Latest / You Don't Know Ball Podcast / Episode 101: KNICKS NBA Champs! Isaac met with CJ Carr, And a look back at last prediction season!
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- Isaac Rowe: gonna know ball podcast nation. back to show. We are back after our week hiatus. We had some a certain somebody's special party to celebrate last weekend, so no episode was recorded. Well there there was there's a like some lost media episode out there if you can find it. I think there was a live. There was a live. There was a live there was like fourteen people that viewed it. I'm not sure what the hell we said of it but I think we said fudge the Knicks quite a bit and then they proceeded to win that night. Go. All right. But ⁓ yeah, we'll get into that, but Yeah, last week was good. Celebrated Alex. Yeah. Again. Congrats. And that was a good bachelor party. That was a great time. Y'all know how to host and and ⁓ some of the most incredible views on that lake. I haven't It was awesome. It was great. It turned out. I mean it was great. Couldn't have asked for better weather. Nosked for a better night out. And it's rare to have all your I was gonna say this to my coworkers, but it was like rare to have all your favorite people there all at once and you don't get that. So Right. It kinda felt like ⁓ an Avengers level event. It was a multiverse. Literally, bro. So we had the X-Men, we had the Avengers, we had a ⁓ who's in our group? The Fantastic Four, all people together. We did. We did. All coming together to face a big old threat. Yeah, Captain Luz. ⁓ for real. Some of us died in there. ⁓ it's so fun. But we're not here to talk about Alex's awesome batcher party. We're here to be a sports podcast like the name says, but ⁓ really there's not a lot happening. in my opinion. There's the World Cup, the finals just ended. It's off you just named two of the biggest things in sports. Yeah, well, why did we just go for unfinished we haven't watched any of ⁓ except the finals, maybe? Yeah. Well, I will say I mean I would like to I guess we could start with the finals. 'Cause I think that's the one that we probably all care about the most, besides maybe like with you guys like Brendan Soresby news or whatever. Yeah, I guess that happened too. He definitely has had a week and ⁓ just like college football in general, like we've obviously I've seen all like the summer training and stuff. They're all ramping up for their season to start and it's gonna start sooner than we think. but for the finals sake, you know I love I don't like seeing New York win it, but also as a Pistons fan, because it's like recency bias, the Knicks sent us out last year. Yeah. So this is my whole thing. Like as a Pistons fan, it's like, ⁓ you know, I'm I'm all down for the Knicks to lose. But in 2005, the Spurs took the Pistons out of the finals in a seven-game series. So it kind of go like that was the last time the Pistons were in the finals. So it kind of I kind of go back and forth with them. So this was like an op finals for the It really was, but I just I like how the Spurs Spurs are homegrown, honestly. Like you can say what you want about them getting the number one pick for Wemby with like the tenth or thirteenth best odds to get that pick, you know. ⁓ but 'Cause I could argue the Pistons should have him. ⁓ we'll take Cade. But anyway, I I think I like how the Spurs are homegrown because they drafted all their guys or they've just made smart signings. And I think them signing like Harrison Barnes, he's still on their team. He's a great vet. Chris Paul last year, probably huge for the development of the point guards that they have from last year and Wemby in general, ⁓ just knowing how to play with the point guard. They drafted Stefan Castle. Dylan Harper, you could have said was a a risky pick. at the time he's turned out to be just incredible. I saw something about him being happy about his role. Is that true or no? ⁓ I think I think that was before the finals. I I saw one video where some lip readers were like, Coach, why are you taking me out? Like this is my moment. And it was when they lost what game did they lose? I think it was when they lost game four. You know, they gave up that big lead and Dylan Harper was taken out of the game. Or maybe it was when they lost game one or two. ⁓ but I don't know why he would be unhappy with it. He got a ton of playing time and they have a the Spurs just have a lot of talented guards. You know, they have the sixth man of the year on their team that also needs minutes, who's happens to be six foot four is Keldon Johnson. Looks like he got a BBL coming out there. ⁓ but I mean I Back to like what I was saying, ⁓ the Spurs being homegrown, I think a lot of people were rooting for them to win over a big market team. I mean the Spurs are a big market, but New York's a bigger market. they trade for cat. Everything they have is bought. Yeah. You know, so it's like kinda one of those things where I guess you could relate it to college football in a way and college basketball. Yeah. Like everyone says Michigan bought their team. But I think Mich half of Michigan's roster from basketball was I would say they've been there a while. ⁓ I would say three, yeah. Cheddar and a lot of freshmen. Cheddar Cheddar McKinney. ⁓ McKin ⁓ McKinney's a freshman. ⁓ Carim Bidnett was a ⁓ he was there for a while. ⁓ Rodney ⁓ Rodney ⁓ Gale is there for a while. Burnett was there. Burnett was there for a minute. Yep. So I mean I don't yeah, Michigan definitely had the resources to get Yaxel and the other guy and Mara and all the other things. ⁓ god, if we don't if we don't get this. We've got Coach Rowe's being aggressive today. Dude, I like it. Penn State went for it too and they didn't get it. ⁓ throw it to him. Yes. ⁓ my god. ⁓ my god. Okay. But yeah, I mean I would say New York definitely bought their team. I also the one factor I just didn't like about New York's winning the na the basketball champ the NBA championship is just like their fans are just There we go. Let's go, baby. They're just the fans are just Fans are ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. Ruthless. Even after losses, you know, you got Knicks fans fighting Knicks fans. You got after wins, you got them searching out people in Spurs jerseys in the street. It's crazy. I saw a video of a guy in a Spurs fan in a hotel and he's like looking and the freaking Spurs Knicks fans like climb up the hotel just to get to his window. And it's it's bad. All probably so sober activities, by the way. All probably all probably sober. It just reminds me when I went there in November. And it was just New York was like peaceful. Yeah. Honestly. When I went there in November, it was you know, we had a couple like I wouldn't say incidents, but we definitely like ran into, you know, your average like homeless person who's probably Times Square. Who's out yeah, in Times Square, like just asking for whatever. And you know, it was nothing like what it would be like being a tourist in New York right now. I cannot imagine. ⁓ my god. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you're probably getting The people for the w here for the World Cup just got a complete different perspective of sp American sports. Yeah. Holy shit. I just love the video. It's like, what the hell is happening? Yeah, I kept like the German guy's like, What the hell is happening? What is happening? The bus is getting smashed in. ⁓ my word. There's like a tour. Did you see the video of like the Brazilian fans like doing a tour in the middle of the night? Like there was a guide, like a tour guide, walking around all these people there just beating the hell out of other people. I saw the day the day they won the finals was ⁓ it was f Saturday night. There were sixty-three arrests that night. Yeah. Probably more, but I just know like Once the morning light came there were sixty three people arrested. And then obviously it doesn't end there because they had the championship prey right or yesterday. Or today or yesterday, yeah. And ⁓ there was more stuff that happened with that too. Like they were at max capacity at seven thirty in the morning on whatever street they were going down. And you know, if I'm obviously players aren't in danger, like New York's not gonna do anything to the players, but to each other and the fans and stuff, like ⁓ yeah. All around here. It is what it is. It's just New York culture, man. It's a different world out there. And it's kinda like what pe what people say is true. Like in the US we got fifty states, but it's really like fifty different countries, man. Yes. Because New York is New York is You know, nothing like New Mexico. Texas. New Mexico or yeah, Texas, California. They're all so different. Mich yeah, Michigan. I think Mi Michigan's pretty ⁓ mild. Yeah. Except for East Lansing. Okay. Like an East Lansing, like beating Michigan moment was like a warm-up compared to what the Knicks ⁓ I would say that too. I would say that too. That's a that's a dynamic stretch for but that's just an every other Tuesday for the Knicks fans. For real. Now you can imagine though, like this is all pent up stuff from all the sh the just the shitty seasons that they've had. They've had when I started watching the NBA, I was in sixth grade, and that year the Pistons were mid. They we won like thirty two games. Meanwhile you have the Knicks. I think they were a fifteen win team that year. And they had Mello on their team. The next year I think they won like nineteen. Next year after that, I mean I shoot you not. This team won probably fifteen to thirty games for the first seven years I was watching the NBA. So it's like it's like wild for me to see them consistently like good now. And they're gonna be great. Jalen Brunson has definitely stepped up on my list of like p point guards now. ⁓ He's gotta be top three for me. He scored 45 points in game five. He's nuts. More than he scored more points than the rest of his team like combined. Yeah. That was a crazy graphic. And then he also gets the game winner. ⁓ he You know, I I didn't do that. It's just crazy what he's able to do. Did he do that like most of it in the second half? Feel like for game five, yeah. Yeah, that's just what that's the kind of team the Knicks are though. Yeah, I know. Every time they were they'd be down, they just find a way to win in the second half. They were down by twenty something points and they found a way to win. And I'm sure they hate that about themselves that they are that kind of team, because that's just adding extra pressure, extra stress, extra shit you have to do to try to win the game. Yep. But man, what they what they did in game four, that was just absolutely incredible. I watched the game back and I I just couldn't believe it. Like even though I knew what was gonna happen. I could not believe the shots that were going in first of all. Carl Anthony Towns, I mean he stepped up on my center list. ⁓ y he was really high regardless, but I mean Shit, man. Nick Knicks were built well. They they built their team to beat Boston. Never ended up having to face them ⁓ with this team with McCalbridges and OG, you know, guards to or wings to guard Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. Which Jalen Brown might not even be in a Celtic uniform this next year. Really? Where do you think he's gonna go? Dude, to be honest, I he won't go to the Pistons, but I think I could see I could see him ending up like I think the Celtics just need a better big, honestly. They're they're in need of a big. So I could see him maybe being like shipped off like Al Horvard's not good enough? Al Horford's. He's on the Warriors. ⁓ I forgot. The Warriors are the new retirement home. Let's be real. Yes. Seth, Dre, Jimmy. You Al. Don't make me mad. You are mine. I'm trying to think of a big they could get. Maybe like the Utah Jazz would do like a sign in trade, give them like Walker Kessler or something like that. See that. But yeah, a lot of people don't like Jalen Brown for the Celtics, which I don't understand why. He was getting MVP votes before Jason Tatum came back this year. Yeah. ⁓ I saw Devin Booker change his number from one to fifteen. Interesting. Yeah. He's honoring his dad and and he also wore that in the Olympics. That's what I saw. ⁓ yeah, he didn't. And in college, I think. I feel like it would I feel like that was his college number. ⁓ that's an interesting little fact. So we get in we get in prime D book? Ship to the Pistons? I was gonna No, I I saw a report that the Pistons are interested in Austin Reeves, which I wouldn't mind that. I I just think I just feel like we're gonna overpay for him. I really don't think Austin Reeves is worthy of get in one one hundred twenty million dollars over four years. Even though Austin Reeves is really good. Are we beating them by yes, we're beating them by two scores now. Let's go. ⁓ but you know, we need all the guard help we can get. Dennis Jenkins, he is that dude, but he's he he's that dude when he's coming off the bench. He just didn't have enough playoff experience. We need guys with playoff experience. Austin Reeves would really help there. CJ McCollum would really help. I saw a report about maybe, you know, looking at him. And then we also just need extra ooh, I I think we also just honestly need extra size. We only got three centers. Beef Stew is really small for a center already. But he like was the top five guy in blocks, so maybe it doesn't matter too much. Just built off strength. I would love just to have like a really good, like athletic seven foot center. ⁓ honestly, dude, if we could draft him, I he's not gonna be on the board. No way. No, I don't think it'll be that. Where when is the NBA draft? ⁓ it'll be coming up soon. It's it'll happen in June 'cause they do summer league in ⁓ July. So it should be happening happening relatively soon. Might be even might be next week. They might yeah, they might move into it quick. But Pistons have like the twenty first pick, to be honest. Like I'm not looking too deep into it right now. I'll wait until draft week and you know, formulate my opinions. And I'm not I'm sure we won't even do like a draft like if you want to do draft prediction episode. We can do a draft prediction episode, but we can if you guys want to. I just don't think it's that necessary. Like there's there's there's good prospects. There's Darren Peterson from Kansas. You got Mara. You got Yaxel. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ AJ. Yeah. Caleb Wilson from UNC. ⁓ Yeaxel. Cameron Boozer, who's probably gonna go number two. Rodney Rodney Harrison, is that his name? Rodney Harrison. No, Rodney something. All right, whatever. June twenty third and four twenty fourth. So next week. Monday. No, Tuesday, Wednesday. All right, bet. Man, we can live stream that. I can't believe they separated rounds one and two. I thought they did them all on the same day. Yeah. ⁓ they only do two rounds? Yeah. But they're like seventy four picks in between each one, though. Yeah, there's sixty picks. Yeah. So Yeah, making the NBA is tough. Yeah. ⁓ shit. Yeah. ⁓ I have nothing else to say about the NBA right now. I gotta say Spurs learn how to keep a freaking lead. Sorry. ⁓ Wemby learn how to pass a ball to somebody that's looking at you. ⁓ see ya never. I would say game two, that one was tough because they Spurs came all the way back. They went on a twelve ⁓ run in a minute to tie the game. And then Wemby gets it Wemby gets the rebound, turns it over. Like they made so many like And and the does the foul. Yeah. They just looked like they were the f it was their first time being in the finals in forever. And New York just w had all the confidence in the world. So Yeah. And then you have De'Aaron Fox making the worst play in finals history I think I've ever seen. Going for that layup, dude. That's what really lost them the championship because they s they could have went back to San Antonio two two. We could have had game seven tonight. I think that's when it would have been. Yeah. That was not a good that was not good. Coach Rowe is pissed. He's pissed. What are we doing? No, but I th it's weird to me that they look s like at the way they did, because they looked like n they looked pretty good against Oklahoma. Like they Dominated. I felt like they dominated to a certain extent Oklahoma series. I couldn't believe they won that series, to be honest. I thought game seven was raps. Because it kind of took them everything they had to win game six. Yeah. ⁓ and then game seven, like the Spurs supporting cast really showed out against OKCs. That's when Dylan Harper really started to shine. You really saw how good he was. ⁓ And then y obviously you saw how good Wemby was. He's a perfect counter to what OKC has. ⁓ but we're gonna have a lot of good playoff series between those two teams for the coming years. And yeah, the Spurs are really young. So all they're gonna do. So is OKC. Yeah, so is OKC. All it all they're gonna do is get better. So rip LeBron winning another chip, bro. I can't believe there was conversation of like I can't believe there was even like hypotheticals where it was like, all right, like you were saying, if Bron wins this one, I'll consider it. Yeah. If Bron wins the NBA finals this year, I'll consider him the goat. And then you got like a gauntlet that that dude had to go through. He he had to beat Houston, which he did. Then it would have been OKC, and then it would have been the Spurs, and then the Knicks. Like, bro, that's That's why I said that's why I'm saying like if he would have won all of those, I would have been like, yeah, LeBron's the goat. I was surprised he even beat the Rockets. I had the Rockets beating them. Well, guys, we just gave up a 15 point lead or whatever it was. That's right. This is par for the course for us. We're like the Knicks. We're good. We're good. ⁓ all right. NBA finals, NBA season is wrapped up. Unfortunately. It was a good season, man. I I if I had one reaction to it, I would be I would say pleased, you know, Pistons being the number one seed. First time in my waking life, you know, my conscious life, they've ever been that good. I'm asking for another name to do the same thing. In basketball? No, in football. ⁓ I mean in basketball. Yeah. anything. It'd be nice to see my team do it again. ⁓ hate you. ⁓ ⁓ you know, UCLA, their season was all right too, but you know, I I just can't wait for it to start again in October, man. Yeah. It's gonna be good. Yep. All the seasons all the like sports that we like are like wrapped up now. Yeah. And the NFL the NFL is only doing OTAs right now and college football is doing off season and then NBA just wrapped up. Baseball. Who won Shell? Shell. NHL. ⁓ NHL. ⁓ the Stanley Cup, I guess. ⁓ I it's it Colorado? No. Who won the Stanley Cup finals this year? Jack would have known. But Jack can't text a group chat worth of shit. Hurricanes. So the Carolina Hurricanes, is that what they did? ⁓ yeah. Did they beat Vegas? Yeah, yeah. They beat the shit out of ⁓ Damn. I don't see I don't see a single game. ⁓ yeah, they Vegas only won once. Wow. How many games they played? Three? Four? Yeah, it's a seven game series, so they only won. They won five. Yeah, a couple boring finals. I mean, I would say the Spurs Knicks finals was good. Like all the games are pretty freaking good games. But ⁓ yeah, when you see a sport like that, especially hockey, you want the games to be close. They're designed to be close. Yep. That's why one goal is worth one point. But you know, is what it is. Good for the hurricanes. I don't follow NHL too much. So me neither. Good good job. Yeah. Go red. You did it. You did it. Yeah, we don't have our hockey expert here, so we can't really provide you guys with anything of or any takes, but like, congrats. You guys are the best in NHL. Yeah. That's all I could say. Yeah. We still beat Canada. That's pretty good. Yeah, Canada. ⁓ All right, let's talk about some college football. I mean, I could I I have this story today that just happened. So Levi had a camp in Notre Dame, so shout out. Marcus Freeman and the gang for putting on that camp for all those youngsters. It was all it was cool to see. Levi obviously learned a lot, so We're getting him up to speed he's starting to love the game more and more. But the camp went well. It was good to see ⁓ we got to see like a preview of the guys w doing their summer conditioning and stuff and those are they look massive in person. They're hyped up and they look the hype looks real, in my opinion. I mean, I even got moged by like Carr, who looks so tiny on like T V and stuff like not tiny, but you think he's like six foot, six one? Yeah. Dude is like three inches tall. I even got moged by like Carr, who looks so tiny on like T V and stuff like not tiny, but you think he's like six foot, six one? Yeah. Dude is like three inches tall. Than me in that picture. I'll put it up on the episode so you guys could see it. But it it was like damn. And the the worst part of it all is like I went ⁓ I went literally. I went to go dap him up and I was like, hey, what up, CJ? And he turned away and he didn't see me go up for a dap. So he just completely missed it. ⁓ damn. And I was like, all right, can you take a picture? Than me in that picture. I'll put it up on the episode so you guys could see it. But it it was like damn. And the the worst part of it all is like I went ⁓ I went literally. I went to go dap him up and I was like, hey, what up, CJ? And he turned away and he didn't see me go up for a dap. So he just completely missed it. ⁓ damn. And I was like, all right, can you take a picture? And then he like I put my arm around him and he was like this. I'm like, all right, cool. Thanks, CJ. Damn. ⁓ Was he like weird with you? No, he wasn't weird. I just said thank you. He's Yeah, no problem. He was chill. Yeah. But it's crazy that a twenty three year old's posting up with a twenty year old who's making millions. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. That's that's another assault in the moon there, but you what I mean. That's the thing. Like I didn't even think about that. We're we're the age where it's like we're now getting to the point where like, ⁓ college football is now younger than us. Now you guys we're I mean, shoot, dude. NFL football is gonna be younger than us. Dude They are. already are. They already are. And it sucks because all I still want players autographs and all that shit, but I mean if it's like CJ, I would have gotten his autograph if I asked, 'cause he's like gonna be a first round quarterback. Or a high round corporate. Dude, you literally had the chance today. Jeremiah Love You literally had the chance today. You literally touched him today. Jeremiah put your arm around him. Never washing his hand again. ⁓ my god, bro. Jeremiah Love is twenty. I would have gotten his autograph. I mean, even Blake we're older than Blake. No, we're the same age as Blake Coram. Yeah. We're same age as Blake Corman. We're a few months older than we're We treat these guys like celebrities. We're at least the same age as Trinidad still. Yeah, we are He might be older. Hey, represent represent the young people. Hey, Car Carson Beck was older than us. That was a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Also spent eight years in college. So Carson Beck. Trinidad's on his sixth year in college. So I won't doubt if he doesn't Job. You need a job. COVID year and red shirt year. Yeah, yeah. So No, he's good at football, so he's chill. But ⁓ it's just weird that like these these guys who are younger than us and they're in college football are like celebrities as soon as you meet up and I I'm at the age where I'm like, I'm older than you, but like I still look at you like you're you're the goat. And like I sent a picture to Blake Monroe. Shout out Blake. ⁓ he was like, Are you kidding me? I missed this. And then he sent the the Shane Gillis like gun in his mouth. Yeah. He's like, I'm never going to work again. ⁓ but the thing is, like, the funny thing the funniest thing about that picture is like UCU, who is just like basically an a no offense, average Joe. Like going to a football camp is because it's his favorite team. And then you see a T V model who has like no nothing wrong with him. Like he's six foot five. He has like frickin' no no ha facial hair, no acne, nothing. You're pale as hell. That's what million that's what millions of dollars does for you. Bullshit money does not make you happy. That's all I'm gonna say that's serious. No, you're not kidding because I'll be like, ⁓ shit, this kid's not any different than me. And then I went to go see JJ and like This kid's completely different. This kid is way better than I ⁓ how I feel. Like I go to these cans and like every single one of these kids are a better athlete than me and they're way better at like school and I'm just like a nobody. Yeah. So I mean I think I think all of us like not not failed athletes, but just former like athletes in like high school and you know, those of us who go on to college and whatnot. We don't end up being pros. I think we all have that sort of realize crisis and realization. But at the end of the day You know You're still a fan of your team. There's there's levels of the to this shit. I played D three and I considered myself like I'm a pretty good athlete. And then I walk up to this camp and I'm seeing these guys run four threes and jump out of the gym and just be ridiculous and throw the ball seventy yards. I'm like, yeah, there's there's definitely levels of this and I'm not this level. Not ⁓ not all of us are built the same. Like I saw I I saw a guy, Drake Bowen. I saw Drake Bowen too. I didn't even take a picture of him. But that guy is like ⁓ tank. Go, go, go, go. Yes, Derman. He's he's built like a damn tank. ⁓ yeah. And I'm like, ⁓ I wonder how much he weighs. Two thirty. I'm like, ⁓ really? I bet I bet I'm like faster than him. I bet he runs a four seven, four six. Is he as tall as you or no? ⁓ he's probably two inches taller, I think. Is there anybody on the Notre Dame football team that you saw? today. That's shorter than Aeneas Williams. And he was barely shorter than me. He's a running back. But he's a running back. And that's weird because you're a linebacker in D three. Yeah. So there's I mean, I don't know. It's cool to see, but I'm like at that age where I'm like, all right, I gotta either be like my dad's age and take my kids there to get autographs like, ⁓ I you're really good at football. Or I gotta be like Levi's age. Or like all these guys are super like I've kind of shifted to this a little bit because I d I don't know. It's just kind of been a little weird, but I'm like, you either be a fan of like how we we are when we grew up, or you'd be a fan of the brand. Like you'd be a fan of, yeah, I love Michigan football. And you can still be a fanboy, I guess, to a certain extent, but I like the brand of Michigan football more than it I don't really give a shit who's on the Michigan's offensive line. But I want to win football games at that point. Yeah. So I think that's kinda When I was watching UCLA this year, I'm like, damn, there's not a single person on this team that's older than me. Yeah. Which sucks. Like when I like yeah, when I was watching did I say UCLA football? I meant basketball if I didn't say basketball. But 'cause like basketball is a sport, you know, I care about, but I I think the same way. I'm like, you know, cause I'm I'm thinking it from a coach perspective. Like Mick Cronin's been there for six years in college it's different because all these players are only there for four years max if they stay the whole time. One year. So it's like you kinda have to be in that mindset of like, ⁓ like you kinda have to really get more connected with the coach. Honestly. Yeah. Because they're gonna be there and they're most likely older than you. Or when you get older, they're on like the same wavelength level as level than you. So it's like I find myself forming more of a relationship with parasocially. Yeah. The coach. That's how I am with like Marcus. Like I see Coach Freeman, I'm like, all right, that's that's a guy that I like I would sit in a room and like talk to him, try to learn as much as I can. Yeah, I love Shrone were like that too. Yeah. Shr if Shrone would be looking at his phone too much. Dude, I would I that yeah, continue Isaac. I'll go into my point. But like with the players now, like obviously I like CJ and I like Jeremiah Love. Like those are those are some dogs. But guys alleged. But ⁓ I don't know. It's just we're getting to that age where I'm like starting not to pay attention to who we have on our roster and just look at the stars like, ⁓ I got a six star today. A five star I mean I mean five star today. That's sweet. I don't even know his name. I probably won't until later. But I still know a a handful I a healthy amount of the guys on the roster. ⁓ I do too. I know all the I d I know some offensive linemen, but the defensive line and offensive line and tight end group I couldn't I could not tell you other than like this pretty much one of the starting I couldn't I c and and that's another thing. There's so much turnover in football. You can't you you have to be like studying the books or be on every single move that now where these guys are. I c I could tell you maybe like one or two interior guys that I know of and then that the rest is like I'm chopped. Like I have no idea. Yeah, that's fair. We have all we all have jobs. Like we can't just spend our entire day looking at these. And then I listen to a podcast later in the day and it's like, yeah, Nordane's got the best defensive line in the entire country. I'm like, what in the hell? I don't even know any of these guys. Yeah. But I think you could say that about a lot. There's these are all like way too early, like ⁓ ratings and stuff too. ⁓ 'cause like people were saying Clemson obviously like was gonna be good last year. Listen, and that's I hate what and like ⁓ I hate when people do that. Like Greg McElroy's and the Jill Clatts and the Gus Johnson's and the ⁓ Pete Thamels, they all say, like, ⁓ this is the number one team in the country. They're gonna be the win the national championship. They're gonna be so good so good. And then they're five and seven at the end of the season. And ⁓ it's like how d how do you get it that way strike bowl and they're like, How do you get that wrong? I mean, I love prediction season, but I also don't love when it backfires, especially on us, because like I would I would say it backfired the most on you. Probably. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. 'Cause I I know nice go jelly bean. Ooh That was such an unnecessary ankle breaker too. Such a unnecessary move. I yeah, I would say it's worth it's a lot like it doesn't matter as much when it backfires on us 'cause I mean ⁓ no one's really responding to our takes too much unless you upload them to TikTok. On TikTok, that's what I was gonna say. You're sending yourself to the wolves wolves when you upload it ⁓ our clips to TikTok, but it's like You haven't done that in a while. I remember I remember last year like we were all like saying like game of the years and stuff and like I think we all picked like probably a pretty whack one, you know. I I think I So we'd bo yeah which one did I say? I said Clemson versus Florida State was gonna be a good one. ⁓ yeah, I remember that. I said and like obviously, like, yeah, for the time it's like that'll be an all right pick, you know. I said Clemson versus North Carolina. So Yeah, I remember week one? No, that's what he was that was early on. I don't even remember what I picked. I probably picked Michigan, Ohio. But you know what? The weird thing is is that Joel Clatt and all those like un big time announcers could say the same exact thing as us. And they and it goes wrong and you won't you'll hear crickets from everybody. Like no one will even mention it. We'll have we'll say the same thing and we'll get flamed until the day it gets proven right by the fans. Right. No, they'll come back and be they'll be like, see, told you so. I'm like, all right, bro. No, because someone will side with us and like respond to it and they'll be like, you know, they'll agree, and then you'll see like three months later, once the game finally happens, how'd that work out for you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, why are you coming back to find this? You know what? I'm I'm guilty of this too, because I remember when we first started this podcast and the TikTok page, this guy said something like Vanderbilt would not be better than ⁓ like Arkansas. This year? It was two years ago. ⁓ okay. It was when I was like, Vanderbilt's got Pavia. I think they'll be decent. They will probably win seven games. They won they ended up winning eight. Yeah. And I c I went back, I'm like, ⁓ I remember this TikTok. I went all the way back. I found his comment. It was like three months later. I said, eight and five eight and five, buddy, what do you think about that? And he's like, I'm a respectable man, you proved me wrong here. I'm like you're damn right. At least at least at least he gave you a nice response. Squashed the beef. You could be like you could find a guy that'd be like ⁓ We've seen some people like that. And I I look at those comments, but I never responded. Like it's not even worth it. No, it's not. It's kinda like it's hard as like a host on the pod to see that. Especially if it's like a clip where you're saying something and it's like you get disagreed with and it's like obviously it's i This guy's I'm not like insecure about it, but it's like it's like damn, it's like It's not a hate comment either. It's just like an opinion. Does someone agree with me for once? Yeah. No, you'll see the Patrick Starr, like, brainless gif dropped in your comment section. Like, what the hell Well, I was like, ⁓ man. Remember when we were talking about offensive line? And I was I it was like our first TikTok. Our first episode, too. First TikTok first episode, and I said that Michigan had a good offensive line. And I got ⁓ I was like, I was in Nashville trying to enjoy myself. And every five minutes I would look back and be like, this guy sucks. What the hell? Yeah, there's plenty, there's plenty of more of that coming. Fat. I'm like, what? I feel like the only person on this podcast that really hasn't gotten inflamed is Jack. And Jack just picks like all the best teams. And he's yeah, this is gonna be a really good line. And everybody's ⁓ yeah, great take, Jack. Jack doesn't put himself to the dogs. I feel like he he low key will though. Like he'll randomly don't randomly spew, like I feel like those clips just don't get picked. No, I know. I gotta pick something for him. Yeah, don't worry. Prediction season is coming back, and there will be plenty of more times where you guys drop that Patrick Starr brain loose meme. So get ri get those ⁓ You know what's really, really cool cool like clean to see is like ever nobody really hated our Christmas draft. No That was funny. That was fun. That was a change of pace. That was that was that was nice. You know, that was a that was like a cool glass of water. They were trying to find a way to disagree and they'd be like, that offensive line though. No, our O line was low-key cracks. Buddy the elf at quarterback doesn't it doesn't get much better than that. You can put some in here, but I get I think it I think you got it right. I'm like, ⁓ thanks, bro. Yeah. And then you have that random guy's like, Why are we doing a Christmas draft? It's like the guy the guy just finds it in February. Yeah, I think it's like March. He's Why are we doing a Christmas draft? Like, dude, this was months ago. That Christmas season was was pretty fun. ⁓ Like the couple weeks we had the tree up and everything. We're gonna do it again. Spiked hot chocolate, whatever it was. Yeah. We're gonna do the defensive side, I think, this year. yeah. We'll do the defensive side. Running out of characters. ⁓ Definitely two way two way player. Definitely looking to forward to ⁓ prediction season this year. Also, we are gonna do our chat GBT first episode next week, I think. Yeah, probably next week. Yeah, didn't wanna do it this week because it was just not enough planning and like we don't wanna we don't wanna wing it. We'd want all four of us here. Right. You know, we'd probably go through two seasons. Yep. I agree. We gotta figure out how to set it up on the I think I'm just gonna have you join on your computer and just mute and like share your screen. That's literally on the on the T V? No, on the just literally riverside. Literally just have it on your lap and just Yeah, that works. Works works. I mean we didn't want to rush it. It's gonna be a good season W I bet I di I'm feeling it. We need to prov we need to provide some content, quality content this year. Well last year's was alright. I would say for what we for what we were working with over Zoom, I think I think it was alright. No, I completely agree. I'm just saying that we're in the dead season. We need to we need to do something. Other than other than prediction season. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I I gotta get more wild with now that I know more what's going on, I'll be able to give some better takes. 'Cause like I think my probably probably my worst take from last year was like my surprising team from the Big Ten. ⁓ yeah. I think I said Illinois and that was probably like my worst. They were at two. I remember that. It was bad. I think in the beginning of the year they had a close game against might have been Penn State, honestly, but It might have been, I don't remember. I just I just know I saw that like all the predictions were saying like they'll be solid, they'll be solid, so I like, All right, if they're gonna be solid then I'll pick them. I think they might have won around mid mid mid level games. Yeah, I think they went like s eight seven and five or eight and I guess that not that bad of a pick, but yeah. We'll see. See what happens. But All right, I think that's a good place to call it up right here. Obviously we are ⁓ one man short, so we're playing a big episode for next week. Mm-hmm. All right. Final takes, everybody. ⁓ you know, USA represent the country well out in the World Cup there. ⁓ I know we got one win against Ur Paraguay or Uruguay. One of the Guays. That's how you know we ain't watched this shit, so but maybe I'll maybe I'll watch the highlights at work tomorrow or something. So we'll see. Catch me up never watching them. Yeah. ⁓ congrats to the Knicks. As much as I hate to say it. Hate to say it man enough to ⁓ congratulate it. Go Knicks. Go. Good for them. Nick's, I mean, obviously, I I was pulling him for for a little bit because I like Brunson, but ⁓ you are a Brunson? I like I like Brunson. All right. I think he's I think he's funny, but I want him Wemby to win, not gonna lie. Dude, I love honestly, Brunson and Josh Hart together are really freaking That's just nostalgia. Dude, I saw a video where it was like someone was going up to Brunson, or someone went up to Brunson on the Knicks media team and was like, ⁓ my god. He was like, ⁓ You know, c call call your teammates and wish them wish them good night. And you know, it's like eleven o'clock at night. Brunson's still shooting around in the gym. So that's just how you know he's working. You know, he's outworking everybody. And he calls Carl Anthony Towns first. Cat goes Kat goes, This is Carl. And then wait Brunson goes, Hello? And Carly's out Carl Anthony Towns like Nah, I'm just kidding. What's up, man? Carl. I thought it was voicemail. He goes, I just wanted to say goodnight. And Carly Carl Anthony Towns Man, get the hell off my phone. It was really funny. I'll have to send it to you guys. This is Carl. This is Carl. This is Carl. Hello? Not in his zesty voice. This is Carl. All right, Alex, what do you got? Nothing. Nothing for me yet for now. All right. I mean looking forward to prediction season and chat GPT season. Remember the Like and subscribe. ⁓ buy our merch. Buy our merch. Shout out Emily. She's got some new stuff on the way for ⁓ her main website. But we'll see if we can get some more stuff for you on our team lab shirt. Team Lab shirt inbound. So pick that up. all right. Good? Yep. 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