incredibly
• 7:02
  diverse.
• 7:02
  There's
• 7:03
  a
• 7:03
  lot
• 7:03
  going
• 7:03
  on.
• 7:04
  And,
• 7:04
  you
• 7:04
  know,
• 7:05
  we
• 7:05
  talk
• 7:05
  about
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  rainforest,
• 7:06
  but
• 7:06
  there's
• 7:06
  a
• 7:06
  lot
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  coastal
• 7:07
  traditions,
• 7:07
  too.
• 7:07
  There's
• 7:08
  just.
• 7:08
  It's
• 7:08
  a
• 7:08
  groovy
• 7:09
  place.
• 7:09
  And
• 7:09
  I
• 7:10
  think
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  foodies
• 7:10
  discovered
• 7:11
  it
• 7:11
  especially
• 7:11
  about
• 7:12
  10
• 7:12
  years
• 7:12
  ago,
• 7:12
  15
• 7:13
  years
• 7:13
  ago
• 7:13
  in
• 7:13
  Lima.
• 7:14
  But
• 7:14
  the
• 7:14
  rest
• 7:14
  of
• 7:14
  the
• 7:14
  country
• 7:15
  is
• 7:15
  still
• 7:15
  sort
• 7:15
  of,
• 7:16
  you
• 7:16
  know,
• 7:17
  ripe
• 7:17
  for
• 7:17
  discovery
• 7:18
  by
• 7:18
  Americans.
• 7:18
  I
• 7:19
  think
• 7:19
  they
• 7:20
  invented
• 7:20
  ceviche
• 7:21
  in
• 7:21
  Lima,
• 7:21
  didn't
• 7:21
  they?
• 7:21
  And
• 7:21
  the
• 7:22
  Pisco
• 7:22
  Sour.
• 7:22
  There
• 7:22
  is
• 7:23
  a
• 7:23
  great.
• 7:23
  A
• 7:23
  lot
• 7:23
  of
• 7:23
  great
• 7:24
  food
• 7:24
  options
• 7:24
  in
• 7:24
  Lima,
• 7:25
  for
• 7:25
  sure.
• 7:25
  Gosh,
• 7:25
  I
• 7:26
  love
• 7:26
  ceviche.
• 7:27
  I
• 7:27
  wonder
• 7:27
  if
• 7:28
  they
• 7:28
  invented
• 7:28
  ceviche.
• 7:29
  I
• 7:29
  don't
• 7:29
  know
• 7:30
  about
• 7:30
  that.
• 7:30
  Well,
• 7:30
  they
• 7:30
  say
• 7:31
  they
• 7:31
  did.
• 7:32
  They
• 7:32
  certainly
• 7:32
  do
• 7:33
  it
• 7:33
  well.
• 7:33
  They
• 7:34
  certainly.
• 7:35
  Yeah,
• 7:35
  definitely.
• 7:36
  All
• 7:36
  right.
• 7:37
  Our
• 7:37
  next
• 7:37
  destination
• 7:39
  is
• 7:39
  in
• 7:39
  Zach's
• 7:40
  home
• 7:40
  state
• 7:41
  of
• 7:42
  Arkansas.
• 7:42
  I
• 7:43
  am
• 7:43
  delighted.
• 7:43
  We
• 7:44
  have.
• 7:44
  We
• 7:44
  picked
• 7:45
  one
• 7:45
  from
• 7:45
  Arkansas,
• 7:46
  my
• 7:46
  home
• 7:46
  state.
• 7:46
  Been
• 7:47
  working
• 7:47
  on
• 7:47
  these
• 7:47
  since
• 7:47
  2017.
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  don't
• 7:49
  think
• 7:49
  we've
• 7:49
  done
• 7:49
  an
• 7:49
  Arkansas
• 7:50
  one.
• 7:50
  But
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  selection
• 7:51
  is
• 7:51
  Hot
• 7:51
  Springs,
• 7:52
  which
• 7:52
  is
• 7:52
  in
• 7:52
  the
• 7:53
  middle
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  state.
• 7:53
  It's
• 7:54
  about
• 7:54
  an
• 7:54
  hour's
• 7:55
  drive
• 7:55
  west
• 7:56
  of
• 7:57
  Little
• 7:57
  Rock.
• 7:57
  I
• 7:58
  grew
• 7:58
  up
• 7:58
  in
• 7:58
  the
• 7:58
  northwest
• 7:59
  corner.
• 7:59
  We
• 8:00
  thought
• 8:00
  of,
• 8:00
  like,
• 8:00
  Hot
• 8:01
  Springs
• 8:01
  as,
• 8:01
  like,
• 8:01
  the
• 8:01
  Sodom
• 8:02
  and
• 8:02
  Gomorrah.
• 8:02
  Cause
• 8:02
  it's
• 8:03
  the
• 8:04
  resort
• 8:04
  area
• 8:05
  and
• 8:05
  it
• 8:05
  has
• 8:05
  a
• 8:05
  lot
• 8:05
  of,
• 8:06
  like,
• 8:06
  gangster
• 8:07
  history.
• 8:07
  Like,
• 8:07
  Al
• 8:07
  Capone
• 8:08
  used
• 8:08
  to
• 8:08
  vacation
• 8:09
  there.
• 8:09
  There's
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  horse
• 8:10
  racing
• 8:10
  place.
• 8:11
  Bill
• 8:11
  Clinton
• 8:12
  spent
• 8:12
  his
• 8:12
  childhood
• 8:12
  there.
• 8:13
  So
• 8:13
  it's
• 8:14
  this
• 8:14
  great
• 8:14
  resort.
• 8:15
  Not
• 8:15
  in
• 8:15
  Hope,
• 8:16
  I
• 8:16
  thought.
• 8:16
  He
• 8:16
  spent
• 8:16
  his
• 8:17
  childhood.
• 8:17
  He
• 8:17
  was
• 8:17
  from
• 8:17
  Hope.
• 8:17
  But
• 8:18
  then
• 8:18
  when
• 8:18
  he
• 8:18
  was
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  young.
• 8:19
  A
• 8:19
  young
• 8:20
  child,
• 8:20
  like,
• 8:20
  I
• 8:21
  think
• 8:21
  a
• 8:21
  young
• 8:21
  teenager,
• 8:21
  he
• 8:22
  went
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  Hot
• 8:22
  Springs.
• 8:23
  Like,
• 8:23
  that's
• 8:23
  where
• 8:23
  he
• 8:23
  went
• 8:23
  to
• 8:23
  high
• 8:24
  school,
• 8:24
  I
• 8:24
  believe,
• 8:24
  when
• 8:24
  his
• 8:25
  mother
• 8:25
  married
• 8:25
  Roger
• 8:25
  Clinton.
• 8:26
  Anyway.
• 8:26
  But
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  reason
• 8:27
  why
• 8:27
  Hot
• 8:27
  Springs,
• 8:28
  it
• 8:28
  takes
• 8:28
  its
• 8:28
  name
• 8:28
  from
• 8:29
  the
• 8:29
  thermal
• 8:29
  feature.
• 8:30
  It's
• 8:30
  Arkansas's
• 8:31
  only
• 8:32
  national
• 8:32
  park,
• 8:32
  Hot
• 8:32
  Springs
• 8:33
  National
• 8:33
  Park.
• 8:33
  And
• 8:34
  it's
• 8:34
  mostly
• 8:35
  noteworthy
• 8:35
  for
• 8:36
  this
• 8:36
  famous
• 8:36
  thing
• 8:36
  called
• 8:37
  Bathhouse
• 8:37
  Row.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:38
  it's
• 8:38
  a
• 8:38
  string
• 8:39
  of
• 8:39
  historic
• 8:40
  bath
• 8:40
  houses
• 8:41
  you
• 8:41
  can
• 8:41
  visit
• 8:41
  for
• 8:41
  a
• 8:42
  Schwitz
• 8:43
  and
• 8:43
  for
• 8:44
  an
• 8:44
  Asok
• 8:45
  and
• 8:45
  needle
• 8:45
  showers,
• 8:46
  which
• 8:46
  are.
• 8:46
  Those.
• 8:46
  Are
• 8:46
  those
• 8:47
  things
• 8:47
  where
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  shower.
• 8:48
  The
• 8:48
  water
• 8:48
  comes
• 8:49
  at
• 8:49
  you
• 8:49
  from
• 8:49
  a
• 8:50
  whole
• 8:50
  bunch
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  different
• 8:51
  directions,
• 8:51
  you
• 8:51
  know,
• 8:52
  and
• 8:52
  little
• 8:52
  jets.
• 8:53
  You
• 8:53
  can
• 8:53
  do
• 8:53
  those
• 8:54
  things
• 8:54
  where
• 8:54
  you
• 8:54
  sit
• 8:55
  in
• 8:55
  a
• 8:55
  little
• 8:55
  cabinet
• 8:55
  and
• 8:55
  just
• 8:56
  your
• 8:56
  head
• 8:56
  pokes
• 8:57
  out,
• 8:57
  you
• 8:57
  know,
• 8:57
  like
• 8:57
  an
• 8:57
  old
• 8:57
  timey.
• 8:59
  So
• 8:59
  if
• 8:59
  you
• 9:00
  want
• 9:00
  to
• 9:00
  do
• 9:00
  like
• 9:00
  old
• 9:00
  timey
• 9:00
  spa
• 9:01
  services,
• 9:02
  you
• 9:02
  can
• 9:02
  do
• 9:02
  that.
• 9:03
  It's
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  only
• 9:03
  national
• 9:04
  park
• 9:04
  that
• 9:05
  has
• 9:05
  a
• 9:05
  brewery
• 9:06
  on
• 9:06
  on
• 9:07
  park
• 9:07
  grounds.
• 9:08
  They
• 9:08
  make
• 9:08
  a
• 9:09
  great
• 9:09
  IPA
• 9:10
  and
• 9:10
  a
• 9:10
  stout.
• 9:10
  And
• 9:11
  also
• 9:11
  it's
• 9:11
  in
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  Ouachita
• 9:12
  Mountains.
• 9:12
  There's
• 9:12
  great
• 9:13
  hiking.
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  worked
• 9:14
  on
• 9:15
  a
• 9:15
  story
• 9:15
  once
• 9:15
  on
• 9:15
  the
• 9:16
  most
• 9:16
  pet
• 9:16
  friendly
• 9:17
  national
• 9:17
  parks
• 9:17
  and
• 9:17
  it's
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  only
• 9:18
  one
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  few
• 9:18
  where
• 9:19
  every
• 9:19
  single.
• 9:19
  You
• 9:20
  can
• 9:20
  take
• 9:20
  a
• 9:20
  dog
• 9:20
  on
• 9:21
  every
• 9:21
  single
• 9:21
  hiking
• 9:22
  trail.
• 9:23
  So
• 9:23
  it's
• 9:23
  very
• 9:23
  dog
• 9:24
  friendly,
• 9:24
  hike
• 9:25
  friendly.
• 9:25
  There's
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  great,
• 9:26
  there's
• 9:26
  Garvan
• 9:26
  Woodland
• 9:27
  Gardens
• 9:27
  nearby,
• 9:28
  which
• 9:28
  has
• 9:28
  this
• 9:28
  beautiful
• 9:29
  timber
• 9:30
  and
• 9:30
  glass
• 9:30
  chapel
• 9:31
  that
• 9:31
  our
• 9:31
  writer
• 9:32
  Sarah
• 9:33
  Sekuloff
• 9:33
  said
• 9:34
  looked
• 9:34
  like
• 9:35
  came
• 9:35
  from
• 9:35
  Lord
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  Rings.
• 9:36
  There's
• 9:37
  a
• 9:37
  gangster
• 9:37
  museum.
• 9:38
  There's
• 9:38
  just
• 9:39
  a
• 9:39
  lot
• 9:39
  of
• 9:40
  history,
• 9:40
  a
• 9:41
  lot
• 9:41
  of
• 9:41
  quirky
• 9:41
  history,
• 9:42
  colorful
• 9:42
  past,
• 9:43
  a
• 9:43
  lot
• 9:43
  of
• 9:43
  fun
• 9:43
  stuff
• 9:44
  to
• 9:44
  do.
• 9:44
  And
• 9:44
  Arkansas
• 9:45
  is
• 9:45
  just
• 9:46
  a
• 9:46
  beautiful,
• 9:46
  perennially
• 9:47
  underrated
• 9:48
  state,
• 9:48
  in
• 9:48
  my
• 9:48
  opinion.
• 9:49
  I'm
• 9:49
  delighted
• 9:50
  it's
• 9:50
  on
• 9:51
  the,
• 9:51
  on
• 9:51
  our
• 9:51
  list
• 9:51
  this
• 9:51
  year.
• 9:52
  My
• 9:52
  mother
• 9:52
  will
• 9:52
  be
• 9:52
  thrilled.
• 9:53
  Yes.
• 9:54
  It's
• 9:55
  one
• 9:55
  of
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  three
• 9:56
  states
• 9:56
  I've
• 9:57
  never
• 9:57
  been
• 9:57
  to.
• 9:58
  Are
• 9:58
  you
• 9:58
  serious?
• 9:59
  I
• 9:59
  get
• 9:59
  that
• 9:59
  a
• 9:59
  lot.
• 9:59
  A
• 9:59
  lot
• 9:59
  of
• 10:00
  people
• 10:00
  are
• 10:00
  always
• 10:00
  like,
• 10:00
  I've
• 10:00
  been
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  every
• 10:01
  state
• 10:01
  but
• 10:01
  Arkansas.
• 10:02
  And
• 10:02
  sometimes
• 10:02
  people
• 10:03
  just
• 10:03
  go
• 10:03
  to
• 10:03
  check
• 10:03
  it
• 10:03
  off
• 10:04
  a
• 10:04
  list,
• 10:04
  you
• 10:05
  know,
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  have
• 10:05
  all
• 10:05
  50.
• 10:05
  And
• 10:06
  it's
• 10:07
  an
• 10:07
  outrage,
• 10:07
  really.
• 10:09
  But
• 10:09
  I
• 10:09
  was
• 10:10
  stunned
• 10:10
  because
• 10:10
  I
• 10:11
  was
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  one
• 10:11
  who
• 10:12
  picked
• 10:12
  most
• 10:12
  of
• 10:12
  the
• 10:13
  photos
• 10:13
  in,
• 10:14
  in
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  article
• 10:15
  and
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  was
• 10:16
  stunned
• 10:17
  by
• 10:17
  how
• 10:17
  beautiful
• 10:18
  a
• 10:19
  city
• 10:19
  it
• 10:20
  is.
• 10:20
  I
• 10:20
  mean,
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  nature
• 10:22
  areas
• 10:22
  are
• 10:23
  spectacular.
• 10:24
  We
• 10:24
  actually
• 10:24
  start
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  entire
• 10:25
  article
• 10:26
  with
• 10:26
  a
• 10:26
  picture
• 10:27
  of
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  man
• 10:27
  hiking
• 10:28
  with
• 10:28
  his
• 10:29
  dog.
• 10:29
  Just
• 10:30
  looks,
• 10:30
  it
• 10:31
  looks
• 10:31
  idyllic.
• 10:32
  It
• 10:32
  looks
• 10:32
  like,
• 10:32
  I
• 10:33
  don't
• 10:33
  know,
• 10:33
  Colorado
• 10:34
  or
• 10:35
  Montana
• 10:35
  or
• 10:36
  one
• 10:36
  of
• 10:36
  those
• 10:36
  places
• 10:37
  that
• 10:37
  are
• 10:38
  known
• 10:38
  for
• 10:38
  their
• 10:38
  natural
• 10:39
  beauty.
• 10:39
  I
• 10:39
  had
• 10:40
  no
• 10:40
  idea.
• 10:41
  Well,
• 10:41
  you
• 10:41
  know,
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  nickname
• 10:42
  is
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  natural
• 10:42
  state.
• 10:42
  They
• 10:43
  don't
• 10:43
  call
• 10:43
  it
• 10:43
  that
• 10:44
  for
• 10:44
  nothing.
• 10:44
  Whenever
• 10:45
  I'm
• 10:45
  in
• 10:45
  other
• 10:46
  countries,
• 10:46
  I'll
• 10:47
  often
• 10:47
  be
• 10:47
  like,
• 10:47
  well,
• 10:48
  this
• 10:48
  is
• 10:48
  almost
• 10:48
  as
• 10:48
  pretty
• 10:48
  as
• 10:49
  Arkansas.
• 10:49
  And
• 10:49
  I'll
• 10:49
  be
• 10:50
  in
• 10:50
  Ireland
• 10:50
  and
• 10:50
  everyone's
• 10:51
  like,
• 10:51
  oh,
• 10:51
  shut
• 10:51
  up.
• 10:54
  So
• 10:54
  have
• 10:54
  you
• 10:55
  ever
• 10:55
  been
• 10:55
  to
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  running
• 10:56
  of
• 10:57
  the
• 10:57
  tubs?
• 10:57
  I
• 10:58
  think
• 10:58
  that's
• 10:58
  what
• 10:58
  it's
• 10:58
  called.
• 10:59
  No,
• 10:59
  but
• 11:00
  I
• 11:01
  wasn't
• 11:01
  that
• 11:01
  familiar
• 11:01
  with
• 11:02
  that
• 11:02
  event.
• 11:02
  But
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  think
• 11:02
  it
• 11:02
  sounds
• 11:03
  like
• 11:03
  a
• 11:03
  lot
• 11:03
  of
• 11:03
  fun.
• 11:04
  I
• 11:04
  guess
• 11:04
  what
• 11:04
  they
• 11:04
  do
• 11:04
  is
• 11:05
  teams
• 11:06
  decorate
• 11:07
  these
• 11:08
  bathtubs
• 11:08
  and
• 11:08
  they're
• 11:08
  actually
• 11:09
  filled
• 11:09
  with
• 11:09
  water.
• 11:10
  They,
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  Don't
• 11:10
  know
• 11:10
  if
• 11:10
  they
• 11:11
  have
• 11:11
  a
• 11:11
  theme
• 11:11
  every
• 11:12
  year
• 11:12
  or
• 11:12
  what,
• 11:12
  but
• 11:13
  teams
• 11:13
  decorate
• 11:14
  them
• 11:14
  elaborately.
• 11:15
  They're
• 11:15
  filled
• 11:15
  with
• 11:15
  water,
• 11:15
  and
• 11:16
  then
• 11:16
  they
• 11:16
  run
• 11:16
  them
• 11:16
  down
• 11:17
  one
• 11:17
  of
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  central
• 11:18
  avenues
• 11:18
  in
• 11:18
  town
• 11:19
  as
• 11:19
  one
• 11:20
  of
• 11:20
  those,
• 11:20
  like,
• 11:20
  quirky
• 11:21
  traditions
• 11:21
  in
• 11:21
  town.
• 11:21
  It
• 11:22
  looks
• 11:22
  like
• 11:22
  a
• 11:22
  lot
• 11:22
  of
• 11:22
  fun.
• 11:23
  Yeah.
• 11:23
  I
• 11:24
  wonder
• 11:24
  who
• 11:24
  first
• 11:25
  thought
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  that.
• 11:25
  I
• 11:26
  know.
• 11:26
  So
• 11:27
  it
• 11:27
  seems
• 11:27
  like
• 11:27
  a
• 11:27
  tub
• 11:27
  got
• 11:28
  out
• 11:28
  of.
• 11:28
  Probably
• 11:28
  got
• 11:28
  out
• 11:29
  of
• 11:29
  hand
• 11:29
  one
• 11:29
  day
• 11:29
  and
• 11:29
  then
• 11:29
  it
• 11:30
  became
• 11:30
  an
• 11:30
  event.
• 11:31
  How
• 11:32
  does
• 11:32
  a
• 11:32
  tub
• 11:32
  get
• 11:33
  out
• 11:33
  of
• 11:33
  hand?
• 11:34
  Good
• 11:35
  question.
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  don't
• 11:35
  know
• 11:35
  where
• 11:36
  that
• 11:36
  came
• 11:36
  from.
• 11:37
  All
• 11:37
  right,
• 11:37
  so
• 11:37
  that
• 11:38
  is
• 11:38
  the
• 11:39
  next
• 11:39
  one,
• 11:39
  Hot
• 11:40
  Springs,
• 11:40
  Arkansas.
• 11:41
  And
• 11:42
  then
• 11:42
  we
• 11:42
  have
• 11:42
  a
• 11:42
  place
• 11:43
  in
• 11:43
  Greece
• 11:44
  that
• 11:44
  I'd
• 11:44
  never
• 11:44
  heard
• 11:45
  of
• 11:45
  before
• 11:45
  called
• 11:46
  Costa
• 11:47
  Navarino.
• 11:48
  Jason,
• 11:49
  take
• 11:49
  us
• 11:49
  there.
• 11:50
  Yeah.
• 11:50
  This
• 11:50
  is
• 11:50
  a
• 11:50
  part
• 11:51
  of
• 11:51
  Greece
• 11:51
  that
• 11:51
  a
• 11:51
  lot
• 11:51
  of
• 11:52
  people
• 11:52
  don't
• 11:52
  go
• 11:52
  to.
• 11:52
  I
• 11:53
  think
• 11:53
  people
• 11:53
  are
• 11:53
  more
• 11:53
  used
• 11:53
  to
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  islands
• 11:55
  south
• 11:55
  and
• 11:55
  southeast
• 11:56
  of
• 11:56
  Athens.
• 11:57
  This
• 11:57
  is
• 11:57
  west
• 11:57
  of
• 11:58
  Athens
• 11:58
  and
• 11:58
  it's
• 11:59
  considered
• 11:59
  part
• 11:59
  of
• 11:59
  the
• 12:00
  mainland.
• 12:00
  It's
• 12:00
  actually
• 12:01
  around
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  city
• 12:02
  of
• 12:02
  Messinina
• 12:03
  and
• 12:03
  it's
• 12:03
  an
• 12:04
  area
• 12:04
  of
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  Peloponnese.
• 12:05
  So
• 12:05
  it's
• 12:06
  sort
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  like
• 12:06
  a
• 12:06
  big
• 12:06
  landmass,
• 12:07
  maybe
• 12:08
  about
• 12:08
  a
• 12:08
  four
• 12:08
  hour
• 12:08
  drive
• 12:09
  west
• 12:09
  of
• 12:09
  Athens.
• 12:09
  But
• 12:09
  you
• 12:10
  can
• 12:10
  get
• 12:10
  there
• 12:10
  directly
• 12:11
  on
• 12:11
  flights
• 12:11
  from
• 12:12
  Europe
• 12:12
  or
• 12:12
  you
• 12:13
  can
• 12:13
  also
• 12:13
  take
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  ferry
• 12:14
  not
• 12:14
  too
• 12:14
  far
• 12:14
  away
• 12:15
  from
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  east
• 12:16
  coast
• 12:16
  of
• 12:16
  Italy.
• 12:17
  So
• 12:17
  there's
• 12:17
  a
• 12:17
  lot
• 12:17
  of
• 12:17
  ways
• 12:17
  to
• 12:18
  get
• 12:18
  there.
• 12:18
  And
• 12:19
  I
• 12:19
  think
• 12:19
  because
• 12:19
  it's
• 12:19
  sort
• 12:20
  of
• 12:20
  been
• 12:20
  off
• 12:20
  of
• 12:20
  the
• 12:20
  main
• 12:21
  up
• 12:21
  until
• 12:21
  now,
• 12:22
  it
• 12:22
  hasn't
• 12:22
  been
• 12:22
  a
• 12:22
  place
• 12:23
  where
• 12:23
  a
• 12:23
  ton
• 12:23
  of
• 12:23
  hotels
• 12:24
  have
• 12:24
  been
• 12:24
  built,
• 12:24
  but
• 12:24
  that's
• 12:24
  being
• 12:25
  changed
• 12:25
  very
• 12:25
  quickly.
• 12:26
  And
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  lot
• 12:26
  of
• 12:27
  luxury
• 12:27
  resort
• 12:27
  developments
• 12:28
  are
• 12:28
  starting
• 12:29
  to
• 12:29
  go
• 12:29
  in.
• 12:29
  Restaurants
• 12:30
  and
• 12:30
  other
• 12:31
  facilities
• 12:31
  are
• 12:31
  all
• 12:31
  sort
• 12:32
  of
• 12:32
  starting
• 12:32
  to
• 12:32
  appear
• 12:33
  along
• 12:33
  this
• 12:33
  area.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  in
• 12:34
  2026
• 12:35
  it's
• 12:35
  going
• 12:35
  to
• 12:35
  get
• 12:35
  a
• 12:36
  big
• 12:36
  boost,
• 12:36
  at
• 12:37
  least
• 12:37
  in
• 12:37
  terms
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  the
• 12:38
  international
• 12:38
  mindset.
• 12:39
  Because
• 12:39
  Christopher
• 12:40
  Nolan,
• 12:40
  whose
• 12:41
  movies
• 12:41
  always
• 12:41
  get
• 12:41
  a
• 12:42
  lot
• 12:42
  of
• 12:42
  attention,
• 12:42
  he
• 12:43
  did
• 12:43
  Oppenheimer,
• 12:44
  he
• 12:44
  just
• 12:44
  shot
• 12:45
  a
• 12:45
  movie
• 12:45
  called
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  Odyssey
• 12:46
  there
• 12:46
  with
• 12:46
  Matt
• 12:46
  Damon
• 12:47
  and
• 12:47
  Zendaya.
• 12:48
  So
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  think
• 12:48
  there
• 12:49
  are.
• 12:49
  People
• 12:49
  are
• 12:49
  going
• 12:49
  to
• 12:49
  be
• 12:49
  like
• 12:49
  wondering,
• 12:50
  where
• 12:50
  was
• 12:50
  that
• 12:51
  shot?
• 12:51
  And
• 12:51
  it's.
• 12:52
  It
• 12:52
  is,
• 12:52
  in
• 12:52
  fact,
• 12:52
  it's
• 12:53
  around
• 12:53
  the
• 12:53
  Costa
• 12:53
  Navarino
• 12:54
  area.
• 12:55
  So
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  reckon
• 12:55
  we
• 12:55
  recommend
• 12:56
  that
• 12:56
  for
• 12:56
  people
• 12:56
  because,
• 12:57
  you
• 12:57
  know,
• 12:57
  people
• 12:58
  don't
• 12:58
  always
• 12:58
  want
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  go
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  the
• 13:00
  Greek
• 13:00
  islands.
• 13:00
  They're
• 13:00
  a
• 13:00
  lot
• 13:01
  of
• 13:01
  work.
• 13:01
  This
• 13:01
  looks
• 13:01
  like
• 13:02
  a
• 13:02
  little
• 13:02
  bit
• 13:02
  easier.
• 13:02
  You
• 13:02
  can
• 13:03
  just
• 13:03
  take
• 13:03
  plane,
• 13:03
  plane
• 13:03
  and
• 13:04
  don't
• 13:04
  have
• 13:04
  to
• 13:04
  get
• 13:04
  on
• 13:04
  a
• 13:04
  ferry
• 13:05
  to
• 13:05
  be
• 13:05
  there.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:05
  you
• 13:05
  can
• 13:06
  giant
• 13:06
  resort
• 13:07
  experience
• 13:08
  that
• 13:08
  you
• 13:08
  can't
• 13:09
  always
• 13:09
  get
• 13:09
  in
• 13:09
  lots
• 13:10
  of
• 13:10
  other
• 13:10
  parts
• 13:10
  of
• 13:11
  Greece
• 13:11
  which
• 13:11
  are
• 13:11
  much
• 13:11
  more
• 13:11
  boutique
• 13:12
  now
• 13:12
  there
• 13:12
  are
• 13:12
  boutique
• 13:13
  hotels
• 13:13
  Here
• 13:14
  that
• 13:14
  are
• 13:14
  even
• 13:14
  less
• 13:14
  than
• 13:15
  $100.
• 13:15
  But
• 13:16
  if
• 13:16
  you
• 13:16
  want
• 13:16
  that
• 13:16
  fancy
• 13:17
  experience
• 13:17
  with
• 13:18
  golf
• 13:18
  and
• 13:18
  spas
• 13:19
  and
• 13:19
  there's
• 13:20
  a
• 13:20
  new
• 13:20
  tennis
• 13:20
  center
• 13:20
  with
• 13:21
  clay
• 13:21
  courts
• 13:21
  overlooking
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  Ionian
• 13:22
  Sea
• 13:23
  that
• 13:23
  opened
• 13:23
  in
• 13:23
  2026.
• 13:24
  If
• 13:24
  you
• 13:24
  want
• 13:25
  that
• 13:25
  kind
• 13:25
  of
• 13:25
  experience.
• 13:26
  I
• 13:26
  know
• 13:26
  a
• 13:26
  lot
• 13:26
  of
• 13:26
  people
• 13:26
  do.
• 13:27
  This
• 13:27
  is
• 13:27
  a
• 13:27
  new
• 13:27
  part
• 13:28
  of
• 13:28
  Greece
• 13:28
  to
• 13:28
  look
• 13:28
  at
• 13:28
  that's
• 13:29
  not
• 13:29
  yet
• 13:29
  overrun
• 13:29
  with
• 13:30
  visitors.
• 13:30
  You'll
• 13:30
  be
• 13:30
  among
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  first
• 13:31
  to
• 13:31
  get
• 13:31
  in
• 13:31
  on
• 13:31
  it.
• 13:32
  And
• 13:32
  like
• 13:32
  the
• 13:33
  Greek
• 13:33
  islands
• 13:34
  that
• 13:34
  you
• 13:34
  were
• 13:34
  just
• 13:34
  discussing,
• 13:35
  you
• 13:35
  look
• 13:36
  out
• 13:36
  at
• 13:36
  this
• 13:37
  perfect
• 13:37
  cerulean
• 13:38
  sea,
• 13:39
  and
• 13:39
  there
• 13:40
  are
• 13:40
  craggy
• 13:41
  mountains
• 13:42
  and
• 13:43
  olive
• 13:44
  trees
• 13:45
  and
• 13:45
  all
• 13:46
  of
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  beauty
• 13:46
  that
• 13:47
  you
• 13:47
  find
• 13:47
  in
• 13:47
  other
• 13:48
  parts
• 13:48
  of
• 13:48
  Greece.
• 13:49
  But
• 13:49
  less
• 13:49
  tourists,
• 13:50
  less
• 13:51
  development.
• 13:52
  And
• 13:52
  I
• 13:52
  gotta
• 13:53
  ask.
• 13:53
  So
• 13:53
  is
• 13:54
  Zendaya
• 13:55
  playing
• 13:55
  Penelope
• 13:56
  and
• 13:56
  Matt
• 13:57
  Damon?
• 13:57
  Is
• 13:57
  he
• 13:58
  Odysseus?
• 13:59
  No,
• 13:59
  Oppenheimer.
• 14:00
  Oppenheimer.
• 14:01
  Slip
• 14:02
  there.
• 14:03
  Nolan
• 14:03
  is
• 14:03
  famous
• 14:03
  for
• 14:03
  not
• 14:04
  releasing
• 14:04
  his
• 14:04
  scripts,
• 14:05
  even
• 14:05
  to
• 14:05
  his
• 14:06
  other
• 14:06
  actors
• 14:06
  in
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  show.
• 14:07
  So
• 14:07
  I'm
• 14:08
  not
• 14:08
  sure
• 14:08
  we
• 14:08
  exactly
• 14:09
  know
• 14:09
  what
• 14:09
  this
• 14:09
  is
• 14:10
  going
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  be
• 14:10
  and
• 14:10
  who's
• 14:11
  going
• 14:11
  to
• 14:11
  be
• 14:11
  playing
• 14:11
  what.
• 14:12
  But
• 14:12
  it's
• 14:12
  based
• 14:12
  on
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  Odyssey.
• 14:13
  I'm
• 14:13
  assuming
• 14:14
  we
• 14:14
  must.
• 14:15
  We
• 14:15
  can
• 14:15
  assume
• 14:15
  this,
• 14:16
  but
• 14:17
  who
• 14:17
  knows?
• 14:17
  But
• 14:18
  anyway,
• 14:18
  the
• 14:19
  region
• 14:19
  has
• 14:19
  lots
• 14:19
  of
• 14:20
  other
• 14:20
  stuff
• 14:20
  to
• 14:20
  offer.
• 14:21
  Zendaya
• 14:22
  will
• 14:22
  not
• 14:22
  be
• 14:22
  there.
• 14:22
  You
• 14:23
  know,
• 14:24
  hiking
• 14:25
  and
• 14:25
  waterfalls
• 14:25
  and
• 14:25
  rock
• 14:26
  climbing
• 14:26
  and
• 14:26
  mountain
• 14:26
  biking
• 14:27
  and
• 14:27
  ruins
• 14:27
  and
• 14:27
  all
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  things
• 14:28
  you
• 14:28
  expect
• 14:29
  from
• 14:29
  Greece
• 14:29
  without
• 14:30
  the
• 14:30
  traffic,
• 14:30
  which
• 14:31
  people
• 14:31
  don't
• 14:32
  expect
• 14:32
  from
• 14:32
  Greece,
• 14:33
  but
• 14:33
  often
• 14:33
  encounter
• 14:34
  anyway.
• 14:34
  Interesting.
• 14:35
  So
• 14:35
  there
• 14:35
  are
• 14:36
  ruins
• 14:36
  there.
• 14:36
  I
• 14:37
  didn't
• 14:37
  see
• 14:37
  photos
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  those.
• 14:38
  Interesting.
• 14:39
  Do
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  know
• 14:40
  what
• 14:40
  people
• 14:41
  they're
• 14:42
  from
• 14:42
  or
• 14:42
  what
• 14:42
  era?
• 14:43
  No.
• 14:44
  The
• 14:44
  Mycenaean
• 14:45
  period,
• 14:46
  like
• 14:46
  Pylos.
• 14:47
  The
• 14:47
  town
• 14:47
  of
• 14:47
  Pylos
• 14:48
  is
• 14:48
  nearby
• 14:48
  and
• 14:48
  it
• 14:48
  has
• 14:49
  Nestor,
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  castles
• 14:50
  of
• 14:50
  Nestor,
• 14:51
  or
• 14:52
  I
• 14:52
  don't
• 14:52
  know
• 14:52
  whose
• 14:53
  people
• 14:53
  that
• 14:53
  is.
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  remember
• 14:54
  Nestor
• 14:55
  from
• 14:55
  the
• 14:56
  Odyssey
• 14:56
  or
• 14:57
  actually
• 14:57
  from
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  Iliad.
• 14:58
  Isn't
• 14:58
  he
• 14:58
  the
• 14:58
  old
• 14:59
  guy
• 14:59
  who
• 14:59
  gives
• 14:59
  the
• 14:59
  speech
• 14:59
  that
• 15:00
  cheers
• 15:00
  everybody
• 15:00
  up
• 15:00
  right
• 15:01
  before
• 15:01
  the
• 15:01
  big
• 15:01
  battle?
• 15:02
  One
• 15:02
  of
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  many
• 15:03
  big
• 15:03
  battles.
• 15:04
  It's
• 15:04
  been
• 15:04
  a
• 15:04
  while.
• 15:05
  Yeah,
• 15:06
  I
• 15:07
  actually
• 15:07
  read
• 15:07
  that
• 15:08
  anyway.
• 15:08
  I
• 15:09
  read
• 15:09
  it
• 15:09
  a
• 15:09
  couple
• 15:09
  of
• 15:09
  times
• 15:10
  in
• 15:10
  high
• 15:11
  school
• 15:11
  and
• 15:11
  college
• 15:11
  for
• 15:12
  no
• 15:12
  good
• 15:12
  reason.
• 15:13
  All
• 15:13
  right,
• 15:13
  well,
• 15:14
  since
• 15:14
  Zach
• 15:14
  is
• 15:14
  talking,
• 15:15
  we're
• 15:15
  going
• 15:15
  to
• 15:15
  keep
• 15:15
  going
• 15:16
  with
• 15:16
  Zach.
• 15:16
  And
• 15:17
  Zach,
• 15:17
  you
• 15:17
  are
• 15:18
  taking
• 15:18
  us
• 15:19
  to
• 15:19
  Jasper
• 15:20
  in
• 15:21
  Canada,
• 15:21
  in
• 15:22
  Alberta.
• 15:23
  And
• 15:23
  this.
• 15:23
  I
• 15:23
  thought
• 15:24
  this
• 15:24
  was
• 15:24
  a
• 15:24
  really
• 15:25
  interesting
• 15:25
  reason
• 15:26
  why
• 15:26
  we
• 15:26
  chose
• 15:27
  it
• 15:27
  this
• 15:27
  year.
• 15:28
  Yeah.
• 15:28
  So
• 15:28
  this
• 15:28
  is
• 15:28
  another
• 15:28
  one
• 15:29
  kind
• 15:29
  of
• 15:29
  similar
• 15:29
  to
• 15:30
  Asheville,
• 15:30
  which
• 15:30
  we
• 15:31
  talked
• 15:31
  about
• 15:31
  last
• 15:32
  week,
• 15:32
  that
• 15:32
  suffered
• 15:33
  a
• 15:33
  pretty
• 15:34
  serious
• 15:34
  natural
• 15:35
  disaster
• 15:35
  in
• 15:36
  2024.
• 15:37
  In
• 15:37
  the
• 15:37
  summer
• 15:38
  of
• 15:38
  2024,
• 15:38
  there
• 15:38
  was
• 15:39
  a
• 15:39
  destructive
• 15:40
  wildfire
• 15:40
  that
• 15:40
  tore
• 15:41
  through
• 15:41
  Jasper
• 15:42
  and
• 15:42
  Jasper
• 15:43
  national
• 15:43
  park
• 15:43
  in
• 15:44
  the
• 15:44
  Canadian
• 15:44
  Rockies.
• 15:45
  And
• 15:46
  when
• 15:46
  the
• 15:47
  Area
• 15:47
  reopened
• 15:48
  for
• 15:48
  tourism
• 15:49
  for
• 15:49
  summer
• 15:49
  2025.
• 15:51
  The
• 15:51
  pitch
• 15:51
  was
• 15:51
  kind
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  like,
• 15:52
  first
• 15:53
  of
• 15:53
  all,
• 15:54
  much
• 15:54
  of
• 15:54
  the
• 15:54
  pristine
• 15:55
  landscape
• 15:55
  that
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  place
• 15:56
  is
• 15:56
  known
• 15:56
  for,
• 15:57
  like
• 15:57
  the,
• 15:57
  you
• 15:58
  know,
• 15:58
  shockingly
• 15:59
  blue
• 15:59
  lakes.
• 15:59
  Banff
• 16:00
  has
• 16:00
  a
• 16:00
  lot
• 16:00
  of
• 16:00
  those
• 16:00
  too,
• 16:01
  which
• 16:01
  is
• 16:01
  also
• 16:01
  in
• 16:01
  Alberta.
• 16:02
  But
• 16:02
  these
• 16:02
  shockingly
• 16:03
  blue
• 16:03
  lakes,
• 16:04
  the
• 16:04
  incredible
• 16:04
  forested
• 16:05
  mountains
• 16:05
  and
• 16:06
  the
• 16:06
  Rockies,
• 16:07
  they're
• 16:07
  pretty
• 16:07
  much
• 16:07
  what
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  know
• 16:08
  of
• 16:08
  it.
• 16:08
  The
• 16:08
  glaciers
• 16:09
  remain
• 16:10
  unharmed
• 16:10
  from
• 16:11
  the
• 16:11
  fire.
• 16:11
  But
• 16:12
  also
• 16:12
  Parks
• 16:13
  Canada,
• 16:13
  which
• 16:14
  runs
• 16:15
  national
• 16:15
  parks
• 16:15
  in
• 16:15
  Canada,
• 16:16
  and
• 16:16
  other
• 16:16
  tour
• 16:16
  operators
• 16:17
  nearby
• 16:17
  seize
• 16:18
  this
• 16:18
  opportunity
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  sort
• 16:19
  of
• 16:19
  teach
• 16:19
  people
• 16:19
  about
• 16:20
  fire
• 16:20
  ecology
• 16:21
  and
• 16:22
  sort
• 16:22
  of
• 16:23
  press
• 16:23
  home
• 16:23
  to
• 16:23
  tourists
• 16:24
  the
• 16:24
  nature's
• 16:25
  resilience
• 16:26
  and
• 16:26
  sense
• 16:26
  of
• 16:27
  renewal
• 16:27
  and
• 16:27
  our
• 16:27
  kind
• 16:28
  of
• 16:28
  our
• 16:28
  responsibility
• 16:29
  to
• 16:29
  protect
• 16:29
  it.
• 16:30
  So
• 16:30
  there
• 16:30
  are
• 16:30
  these
• 16:30
  new
• 16:31
  tours
• 16:31
  and
• 16:31
  programming
• 16:32
  that
• 16:32
  shows
• 16:33
  off
• 16:33
  stuff
• 16:33
  like
• 16:34
  how
• 16:34
  wildlife
• 16:35
  adjust
• 16:36
  to
• 16:37
  wildfires
• 16:38
  and
• 16:38
  how
• 16:39
  the
• 16:40
  new
• 16:40
  flora,
• 16:41
  new
• 16:41
  plant
• 16:41
  life
• 16:41
  has
• 16:42
  emerged.
• 16:42
  And
• 16:43
  it
• 16:43
  gives
• 16:43
  you
• 16:43
  a
• 16:43
  chance
• 16:43
  to
• 16:44
  kind
• 16:44
  of
• 16:44
  see
• 16:44
  these
• 16:44
  areas
• 16:45
  as
• 16:46
  no
• 16:46
  one
• 16:46
  alive
• 16:46
  has
• 16:47
  seen
• 16:47
  them
• 16:48
  before
• 16:48
  because
• 16:48
  of
• 16:49
  the.
• 16:49
  The
• 16:50
  damage
• 16:50
  and
• 16:51
  as
• 16:51
  they
• 16:51
  continue
• 16:51
  to
• 16:52
  recover.
• 16:52
  And
• 16:53
  I
• 16:53
  did
• 16:53
  some
• 16:54
  calling
• 16:54
  around
• 16:54
  to
• 16:54
  make
• 16:55
  sure
• 16:55
  that
• 16:55
  these
• 16:55
  sorts
• 16:56
  of
• 16:56
  tours
• 16:56
  would
• 16:56
  be
• 16:56
  continuing
• 16:57
  into
• 16:57
  2026,
• 16:58
  and
• 16:58
  everybody
• 16:58
  said
• 16:58
  yes,
• 16:58
  because
• 16:59
  they've
• 16:59
  been
• 16:59
  very
• 16:59
  popular
• 17:00
  and
• 17:00
  very
• 17:00
  interesting.
• 17:01
  And
• 17:01
  it
• 17:01
  gives
• 17:01
  a
• 17:01
  chance
• 17:02
  to
• 17:02
  sort
• 17:02
  of
• 17:02
  see
• 17:03
  that
• 17:03
  evolution
• 17:03
  and
• 17:04
  ongoing
• 17:04
  recovery
• 17:05
  as
• 17:05
  Jasper
• 17:05
  continues
• 17:06
  to
• 17:06
  make
• 17:06
  a
• 17:06
  comeback.
• 17:06
  And
• 17:07
  also,
• 17:07
  there's
• 17:07
  a
• 17:08
  pretty
• 17:08
  exciting
• 17:08
  thing
• 17:09
  in
• 17:09
  the
• 17:10
  Rockies.
• 17:10
  The
• 17:10
  Rocky
• 17:11
  Mountaineer
• 17:11
  Train
• 17:12
  company.
• 17:12
  Everybody
• 17:12
  knows,
• 17:13
  you
• 17:13
  know,
• 17:13
  it's
• 17:13
  famous
• 17:13
  for
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  sightseeing
• 17:14
  trains.
• 17:15
  They're
• 17:15
  starting
• 17:16
  a
• 17:16
  new
• 17:16
  route
• 17:16
  in
• 17:17
  2026
• 17:17
  that
• 17:18
  just
• 17:18
  goes
• 17:18
  between
• 17:19
  Jasper
• 17:19
  and
• 17:19
  Banff
• 17:20
  and
• 17:20
  REM
• 17:21
  Canadian
• 17:21
  Rockies
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  entire
• 17:22
  time.
• 17:23
  Most
• 17:23
  of
• 17:24
  Rocky
• 17:24
  Mountaineer
• 17:24
  routes
• 17:25
  end
• 17:25
  up
• 17:25
  in
• 17:26
  British
• 17:26
  Columbia
• 17:27
  and
• 17:27
  Vancouver,
• 17:27
  but
• 17:28
  Vancouver
• 17:28
  is
• 17:29
  hosting
• 17:29
  one
• 17:29
  of
• 17:29
  the
• 17:30
  North
• 17:30
  American
• 17:31
  cities
• 17:31
  hosting
• 17:31
  the
• 17:31
  FIFA
• 17:32
  World
• 17:32
  cup
• 17:32
  for
• 17:33
  soccer.
• 17:33
  So
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  people
• 17:34
  who
• 17:34
  want
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  avoid
• 17:35
  those
• 17:35
  crowds
• 17:35
  can
• 17:35
  just
• 17:35
  stay
• 17:36
  in
• 17:36
  the
• 17:36
  Canadian
• 17:36
  Rockies
• 17:36
  the
• 17:37
  whole
• 17:37
  time.
• 17:37
  And
• 17:37
  while
• 17:38
  you're
• 17:38
  there,
• 17:38
  you
• 17:38
  can
• 17:38
  extend
• 17:39
  your
• 17:39
  trip
• 17:39
  in
• 17:40
  while
• 17:40
  you're
• 17:40
  in
• 17:40
  Jasper
• 17:41
  to
• 17:41
  go
• 17:41
  to
• 17:41
  places
• 17:41
  like
• 17:41
  the
• 17:42
  Columbia
• 17:42
  Ice
• 17:42
  Field,
• 17:43
  which
• 17:43
  is
• 17:43
  a
• 17:43
  huge
• 17:44
  glacier
• 17:44
  field.
• 17:45
  It's
• 17:45
  incredible.
• 17:46
  It's
• 17:46
  a
• 17:46
  really
• 17:46
  incredible
• 17:47
  region.
• 17:48
  Not
• 17:48
  too
• 17:48
  long
• 17:49
  ago,
• 17:49
  Fromers
• 17:49
  reviewed
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  Rocky
• 17:50
  Mountaineer
• 17:51
  train.
• 17:51
  If
• 17:51
  you
• 17:51
  don't
• 17:52
  know,
• 17:52
  specially
• 17:53
  built
• 17:53
  carriages
• 17:53
  with
• 17:54
  giant,
• 17:54
  domed,
• 17:55
  clear
• 17:56
  windows
• 17:56
  so
• 17:56
  it's
• 17:57
  easy
• 17:57
  to
• 17:57
  take
• 17:57
  pictures.
• 17:57
  It's
• 17:58
  a
• 17:58
  little.
• 17:58
  It's
• 17:58
  a
• 17:58
  little
• 17:59
  expensive.
• 17:59
  It's
• 17:59
  a
• 17:59
  luxury
• 18:00
  product,
• 18:00
  but
• 18:00
  it
• 18:00
  is
• 18:00
  all
• 18:01
  inclusive,
• 18:01
  including
• 18:01
  alcohol,
• 18:02
  so
• 18:02
  it's
• 18:02
  an
• 18:03
  easy
• 18:03
  way
• 18:03
  to
• 18:03
  get
• 18:03
  around.
• 18:03
  And
• 18:04
  if
• 18:04
  you
• 18:04
  had
• 18:04
  taken
• 18:04
  the
• 18:04
  Ratmaki
• 18:05
  Mountaineer
• 18:05
  from
• 18:06
  Vancouver,
• 18:06
  you
• 18:07
  have
• 18:07
  to
• 18:07
  spend
• 18:07
  one
• 18:07
  night
• 18:08
  overnight
• 18:08
  in
• 18:08
  a
• 18:08
  city
• 18:09
  called
• 18:09
  Kamloops,
• 18:09
  which
• 18:10
  is
• 18:10
  near
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  border
• 18:10
  of
• 18:10
  Alberta.
• 18:11
  And
• 18:11
  if
• 18:11
  you
• 18:11
  just
• 18:12
  do
• 18:12
  the
• 18:12
  Jasper
• 18:12
  Banff
• 18:13
  product
• 18:13
  that
• 18:14
  Zach
• 18:14
  was
• 18:14
  just
• 18:14
  describing,
• 18:15
  you
• 18:15
  avoid
• 18:16
  that
• 18:16
  and
• 18:16
  you
• 18:16
  sort
• 18:16
  of
• 18:16
  stay
• 18:17
  entirely
• 18:17
  with
• 18:17
  this
• 18:18
  Edenic,
• 18:19
  beautiful,
• 18:20
  astonishingly
• 18:20
  gorgeous
• 18:21
  national
• 18:22
  park
• 18:22
  zone
• 18:22
  between
• 18:23
  Jasper
• 18:24
  and
• 18:24
  Banff.
• 18:25
  So
• 18:25
  are
• 18:25
  you
• 18:25
  saying
• 18:26
  Kamloop
• 18:26
  sucks?
• 18:27
  Basically,
• 18:28
  it's
• 18:28
  like
• 18:28
  a,
• 18:28
  you
• 18:28
  know,
• 18:28
  it's
• 18:29
  like
• 18:29
  a
• 18:29
  kind
• 18:29
  of
• 18:29
  a
• 18:30
  quieter
• 18:30
  cow
• 18:30
  town
• 18:31
  type
• 18:31
  of
• 18:31
  thing.
• 18:31
  It
• 18:32
  feels
• 18:32
  more
• 18:32
  Western
• 18:33
  than
• 18:33
  it
• 18:33
  does
• 18:34
  feel
• 18:34
  like
• 18:35
  you're
• 18:35
  deep
• 18:35
  in
• 18:35
  the
• 18:36
  Rockies
• 18:36
  with
• 18:36
  the
• 18:37
  trees
• 18:37
  and
• 18:37
  the
• 18:37
  lakes.
• 18:38
  So
• 18:38
  it's
• 18:38
  a
• 18:38
  completely
• 18:38
  different
• 18:39
  vibe.
• 18:39
  It's
• 18:39
  just
• 18:39
  an
• 18:40
  overnight.
• 18:40
  You
• 18:40
  have
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  get
• 18:40
  off
• 18:41
  the
• 18:41
  train.
• 18:41
  You
• 18:41
  don't
• 18:41
  spend
• 18:41
  the
• 18:42
  night
• 18:42
  on
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  train
• 18:42
  if
• 18:42
  you
• 18:42
  take
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  Rocky
• 18:43
  Mountaineer.
• 18:44
  So
• 18:44
  it's
• 18:44
  just
• 18:44
  one
• 18:44
  added
• 18:44
  step
• 18:45
  that
• 18:45
  some
• 18:45
  people,
• 18:45
  you
• 18:45
  know,
• 18:46
  that's
• 18:46
  great
• 18:46
  views
• 18:46
  on
• 18:46
  either
• 18:47
  side
• 18:47
  of
• 18:47
  it,
• 18:47
  but
• 18:47
  some
• 18:47
  people
• 18:47
  just
• 18:48
  don't
• 18:48
  want
• 18:48
  to
• 18:48
  go
• 18:48
  through
• 18:48
  all
• 18:49
  that.
• 18:49
  They'd
• 18:49
  rather
• 18:49
  stick
• 18:49
  to
• 18:50
  where
• 18:50
  their
• 18:50
  destination
• 18:50
  is.
• 18:51
  And
• 18:51
  we
• 18:51
  should
• 18:52
  say
• 18:52
  that
• 18:52
  if
• 18:52
  you
• 18:52
  do,
• 18:53
  it
• 18:53
  is
• 18:53
  possible
• 18:53
  to
• 18:54
  cobble
• 18:54
  together
• 18:54
  a
• 18:54
  rail
• 18:55
  trip
• 18:55
  through
• 18:55
  that
• 18:56
  region
• 18:57
  by
• 18:57
  using
• 18:58
  via,
• 18:58
  which
• 18:58
  is
• 18:58
  Canada's
• 18:59
  answer
• 18:59
  to
• 18:59
  Amtrak.
• 19:00
  There.
• 19:00
  It's
• 19:01
  much
• 19:01
  more
• 19:01
  affordable.
• 19:01
  It's
• 19:02
  not
• 19:02
  as
• 19:02
  luxurious
• 19:03
  and
• 19:04
  glamorous
• 19:05
  as
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  Rocky
• 19:05
  Mountaineer,
• 19:07
  but
• 19:07
  it
• 19:07
  is
• 19:07
  a
• 19:07
  cheaper
• 19:08
  option
• 19:08
  if
• 19:08
  you
• 19:08
  want
• 19:08
  to
• 19:08
  go.
• 19:09
  Through
• 19:09
  or
• 19:09
  just
• 19:09
  go
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  national
• 19:10
  parks
• 19:10
  on
• 19:10
  your
• 19:10
  own.
• 19:10
  Of
• 19:10
  course,
• 19:11
  you
• 19:11
  don't
• 19:11
  have
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  do
• 19:11
  this
• 19:11
  rent
• 19:12
  a
• 19:12
  car
• 19:13
  way
• 19:13
  of
• 19:13
  doing
• 19:13
  things
• 19:13
  right.
• 19:14
  Absolutely.
• 19:15
  And
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  think
• 19:15
  we
• 19:15
  should
• 19:16
  underline
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  fact
• 19:17
  that
• 19:17
  most
• 19:18
  people
• 19:18
  who
• 19:19
  go
• 19:19
  to
• 19:19
  Jasper
• 19:20
  today
• 19:21
  will
• 19:21
  not
• 19:21
  see
• 19:21
  the
• 19:22
  damage.
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  mean,
• 19:23
  there's
• 19:24
  still
• 19:24
  so
• 19:25
  much
• 19:25
  beauty
• 19:25
  there.
• 19:26
  But
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  think
• 19:27
  it
• 19:27
  is
• 19:27
  so
• 19:27
  smart
• 19:28
  and
• 19:29
  so
• 19:29
  much
• 19:29
  of
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  moment
• 19:31
  that
• 19:31
  they
• 19:31
  are
• 19:31
  embracing
• 19:33
  what
• 19:33
  is
• 19:33
  happening
• 19:34
  to
• 19:34
  many
• 19:34
  communities
• 19:36
  and
• 19:36
  trying
• 19:36
  to
• 19:36
  educate
• 19:37
  people
• 19:38
  about
• 19:38
  fire,
• 19:39
  about
• 19:40
  climate
• 19:40
  change,
• 19:41
  about
• 19:41
  what
• 19:41
  is
• 19:42
  happening
• 19:42
  to
• 19:43
  our
• 19:43
  world
• 19:43
  and
• 19:44
  the
• 19:44
  best
• 19:44
  ways
• 19:44
  of
• 19:45
  managing
• 19:45
  it.
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  think
• 19:46
  that's
• 19:46
  brilliant.
• 19:46
  Brilliant.
• 19:47
  Especially
• 19:48
  wildfires
• 19:48
  feel
• 19:48
  more
• 19:49
  intense
• 19:49
  over
• 19:49
  the
• 19:49
  years.
• 19:50
  I'm
• 19:50
  sorry
• 19:50
  to
• 19:50
  step
• 19:51
  on
• 19:51
  you
• 19:51
  there.
• 19:51
  Scientists
• 19:52
  say
• 19:52
  as
• 19:52
  things
• 19:53
  go
• 19:53
  on,
• 19:54
  it's
• 19:54
  great
• 19:54
  to
• 19:55
  be
• 19:55
  armed
• 19:55
  with
• 19:56
  knowledge.
• 19:57
  As
• 19:58
  a.
• 19:58
  We
• 19:58
  mentioned
• 19:58
  Asheville
• 19:59
  last
• 19:59
  week
• 20:00
  as
• 20:00
  a
• 20:00
  place
• 20:00
  that
• 20:00
  is
• 20:01
  worth
• 20:01
  going
• 20:01
  to
• 20:01
  because
• 20:01
  it's
• 20:02
  being
• 20:02
  reborn
• 20:02
  after
• 20:02
  a
• 20:03
  disaster.
• 20:03
  And
• 20:04
  they
• 20:04
  too
• 20:04
  are
• 20:04
  talking
• 20:05
  a
• 20:05
  great
• 20:05
  deal
• 20:05
  about
• 20:06
  how
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  rebuild
• 20:07
  sensibly,
• 20:08
  like
• 20:08
  not
• 20:08
  on
• 20:08
  floodplains
• 20:09
  and
• 20:10
  better
• 20:10
  architecture
• 20:10
  and
• 20:11
  better,
• 20:11
  better
• 20:11
  infrastructure.
• 20:12
  So
• 20:13
  it's
• 20:13
  something
• 20:13
  that
• 20:13
  both
• 20:13
  destinations
• 20:14
  have
• 20:14
  in
• 20:15
  common,
• 20:15
  that
• 20:16
  their
• 20:16
  rebirth
• 20:17
  is
• 20:17
  actually
• 20:17
  also
• 20:17
  a
• 20:17
  re
• 20:18
  education
• 20:18
  and
• 20:18
  they're
• 20:18
  living
• 20:19
  better
• 20:19
  now.
• 20:20
  Yeah,
• 20:20
  yeah.
• 20:21
  No,
• 20:21
  I
• 20:21
  was
• 20:21
  so
• 20:22
  excited
• 20:22
  about
• 20:22
  that
• 20:22
  one.
• 20:23
  And
• 20:23
  the
• 20:23
  photos
• 20:24
  are
• 20:24
  just
• 20:24
  gorgeous.
• 20:24
  What
• 20:25
  a
• 20:25
  gorgeous
• 20:25
  place.
• 20:26
  Oh,
• 20:26
  my
• 20:26
  goodness.
• 20:27
  Another
• 20:27
  gorgeous
• 20:28
  place
• 20:28
  that
• 20:29
  Jason
• 20:29
  is
• 20:29
  going
• 20:30
  to
• 20:30
  discuss
• 20:30
  is
• 20:31
  in
• 20:32
  Fiji.
• 20:33
  Vitu
• 20:34
  Levi.
• 20:34
  Tell
• 20:35
  us
• 20:35
  about
• 20:35
  that.
• 20:36
  You
• 20:36
  know,
• 20:36
  you
• 20:36
  said
• 20:36
  earlier
• 20:37
  that
• 20:38
  not
• 20:38
  every,
• 20:40
  some,
• 20:40
  that
• 20:41
  Peru
• 20:41
  was
• 20:41
  the
• 20:41
  only
• 20:42
  place
• 20:42
  that
• 20:42
  was
• 20:42
  a
• 20:42
  country
• 20:43
  on
• 20:43
  our
• 20:43
  list.
• 20:43
  Technically,
• 20:44
  Viti
• 20:45
  Levu
• 20:45
  is
• 20:46
  the
• 20:46
  largest
• 20:46
  island
• 20:47
  of
• 20:47
  Fiji.
• 20:47
  So
• 20:48
  it's
• 20:48
  what
• 20:48
  a
• 20:48
  lot
• 20:48
  of
• 20:49
  visitors
• 20:49
  to
• 20:49
  Fiji
• 20:50
  think
• 20:50
  of
• 20:50
  as
• 20:50
  Fiji.
• 20:51
  So
• 20:51
  this
• 20:51
  is
• 20:51
  a
• 20:52
  hedge,
• 20:52
  but
• 20:52
  we're
• 20:52
  talking
• 20:53
  about
• 20:53
  the
• 20:53
  main
• 20:53
  island,
• 20:53
  Viti
• 20:54
  Levu
• 20:54
  of
• 20:55
  Fiji.
• 20:56
  One
• 20:56
  of
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  biggest
• 20:57
  reasons
• 20:57
  it's
• 20:57
  on
• 20:57
  our
• 20:58
  list
• 20:58
  is
• 20:58
  because
• 20:58
  it's
• 20:58
  often
• 20:59
  been
• 20:59
  kind
• 20:59
  of
• 20:59
  difficult
• 21:00
  to
• 21:00
  reach
• 21:00
  from
• 21:01
  North
• 21:01
  America,
• 21:01
  which
• 21:02
  is
• 21:02
  of
• 21:02
  course
• 21:02
  where
• 21:02
  we're
• 21:03
  based.
• 21:03
  But
• 21:04
  Fiji
• 21:04
  Airways
• 21:04
  is
• 21:05
  going
• 21:05
  to
• 21:05
  be
• 21:05
  flying
• 21:05
  from
• 21:06
  Vancouver,
• 21:06
  Louisiana,
• 21:07
  San
• 21:07
  Francisco,
• 21:09
  Dallas
• 21:09
  and
• 21:09
  Honolulu
• 21:10
  next
• 21:11
  year.
• 21:11
  So
• 21:12
  it's
• 21:12
  gonna
• 21:12
  be
• 21:12
  so
• 21:12
  much
• 21:12
  easier
• 21:12
  to
• 21:13
  get
• 21:13
  there.
• 21:13
  And
• 21:13
  that
• 21:13
  makes
• 21:13
  a
• 21:13
  big
• 21:14
  difference
• 21:14
  because
• 21:14
  it's
• 21:14
  a
• 21:14
  long
• 21:15
  way
• 21:15
  away.
• 21:15
  It's
• 21:15
  sort
• 21:15
  of
• 21:15
  northeast
• 21:16
  of
• 21:16
  Australia
• 21:17
  and
• 21:17
  very
• 21:18
  west
• 21:18
  of
• 21:18
  the
• 21:18
  Galapagos
• 21:19
  Islands
• 21:19
  in
• 21:19
  the
• 21:19
  Southern
• 21:20
  Pacific.
• 21:20
  But
• 21:20
  it
• 21:21
  gives
• 21:21
  you
• 21:21
  that
• 21:22
  South
• 21:22
  Pacific
• 21:23
  thing
• 21:23
  that
• 21:24
  you
• 21:24
  want.
• 21:24
  You
• 21:25
  know,
• 21:25
  you
• 21:25
  want,
• 21:25
  you
• 21:25
  want
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  reefs,
• 21:26
  you
• 21:26
  want
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  mountainous
• 21:27
  islands
• 21:28
  that
• 21:28
  are
• 21:28
  thick
• 21:28
  with
• 21:28
  jungle.
• 21:30
  But
• 21:30
  there's
• 21:30
  an
• 21:30
  interesting
• 21:31
  culture
• 21:32
  in
• 21:32
  Fiji
• 21:33
  that
• 21:33
  a
• 21:33
  lot
• 21:33
  of
• 21:33
  the
• 21:34
  other
• 21:34
  places
• 21:34
  like
• 21:34
  Cook
• 21:34
  Islands
• 21:35
  don't
• 21:36
  have.
• 21:36
  And
• 21:36
  it's
• 21:37
  sort
• 21:37
  of
• 21:37
  this,
• 21:38
  it's
• 21:38
  sort
• 21:38
  of
• 21:39
  an
• 21:39
  Indo
• 21:39
  Fijian
• 21:39
  culture.
• 21:40
  You
• 21:40
  get
• 21:40
  the
• 21:40
  Fijian
• 21:41
  people,
• 21:41
  the
• 21:41
  indigenous
• 21:42
  folk,
• 21:42
  and.
• 21:42
  But
• 21:42
  you
• 21:42
  also
• 21:43
  had
• 21:43
  some
• 21:43
  people
• 21:43
  come
• 21:44
  over
• 21:44
  in
• 21:44
  the
• 21:44
  history
• 21:45
  that
• 21:45
  were
• 21:45
  some
• 21:46
  Chinese
• 21:46
  people
• 21:47
  and
• 21:47
  some
• 21:47
  people
• 21:47
  from
• 21:48
  India.
• 21:48
  And
• 21:48
  so
• 21:49
  there's
• 21:49
  this
• 21:49
  interesting
• 21:50
  mix
• 21:50
  of
• 21:50
  cultures
• 21:51
  happening
• 21:51
  in
• 21:51
  Fiji
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  it
• 21:52
  affects
• 21:53
  not
• 21:53
  just
• 21:53
  the
• 21:53
  religion
• 21:54
  and
• 21:54
  the
• 21:54
  temples
• 21:55
  that
• 21:55
  you'll
• 21:55
  see,
• 21:55
  it
• 21:55
  affects
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  cuisine
• 21:57
  and
• 21:57
  it
• 21:57
  makes
• 21:57
  for
• 21:58
  very
• 21:59
  interesting
• 22:00
  multicultural
• 22:01
  society
• 22:01
  in
• 22:02
  the
• 22:02
  middle
• 22:02
  of
• 22:02
  the
• 22:02
  South
• 22:03
  Pacific,
• 22:03
  which
• 22:03
  you
• 22:03
  don't
• 22:04
  always
• 22:05
  expect.
• 22:06
  Obviously
• 22:06
  they
• 22:06
  have
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  great
• 22:07
  resorts
• 22:07
  there
• 22:08
  that
• 22:08
  you
• 22:08
  know,
• 22:08
  the
• 22:08
  Intercontinental
• 22:09
  and
• 22:09
  other
• 22:09
  things.
• 22:10
  But
• 22:10
  there's
• 22:10
  a
• 22:10
  lot
• 22:10
  of
• 22:10
  boutique
• 22:11
  places
• 22:11
  too,
• 22:11
  family
• 22:11
  run
• 22:12
  places.
• 22:12
  In
• 22:12
  fact,
• 22:12
  the
• 22:13
  majority
• 22:13
  of
• 22:13
  places
• 22:13
  to
• 22:14
  stay
• 22:14
  in
• 22:14
  Fiji,
• 22:15
  it's
• 22:15
  going
• 22:15
  to
• 22:15
  be
• 22:15
  going
• 22:15
  to
• 22:15
  the
• 22:16
  pocket
• 22:16
  of
• 22:16
  someone
• 22:16
  who
• 22:17
  either
• 22:17
  owns
• 22:17
  it
• 22:17
  or
• 22:18
  is,
• 22:18
  you
• 22:18
  know,
• 22:18
  part
• 22:18
  of
• 22:19
  the
• 22:19
  community,
• 22:19
  which
• 22:19
  I
• 22:20
  think
• 22:20
  really
• 22:20
  important
• 22:21
  and
• 22:21
  we
• 22:21
  don't
• 22:22
  really
• 22:22
  mention
• 22:22
  it
• 22:22
  in
• 22:23
  what
• 22:23
  we
• 22:23
  write,
• 22:23
  but
• 22:24
  next
• 22:24
  year
• 22:24
  they're
• 22:25
  going
• 22:25
  to
• 22:25
  be
• 22:25
  airing
• 22:25
  Survivor's
• 22:26
  50th
• 22:27
  season.
• 22:27
  For
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  last,
• 22:28
  what,
• 22:28
  10,
• 22:29
  12
• 22:29
  years
• 22:29
  or
• 22:30
  so,
• 22:30
  Survivor
• 22:31
  has
• 22:31
  been
• 22:31
  filmed
• 22:31
  in
• 22:32
  Fiji
• 22:32
  off
• 22:32
  the,
• 22:32
  off
• 22:33
  the
• 22:33
  south,
• 22:33
  wait,
• 22:34
  northwest
• 22:34
  coast
• 22:35
  of
• 22:35
  this
• 22:36
  main
• 22:36
  island
• 22:36
  that
• 22:37
  we're
• 22:37
  talking
• 22:37
  about.
• 22:38
  And
• 22:38
  in
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  off
• 22:39
  season
• 22:39
  when
• 22:39
  they're
• 22:39
  not
• 22:39
  shooting,
• 22:40
  there
• 22:40
  are
• 22:40
  tours.
• 22:40
  You
• 22:40
  can
• 22:40
  go
• 22:41
  and
• 22:41
  see
• 22:41
  the
• 22:42
  areas
• 22:42
  where
• 22:42
  they
• 22:42
  film
• 22:43
  Survivor,
• 22:43
  but
• 22:43
  if
• 22:43
  you're
• 22:44
  there
• 22:44
  between
• 22:44
  mid
• 22:44
  April
• 22:44
  and
• 22:45
  mid
• 22:45
  July,
• 22:45
  that's
• 22:46
  when
• 22:46
  they're
• 22:46
  filming
• 22:46
  51
• 22:47
  and
• 22:47
  52
• 22:48
  next
• 22:48
  year.
• 22:48
  But
• 22:49
  if
• 22:49
  you're
• 22:49
  a
• 22:49
  Survivor
• 22:49
  fan,
• 22:50
  you
• 22:50
  already
• 22:50
  know
• 22:50
  Fiji
• 22:50
  very
• 22:51
  well.
• 22:51
  Yeah.
• 22:52
  I
• 22:52
  can't
• 22:52
  believe
• 22:52
  they've
• 22:53
  had
• 22:53
  50
• 22:53
  seasons.
• 22:54
  My
• 22:54
  Lord.
• 22:54
  They
• 22:54
  do
• 22:55
  two
• 22:55
  a
• 22:55
  year.
• 22:55
  And
• 22:55
  plus.
• 22:56
  Okay.
• 22:58
  I
• 22:58
  remember
• 22:58
  when
• 22:58
  it
• 22:59
  started.
• 22:59
  Oh,
• 22:59
  God.
• 23:00
  And
• 23:01
  I
• 23:01
  remember
• 23:01
  also,
• 23:02
  Jason,
• 23:03
  when
• 23:03
  you
• 23:03
  and
• 23:04
  I
• 23:04
  were
• 23:04
  both
• 23:04
  working
• 23:05
  for
• 23:05
  Budget
• 23:05
  Travel
• 23:06
  magazine.
• 23:07
  Fiji
• 23:07
  had
• 23:08
  some
• 23:08
  political
• 23:09
  unrest
• 23:10
  that
• 23:10
  made
• 23:10
  it
• 23:11
  a
• 23:11
  no
• 23:11
  go
• 23:11
  zone.
• 23:12
  But
• 23:13
  I
• 23:13
  think
• 23:13
  it's
• 23:13
  important
• 23:14
  to
• 23:14
  say
• 23:14
  it's
• 23:15
  fully
• 23:15
  peaceful
• 23:16
  once
• 23:16
  again.
• 23:17
  It's
• 23:17
  not
• 23:17
  a
• 23:17
  place
• 23:18
  you
• 23:18
  have
• 23:18
  to
• 23:18
  worry
• 23:18
  about
• 23:19
  anymore.
• 23:20
  Yeah.
• 23:20
  It
• 23:21
  was
• 23:21
  one
• 23:21
  of
• 23:21
  those
• 23:21
  coups
• 23:22
  that
• 23:22
  didn't
• 23:22
  destroy
• 23:23
  the
• 23:23
  country
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  they
• 23:24
  just
• 23:24
  sort
• 23:24
  of
• 23:24
  reorganized
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  went
• 23:25
  forward.
• 23:26
  It
• 23:26
  happened
• 23:26
  during,
• 23:26
  I
• 23:27
  think,
• 23:27
  one
• 23:27
  of
• 23:27
  the
• 23:27
  season's
• 23:28
  productions
• 23:28
  of
• 23:28
  Survivor,
• 23:29
  even.
• 23:30
  So
• 23:30
  that
• 23:30
  does
• 23:30
  happen
• 23:30
  from
• 23:31
  time
• 23:31
  to
• 23:31
  time,
• 23:31
  but
• 23:31
  that's
• 23:31
  not
• 23:31
  unusual
• 23:32
  among
• 23:32
  smaller
• 23:33
  countries.
• 23:33
  They
• 23:33
  just
• 23:33
  sort
• 23:33
  of
• 23:34
  regroup
• 23:34
  and
• 23:34
  then
• 23:35
  things
• 23:35
  happen
• 23:35
  again,
• 23:35
  and
• 23:35
  the
• 23:35
  tourists
• 23:36
  were
• 23:36
  never
• 23:37
  in
• 23:37
  danger
• 23:38
  because
• 23:38
  these
• 23:38
  people
• 23:38
  know
• 23:39
  very
• 23:39
  well
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  tourism
• 23:40
  is
• 23:40
  the
• 23:40
  lifeblood
• 23:41
  of
• 23:41
  Fiji,
• 23:41
  and
• 23:41
  nobody
• 23:41
  wants
• 23:42
  to
• 23:42
  destroy
• 23:42
  that.
• 23:43
  Yeah.
• 23:43
  But
• 23:44
  it's
• 23:44
  fine
• 23:44
  now,
• 23:44
  as
• 23:44
  you're
• 23:45
  saying.
• 23:45
  Yeah.
• 23:45
  Yes.
• 23:46
  Moving
• 23:46
  from
• 23:47
  a
• 23:47
  little
• 23:48
  country
• 23:49
  to
• 23:49
  a
• 23:49
  huge
• 23:49
  one.
• 23:50
  I'm
• 23:51
  talking
• 23:51
  about
• 23:51
  the
• 23:52
  United
• 23:52
  States.
• 23:53
  It
• 23:53
  is
• 23:54
  our
• 23:54
  250th
• 23:56
  birthday,
• 23:57
  and
• 23:58
  there
• 23:58
  are
• 23:58
  going
• 23:58
  to
• 23:59
  be
• 23:59
  celebrations
• 24:00
  across
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  United
• 24:01
  States.
• 24:02
  And
• 24:02
  this
• 24:02
  was
• 24:03
  a
• 24:03
  tricky
• 24:03
  one
• 24:03
  to
• 24:04
  write
• 24:04
  about
• 24:04
  because
• 24:05
  unfortunately,
• 24:06
  some
• 24:06
  of
• 24:07
  the
• 24:07
  celebrations,
• 24:08
  it
• 24:08
  looks
• 24:08
  like,
• 24:09
  are
• 24:09
  becoming
• 24:10
  quite
• 24:10
  partisan
• 24:11
  and
• 24:12
  have
• 24:12
  less
• 24:12
  to
• 24:12
  do
• 24:12
  with
• 24:13
  history
• 24:13
  than
• 24:14
  they
• 24:14
  do
• 24:14
  with
• 24:14
  current
• 24:15
  events.
• 24:16
  However,
• 24:17
  people
• 24:17
  have
• 24:17
  been
• 24:18
  planning
• 24:18
  for
• 24:19
  this
• 24:19
  since
• 24:20
  well
• 24:20
  before
• 24:20
  the
• 24:21
  current
• 24:21
  moment.
• 24:22
  And
• 24:22
  we
• 24:23
  have
• 24:23
  a
• 24:23
  lot
• 24:23
  of
• 24:23
  historians
• 24:24
  and
• 24:25
  civic
• 24:26
  leaders
• 24:26
  of
• 24:26
  small
• 24:27
  towns
• 24:27
  and
• 24:28
  cities
• 24:29
  who
• 24:29
  are
• 24:29
  putting
• 24:30
  on
• 24:30
  what
• 24:31
  should
• 24:31
  be
• 24:32
  historically
• 24:33
  accurate,
• 24:34
  joyous,
• 24:35
  nonpartisan
• 24:37
  celebrations.
• 24:39
  So,
• 24:39
  for
• 24:39
  example,
• 24:40
  in
• 24:40
  Boston,
• 24:41
  they
• 24:41
  are
• 24:41
  redoing
• 24:42
  the
• 24:42
  Freedom
• 24:43
  Trail
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  bring
• 24:44
  in
• 24:45
  more
• 24:45
  stories
• 24:46
  from
• 24:46
  women
• 24:47
  and
• 24:47
  from
• 24:48
  indigenous
• 24:49
  people.
• 24:49
  Both
• 24:50
  Colonial
• 24:51
  Williamsburg
• 24:52
  and
• 24:52
  Mount
• 24:53
  Vernon,
• 24:53
  home
• 24:54
  of
• 24:54
  George
• 24:54
  Washington
• 24:55
  in
• 24:55
  Virginia,
• 24:57
  are
• 24:57
  coming
• 24:57
  up
• 24:57
  with
• 24:58
  brand
• 24:58
  new
• 24:59
  ways
• 25:00
  of
• 25:00
  telling
• 25:00
  the
• 25:01
  stories
• 25:01
  they
• 25:01
  tell
• 25:02
  so
• 25:02
  well
• 25:03
  about
• 25:03
  the
• 25:03
  Revolutionary
• 25:04
  era
• 25:05
  period
• 25:05
  and
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  period
• 25:06
  right
• 25:06
  after
• 25:06
  that.
• 25:07
  So
• 25:07
  lots
• 25:07
  of
• 25:08
  exciting
• 25:08
  things
• 25:08
  in
• 25:08
  Virginia.
• 25:09
  New
• 25:10
  York
• 25:10
  City
• 25:11
  always
• 25:11
  has
• 25:12
  a
• 25:12
  great
• 25:13
  fireworks
• 25:13
  display,
• 25:14
  and
• 25:15
  now
• 25:15
  we
• 25:15
  have
• 25:15
  two
• 25:15
  really
• 25:16
  great
• 25:16
  local
• 25:17
  history
• 25:17
  museums.
• 25:18
  There
• 25:18
  is
• 25:19
  the
• 25:19
  New
• 25:19
  York
• 25:19
  Historical,
• 25:21
  and
• 25:21
  that's
• 25:21
  the
• 25:21
  name,
• 25:22
  which
• 25:22
  I
• 25:22
  hate.
• 25:23
  It
• 25:23
  used
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  be
• 25:23
  the
• 25:24
  New
• 25:24
  York
• 25:24
  Historical
• 25:25
  Society,
• 25:26
  but
• 25:26
  they
• 25:26
  lopped
• 25:27
  off
• 25:27
  society,
• 25:28
  so
• 25:29
  now
• 25:29
  it's
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  New
• 25:29
  York
• 25:30
  Historical.
• 25:31
  What?
• 25:31
  Not
• 25:31
  the
• 25:32
  New
• 25:32
  York.
• 25:34
  Yeah,
• 25:34
  yeah.
• 25:35
  It's
• 25:35
  just.
• 25:36
  It's
• 25:36
  just
• 25:36
  weird.
• 25:37
  Anyway,
• 25:38
  they
• 25:38
  still
• 25:38
  do
• 25:38
  a
• 25:38
  good
• 25:39
  job,
• 25:39
  and
• 25:39
  they're
• 25:40
  going
• 25:40
  to
• 25:40
  have
• 25:40
  a
• 25:41
  whole
• 25:41
  year's
• 25:42
  worth
• 25:42
  of
• 25:42
  really
• 25:43
  intelligent
• 25:44
  exhibitions
• 25:45
  on
• 25:45
  things
• 25:45
  like
• 25:46
  women's
• 25:46
  roles
• 25:47
  during
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  Revolution.
• 25:48
  They'll
• 25:48
  have
• 25:48
  revolutionary
• 25:49
  artifacts.
• 25:51
  They'll
• 25:51
  have
• 25:51
  a
• 25:51
  lot
• 25:52
  to
• 25:52
  see
• 25:52
  and
• 25:52
  do
• 25:53
  there.
• 25:53
  The
• 25:53
  second
• 25:54
  museum
• 25:54
  is
• 25:54
  the
• 25:54
  Museum
• 25:55
  of
• 25:55
  the
• 25:55
  City
• 25:55
  of
• 25:56
  New
• 25:56
  York.
• 25:56
  And
• 25:56
  it's
• 25:57
  mounting
• 25:58
  a
• 25:58
  7,000
• 25:59
  square
• 25:59
  foot
• 26:00
  exhibition
• 26:01
  about
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  British
• 26:02
  occupation
• 26:03
  of
• 26:03
  New
• 26:03
  York
• 26:04
  City
• 26:04
  during
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
  war,
• 26:05
  which
• 26:05
  was
• 26:06
  quite
• 26:06
  a
• 26:06
  dramatic
• 26:07
  time.
• 26:07
  The
• 26:07
  colonists
• 26:08
  purposefully
• 26:09
  burned
• 26:10
  down
• 26:10
  Trinity
• 26:11
  Church
• 26:12
  because
• 26:12
  that
• 26:12
  was
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  tallest
• 26:13
  building
• 26:13
  in
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  city
• 26:14
  and
• 26:15
  it
• 26:15
  was
• 26:15
  a
• 26:15
  landmark.
• 26:16
  And
• 26:16
  they
• 26:16
  knew
• 26:17
  without
• 26:17
  that
• 26:18
  church
• 26:18
  would
• 26:18
  be
• 26:18
  harder
• 26:19
  for
• 26:19
  the
• 26:19
  British
• 26:19
  to
• 26:20
  find
• 26:20
  their
• 26:20
  way
• 26:20
  around.
• 26:21
  So
• 26:21
  they
• 26:21
  purposefully
• 26:22
  burned,
• 26:22
  burnt
• 26:22
  it
• 26:22
  down.
• 26:23
  So
• 26:23
  lots
• 26:24
  of
• 26:24
  drama,
• 26:24
  lots
• 26:25
  of
• 26:25
  interest
• 26:26
  in
• 26:26
  those
• 26:26
  stories.
• 26:27
  And
• 26:27
  apparently
• 26:28
  rumor
• 26:28
  has
• 26:29
  it
• 26:29
  that
• 26:29
  Hamilton,
• 26:30
  the
• 26:30
  Broadway
• 26:31
  musical,
• 26:31
  is
• 26:32
  going
• 26:32
  to
• 26:32
  be
• 26:32
  doing
• 26:32
  something
• 26:33
  special,
• 26:33
  but
• 26:34
  we
• 26:34
  don't
• 26:34
  know
• 26:34
  what
• 26:35
  yet.
• 26:36
  I'm
• 26:36
  thinking
• 26:36
  they're
• 26:37
  going
• 26:37
  to
• 26:37
  add
• 26:37
  tap
• 26:37
  dancing
• 26:38
  to
• 26:38
  the
• 26:39
  show.
• 26:39
  It's
• 26:40
  about
• 26:40
  time.
• 26:41
  That
• 26:41
  would
• 26:41
  be
• 26:41
  revolutionary.
• 26:43
  Right.
• 26:44
  And
• 26:45
  you
• 26:45
  have.
• 26:45
  And
• 26:45
  of
• 26:46
  course,
• 26:46
  Philadelphia
• 26:47
  will
• 26:47
  be
• 26:47
  doing
• 26:47
  a
• 26:48
  lot
• 26:48
  of
• 26:48
  things,
• 26:48
  but
• 26:48
  you
• 26:49
  also
• 26:49
  have
• 26:50
  cities
• 26:50
  that
• 26:50
  weren't
• 26:51
  in
• 26:51
  the
• 26:51
  original
• 26:52
  colonies
• 26:53
  that
• 26:53
  are
• 26:53
  also
• 26:54
  launching
• 26:55
  250th
• 26:56
  celebrations,
• 26:57
  like
• 26:58
  at
• 26:58
  Epcot
• 26:59
  and
• 26:59
  at
• 26:59
  Disney
• 26:59
  California
• 27:00
  Adventure.
• 27:01
  They're
• 27:01
  doing
• 27:01
  a
• 27:01
  new
• 27:02
  version
• 27:02
  of
• 27:03
  Soaring
• 27:04
  or
• 27:04
  Soarin.
• 27:05
  Right.
• 27:05
  Because
• 27:06
  it's
• 27:07
  Soarin.
• 27:08
  Drop
• 27:08
  the
• 27:08
  G
• 27:08
  during
• 27:09
  flight.
• 27:09
  Right.
• 27:09
  So
• 27:10
  how
• 27:10
  would,
• 27:10
  how
• 27:10
  would
• 27:10
  you
• 27:11
  describe
• 27:11
  Soarin?
• 27:12
  What
• 27:12
  is
• 27:12
  Soarin?
• 27:13
  It's
• 27:14
  Grandma's
• 27:14
  favorite
• 27:14
  ride.
• 27:15
  It's.
• 27:15
  You
• 27:15
  basically
• 27:16
  sit
• 27:16
  on
• 27:16
  a
• 27:16
  bench
• 27:17
  and
• 27:17
  then
• 27:17
  you're
• 27:17
  lifted
• 27:17
  up
• 27:18
  in
• 27:18
  front
• 27:18
  of
• 27:18
  a
• 27:18
  screen
• 27:19
  and
• 27:19
  it
• 27:19
  feels
• 27:19
  like
• 27:19
  you're
• 27:19
  flying
• 27:19
  on
• 27:20
  a
• 27:20
  hang
• 27:20
  glider
• 27:20
  with
• 27:21
  beautiful
• 27:21
  smells
• 27:22
  and
• 27:22
  wind
• 27:22
  and
• 27:22
  stuff.
• 27:23
  It's.
• 27:23
  Everybody
• 27:24
  loves
• 27:24
  it.
• 27:24
  And
• 27:25
  you
• 27:25
  see
• 27:25
  different
• 27:26
  parts
• 27:26
  of
• 27:26
  California,
• 27:27
  but
• 27:27
  now
• 27:28
  it's
• 27:28
  California.
• 27:29
  Then
• 27:29
  they
• 27:29
  did
• 27:29
  a
• 27:29
  version
• 27:30
  of
• 27:30
  places
• 27:30
  all
• 27:30
  around
• 27:30
  the
• 27:31
  world,
• 27:31
  but
• 27:31
  they're
• 27:32
  doing
• 27:32
  a
• 27:32
  third
• 27:32
  new
• 27:32
  version,
• 27:33
  a
• 27:33
  brand
• 27:33
  new
• 27:33
  one
• 27:33
  that
• 27:33
  hasn't
• 27:34
  been
• 27:34
  revealed
• 27:34
  or
• 27:34
  hasn't
• 27:35
  been
• 27:35
  shown
• 27:35
  yet.
• 27:35
  And
• 27:36
  you
• 27:36
  were
• 27:36
  going
• 27:36
  to
• 27:36
  describe
• 27:36
  that.
• 27:37
  That's
• 27:37
  for
• 27:37
  next
• 27:37
  year.
• 27:38
  Right.
• 27:38
  And
• 27:39
  that's
• 27:39
  going
• 27:39
  to
• 27:39
  be
• 27:40
  all
• 27:40
  the
• 27:41
  top
• 27:41
  places
• 27:42
  of
• 27:42
  the
• 27:42
  United
• 27:43
  States.
• 27:43
  I'm
• 27:43
  sure
• 27:44
  Disney
• 27:44
  will
• 27:44
  be
• 27:44
  one
• 27:44
  of
• 27:44
  them
• 27:45
  because
• 27:45
  they
• 27:46
  always
• 27:46
  end
• 27:46
  in
• 27:46
  Disney.
• 27:46
  Yeah.
• 27:47
  And
• 27:48
  Branson,
• 27:48
  Missouri
• 27:49
  is
• 27:49
  going
• 27:49
  to
• 27:49
  try
• 27:49
  and
• 27:50
  set
• 27:50
  a
• 27:50
  Guinness
• 27:50
  Book
• 27:51
  of
• 27:51
  World
• 27:51
  Records
• 27:52
  because,
• 27:52
  yeah,
• 27:52
  they're.
• 27:53
  Branson,
• 27:53
  Missouri.
• 27:54
  They're
• 27:54
  going
• 27:54
  to
• 27:54
  try
• 27:55
  and
• 27:55
  display
• 27:55
  the
• 27:56
  most
• 27:56
  flags
• 27:57
  ever
• 27:57
  displayed
• 27:58
  in
• 27:58
  one
• 27:58
  destination.
• 27:59
  I'm
• 28:00
  not
• 28:00
  sure
• 28:00
  if
• 28:00
  that's
• 28:00
  a
• 28:00
  reason
• 28:01
  to
• 28:01
  go,
• 28:01
  but
• 28:01
  it's
• 28:02
  kind
• 28:02
  of
• 28:02
  interesting.
• 28:03
  And
• 28:03
  Wyoming
• 28:04
  is
• 28:04
  going
• 28:04
  to
• 28:05
  have
• 28:05
  statewide
• 28:06
  what
• 28:07
  they're
• 28:07
  calling
• 28:07
  historic
• 28:08
  reflections,
• 28:09
  like
• 28:10
  an
• 28:10
  indigenous
• 28:11
  audio
• 28:11
  tour
• 28:12
  of
• 28:12
  the
• 28:13
  Wind
• 28:13
  River
• 28:13
  Canyon
• 28:14
  and
• 28:14
  a
• 28:15
  traveling
• 28:15
  exhibit
• 28:16
  of
• 28:16
  Western
• 28:17
  craftsmanships
• 28:18
  from
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  Cowboy
• 28:19
  Trades
• 28:20
  Association.
• 28:21
  Did
• 28:21
  you
• 28:21
  know
• 28:21
  there
• 28:21
  was
• 28:22
  a
• 28:22
  Cowboy
• 28:22
  Trades
• 28:23
  Association?
• 28:23
  And
• 28:24
  what
• 28:24
  do
• 28:24
  you
• 28:24
  think
• 28:24
  they
• 28:24
  specialize
• 28:25
  in?
• 28:25
  Spurs.
• 28:26
  Good
• 28:27
  question.
• 28:28
  Making,
• 28:28
  I
• 28:28
  don't
• 28:28
  know,
• 28:29
  beans
• 28:29
  over
• 28:29
  a
• 28:30
  fire.
• 28:30
  I
• 28:30
  don't
• 28:30
  know.
• 28:30
  What
• 28:31
  are
• 28:31
  the
• 28:31
  cowboy
• 28:31
  trades
• 28:32
  besides,
• 28:33
  you
• 28:33
  know,
• 28:33
  wrangling
• 28:34
  cattle?
• 28:34
  Cattle
• 28:34
  rustling.
• 28:35
  I
• 28:35
  don't
• 28:36
  know.
• 28:36
  Anyway,
• 28:36
  you
• 28:36
  know
• 28:36
  what
• 28:36
  I
• 28:37
  find
• 28:37
  really
• 28:37
  cool
• 28:37
  and
• 28:37
  interesting
• 28:38
  is
• 28:38
  a
• 28:38
  lot
• 28:38
  of
• 28:38
  these
• 28:39
  exhibitions
• 28:39
  and
• 28:40
  plans
• 28:40
  that
• 28:40
  are
• 28:40
  being
• 28:40
  made
• 28:41
  are
• 28:41
  commemorating
• 28:42
  history.
• 28:42
  They're
• 28:42
  about
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  revolution
• 28:44
  that
• 28:44
  began
• 28:45
  everything
• 28:45
  and
• 28:45
  why
• 28:46
  we
• 28:46
  decided
• 28:47
  that
• 28:47
  a
• 28:47
  revolution
• 28:48
  was
• 28:48
  necessary.
• 28:49
  You're
• 28:49
  seeing
• 28:49
  that
• 28:49
  common
• 28:50
  thread
• 28:50
  among
• 28:50
  many
• 28:51
  of
• 28:51
  the
• 28:51
  things
• 28:51
  that
• 28:51
  are
• 28:51
  being
• 28:51
  announced
• 28:52
  for
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  250th.
• 28:53
  So
• 28:53
  I
• 28:53
  think
• 28:53
  a
• 28:53
  lot
• 28:54
  of
• 28:54
  Americans
• 28:54
  are
• 28:54
  going
• 28:54
  to
• 28:54
  learn
• 28:54
  for
• 28:55
  the
• 28:55
  very
• 28:55
  first
• 28:55
  time
• 28:55
  about
• 28:55
  the
• 28:56
  roots
• 28:56
  of
• 28:56
  their
• 28:56
  country
• 28:56
  and
• 28:57
  how
• 28:57
  it
• 28:57
  was
• 28:57
  established.
• 28:58
  Absolutely.
• 28:59
  A
• 28:59
  government
• 29:00
  of
• 29:00
  the
• 29:00
  people
• 29:01
  for
• 29:01
  the
• 29:01
  people,
• 29:02
  as
• 29:02
  I
• 29:02
  think
• 29:02
  Lincoln
• 29:03
  said,
• 29:04
  was
• 29:04
  at
• 29:05
  the
• 29:05
  core
• 29:05
  of
• 29:06
  our
• 29:06
  founding.
• 29:07
  And
• 29:08
  relearning
• 29:09
  the
• 29:09
  history
• 29:10
  at
• 29:10
  this
• 29:11
  particular
• 29:11
  time.
• 29:12
  Time,
• 29:13
  I
• 29:13
  think,
• 29:13
  is
• 29:13
  a
• 29:14
  very,
• 29:14
  very
• 29:14
  important
• 29:15
  exercise.
• 29:16
  So
• 29:16
  do
• 29:17
  a
• 29:17
  job
• 29:17
  that
• 29:17
  schools
• 29:17
  haven't
• 29:18
  done
• 29:18
  a
• 29:18
  great,
• 29:18
  great
• 29:19
  job
• 29:19
  in
• 29:19
  civics
• 29:20
  classes
• 29:20
  lately.
• 29:20
  People
• 29:20
  are
• 29:20
  going
• 29:21
  to
• 29:21
  be
• 29:21
  learning
• 29:21
  through
• 29:21
  these
• 29:21
  celebrations
• 29:22
  instead.
• 29:23
  Yeah.
• 29:23
  Yeah.
• 29:24
  So
• 29:24
  I'm
• 29:25
  actually
• 29:25
  really
• 29:25
  happy
• 29:26
  these
• 29:26
  celebrations
• 29:26
  are
• 29:27
  happening
• 29:27
  next
• 29:27
  year.
• 29:28
  I
• 29:28
  think
• 29:28
  the
• 29:28
  timing
• 29:29
  couldn't
• 29:29
  be
• 29:29
  better.
• 29:30
  And
• 29:30
  on
• 29:30
  that
• 29:30
  note,
• 29:31
  we
• 29:32
  will
• 29:32
  say
• 29:33
  stay
• 29:33
  tuned
• 29:34
  for
• 29:36
  the
• 29:36
  final
• 29:37
  destinations
• 29:38
  that
• 29:39
  you
• 29:39
  should
• 29:39
  go
• 29:40
  to
• 29:41
  next
• 29:41
  year.
• 29:42
  We
• 29:42
  will
• 29:42
  talk
• 29:43
  about
• 29:43
  those
• 29:43
  next
• 29:43
  week.
• 29:44
  Thank
• 29:44
  you
• 29:45
  so
• 29:45
  much,
• 29:45
  Zach
• 29:46
  and
• 29:46
  Jason.
• 29:47
  Thanks,
• 29:47
  Pauline.
• 29:48
  All
• 29:48
  right,
• 29:48
  that's
• 29:49
  it
• 29:49
  for
• 29:49
  this
• 29:49
  week's
• 29:49
  show.
• 29:50
  I
• 29:50
  thank
• 29:50
  you
• 29:50
  so
• 29:50
  much
• 29:50
  for
• 29:50
  listening
• 29:51
  to
• 29:51
  those
• 29:51
  who
• 29:52
  are
• 29:52
  traveling.
• 29:53
  May
• 29:53
  I
• 29:53
  offer
• 29:54
  you
• 29:54
  a
• 29:54
  hearty
• 29:55
  bon
• 29:56
  voyage.
• 30:08
  Sour
• 30:09
  candy
• 30:10
  on
• 30:11
  the
• 30:11
  table
• 30:13
  Lazy
• 30:14
  afternoons
• 30:15
  in
• 30:15
  your
• 30:16
  sweatpants
• 30:17
  Watching
• 30:17
  cable
• 30:19
  well,
• 30:20
  it
• 30:20
  feels
• 30:21
  so
• 30:21
  far
• 30:21
  away
• 30:25
  all
• 30:25
  the
• 30:25
  channels
• 30:26
  seem
• 30:27
  the
• 30:27
  same
• 30:29
  Trying
• 30:30
  to
• 30:30
  remember
• 30:32
  all
• 30:32
  the
• 30:32
  songs
• 30:33
  we
• 30:33
  like
• 30:33
  to
• 30:33
  play.
• 30:34
  Cause
• 30:35
  those
• 30:35
  lazy
• 30:36
  afternoons
• 30:37
  don't
• 30:37
  come
• 30:37
  so
• 30:38
  frequently
• 30:38
  these
• 30:39
  days
• 30:41
  oh,
• 30:42
  it's
• 30:42
  been
• 30:43
  so
• 30:43
  long
• 30:45
  and
• 30:45
  I
• 30:45
  cannot
• 30:46
  help
• 30:46
  but
• 30:47
  wonder
• 30:47
  Are
• 30:48
  you
• 30:48
  ever
• 30:49
  coming
• 30:49
  home?
• 30:50
  I
• 30:50
  like
• 30:51
  you
• 30:51
  with
• 30:51
  your
• 30:52
  sour
• 30:52
  candy
• 30:53
  in
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  boathous
• 30:54
  on
• 30:54
  the
• 30:55
  lake
• 30:55
  oh,
• 30:56
  but
• 30:56
  I
• 30:56
  hate,
• 30:57
  I
• 30:57
  hate,
• 30:57
  I
• 30:58
  hate,
• 30:58
  I
• 30:58
  hate,
• 30:58
  I
• 30:59
  hate,
• 31:00
  I
• 31:00
  hate
• 31:01
  the
• 31:01
  way
• 31:01
  it.