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Show 122: The Person of the Redeemer · The Uncensored Catholic

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The f a, hey're looking to today's show. We'll pick up where we
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lift off yesterday. The questioner in radio replies continues to ask the priests really
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about the differences between Protestantism and Catholicism, and you know why they say that
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Catholicism is superior. And the person says, but a reformed church is not
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a new church. Now, this is the person who has had said that
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Protestantism, this is a previous question, is not a protest against Christ,
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but against the Roman Church. As if there was a Christianity separate from Catholicism
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before Protestantism, and as if there could be afterwards. Well there's not.
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They say, Protestantism is not a true reformation of the Church. The identity
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of the church is indissolubly lengthd with a continuous identity of doctrine, worship,
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and discipline. The so called Reformation involved the abolition of essential doctrines, worship
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and discipline, substituting completely different and humanly invented alternatives. Person says the prist
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and churches have as much right to say they have the truth as the churches
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of Corinth, Ephesians, Colossians, etc. In early times, and they
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answer, you are supposing that proestant churches have the same doctrine, worship and
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discipline as those early churches. But this is an unwarranted supposition. Those early
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branch foundations of the One True Church had true doctrine and were in communion with
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Saint Peter, Bishop of Rome, who addressed his First Epistle to the Galatians
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and several other churches. Proestant churches do not hold the same doctrine as those
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early churches, nor do they acknowledge the same obedience. Also, in all
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countries where Protestant churches exist, there exists also the Catholic Church, which corresponds
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exactly to the churches of Corinth, Ephesians and Colopisrussians. Very true. I
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mentioned yesterday that recently, you know, some King James Baptists was on I
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don't remember if it was Twitter or another site saying that you know, those
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churches, the Ephesians, Colossians, et cetera, were different, independent churches,
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just as there are now many different Protestant churches, and the Catholic Church
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didn't come into existence until I don't even remember what year. They said it
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was ridiculously twelve hundred and something, but those churches were not under the authority
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of the Catholic Church. Well, you know, even just reading the Bible,
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you see Saint Paul and continuously telling them to obey their bishops and the
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presbyters and all that. You know, if a man would not listen to
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the church, let him be to us a heathen. You know which churches
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you're supposed to listen to if they're not unified. They all gave difference to
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Saint Peter as the Pope. Well, Protestants don't believe that because you know,
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it's not specifically spelled out in the Bible, which is kind of ridiculous,
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because the Bible didn't even exist for the first you know, intact.
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It had not been compiled and put together and published as a volume as we
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know it now and translated into a language most people can read until the three
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hundreds. So you can, however, read the writings of the early church
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fathers. They're very easy to read. Now that we have them online.
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Anybody can access them. You can read Pope, say, Clement of Rum,
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the third Pope. You can read Polycarp Irenaeus, all these great saints,
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and you will read very specifically that they were Catholic, that they all
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deferred to the Pope. This is in the first one to two hundred years
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of the Church, before the Bible was even published. And if you want
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to go further back in then you can go to d dot K, which
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was the Teachings of the Twelve which was written before the Book of Revelations was
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even written, and it was the teachings of the Catholic Church and the only
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church in the world that existed, and it specifically makes reference to everything Catholics
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believe that the Eucharist, how we go to Mass, why we go to
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church on Sunday, and that we are Catholic. So you know, this
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is a Protestant myth. And the bottom line is you can always say to
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them, okay, point out to me a church that wasn't Catholic. And
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if they say, well, let's go with what did he what did this
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person name Corinth Ephesians Colossians, Okay, Now go find me the earliest writings
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and records of that church. And once they do, they will find out
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that church was absolutely Catholic, completely in union with the Pope and ron under
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the authority of the bishops, with the Eucharist and Mass, just like we
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have today. The problem is you'll never get that far because they won't read
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anything other than the Bible. You could say, look here, here's a
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letter from the actual bishop of that church in you know, two fifty a
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d. And they refused to read it. And if they if they did
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read it, they would say it was false. I mean, there's no
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way to disprove. To some there's no way to prove a negative. That's
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the old saying. There's there's no way to prove a negative. It's like
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when the old political tactic. In a debate, one politician says the other,
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when did you stop beating your wife? And the other guy's like,
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well, I never have, and immediately he looks guilty. You know,
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if someone makes a false accusation, the only way you can disprove it,
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Like if they say, you know, you robbed a bank on Friday the
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seventeenth of September twenty twenty three, you would have to have a record of
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your self being in a different place doing something else, if the only evidence
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against you was a charge. You know, that's why our court system actually
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works on evidence. I guess, unless you're Donald Trump and then someone can
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make up an outrageous story about you, and a biased political judge and grand
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jury will find you guilty and you have to pay millions of dollars for something
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that never happened. You know. That's why even you know in the Bible
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it says unless there are two witnesses to something, you couldn't bring a charge
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against somebody. Yeah, there's a reason. That has been part of law
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for thousands of years up until the time Donald Trump left the presidency and the
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world came after Trump and his supporters. So we have innocent people rotting in
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jail right now and have for the last three years and almost a month.
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So the person goes on, According to you, Christ was a Catholic.
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All followers of Christ therefore belong to the Catholic Church. The hey answer,
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Christ, as the founder of the Catholic Church, was of course a Catholic.
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But your conclusion does not follow. Many profess to believe in Christ,
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but do not accept the whole of his teaching. They are mistaken. Certainly,
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the Anglican does not believe in the correct doctrines of Christ, if the
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Baptist does. The Catholic Church alone teaches the complete doctrine of Christ and the
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only way to become a Catholic is to submit to her teaching authority and disciplinary
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directions. Person says, since Christ forbade divisions in the Church, you must
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admit that every Christian church is a branch of the true Church. The Protestant
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churches are but offshoots of the Roman Catholic Church. Wow, that's a stretch
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of that's not even logical, they answer. The Protestant sects constitute a breakaway
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from the Catholic Church Church. That is their condemnation, for there could never
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have been a valid reason for leaving the church established and guaranteed by Christ.
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In any case, branches of the Church must be living branches, still retaining
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their union to the parent tree. The Catholic Church as established in England,
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or in America or in Australia fits in with the idea of living branches.
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But at best, Protestant sects are branches sawed off and without the true life
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of the tree. Protestant churches are divisions from the church, not coordinated parts
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within the church and making up one complete body. Well, let's move on.
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We'll get to Father Sparaga. We're still discussing the life of Christ.
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And we left off yesterday with the ascension, and now we're going to talk
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about the person of the Redeemer. Very very interesting section. Here he begins,
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Jesus Christ, our Redeemer, is the Son of God made man.
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Hence he is God himself, the incarnation of the Son of God. The
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Heathen had very early conceived the idea that God had descended from heaven and mixed
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with men. The Greek mythology is full of it. Now God has actually
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come down to earth at the moment of the anunciation zero point one. The
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second divine Person became man in the womb of the blessed Virgin Mary by the
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action of the Holy Ghost at the moment of the anunciation. Lewis Granada writes,
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just as the Sun must be wrapped in clouds if we were to gaze
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upon it with eyes undimmed, so God wrapped himself in flesh, as in
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a cloud, so that the eyes of our soul might bear to look upon
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him. Human thought must be clothed in words to reach our ears. So
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God clothed himself in human nature to reach the souls of men. The Word
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of God, i e. The Son of Man was made flesh, I
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became man and dwelt among us. The incarnation took place in the instant when
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our lady uttered the words, be it done unto me? According to thy
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word? They err who think that human nature was first formed and afterwards united
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to the divine person, just as the Valentinians were wrong in asserting that Christ
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brought his human body from heaven. Christ received his body from the Virgin Mary.
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He was made from a woman at Galatians four to four, and was
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the seed of David Romans one three. The son of Man came down from
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heaven. It is true in regard to the divine person, but not in
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regard to his human nature. We must, not, however, imagine that
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the Divine Essence came down from heaven and unite itself to the human nature.
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This would mean that all three persons of the Blessed Trinity had assumed our human
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nature. Such a thing as impossible. For such a union would require a
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chance in the Divine Essence, which is incapable of change. Only one of
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the divine persons, the Son of God, assumed our human nature. God
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i e. A divine person, not the Godhead i e. The Divine
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Essence. Became man. There is, however, an intimate union between God,
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between the nature of God and the nature of man in the person of
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the Sun. And it is certain that all the divine persons had their share
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in the working of the incarnation, For in the work which God does outside
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himself, all three persons of the Trinity have their share. The incarnation is,
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in a peculiar manner, the work of the three divine persons. The
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three divine persons formed a human soul and a human body, united them to
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the second and united to them the second person of the Trinity. As Saint
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Augustine puts us in the guitar, the sound seems to come from the strings
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alone, yet three elements are wanted, the human hand, the skill of
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the player, and then the string or as Saint full Us full Gentius,
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I believe, is how you pronounce? That explains. The body and soul
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are necessary for a man to profit by his food, Yet the body alone
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receives nourishment. So the three persons of the Trinity cooperate in the incarnation,
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but the second person only was united to the flesh. The incarnation is ascribed
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in a special manner to the Holy Ghost because it is the greatest work of
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God's love. The Church teachers that the works of love are ascribed to the
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Holy Ghost, who is the love of the Father and the Son. According
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to the Fathers, there is no doubt the Church fathers that either God,
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the Father or the Holy Ghost might have become man, but it was meet,
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it was proper. That's what he means, that he who is the
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Son of God from all eternity should become the son of man, that he
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who is the perfect image of God should restore to mankind the supernatural image which
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have been lost by sin. The Father of Jesus is therefore God the father
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in heaven. Joseph, the spouse of Mary, is only the foster father
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of Jesus. Saint Gregory the Great tells us that Christ is the son of
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God not only because he's the second person of the blessed Trinity, but also
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because God formed his sacred humanity in the first Promise of the Redeemer. As
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we read it in the pro Too Evangelist pro to Evangelium, Christ is called
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not the seed of man, but the seed of the woman. That's Genesis
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three fifteen also knows the pro Too Evangelium I guess I have allt it pro
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to evangelium. I think is that I had trouble with that one in school.
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I still have trouble with it now. Not that it was used a
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lot, but it was one of those terms we had on a test one
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time. And the genealogy of Christ, recorded by Saint Matthew, no mention
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is made of his descent from Joseph, but only from Mary. Yet Christ
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was commonly thought to be the son of Joseph. Mary was espoused to Saint
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Joseph so that no aation might be made against her by the world, and
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that she might have in him a protector. About Saint Joseph, we have
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the following facts. He was a carpenter, he was a just man.
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Saint Jerome tells us that he was perfect in every virtue, and Saint Thomas
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Aquinas gives us the reason for his holiness, that he was so close to
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the fount of holiness, just as the spring is clearer when we approached its
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source. Francis of Sales, Saint Francissile tells us that Saint Joseph was conspicuous
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for his purity, and therein surpassed all the saints, and even the angels.
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To him was granted the honor which kings and prophets sighed for in vain.
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He might take his Lord into his arms, kiss him, speak with
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him, clothe him, protect him. That's a quote from Saint Bernard,
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or reference to the reigns of Saint Bernard. He was called father by him
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whose father was in heaven. That's from Saint Basil Basl I guess. Many
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saints assert that Saint Joseph was a very high has a very high place in
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heaven, is the spouse of the Blessed Virgin, and that he will be
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called upon by men in the last days of the world and give signs of
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his great power. Saint Joseph is the patron of the Church. His prayers
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for the church have great efficacy at the throne of God. He is also
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the patron of a happy death, dying as he did himself in the arms
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of Jesus and Mary. He has also invoked for temporal wants since his care
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on this earth. He has also invoked for temporal wants since his care on
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this earth was the support for the Holy Family. Saint Thomas Aquinas says that
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Saint Joseph received power from God to help in all necessities, and Saint Teresa
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declared that no prayer of hers to Saint Joseph in temporal or spiritual need was
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everlast left unanswered. The Catholic Church has always honored Saint Joseph in a special
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manner, after our Lady, and above all other saints. So very interestingly,
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the earliest recorded prayer of the Church to a saint is not actually to
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the Blessed Virgin Mary. It's to Saint Joseph. And it may have actually
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been taught to the Apostles by Jesus or by Mary, because it seems to
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have been written when the Apostles were still alive. Very interesting. Zero point
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three. The incarnation of the Son of God is a mystery which we cannot
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understand, but only admire and honor. The conception and incarnation are as little
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understood by us as the flowering of the rod of Aaron in numbers seventeen.
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Shut thy eyes, all reason, says Saint Bernard, for under the veil
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of faith, they all can't see the sheen of this mystery. Just as
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the eye of the body can bear the light of the sun when shaded by
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a cloud. I know that the Son of God became man, but I
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know not how, said Saint John Christostom. Following are illustrations which have been
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used to convey the idea of the union of the Godhead and human nature in
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Christ. The divinity and humanity are united in Christ as body and soul,
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or united in man. That's from the Athanasian creed. If spirit and matter
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so essentially distinct or unite in a man, all, the less matter of
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surprise is that the divinity in humanity, which after all have their points of
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resemblance, are found united in Christ. Speech is a sort of incarnation,
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says say Augustine. At first, the word is conceived as a mere thought,
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something purely spiritual, if that thought is to be conveyed to another's put
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into words. Yet, yet though it appeals to these senses, it is
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nonetheless produced from the soul. So the Word of God has appeared to many
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and ceases not to remain with the Father God has appeared to many and ceases.
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Other illustrations show the actions of the Holy Ghost in Christ's conception. Saint
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Isidore tells us that Christ was formed from Mary, just as Eve was formed
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from Adam. The incarnation resembles in some respects the creation, when everything was
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produced by God's almighty power without the cooperation of man. The mystery of the
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incarnation is commemorated by the ring of the angelus bells, the words that the
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angelists recall in the most lively way the scenes of the Nunciation. The angelus
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is a prayer, you know. I try to say it daily. A
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lot of blessings promised to those who do. It's basically a brief summary of,
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you know, the story of the incarnation. The Angel of the Lord
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declared in the marriage, she concede to the Holy Spirit. Behold the handmaid
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of the Lord. Let it be done to me according to Thy word.
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And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. And in between you
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say hell, Mary's and such at the words of the Credo. In the
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Mass, he took flesh in the womb of the blessed Virgin Mary by the
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Holy ghosts. Just what it used to be said the creed. You know,
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it's been changed a few times since now. Since then, the celebrant
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also kneels. The celebrant always kneels also at the words in the Last Gospel.
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It's true, I don't see it enough these days. When we say
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the Apostles Creed, we should either kneel or bow at that point when referencing
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the incarnation and the blessed Virgin Mary, and also at the words of the
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Last Gospel and the Word was made flesh. On Christmas Day, the Annunciation
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twenty fifth of March, the sacred ministers at High Mass kneel on the altar
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steps and bow their heads at incarnatus est of the Credo Credo. The angels
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also venerate the mystery of the incarnation. I get a little tickle on my
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throat to day if my voice sounds a little funny. I'm trying to sip
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on some tea in between here, all right, Moving on to point number
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four, The incarnation of the Son of God was necessary to give perfect satisfaction
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to the injured majesty of God. God might have chosen some other means for
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redeeming man. He might, by special exercise of his goodness, have been
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content with an imperfect satisfaction, or have remitted the guilt without demanding any satisfaction.
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Of all Saint Augustine on this subject rites, there are some foolish people
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who think God could not have redeemed mankind. Otherwise than by himself taking flesh
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and suffering at the hands of sinners, he might have followed quite another plan,
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as we shall see in treating of the death of Christ. God wished
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to have perfect satisfaction to display his justice as well as his mercy. Perfect
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satisfaction could only be given, could be given only by a god man.
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The greatness of an injury is measured by the dignity of the person who suffers.
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Hence the offense given to God is infinitely great, no finite being.
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Not even the most perfect angel could atone for an offense against God, only
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God him self. So that to use the words of Saint Anselom to redeem
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man, it was necessary that God should become man. As God only he
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could not suffer. As man only he could not redeem. Hence the God
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had assumed a human nature. That's quo from Saint pro Proclus I guess if
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a valuable portrait be damaged beyond recognition, it cannot be restored unless the sitter
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present himself to the artists. Thus God had to come down on earth to
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restore his likeness in man. Anthonausius the God man could satisfy perfectly the injured
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majesty of God by appearing on earth in a state of lowliness. Had he
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appeared in his majesty, men would never have dared crucify him. Like Courtis
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the Athenian king, he secured victory to his own by dying for them.
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The oracle had promised the Athenian victory if their king died by the hands of
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the enemy, and Cortus, disguising his royal dress, marked into the enemy's
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camp and was by them put to death. The prophet had foretold that mankind
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should be saved by the death of its king, and Christ, taking the
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form of a slave, was put to death. The evil spirits fled when
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they saw whom they had killed. If, as Lewis of Grenada says,
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a king would prove his courage in battle, he must put away all symbols
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of rank to proclaim them only when he is victor. And this is what
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our Lord did. He will come again with great power and majesty. Saint
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Thomas says that we cannot affirm with certainty that God would have become man had
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man not sinned. It certainly would not have been beyond his power point number
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five. The second person always remained God, though he became man by the
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incarnation. He lost none of his dignity when we assert that the son of
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a man. When we assert that the Son of God came down on earth,
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we did not mean that he left heaven. So a star may become
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visible to us without leaving the firmament. As Saint Ambrose says, the divinity
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of Christ is not destroyed, but only hidden by his human nature, just
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as the sun is not put out, but veiled only by the clouds.
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And as the thought, because spoken does not cease to be the product of
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the soul, so the word of God does not cease, did not cease
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to be with the father. Saint Augustine. As a word, though spoken
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only for the benefit of one person, may be heard by all bystanders.
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So the divine Word was not limited by the body which he assumed, but
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feels heaven and earth. Moreover, God lost none of his dignity by the
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incarnation. The sunlight, which plays over the filth that is not defiled.
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Still less the Godhead defiled by taking flesh from the pure womb of Mary.
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That Saint Odillo, if a prince put on a slave's dress, and in
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it picked a precious ring from the gutter to grace his finger. There is
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no loss of dignity. So too, the Son of God was not degraded
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by taking on himself the form of a slave and coming down to earth to
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save souls and gain them to himself. When the apostle says that Jesus Christ
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abased himself by taking the form of the servant, it's in a Philamon two
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seven. He does not mean that God lost anything, but only that he
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assumed of nature lower than his own and gave us thereby an example of humility.
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He humbled himself zero point six. And we'll stop with this one,
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for today is by incarnation of the Son of God all the members of the
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human race have acquired a special dignity. The human nature of the Son of
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God is like the yeast which leavens the whole mass. That's Matthew thirteen thirty
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three. Christ is divine, and we are the branches. The angels even
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fall short of us in this respect, for though they are exempt from sickness
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and death, they cannot claim God for their brother. Were they capable of
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envy, they would envy us that honor that's actually why the devil hates us
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so much, you know, That's why the devil and all his demonic former
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angels try so hard to make us sin, to lead us tempt us into
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sin, so that we don't have that honor anymore. As Saint Ambrose says,
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the Almighty took the form of a slave, that the slave might become
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a king. The son of God became the son of man, that the
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children of men might become children of God. Saint anthonusus again, all,
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what a wondrous redemption is there where men? All? What a wondrous redemption
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is that where man is, as it were, put on par with God.
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It's a quote from Saint Hilary. We're gonna get way into that subject
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later. That's that's really a teaching that I think most Protestants don't understand anymore.
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And it kind of comes from from the old Wesley and John Knox's tradition
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of seeing what was the analogy they used to use in the early Methodist Church,
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or I think it was Methodists come be in Presbyterian that grace was the
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grace of God. Covering man was like snow covering a pile of manure.
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Uh. See, the Bible actually says that Christians become part of the body
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of Christ and actually become like God as saints in heaven. The Catholic Church
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still teach us that, the Orthodox Church still teach us that. Maybe the
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Anglicans. I don't know, but that's actually what the Bible says. And
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it's hard to understand. But you know, when you become baptized, you
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become part of the Body of Christ, the mystical body of Christ. When
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you die, if you go to heaven and you're saint, you live forever
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united one, essentially in spirit with God. And the reason the saints pray
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for us is because they take on the mission of God of saving souls.
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It's actually a very well it's mentioned several books in the Bible. It's really
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hard to overlook. But it's also very hard to comprehend with our limited human
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understanding. But if you know, as a Protestant, deny the intercession of
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angels and saints, even though the Bible's full of the intercession of angels,
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and if you have a complete Bible, you also know about saints, you
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have to think of them as being cut off somewhere else, right, not
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sharing essentially in the divine divinity and mission of Christ. Whereas actually the Bible
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says were surrounded by a cloud of witnesses. They're here with us, seeing,
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hearing us, advocating for us. A book for revelation, tell us
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about the prayers of the saints for those on earth. I mean, you
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know, if you actually read the Bible, you understand these things as much
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as we possibly can. Of course, there have been great saints like Saint
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Augustine and others that will you know, really understood and explain this far better
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than I could. And Father Spiago, we'll get into that topic before too
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long. We'll be talking about that. And it really is a fascinating part
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of Catholic teaching that we it's the community of Saints. We are all connected
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and joined in the body of Christ. And you know, even though we
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say it in the Catholic Church, I believe in the community of Saints,
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most of us don't understand it because it is such a complex mystery, you
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know, I think was it. Saint Paul referred to it as a great
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mystery when he was talking about Christ and the Church. It's as much a
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mystery as the Holy Trinity. It's hard for us to understand. And whereas
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you know, some Protestant churches still say the creed, I know, the
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Methodists do. They don't understand that. They also say, I believe in
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the One Holy Catholic Church, and they don't understand that either. They actually
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will put a little asterisk there beside it that says universal, which they actually
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understood. I mean, that's what's so ironic. Yeah, it is the
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universal Church. That is what Catholic means in Latin, meaning it should be
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the only one church in the entire world that everyone belongs to. There is
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no Christian church outside of the Catholic Church because it has no authority. The
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Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ. Every other church has been founded by
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a heretic schismatic on it, based on his own ego. You know,
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just as you know Satan wanted to make himself his own God, they make
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themselves in their own church. You know. It's a little harsh, yeah,
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but it's also true. And as I said Yestersad yesterday, it's an
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act of charity to warn a blind man that he's about to walk off a
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cliff or out into traffic, And it's an act of charity to explain why
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there's only one valid church on earth, and that's the one Holy Catholic Apostolic
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Church founded by Jesus Christ through his apostles, to whom he gave his authority
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and through apostolic succession, the same today as it was two thousand years ago.
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So remember y' all the words of Saint Padre Pio, Pray, hope
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and don't worry, and I will talk to you next time.