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Credlin | 28 October · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peedo Kranbland Live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. He what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Kredline. More bad us for Australian manufacturing. Our
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Speaker 2: largest smeltered Tomicgo Aluminium in talks about shutting down now.
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Speaker 2: If it does, it will spell the beginning of the
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Speaker 2: end for heavy industry in this country as our ever
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Speaker 2: increasing power costs and business and jobs offshore. So much
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Speaker 2: for the scam of Labour's future made in Australia. In
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Speaker 2: a first glimpse of what Victoria's treaty will look like,
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Speaker 2: we've learned today that Indigenous patients are being fast tracked
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Speaker 2: for care through emergency departments at a major Melbourne hospital,
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Speaker 2: whether they warrant it or not. It's all based on
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Speaker 2: their skin color, not immediate medical need or in that.
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Speaker 2: In a moment, Lass will cross live to the UK
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Speaker 2: and find out what two inspirational brothers are doing it
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Speaker 2: to turn around the lives of British boys. It's a
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Speaker 2: remarkable story of hope and I'm I think we need
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Speaker 2: this program in Australia before we lose a whole generation.
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Speaker 2: And the secret advice that's no longer secret, proving that
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Speaker 2: the Albanezer government was officially warned the power prices would
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Speaker 2: continue to increase, largely due to their green energy madness.
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Speaker 3: This government's net zero agenda is completely failing.
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Speaker 4: It's failing on its own terms.
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Speaker 2: But first, the looming shutdown of the Tomico aluminum smelter
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Speaker 2: is a dreadful milestone in the deindutization of Australia. Now,
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Speaker 2: make no mistake, Rio Tinto would not have begun talks
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Speaker 2: with its workforce about closing the doors in twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: eight if it had not come to a considered judgment.
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Speaker 2: The plant is unlikely to be economic. And if Tomogo
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Speaker 2: is uneconomic, pretty soon all the other heavy industrial plants
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Speaker 2: currently talking to government about the need for subsidies are
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Speaker 2: also likely to be uneconomic. That's the steel plant at Waiela,
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Speaker 2: a copper smelter at Mount Eiser, and other smelters at
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Speaker 2: Portpiri and Hobart. By starting talks with workers today, Tomigo
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Speaker 2: is the canary in the coal mine. The heavy industry
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Speaker 2: Australia only has two comparative economic advantages. Our access to
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Speaker 2: raw bit materials and cheap power thanks to abundant coal
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Speaker 2: We've never had a big domestic market and we've certainly
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Speaker 2: never had competitive labor costs. And now by making resource
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Speaker 2: approvals almost impossible to get, there's less access to our
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Speaker 2: raw materials. And with climate policy making electricity artificially expensive
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Speaker 2: and stopping dead fossil fuel projects that incentive to make
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Speaker 2: things in Australia, well that's gone too. This is a
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Speaker 2: catastrophe for our long term future as a serious country
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Speaker 2: under labor.
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Speaker 5: There have been closures as a Banana and Kalgoley smelters
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Speaker 5: in Wa, emergency bailouts in Hobart Wayala, Port Pirie and
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Speaker 5: Mount iSER, and mayday calls from Balbay and Boyne smelters.
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Speaker 5: How can labor promise a future made in Australia when
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Speaker 5: all it actually delivers is future shutdowns, future job losses
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Speaker 5: and higher energy prices?
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Speaker 6: Today, Tomogo Aluminium said and I quote finding competitively priced
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Speaker 6: energy remains a central challenge. How can labor promise of
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Speaker 6: future made in Australia when all it can actually deliver
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Speaker 6: is higher energy prices.
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Speaker 2: What's now obvious is that we're only going to keep
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Speaker 2: heavy in this industry in Australia if it's subsidized by taxpayers.
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Speaker 2: But that just makes the whole country poorer. And it's
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Speaker 2: all because under labor we're deliberately making electricity more expensive
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Speaker 2: than it should be to meet ridiculous net zero targets.
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Speaker 2: At least we can be grateful. I suppose that Tomogo
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Speaker 2: has bell the cap of for Friday, giving the Coalition
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Speaker 2: all the evidence it needs that it must reject net
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Speaker 2: zero before it's too late, and to start to educate
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Speaker 2: Australians about what's really at stake if we pursue policy
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Speaker 2: that's killing us economically while doing absolutely nothing for global emissions.
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Speaker 2: Today too, we learned that the government was warned about
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Speaker 2: this right after the election. Thanks to diligent pursuit of
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Speaker 2: the incoming Minister's Brief that's prepared after every election, we
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Speaker 2: now know that the Albanizi government was officially advised in
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Speaker 2: May that electricity prices would continue their relentless rise, largely
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Speaker 2: thanks to an emission's reduction crusade that was failing. As
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Speaker 2: reported in The Australian Today, the official post election advice
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Speaker 2: to Energy Minister Chris Bowen was that and I quote,
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Speaker 2: a further significant increase in electricity prices was likely when
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Speaker 2: I went to the government try to keep the advice
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Speaker 2: secret and was only forced to release it in a
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Speaker 2: very heavily redacted form n by a resolution of the.
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Speaker 5: Senate under pressure from Senator Dean Smith. In the other place,
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Speaker 5: Labour has finally released a secret government document which warns
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Speaker 5: of a quote further significant increase in retail electricity prices.
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Speaker 5: It was also revealed that the Clerk of the Senate
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Speaker 5: called Labour's obfiscation quote not acceptable. Why did this minister
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Speaker 5: do everything he could to hide this document from the
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Speaker 5: Australian public instead of doing everything he could to reduce
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Speaker 5: power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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Speaker 2: This is a government that's been consistently deceptive from power prices,
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Speaker 2: notoriously promising almost one hundred times to cut your power
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Speaker 2: bill by two hundred and seventy five dollars per household
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Speaker 2: per year by twenty twenty five. In fact, you know
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Speaker 2: you builds of skyrocketed. Indeed, from mid twenty twenty two
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Speaker 2: to now, the rise in the essential energy to fault
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Speaker 2: market offer for household consumers in New South Wales has
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Speaker 2: risen by thirty one percent. The tomicgo smelter is now
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Speaker 2: on death row because there's no reliable col fired power
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Speaker 2: to bring prices down. And that's why the debate about
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Speaker 2: net zero inside the Coalition really matters. Unless someone stands
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Speaker 2: up on this issue, unless someone's prepared to say this
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Speaker 2: net zero emperor's got no clothes, Well, Australia is then
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Speaker 2: out the back door as a manufacturing country. We're gone
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Speaker 2: as a place of heavy industry and blue collar jobs.
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Speaker 2: And if that happens, believe me, industry will be gone
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Speaker 2: forever and we will then hasten our slide into economic irrelevance. Now,
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Speaker 2: my argument against the Voice and the Whole Voice Treaty
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Speaker 2: truth you know twenty eight pages of the ulary statement
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Speaker 2: agender was that it would create two classes of Australian citizen,
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Speaker 2: ordinary Australians on the one hand, and so called special
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Speaker 2: Australians on the other, those whose ancestry predated seventeen eighty
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Speaker 2: eight and who'd get special treatment as a result and
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Speaker 2: a special stay. And in every state by a majority
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Speaker 2: of Australian voters, we rejected race based division, but that
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Speaker 2: hasn't stopped green left governments and ideologically captured institutions from
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Speaker 2: pushing on anyway with an indigenous separatist agenda. Today we
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Speaker 2: learn that this even extends to giving Indigenous people a
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Speaker 2: special fast track at a hospital emergency department. Saint Vincent's
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Speaker 2: Hospital in Melbourne is part of the whitest Saint Vincent's
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Speaker 2: Health Australia network of hospitals, originally run by the Catholic
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Speaker 2: Sisters of Charity. Last year, the hospital introduced a policy
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Speaker 2: that Indigenous patients weresenting to the emergency ward would automatically
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Speaker 2: be assigned to triage Category three. They're supposed to be
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Speaker 2: seen as urgent within thirty minutes. Now they are assigned
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Speaker 2: as urgent, whether they need to or not in medical terms,
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Speaker 2: because they're Indigenous. Now. This was done, the hospital claims
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Speaker 2: because research showed First Nations patients were waiting on average
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Speaker 2: longer and were more likely to remain engaged with care
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Speaker 2: if seen within the first hour of ed presentation. But
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Speaker 2: if Indigenous patients really were waiting longer, well, surely they
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Speaker 2: would have been waiting longer because their cases were less urgent.
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Speaker 2: And if that's right, and their cases were less urgent,
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Speaker 2: then why should they jump the que based on their race.
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Speaker 2: Other hospitals in the Savincent's network reportedly emphasized what they
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Speaker 2: call culturally safe care or pathway support, but seemingly do
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Speaker 2: not automatically classify Indigenous patients as urgent. But rather than
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Speaker 2: being called out for dividing patients based on the color
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Speaker 2: of their skin rather than medical need, Since Vincent's in
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Speaker 2: Melbourne's now been nominated for an award for its race
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Speaker 2: based discrimination, and the citation for this Victorian Public Healthcare
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Speaker 2: award reportedly reads that Saint Vincent's First Nation's patients are
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Speaker 2: now seeing more promptly than non indigenous patients. This is
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Speaker 2: simply wrong. This is medical apartheid. I can't describe it
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Speaker 2: as anything else. But when asked about ranking patients based
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Speaker 2: on race rather than medical need, she did a rejected
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Speaker 2: In fact, Victorian Premier Jacinda Allen she backed it in.
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Speaker 7: I think this is a good example of hospital leadership
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Speaker 7: looking at their data and improving their processes and systems
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Speaker 7: to get better health outcomes for particularly vulnerable groups in
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Speaker 7: our community. First peoples have poorer outcomes. First people have
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Speaker 7: been waiting and St Vincent's have done some work, have
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Speaker 7: been waiting longer to be treated and are putting in
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Speaker 7: place an initiative that supports that principle of treating everyone
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Speaker 7: who comes through the ed in that triarged way of
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Speaker 7: treating the sickest patient's quickest.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, this isn't about treating the sickest patients quickest.
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Speaker 2: That's the whole problem. What you're supporting is a health
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Speaker 2: system based not on what you need, not on how
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Speaker 2: sick you are, but on the color of your skin.
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Speaker 2: And if you think this is shocking, just wait, There'll
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Speaker 2: be more of this race based privilege if labors you
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Speaker 2: Indigenous Treaty Bill passes the Victorian Parliament. Now can you
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Speaker 2: imagine the outcry this edict was reversed if Aboriginal Victorians
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Speaker 2: went to the back of the queue rather than being
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Speaker 2: moved up because of their race, or if we made
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Speaker 2: Arab Australians wait longer than Greek ones, or if we
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Speaker 2: told Chinese Australians that Anglo Saxons would see a doctor
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Speaker 2: faster than them. I mean, at every level, this is wrong. Honestly,
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Speaker 2: what is happening to the color blind Australia we thought
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Speaker 2: we lived in. I'd busy down the Parliament to be now.
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Speaker 2: Sky's political Lettertor Andrew Clenell will start with the perennial
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Speaker 2: personality at the moment, Barnaby Joyce. He told the nine
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Speaker 2: newspapers Andrew this morning that he will not return to
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Speaker 2: the National's party room this year, but normally joined one nation.
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Speaker 2: He's putting up the decision, he says, until the new year.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm with him on net zero, but I mean,
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Speaker 2: this is getting fascical. What happens on Friday, or let's
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Speaker 2: say next week, if the coalition drops net zero? Is
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Speaker 2: Barnaby suddenly back on the coalition team or what we
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Speaker 2: wait until next year to find out.
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Speaker 4: I can't get an answer out of him.
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Speaker 8: I try at a doorstop, but I want to just
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Speaker 8: interrupt with some breaking news, Peter, if I may, Our
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Speaker 8: colleague Cameron Redden has just door stopped Kevin right in
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Speaker 8: the building. We are working on getting you that grab
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Speaker 8: and I've just had that from your producer in my
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Speaker 8: ear now. But Cameron Redden found out Kevin Rubb was
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Speaker 8: speaking at an event here camped outside with the Cameron
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Speaker 8: Jeff Crane, and they've got a few words out of him,
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Speaker 8: and it'll be the first public comments and sort of
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Speaker 8: question answer with a reporter since that now famous incident
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Speaker 8: in the White House when I asked about Donald Trump's
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Speaker 8: concerns of irritance in the relationship, and he upbraided Kevin
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Speaker 8: Rudd and of course Donald Trump at the helicopter Padath
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Speaker 8: a couple of days later then said, look, he might
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Speaker 8: have forgiven, but he doesn't forget. So excited to show
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Speaker 8: that to you in a few minutes when we have
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Speaker 8: that cut. But just repeating for your viewers, Kevin Rudd
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Speaker 8: has spoken to our reporter Cam Redd in a short
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Speaker 8: time ago here in Parliament House.
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Speaker 4: Now in terms of Barnaby, I'm with you.
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Speaker 8: I think he should just make a decision, shouldn't he.
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's not like Kevin Hogan, he says, like
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Speaker 8: Kevin Hogan was an Independent National so called Independent National
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Speaker 8: after another leadership Spillsaurce Morrison and the job he said
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Speaker 8: he was sick of changing pms, but he never flirted
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Speaker 8: with going to another party. And Barnaby Joyce clearly has
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Speaker 8: so he needs to make a decision.
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Speaker 4: Now. There is a school of thought in the Little.
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Speaker 8: Proud camp by the way, that perhaps Barnaby wants to
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Speaker 8: be martyred and they're not going to do that. They're
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Speaker 8: just going to sit here and say, look, he's welcome
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Speaker 8: to join the party room again. So if that's Barnaby
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Speaker 8: Joyce's hope, and he does seem to be doing a
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Speaker 8: fair bit of attention seeking, my information is that's not
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Speaker 8: going to be rewarded. So he's going to be in
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Speaker 8: no man's land for a little while sitting with the Nationals,
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Speaker 8: not showing up to their party room.
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Speaker 2: I think Little Proud's got the right tactic there because
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Speaker 2: the thing I have to say to you, you know,
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Speaker 2: you're long out of the media. The thing the politician's
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Speaker 2: most fear is being irrelevant, not being talked about, And
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Speaker 2: if Barnaby's not talked about, I'll start that now on
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Speaker 2: my show. Until we get a decision from him. I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to talk about him either, but he's not
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Speaker 2: talked about, That's what we'll get under his skin more
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Speaker 2: than anything else. The Kevin Rudd, do we know from
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Speaker 2: cam Redden why he was in Australia, What is the
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Speaker 2: event he is speaking at, because he's curious to me
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Speaker 2: that that is not usually due for his midterm consultations
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Speaker 2: until probably the end of the beginning of next year
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Speaker 2: or midway into next year. So the idea that he
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Speaker 2: is home, whether he's coming back to do briefings maybe
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Speaker 2: for the department, or whether he's coming back to work
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Speaker 2: out his exit from the job, that will be we
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Speaker 2: know why he's in Canberra.
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Speaker 8: Oh, he can only speculate on that. All Anthony Albanez
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Speaker 8: he said in Washington is he's been appointed for a
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Speaker 8: four year term. He didn't necessarily say by the way
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Speaker 8: he'd served the four year term, but perhaps that's a
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Speaker 8: bit here you go on.
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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, I've got good intel
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Speaker 2: out of very senior ranks, not the chiefest staff, but
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Speaker 2: pretty body well close to the chiefest Staff, that the
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Speaker 2: animus in the administration towards Kevin Ruhard is not going
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Speaker 2: to abate. I think the President decided not to pick
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Speaker 2: a fight with the Prime Minister. He's in a make
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Speaker 2: love not war sort of motors. You see him get
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Speaker 2: around Southeast Asia. But very much in relation to mister
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Speaker 2: rud he is persona non grata when it comes to
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Speaker 2: that West wing.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think that was obvious from my exchange with
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Speaker 8: the President Peter, because I said I gave him an
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Speaker 8: opportunity to complain about Palestine climate change or Kevin or
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Speaker 8: the ambassador's comments and he went straight for the juggler
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Speaker 8: for the ambassador.
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Speaker 4: We have it now, let's have a listen. Peter, good,
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 9: Don I haven't seen you for a while. It's good
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Speaker 9: to be back in Canberra. I'm here with the Trade Minister.
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Speaker 9: We're speaking to a gathering of Australian business who want
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Speaker 9: to do a lot of business, investment and trade with
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Speaker 9: the United States, and that's what we're here to do.
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Speaker 2: It's good things up with President Trump.
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Speaker 5: He doesn't forget people who quotes well, do you know something?
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Speaker 9: You what I think is that the Prime Minister had
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Speaker 9: an excellent meeting with the President the United States and
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Speaker 9: we're here to do a job.
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Speaker 4: It's it good to patch things up with him.
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Speaker 10: Mister rup What do you think of those comments from
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Speaker 10: Donald Trump that he doesn't forget people who quote safe.
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Speaker 9: Well, you know what I would say is that I'm
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Speaker 9: from America and I'm here to help. And my name's Kevin.
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Speaker 8: I'm pro America and I'm here to help. So there
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Speaker 8: you go, just saying, you know something. Oh gosh, we
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Speaker 8: had to hear another Kevin Rudner. You know something? How
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Speaker 8: many times did we hear that when he was Prime Minister, Peter,
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Speaker 8: you know something, it was a good meeting, so it
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Speaker 8: sucked in. I mean, I think that's what he's basically saying,
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Speaker 8: isn't he But it was kind of it was some moment.
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Speaker 8: It was amazing to be there. And look, like you say,
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Speaker 8: it's obvious they got a problem with his previous comments,
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Speaker 8: and you can say, as the government does. Look, Rubio
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Speaker 8: said it that Advance criticized him. They're politicians, Kevin runs
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Speaker 8: an ambassador and a public servant, and I think this
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Speaker 8: speaks to the dangers of having a former PM as
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Speaker 8: an ambassador really. I mean, I know we've had opposition
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Speaker 8: leaders before Beasley and Peacock and Hockey and former treasurer,
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Speaker 8: but a form PM somewhat different, especially when they've made
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Speaker 8: public comments in the way that they have. Although he
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Speaker 8: was working with a think tank at the time and
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Speaker 8: it's just hard to get over.
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Speaker 4: And Donald Trump at the helicopter.
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Speaker 8: Pad the other day he said, look, I'm going to
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Speaker 8: a point an ambassador to Australia. We know this has
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Speaker 8: taken some time since Caroline Kennedy, but I want to
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Speaker 8: consult the PM first, And don't you think there's a
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Speaker 8: bit of a message in that.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 8: I'm not in the school who do not believe who
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Speaker 8: believed that Donald Trump did not know the bloke sitting
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Speaker 8: across the table from him and that he made comments before,
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Speaker 8: I do not believe that.
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Speaker 4: I was there. I was there. I was in the room,
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Speaker 4: and he knew the.
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Speaker 8: Guy, and he played it pretty kept cleverly. That's the
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Speaker 8: way that you know. And I wasn't looking for that,
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Speaker 8: by the way you heard me put it. A number
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Speaker 8: of things. I wanted the answer many Australians wanted, why
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Speaker 8: has this meeting taken so long? And are there any
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Speaker 8: hour in the relationship? Now I'm nominated the couple I was,
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Speaker 8: and he went for that one.
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Speaker 2: I was told in the pre meeting briefing that the
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Speaker 2: Rudd comments were relitigated with the president. They were brought
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Speaker 2: to the president's attention again. He was going to deal
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Speaker 2: with the Rudd issue in the private part of the meeting,
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Speaker 2: but you gave him a gift with that question, and
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Speaker 2: he decided to run with it and rebuke him publicly.
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Speaker 2: And when he mode those comments at the end of
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Speaker 2: the meeting, where he said, basically, I've sort of we've
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Speaker 2: moved on. All is forgiven, and that was not directed
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Speaker 2: at Rudd. That was directed at Albansy. He has decided
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Speaker 2: to move on from what Albanes he might have said
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Speaker 2: in the past leader to leader, but he certainly has
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Speaker 2: not moved on from Kevin Rudd. And I would invite
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Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd to prove me wrong and to seek a
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Speaker 2: meeting with the White House in the West wing, go
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Speaker 2: and see some of the administration there, and he'll be
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Speaker 2: very quickly told you're not getting a meeting mate. So
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Speaker 2: I think there'll be a move an out of Kevin
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Speaker 2: right well.
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Speaker 8: Alberzi Albanesi in the Oval Office discussions, as I understand it,
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Speaker 8: then argued Rudd's case and said it's a sign of
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Speaker 8: the importance we put on the relationship that I put
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Speaker 8: a former prime minister into this role. So I do
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Speaker 8: think there is Albanese wants to stick with him, at
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Speaker 8: least for a time. He's not going to allow that
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Speaker 8: meeting to say. Trump's told us who should be our
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Speaker 8: ambassador if there is an exit seven it would be
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Speaker 8: some months, yeah.
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Speaker 4: And that would well midnext year.
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Speaker 8: It's been reported the UN ambassador's job for Australia which
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Speaker 8: is in New York, which is kind of a cool
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Speaker 8: place to live, is available.
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Speaker 4: It comes up mid next year.
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Speaker 8: What's the bet Kevin Rudd goes there and then it
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Speaker 8: doesn't look as embarrassing as it might. But I mean again,
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Speaker 8: all this is speculation, but you know, I just wouldn't
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Speaker 8: be surprised if it happened. Frankly, and good work by
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Speaker 8: camra Can I just say that just that, well.
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Speaker 2: Done, Cameron Redden. But of course if Rud's in the
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Speaker 2: UN in New York, it can also start to do
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Speaker 2: the preparatory lobbying to get the job he has always coveted,
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Speaker 2: and that's to be the General Secretary of the UN.
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Speaker 2: So that's the push because Oceana has not had a
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Speaker 2: candidate for some time. I'll leave there, Andrew, thank you.
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Speaker 2: That was a great get well done. All right, Let's
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Speaker 2: go down to the state of Victoria, because there's not
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Speaker 2: a day that goes by when it doesn't become more
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Speaker 2: and more of a basket case. Sadly, that's where we
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Speaker 2: are again tonight. Joining me now, Shadow Minister for Policing Corrections,
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Speaker 2: David Southwick. I want to get to your portfolio, David,
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Speaker 2: because the whole lot of stuff there we've got to
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Speaker 2: talk about. But this story in the Herald Sun today
20:42
Speaker 2: that Indigenous patients are being fast tracked in the emergency
20:46
Speaker 2: department at Saint Vincent's, a major Melbourne hospital, over every
20:51
Speaker 2: other patient. Not triage based on health need, but triage
20:57
Speaker 2: based on their race.
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Speaker 1: Greatly with your Peter, Well, first of all, we're all
21:02
Speaker 1: Australians and we should all be treated the same. And
21:06
Speaker 1: that certainly doesn't apply into the progressive state of Victoria,
21:11
Speaker 1: where it's not according to need whether you're triarched at
21:15
Speaker 1: a hospital, but because of your race, your religion and
21:18
Speaker 1: your color in this particular instance where people are getting
21:22
Speaker 1: preferential treatment, it's absolutely absurd. Where does this end. We
21:27
Speaker 1: must be treating people according to need. We have a
21:29
Speaker 1: health crisis and everybody should be treated equally. If you
21:33
Speaker 1: have a problem that is more severe than somebody else,
21:37
Speaker 1: you should be at the front of the queue, no
21:38
Speaker 1: matter who you are, no matter where you come from.
21:42
Speaker 2: Agreed. Agreed, Let's go to broad Meadows because they've been
21:45
Speaker 2: particularly hit hard by a spate of knife crimes. However,
21:49
Speaker 2: we've learned today that four teenagers have been bailed and
21:53
Speaker 2: one man released without charge after a violent brawl the
21:56
Speaker 2: left two boys of stab wounds at the train station there.
22:00
Speaker 2: We also saw shocking footage over the weekend of what
22:02
Speaker 2: was supposed to be an NRL Harmony tournament with masked
22:07
Speaker 2: men running around with knives. The premier says, though her
22:11
Speaker 2: machete bands are working, have listen.
22:14
Speaker 7: We know that the ban on machetes and the handing
22:19
Speaker 7: in of machetes is working because just through the machete
22:22
Speaker 7: bins alone, we've had more than five thousand of these
22:25
Speaker 7: dangerous weapons handed in.
22:29
Speaker 2: She clearly lives in a foreign country. She doesn't live
22:31
Speaker 2: in Victoria.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's just clearly not true. Machetes are certainly everywhere
22:37
Speaker 1: except where they should be, and that's in these machete bins.
22:40
Speaker 1: The only ones that are handing these in Laura binding citizens, farmers, trades,
22:45
Speaker 1: people that are doing the right thing. But none of
22:47
Speaker 1: these young offenders are handing their machetes in after committing
22:51
Speaker 1: these violent crimes. We saw outside the shopping center literally
22:56
Speaker 1: a machete sword fight. It was across the road where
22:59
Speaker 1: these machete bins. It's an absolute joke. And again the
23:02
Speaker 1: government's been provided with a solution. We've said, use the
23:05
Speaker 1: Jacks Law, wanting powers to search and seize these weapons
23:09
Speaker 1: before they're being used. The government refuses to meet the
23:12
Speaker 1: Beasley family. They want to pursue this chaotic, stupid idea
23:16
Speaker 1: of these thirteen million dollar machete bins. When we'll just
23:19
Speaker 1: inder Ellen learn and again she says, Victoria's safe.
23:22
Speaker 11: The city's safe.
23:24
Speaker 1: Day after day, machete attacks, violence, and people bailed. This
23:28
Speaker 1: is the government that has their head buried in the
23:30
Speaker 1: sand and they're nowhere near reality. Victorians are screaming for
23:35
Speaker 1: laws and tougher consequences. We desperately need consequences in Victoria.
23:41
Speaker 2: What's she scared of, David? I mean, if you gave
23:42
Speaker 2: the police the powers they're asking for, that if they
23:45
Speaker 2: had a suspicion that a young person at a shopping
23:47
Speaker 2: center had a machete, they could approach that young person,
23:50
Speaker 2: they could warn them, if they could take the implement
23:53
Speaker 2: off them. Under just siner Alan, you're relying on that
23:56
Speaker 2: kid to have good faith to take that machete out
23:59
Speaker 2: of their pocket and deposit it into one of her bins.
24:02
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly her way is not working. So why
24:05
Speaker 2: not give the police the powers that you say you
24:08
Speaker 2: will have elected that the police are asking for. Now,
24:11
Speaker 2: what's her impediment?
24:13
Speaker 1: I think the only reason is it's not just cinder
24:15
Speaker 1: Ellen's idea, and she won't listen to what's working everywhere else.
24:20
Speaker 1: I when we saw that with things like transport, mighty disasters,
24:24
Speaker 1: everything that the government tries is an experiment that costs
24:27
Speaker 1: us all money. That's why we've got two hundred billion
24:30
Speaker 1: dollars worth of debt, over a million dollars an hour
24:32
Speaker 1: just to pay that. And the government just keeps throwing
24:35
Speaker 1: good money after bad on these stupid ideas. We must
24:39
Speaker 1: use what's working. If it's working in other states. Every
24:42
Speaker 1: other state has Jack's Law wanting powers, why doesn't Victoria.
24:46
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. These machete bins, they are stupid ideas. Really,
24:51
Speaker 1: no one is handing them in, and it's just another
24:54
Speaker 1: market employed by this government. I think most people have
24:56
Speaker 1: woken up though, to this stupidity.
25:00
Speaker 2: Let's go to that announcement they made today that they're
25:02
Speaker 2: going to reopen a decommissioned youth detention center because escalating
25:09
Speaker 2: crime obviously requires it. Now they shut this center down
25:15
Speaker 2: two years ago. Now they're forced to admit crime has
25:19
Speaker 2: spiked and they need to open it again, but it's
25:22
Speaker 2: going to cost the taxpayers some one hundred and forty
25:26
Speaker 2: million dollars that Detran Victoria does not have to open
25:30
Speaker 2: something that should never have been closed.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is another example of a government that is
25:36
Speaker 1: in chaos and can't manage money, just as we said
25:39
Speaker 1: before with the machete bin. So the government spent thirty
25:42
Speaker 1: two million dollars in twenty twenty to upgrade the facility.
25:46
Speaker 1: Then in twenty twenty three they closed it and they
25:49
Speaker 1: paid out thousands of dollars for staff fifteen thousand dollars
25:53
Speaker 1: per staff and additional payout and on top of everything else,
25:58
Speaker 1: and now they're going to have to pay additional sign
26:01
Speaker 1: on bonuses to recruit staff and on top of that
26:04
Speaker 1: millions of dollars to upgrade the facility because it's been
26:07
Speaker 1: it's sad idle for two years. So they don't know
26:10
Speaker 1: what they're doing. They should have never closed this facility
26:12
Speaker 1: in the first place. The big question is with bail
26:17
Speaker 1: laws that simply don't work in Victoria, is it just
26:20
Speaker 1: going to be another foul experiment of an empty facility.
26:23
Speaker 1: You've actually got to ensure that people are locked up
26:26
Speaker 1: and end up in this facility, and we haven't seen
26:28
Speaker 1: that working thus far. So it's all very well to
26:30
Speaker 1: say we're going to reopen a facility which Comet's closed
26:33
Speaker 1: and spending money. But where will this fiasco end? Who knows?
26:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to open it, they've got to actually
26:40
Speaker 2: use it. David, thank you. After the break, secret papers
26:43
Speaker 2: warned Chris Bowen that is climate pologies would increase your
26:47
Speaker 2: power bills. Well, we know that's happened now we finally
26:50
Speaker 2: got the proof if those papers released today plast the
26:54
Speaker 2: new global heavyweight, putting their weight behind nuclear power, Welco
27:02
Speaker 2: Aback coming up a remarkable grass roots fitness program changing
27:06
Speaker 2: the lives of young boys in the UK. I just
27:10
Speaker 2: love this. I'll show you that in a moment. The
27:12
Speaker 2: first join me now to dig into the secret advice
27:15
Speaker 2: that Chris Bowen received just after the election. Environment editor
27:19
Speaker 2: at The Australian Graham Lloyd. Well, it's heavily redacted. We
27:23
Speaker 2: put the document Graham up on screens that people can
27:26
Speaker 2: see all the bits and pieces that are crossed out,
27:28
Speaker 2: but it does show he was told by officials of
27:31
Speaker 2: power bills would go up because of Labour's emissions policies
27:36
Speaker 2: and that the twenty thirty targets would have to be
27:39
Speaker 2: rapidly accelerated if they're going to be met. Now, my
27:43
Speaker 2: question here is yes, in you of course he knew, Yes,
27:47
Speaker 2: he was warned any you that there was a nexus
27:50
Speaker 2: between what he was doing and the brunt of pain
27:54
Speaker 2: that power prices would hit in terms of households. But
27:58
Speaker 2: when they say you're going to have to rapidly increase
28:00
Speaker 2: things to meet the twenty thirty targets, what does that mean?
28:03
Speaker 2: And we're talking about subsidies, maybe are we talking about
28:08
Speaker 2: punitive measures on business or on households? What's happening here?
28:15
Speaker 4: Good evening, Peter.
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Speaker 12: I think this is a sixty four billion dollar question because,
28:19
Speaker 12: as you say, there's no doubt that Chris bone knew
28:23
Speaker 12: exactly what was going on. And what's going on is
28:26
Speaker 12: things are not going at all as they were intended to.
28:29
Speaker 12: Prices are going up, and the new supply and dispatch
28:35
Speaker 12: it isn't being deployed. They need to find a way
28:40
Speaker 12: to make that happen, but the evidence is they don't
28:42
Speaker 12: really control that process. So people are not investing in
28:49
Speaker 12: these things for a host of reasons including they can't
28:52
Speaker 12: control the costs, they can't compete with government subsidized operations,
28:57
Speaker 12: and they can't connect them to the elector visiting network
29:00
Speaker 12: because the big transmission lines aren't being connected. So I
29:04
Speaker 12: think what we're seeing is a gridlock, which is very
29:09
Speaker 12: bad news for how things go in the future. The
29:13
Speaker 12: government can try and force things, but it simply is
29:16
Speaker 12: not possible for it to pay for everything to happen
29:21
Speaker 12: if there are good reasons why it's not taking place
29:23
Speaker 12: in a commercial sense.
29:27
Speaker 2: Okay, so if we're not meeting twenty thirty targets, and
29:32
Speaker 2: you know there's a big hike between twenty thirty to
29:34
Speaker 2: twenty thirty five targets, and you're saying that we can't
29:38
Speaker 2: just keep basically buying our way to meeting these targets,
29:42
Speaker 2: then we are really looking at punitive pain. We are
29:45
Speaker 2: looking at the heavy hand of government saying you can't
29:48
Speaker 2: drive that petrol car anymore, you must drive this ev
29:51
Speaker 2: or you can't have that sort of business located there,
29:54
Speaker 2: or we must regardless of what the opposition is, we're
29:57
Speaker 2: going to put that wind farm there, or that's ol
30:00
Speaker 2: a factory over there. I mean, is that seriously where
30:03
Speaker 2: we're headed.
30:05
Speaker 12: Well, well, I think the most serious thing is we
30:07
Speaker 12: can't afford to run out of electricity, So they need
30:10
Speaker 12: to find a way to solve that problem. And if
30:13
Speaker 12: they don't want to return to gas or coal, they
30:17
Speaker 12: want to go down this track, they're going to have
30:20
Speaker 12: to find a way to build the transmission lines and
30:23
Speaker 12: force wind generation and other things into the marketplace. We're
30:28
Speaker 12: already seeing the groundwork being laid for that with the
30:31
Speaker 12: EPBC reforms, where they will create special classes of projects
30:36
Speaker 12: that won't have to comply, and that is directly aimed
30:39
Speaker 12: at the renewable energy industry. So that's bad news for
30:44
Speaker 12: landholders who are going to be forced to give way
30:48
Speaker 12: to have these things put in place.
30:53
Speaker 2: Talk to me about Tomico, because at the start of
30:55
Speaker 2: the year the government was throwing big subsidies at Tommogo
30:58
Speaker 2: to keep the lights on, to keep the business going. Basically,
31:02
Speaker 2: they're now brought forward discussions with their staff saying, look,
31:05
Speaker 2: even with the subsidies, we just don't think we're commercially viable.
31:08
Speaker 2: You know, we are going to have a conversation about
31:11
Speaker 2: exiting the market. Now. You and I both know what
31:14
Speaker 2: these smelters are to our heavy industry in this country,
31:18
Speaker 2: and once you lose a tome Ago, I think the
31:21
Speaker 2: writing's on the wall for all the others in the
31:24
Speaker 2: same bracket that try.
31:27
Speaker 12: Peter, I think the writing has been on the wall
31:30
Speaker 12: for heavy industry from the beginning. There's always been the
31:34
Speaker 12: conversation that big emissions, trade exposed industries are going to
31:38
Speaker 12: really struggle in a decarbonized world. And I think previously
31:46
Speaker 12: the thought was, well, you have to protect these industries
31:49
Speaker 12: and not subject them to the same riggers. But power
31:54
Speaker 12: prices has done the job. We're seeing. Rio has said
31:57
Speaker 12: that there's no pathway forward for them to have affordable
32:01
Speaker 12: power to stay in business. And they're not governments. They're
32:04
Speaker 12: commercial operations that work on a global scale, and they
32:09
Speaker 12: will relocate production to places where it's possible to do so.
32:14
Speaker 12: Shareholders in Tomago have already written down their interests to zero,
32:19
Speaker 12: so effectively.
32:20
Speaker 4: They've made the decision.
32:22
Speaker 12: The government says it will do everything to keep them here,
32:25
Speaker 12: but it's simply not possible to subsidize every industry to
32:31
Speaker 12: stay in business in a loss making environment. The issue
32:34
Speaker 12: that needs to be cost power.
32:38
Speaker 2: Let me just jump in there, because you are making
32:40
Speaker 2: the point and quite rightly, that they'll just go somewhere else,
32:44
Speaker 2: so the overall impact on global emissions will not change.
32:47
Speaker 2: In fact, if they go somewherehere the coal is dirty,
32:50
Speaker 2: let's say in Australia or where they haven't got gas
32:52
Speaker 2: in the mix, the emissions could well increase. But tom Ago,
32:58
Speaker 2: the work that Tomigo does will happen somewhere else. That
33:01
Speaker 2: industrial product will be manufactured somewhere else, just won't be here.
33:06
Speaker 2: So we won't get the tax revenues, we won't get
33:08
Speaker 2: the jobs, we won't get the expert export earnings, but
33:12
Speaker 2: the emissions will still be the same. And isn't this
33:14
Speaker 2: the problem when the government says, you know, we believe
33:17
Speaker 2: in manufacturing in Australia, future made in Australia manufacturing, this
33:21
Speaker 2: whole policy is a sham.
33:25
Speaker 12: It certainly is. And we're saying that the industrial processes
33:30
Speaker 12: will move increasingly to China. That is what has been
33:33
Speaker 12: happening where they control the power prices and availability, And
33:38
Speaker 12: now we're seeing a big push in the United States
33:41
Speaker 12: to reshore manufacturing and heavy industry there. And they benefit
33:46
Speaker 12: from very low energy prices from gas as well, and
33:51
Speaker 12: they're a big consumer market of their own So Australia.
33:56
Speaker 12: Really the only advantage we've had in the past has
33:59
Speaker 12: been cheap energy, which we no longer enjoy. Outside of that,
34:04
Speaker 12: it's difficult to see the reason to do things here.
34:07
Speaker 12: And this has been a slow burn and it's really
34:12
Speaker 12: coming to a head, not just in aluminium but in
34:14
Speaker 12: still making and right across the board, and it's difficult
34:18
Speaker 12: to see that there's anything that can be done to
34:23
Speaker 12: head off the inevitable, and it will be for zero
34:27
Speaker 12: results in terms of saving emissions.
34:31
Speaker 2: Spot on. And as I always say, energy security is
34:34
Speaker 2: national security and this is not the time in history
34:38
Speaker 2: to stop making steel in our country. I'll live it there, Graham,
34:41
Speaker 2: Just quickly, my viewers, you are my best researchers. I
34:45
Speaker 2: took last night, but I felt the reduction the speed
34:48
Speaker 2: limits on country roads was a lot about emissions reduction,
34:53
Speaker 2: not so much about safety on roads. Well, I'm very canny.
34:56
Speaker 2: Viewer sent me this analysis. It's report. It came out
34:59
Speaker 2: from a government to parts an in Canberra. This came
35:01
Speaker 2: out in September and it discusses there that lowering emissions
35:05
Speaker 2: are a wonderful benefit. Page forty nine of the report
35:09
Speaker 2: of cutting these speed limits there you go. The devil's
35:12
Speaker 2: in the detail. But that's really what it's about, all right,
35:16
Speaker 2: after break screen addictions, social media harm, obcity bullying, all
35:20
Speaker 2: of this stuff's an epidemic across the West. Look at
35:24
Speaker 2: what they're doing in the UK to turn this around.
35:26
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a fantastic story. Welcome about coming up.
35:33
Speaker 2: A good friend of the show, Maradeeming just been promoted
35:36
Speaker 2: today to the opposition front bench. For this meeting, the
35:39
Speaker 2: Victoria Leaves are finally getting serious about wanting to win
35:42
Speaker 2: the next year's election. But first a bit of change
35:46
Speaker 2: of pace here and a real story of hope out
35:48
Speaker 2: of the United Kingdom. Box Wave turned up in my
35:51
Speaker 2: social media feed a few months ago, and like so
35:54
Speaker 2: many others, I've scrolled through but ended up spellbound as
35:58
Speaker 2: I watched their story about Jacob and how they help
36:00
Speaker 2: motivating him to turn around his health and end years
36:03
Speaker 2: and years of school yard bullying. I think we're missing
36:17
Speaker 2: that grab. I hope we can show that. Lets me
36:20
Speaker 2: bring in the guests Joe and Harry Freeman, the founders
36:24
Speaker 2: of box Wave gens. I'm sorry to just jump into
36:26
Speaker 2: this because I don't have that clip to show of
36:28
Speaker 2: Jacob's story. But as I said, you turned up in
36:31
Speaker 2: my social media feed and here was a kid that
36:34
Speaker 2: was really well intily overweight for his age and had
36:38
Speaker 2: a really sorry story that he told the camera about
36:41
Speaker 2: being bullied at school. You have turned him around. It's
36:46
Speaker 2: not just that he looks great, it's just the confidence.
36:50
Speaker 2: Why do you think this has struck such a call
36:52
Speaker 2: with people right around the world.
36:57
Speaker 11: First off, thank you for having us on. I think
36:59
Speaker 11: we're Jacob.
37:00
Speaker 13: It's because it's such a dramatic change in not only
37:04
Speaker 13: his appearance, but yeah, like you said, his confidence.
37:08
Speaker 11: People have really took notes to it and can see
37:11
Speaker 11: what's possible.
37:12
Speaker 14: And everyone got to watch it in real time as well,
37:15
Speaker 14: Like they got to follow it day by day, what
37:17
Speaker 14: he was up to, what we were training, what we're
37:19
Speaker 14: doing with him, taking him on his food shops, and
37:23
Speaker 14: just things like that.
37:27
Speaker 2: And what made you start a business like this, Like
37:30
Speaker 2: what was your motivation, particularly focusing on young boys about
37:34
Speaker 2: Jacob's age.
37:36
Speaker 13: Well, we could see that, you know, he was struggling.
37:41
Speaker 11: First of all, we noticed that there's a lot of
37:43
Speaker 11: kids out there.
37:44
Speaker 13: I mean one in five kids are struggling now with
37:48
Speaker 13: mental health and one in three are expected to be
37:51
Speaker 13: obese by twenty fifty. So we knew that kids are
37:55
Speaker 13: struggling and that's down to sort of modern day living
38:00
Speaker 13: means processed food. You know how accessible it is, and
38:04
Speaker 13: it's almost run down your throat, and we thought we
38:08
Speaker 13: want to do something about it.
38:11
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Just before you jump in there, Jo, I'm
38:14
Speaker 2: going to play that little package because I want people
38:16
Speaker 2: to see what you've done with Jacob. Let's have a look.
38:19
Speaker 11: You see that trailer in the background. You're going to
38:22
Speaker 11: be pulling that soon. Yeah, he needs strong legs for this, right.
38:25
Speaker 15: Let's go then, Jacob, Let's get moving this tire. Come on, Jacob.
38:29
Speaker 15: We've always believed in you.
38:30
Speaker 7: You've always had that power.
38:31
Speaker 15: Come on, you're strong now, Jacob, You're powerful, You've got this.
38:35
Speaker 4: Let's go.
38:36
Speaker 15: Let's get it to the top. Come on, I'm loving it.
38:38
Speaker 15: Look at this strength. That is the strength, right there?
38:41
Speaker 15: Come on, keep going, drive, drive, drive, That's it. I'm finished.
38:45
Speaker 15: There we go time put it there. Good work, Jacob,
38:49
Speaker 15: do you reckon?
38:50
Speaker 2: It was really difficult. I feel unsoftable now.
38:54
Speaker 15: So I never used to believe in myself, but now
38:57
Speaker 15: now I believe in myself.
38:59
Speaker 2: To the move.
39:00
Speaker 15: No matter what situation you're in, Guys, anyone can do this.
39:03
Speaker 15: You can get yourself out of any situation. All you've
39:05
Speaker 15: got to do is believe in yourself.
39:07
Speaker 11: You believe in yourself now.
39:08
Speaker 9: Yeah, I keep.
39:09
Speaker 2: Reading over comments every day and over support.
39:15
Speaker 5: It means for.
39:16
Speaker 2: Lock to me. So I don't mind admitting that during
39:22
Speaker 2: COVID Melbourne, I live in Melbourne, we were the most
39:24
Speaker 2: lockdown city in the world, and my exercise you know,
39:27
Speaker 2: went to hell and a handcut and you know, I
39:29
Speaker 2: put on weight and it affected my mental health. I
39:32
Speaker 2: couldn't do the exercise. We had all these COVID rules.
39:36
Speaker 2: And as I said, I think what I'm seeing there
39:38
Speaker 2: most importantly with Jacob as a little man getting his
39:43
Speaker 2: mojo back, getting his confidence, And I don't think the
39:46
Speaker 2: bullying is going to be a factor of his life
39:47
Speaker 2: in the way it was.
39:50
Speaker 11: No, definitely not.
39:51
Speaker 14: Now he's like the popular kid at school, like everyone
39:56
Speaker 14: just like has watched it on social media and just
39:58
Speaker 14: can't believe the change is what what's happened.
40:01
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's not just Jacob.
40:03
Speaker 13: So we're seeing these same results with kids up and
40:06
Speaker 13: down the country now, not only boys, but girls as
40:09
Speaker 13: well that have come on board of us, and they're
40:12
Speaker 13: all seeing the same change as Jacob, Saw.
40:17
Speaker 2: And Harry. I know you've been approached from parents right
40:21
Speaker 2: around the world, including in Australia. Are you surprised by
40:26
Speaker 2: the support?
40:28
Speaker 13: Well, it's just crazy that, you know, so many messages
40:31
Speaker 13: from Australia parents, but even trainers.
40:35
Speaker 11: You know, how can we bring box Wave over here?
40:38
Speaker 13: How can we sort of help you do what you're
40:41
Speaker 13: doing over in England in Australia.
40:43
Speaker 11: You know, it is it's nice to see.
40:48
Speaker 2: And I guess too. You know, it's the story about
40:49
Speaker 2: boys not having enough really positive male role models in
40:53
Speaker 2: their life and and I think the screen addiction with
40:56
Speaker 2: kids in particular is pretty horrific.
40:59
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, it is worrying. The combination of the food
41:06
Speaker 13: on the screen. It's just people say younger generation have
41:10
Speaker 13: it easy nowadays, but what we're seeing is actually have
41:13
Speaker 13: it real hard. You know, the amount of distractions, the
41:18
Speaker 13: sugary foods that are so addictive, and just you know,
41:22
Speaker 13: if a youngster's making decisions for themselves, are always going
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Speaker 13: to choose the nice, tasy option.
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Speaker 11: Yeah. So, yeah, that's why we've started our.
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Speaker 13: Campaign of building the strongest generation, which is helping these
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Speaker 13: kids build discipline at a young age that they can
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Speaker 13: carry through the rest of their lives.
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Speaker 2: Well, Joan Harry, I gotta leave it there. I absolutely
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Speaker 2: love what you do. I run a political show here
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Speaker 2: in Australia and this isn't really a political story. But
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Speaker 2: I think it's about developing the next generation. I think
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Speaker 2: that's everyone's job, and I think this is a huge
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Speaker 2: challenge for Western countries like ours. I really appreciate you
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Speaker 2: joining us tonight. Thank you so much. Isn't that You're
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Speaker 2: what we need? A little bit of hope every once
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Speaker 2: in a while, don't we. As I said, I was
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Speaker 2: absolutely inspired by all of that. All right after the break,
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Speaker 2: more than half the Palestinian prisoner's freedom that peace deal
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Speaker 2: have reportedly become Vista millionaires because of the Palestinian authorities
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Speaker 2: pay to slay, funding of terror and the Chooser nine
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Speaker 2: panel to upwards. All right, welcome back. Let's just jump
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Speaker 2: straight into things with my panel, former Liberal mpgn and
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Speaker 2: Cole Flint and the CEO of the Page Research Center,
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Speaker 2: Jared Holland. Welcome to you both. Well, we can be pleased, Nicole.
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Speaker 2: There's a definition of women that's adult female in Queensland.
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Speaker 2: But when asked about it, and this is only just
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Speaker 2: new the definition, the Premier David Chris A. Fooley sort
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Speaker 2: of sidestep the question about whether this definition adult female
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Speaker 2: human being includes or doesn't include gender women.
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Speaker 10: Well, what the Queensland LMP government should do is take
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Speaker 10: action to overturn every single piece of Queensland Labor legislation
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Speaker 10: that either removed or erased the definition of women or
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Speaker 10: watered down women's rights at law, and reinstate the definition
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Speaker 10: of women as an adult human female. I'm far less
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Speaker 10: concerned about the LMP government though, than I am about
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Speaker 10: the federal Labor government, who are continuing to support the
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Speaker 10: position of doctor Anna Cody, the Sex Discrimination Commissioner, in
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Speaker 10: her role when she couldn't define what a biological male is.
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Speaker 10: We found this out thanks to Senator Claire Chandler in
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Speaker 10: Senate Estimates recently. And let's all remember where this madness started.
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Speaker 10: It started under the Guillard Labor government in twenty thirteen
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Speaker 10: when they erased the meaning of woman from the Sex
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Speaker 10: Discrimination Act and Prime Minister Anthony Aberesi was part of
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Speaker 10: the cabinet that did that.
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Speaker 3: So if we're.
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Speaker 10: Looking at who is truly responsible for this insanity that
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Speaker 10: we have seen and the rights of women being trampled
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Speaker 10: over every single day. Peter, it is Prime Minister Anthony
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Speaker 10: Abernesi and his labor colleagues who are truly to blame.
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Speaker 2: Good point. Good point. And I'll just make a quick
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Speaker 2: comment too. In the Supreme Court in Queensland today they
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Speaker 2: overturned the Christophilay government's ban on gender medicine for young people.
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Speaker 2: They overturned the ban because they said there was a
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Speaker 2: lack of consultation in the move by the Christophily government
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Speaker 2: to ban and in relation to children. However, the advice
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Speaker 2: is Tim Nichols, he's the head minister up there in Queensland.
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Speaker 2: He's considering a written ministerial direction to put the ban
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Speaker 2: back in place. He's satisfied. He says that it is
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Speaker 2: in the public interest. I'll come back to that tomorrow
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Speaker 2: with more information. Good news out of Victoria. I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you what. Brad Batton has promoted Myra Deeming to the
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Speaker 2: front bench. Now, this looks to be a unifying as
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Speaker 2: a move for the Liberal Party, but it also looks
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Speaker 2: to me, like Jared, they're pretty serious about actually getting
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Speaker 2: in and having a fight ahead of the next election,
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Speaker 2: start election in November next year.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think what people are craving at the moment,
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Speaker 3: Peter is just leaders with character and conviction, and that
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Speaker 3: is more.
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Speaker 11: She didn't back down.
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Speaker 4: She was adamant that she.
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Speaker 3: Knew what a biological woman was and she wasn't going
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Speaker 3: to be intimidated or smeared with any other labels to
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Speaker 3: try and sort of diminish her contribution. And it's great
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Speaker 3: to see her back on the front bench. I've had
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Speaker 3: the privilege of meeting Mayra a few times and I
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Speaker 3: think she has an enormous amount still to contribute to
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Speaker 3: the great state of Victoria and to contribute to this country.
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Speaker 4: And I only wish her the best.
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Speaker 3: And if there's anyone who is up to the task
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Speaker 3: of giving it to labor in the next state election,
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Speaker 3: more as you go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look at their role is to do with advocating
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Speaker 2: for western Melbourne. And you saw the top of the
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Speaker 2: show my story there about knife crime. They are an
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Speaker 2: area of Melbourne absolutely under siege. So I'll speak to
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Speaker 2: her about that too, Nicole. The Palestinian authority pays terrorists.
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Speaker 2: They call it paid a sleigh. You blow up a
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Speaker 2: bus load of Israelis, or you know, you walk into
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Speaker 2: a pizza shop as it was a famous case, and
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Speaker 2: you kill moms and dads and kids in there having
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Speaker 2: a meal on a Thursday night, and you end up.
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Speaker 2: And if you take yourself out, of course your pension
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Speaker 2: goes to your family, your terrorist pension. But if you
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Speaker 2: haven't to survive, you get to have that money. And
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Speaker 2: this is the case with about half of those prisoners
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Speaker 2: let out of Israeli jails and back in Gaza, and
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Speaker 2: they're basically millionaires overnight because of this money.
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Speaker 10: Just when we all think we can't be any more
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Speaker 10: shocked about what has gone on and is still going
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Speaker 10: on in Israel, and and with people who have been
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Speaker 10: convicted as terrorists, who have inflicted atrocities on the Jewish people,
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Speaker 10: on Israeli people, information like this comes out, Peter.
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Speaker 2: What we need to see.
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Speaker 10: And it has happened previously, is proper sanctions imposed if
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Speaker 10: this is the case, and it does appear that this
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Speaker 10: is still the case, and that these convicted terrorists, convicted killers,
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Speaker 10: will be receiving this money the Western world un we
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Speaker 10: know that won't happen, but countries need to take action
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Speaker 10: because this cannot be condoned under any circumstances.
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Speaker 2: And that's what all these astrains are marching for every
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Speaker 2: weekend for terrorists to get their pay. Let's go to
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Speaker 2: the warning today from economists that the union's push DURA
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Speaker 2: to grant full adult wages to young people. This is
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Speaker 2: across the sectors of retail, fast fast food and pharmacy,
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Speaker 2: could cost some twenty five thousand young Australians their first job,
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Speaker 2: because you know, the business if they're going to have
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Speaker 2: to pay full adult wages, aren't going to hire someone
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Speaker 2: without experience. They're not going to hire the younger person.
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Speaker 2: They'll go and hire someone if we've got to pay
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Speaker 2: the big wage who's got the years of experience. And
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Speaker 2: I think this is going to be bad for young
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Speaker 2: people wanting their first job out of school.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. I mean, there's three potential outcomes that
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Speaker 3: could come from this. The first one is that the
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Speaker 3: costs of these wage increases are passed on to consumers,
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Speaker 3: and in the middle of a cost of living crisis,
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Speaker 3: when retail and food has already gotten so expensive, it
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Speaker 3: means that the broader community bears the cost of this.
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Speaker 3: The second one is that the businesses can't absorb it,
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Speaker 3: and we've had a record number of business insolvencies this year,
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Speaker 3: building on a record number the previous year. We've never
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Speaker 3: been under more stress as an economy, particularly those small
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Speaker 3: medium sized businesses, So this is just another pressure or
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Speaker 3: the third outcome, as you alluded to, is that well,
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Speaker 3: young people just stop getting these jobs because it's no
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Speaker 3: longer economically viable to pay them.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: I've worked plenty of hospitality in my time. I did
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Speaker 3: a fair few graveyard shifts at the League's club, sort
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Speaker 3: of paid my way through UNI, and I'm sympathetic to
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Speaker 3: people wanting to get paid more for their labor. But
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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, these are meant to
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Speaker 3: be entry level jobs. They're meant to be opportunities for
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Speaker 3: young people to get skills, to get experience, to gain.
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Speaker 11: Confidence in the workforce.
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Speaker 3: They're not necessarily meant to be jobs that you support
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Speaker 3: a family and pay a mortgage on. And it's actually
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Speaker 3: important to the health of our society that we do
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Speaker 3: have these kind of jobs that do provide these kind
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Speaker 3: of training pathways for young people. But then when you
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Speaker 3: do need a little bit more cash, hopefully you've built
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Speaker 3: that skill base to move on to something that pays
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Speaker 3: a little bit better. This is just a disastrous policy
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Speaker 3: that's just being slapped on, and I do hope that
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Speaker 3: we can push back on it and calmer heads prevail,
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Speaker 3: particularly from the business community.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I know, it's the union shooting themselves in the
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Speaker 2: food here though, because this is where a lot of
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Speaker 2: people get their entry into work. Got to leave it there. Nick,
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Speaker 2: thank you very much. Jared Holland, thank you too, both
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Speaker 2: of you. See you next week. That's it for me
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Back here at six is Andrew