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Breaking: NASCAR Scores Legal Win vs Michael Jordan & 23XI Racing | Charlie Marlow Show · Kenny Wallace Media

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  What is up, everybody? Charlie Marlowe reporting live
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  from my back patio, giving you a nice backdrop there of the tree
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  and some bushes. You see the headline.
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  We're going to break it down. We're going to talk about it
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  breaking. This is about two hours ago, but
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  breaking news, NASCAR scores legal win versus Michael Jordan
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  and 2311 racing also Front Row Motorsports.
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  But of course, 2311 Racing the big team with Denny Hamlin with
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  Michael Jordan as Co owners. And we have some huge news here
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  in the NASCAR lawsuit. So look, I was I was editing the
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  Kenny conversation with Robin Pemberton, which is great.
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  That's right now on Dirty MO media podcast.
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  It'll be on the Kenny Wallace YouTube channel later.
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  But I saw on X, I'll go right to X here, all the NASCAR reporters
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  weighing in about two hours ago. So Bob Pockras.
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  He tweets. U.S. court of Appeals has ruled
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  in favor of NASCAR and vacated the injunction requiring NASCAR
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  to treat 2311 and Front Row as chartered teams.
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  So here's what's going on here. Bob Hochrist continues to tweet.
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  The teams get 14 days to petition for a rehearing or
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  hearing in front of all the appeals judges. 7 days after
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  that deadline passes is the earliest this judgement would
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  take effect. So what could happen here is
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  that 2311 Racing and Front Row Motorsports could race.
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  They could be forced to race as non chartered teams for the rest
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  of the year. Here we have a statement also
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  from the attorney for 2311 in Front Row Motorsports.
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  This is Jeffrey Kessler. He says, quote, we are
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  disappointed by today's ruling by the 4th Circuit Court of
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  Appeals and are reviewing the decision to determine our next
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  steps. This ruling is based on a very
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  narrow consideration of whether a release of claims in the
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  charter agreements is anti competitive and does not impact
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  our chances of winning at trial scheduled for December 1st.
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  We remain confident in our case and committed to racing for the
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  entirety of this season as we continue our fight to create a
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  fair and just economic system for stock car racing that is
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  free of anti competitive monopolistic conduct.
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  End Quote. That is the statement from 2311
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  Front row Motorsports attorney Jeffrey Kessler.
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  So got 189 of you guys here live on the Kenny Wallace YouTube
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  channel. Thank you so much.
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  We'll talk about it, get your comments in, get your questions
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  in and CJ Gildner says looks like we found Dodges charters
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  for the inevitable return to cup now.
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  And you probably saw the news too.
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  The report from Adam Stern of the Sports Business Journal that
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  maybe Dodge Ram coming into the Truck Series 2026 potentially
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  that was the report with our guy Cletus McFarland.
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  So we'll see about that. Thank you for joining us 210 of
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  you watching live on the Kenny Wallace YouTube channel.
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  What do you guys think about this news?
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  All the NASCAR reporters weighing in.
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  So look, I'm not just going to sit here and and plagiarize Bob
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  Pockras on X, but this is a lot of legalese.
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  So it's something that look, the reporters, Bob Pockras, Jeff
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  Glock that have been that have been covering this the whole
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  time these guys are locked in. So I would go to their their ex
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  feeds and all that. So what Bob Parker's also
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  tweeted was that federal procedure allows 14 days for a
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  request that all judges on the appeals panel hear the case.
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  The mandate enforcing the judgement is issued 7 days after
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  that deadline or if there is a pending request to rehear the
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  case, then seven days after any denial of that decision.
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  So basically what he's trying to say there, I know this is a lot
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  of legalese, but potentially in three weeks 2311 racing OK, in
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  front row Motorsports, all these cars could be open cars, meaning
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  they would have to qualify their way in to each and every race
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  would not be guaranteed a spot like the chartered teams are OK.
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  So and Bob Hockers goes on to tweet NASCAR hasn't said what it
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  would do with their six charters.
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  There could just be 30 chartered teams, OK.
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  And those cars also would get less money.
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  So that's that's the big part of this too, is that if they're not
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  running as chartered teams here in 2025, they wouldn't get that
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  charter money cut. Now.
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  They'd have to qualify their way in if there was more cars in the
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  field trying to qualify. But look, folks, this is clearly
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  a a pretty big legal win for NASCAR in this lawsuit that
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  started what, last fall? I feel like right towards the
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  end of the season, this was a big story.
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  Haven't heard a ton about it this year.
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  Seems like we always get these these new updates whenever it is
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  Wednesday, Thursday at the end of some of these weeks.
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  But look, make no mistake here, this is clearly a big legal win
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  for NASCAR with potentially this preliminary injunction being
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  overturned. So let's go to the chat and see
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  what y'all are saying. Thank you so much for weighing
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  in 243 of you watching live right now.
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  If you're just joining us again, got the headline breaking NASCAR
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  scores legal win versus Michael Jordan and 2311 racing and also
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  front row Motorsports. So Jeffrey King says crazy.
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  Would they not be allowed to win the championship?
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  So they can still win the championship, right?
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  They would not get the same payments, they would not get the
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  same type of monetary benefits as the chartered teams get
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  though with the new TV contract and all that with with the money
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  coming in, they would not get those benefits running as open
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  teams, Rex Dowell says. I think it's a crock if you know
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  what, that NASCAR won the case and now they're pulling what
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  they said for the season. Hamilton and 2311 could run as a
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  charter team. Just so everybody knows though,
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  NASCAR has not won the case though this is this is kind of
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  the legal battles before the legal battles, right?
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  This trial, if you have a trial could take place in December.
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  But this is just the latest in this if we call it a war.
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  This is the latest battle that NASCAR has has obviously won in
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  this in this long legal war. Casey Rigsby Foray says, wow, a
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  blow, I am sure. Yes to the teams, absolutely.
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  Here we go. Benjamin Lewis says let's go.
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  I think 2311 has a leg to stand on.
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  I'm surprised this was overturned.
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  Take it all the way to the Supreme Court.
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  How about that? Nicholas says, well, that's
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  unfortunate. Caleb Burnett already changing
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  the subject. Different subject, but glad to
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  see Kyle Larson is now leading merch sales over Chase Elliott.
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  LOL. There you go.
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  Hey, you can weigh in on any topic you'd like.
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  Let's see. Would love to hear Kagan and
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  Thomas agree on something. We're talking politics now with
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  the Supreme Court. Do you think I, I don't think, I
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  don't think this NASCAR lawsuit will get to the Supreme Court,
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  although you never know. Let's see, Justin Moore asks.
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  My worry is that there won't be any teams open for new drivers
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  like Reddick, Wallace and Gregson, right?
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  And that's what those teams argued before, right?
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  They said, look, if we don't have a charter, you have these
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  drivers who are under contract or want to be under contract and
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  that would be detrimental to to them and their careers in terms
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  of a Tyler Reddick, Bubba Wallace, Riley Herbst, and then
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  also like you said, Noah Gregson, front row Motorsports
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  drivers as well. Let's see.
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  Hey, I'm Eric. Dodge posted a video of their
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  truck, but in the background there's a Ram 2026 Truck Series
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  truck. How about that?
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  Going back to the the potential news with Cletus MacFarlane
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  running NASCAR trucks in 2026 with with Dodge that hasn't been
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  confirmed yet. That was reported by Adam Stern
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  earlier in the week. That was what, Monday?
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  Let's see, it's me says time to start a competing series.
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  How about that? Let's be honest here.
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  NASCAR has bigger, better lawyers than 2311 racing.
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  Look, I, I would think that they both have very strong legal
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  teams. NASCAR has been around the block
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  before though. You got friends in high places.
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  You got maybe some judges. Hey, look, judges are also more
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  favorable to one side or the other too.
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  So you've had legal wins where in this ongoing war, like we're
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  like, we're talking about 2311 in front row, right?
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  They got the preliminary injunction.
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  You felt like, OK, this battle was going their way.
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  Now, clearly it's going the way of NASCAR with this latest
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  wrinkle and they've won the the overturning of the preliminary
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  injunction. Ronald Kerouac saying great for
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  NASCAR. Let's see.
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  I'm not surprised from Chris BL33P.
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  I'm very involved in NASCAR from Eric.
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  OK, Adam Thurman says recap. I missed the update.
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  OK, let's let's do a little recap.
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  So the title breaking news, NASCAR scores legal win versus
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  Michael Jordan and 2311 Racing, of course, also owned by Denny
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  Hamlin. Front Row Motorsports also in on
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  this lawsuit. And so what's happened is NASCAR
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  has won this latest legal battle versus the teams.
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  The preliminary injunction has been overturned.
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  OK, let me find exactly. It was the US Court of Appeals,
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  they've ruled in favor of NASCAR and vacated the injunction
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  requiring NASCAR to treat 2311 racing and front row as
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  chartered teams for the 2025 seasons.
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  So again, we're talking in three weeks or so if this holds up.
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  So look, the teams get 14 days, according to Bob Parkers, for
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  the case to be heard by the entire appeals court.
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  They get at least two weeks, OK? The ruling today wouldn't go
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  into effect until seven days after that deadline passes at
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  the earliest. So what we're talking is, if
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  this holds up potentially 3 weeks from now, what's today,
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  Today's June, what is it, June 5th?
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  So potentially at the end of June, if this were to happen,
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  these these teams would be racing, could be running as non
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  chartered teams, meaning they have to qualify their way into
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  the field. And then potentially, if you
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  have more cars trying to get into a race, then teams looking
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  to qualify, some of these big drivers, big teams, right,
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  whether it be Tyler Reddick, Bubba Wallace, Riley Herbst,
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  whoever it is, Noah Gregson, those those drivers could not be
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  in the show if if things didn't go their way in qualifying,
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  right? I mean, that wouldn't happen
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  very often. There's not so many races where
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  you have so many more drivers trying to enter the show.
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  But you get what I'm saying. So this is a a big legal win,
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  though for NASCAR in this ongoing battle.
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  So here's here's basically what the judge said.
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  It says, in short, because we have found no support for the
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  proposition that a business entity or person violates the
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  antitrust laws by requiring A prospective participant to give
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  a release for past conduct as a condition for doing business, we
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  cannot conclude that the plaintiffs made a clear showing
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  that they were likely to succeed On the merits of that theory,
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  and without satisfaction of the likelihood of success elements,
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  the plaintiffs were not entitled to a preliminary injunction.
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  C Winter, 555 US at 20. If you're going to check the
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  legal, the legal proceedings there, the precedents right.
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  So there you go and look, I'm no lawyer.
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  The the folks that have been covering this non-stop, Bob
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  Parkers and Jeff Clock and all those guys.
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  Let's see let's see what Jeff clock has to say about this.
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  And one more time by the way, for folks just joining us 'cause
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  I know people are just jumping on 278 of you and Adam Thurman
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  says recap. I missed the update.
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  So there you go. So I'll do another little little
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  recap. I, I read it earlier, but here's
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  the statement from 2311 and front row Motorsports attorney
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  Jeffrey Kessler. He says, quote, we are
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  disappointed by today's ruling by the 4th Circuit Court of
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  Appeals and are reviewing the decision to determine our next
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  steps. This ruling is based on a very
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  narrow consideration of whether a release of claims in the
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  charter agreements is anti competitive and does not impact
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  our chances of winning at trial. So the trial is scheduled for
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  December 1st. We remain confident in our case
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  and committed to racing for the entirety of this season as we
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  continue our fight to create a fair and just economic system
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  for stock car racing that is free of anti competitive
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  monopolistic conduct. So there you go.
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  And Bob Pockras goes on to say. Basically, let's see.
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  Somebody asked him, Bob, if a 2311 Front Row Motorsports
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  driver wrecks in practice and qualifying, theoretically not
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  qualifying for the race and go on to make or win into the
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  playoffs with the driver, need a waiver for the playoffs?
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  Bob Hocker says no. The playoff eligibility rule
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  states if a starting position was not earned, then the drivers
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  and team owners must have attempted to qualify.
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  So there you go. And again, Bob Parker's is all
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  over this. Jeff Glock.
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  Let's see what Jeff Glock. Let's see if he has any other
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  information on his Twitter feed of what's going on here.
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  Basically same stuff, yeah. Jeff Glock tweets major NASCAR
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  lawsuit news. This is 3 hours ago.
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  The preliminary injunction that allowed 2311 Racing and Front
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  Row Motorsports to race as chartered teams has been
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  overturned by a federal appeals court.
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  Appeals court. The teams could now lose their
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  charters, both existing and the ones they got from Stewart Haas
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  Racing. Remember those?
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  Those charters were sold. That was an issue as well with
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  the Stewart Haas Racing charters being sold over the winter and
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  they could race as open teams 2311 in front row Motorsports.
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  So there you go that's from from Jeff Gluck.
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  Bob Parkers has been all over this.
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  We'll go back to the chat here 327 of you guys watching and I
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  appreciate that we're just kind of we're kind of going through
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  the news here. I'm no lawyer, but let's go down
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  here and see what you guys are saying here.
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  NASCAR is legalized mafia. Look, I've said all along I
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  thought NASCAR was going to have to budget a little bit.
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  Maybe I'm wrong, though. I could easily be wrong.
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  Look, NASCAR may maybe the legal precedent is on their side.
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  I just feel like, I just feel like it seems like everything is
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  getting better for NASCAR in the tracks.
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  And to me, NASCAR is the only sport.
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  You tell me, folks, what other sport are the athletes getting
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  paid less than they used to get paid, right?
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  NASCAR is the only sport that's happening.
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  Look at quarterbacks are making $60 million a year.
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  Baseball players, Shohei Otani, what are they making now?
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  5040? Whatever, it's deferred money.
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  I think Shohei Otani's making $70 million per year with
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  deferred money, of course. But still, NASCAR drivers are
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  now making less than they made at the peak, early 2000s, mid
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  2000s. So, so that's where that doesn't
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  seem fair to me. That doesn't seem write to me if
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  you're if you're literally and you tell me if I'm wrong.
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  Name any other sport where the athletes are now making less
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  money than they made 20 years ago, 15 years ago, whatever it
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  is to me, NASCAR is the only sport where that's happening.
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  Let's see turbo 14. Hi, Charlie.
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  More cleats and less MJS. Oh, you know, I mean, I, I love
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  Michael Jordan and I and I like the fact that even though I'm
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  more of a LeBron guy, not going to lie, I'm from Ohio.
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  We can get into that debate later, but all I'm saying is I I
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  think look, I'm I'm fine with the teams trying to get more out
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  of NASCAR. This happens in every sport,
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  every sport going back to Curt Flood and the the Cardinals
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  outfielder going after MLB for free agency.
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  You have strikes and lockouts in every sport.
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  It happens in every single sport.
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  So this is it's new to NASCAR, but it's not it's not really
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  new. Eventually you're going to have
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  a team, a well funded team, somebody like Michael Jordan, a
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  billionaire who has seemingly end endless money to go after
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  NASCAR and see if they can get a better deal.
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  And look, maybe they don't. I mean, clearly this is a big
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  win for NASCAR with this injunction being overturned.
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  Charlie, the teams pay the athletes, correct.
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  But what I'm saying is the teams are clearly getting less money.
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  And if you don't believe me, I mean, just just listen to the
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  owners, right? And and we all know sponsorship
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  is not what he used to be. 2530 years ago, every Fortune 500
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  company wanted into NASCAR. You were getting you're getting
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  knocks on your doors. Kenny Wallace always talks about
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  the fact that what was it? Was it Square D or whoever
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  knocked on his door wanting to sponsor him.
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  That doesn't happen anymore. Look at look at Denny Hamlin,
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  co-owner of 2311 Racing in on this lawsuit.
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  Obviously he has FedEx for what, 20 years loses that monstrous
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  sponsorship. Now he gets progressive for
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  about half the races, but still the sponsorship dollars are just
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  not even close to what they used to be.
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  So I, I get what you're saying that the teams pay the drivers,
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  but the point is the teams are making less money so they have
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  less money to pay the drivers. That's that's my point.
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  And that's the only sport where this is happening right now.
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  No other sport. I mean, heck, basketball players
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  are getting $50 million a year, quarterback $60 million a year.
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  Baseball players, 20, five, $30 million a year.
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  Hockey's also, I have to say hockey is a sport where they
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  were making a little more, don't you think?
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  What, 1015 years ago, I guess there's still some guys making
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  twelve, $13 million a year. Hockey's in a similar, a similar
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  boat as NASCAR, but also hockey needs to grow in the same way
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  that these other sports have grown to allow their athletes to
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  make more money. And I guess you could make that
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  case for NASCAR as well. NASCAR is trying though.
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  They're trying to go international.
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  You are a a regional sport, a national sport, but it helps to
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  get into Mexico City and it helps to potentially go
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  international to bring in more TV dollars and all that.
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  Let's see. McGrath 2O2 says a win for
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  NASCAR. It's not NASCAR's fault that
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  2311 in front row thought they're better than any other
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  team that actually signed the agreement in the beginning.
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  Big Jordan fan when he played in the NBA, right?
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  But I, I think all the other teams also were happy that this
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  lawsuit went through. I mean, you heard you heard
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  everybody, all the big, all the big owners, right?
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  I mean, Rick Hendrick, what was his quote?
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  He got tired of arguing about it, right?
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  Richard Childress basically said he was kind of forced to sign
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  it. He was like, I have all these
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  employees. I felt the need I had to sign
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  it. I have all these employees who
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  who work here and I got to worry about them.
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  So I get it. But I think deep down all of the
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  teams are actually happy that 2311 in Front Row Motorsports
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  have filed this lawsuit, even if they don't end up winning in the
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  end. I think all the teams were slash
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  are on the side of 2311 in Front Row Motorsports.
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  What do you guys think? You disagree.
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  Let's see. Dodge has some news coming out
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  on Sunday. Is that the, the Cletus news?
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  Is that what you're saying would be interesting?
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  That was reported earlier from Adam Stern Sports Business
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  Journal. We'll see if it's true, right?
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  I, I haven't seen Adam Stern being wrong really ever.
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  I mean, I'm not saying he's never been wrong, but with a big
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  story like this, I, I haven't seen him.
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  Plus, he said there was a document that that he and some
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  other people actually have viewed.
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  So we shall see. Let's see.
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  Got my daughter one second. I'm almost done.
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  I'm outside here. My daughter's ready to go to
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  lunch. I get it.
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  I'll wrap up. I promise.
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  OK. Let's see.
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  Eric says like and subscribe to the channel.
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  Yes, please. We love that Jordan did not
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  spearhead this lawsuit. I wonder why he's the face of
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  this lawsuit now. What do you mean by that?
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  I mean, Michael Jordan, I think did spear spearhead this
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  lawsuit. He Denny Hamlin, you have
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  thermal Motorsports, which is what Bob Jenkins.
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  No, I I think Michael Jordan in 2311 absolutely did spearhead
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  this lawsuit. Let's see.
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  Richard Hall says NASCAR's model is broken.
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  They have become WWE with four tires.
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  Let's see, Chip. Ferguson says if this holds up,
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  Reddick will find a ride next year.
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  Don't care about the other two. Yeah, but don't you think Tyler
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  Reddick wants to drive for 2311 racing?
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  You have the big three, you have Penske, you have Hendrick, you
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  have Gibbs. I think it's fair to say it's
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  fair to say 2311 racing is is the 4th track house knocking on
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  the door. Ross Chastain won at Charlotte
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  for the Coke 600. I feel like Track house has
• 22:05
  taken a little a little step back the last year or two.
• 22:09
  That's really just because Ross Chastain did so well.
• 22:12
  What was that was that three years ago with the the Hail
• 22:15
  Melon finishing second? But look, Tyler Reddick was in
• 22:18
  the final four last year. Bubba Wallace is having a nice
• 22:22
  season this year as well. A lot of stage points.
• 22:27
  So I don't think, look, I understand this is this is bad
• 22:30
  for 2311 racing in front of Motorsports right now.
• 22:34
  But if you're Bubba Wallace or or Tyler Reddick, do you really
• 22:38
  want to leave Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin and all those
• 22:41
  sponsors, right? I mean, McDonald's, Jordan
• 22:46
  brand, what do you got? You got beast.
• 22:49
  How about Chumba Casino? I love that because on the
• 22:53
  Herman Trader show, Kenny Wallace does so many ads, so
• 22:55
  many reads for Chumba Casino. It was cool to see the Chumba
• 22:58
  Casino car last week. That was the Bubba Wallace car.
• 23:02
  To see that at Nashville Chumba Casino, it's like an online
• 23:06
  gaming type deal. You get the coins and all that.
• 23:09
  I have not played it, but we do a ton of ads for Chumba Casino,
• 23:12
  so it was fun to see that car for Bubba Wallace at Nashville.
• 23:16
  Let's see. Richard Hall says if 2311 loses,
• 23:21
  is it? Let's see, hold on, Chip
• 23:24
  Ferguson, Tyler will get another ride.
• 23:27
  The other two can go kick rocks. I don't think any of them are
• 23:29
  leaving the team, though. Richard Hall.
• 23:31
  Yeah, he says. If 2311 loses, is it a death
• 23:35
  nail or death nail to the team as a whole?
• 23:37
  No, I don't think it is at all. I don't think it is at all.
• 23:39
  I I think big picture, NASCAR wants Michael Jordan in the
• 23:43
  sport. They don't like that they're
• 23:45
  being sued by him. But I think this will get taken
• 23:49
  care of, whether it's through trial, who knows, You know, will
• 23:53
  they be able to sign the charter agreement or a new charter
• 23:56
  agreement in 2026? We'll, we'll see what happens.
• 23:59
  We're now 6789 months, whatever it is, into this and we're still
• 24:03
  going. And NASCAR won today's battle.
• 24:07
  So at this point, don't you think there's going to be a
• 24:09
  trial in December? That's what it's looking like
• 24:11
  right now. Let's see.
• 24:15
  NASCAR collector, I'm not sure what to think about this.
• 24:20
  I get you. But I think I think right now,
• 24:22
  look, you don't have to think too much except for the fact
• 24:24
  that today's news is very big for NASCAR.
• 24:28
  This is a big legal win for NASCAR 2311 racing and Front Row
• 24:32
  Motorsports will get to appeal this and potentially about 3
• 24:37
  weeks from now. If they were to lose this appeal
• 24:40
  about 3 weeks from now, 2311 and Front Row Motorsports, they
• 24:44
  could be racing as open teams and have to qualify their way
• 24:49
  into the races. They wouldn't be looked upon as
• 24:51
  chartered teams for 2025 and they wouldn't get all the
• 24:54
  benefits, all the the monetary benefits of being a chartered
• 24:58
  team. Yes, Chris says they've won the
• 25:01
  battle, not the damn war. That's what I'm saying right
• 25:04
  now. I'm sorry, couldn't resist.
• 25:06
  No, I think that's the perfect way to sum it up.
• 25:09
  Again, I'm no lawyer. I'm going through Bob Hochrist
• 25:13
  and what he's tweeting and what he's writing.
• 25:15
  Just like everybody else. He's the expert.
• 25:17
  I'm just jumping on here and chatting with you guys because
• 25:20
  it's a pretty big story in NASCAR, so.
• 25:24
  Let's see. Chip Ferguson says Amen, Caleb.
• 25:29
  Look at the mess in the NBA. So I understand if you're down
• 25:33
  in the NBA and ratings wise, but what I was saying earlier was
• 25:36
  about how much the athletes are making.
• 25:39
  And that's where NASCAR to me is about the only sport where the
• 25:42
  drivers are making less than what they used to make.
• 25:45
  Hockey is, is in that boat. But I think hockey and hockey
• 25:50
  and NASCAR, they kind of fight the same battle there.
• 25:54
  I mean, look at GG splits up. But those live guys making just
• 25:59
  insane amounts of money. And that's, let's be real,
• 26:01
  that's foreign money, that's Saudi money.
• 26:03
  That's how they're getting that that type of money in those
• 26:08
  contracts. That money's coming in from
• 26:09
  Saudi Arabia. So NASCAR to get on the same
• 26:13
  page as some of these other sports, they, they will need
• 26:16
  more international TV deals. But the TV deal they just
• 26:19
  signed, what was it, 7 years, $7.7 million.
• 26:23
  So that's one point. Excuse me, $7.7 billion.
• 26:27
  So that's $1.1 billion per year. You're on all these different
• 26:31
  networks, FOX and NBC, you're doing Turner now.
• 26:36
  They're streaming with Amazon Prime Video.
• 26:39
  So they're kind of they're kind of doing a little more of the
• 26:41
  NFL model. I mean, for years, one of the
• 26:43
  reasons the NFL is king, I mean, for many reasons.
• 26:46
  But for TV, they've always been represented by all the networks.
• 26:49
  You got Monday Night Football with ABC and ESPN.
• 26:53
  Obviously Fox has the package for Sundays, CBS has the package
• 26:57
  for Sundays, NBC has the Sunday Night Football package.
• 27:02
  They all get some playoff games, they all rotate for the Super
• 27:05
  Bowl. And then what?
• 27:06
  Just what this past year or two, whenever, when, when Prime
• 27:10
  jumped in for the the Thursday Night Football.
• 27:13
  So NASCAR is is following a a similar model.
• 27:17
  So there you go. I'm going to put Chris's comment
• 27:20
  up again. I think this sums it up
• 27:21
  perfectly. They've won the battle, not the
• 27:24
  damn war. Talking about NASCAR, yeah,
• 27:26
  NASCAR clearly has won today's legal battle versus 2311 racing
• 27:31
  and front row Motorsports. But the war wages on Chip
• 27:36
  Ferguson. Top NBA players make $250,000
• 27:39
  per game. I think it's more than that,
• 27:42
  dude. Think about it.
• 27:44
  If NBA players are making $50 million a year, that means
• 27:48
  they're making more than $500,000 per game.
• 27:52
  I mean what's the the biggest NBA player?
• 27:54
  The the highest paid? Aren't they making like 60?
• 27:57
  I'm going to Google it real quick.
• 27:59
  Highest paid NBA player. Let's see.
• 28:06
  OK, I got Steph Curry at 56,000,000, Joel Embiid 51
• 28:11
  million, Djokic at 51 million. That's more than $500,000 per
• 28:18
  game. We're talking at 81, we're
• 28:21
  talking about 82 game schedule. And if Steph Curry's making $56
• 28:24
  million per year, Dang, that's Dang close to he's getting close
• 28:28
  to like $700,000 per game. I'm no mathematician, but that
• 28:34
  seems about right. Let's see.
• 28:37
  Chip Ferguson's got to go. Anybody but 11 or 23.
• 28:43
  OK, so you're saying anybody but Danny and anybody but Bubba.
• 28:47
  All right, so now so, so is that just on the track?
• 28:50
  What about the lawsuit that that means?
• 28:52
  I would think you're on NASCAR's side for the lawsuit as well.
• 28:56
  I'm just always, if you look at this kind of ongoing battle
• 29:00
  between capital and labor, I always tend, I want everything
• 29:05
  to be fair. I always tend to lean towards
• 29:07
  labor and I understand it's hard to look at labor as $1,000,000
• 29:13
  drivers or $50 million basketball players or $40
• 29:17
  million baseball players. But it's still, it's still the
• 29:21
  the workers versus the owners. And again, everybody needs to
• 29:24
  eat. It needs to be fair for
• 29:26
  everybody. But if it's a tie in baseball,
• 29:29
  tie goes the runner, as you say, tie goes to to labor, tie goes
• 29:32
  to the to the workers. In my opinion.
• 29:34
  That's how I look at these things.
• 29:36
  Let's see, Chris says good news or what?
• 29:38
  It is not good news for 2311 racing.
• 29:40
  It is not good news for Front Row Motorsports.
• 29:43
  It is good news for NASCAR though, with this preliminary
• 29:46
  injunction being overturned. So for folks, just join us.
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  Kenny Wallace YouTube channel. I appreciate that.
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  Please give us a subscribe if you haven't yet.
• 30:01
  And if you like this video, if you've liked this video, give us
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  a like. But yeah, NASCAR has this legal
• 30:07
  win today, the preliminary injunction overturned.
• 30:12
  So the teams 2311 racing for Motorsports, they can appeal.
• 30:17
  And from what I gathered from Bob Parkers, his reporting is
• 30:21
  basically you have about a three-week period, you have a
• 30:24
  couple week period and if they appeal and if they were to lose
• 30:28
  their appeal, then a week after that.
• 30:30
  So basically if 2311 Racing and Front Row Motorsports, if they
• 30:36
  lose their appeal about 3 weeks from now, so late June, you
• 30:40
  could have 2311 Racing and Front Row Motorsports running as open
• 30:46
  cars, as non chartered teams. They would have to qualify their
• 30:52
  way in. So there is a chance if there's
• 30:54
  races, obviously the Daytona 500, Daytona 500 is the one race
• 30:58
  where everybody wants to get in, right?
• 31:00
  I think you had, well, you had like 7, seven cars trying to
• 31:04
  qualify for the number of spots, whatever it was.
• 31:06
  So I haven't looked at all the races and how many people are
• 31:08
  trying to qualify. But there is a chance if you had
• 31:11
  a really bad qualifying, if you crashed out and practiced
• 31:13
  qualifying, whatever it is, you can get squeezed out there.
• 31:17
  There is a chance that these teams could not be running some
• 31:20
  of these races, which is just terrible for their sponsors.
• 31:23
  And look, that's the benefit of being a chartered team.
• 31:26
  And I understand if you're on the side of NASCAR, you're
• 31:29
  saying, well, how are you able to sue us and also still run as
• 31:33
  a chartered team? I get that I tend to side with
• 31:36
  the teams in this particular case, but that doesn't mean
• 31:40
  they're going to win. And and clearly NASCAR has
• 31:43
  scored a huge win today. Let's see, we have the retired
• 31:49
  tech says, what does this do to the money won this year?
• 31:54
  Well, that's another part of this, a huge part of this moving
• 31:56
  forward. If you're not a chartered team,
• 32:00
  then you don't get the monetary benefits that these chartered
• 32:03
  teams get, right? I mean, the chartered teams get
• 32:07
  the guaranteed spots, they get the revenue sharing of the, of
• 32:10
  the TV money and all that. So that's, that's the incentive
• 32:13
  to be a chartered team. Obviously you don't, you don't
• 32:17
  own it. You're not an owner, It's not a
• 32:19
  franchise. That's the difference between,
• 32:22
  that's the difference between between a charter and a
• 32:25
  franchise owning a franchise in the NBA or Major League
• 32:28
  Baseball, whatever it is. But yeah, 2311 racing, front row
• 32:32
  Motorsports, they would lose out on all those monetary benefits
• 32:35
  that chartered teams get. And this could happen as quickly
• 32:39
  as three weeks from now if they lose their appeal.
• 32:43
  Let's see, yes, Ram is back for 2026.
• 32:47
  That's been reported by Adam Stern in the Truck Series and
• 32:50
  maybe Cletus McFarlane on board for that.
• 32:53
  I'm sure we'll hear some more news on that moving forward.
• 32:57
  Let's see. You think those two drivers
• 33:00
  think about it during the week? You talking about Bubba Wallace
• 33:04
  and Tyler Reddick? What are you talking about?
• 33:06
  Let's see. It doesn't matter who wins, JC
• 33:11
  Beckner says. The fans will not be among the
• 33:13
  winners. Now, why do you say that?
• 33:16
  I also think I don't think this is a huge distraction.
• 33:19
  I think for the most part, I mean, what, we're Dang near
• 33:21
  close. Are we halfway through the
• 33:22
  season? We're close to halfway through
• 33:25
  the season, whatever it is. I don't feel like this has been
• 33:27
  a big distraction. I feel like the racing's been
• 33:31
  pretty good lately. You had a stretch there of three
• 33:34
  or four bad weeks in a row. I think the season started out
• 33:36
  great. Then you had some of the short
• 33:38
  tracks weren't great. Last three weeks or so I think
• 33:41
  have been really good racing for the most part, or at least good
• 33:45
  shows. I think Amazon has added to the
• 33:49
  to the races with with their broadcast coverage.
• 33:52
  But what the All Star race was was really, really good.
• 33:55
  Going back to Kansas was really, really good.
• 33:57
  I think night races just also look better.
• 34:00
  So I think your night races Charlotte for the 600,
• 34:03
  Nashville, I don't know, I'm just talking about on TV.
• 34:07
  Even though some of those races you can't pass, like Nashville,
• 34:09
  you couldn't pass. The drivers are saying that.
• 34:11
  But I feel like the shows look good.
• 34:14
  You know, Ryan Blaney wins. He's a fan favorite.
• 34:16
  He deserved to win. He was the best car.
• 34:18
  He's had terrible luck this year.
• 34:20
  All those things I think go into the perception of of what's
• 34:24
  going on here. Let's see.
• 34:27
  Cletus for president running on beer debt forgiveness, I think.
• 34:31
  I think Americans could get behind that for sure.
• 34:35
  Let's see, the owners have to pay all the crew members, truck
• 34:37
  drivers, office people. There's only so much money to go
• 34:39
  around. I agree, but let's be real, the
• 34:42
  drivers are the superstars. The drivers and the cars are the
• 34:46
  superstars of NASCAR. Let's see.
• 34:50
  And we got Richard Hall hypothetically speaking at Front
• 34:52
  Row Motorsports in 2311 lose out totally.
• 34:54
  How does this impact their partnerships with Toyota, Ford
• 34:57
  Performance and team partnerships, Joe Gibbs Racing,
• 35:00
  Roush Fenway, etcetera? Look, I don't think these teams
• 35:03
  are going to be leaving the sport even if they lose.
• 35:05
  I think they'll hammer out a deal.
• 35:07
  I, I think eventually they'll, and this is down the road if
• 35:10
  they were to lose the lawsuit, you know, NASCAR wants Michael
• 35:15
  Jordan in the sport, NASCAR wants Denny Hamlin in the sport,
• 35:18
  NASCAR wants front row Motorsports in the sport.
• 35:21
  I, I think even if they lost, they'd be able to maybe sign the
• 35:24
  agreement moving forward. I think they would work those
• 35:26
  things out. That's that's the way I see
• 35:28
  this. Like, I don't think NASCAR,
• 35:31
  NASCAR is clearly pissed at Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin.
• 35:34
  You really think they're going to kick those guys out of the
• 35:36
  sport? Denny Hamlin is a first of all,
• 35:39
  you couldn't kick him out of the sport.
• 35:40
  But I think what I'm saying is you want them in the sport.
• 35:43
  Even though they're suing you, you still want Michael Jordan is
• 35:46
  great for the sport. Denny Hamlin is great for the
• 35:49
  sport. Even if you don't like him, he
• 35:51
  keeps things interesting. His podcast, he speaks his mind.
• 35:54
  To me, he's he's arguably the most interesting person in
• 35:56
  NASCAR. So there you go, here we go,
• 36:02
  let's see, McGrath 2O2 says. Just a dumb question because I
• 36:06
  don't really keep up with how the play offs work.
• 36:07
  If 2311 in front row do end up losing in the long run, are non
• 36:11
  chartered cars eligible for play offs, championships, etcetera?
• 36:15
  Yes they are eligible for the play offs in the championship.
• 36:19
  Yes they are. Absolutely.
• 36:21
  Let's see, Rex Dowell says. I think NASCAR just needs to
• 36:25
  make 750 horsepower for all the tracks and stop with the Games
• 36:29
  550 on the superspeedway and just make it 7:50 for all the
• 36:32
  tracks. Let's see.
• 36:37
  And Chris says, I don't think there'll be any bad blood
• 36:39
  between the two entities going forward.
• 36:41
  Well, I think there's bad blood right now.
• 36:43
  What I'm saying is I think there's always going to be bad
• 36:46
  blood and, and people pissed off.
• 36:48
  I don't think it's going to cause 2311 and Michael Jordan to
• 36:52
  leave the sport. That's what I'm saying.
• 36:54
  If they win, clearly they're going to win.
• 36:56
  They're going to get some more money for the teams from NASCAR
• 36:58
  if they lose. Look, they just built, look at
• 37:01
  the, what do they call it, airspeed?
• 37:03
  They just built this unbelievable racing facility.
• 37:06
  2311 racing did. They're not leaving the sport
• 37:08
  and NASCAR doesn't want them to leave the sport.
• 37:10
  So what I'm saying is even if they were to lose the lawsuit, I
• 37:15
  don't, I don't see them leaving the sport.
• 37:18
  I think they'll be able to sign some type of charter agreement
• 37:20
  moving forward. I think NASCAR wants this to be
• 37:23
  over. They obviously want to win.
• 37:25
  But but when it's said and done, if NASCAR wins, I think they'll
• 37:29
  they'll try to, to bring it in a in a respectful way.
• 37:34
  They'll try to bring 2311 in front of Motorsports back into
• 37:38
  the sport in, in a way where they have an equal footing with
• 37:42
  the other teams, right? That that's the way I see it.
• 37:45
  Got 342 of you guys watching right now on the Kenny Wallace
• 37:48
  YouTube channel. Really appreciate that.
• 37:50
  Thank you so much. I want to see how many people
• 37:53
  are watching total. Looks like we have 2200 people
• 37:59
  have been watching this live stream total.
• 38:01
  So I really appreciate that. All right, we're going on 38
• 38:04
  minutes here. Cletus news is all hearsay for
• 38:08
  now, right? Yeah, nobody said it's
• 38:10
  confirmed. This is just a report.
• 38:13
  If you don't know, it's a report from Adam Stern of Sports
• 38:16
  Business Journal that potentially Cletus McFarland and
• 38:21
  Dodge Ram will be in the Truck Series next year.
• 38:25
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• 38:40
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• 39:02
  Big NASCAR victory. Big victory for NASCAR in this
• 39:07
  ongoing legal battle versus 2311 racing in Front Room
• 39:10
  Motorsports. We'll see you say goodbye,
• 39:12
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