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The Fifth Hour: Old Guys in the NFL Rule! · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 1: Kutbooms.
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Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
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Speaker 2: with Ben Maller starts right now.
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Speaker 1: In the air everywhere. The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben
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Speaker 1: Maller and Danny g Radio Happy Saturday. It's the last
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Speaker 1: Saturday before the conference championship games, which are tomorrow tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: the twenty fifth day of January, and we got you
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Speaker 1: covered now. Very rarely on this podcast, we'd like to
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Speaker 1: say rare and appropriate. Do we do sporty pod? We
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Speaker 1: normally don't do sporty pod. But one of the cool
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Speaker 1: things about this podcast is we both work on the
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Speaker 1: radio during the week and every once in a while
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Speaker 1: somebody tries to sneak Danny, somebody tries to sneak something
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Speaker 1: through the back door on the weekend, thinking that no
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Speaker 1: one's gonna pay attention, like I don't know the Dallas
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Speaker 1: Cowboys for example. Yeah, so I thought we would start
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Speaker 1: with that, and the news came down last night. I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't even know what time they announced it.
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Speaker 1: I started getting text messages. It was kind of late
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Speaker 1: in you know, here in California. So, I mean, the
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are in Dallas, They're a couple hours ahead of
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Speaker 1: where we are, so I'm not sure exactly when it
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Speaker 1: was announced. But the Dallas Cowboys, they've made a shoddy higher.
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Speaker 1: It's what they've made. Brian Schottenheimer has agreed to a deal.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna be the new Cowboy coach.
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Speaker 3: This is.
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Speaker 1: I know Jerry likes to be in control and all that,
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Speaker 1: and there were some stories this week that his kid,
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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, is very cheap. He's a tightwad, a very
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Speaker 1: frugal person. Because that think about your Stephen Jones. You've
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Speaker 1: got no real talent, You've got no real skill. You're
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Speaker 1: just writing daddy's coattails. Right when Jerry kicks the bucket,
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Speaker 1: Steven's just going to use the Dallas Cowboys as an
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Speaker 1: ATM machine. You know, he needs petty cash, he'll just
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Speaker 1: use the Cowboys. So I understand from his perspective not
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Speaker 1: wanting to spend money, but man, what a buzzkill?
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Speaker 3: Right? What?
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Speaker 1: And Brian Schottenheimer, you gotta be joking. What in the world,
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Speaker 1: I mean, my god.
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Speaker 3: We're not a fan of these in house hirings.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's just it's so you're the Dallas pleeping cowboy.
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Speaker 1: Isn't this something like the Chicago Bears would do or Jacksonville?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very much so. And I remember hearing the promo
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Speaker 3: play of you on the Overnight Show talking about how
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Speaker 3: Dion would have been the perfect partner for Dallas.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it would have been great. It would have been wonderful.
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Speaker 1: Obviously for us, we're selfish sports content. It would have
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Speaker 1: been amazing. This is just it's it's it's rice cakes,
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Speaker 1: is what it is. It's pasta without sauce. It's Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's so bad. It's tofu. The Cowboys could have had
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Speaker 1: a nice prime rib and they said we want the
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Speaker 1: tofu And I read somewhere I don't I don't remember
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Speaker 1: where I read this, but I was snooping around last night.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 1: Friday night was one of those nights, Danny where I
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Speaker 1: was like, I kind of wish I like having a
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Speaker 1: little break, but I kind of wish we had the
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Speaker 1: radio show to rant about the Cowboys. I was Jones
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Speaker 1: and and then I was like, oh I can come
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Speaker 1: in here, you know, tomorrow morning and be able to rant.
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Speaker 1: So here we are.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, and you were off the air when
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Speaker 3: the Pete Carroll news broke right.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Well we'll get to that. That's on
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Speaker 1: my big board. I know it is not a list,
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Speaker 1: not a list, but I read this. This blew my mind.
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Speaker 1: So Brian Schottenheimer first interviewed for a head coaching job
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Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins. With the Miami Dolphins, that was
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Speaker 1: after Nick Saban left following the twenty zh six season.
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Speaker 1: So if my math is Cort, that's almost twenty years
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Speaker 1: where Brian Schottenheimer was fussing around the NFL, going from
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Speaker 1: job to job to job to job, and now he finally,
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Speaker 1: after after all this time, is now an NFL head coach.
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Speaker 1: And he didn't even call the plays in It's very bizarre.
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Speaker 1: He was the offensive coordinator, he wasn't the play caller.
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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy very hands on in Dallas. I cannot wait
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Speaker 1: till Monday. The Cowboys have scheduled a news conference for
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Speaker 1: Monday more eleven o'clock local time, noon in the East,
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Speaker 1: and that's nine am here in LA. But they're going
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Speaker 1: to formally introduce Brian Schottenheimer as the latest head coach
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Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. And if you want to see
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Speaker 1: bull shoy on display, wait until you hear Jerry Jones
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Speaker 1: get up there and sell. Sell. He will sell the
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Speaker 1: soap for Brian Schottenheimer. He'll put on his straw hat
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Speaker 1: and he will be Carnival Barker Jerry Jones. I can't
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Speaker 1: wait to see that. But man, what a what a
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Speaker 1: buzz kill, What a kick to your balls if you're
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Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan, because you're like, well, Jerry's gonna at
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Speaker 1: least go out and get a decent coach. This is.
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Speaker 3: It is this week of not just them wanting to
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Speaker 3: save money, but Jerry needing the control. And so that's
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Speaker 3: why he went with an in house guy.
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Speaker 1: Well there are well yeah, I mean that's I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair and a quality point. But
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Speaker 1: there are levels to this, dandy, right, I mean, you
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Speaker 1: are going this is Dave Campbell, like is what this is?
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Speaker 1: If you remember years ago when they hired Dave Campo
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Speaker 1: and that was the only other Cowboy head coach to
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Speaker 1: be hired without experience as ahead. Now, listen, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I'm all for people getting opportunities and all that.
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Speaker 3: I just don't.
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Speaker 1: I never thought of the Cowboys as a starter job.
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Speaker 1: I never thought Jacksonville starter job, Chicago Bears starter job.
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Speaker 1: I'd never thought that Dallas Cowboys were a starter job.
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Speaker 1: So the Mallord report card on the Dallas Cowboys coaching,
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Speaker 1: they get an F. Cowboys malor report card in F
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Speaker 1: because you and I very rarely give f's, I very
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Speaker 1: really give fs. But this is an F. Like what
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Speaker 1: are you doing now? The Cowboys are behind the eight
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Speaker 1: ball anyway, because Dak Prescott, as long as he's there,
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Speaker 1: they're cooked. But the storyline that popped up this week
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Speaker 1: from from Dallas is that there's a I guess, a
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Speaker 1: weird power stoke. I don't know how Jerry Jones would
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Speaker 1: give any power up. He's he's going to ride this
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Speaker 1: thing until he goes to the convalescent home. And like Steven,
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Speaker 1: don't want to spend any money, and you know, Jerry wanted
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Speaker 1: to sign everybody, and so they made a compromise where
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Speaker 1: Jerry paid Dak Prescott, but nobody else really got paid.
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Speaker 1: So now you've got a quarterback that has a fatal flaw.
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Speaker 1: He's got a glitch in big games, and you've got
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Speaker 1: that going for you. And then on the other side,
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Speaker 1: you've got this roster who's a hodgepodge. They are not
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Speaker 1: not much there. So, my god, that is a four
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Speaker 1: year deal. He won't be there four years, No chance,
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Speaker 1: no chance. Man, he's been in the NFL. God, he's
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Speaker 1: been there. How many years? It's been probably twenty years.
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Speaker 1: He's fifty one now, maybe not yeah, probably over twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty now the story. I was getting some messages from
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Speaker 1: Cowboy fans last night and they were like, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's not a great code, but he'll just be overseeing everything.
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Speaker 1: And Matt Eberflus. They're selling Matt Eberflus. This is how
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Speaker 1: bad the Cowboys are. They're selling well, they're gonna have
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Speaker 1: a great defense because Matt Eberflus is the defense of
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Speaker 1: forty eight. Okay, well damn do okay by your Cowboys
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Speaker 1: season tickets right now. Wow, everyone is pointing and laughing
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Speaker 1: at the Dallas Cowboys. And this is just validates all
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Speaker 1: the noise about Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. It substantiates
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Speaker 1: all the talk that they have no idea what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: But in Jerry's eyes, Danny, I'll bet you Jerry Jones
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Speaker 1: is like, man, this is great. You know, as long
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Speaker 1: as you talk about it, make sure you get you
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Speaker 1: pronounce my name the right way, everything is good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, last night, around seven pm our time is when
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Speaker 3: this story broke and I pulled the comments back up
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Speaker 3: that I was can have from last night. First Cowboys
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Speaker 3: fan says JJ doing what JJ does best, that's taking
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Speaker 3: the money while making sure his team wins nothing. The
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Speaker 3: next Cowboy fan, Dave Campo, just rolled over in his grave.
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Speaker 3: Another puppet coach. Jerry Jones is one of the most
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Speaker 3: disappointing owners in modern sports, a complete failure as a GM,
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Speaker 3: and the only thing he's ever been all in on
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Speaker 3: is his ego. What is Shane It's tragic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's pretty wild. It's pretty wild, and you
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Speaker 1: know it'll it'll it's so bad. In many ways, it's
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Speaker 1: good and people have talked about Jerry Jones. I had
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Speaker 1: up one of my my buddies. We've talked about this
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Speaker 1: on previous episodes of The Overnight Show, that he's he's
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Speaker 1: a he's a he's a modern day When you think
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Speaker 1: of the greatest promoter, the greatest showman in American history
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Speaker 1: all time, just complete showmanship, arrogance, all of that. Going back,
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Speaker 1: you've got to go to P. T. Barnum. To me,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I know he went around
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Speaker 1: when I was alive, and you know I wasn't alive
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Speaker 1: when he was around. But from what I've read about P. T. Barnum,
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Speaker 1: he's the king. But Jerry Jones I'm trying to wrap
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Speaker 1: my head around. And as far as the the owner
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Speaker 1: of the count, he's like Jim Henson. You remember Jim Henson,
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Speaker 1: the guy that created the Muppets. It's like a puppet show.
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Speaker 1: It's it's an absolute puppet show with with with Jerry Jones.
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Speaker 1: But he'll get out there on Monday and he'll grand
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Speaker 1: stand around and he'll swanp and strut and he'll have
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Speaker 1: like I said, I'll have the straw hat. He'll have
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Speaker 1: the red and white striped shirt on or jacket, and
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Speaker 1: he'll be working his magic is what he's gonna do.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, ap Jim Henson, Jerry Jones outlived him.
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Speaker 3: Well there, you know, Yeah, Jim Henson died years ago pneumonia.
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Speaker 1: Oh well, that's what he said.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if that was Yeah, he died too young.
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Speaker 3: That was.
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Speaker 1: That was the time they covered some stuff up on that.
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Speaker 1: Now Dave, Dave Campbell still alive? You think, what do
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Speaker 1: you think? Dave Campo still alive, by the way.
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Speaker 3: Still he is. Why did that person say was rolling
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Speaker 3: in his grave.
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Speaker 1: For comedic reasons? Did Campbo seven years old?
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Speaker 3: Whoa?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? And his last job was a consultant for a
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Speaker 1: USC and one of those no show jobs. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: Dave Campbell is still still around, one of the great
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Speaker 1: Dallas cowboys. But what an ear that was. They went
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Speaker 1: from chan Gaily to Dave Campbo and now they've got
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Speaker 1: Ryan Schottenheimer and somewhere Mike McCarthy's laughing while eating a
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Speaker 1: bowl of pasta fetichini Alfredo. He's laughing. Yeah, And I
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Speaker 1: don't want to I don't.
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Speaker 3: You gave an f ESPN and gave this a C.
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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, A C is when you don't you
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Speaker 1: don't really know what you're getting. Brian. I remember when
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Speaker 1: Brian Schottneimer was the offensive coordinator for the Jets and
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Speaker 1: we used to lampoon him this is back when they
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Speaker 1: had like Mark Sanchez, and they had really good defenses
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Speaker 1: with Rex Ryan, and the offense was incompetent. And I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to go back. I went through my notes and
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Speaker 1: I couldn't. My notes don't go back that far. I
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Speaker 1: didn't save that stuff because I'm not a total loser.
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Speaker 1: But I remember there was several controversies when he was
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Speaker 1: with the Jets, and even in Seattle, I recall there
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Speaker 1: were some some issues there. So hey, listen, it's an
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Speaker 1: f because you were flirting with Dion Sanders all of
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Speaker 1: that RAS mctaz and everything, and then you go and
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Speaker 1: bring in this guy. I mean, just a cup of
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Speaker 1: room temperature lukewarm water. That's it's lukewarm.
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Speaker 3: That is Yeah. But Ben Schottenheimer dazzled Steven Jones and
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Speaker 3: Vice president of player Personnel Will McLay after he met
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Speaker 3: with them, and he has a strong relationship with quarterback
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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and has connected well with people inside the organization.
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Speaker 3: This according to ESPN.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's a perfect nickname shoddy because this is
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Speaker 1: a shoddy higher by the Dallas Cowboys. But hey, now
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Speaker 1: maybe people will go back and play this podcast ten
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Speaker 1: years from now when the Cowboys have won seven Super
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Speaker 1: Bowls and all that, and can you believe how wrong
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Speaker 1: that was these two idiots on the podcast. Well, that's fine.
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Speaker 1: We do the show right now, right, Danny, We do
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Speaker 1: the show today. It's the twenty fifth of January, Saturday,
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Speaker 1: and as of this morning, as of early in the
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Speaker 1: morning here, way too early to be up, by the way,
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Speaker 1: I am thumbs down. Now do you what are you
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Speaker 1: given on the Danny G report card?
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Speaker 3: I guess I would give it a C minus. Oh
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Speaker 3: I a.
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Speaker 1: Man boo that man?
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Speaker 3: Well he because here's the caveat. I don't know what
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Speaker 3: he's going to do as far as his staff goes.
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Speaker 3: That's going to play a big role in this, because honestly,
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Speaker 3: look at the head coaches around the league, they really
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Speaker 3: are as good as their quarterback and their OC and
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Speaker 3: their DC. I want to see who he puts on
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Speaker 3: his staff.
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Speaker 1: Well, I've already made my mind up, and he's the
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Speaker 1: Netpo coach. Remember we used to goof on Lebron's kid
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Speaker 1: for being the net Bo baby. Well, this is the
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Speaker 1: Nepo baby of coaching. And I know there's a ton
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Speaker 1: of them, right I understand. I mean your dad, and
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Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer. God, I mean, I'm so old. I interviewed
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Speaker 1: Schottenheimer several times, but many many teams he coached coming
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Speaker 1: in to play the Chargers in San Diego. He actually
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Speaker 1: coached the Chargers in San Diego too. But you know,
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Speaker 1: the NFL is a multi billion dollar business where the
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Speaker 1: easiest way to get in is your dad coach in
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Your grandfather, Sean McVay, Shanahan, most of these guys.
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Speaker 3: Howard Stearn's dad was in radio.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, as I point out, Danny, my connection my dad
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Speaker 1: was in Ham radio. Fortunately not commercial radio. But if
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Speaker 1: you had been in commercial radio, I might you know,
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Speaker 1: I'd be doing like a morning show somewhere or something
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Speaker 1: like that.
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Speaker 3: But hey, listen, my dad made license plates.
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Speaker 1: Your dad was was very good at making small rocks
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Speaker 1: or big rock small rocks. Right to do that. And
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Speaker 1: now we get don't bear the lead, my man, don't
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Speaker 1: bear the lead. We get to the Hila monster in
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Speaker 1: the room. A greatness of the radis Danny. I know
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Speaker 1: that you've had some time now to says Pete Carroll,
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Speaker 1: You're gonna become the oldest head coach in NFL history.
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Speaker 1: Next season. He's gonna turn seventy four years young. Your
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Speaker 1: opening thought, Danny, on you as a lifelong Raider fan,
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Speaker 1: someone that if you we cut you open, black and
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Speaker 1: silver or silver and black will fall out of you,
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Speaker 1: which is probably not good. You might want to see
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Speaker 1: a doctor. But this is your squad, Danny, this is
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Speaker 1: your coach. Pete Carroll. Doesn't he seem like the antithesis
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Speaker 1: of the tough, hard ass raider, the old school raider.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: I like his sort of leadership. I know a lot
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Speaker 3: of it is raw, raw, but he also has been
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Speaker 3: a winning coach. He's also had a bad defense there
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Speaker 3: at the end of his run in Seattle. So I'm
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Speaker 3: interested to see if they can extend and give a
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Speaker 3: bigger deal to Patrick Graham and keep him in place
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Speaker 3: as their defensive coordinator. Very very interested to see who
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Speaker 3: he brings in as his OC. As far as the
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Speaker 3: Raiders needing like a glue guy, a guy that brings
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Speaker 3: the organization, the squad together. This could be a sneaky
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Speaker 3: good hire. At first, I was like, because of the age,
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Speaker 3: you know, Ben, I'll take it from Rob g who
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Speaker 3: was arguing with Rob Parker on the air Friday afternoon
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Speaker 3: Friday evening, and I was laughing because your buddy Rob
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Speaker 3: Parker was saying the Raiders were just going for a
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Speaker 3: big name. This guy's oldest dirt is he gonna coach
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Speaker 3: from a wheelchair?
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Speaker 1: Wow?
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Speaker 3: All this agism all over the Odd Couple show. Rob
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Speaker 3: g got on his mic and said, mister Parker, if
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Speaker 3: we couldn't give people jobs because of their age, you
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Speaker 3: would have been off this network and off TV back
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Speaker 3: in two thousand and six.
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Speaker 1: Whoa shots by it?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said he would have been aged out of
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Speaker 3: the media business a while ago. Yeah, so I don't know. Hey,
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Speaker 3: I'll kick it to you. What do you think about
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Speaker 3: the age? You think it's gonna take a year or
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Speaker 3: two to get this thing built up? And then at
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Speaker 3: that point he's a little too old or his age
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Speaker 3: really just a number because the guy's so damn healthy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I'm not one of those guys every time
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Speaker 1: you hire a coach you're like, well, we're gonna end
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Speaker 1: up this guy's gonna be the next the coach for
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Speaker 1: the next ten years. I'm not that guy, right, And
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Speaker 1: the Raiders all they do is change coaches, right, It's
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Speaker 1: non stop with the coaching change. So my philosophy. I've
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Speaker 1: evolved my philosophy over the years when it comes to
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Speaker 1: hiring coaches. Right, it's like Huey Lewis and the News,
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Speaker 1: We're not here for a long time, We're here for
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Speaker 1: a good time. And and I actually think that Pete Carroll,
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Speaker 1: it's not an outrageous take. He knows what he's doing.
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Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, he's five years younger than
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Speaker 1: the President of the United States, the Honorable Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: who's in the White House, and so he's not even
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Speaker 1: as old as the President, So that you got me's close.
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Speaker 1: But and I was texting some people when I found
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Speaker 1: out about that. I actually found out that this was
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Speaker 1: likely going to happen. And the sense I got was
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Speaker 1: that the main reason Pete Carroll was hired the Raiders
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Speaker 1: and you know this, Danny, the late game situations were atrocious.
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Speaker 1: And as much as I you know, I loved Antonio
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Speaker 1: Pierce for many reasons, and I wanted to see that workout.
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Speaker 3: He was his consultants, Marvin Lewis and what's his face,
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Speaker 3: formerly of the Giants, Yeah, yeah, what's his name. I
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Speaker 3: emptied him out of my brain because those guys suck.
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Speaker 3: If you're the consultants and you're walking around the sidelines
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Speaker 3: or you're up in one of the boots, why aren't
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Speaker 3: you hell being Antonio Pierce with clock management. There's all
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Speaker 3: these damn cooks in the kitchen and none of them
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Speaker 3: could make toast.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they made toast and it was burd toast
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Speaker 1: is what they made. And you know the thing about
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Speaker 1: it with the uh, the Raiders, Pete Carroll, that is
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Speaker 1: one of his claims the fame that he's got a
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Speaker 1: great record and they don't they don't screw things up
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Speaker 1: in terms of when to call time out game management situations.
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Speaker 1: He will spoon feed who he asked to spoon feed
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Speaker 1: and that is his biggest priority as a coach. So
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Speaker 1: from that standpoint, okay, so on the malor report card,
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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna give this a B a B minus
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Speaker 1: on the mal report card because.
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Speaker 3: No, stick to your b. That sounded better. Uh well, no,
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Speaker 3: be mine, which is, by the way, it was Tom Coughlin.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom Coughlin, Thank you, Tom, emphasis on cough Yeah no,
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Speaker 1: but I listen, Carol will do very well. Plus as
21:05
Speaker 1: an added bonus back at Packed ten media day at
21:09
Speaker 1: the believe it was the Marriott Hotel near Lax. He
21:13
Speaker 1: blew me off at a hotel near Lax. Pete Carroll
21:18
Speaker 1: used the malor iPhone to call in to at that time.
21:24
Speaker 1: I think it was like AM eleven fifty, which was
21:27
Speaker 1: the sports station in la and he was coaching at USC.
21:32
Speaker 1: So there was a bond that we had, me and
21:34
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. And this is also validation, Danny, that it's
21:41
Speaker 1: validation that Pete Carroll was even though they said he
21:44
Speaker 1: just left on his own. He was fired by the
21:46
Speaker 1: seattlec They claimed he was retirement and all that because
21:49
Speaker 1: he's winning his coach in franchise history. But they got
21:54
Speaker 1: rid of him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they thought after they pushed after they pushed him out,
21:58
Speaker 3: he wanted to try to get back in.
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Speaker 1: Remember, Oh yeah, no, no, for sure, I mean he
22:02
Speaker 1: wanted he want to back and hey, good for him.
22:05
Speaker 1: And the other thing about this, how many stories did
22:09
Speaker 1: we we hear over the last couple of months. Well,
22:13
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot different now Tom Brady's there
22:16
Speaker 1: and he's going to go in there and they're gonna
22:18
Speaker 1: change everything. And so Tom tom Brady was a he's
22:22
Speaker 1: a big owner of the Raiders. Here's some constructive criticism.
22:26
Speaker 1: He hired one of his old college teammates to be
22:29
Speaker 1: the GM and UH and and then I assume he
22:33
Speaker 1: recommended Pete Carroll, someone he coached against, who, to me,
22:39
Speaker 1: is the kind of guy that if Tom Brady hadn't
22:41
Speaker 1: even been involved, that's the kind of guy that I
22:44
Speaker 1: think Mark Davis might have hired, Right, I don't. I
22:47
Speaker 1: don't think it's outrageous to think that if Brady had
22:51
Speaker 1: just been golfing somewhere in Florida, that Mark Davis might
22:56
Speaker 1: have just said, all right, we'll hire this guy. Because
23:00
Speaker 1: we've both been around Pete Carroll and he is a
23:04
Speaker 1: he is a sweetheart of a guy. Right, he can
23:06
Speaker 1: talk your ear off, he's he's just got that different gab.
23:10
Speaker 1: He's got that Fengali effect as and so.
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Speaker 3: But what with Mark Davis, you never know, he could
23:18
Speaker 3: have very well promoted Patrick Graham, who's been interviewing elsewhere
23:22
Speaker 3: for head coaching gigs. He could have pulled a move
23:25
Speaker 3: like that. He could have pulled a Jerry Jones type move.
23:29
Speaker 1: Well, they they hired Pierce who was the interim guy.
23:32
Speaker 1: And but I think they did that because remember they
23:36
Speaker 1: didn't hire rich Pasakia Pasaca. Yeah.
23:41
Speaker 3: Remember people, So you think Mark Davis would have overcorrected
23:45
Speaker 3: by getting the most experienced guy out there like Pete Carroll.
23:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and plug again Pete, I cannot. I have
23:54
Speaker 1: nothing baddest about Pete's a bit of a bullshit artist,
23:57
Speaker 1: but other than that, he's charismatic and he's just he's
24:01
Speaker 1: a likable, approachable guy. And he has started to me
24:07
Speaker 1: look a little older. But he's in his seventies, for
24:09
Speaker 1: God's sakes, but he's still crazy. He's still got more energy.
24:11
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys, maybe we all be when we're
24:14
Speaker 1: getting older, Danny, you know, when we get to that point,
24:17
Speaker 1: may we be like Donald Trump and Pete Carroll? Yeah,
24:20
Speaker 1: and not Joe Biden when it comes to moving around,
24:23
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about.
24:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's a very competitive guy. When he was
24:28
Speaker 3: pacing the sidelines for the Seahawks, I always felt like
24:31
Speaker 3: they could get back into games. Like you said, he
24:34
Speaker 3: was great at managing the end of games, and that
24:37
Speaker 3: is something that Raider Nation is gonna love here. I
24:41
Speaker 3: do hope that they get a modern offense in place
24:44
Speaker 3: with a really good OC. We'll see what happens with
24:47
Speaker 3: that other thing. I would add, Ben, for all the
24:50
Speaker 3: critics who say, and this is another thing that Kelvin
24:54
Speaker 3: and your boy Parker were going off about, they don't
24:58
Speaker 3: have a cornerback. The Morning Show with Jonas Knox, they
25:02
Speaker 3: were doing the same thing. They don't even have a quarterback.
25:06
Speaker 3: So do you think that that's gonna be the case
25:08
Speaker 3: when next season starts.
25:10
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're not gonna play ten on eleven
25:13
Speaker 1: that they will. Someone will be playing quarterback for the
25:15
Speaker 1: r right.
25:16
Speaker 3: And it's not gonna be the backup eight and O'Connell.
25:19
Speaker 3: The Raiders. Right now, as things sit, ninety three million
25:23
Speaker 3: dollars of cap space, and that is the second most
25:29
Speaker 3: in the NFL right now, and that number is gonna
25:31
Speaker 3: get bigger once other roster moves are made this offseason.
25:35
Speaker 1: Now, Danny, you know how I feel about the salary
25:37
Speaker 1: cap eyes me nuts, drives me insane.
25:40
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is, you can go get yourself
25:43
Speaker 3: a quarterback, either at number six in the draft, or
25:46
Speaker 3: you could buy yourself a quarterback, or you could do
25:48
Speaker 3: both and get a bridge guy and let a youngster
25:51
Speaker 3: sit for a season behind your bridge QB. So something
25:55
Speaker 3: is going to be done. I understand what you're saying
25:58
Speaker 3: about Brady's influence with the coach, but we're really gonna
26:01
Speaker 3: see if Brady has real influence here with the quarterback situation.
26:06
Speaker 1: Well, and that's that's a sophie's choice. All right, you
26:10
Speaker 1: make the call, Danny G. I'm gonna put you on
26:14
Speaker 1: the hot seat. Are you ready, Danny G? All right,
26:17
Speaker 1: toss up question. You are the general manager le Raiders.
26:21
Speaker 1: You have two options good quarterback. You can either sign
26:26
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who's Pete Carroll's puppet, a free agent available,
26:31
Speaker 1: Russ you know, bring Russ in mister unlimited, or Sam Donald.
26:36
Speaker 1: Those are your options.
26:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not touching Russell Wilson.
26:40
Speaker 1: So you'd go Sam Donald.
26:41
Speaker 3: Really, I would go Sam darn my god, don't I
26:44
Speaker 3: would go Sam Donald. Well, here's the here's the contingency plan.
26:49
Speaker 3: I'd go Sam Donald with some of that money, which
26:51
Speaker 3: you don't care. It's not our money. We always talk
26:53
Speaker 3: about that. End it first round at number six. If
26:58
Speaker 3: you're not going to get Shador Sanders, go ahead and
27:01
Speaker 3: get Ashton Genty so that you have one of the
27:04
Speaker 3: best running backs all of the sudden because they lost
27:06
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs and that hurt them tremendously this past season.
27:11
Speaker 3: Get yourself a cash cow at running back, and then
27:14
Speaker 3: in the second round you draft old miss star Jackson
27:18
Speaker 3: Dart who needs probably a season to sit behind a
27:21
Speaker 3: veteran once he joins an NFL team. That's the way
27:25
Speaker 3: I would roll.
27:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Pete seventy gonna be seventy four, I don't think.
27:30
Speaker 3: But hey, you could win, just like the Vikings proved
27:33
Speaker 3: you could win with Sam Darnold right now.
27:35
Speaker 1: Well, you can't in that Yeah, I mean in that division.
27:40
Speaker 1: People said it was a good division. They didn't win
27:41
Speaker 1: a game in the playoffs, did they. I don't think
27:43
Speaker 1: anyone in that division won a game. Green Bay lost
27:46
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, Vikings lost the Rams, and the Lions lost
27:50
Speaker 1: to the to the Command. But yeah, you know, one
27:53
Speaker 1: a bunch of games here in the regular season.
27:54
Speaker 3: So well, I think they're going to add another wide receiver,
27:58
Speaker 3: give Jacobe Meyers some more money, a new contract. You
28:02
Speaker 3: got Brock Bauers, you got weapons, beef up that Max
28:06
Speaker 3: Crosby led defense. You get a healthy Christian Wilkins back
28:10
Speaker 3: in the middle. They got some parts to work with
28:13
Speaker 3: the problem is going to be depth. That's been the
28:16
Speaker 3: problem for their team for years now. Once the starters
28:19
Speaker 3: go down injured, they're sunk because their backups would be
28:23
Speaker 3: third or fourth stringers on other good teams.
28:27
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we have done a solid sporty podcast, and
28:33
Speaker 1: I mean, this is amazing. We're doing sporty pod on
28:37
Speaker 1: the weekend here. But we I'm glad we have another
28:40
Speaker 1: story that got completely buried since we're doing all sporty
28:43
Speaker 1: all the time. Is Bobby Slowick, who was the Flavor
28:49
Speaker 1: of the Month last year. He's the Texans offensive coordinatord Day. Yeah,
28:53
Speaker 1: well not anymore. He was excommunicated from the Houston Texans
28:59
Speaker 1: as Friday was Take Out the Trash Day in the NFL.
29:03
Speaker 1: You had you announced things that you know are not
29:06
Speaker 1: going to be that popular on Friday because most people
29:09
Speaker 1: don't pay that much attention on Friday night, Saturday and Sunday,
29:15
Speaker 1: and then they, you know, because they're doing other things.
29:17
Speaker 1: But Bobby Slowick was boy wondered. This is the I
29:21
Speaker 1: says year. Every every season there's a hot shot coordinator
29:25
Speaker 1: or two, and most of them flame out. Most of
29:29
Speaker 1: them flame out, and Bobby Slowick has been let go
29:32
Speaker 1: by the Texans and he was interviewing for head coaching
29:37
Speaker 1: jobs and now he's looking for a job, so maybe
29:40
Speaker 1: he'll be the Raiders offensive coordinator. Dan he come to
29:43
Speaker 1: join Pete Carroll with.
29:44
Speaker 3: A raid, I wouldn't be mad at that. Well, I
29:47
Speaker 3: mean a lot of stuff happened to the Texans, as
29:50
Speaker 3: you know this past season. They lost Stefan Diggs, there
29:53
Speaker 3: were a lot of injuries to that offense. They still
29:56
Speaker 3: were decent. There must have been some internal problems, but
30:00
Speaker 3: I think he's a good oc.
30:03
Speaker 1: Nah Diamond dozen diamond, doesn't I don't know.
30:06
Speaker 3: That better than Shot Nimer.
30:09
Speaker 1: Why don't we Why don't we put the ball on this?
30:12
Speaker 1: How about that day?
30:13
Speaker 3: I mean that was uh, that was great man. You
30:16
Speaker 3: missed these stories on your overnight because of when they broke. Yeah,
30:21
Speaker 3: well you were able to handle it on the award
30:23
Speaker 3: winning Fifth Hour podcast.
30:25
Speaker 1: That's right, and you Danny Bingley, the Raider insider on
30:30
Speaker 1: the Pulse of the Silver and Black, gave us that perspective.
30:33
Speaker 1: So anyway, we will have a longated Sunday. We have
30:36
Speaker 1: the mail bag. I know we have some stories we
30:38
Speaker 1: wanted to share with the class. So we'll get to
30:40
Speaker 1: all that, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Asta pasta, my Felicia