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610 CKTB| Bondi Beach & Jew Hate in Canada · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: We welcome back our regular contributor. Just love this guy.
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  Speaker 1: John Lidkey is here. Good morning John, Good morning Jeane.
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  Speaker 1: Now you and Adamer are buddies, aren't you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've I interviewed him for a couple of years
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  Speaker 2: while I was here in Windsor on the local radio station,
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  Speaker 2: and we've got to know each.
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  Speaker 1: Other pretty well. Yeah, he's a good guy, really does
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  Speaker 1: excellent reporting, and his reporting on the safe supply scam
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  Speaker 1: is well. He leads the way in the country. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's an expert in that field. This is a really,
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  Speaker 1: really quite incredible Well listen, listen, my friend. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I woke up on Sunday morning and I know you
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of work in the Jewish community in
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  Speaker 1: your area, and you know I thought of you, and
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  Speaker 1: I thought of Sue Ann Levy, like right away. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm watching the news out of Australia and
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  Speaker 1: it was the eleven dead. Now it's up to fifteen dead,
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  Speaker 1: so many people wounded, one small baby was killed. And
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  Speaker 1: the first thing that came to mind was the Nova
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  Speaker 1: Music Festival two years ago on October seventh in Israel,
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  Speaker 1: people running away from gunmen, and thank goodness that one
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  Speaker 1: guy captured one of the gunmen, the other was shot
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  Speaker 1: to death by police. But as a Jewish man and
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  Speaker 1: as somebody who works hard in his community, what did like,
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  Speaker 1: what was your gut feel on Sunday morning?
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  Speaker 2: Woke up, I turned on my phone and I just
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  Speaker 2: I froze. It was the same feelings from October the seventh,
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  Speaker 2: blooded over me again. Just this this tragicness, the bleakness
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  Speaker 2: of it all. But there was a bit more resolve
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  Speaker 2: this time, because, unfortunately, it wasn't unexpected. This is something
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  Speaker 2: that Jews have been screaming at the top of our
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  Speaker 2: lungs about for the past two and a half plus years,
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  Speaker 2: since October the seventh, We've been expecting another mass targeted
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  Speaker 2: attack like this, and now this is the largest one
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  Speaker 2: since October the seventh. In October the seventh was the
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  Speaker 2: largest since the Holocaust. And you know, here we are.
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  Speaker 2: It's not surprising, it's not unexpected. It's still shocking to
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  Speaker 2: see it, of course, don't get me wrong, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't think anybody should be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, our friend Joe Wormington from the Son who,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is going to be on tomorrow talking
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  Speaker 1: about the big stories in the twenty twenty five You know,
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  Speaker 1: he said in a calumn the other day, Canada has
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  Speaker 1: dodged a bullet And I believe he is right. If
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  Speaker 1: you take a look at Canada, France, and Australia all
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  Speaker 1: on the same day. They said they're recognizing the Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 1: The mayor of the largest city in Toronto, that would
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  Speaker 1: be you know, Olivia chow down the highway in Toronto.
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  Speaker 1: She was speaking to a group and she described how
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  Speaker 1: Israel defended itself against that October seventh attack as a genocide,
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  Speaker 1: and the police in Toronto do nothing when Jews are
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  Speaker 1: being taunted in the streets of Toronto, and the police
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  Speaker 1: chief and the mayor claim their hands are tight because
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  Speaker 1: of some lawyer. I mean, it's out of control. I'm
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  Speaker 1: frightened that if they don't start cracking down, something really
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  Speaker 1: bad is going to happen in Canada. I'm worried.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's take a step back, because things bad have
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  Speaker 2: already happened. We have seen synagogues targeted in Toronto. In
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  Speaker 2: Toronto and North York, there was one that was targeted
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  Speaker 2: ten times of windows being smashed. The Pride of Israel
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  Speaker 2: had its windows smashed in Montreal. Multiple synagogues have been
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  Speaker 2: defaced with anti Semitic slogan symbols and red paint symbolizing blood.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen schools and community centers have their windows smashed
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  Speaker 2: as well businesses. A school bus in Toronto was destroyed
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  Speaker 2: by arson. There have been bomb threats. In August of
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  Speaker 2: last year, there was a mass coordinated threat of over
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  Speaker 2: one hundred Jewish institutions nationwide receiving identical email bomb threats.
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  Speaker 2: Jewish day schools have been targeted with bomb threats Hillel chapters.
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  Speaker 2: This pattern seems to occur on Fridays before Shabbab or
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  Speaker 2: on Jewish holidays to maximize fear and disruption. We've seen
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  Speaker 2: physical assaults and harassment on university campuses, in public spaces,
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  Speaker 2: in residential neighborhoods, and then there's been fire bombings and
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  Speaker 2: arsons and shooting attacks at synagogues and institutions and at
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  Speaker 2: private residences. So I mean this, we're already in the
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  Speaker 2: bad place right now, but the floor can always be
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  Speaker 2: pulled out from under you a little bit lower. There's
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  Speaker 2: always a lower place to go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean Honikah is a time for celebration.
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  Speaker 1: And lighting them in the area. And I know that
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  Speaker 1: in the course of preparing my show, most synagogues have
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  Speaker 1: heavy duty security happening right now during the time which
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  Speaker 1: should be a celebration not having armed guards around your synagogue.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening in.
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  Speaker 2: Canada, you know, Jeene. I can't tell you a time
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  Speaker 2: that I've gone to high Holidays at my local synagogue
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  Speaker 2: where there hasn't been armed armed police presence there, and
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  Speaker 2: then private security as well. These are just things that
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  Speaker 2: our religious institutions have come to accept as being necessary,
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  Speaker 2: and it's unfortunate. Our governments should be doing far more.
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  Speaker 2: And the situation has only gotten exponentially worse since October
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  Speaker 2: the seventh. We've seen the great think about that, since
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  Speaker 2: the Holocaust, the largest slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust
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  Speaker 2: has resulted in our country with the highest rates of
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitism that we've ever seen. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's obscene. It's like we have gone through the looking glass.
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  Speaker 1: Why is there so much hate?
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  Speaker 2: Why is there so much Jew hate?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a it's the age old question.
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  Speaker 2: It goes back to the dawn of time. There has
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  Speaker 2: always been a hatred of a group of people who
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  Speaker 2: have sought to maintain our own religious identity, our cultural identity,
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  Speaker 2: our core values of who we are. It separates us
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  Speaker 2: from others, and we don't always as similar in nice
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  Speaker 2: neat ways. We become proud members of our community, we
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  Speaker 2: contribute to our communities, but we refuse to bow and
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  Speaker 2: to accept to giving up what it is to be
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  Speaker 2: who we are religiously, and that upsets power groups. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: there have also been, you know, just mass anti Semitic
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  Speaker 2: campaigns that we've seen over the twentieth century that have
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  Speaker 2: resulted in some of the worst horrors, and for us
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  Speaker 2: to pretend like that there aren't still echoes or adherence
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  Speaker 2: to those ideologies would make us naive.
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  Speaker 1: I scratch my head, like, why are the police not
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  Speaker 1: doing anything?
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's a great question. And I can say
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  Speaker 2: I've spoken with politicians in power about this off record
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  Speaker 2: on record as well, but I can say off record
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  Speaker 2: without naming any sources are divulging. It's because they're not
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  Speaker 2: receiving the full support of the political class. And the
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  Speaker 2: political class is motivated through votes, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: there is a concern to come down hard in a
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  Speaker 2: way where it is perceived that this will go against
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  Speaker 2: certain voting blocks, whether it be those who are perceived
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  Speaker 2: to be you know, again, I wouldn't say against Jewish people,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe more pro of the Palestinian side of the spectrum,
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  Speaker 2: people more on the left side of the spectrum. And then,
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  Speaker 2: of course, you know broadly, there are people who might
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  Speaker 2: not be educated and aware, but we see what's happening
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  Speaker 2: and don't realize that it's a war, and a war
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  Speaker 2: results in awful images on our screens, and those are
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  Speaker 2: being hyper intensified. So if there isn't the support that's
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  Speaker 2: coming from the political class, the police don't feel like
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  Speaker 2: the political class has their back, and they're correct in
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  Speaker 2: that stance. So what we need is for all of
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  Speaker 2: our elected officials or unelected officials, our community leaders to
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  Speaker 2: come down and just say clearly, this is unacceptable. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it's happening to Jews, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: if it's happening to Blasts, it doesn't matter what minority
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  Speaker 2: it's happening to. It's unacceptable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, my dad is a Halt. Well he has
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  Speaker 1: since passed and he lived in ninety seven, so that
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  Speaker 1: was a darn good life, thank you. But he was
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  Speaker 1: a hull of survivor. He wasn't Jewish, but he got
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  Speaker 1: locked up in a terrible place and just about died.
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  Speaker 1: And apparently they didn't kill him because he was a
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  Speaker 1: doctor and he was sort of helping out, I guess
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  Speaker 1: you could say. But in my home when I was
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  Speaker 1: growing up, you know, I heard the stories over and
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  Speaker 1: over again, and it was always Eugene, never forget. Eugene,
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  Speaker 1: never forget. We'll never forget is right now, but it's
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  Speaker 1: taking on a whole new dynamic and I find it.
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  Speaker 1: It makes me. It upsets me, but it really makes
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  Speaker 1: me angry.
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  Speaker 2: John makes me angry as well. And it's good to
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  Speaker 2: be angry. It's good to harbor that feeling. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: chat channel it pushed towards advocacy. Call up your local
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  Speaker 2: elected officials if you're upseessed about it, get engaged, volunteer,
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  Speaker 2: join those interfaith coalitions. We can overcome this. This is Canada,
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  Speaker 2: This is not how things have always been in this country,
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  Speaker 2: and we can get back on our way. It's just
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  Speaker 2: going to take a lot of work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, finally, on a brighter note, I love having
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  Speaker 1: your voice on the show. I'm glad that we got
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  Speaker 1: introduced by Adam and I love how you just tell
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  Speaker 1: it the way it is. I'm taking a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of time off, but we will be seeing you in
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  Speaker 1: January once again for your opinions. And in the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: a happy New Year and Merry Christmas and happy Honica
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  Speaker 1: and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, ging and to you and yours.
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  Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, happy Honica, a happy New Year and everything
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  Speaker 2: in between.
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  Speaker 1: All right, talk to you in the new year.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Curious John Litke another great voice on the show. We
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  Speaker 1: love having these people on. And how did we meet
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  Speaker 1: John Lidke, Well, we met him through Adam's evel. Who's
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