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Pre-Draft Questions and OL Prospects | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April eighteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by the Saint John's River
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  Speaker 2: And now a guy still.
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  Speaker 1: Standing after avoiding a play in Jay.
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  Speaker 2: P Checker and welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 3: It is April eighteenth, one week to the NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 2: A busy hour ahead. Well, because it's a week ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the draft.
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  Speaker 3: The pre draft media luncheon today featuring Tug Peterson and
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  Speaker 3: Trent Balkey. We'll hear from both the head coach and
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  Speaker 3: general manager. Some comments from them coming.
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  Speaker 2: Up shortly earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 3: The players back in the building for the offseason program
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  Speaker 3: Phase one, Trevor Lawrence and Foyer Lucan. We'll hear from
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  Speaker 3: both of those guys. We'll keep it real as we
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  Speaker 3: always do. Microsoft questions coming up in just a little
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  Speaker 3: bit as well. Happy Hours brought to you by the
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  Speaker 3: We're on Tintin Xcel, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP
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  Speaker 3: Shadrick with Jeff Logoman, who is finally making his way
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  Speaker 3: into the studio. Welcome welcome a thousand welcomes. Glad you
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  Speaker 3: could make it with your fresh hot coffee with creamer
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  Speaker 3: in it and good afterdoate.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. JP was just conversing with a few of
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  Speaker 2: the leftover media members in the media room. Those aren't leftovers,
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  Speaker 2: those are those are fresh starters. Those guys yah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: But I mean the other leftover guys, the guys that
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  Speaker 2: are still kind of hanging out for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I was looking at my watch, going, uh, guys, I
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  Speaker 2: gotta go. You don't have to go far, which is
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  Speaker 2: a good night. I didn't have to go far about
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  Speaker 2: this building. And so yeah, busy week. Players are back.
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  Speaker 2: There is today Balky and Peterson speaking today, and we're
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  Speaker 2: a week to the draft, and there's a lot to
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  Speaker 2: discuss today. It's a it's a it's a cool time
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  Speaker 2: year for the NFL because you know, this is the
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  Speaker 2: Hope Springs Eternal. I guess he's saying that you could
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  Speaker 2: kind of use for this time of year because every
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  Speaker 2: team is kind of getting started with the off season stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and so there's a little bit of excitement that builds
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  Speaker 2: in every community that these NFL teams are at. And
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  Speaker 2: then also with the draft, right around the corner. That
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  Speaker 2: provides hope for a lot of teams that haven't been
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  Speaker 2: that good that hey, look, maybe this year we can
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  Speaker 2: really get some good players to where we can we
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  Speaker 2: can compete, We can compete for a title, including this team.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a fun time of year to be an
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  Speaker 2: NFL fan because you're not losing. Everybody's good. Everybody's got
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  Speaker 2: a hope. Yeah, most everybody who doesn't namely one team
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't have hope Cardinals. Yeah, that's true, there's one. Gosh,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on? I mean, are you following what's going
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  Speaker 2: on with uh with Terry McDonough Bill, Well, No, he's
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  Speaker 2: not soon everybody. He's just he's going to go after
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Bidwell, I mean some of the things that
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  Speaker 2: are coming out, all that kind of stuff. If people
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  Speaker 2: haven't read it, I mean, go read about the Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: and Terry McDonough who I know Terry. He was here
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  Speaker 2: for a period of time with the Jaguars, and he
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  Speaker 2: filed a grievance against against the Cardinals, which it's his
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  Speaker 2: right to do that, that's how the system is set up.
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  Speaker 2: And then the Cardinals came at him with almost a
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  Speaker 2: personal attack and which found was found by an in
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  Speaker 2: house person that looks at those things for the NFL
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  Speaker 2: founds to be true and they were bad mouthed and
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  Speaker 2: Terry as his family. I mean, it's just a bad thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that was the first team that popped in my
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  Speaker 2: head that might not have a we'll see, well, if
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  Speaker 2: you got bidwell running the show, Yeah you've got you
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  Speaker 2: don't have a whole lot of chance of winning football
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  Speaker 2: games in Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to a team that does have a chance,
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  Speaker 3: and this is Jacksonville Jaguars, of course, and the GM
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  Speaker 3: Trent balk and head coach Dog Peterson speaking earlier today
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  Speaker 3: at a press conference at two o'clock here at the
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  Speaker 3: Miller of Electric Center, the pre draft media lunch and
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  Speaker 3: Trent Bulkey discussing trade possibilities from number seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot, as.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that goes into it. You know, we feel
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  Speaker 4: good about the group that's there, you know, at different positions.
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  Speaker 4: You know that we're focused in on a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: but you don't know what's going to happen, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you don't You really aren't going to know what we're
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  Speaker 4: going to do until maybe the twelfth or thirteenth pick,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and then we'll we'll look at the opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to potentially move up, you know, and if we get
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  Speaker 4: to sixteen, like we did last year, and somebody calls
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  Speaker 4: and there's a chance to move back one or two,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you just don't know's you're playing it on
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  Speaker 4: game day.
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  Speaker 2: So he mentioned last year. It actually last year logs,
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  Speaker 2: the Jags moved back twice in the first round before
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  Speaker 2: picking Anton Harrison in the first round the right tackle,
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  Speaker 2: and it is. It happened a number of times, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: eight different times, eight different drafts. The Jaguars have first round.
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  Speaker 3: Trade history, either up or down or trading back into
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  Speaker 3: the first round, starting way back in ninety five, they
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  Speaker 3: started thirty first overall with a supplemental pick. They obviously
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  Speaker 3: had the number two pick that year with Bisselli, but
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  Speaker 3: they had a later pick and moved up to nineteenth
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  Speaker 3: overall in that draft to get James Stewart. Rob Johnson
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  Speaker 3: traded a Buffalo to get the ninth overall pick. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: in ninety eight Fred Taylor two thousand and seven, Reggie
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  Speaker 3: Nelson was the pick when the Jags moved down to
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  Speaker 3: twenty one two thousand and eight. Derek Harvey was the pick.
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  Speaker 3: They moved up to eighth to get him. Twenty eleven,
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  Speaker 3: Blaine Gabbert moved up to tenth to get him. From
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  Speaker 3: sixteen twenty twelve, moved up from seven to five to
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  Speaker 3: get Justin Blackman, and then a trade up back into
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  Speaker 3: the first round in twenty two to get Devin Lloyd
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  Speaker 3: and as we mentioned Anton Harris from last year. Leave
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  Speaker 3: that graphic up for a minute Jaguars dot Com free video.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at that graphic and you say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: what can be learned from this? What do you take
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  Speaker 2: away from that graphic? Because you know, hindsight's always twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, look, you sometimes have to use hindsight
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  Speaker 2: to be able to learn about what not to do
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  Speaker 2: or what to do in the future.
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  Speaker 3: I see James Stewart had some big moments here. Fred
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  Speaker 3: Taylor certainly did.
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  Speaker 2: Well. That's not really I mean, that wasn't a trade
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  Speaker 2: active trade during the draft process. That was okay, So
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  Speaker 2: I don't consider that. I'm talking about trading up or
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  Speaker 2: down in the first round. It costs you a lot
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  Speaker 2: to move up, I know, well, and also look, you
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  Speaker 2: trade it up to get James Stewart, Okay, good football player,
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  Speaker 2: solid guy, I mean, great guy. Was it ultra productive? No?
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  Speaker 2: Reggie Nelson seventeenth and you moved to twenty first offs
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  Speaker 2: trade back, but then you moved up to the eighth
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  Speaker 2: spot overall for Derek Harvey. That did not work out.
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  Speaker 2: It did not work out for Blain Gabbert. But I
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  Speaker 2: get it. You're taking a shot at a quarterback. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you have to do that. You traded up to get
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  Speaker 2: Justin Blackman. It didn't pay any dividends, okay, and then
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  Speaker 2: you also, uh with Devin Lloyd. You traded up to
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  Speaker 2: get Devon And right now, if you if you're making
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  Speaker 2: an opinion on that, is was that a success or
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  Speaker 2: was that just kind of Eh? I think we're still
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  Speaker 2: the jury is still still being determined. But right now,
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  Speaker 2: if you had to make a decision on it, you
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  Speaker 2: would say, eh, it's not wasn't a great It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a great trade, but it's not done yet. And then
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  Speaker 2: you know, to trade back and to get Anton Harrison,
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  Speaker 2: you acquired so many extra pixel The lesson is to
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  Speaker 2: me is that trading up is not necessarily a positive thing.
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  Speaker 2: And Trent Balkey alluded to that. In this press conference today,
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  Speaker 2: he said, Look, the analytics guys will tell you that
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  Speaker 2: trading up is never a good thing, and he's right.
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  Speaker 2: I just unless you're going up to get a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: In my opinion, for every other position, you just stay
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  Speaker 2: put where you are, or you try to move back
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  Speaker 2: and then take the best available player, not a guy
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  Speaker 2: that well he might be the best player, but we
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  Speaker 2: got a need there. No take the best available player always,
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  Speaker 2: in my.
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  Speaker 3: Opinion, unless you know for a fact, in your heart
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  Speaker 3: of hearts, that the guy you're moving up for another
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  Speaker 3: position is a Hall of Fame talent, right.
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  Speaker 2: And how do you really know? You don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know that. But if you haven't know that,
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  Speaker 2: if you as a percentage of game, it's a percentage
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  Speaker 2: of game, you know. So you've got Aaron Donald sitting
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  Speaker 2: there waiting on you. But that is coming out from Pittsburgh, JP.
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  Speaker 2: I watched the film on him, and I'm sitting there
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  Speaker 2: watching the film and I'm going and he's really good.
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  Speaker 2: He's got quickness, he's got sudden this. But man, he's
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  Speaker 2: kind of small. I mean, like I said, I watched
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  Speaker 2: the film on him. I didn't see Hall of Fame guy.
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  Speaker 2: I watched the film on t J. Watt and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, and I don't think he's the first rounder.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably a second rounder. He's one of the best
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  Speaker 2: players in the league right now. You know, So again,
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  Speaker 2: it's a percentage of game. But you know, when I
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  Speaker 2: watched the defensive end in Cleveland, hands down, this guy
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  Speaker 2: is a super freak. No doubt, this guy is a
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  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame type of talent. I mean, but I mean,
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  Speaker 2: so that's one of the guys that I probably watched.
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  Speaker 2: When I watched Clowney coming out, I was like, Clowney,
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  Speaker 2: this guy can do everything. He's sudden, he's violent, he
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  Speaker 2: can play anywhere, he can be moved around. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if he's a great pass rusher saw me. My
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  Speaker 2: evaluation on him was pretty fairly accurate. It wasn't perfect
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  Speaker 2: because I thought that he would be more of an
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  Speaker 2: impact throughout his career. But one of those guys it's
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  Speaker 2: just you know, freakish. And so again, because it's a
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  Speaker 2: percentage of game, I don't ever think that you go
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  Speaker 2: into any pick saying this guy's a Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 2: It just doesn't work that way. The other part a
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  Speaker 2: lot of conversations they have about a thirty minute at
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  Speaker 2: plus press conference today for Trim Balke and Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 3: But he talked about the different variables that you look
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  Speaker 3: at when scouting in prospect. One of those is football
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  Speaker 3: IQ and how do you scout that as a GM
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  Speaker 3: and a scouting staff.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we zoom call these guys. We send coaches
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  Speaker 4: to workouts, we send coaches to meet with them, We
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  Speaker 4: bring them in on the thirty visit. We get in
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  Speaker 4: front of them as much as we can every opportunity
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  Speaker 4: we get a chance to talk to a guy that
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  Speaker 4: we have concerns about, we do. We interview them at
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  Speaker 4: the Combine, We interview them at the All Star Games,
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  Speaker 4: we interview them at their pro days. We get as
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  Speaker 4: much time in front of them as we can. The
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  Speaker 4: coaches make calls to the to the coaches that work
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  Speaker 4: with these players. You know, you gather as much as
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  Speaker 4: you can, you know, and so and usually by the
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  Speaker 4: time you get to the draft, you got them pretty
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  Speaker 4: well figured out from that perspective. And sometimes guys come
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  Speaker 4: in and they fool you, you know, and you can't
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  Speaker 4: just use test scores to say a guy can learn
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  Speaker 4: or can't learn that doesn't work. There's guys that have
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  Speaker 4: had low test scores that learn extremely well. There's guys
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  Speaker 4: that have had high test scores that don't learn very
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  Speaker 4: well when it comes to football. So you just got
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  Speaker 4: you just got to do your homework.
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  Speaker 3: And we know from the past around here, at least
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  Speaker 3: the recent past, that Doug Peterson from a coaching perspective,
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  Speaker 3: needs that high football IQ type of player, and certainly
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  Speaker 3: in those skill positions at wide receiver when guys are
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  Speaker 3: moving and routes can change mid play and you've got
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  Speaker 3: to be on and know everything going on.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's pretty unique. My experiences in the
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  Speaker 2: league for being around it for a long time as
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  Speaker 2: a player and then as an analyst, is that there
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  Speaker 2: are different kinds of smarts. I mean, you don't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: have to have a player who is book smart to
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  Speaker 2: be smart in football or to have football IQ. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: some of the smartest guys I was ever around, some
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  Speaker 2: of them weren't book smart, but man a new football
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  Speaker 2: and they had that instinct, that anticipation when they played
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  Speaker 2: the game that other guys that were smart and could
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  Speaker 2: test okay on paper outstanding, but you put them in
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  Speaker 2: that moment, and they just it didn't. It didn't function,
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  Speaker 2: It didn't it didn't compute for them. So I think
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  Speaker 2: Trent is spot on when he talks about how there's
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  Speaker 2: different kinds of football smarts and you know, and and
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  Speaker 2: the one thing that I would do if if I
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  Speaker 2: was a gym, and I'm sure that this football team
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  Speaker 2: probably does it, I would think that they would, is
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  Speaker 2: that you're getting ready to invest in the in the draft. Okay, JP,
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  Speaker 2: this year's draft class. What's the total amount that this
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  Speaker 2: team has to spend for this draft class? Ballpark? Do
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  Speaker 2: you know? Ten or something? Ten to ten? But it's
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  Speaker 2: ten million? But I mean contracts overall. If you added
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  Speaker 2: up the total value of the contract, it's what is it,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred million? I mean it's expensive. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money cheap. So if you're getting ready to invest
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  Speaker 2: millions of dollars, would you hire a quote person to vet,
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  Speaker 2: to do background research, to investigate everything that you could
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  Speaker 2: find about the prospects that you say, Hey, look we
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  Speaker 2: like these guys. Let's know, let's get to know more
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  Speaker 2: about them. I'm private eye, I mean whatever you want
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  Speaker 2: to call. I would want to know everything about these guys.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm getting ready to drop millions of dollars down
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  Speaker 2: in an investment and to bring in to my locker
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  Speaker 2: room guys that I know could have a big impact,
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  Speaker 2: and then they also could have a bad impact. I
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  Speaker 2: want to know as much as I can. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying that you need to have sherlock homes guys
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  Speaker 2: in there like doing this wire tapping and things all that. No,
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  Speaker 2: and no I'm not talking that smart. I know that
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  Speaker 2: was awesome the shoe phone, the shoe phone, pull that out.
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  Speaker 2: But to the point of that, you you try to
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  Speaker 2: pursue every relationship, every avenue that you possibly can to
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  Speaker 2: investigate somebody's background that you're going to be investing millions in,
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  Speaker 2: And not so much because of the dollar amount, but
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  Speaker 2: because if you if you mess up and somebody's a
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  Speaker 2: bad person, you've lost an opportunity to improve your team.
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  Speaker 2: So I would think when Trent talks about you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're talking to all these people and that's all part
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  Speaker 2: of that vetting process and doing the background work to
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  Speaker 2: find out who that person is at its core.
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  Speaker 3: Plitting ahead, we'll hear from the head coach, Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 3: We'll hear from Trevor Lawrence on the contract discussions.
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  Speaker 2: That's all ahead.
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  Speaker 3: We're on tendonextlam, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, JP Shatwick
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  Speaker 3: with Jeff Logoman and Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to
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  Speaker 5: There's definitely been some conversations, you know, as far as
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  Speaker 5: where that's at now, it's not really my focus. You know.
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  Speaker 5: I'd love to love to obviously be a jag so
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  Speaker 5: for as long as possible. We love it here and
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  Speaker 5: I love where we're headed as an organization and feel
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  Speaker 5: like I'm just getting better every year and my best
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  Speaker 5: ball is definitely ahead of me. So from that standpoint, obviously, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that that would be great. But like I said, it's
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  Speaker 5: going into my fourth year. It's not like this is
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  Speaker 5: necessarily gonna be my my last season. You know, There's
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  Speaker 5: a lot that could happen, So not really my focus
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  Speaker 5: right now. At the end of the day, my job
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  Speaker 5: isn't gonna change whether I get extended or not before
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  Speaker 5: this season. My job is to go win games and
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  Speaker 5: to be the best I can be for this team
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  Speaker 5: so we can have a chance to win a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: So even if I get the contract extension, that's still
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  Speaker 5: my job even more so, you know, he's even more
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  Speaker 5: expectation and pressure on that. So for me, I have
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  Speaker 5: the same focus, in the same mindset.
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  Speaker 2: I can't lie.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, it would be nice to have to have that
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  Speaker 5: done and you know, feel good about it, but no,
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  Speaker 5: it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Really the focus right now.
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  Speaker 5: I know where we're at, I know where we're heading,
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  Speaker 5: and I know what I have to do, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: there's some improvements that I have to make going forward.
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  Speaker 3: That is Trevor Lawrence earlier this week discussing the contract
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  Speaker 2: Well. Trent Balkey today discussed the other side of those
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  Speaker 2: conversations real quick though, let me just throw out there,
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  Speaker 2: because you know Trevor's conversation about his contract and me
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  Speaker 2: and you were having a conversation during a break and
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  Speaker 2: that they have the opportunity to pick up the fifth
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  Speaker 2: year option in May, and May second is the deadline
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  Speaker 2: for both of the first round draft picks that year.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be him and Travis etn And because Trevor is
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  Speaker 2: in and his party and Trent talked about how they're
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  Speaker 2: having conversations with Trevor's people as we talked about that
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  Speaker 2: this recently is last night, yep. And so I was
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  Speaker 2: going to make the suggestion to Trevor because you see
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of these NFL players that are doing that
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: now that they stopped following the team on social media.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: And so Triv's going to say to Trevor, you know,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: he needs to stop following the Jaguars, you know, remove
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: any kind of Jaguars logos from the social media accounts
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: until he gets a new contract. Is that the not
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the dumbest thing you've ever heard? How people do that?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: It was just stupid. It's childish. Who was the latest
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: guy that just did that? I can't remember who it was.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I was reading somewhere. Didn't Jalen do that too? And
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: such a childish clown act? I mean, come, on. Are
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you serious, boy, that's really gonna change this posture of
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the negotiations if you remove your team from your social
• 17:55
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  Speaker 2: last week. Thank you for that. We appreciate that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Let's continue with the Jaguars head coach, who was also
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: at the podium today alongside Trent Balkey. And you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I was asked a lot about the working together, the
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: cooperation between scouting and coaching, and it continues here in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 6: It as far as you know, our involvement is a
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: staff myself, it's it's the best.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I've been around.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: It's one of the things that Trent really has been
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: open to to, you know, the evaluation process from the
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: coaches right, and he understands the coaching side of it
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: as well as the scouting.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Side of it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: And in the involved has been you know, it's the
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: same every year. It's probably even gotten a little bit more,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: you know, just the more comfortable that we are working together.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: And and you know, it's it takes everybody, you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: to put a roster together, and it's not about one
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: guy making all the decisions right and and so there's
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: a lot of input. He values what the coaches say
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: and how the coaches ranked and stack players just like
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: you know, you know, we appreciate what the scouts do
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: because they're the ones that are out there, you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: every single day scouting these players. So it's been a
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: really good process and one that one that uh, as
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: a coach, you know, you can really appreciate.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: So that's Doug Peterson's perspective and response about that today
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: at the press conference. Full press conference available at Jaguars
• 19:47
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• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And this is an interesting time of year because.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Players are back in off season program, so you've got
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: to balance what you're doing with them for at least
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: a few hours a day and getting the you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: everything the new defense going and all this go on
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: strength and conditioning right now, and then you're getting ready
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: for the draft as well. And you're contributing to that process.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: So for a head coach, there's a lot of this
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: play well.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And they also talked a little bit during the press
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: conference because now that you have a new defense and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator, for example, pass coaches here in
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the past, Mike Smith wanted a certain type of corner,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: wanted a certain type of defensive linemen. Hey, Gus Bradley
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: wanted the length corners, you know, the tall, long kind
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: of guys, kind of like what they had in Seattle
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: back in the day. Mike Caldwell wanted corners that could
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: place a man. Okay, what does Ryan want? You know?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: You know then, so there's been these conversations. According today
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Tent Trent said that they had a conversation. Last name
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Ryan Nielsen, right, the new defensive coordinator, and him and
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Trent had a conversation about the type of players that
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: he wants to have for his defense. And then also
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Trent alluded to the fact that it's kind of comes
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit from that mindset of the parcels camps
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: of trends that he has experienced kind of looking for
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: those types that Nielsen is looking for. But that's important
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: because coaches always want to have a certain skill set
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: at every position group in their mind that's going to
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: be able to function to make it all work together.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see a lot of things
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball this year. Number
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: one is the draft and how they draft and what
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: type of players are they going to be targeting. But
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: then also what's that the targeted players, how are they
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: going to fit into this new scheme? Because you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: we we think we know what the scheme is going
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to be, we don't know for sure because every time,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: even though a defensive coordinator may move from Team A
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to Team B, a lot of times the staff that
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: he has from Team A to Team B will change
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: and sometimes a little bit of that scheme will change
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: along with it because of input from others. So it'll
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: be fun to watch to see all of that come
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: together again.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: The full press conference from today available at Jaguars dot com.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Let's rewind a little bit back to Tuesday. It was Tuesday, right,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Today's Thursday.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Today is Thursday, all day? Right, Every Thursday, we do
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: this show all day. It's Thursday, not all day just well, no,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the show's an hour four to five this time, but
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: twenty four hours. It's Thursday, but two days ago was Tuesday,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and that's when Trevor Lawrence we just heard from a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: moment ago and Fourier lu Khan, the Jaguars linebackers spoken
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: as you said, logs a little different on defense, new coordinator,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: some new faces there. But for Fourier Lukhn he's been
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: around here for a couple of years now. He's trying
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to make that transition as well. There's a lot of
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: new However, he's.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Not putting away the disappointment of the disappointment of last
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: season so easily.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: That would be in a rearview maybe next year after
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: this season. I mean, I got a lot of questions
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: on it throughout the offseason, and it's hard to think about.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: This win.
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: It even started. We started off winning, but we weren't
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: winning convincingly. How maybe the score mightish, but we knew
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: that we weren't playing our best football, and I think
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: a lot of those things caught up to us. And
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: then trying to right our wrongs a little too late
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: in the season. Then it's a little bit more stressful
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: when teams are hitting their stride and we're trying to
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: find out how to do things right. Yeah, that hurt
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: for sure, and I think it will fewel us. Everybody's
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: committed to doing things right this time around. You know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: you don't want to say we don't want to get
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: in that position again. And it starts from the first
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: game all the way to the last, you know, but
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: just keep it improving every week, no matter who this
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: scoreboard is, you know, keeping our standard every week, because
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: sometimes you win games that you didn't play your best.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: Now you don't learn from them if you're not trying
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: to get better. I think that kind of happened to us,
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: and we're not going to do that this year.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Foyer, look can pretty telling answer about how things were
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: last year. That might be the most relaxed I've ever
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: seen him in front of the camera. Usually he's so intense. Yeah,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: he's kind of relaxed. It's that time of year though.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I get I got this part of it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: But maybe the environment's a little different too, right, maybe
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: not going on the last couple of years.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe as he alluded to there it Uh, you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Foy is a super smart guy. You know we were
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: talking earlier about football, like Q you want to talk
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: about football like you? That guy right there if there
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: was a way to mine or to withdraw some of
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that football IQ and share it with the rest of
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the team, or yeah, like you'd like take blood out
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: of him, you know, because it's got all that football
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: IQ transfusion. I mean, he's just he's incredible. I mean literally,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: when you watch the film on him, he is always
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: stepping in the direction that the play is going before
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the play is actually going in that direction. It's amazing
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to watch he he is Darryl Smith in Jaguars history.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about special inside linebackers that I really enjoyed watching.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: First of all, I love the motor of Mike Peterson, Okay,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and the guy was just, you know, one hundred miles an
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: hour all the time. Darryl Smith. The consistency, the strength,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the the such a rounded game that he could play,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the mic, the sam the will, it didn't matter whatever
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: should have left Jacksonville. That's never it was. That was
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: one of the dumbest decisions in Jaguars history, was letting
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: him go anyway. But how watching Foyer on film is
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: pure joy. You can look at his seventy fifth snap
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: of a game and compare it to his first snap,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and he's still playing at the same speed. I don't
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: know how anybody can do that. But watching the anticipation
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that he plays the game with is fun to watch
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and it's impressive to watch. I think that the people
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: that know football and can really and people that have
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: played the game that like me, that are watching a
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: guy like that, that says something that he's fun to
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: watch just because of that standpoint, the intelligence that he
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: plays this game at in that realm too. Oh my god,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Paul's yeah. But Paul was one of those guys that
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: he just never wasted a step. So he would wait
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and then he was just, you know, gone, But he
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: never wasted steps. He didn't anticipate as much as Foyer does.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: To some extent, he was good, but not quite as
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: fast with that first step. Now, Telvin Smith was always
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: one step behind, but he was so dag him fast
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: getting there, or he would run ahead of it and
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: catch back up because he was so fast. He was
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: amazing just the speed that he played the game at.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: But I mean pause, Darryl Smith and Foyer, I mean
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: those guys, I mean, that's that's the elite class in
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Jaguars history. I mean, some really really good players and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: the other fun part about I know Paul and because
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Leslie enjoyed this, was that he had eleven interceptions. Well
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: he was there as well. Yeah, one of them. That
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: tells you he's back in coverage and reading things right.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: And maybe what's the way you remember the most Oh,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning right, and he had the love or something
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: on his hand, the weird was going on something, have
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: something going on with his hand and he early in
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the game picks it off and takes it to the house.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: But that takes That tells you he's the quarterback. He's
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: back in coverage. He's athletic enough to do all that too.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And that's football. IQ pause.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I used to love hearing Gus Bradley say pause. It
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: was puzz It was never pause.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Speaking of Gus Bradley. Side note here before we go
• 27:16
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• 27:20
  Speaker 3: they have local prospects from maybe schools around here or
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: they grew up here with Carter Bradley, and Carter Bradley
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: quarterback was here, Gus's son.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's a prospect. He's a possible draft pick, maybe
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: late round pick, possibly undrafted guy, but yeah, he's a
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: diehard fisherman Carter Bradley is so yeah when he was here.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: You know, he's a young man, so he's grown up.
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  Speaker 2: Who do you think is gonna be the first overall pick? JP?
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of a big mystery, is it. That's the
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  Speaker 2: Southern cal quarterback we're talking about. Williams is going. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Who's gonna go second? Just trivia for you? Probably another quarterback?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think Jayden Daniels? Probably, I would say
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  Speaker 2: probably who's picking second? I don't even know. In Washington,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I'll probably go May I take May two, and then
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: there'll be probably Daniels right after that. It's my guess. Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: His accuracy this past year was was pretty incredible. Touchdown
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: interception ratio was good. He's athletic. Yeah, he's gonna be
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: fun to watch him. But man, May he's got that
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: those numbers, you know, I mean, sometimes in the numbers
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: you can't let them overrule the performance. But when you
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: watch his tape, he's got that that height that you
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: know that you can see he can he's got a
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: he's got a big arm, he's a big guy. I mean,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: he's kind of that prototypical NFL quarterback. I just I'd
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  Speaker 2: be surprised if he doesn't go second. But you never know,
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  Speaker 3: So our topic today, three positions the Jaguars should pick
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: up this week or next week rather in the draft,
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  Speaker 3: there's a for whatever they will pick them up, whatever
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  Speaker 3: three positions they should draft this year, go top.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Three and you want them ranked. I want them ranked.
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  Speaker 2: I mean right now, if you do it as far
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: as needs go, corner I would put at the top,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: just because Darius Williams is no longer round. This is
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: a passing league, and right now you need some help
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: in the back end. You got a pretty good amount
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: of depth and quality of play at safety, but corner
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: is where you need help. And you've been trying to
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: get some late round picks to hit over the last
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: couple of years, but really nobody has risen to the front.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: So I think that's number one. Number two I would
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: say is offensive line, interior or out side. I think
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: either one because and then having a guy that can
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: have some flexibility maybe play inside and then eventually move
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: outside or vice versa, I think is great. You've got
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: to protect from the franchise, and the franchise is your quarterback,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. And last year you had a deficiency on
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: how physical you were up front, and that needs to
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: be addressed. In my opinion. I have a question side
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: note question. We'll get to number three in a moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's wrong with having a guy that plays one
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: position and you know that's solidified for ten years.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that at all, because you can move
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: somebody else if somebody else has some positional flexibility.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I guess that guy is hard to find. Obviously, which
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: one Which guy's hard for? The one guy who's there
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: for ten years that you know is a rock and
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: solid and is going to be a franchise.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean, Joe Alt's going to be a
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: rock ten years on tackle. I mean what he's not
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: swinging around? And again, nothing's set in stone because if
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you remember, I remember going back to my draft classed
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I think it was, and the front page of the
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated was future Hall of Famer Tony Manderich and
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: people are like, this guy's a shoeing of the Hall
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: of Fame. He's going to be the next great offensive lineman.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And it didn't happen, you know, I mean, the steroids
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: thing kind of came out. He was an average player
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: at best. I mean, but he was an average player.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, so it's not like he was a poor player,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: but I mean it's one of those things it's hard
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: to find somebody that's going to do that. But Joe
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Alt from Notre Dame is a guy. If he's available seventeen, JP,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: i'd probably take him. He's not going to be available
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: at seventeen like.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Cam Robinson, right first pick of the second round, and
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I mean he's been the left tackle for I would tell.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: It, look, the position's corner offensive line. And then the
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: third one, I'm gonna just throw it out there because
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give it a specific position because
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: it can be on the inside or it can be
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: on the outside. You got to have somebody that can
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: rush the passer, and right now, I think you don't
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: have a lot of depth on the edge. If you
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: can get another edge rusher by all means, if look
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: if LA two's there at seventeen, I mean there's some
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: you were drooling about it last guy and I told
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you about it. He's just crazy good. Jared Verse Florida
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: State would be my second best edge rusher. Love them.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: And then you have some some of the smaller guys
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: that I don't put in those two categories. The kid
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: at Alabama, Dallas Turner, I believe his name is. There's
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: a kid at Penn State that's pretty good. A chop,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: no chops two. There's another one there, chopped. Well, I
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: think where thirty three. It's number twenty at Penn State,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and I could find it in a minute. But Isaac
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: and then, oh gosh, I'm trying to think of who
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: else there's edge rushers. But I mean those two guys
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: are the elite players that you're talking about is law
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: To and Jared versus. In my opinion, it's about a
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: disa Isaac where it's twenty Yes, thank you Penn State.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: So I mean those three positions, corner, offensive line and
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: a pass rusher. The interior did the defensive tackles. You've
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: got Zrhan Newton and Byron Murphy. I believe it is
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: from Texas. Newton is from Illinois. These guys are kind
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: of interesting in that they're smaller guys. When I say smaller,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: shorter guys, not small, I mean they're both three hundred
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: pound guys, but they're shorter. There's six to one, they's
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: six two. And some people are comparing Murphy to a
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: little bit of Aaron Donald. I don't know if I'd
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: go so far to make that comparison, but he's a
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: really good football player and Newton obviously Illinois guy. So
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: that's the alma mater of Tony Kahan and Shad Khan,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: and so there's a little bit of home bias there,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, just because he's a good football player from Illinois.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if I mean the guy that
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: you just brought in, Eric Armstead, six foot six, two
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: hundred and ninety pounds, that he's got arms that are
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: so this long. Right here, JP, that's pretty long. Let
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: me turn it this way so the cameras can see
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that are listening on radio. Just imagine my part on radio.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: He's it's long, my arms are spread wide. But I mean,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: those top two rated guys at defensive tackle, they don't
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: have that kind of length. And there's not really a
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: defensive tackle that's that's rated as a first round talent
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: that has that kind of length. So it'll be interesting
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: to see how that that position works out for this team,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: because remember we went into the season, we said they've
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: got to get better on the interior of offensive line
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and the defensive line. They got to get more physical.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: We did say that, we'll see can they do it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Clock's about to run out you got to do it
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: at some point. That was keeping it real. Each week
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: we do a draft position preview, and you touched on
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: one of the guys in this position group we're going
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: to talk about today offensive tackles. I ask you each
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: week to pick your top three guys or three guys,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: not three guys.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Three.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start with Joe al of Notre Dame. Who
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: you like. He's he's just so big and he's I
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: guess he's young, but I don't know the specifics of
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: his birthday or anything. But he's like six foot eight,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty two pounds, and he's kind of
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: so long that when you watch him get down in
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: his three point stance, his butt is like higher than
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: his shoulder pads a lot of times. And it's just
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: so odd because, like when you watch Baselli get down
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: in the stance, he'd be able to have that bend
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and his shoulder pads were above his hips. But make
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: no mistake, Joe Alt is a punishing blocker, got tremendous length.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: This guy is I think it's hands down, he's the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: best offensive lineman in the draft. And I mean again,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: it's a percentages game, so I'm not making any guarantees,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: but this is one of those guys that you feel
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: like has a chance to be that starter at that
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: one position JP for a decade. He's twenty one years
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: old by just turned twenty one. Yeah, he's a young
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: twenty one. Yeah.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: His dad is John Alt played for the Chiefs from
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: eighty four to ninety six.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I played against his dad. How was he Pretty good?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Pretty good, big long guy, just like just like Jones
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: and the family up here. Yeah, JC Latham Alabama tackle. Yeah,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, he's not rated amongst the top three
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: or four guys on a lot of boards, but man,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: you watch the film on him. First of all, he's
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: got the size. He's a six foot six, three hundred
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and thirty five forty pound guy. Somewhere he's big. He's big, okay,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: but he carries it really well. And when you watch
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: him on film, he moves effortlessly. I mean, he's just
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: a very graceful, big guy that moves very well. I
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: think the ceiling is really high for him. I think
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: what we've seen from him at Alabama is just I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: think just the tip of the iceberg to use that
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: statement there, But I mean I think He's got a
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: lot of room for growth. He's a right tackle now,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: it was a right tackle at Alabama. I think he
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: could play left, but I think he's very comfortable on
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the right. Leave him at right and in today's NFL
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: left tackle right tackle, they both need to be good
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: pass protectors. He is a special player just because of
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: the grace that he plays the game with, the agility
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that he plays the game with. And it's not very
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: often that you have somebody that's six foot six three
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: and thirty five forty pounds that moves gracefully. That's not
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: easy to find.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: No, it's yeah, it's really tough, and it could tell
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: you a lot about what the future could hold for
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Cam Robinson and Walker Little if they were to go
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: with this position very early in this draft.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: You know could could And by the way, just a
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: side note, he's not in my top three, but Mims,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the guy from Georgia who has not played a lot
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: of Marius Mims. He's a guy that I think could
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: be a good second round pick for a team. He's
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: he's also got some of that that gift of natural
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: size and athleticism as well. But my third guy is
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Fuanga's a last Fuaga Oregon State. It's actually Fuanga. There's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: an n in there that's in the pronunciation, that's not
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: in there in the spelling. And this is a big
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: mauling right tackle. One of these guys that if you
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: want to have a little bit of attitude with your
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: offensive line, which this offensive line here needs a little
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: bit of that, he's gonna provide some of that. The
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: one thing that I will say about him is that
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be He's a little over aggressive with his
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: past stuff. He gets caught, he gets his arms chopped,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: he gets caught leaning, which has me a little bit concerned.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: But he's just got kind of naturally gifted feet the
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: way he moves which is fun to watch uh and
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: he definitely likes to He's not very nice on the field,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: which is what you like in an offensive lineman, and
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I think that's his biggest strength. And he's just a
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: big dude, I mean, naturally big dude. The h The
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: other guy that is on the top of many boards,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: which is Troy uh Fought New Fought New from Washington.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not fo U, t a n u and a
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: lot of people are excited about him. And when I
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: watch him, I see guard. He's he doesn't have that
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: that natural size that Latham or f Wonga has, or
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: that Memes has or all he's he's shorter in statute.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: He's got really good hands and really good athleticism. But
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I just, I just I think he could play tackle,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: but I think his natural spot as guard, and I
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: think he's got a really natural movement to him. I
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: think he would be better suited to playing guards. Did
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: you look at Olu fashion U from Penn State tackle?
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I did, and he's he's big. I mean, he's naturally big.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Don't watch the Ohio State game. Don't watch it, noj JP.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, Touey mooloow for two years in
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: a row, rip that offensive line to shreds, including him,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: And there's when I want when I didn't. Well, there's
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: a reason many team people have him rated in his
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: in the top three because he's a left tackle. There's
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: something about him that's a little off. Like when he sets,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: he doesn't gain a lot of ground with his sets,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: So he's kicking but he's not gaining a lot of ground.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: And then so a lot of times he ends up
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: having to turn to catch up to chase a guy.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: And when an offensive tackle turns to chase a guy,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: he's essentially opened than the gate shortening the corner. And
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: he's a he's a little stiff, a little stuff. And
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: that's why I have he wasn't on your list, why
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: he wasn't on my list? Many people had him up there.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: He's a big guy. Now he's six foot six, you know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: and and but again it's there's something a little bit
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: too mechanical. And then again the steps don't seem.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: To be as fluid. There you have it, I look
• 43:20
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• 43:46
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• 44:10
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• 44:12
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• 44:23
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• 44:26
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• 44:28
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• 44:46
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• 44:53
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• 44:56
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• 45:00
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• 45:03
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• 45:07
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• 45:11
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• 45:15
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• 45:19
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• 45:23
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• 45:25
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• 45:28
  Speaker 2: going to use that as motivation, and then they should,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I mean they should be better and angry about it,
• 45:33
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• 45:37
  Speaker 2: were they eight and three? Yes, and team or people
• 45:41
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• 45:44
  Speaker 2: team to beat in the National Football League, and then
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: it was the most epic collapse in franchise history. And
• 45:50
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• 46:20
  Speaker 3: at Jaggs Fan at seventy two. What are the chances
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: of the Jaguars getting the trifecta this offseason? Josh Allen
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: signed check extend Trevor Lawrence and the stadium deal. Well,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I mean the Trevor Lawrence stuff's being talked about.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I'm I trying to put a number on this. I
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: mean the chances, right, I guess chances first of all, percentage.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not in those discussions, but that Trent Balkey is
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: having an all show. As Trent said today, ownership is
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: involved in that because the size of the contract is
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: going to be probably bigger than the initial value of
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: the franchise when it was purchased by Wayne Weavers. Sure,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I'm being dead serious. I mean
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: that that's where that contract's probably going to be at
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: which is a large number, and the stadium deal. I
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: would hope that it gets done. It needs to get done.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: From all reports, it's trending the right way, So I'm
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: feeling positive on all fronts. If you a percentage that
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: eighty one, you put a number on it, I'll go
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: seventy five. It's good. I'll go seventy five, you know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: seventy seventy five somewhere in that range. Yeah, good, it's good.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I hope it's like one hundred
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine because there's never a sure thing
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: in life, you know, So I'll stick with the ninety
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: nine point nine because it's April eighteenth. But seventy seventy five?
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: What else?
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: You got a lot of weeks ahead at gt RZ
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: and seven to one? What is the real difference between
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Doug calling plays versus press calling plays? Ultimately, doesn't Doug
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: have final say? From Trevor's comments, it seems he wants
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: press with the continuity unless he's just towing the company line.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: But I don't get the impression that that Trevor tows
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the company because he feels like he's off with a
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: toe company line. So I think that's a little bit
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: of a I don't want to say it's an insult,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: but it's it's not very fair. Trevor, I think is
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: very open and honest and speaks his mind. And look,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: I get it, and that Doug always has the ultimate authority.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: He's the head coach, and he's an offensive minded head coach. Now,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: what's the difference between Doug or Press calling the plays.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I think every play caller has a groove, and every
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: play caller can be in a groove and then also
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: lose the groove. Just like a batter in baseball, you
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: feel like you just you know, when you step to
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: the plate, you're seeing the ball and you're just feeling
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the ball and you're making great contact, and then sometimes
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: you hit a slump and sometimes you just don't feel
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: like that. Hey, I just can't I can't make anything right.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I can't swing the bat well at all. And I
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: think sometimes that happens with a play caller too. You
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: know who have the groove in the second half of
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: games in twenty twenty two, Press Taylor exactly. Yeah, so
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden he can't call plays. I think
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: they're both capable of calling and uh and yes, Doug
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: has the ultimate oversight because he's the head coach. Yeah,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: he can veto and he's on the headside. He can
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: make suggestions, he can do he can tell Press what
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to do. Hey, Press, By the way, you're gonna call
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: z X right thirty four on two and give him
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: the snap count as well. I don't mean whatever that
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: play call would be. What would that be? You think,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: what's that? That Z whatever you just said? Just making
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: it something up, you know, I mean defense. It was
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: just so simple. Pirate, Let's run the pirate, Yes, you know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: over pirate cover three? Okay, break off the offensive terminology.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Put it this way. If it was if it was
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: like an efficiency of use of words, defensive play call
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: might be like five words. An offensive play call might have,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: you know, and defense would have a combination of words
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: the numbers. So I will say five total. I'm not
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: gonna talk of offense football IQ of defensive players. Offense
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: might have like twelve to fifteen word number combination. It's
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: a lot. It's very different.
• 50:03
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• 50:18
  Speaker 2: four Virginia State High School baseball champions. I have a
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