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The State of the Union · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 2: In this beautiful day following I don't know the longest
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  Speaker 2: and greatest State of the Union speech ever in the
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  Speaker 2: history of ever was Oh my gosh, did you see it?
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  Speaker 3: I was dreading it.
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  Speaker 4: I admit it.
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  Speaker 3: I was dreading it.
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  Speaker 5: I had just done three hours of the Hugh Hewett
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  Speaker 5: Show yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I drove home up.
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  Speaker 5: The four oh five and I said to my wife,
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  Speaker 5: I gotta listen to the shows speech.
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  Speaker 3: I can't. He promises it's going to be long. Now.
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  Speaker 5: Look among my many skills, I am a California trial lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I talk in frontage.
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  Speaker 5: I like to talk in front of people as a
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  Speaker 5: calumnist for you are a senior columnist of town. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: I like to talk to I get it, I understand.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't like to see other people doing it.
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  Speaker 5: When I was a stand up comic, I would retreat
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  Speaker 5: to the green room and not watch anybody else.
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  Speaker 3: I hate it.
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  Speaker 5: Let me tell you I was spellbound. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: this is this is the best trump. This is both
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  Speaker 5: loose and tight at the same time. No weird tangents
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  Speaker 5: into about how rosi O'Donnell is the anti Christ, although
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  Speaker 5: she may in fact be. No bizarre riffs on golfing
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  Speaker 5: and how good none of that America is great.
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  Speaker 3: America is back.
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  Speaker 6: Look at that dude getting.
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  Speaker 3: The Medal of Honor.
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  Speaker 6: Did you see that guy?
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  Speaker 5: Holy cow here one hundred and sixtieth Special Operations Aviation Regiment. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: these are the guys. Who are the guys, They are
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  Speaker 5: the Delta Force flyers. This dude cruises out from Central casting.
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  Speaker 5: He's still using a walker because homeboy got shot four
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  Speaker 5: times and kept rocking. Of course, he's what's called a
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  Speaker 5: Chief Warrant Officer five. I'm a colonel. I've heard of
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  Speaker 5: them in legend. I won't mess with them. You give
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  Speaker 5: them their coffee and leave them alone, because these are
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  Speaker 5: the dudes with the skills that kills. This dude comes
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  Speaker 5: in under fire carrying, obviously Delta Force guys. He's getting
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  Speaker 5: shot at by machine guns, two machine guns positions.
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  Speaker 3: He maneuvers his Chinook, which is.
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  Speaker 6: A giant helicopter.
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  Speaker 3: It's big.
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  Speaker 7: He maneuvers it while he's bleeding in a position so
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  Speaker 7: with the mini guns on his chopper can turn these
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  Speaker 7: guys into Swiss cheese.
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  Speaker 3: And then he lands.
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  Speaker 5: As he's bleeding out, he turns over to his copie
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  Speaker 5: and goes, hey, he might want to fly a I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna pass out, dude. And this guy, I mean, my gosh,
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  Speaker 5: you look at him and it's like rip that yeah,
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  Speaker 5: uniform open.
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  Speaker 3: There's a giant s there, folks. Those are American soldiers.
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  Speaker 5: That dude is the epitome and that coastguardsman who rescued
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  Speaker 5: all those kids. Legion of Honor, that's a big metal, folks. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: not a lot of E fives get a legion of
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, a legion of merit, not a legion of honor.
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  Speaker 5: Not a lot of E fives get it. That guy
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  Speaker 5: deserved it, of course. A medal of Honor from the
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  Speaker 5: Navy captain in the secret fight against the Megs over
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  Speaker 5: Korea four to zero.
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  Speaker 3: US Navy, good lord.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just glad that the other guy was
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  Speaker 5: army because the Navy guys would be unbearable today after
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  Speaker 5: that giant, giant, hundred year stud I mean, my gosh,
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  Speaker 5: And it's hit after hit with Trump and he's hidden
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  Speaker 5: high notes and he's again and again and the best
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  Speaker 5: part I'm not gonna repeat. I'm gonna play a lot
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  Speaker 5: of ways said because if you cared, you probably watched.
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  Speaker 3: He was great. I'm gonna talk.
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  Speaker 5: A lot about what the Democrats did, like walking into
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  Speaker 5: a kill zone. What Trump does right, and it's beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: He channels Colon Pow. Now I'm now, I'm getting back
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  Speaker 5: into my United States Army Infantry colonel mode. He channels
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  Speaker 5: Colon Powell during it, right before Desert Storm. You remember that,
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  Speaker 5: I do because I was there in Desert Storm. And
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  Speaker 5: he says, Saddam's Army. First, we're gonna cut it off,
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  Speaker 5: then we're gonna kill it. He tells how you're like
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  Speaker 5: brass right if you tell the enemy here's what I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna do to you, and you can't do a thing
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  Speaker 5: about it. And Trump's basically looking at the Democrats going,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna offer a series of things every normal human
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  Speaker 5: American agrees with, and the Republicans are gonna st up
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  Speaker 5: and clap, and you idiots are gonna sit there like this,
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  Speaker 5: looking like a second tier rapper, all angry and bitter,
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  Speaker 5: and you're gonna look like fools.
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  Speaker 3: And this will be the the the It will launch
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  Speaker 3: a thousand midterm ads.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, US hockey team.
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  Speaker 5: Whooo, little tumbleweet going by, Hey, American heroes. Nothing, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: little garrel killed by the hurt by illegal aliens.
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  Speaker 3: But she's getting better.
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  Speaker 5: Nothing woman murdered by scumbag criminal Nada. And he tells
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  Speaker 5: them what they're gonna do, what he's gonna do, and
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  Speaker 5: then he does it to him. It's beautiful. They How
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  Speaker 5: did the Democrats react? Well, they had their own little event, right,
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  Speaker 5: they had their uh, the peoples, the peoples, state of
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  Speaker 5: the Union. So let's join Robbie Rhodesteamer, who was MCing
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  Speaker 5: dressed as a giraffe. No, no, you you actually heard
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  Speaker 5: me correctly. He was dressed as a giraffe. If you're
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  Speaker 5: not watching on the Salem News Channel, cut number eleven.
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  Speaker 8: I'm fresh out of an ice prison in Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 6: I've been arrested three times by Ice.
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  Speaker 8: Over absurdity, over us being ourselves, over me sing it
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  Speaker 8: songs like hey, mister tangerine man, get rid of brown people.
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  Speaker 4: For me.
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  Speaker 8: I'm marrying white. There ain't no place I'm going to.
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  Speaker 8: And then all of a sudden, he's not ready for
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  Speaker 8: primetime player. Ice agents with two weeks of training come
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  Speaker 8: after me. I got arrested at Portland.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, again, I want to emphasize what I said before
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  Speaker 5: because it's important.
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  Speaker 3: He was dressed as a giraffe. Now it gets worse.
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  Speaker 5: A congress being from Oregon steps up surrounded by people
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  Speaker 5: dressed as frogs.
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  Speaker 3: Maxine Dexter, take it away, cut twelve.
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  Speaker 9: I have a mother, I am a physician, and I
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  Speaker 9: have a flag, and I am the proud representative for
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  Speaker 9: Oregon's third congressional district. Yes, thank you, thank you, And
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  Speaker 9: tonight I defy Trump and his authoritarian project by standing
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  Speaker 9: in joyful, radical, peaceful resistance with the Portland Frog Brigade.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, now, if you didn't see her, again,
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  Speaker 5: I want to emphasize this because I feel it's important.
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  Speaker 5: She was surrounded by people dressed like frogs. And even worse,
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  Speaker 5: And if you can't see her, you heard her. She
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  Speaker 5: gives off that vibe, right, you know how you always
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  Speaker 5: had that one friend whose mom never had candy at
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  Speaker 5: the house. Right, but somehow she'd have like instead of chocolate,
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  Speaker 5: she'd have like chickory or something. And she wouldn't let
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  Speaker 5: your friend play army with toy guns. So you come
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  Speaker 5: to your house to play army with guns because little
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  Speaker 5: kids who grew up to be men play with guns
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  Speaker 5: toy guns.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and guess guess which kid I was?
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  Speaker 5: The last thing is we gotta I gotta go out
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  Speaker 5: on Joy read quote unquote singing thirteen.
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  Speaker 10: Us concept in constant.
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  Speaker 5: All right, please kill that Adam. I want some bumper
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  Speaker 5: music to purge my soul. Let's get you young MC.
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  Speaker 3: Bust the move.
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  Speaker 5: I need something, something to get that out of my head.
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  Speaker 5: Joy Reid, Ah, this is gonna be great. I'm kirch
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  Speaker 5: Lickter guests hosting for you. You stick around, We got
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  Speaker 5: a lot more.
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  Speaker 3: Fun to come.
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  Speaker 6: Just bust the move, Just bust the move.
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  Speaker 5: That's young MC coming along to uh purge the nightmare?
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  Speaker 5: That was Joy read singing little air quotes. If you're
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  Speaker 5: watching on the Salem News Channel at a Democrat counter rally, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Joined by Noah Rothman.
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  Speaker 5: Noah, you had a chance to see how the Democrats
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  Speaker 5: reacted with their singing and their frog and giraffe related
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  Speaker 5: antics from the last segment, how do you assess the
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  Speaker 5: sanity of these people?
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  Speaker 11: Well, what's really great about all this, Kurt, is that
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  Speaker 11: this was all part of a very concerted, pre planned
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  Speaker 11: effort to ensure that Democrats wouldn't seem anywhere near as
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  Speaker 11: crazy as they seemed last year.
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  Speaker 6: This was the plan, it was supposed to be.
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  Speaker 11: This was leadership wanted to make sure that its members
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  Speaker 11: that it could control were not in the chamber making
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  Speaker 11: a scene.
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  Speaker 12: That's not everybody.
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  Speaker 11: Al Green, Elano, Omar Rashida Talay can't control those people.
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  Speaker 11: They were going to make a spectacle of themselves no
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  Speaker 11: matter what. But the rest of the members, who are
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  Speaker 11: very excitable, want to get a lot of attention for themselves.
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  Speaker 11: They put on those two events, one being the People's
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  Speaker 11: State of the Union, which they got joy Read to
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  Speaker 11: host a former MSNBC host who has fired for low ratings,
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  Speaker 11: who finds racism in her breakfast cereal, who's a conspiracist
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  Speaker 11: and a lunatic frankly, and they decided this is going
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  Speaker 11: to be the face of the party that we're going
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  Speaker 11: to show to people. And then the other one was
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  Speaker 11: sort of this unsanctioned event that you played with the
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  Speaker 11: costumed maniacs. That was at the National Press Club where
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  Speaker 11: it was I think it was the State of the
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  Speaker 11: Swamp and there were a few members there. But that
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  Speaker 11: was one that most people, most of the Democratic Parties
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  Speaker 11: were shied away from because that was just going a
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  Speaker 11: little too far.
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  Speaker 6: But not all, not all.
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  Speaker 11: The Democratic Party is so disunited and so fractious and
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  Speaker 11: so interested, so invested in making spectacles of themselves that
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  Speaker 11: they decided that they were going to put on all
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  Speaker 11: these other shows in order to demonstrate that they are
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  Speaker 11: a competent and capable governing alternative to the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 11: And they ended up just looking more crazy than they
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  Speaker 11: look last year.
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  Speaker 5: Oh laid plans of men dressed as giraffes and mice.
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  Speaker 4: Uh I I.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even sure what to say about it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, what's the thought process? All right, Dave, I
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  Speaker 5: need you in a draft content? Uh uh costume? All right, Madge,
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  Speaker 5: I want you to get a bunch of anti fuguyes
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  Speaker 5: dressed as frogs and the joy can you uh?
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  Speaker 3: Can you rock a little for us? Thank you?
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  Speaker 5: It was nuts and then you look at Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 5: and I I did not know which Trump we were
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  Speaker 5: gonna get. For all I knew, he could have walked in,
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  Speaker 5: grabbed his groin and yelled, I got your State of
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  Speaker 5: the Union right here.
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  Speaker 3: Instead, we got the very best Trump.
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  Speaker 12: We did.
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  Speaker 11: He was far more restrained. There was a lot of
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  Speaker 11: anticipation that he would have the same the reaction, for example,
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  Speaker 11: to the tariffs of ruling that he displayed an immediate
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  Speaker 11: wake of it, which was very perturbed and very energetic
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  Speaker 11: and not as actually deferential to decorum or tradition or
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  Speaker 11: what have you. That was not the same Trump that
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  Speaker 11: showed up there. And you know, I'm a conservative. I
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  Speaker 11: like tradition for tradition's sake. I don't necessarily love the
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  Speaker 11: descent of the State of the Union into spectacle.
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  Speaker 12: But I really did like this performance.
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  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 11: The knock on the State of the Union is that
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  Speaker 11: it's monarchical, that it's very unrepublican that the president gets
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  Speaker 11: up there and Congress is deferential to this guy, even
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  Speaker 11: though the first branch of government, and it's sort of
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  Speaker 11: something that the founders would grouse set today. But what
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  Speaker 11: Trump did during that speech was really hand the spotlight
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  Speaker 11: over to a lot of very deserving figures American heroes.
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  Speaker 11: You went through the list, and that muted for me
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  Speaker 11: the monarchical spectacle of it all. We were celebrating the nation,
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  Speaker 11: we were celebrating some really deserving people. If the speech
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  Speaker 11: is going to be full of cloying applause lines, and
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  Speaker 11: it always is, the applause should be devoted to the
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  Speaker 11: country and the people who serve it and deserve those
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  Speaker 11: kind of accolades. And I really appreciated that aspect of
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  Speaker 11: this speech.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I thought it was interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, he started off talking about, you know, this
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  Speaker 5: is our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be great. People are talking, it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be amazing.
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  Speaker 13: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: And of course nobody's more of a showman than Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 5: And then he proceeded to kind of celebrate America, like
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  Speaker 5: you said, with this, this list of heroes, normal people
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  Speaker 5: of military folks, work.
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  Speaker 11: Intims, victims of the horrible tragedies and pet tragedies that
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  Speaker 11: were preventable because they were part of they were as
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  Speaker 11: a result of maladministration, often by the opposition party.
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  Speaker 12: Was very effective.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and he did, but but he was
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  Speaker 5: so positive, and I think that's what we're going to
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  Speaker 5: see for the next uh uh, you know, until the midterms.
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  Speaker 3: I think the mid timbers kicked off yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just worrying, wondering how do the Democrats handle this,
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  Speaker 5: because you know, so much of their base is in
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  Speaker 5: a place isn't a place where you know, how can
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  Speaker 5: we celebrate this, uh a country building on slavery and
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  Speaker 5: genocide that situated on stolen land. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 5: on July fourth, you know how many huff PO articles
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  Speaker 5: are going to come out about how Trump failed to
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  Speaker 5: do a land acknowledgment.
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  Speaker 11: So this could go one of two ways for Democrats.
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  Speaker 11: I really feel like the party was in that very
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  Speaker 11: same self destructive, self hating place in twenty nineteen. Democratic
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  Speaker 11: Party had gone absolutely nuts in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 11: This is the era of the Green New Deal, free
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  Speaker 11: college for everybody. This was the racial reckoning of twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 11: And in twenty nineteen, the Democratic Party fielded a ton
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  Speaker 11: of presidential candidates, the majority of whom competed with one
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  Speaker 11: another to strike out for the most radical position they
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  Speaker 11: possibly could. Even Joe Biden got caught up in that
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  Speaker 11: to a certain extent, but he mostly declined to play
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  Speaker 11: the game and he won as a result of that. Now,
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  Speaker 11: the question I have is whether he won as a
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  Speaker 11: result of that because he was previously the vice president,
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  Speaker 11: because he had institutional clout behind him, name recognition, and
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  Speaker 11: could muster the organization that he had already developed over
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  Speaker 11: the course of twenty years to win South Carolina and
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  Speaker 11: come back in that primary race. Or was it a
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  Speaker 11: result of the Democratic Party responding to incentives political incentives
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  Speaker 11: that inclined them towards more moderation than what was on
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  Speaker 11: offer from Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren or Eric Swalwell.
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  Speaker 9: What have you.
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  Speaker 11: I don't know the answer to that question, and I
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  Speaker 11: suspect that it's more likely that Joe Biden's the fact
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  Speaker 11: that Joe Biden was president vice president at one point
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  Speaker 11: is more attributable to his victory than his so called
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  Speaker 11: moderation at the time, which would lead me to conclude
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  Speaker 11: that the Democratic Party is going to go much more
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  Speaker 11: radical this time around, because there is no quasi incumbent
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  Speaker 11: in the race. There is nobody who's a poll a
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  Speaker 11: political poll around which the party is in orbit. It's
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  Speaker 11: a very wide open race, and I think the party
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  Speaker 11: will succumb to its instincts to be as radical as
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  Speaker 11: their IDs want them to be.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think you're right, because there is no incentive
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  Speaker 5: to be normal and not crazy. Rokana flirted with it,
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  Speaker 5: saw it wasn't going anywhere, you know, jumped in the
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Kuk lane, which is pretty much which
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  Speaker 5: is pretty much three of the four lanes, two of
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  Speaker 5: which are occupied by JB.
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  Speaker 3: Pritzker.
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  Speaker 5: There's no institutional or other incentive not to be crazy.
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  Speaker 5: The crazier you are, the more attention you get. And
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  Speaker 5: even if they lose, they still maintain at least some
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  Speaker 5: level of attention as the true believer. Is there any
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  Speaker 5: room for a moderate? Are there any potential moderates out there?
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  Speaker 5: I guess maybe Josh Shapiro.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, I think probably Shapiro would occupy whatever that
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  Speaker 11: lane is. And lanes as a theory of primary politics
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  Speaker 11: are problematic and fraught, but they're a good visual, you know,
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  Speaker 11: a good metaphor for how these things unfold.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: I think he's as close as you're going to get.
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  Speaker 12: And that's the other thing, is that the Kuk lane
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  Speaker 12: is going to be quite crowded.
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  Speaker 11: No, there will be a lot of competition for that
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  Speaker 11: space and not a lot for the moderate space, which
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  Speaker 11: does leave some openings for enterprising moderates.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I, frankly, I don't think.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think this Democrat Party can ever nominate someone
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  Speaker 5: who's Jewish and won't apologize for it.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't see it.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a broken party and I wish it
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  Speaker 5: all the pain that can suffer. My name's Kurt Schlicker.
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  Speaker 5: That was Noah Rothman. This is the Hugh Hewitt Show.
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  Speaker 3: Stick Around.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, love truly is all around. This is Kurt Schlicker,
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  Speaker 5: guest noosing for the Great Hue You. And of course
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  Speaker 5: that's Whoskerdo covering Sonny Curtis's Love is all around them
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  Speaker 5: Mary Tyler Moore theme. I couldn't think of a better
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  Speaker 5: song to introduce my friend Carrie Pickett from the Wash
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  Speaker 5: to Times, where she is the White House reporter, Kerrie.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to you Hewitt Show. My love is all around.
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  Speaker 14: It's great to be with you, Kurt, especially after last night.
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  Speaker 14: My goodness, there was lots of love going around there
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  Speaker 14: at the Capitol.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, of all the possible Trumps. I think
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: that was the best possible Trump.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: How about you?
• 19:24
  Speaker 14: I think it was indeed. I mean, look, Trump went
• 19:27
  Speaker 14: in there and you had such an interesting crowd there
• 19:32
  Speaker 14: because it was a bunch of empty seats where you
• 19:37
  Speaker 14: had some Democrats who decided that they were not going
• 19:42
  Speaker 14: They're going to have their own little boycott out on
• 19:44
  Speaker 14: the mall. But at the same time you decided, or
• 19:48
  Speaker 14: rather they decided that there was going to be a
• 19:50
  Speaker 14: few of them who are going to heckle. Uh Trump,
• 19:53
  Speaker 14: the and the Rashida to leave and Omar he had
• 19:56
  Speaker 14: elan Omar and the Algories of the world who are
• 19:59
  Speaker 14: going to do their little heckling as well.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: But then they're going to do the usual.
• 20:04
  Speaker 14: And this is true for both parties, whether they're in
• 20:07
  Speaker 14: power or not, but they're going to be It's it's
• 20:10
  Speaker 14: a whole idea and this is this is how this
• 20:12
  Speaker 14: is what the state of other unions are usually about.
• 20:14
  Speaker 14: Who's going to stand up, who's going to sit down?
• 20:16
  Speaker 14: You know, can the president in power and get the
• 20:19
  Speaker 14: other party to stand up for anything?
• 20:23
  Speaker 15: And that's always sort of the game that everybody plays.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: And what does it mean exactly?
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: So?
• 20:29
  Speaker 14: Uh, you know, what was interesting here was that the
• 20:32
  Speaker 14: times that the Democrats did stand up, it was for
• 20:35
  Speaker 14: the hockey team. Uh, you had them stand up interestingly
• 20:39
  Speaker 14: enough for the uh for the insider Trading stock Act,
• 20:44
  Speaker 14: you know, and.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Then well I was doing one of those little tug
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: on the collar things. Yeah, exactly.
• 20:54
  Speaker 14: It was a little trap as far as I was concerned,
• 20:57
  Speaker 14: because at one point Will the Democrats were standing up like, yeah,
• 21:00
  Speaker 14: we support that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Then all of a.
• 21:02
  Speaker 14: Sudden he takes a shot at Nancy Pelosi and they're like,
• 21:04
  Speaker 14: why are we still standing up?
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: You know, he was the ring that he just owned that. Look.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: I stood in front of jury's for thirty years. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: stood in front of troops. I was a stand up count.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: You want to own that audience, and I think he did.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: How does your White House correspondent, how does the White
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: House feel trump did?
• 21:23
  Speaker 14: I think the White House feels very confident about what
• 21:26
  Speaker 14: he did, because look, Donald Trump went in there to
• 21:30
  Speaker 14: deliver the message that yes, the Union is strong, Okay,
• 21:37
  Speaker 14: that everything that Biden and the Democrats gave the United
• 21:42
  Speaker 14: States for the previous four years before Trump, or rather yeah,
• 21:47
  Speaker 14: before Trump came in, that he has you know, cleaned
• 21:52
  Speaker 14: up at least a good majority of it, especially when
• 21:56
  Speaker 14: it came to the issue of illegal immigration, especially when
• 21:59
  Speaker 14: it came to rhyme, especially when it came to inflation.
• 22:03
  Speaker 14: You're talking about seventy thousand new construction jobs, talking about
• 22:08
  Speaker 14: you know, trillions of dollars of investments, gas prices being down,
• 22:15
  Speaker 14: you know, oil drilling definitely happening all over the place
• 22:19
  Speaker 14: now because those permits are finally, you know, being granted.
• 22:23
  Speaker 14: You know, he went into foreign affairs where he's talking about, hey,
• 22:27
  Speaker 14: we finally got Maduro out of there, finally make sure
• 22:32
  Speaker 14: that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons capabilities and they cannot
• 22:37
  Speaker 14: ever have them ever again. So this is just even
• 22:42
  Speaker 14: just a portion of what he talked about. But then specifically,
• 22:47
  Speaker 14: he wants to make sure that people understand why these
• 22:50
  Speaker 14: deportations are happening, and that it's not some sort of
• 22:53
  Speaker 14: one sided story that's coming out there. He made sure
• 22:56
  Speaker 14: that there was a sympathetic part to the story. He
• 23:00
  Speaker 14: had the victims and the families of the victims who
• 23:04
  Speaker 14: had been affected by the illegal aliens who came in,
• 23:08
  Speaker 14: particularly the the violent ones. So you had the mother
• 23:13
  Speaker 14: of the North Carolina woman who was who was killed
• 23:18
  Speaker 14: on the North Carolina on the Charlotte Lake Train. Her
• 23:22
  Speaker 14: mother was there and it was just so heartbreaking. She
• 23:26
  Speaker 14: was one of the guests. You had also the National
• 23:30
  Speaker 14: guardsman who was shot in the head. He ended up
• 23:35
  Speaker 14: over here in a d c h. He ended up
• 23:38
  Speaker 14: getting a purple heart. And the other National guardsman who
• 23:42
  Speaker 14: was a woman, she was killed and she ended up
• 23:46
  Speaker 14: her family ended up getting a purple heart for her posthumously,
• 23:52
  Speaker 14: So that was very touching as well. Then there was
• 23:54
  Speaker 14: the family who was there of a of a young
• 23:58
  Speaker 14: girl who who is hardly hurt in an accident that
• 24:03
  Speaker 14: was caused by legal immigrants.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Well, Kerry Pikett of me off Washington Times, that's all
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: the time we have, unfortunately, but thanks for your insights.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: You're the White House correspondent at the Washington Times. Say
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: you've got your finger on the pulse. I'm Kurt Schlickter,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: guest hosting for the Great Hugh Hewitt. So of course
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: producer Dwayne's got his finger on the dump button unless
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: I go off stick around and find out that happens.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Plus kamlinghen Hanna, I'm at risk send by US.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Cuts and my guest host Kurt Schlickter Here on the
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Hue Hewitt Show. I am back with Will Chamberlain. He's
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: senior counsel at the Article three project, and of course
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: he and I text all the time offline to talk
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: about how stupid everything is.
• 24:54
  Speaker 16: That.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: Actually, I wish I could bill as a lawyer for
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: that because I'd be very, very rich. Will so much
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: to talk about on the legal tip. What do you
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: think of Trump's a very gentle admonition of the Supreme
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Court yesterday at.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: The State of the Union.
• 25:12
  Speaker 17: Yeah, he was being nice. That was a terrible opinion.
• 25:16
  Speaker 17: Kavanaugh had the best of it, and I think the
• 25:20
  Speaker 17: core reason why was that. I mean, I'm sorry. There's
• 25:24
  Speaker 17: a lot of ways to regulate importation, but the most
• 25:26
  Speaker 17: common is via tariffs, and Congress pass statute letting the
• 25:29
  Speaker 17: president regulate importation, and it just it just makes sense.
• 25:33
  Speaker 17: I think in the modern world, tariffs are so bound
• 25:36
  Speaker 17: up in our negotiations with foreign countries. There's a reason,
• 25:41
  Speaker 17: you know, the president is the one that negotiates treaties.
• 25:43
  Speaker 17: The president is the one that negotiates all our foreign
• 25:45
  Speaker 17: arrangements through the Secretary of State, because you can't you
• 25:48
  Speaker 17: can't negotiate by committee you have, they negotiate as a
• 25:51
  Speaker 17: unified entity. So tariffs is one of those things that's like,
• 25:55
  Speaker 17: because it's subject to this foreign negotiation, it's not really
• 25:58
  Speaker 17: something that should just be randomly set by Congress Willie
• 26:01
  Speaker 17: Elliot really should be done by the president, which is
• 26:03
  Speaker 17: why the terror power has been granted to the president
• 26:05
  Speaker 17: in all sorts of other contexts. So the idea that
• 26:09
  Speaker 17: it's just like, oh, but this particular statue wasn't granting
• 26:11
  Speaker 17: the terror power, I'm sorry, I just don't agree.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's odd that he can turn off
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: the spigott completely, but he can't really lower the volume,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: so you're full blast or nothing. I don't know if
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: that makes sense. I don't know if it sounds like
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Congress's intent. But you know, courts get things wrong all
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: the time, as we've seen recently.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: But things are getting better.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: We've had three Circuit Court just judges to take senior
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: status in the last couple of weeks. Article three project
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: does a lot with picking judges. Are we going to
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: get what kind of judge? Are we looking for the
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: fed society kind of judge? Or are we looking for
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: judges who know what time it is?
• 26:58
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
• 26:58
  Speaker 17: We're looking for judges, wh we know what time it is.
• 27:00
  Speaker 17: I mean, it's FEDSOC. Isn't a downside? I mean on
• 27:01
  Speaker 17: basically every conservative in a big law school is going
• 27:05
  Speaker 17: to be involved in FEDSOC in one way or another.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: It really doesn't.
• 27:08
  Speaker 12: So yeah, exactly.
• 27:10
  Speaker 17: So I mean there's there's I guess there's like two
• 27:13
  Speaker 17: ways to understand the Federalist Society. One is this kind
• 27:16
  Speaker 17: of like event organization, and you know, wherever you are,
• 27:20
  Speaker 17: they put on debates and events. And interestingly, like the
• 27:23
  Speaker 17: liberal liberals aren't interested in putting on debates in any way,
• 27:26
  Speaker 17: shape or form, so the conservatives kind of mop up
• 27:28
  Speaker 17: in that respect. One of the reasons so many could
• 27:30
  Speaker 17: people go, even liberals go to Federal Society events on
• 27:33
  Speaker 17: law school campuses.
• 27:35
  Speaker 12: Uh. And then there's like the conference.
• 27:37
  Speaker 17: But you know, the FEDSOC has always been very loath
• 27:40
  Speaker 17: to really put out what it thinks about the law
• 27:43
  Speaker 17: in any particular incidence other than sort of vague.
• 27:45
  Speaker 12: Broad commitments to the principles of America.
• 27:50
  Speaker 17: So you know this, But there is sort of a
• 27:53
  Speaker 17: core FEDSOC that I guess maybe is best exemplified by
• 27:57
  Speaker 17: somebody like Ed Wheelan, you know, the sort of old
• 27:59
  Speaker 17: school can sort of legal movement types.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Good, that's not what we're looking for. Oh, so useless,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: so completely useless. But you know, I was a litigator.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: My job's to win.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: It's not to go and say, well, we lost, but beautifully.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: And speaking of winning, it looks like, oh, commentators are
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: saying that Justice Alito may get the to write the
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Calais decision that's on the Voting Rights Act.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: What do you think of that?
• 28:29
  Speaker 17: Well, that might end the Voting Rights Act entirely. That
• 28:32
  Speaker 17: would make yeah sense, And that would be that would
• 28:34
  Speaker 17: be you know, in the context of some of the
• 28:36
  Speaker 17: other things that might come out of the Supreme Court,
• 28:38
  Speaker 17: Like I suspect we may not win birthright citizenship, even
• 28:40
  Speaker 17: though I think we should. I agree it would be
• 28:43
  Speaker 17: very good to see. So it would be good to
• 28:46
  Speaker 17: see the Voting Rights Act gut it. And I mean
• 28:47
  Speaker 17: that actually is the best case that that Act is racist,
• 28:50
  Speaker 17: right that actually, I just on its face it's engaged
• 28:52
  Speaker 17: in you know, overt racial discrimination and and sort of
• 28:57
  Speaker 17: basically all the everything around it is just something that
• 29:00
  Speaker 17: probably shouldn't be allowed. That's not constitutional in the Fourteenth Amendment,
• 29:04
  Speaker 17: so in the fifth Amendment too. So yeah, I think
• 29:09
  Speaker 17: I'm glad to see Alito's writing that opinion, and I
• 29:11
  Speaker 17: think that's hope. You know, I think I think we're
• 29:13
  Speaker 17: gonna win.
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: On that one.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: If we do, that's ten to fifteen seats. Take that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Gavin Newsome enjoy.
• 29:21
  Speaker 12: Yeah, right, Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 17: The Democrats started bragging, and I mean, gosh, how silly
• 29:25
  Speaker 17: were those Indiana Republicans who were.
• 29:27
  Speaker 12: Like, oh, we got to play fair.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have that in Virginia too.
• 29:32
  Speaker 17: Yeah, Virginia is like, why don't we just like turn
• 29:35
  Speaker 17: this entire you know, create a bunch of tentacles in
• 29:38
  Speaker 17: Virginia reaching into Arlington, like so that like Arlington could
• 29:42
  Speaker 17: be split among five congressional districts or something like that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: Something absolutely absurd.
• 29:47
  Speaker 17: You know, anybody who knows Virginia knows it's just like, yeah, okay,
• 29:50
  Speaker 17: really what we should be doing is a retrocession where
• 29:53
  Speaker 17: we put Arlington back in the district of Columbia and
• 29:57
  Speaker 17: you know, as it always should have been. It never
• 29:59
  Speaker 17: you know, the Congress ever had the authority to seed
• 30:02
  Speaker 17: the seed Arlington to Virginia. That needs to be part
• 30:05
  Speaker 17: of the federal district. It's in the Constitution.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Hey, they're they're liberal. They should love Washington, d C.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: But also banging around Washington, d C. As the rumor
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: of Justice Alito perhaps retiring in this summer, what do
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: you think of that and who might replace him?
• 30:28
  Speaker 17: I mean, I think that there's a good chance that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 17: I mean, I'm not like and again I'm not like
• 30:33
  Speaker 17: trying to push him anyway here. Like Justice Alito as.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: A hero's amazing.
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: I hope he serves, you know, he's a great justice.
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: I think that that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 17: I think my guess is, if you're just asking me, like,
• 30:44
  Speaker 17: what does he think? I think he doesn't want what
• 30:45
  Speaker 17: happened to Ruth Bader Ginsburg to happen to him. I
• 30:48
  Speaker 17: think that's the sort of you know, they don't He
• 30:51
  Speaker 17: wants that his seat to be held by a rock
• 30:53
  Speaker 17: rib conservative as long as possible, and to protect his
• 30:56
  Speaker 17: own legacy. My suspicion is that he will. He will
• 30:58
  Speaker 17: probably retire, And I mean, there's a lot of really
• 31:02
  Speaker 17: good people to pick from. I think, you know, mul
• 31:05
  Speaker 17: the Bar is very very good in Kentucky. My personal
• 31:07
  Speaker 17: favorite is probably James Hoe out of the Fifth Circuit
• 31:09
  Speaker 17: and Tech.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: He's a super.
• 31:12
  Speaker 17: He's a rock star and uh, you know, whip smart,
• 31:16
  Speaker 17: very based. That's exactly the kind of person we want
• 31:18
  Speaker 17: on Supreme Court.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: You don't think it's going to be another kind of,
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: for lack of a better word, a political justice. Do
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: you think it's somebody who's going to be reliable.
• 31:32
  Speaker 17: That's Leonard Leo's on the outs with the president, so
• 31:36
  Speaker 17: it's sort of like.
• 31:38
  Speaker 12: Movement pick. Yeah. No, I think my boss is you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 12: probably going to have a little more sway.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: Oh. I think your boss, Mike Davis is going to
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: have a lot of sway. Tell him, Kirk Schlickter say
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: himself out of contention. I don't want to clutter Okay,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: I don't want to clutter up the decision making. That's
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: Will Chamberlain of the Article three Project. Those guys do
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: great work. You should check it out and support them
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: because they're the ones fighting for our courts.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I'm Kurt Schlickter. This is the Hugh Hewitt Show.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Editors from the Great State of Pennsylvania. Saiator David McCormick,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: and hey, you know, we're both airborn. There see, how
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: are you?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I'm doing great?
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: We're both their born, but you're born You saw this
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: chief Slover guy yesterday, Holly cow Don'd you give you
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: a giant inferiority complex?
• 32:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: He was impressive and the one hundred year old Medal
• 32:34
  Speaker 16: of Honor recipient. I was listening he said he flew
• 32:37
  Speaker 16: his missions in nineteen fifty two. I mean, what a hero,
• 32:43
  Speaker 16: two hundred shots on his plane. I mean, you have
• 32:45
  Speaker 16: two great Americans right there.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Well, how about that? How about that young petty officer.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Now, you and I have been have had the honor
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: of leading young Americans, and sometimes I don't think Americans
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: fully appreciate just how great our troops are.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 33:01
  Speaker 16: And you know the two years ago, three years ago,
• 33:05
  Speaker 16: I think we would have both said our militaries on
• 33:07
  Speaker 16: the verge of collapse. We couldn't get the recruiting numbers.
• 33:10
  Speaker 16: People didn't want to serve. The military. I think had
• 33:14
  Speaker 16: gone down a path where it was woke and had
• 33:16
  Speaker 16: a political agenda. And a year into President Trump's term,
• 33:21
  Speaker 16: we now have the recruiting blowing out the recruiting numbers.
• 33:24
  Speaker 16: More great young Americans want to serve than we have
• 33:26
  Speaker 16: opportunities for. It's the best of America. And I think
• 33:30
  Speaker 16: you and I probably share this of all the things
• 33:31
  Speaker 16: we've done in our lives, probably other than getting marrying
• 33:34
  Speaker 16: our wives and having kids. That's the greatest honor that
• 33:38
  Speaker 16: I ever had, and it's the thing I cherished most
• 33:40
  Speaker 16: in my career.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Well, it's you know. I got to tell you.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: The pride meter was Pagan read yesterday watching those great
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Americans who are still serving now. Of course, I want
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: to ask you about the state of the Union, but
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: everybody here on the Hue Hewitt Show is curious. Tell
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: us about your relationship with your I'm Acrat, a fellow
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: senator from the Keystone State.
• 34:05
  Speaker 16: Well, we walked into the we walked into the House
• 34:08
  Speaker 16: chamber together last night. He had a suit on, so
• 34:10
  Speaker 16: I was. I told him that I've got the title
• 34:14
  Speaker 16: that my six daughters would never have dreamed possible, the
• 34:16
  Speaker 16: best dress senator from Pennsylvania.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: He laughed, He's listen. He campaigned against me.
• 34:24
  Speaker 16: I never really had spoken to him until after I
• 34:27
  Speaker 16: won the election. But we sat down and he said, listen,
• 34:30
  Speaker 16: I've had a near death experience.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I'm just here.
• 34:34
  Speaker 16: I don't have any patients for the nonsense. I want
• 34:38
  Speaker 16: to do good things for Pennsylvania. You want to do
• 34:40
  Speaker 16: good things for Pennsylvania, and you know, we we have
• 34:43
  Speaker 16: lots of disagreements, but let's find ways to work together.
• 34:46
  Speaker 16: And sure enough we have done just that. He's been
• 34:50
  Speaker 16: a great partner. He speaks his mind, he speaks with integrity.
• 34:54
  Speaker 16: We both are so committed to the people of Pennsylvania.
• 34:57
  Speaker 16: Pennsylvania chose both of us, and we're finding great ways
• 35:01
  Speaker 16: to work together. Whether it's on fentanyl, where we were
• 35:04
  Speaker 16: introduced to joint bill for a joint Task Force and
• 35:07
  Speaker 16: stopping fentanyl, whether it's in keeping the government open, whether
• 35:11
  Speaker 16: it's on fighting against anti Semitism.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Whether it's on helping mushroom farmers in Pennsylvania.
• 35:17
  Speaker 16: We are lockstep and it's been a great partnership. It's
• 35:21
  Speaker 16: the best surprise I've had since coming to the Senate.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Well tell you, you know, I'll tell you of course,
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: the Schlichter family on both sides is straight out of Pennsylvania.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: And you guys are both Selena Zito approved. So you're
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: okay with me. Let's move on to a state of
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: the Union.
• 35:36
  Speaker 16: What'd you think, Listen, I was sitting there just thinking
• 35:41
  Speaker 16: to myself, what a difference a year makes.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Oh my god. I campaigned with the President across Pennsylvania.
• 35:49
  Speaker 16: We campaigned together fifteen times at rallies in Pennsylvania in
• 35:53
  Speaker 16: twenty and twenty four, and I heard what he said.
• 35:56
  Speaker 16: He promised that he was going to stop the flow
• 36:00
  Speaker 16: legal immigrants across the border, stop the flow of fentanyl,
• 36:02
  Speaker 16: which killed four thousand Pennsylvanians last year, that he was
• 36:05
  Speaker 16: going to embrace energy dominance, put us back on top
• 36:09
  Speaker 16: is the energy power in the world. He said he
• 36:11
  Speaker 16: was going to help working families by bringing great jobs
• 36:16
  Speaker 16: and reducing inflation and getting wages up.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: All those things have happened. We have made enormous progress.
• 36:24
  Speaker 16: It's not to say people in Pennsylvania are so worried
• 36:26
  Speaker 16: about housing prices or health care.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: They are.
• 36:28
  Speaker 16: There's still more things to be done, but it's hard
• 36:30
  Speaker 16: to imagine a more consequential year for any president.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: And the thing I love most is he's doing exactly
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: what he said. He's going to just go down the list,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: here's what he said.
• 36:40
  Speaker 16: I think part of the reason people are so surprised
• 36:42
  Speaker 16: is politicians so rarely do what they said they're going
• 36:44
  Speaker 16: to do, and he's doing just that. So I was
• 36:47
  Speaker 16: proud of the speech. I thought the Democrats had really
• 36:50
  Speaker 16: no response. I thought, when he put them on the
• 36:52
  Speaker 16: spot on the most basic question of what's most important,
• 36:57
  Speaker 16: not recognizing that their primary responsibilities to stand up and
• 37:01
  Speaker 16: protect America is just shows you how far the Democratic
• 37:05
  Speaker 16: Party has gone astray.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: And I think the President, you know, did a great job.
• 37:10
  Speaker 16: The final thing, I'll say, nobody does pageantry like like
• 37:14
  Speaker 16: President Trump. I mean, the calls from the gallery, the
• 37:18
  Speaker 16: people that were there, whether it's the military heroes, the
• 37:21
  Speaker 16: hockey team, the Venice Whalen, gentleman who had been in prison.
• 37:26
  Speaker 16: I mean, it was just one great, uplifting surprise after another.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: So I thought, a great night.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Well, Senator Dave McCormick.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: There are rumors swirling around that Justice Alito, a conservative stallwart,
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: may in fact retire after this session concludes. So you guys,
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: you guys may have a confirmation hearing over this summer.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: What have you heard about this and what would that
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: look like?
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: You know, honestly, I've not heard that, So you're you're
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: one step ahead of me.
• 38:02
  Speaker 16: I obviously it's the most consequential thing, or one of
• 38:06
  Speaker 16: the most consequential things the president can do. Imagine, despite
• 38:11
  Speaker 16: despite the recent AIPA decision, which of course was was
• 38:14
  Speaker 16: against the President's point of view and against the point
• 38:17
  Speaker 16: of view I had expressed. Putting that aside for a second,
• 38:20
  Speaker 16: imagine had we not had a conservative court. Imagine the
• 38:24
  Speaker 16: various cases that would have been resolved in a different direction.
• 38:27
  Speaker 16: Imagine what would have happened if if those last several
• 38:32
  Speaker 16: nominations have been Joe Biden's nomination. So this is an
• 38:34
  Speaker 16: incredibly consequential moment for the president. And uh if if
• 38:38
  Speaker 16: in fact this happens, uh, you know, I'm I'm optimistic.
• 38:42
  Speaker 16: We'll find a great jurist who's committed to the Constitution
• 38:45
  Speaker 16: and uh, and we'll move us forward.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: If it does happen.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Do you expect your colleagues across the aisle to, uh, well,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: with the exception of John Fetterman, to pretty much go insane.
• 38:58
  Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I think there's I think there's a good
• 39:00
  Speaker 16: bit of insanity on the other side. Somebody asked me,
• 39:03
  Speaker 16: you know, I really try hard not to call names
• 39:08
  Speaker 16: of call the you know, the Democrats' names, called individual
• 39:12
  Speaker 16: people names, because I think part of the problem we
• 39:14
  Speaker 16: have is the dehumanizing language, particularly that the left uses
• 39:18
  Speaker 16: in describing political leaders nazeas and so so.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I try to. I try to not use that language
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: in general.
• 39:24
  Speaker 16: But somebody asked me a day earlier today on a
• 39:26
  Speaker 16: radio show, Hey, do you think the Democrats are crazy?
• 39:30
  Speaker 16: And I said, listen, anytime you have a political party
• 39:33
  Speaker 16: that consistently is staking out ground on eighty twenty issues
• 39:38
  Speaker 16: with the twenty, yeah, it seems pretty crazy to me.
• 39:40
  Speaker 16: Whether it's shutting down the government, or whether it's on
• 39:44
  Speaker 16: the Save America Act, or whether it's on transgender transitions
• 39:48
  Speaker 16: for minors.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: The Democrats time and.
• 39:51
  Speaker 16: Again keep embracing positions that are truly radical and outside
• 39:56
  Speaker 16: the mainstream of American political views.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: So I do think they're crazy.
• 40:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I really do.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Senator McCormick, allow me to make you feel old. Thirty
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: five years ago. Right now, you and I were both
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: in the Persian Gulf War. It looks like we are
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: building up forces to an extent we haven't seen since
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: then in the region around Iran. What do you think
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: of the president's policy towards Iran? Would you support a
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: strike designed to change that murderous regime that has so
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: much American blood on its hands. We got about thirty seconds.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I support what the President is doing. I
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: think We're tightening the noose.
• 40:43
  Speaker 16: This is a bankrupt regime that poses real threat with
• 40:46
  Speaker 16: the nuclear capability, which we've taken way back, but is
• 40:49
  Speaker 16: a real threat. They've been the terrorist finance, the financer
• 40:53
  Speaker 16: of terrorist activity, and you know, I think the present
• 40:56
  Speaker 16: has a lot of range of options and I suspect
• 40:58
  Speaker 16: to use that wisely. Don't trust the Iranians would be
• 41:02
  Speaker 16: my final word on this. They've proven time and again
• 41:05
  Speaker 16: that they're going to break any agreement. But the Present's
• 41:08
  Speaker 16: got lots of tools at his dispose and I'm hoping
• 41:10
  Speaker 16: we see regime change in the coming weeks and months.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Senator Dave McCormick from the Great State of Pennsylvania, thank
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: you for showing up here on the Hugh Hewitt Show
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: sharing your insights. We appreciate it. I'm guess hos Kurt Schlichter.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: We still got a lot to come.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Stick around. We're back on the Here Hewitt Show.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: I'm guess Ho's Kurt Schlichter. But you knew that because
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: I'm playing the clash London Calling. Let me ask my
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: next guest, Sarah Bedford watching examiner Poliico and investigative reporter Sarah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: you ever heard of the clash.
• 41:45
  Speaker 15: I actually have. I didn't heard that song before, believe
• 41:47
  Speaker 15: it or not.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, let me get us on the oldies station.
• 41:53
  Speaker 15: Does that make me cool?
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: My mom thinks I'm cool. I'll tell you what I thought.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Yesterday's Stay of the Union address was exactly what Trump
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: needed to do, and I thought it was very cunning
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: the way he pulled it off.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: What do you think and what are the people in
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: power in Washington think?
• 42:15
  Speaker 18: Well, it was a good reminder of why Donald Trump
• 42:17
  Speaker 18: won right, Some of these issues that he won on
• 42:21
  Speaker 18: just a little over a year ago have sort of
• 42:22
  Speaker 18: gotten away from him in terms of public opinion. The
• 42:25
  Speaker 18: immigration agenda, for example, had really fallen in popularity because
• 42:30
  Speaker 18: of the way it's been executed in Minneapolis and elsewhere.
• 42:33
  Speaker 15: Just the public had started to get a little squeamish.
• 42:35
  Speaker 18: About the optics of some of these really aggressive deportations.
• 42:39
  Speaker 15: But when Donald Trump lays out.
• 42:40
  Speaker 18: His immigration agenda the way he did last night, it's
• 42:43
  Speaker 18: a reminder to voters why Republicans have retained the advantage
• 42:47
  Speaker 18: on immigration, why Donald Trump has been the leader on
• 42:50
  Speaker 18: this issue, even though Democrats had sort of for years
• 42:54
  Speaker 18: assumed that they as having the more perceived, you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 18: Hispanic friendly agenda would be the more more popular party
• 43:01
  Speaker 18: on this issue. And it just a reminder that if
• 43:03
  Speaker 18: Donald Trump could really just stick to his core promises
• 43:07
  Speaker 18: about the economy and immigration and not get so swept
• 43:10
  Speaker 18: up in some of the other things that have distracted
• 43:12
  Speaker 18: from his first term agenda, there's no reason why this
• 43:15
  Speaker 18: couldn't be an enormously successful second term for him.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Well, Sarah Bedford, we know what the Republicans are going
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: to say about the state of the Union. We know
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: what the Democrats are going to say publicly. What are
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: the Democrats saying privately about how last night went?
• 43:32
  Speaker 18: I do think there's some discomfort among the Democrats about
• 43:36
  Speaker 18: the way members of their party looked heckling Donald Trump
• 43:39
  Speaker 18: in a frankly unhinged.
• 43:41
  Speaker 15: Way at some parts of the State of the Union.
• 43:43
  Speaker 18: That's not something the Democratic congressional leadership wanted to see
• 43:47
  Speaker 18: from their members.
• 43:48
  Speaker 15: There was a sort of ammunition.
• 43:51
  Speaker 18: From House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries for just everyone to
• 43:54
  Speaker 18: cool it and don't.
• 43:55
  Speaker 15: Make us look dumb. And it feeds into the narrative.
• 43:58
  Speaker 18: That Donald Trump has about Congressional demoical I mean, he
• 44:00
  Speaker 18: stood there at the podium and called them crazy and
• 44:04
  Speaker 18: said they're impossible to work with and they're irrational, And
• 44:07
  Speaker 18: then in some ways a few of them sort of
• 44:09
  Speaker 18: proved Donald Trump wright by screaming at him and refusing
• 44:12
  Speaker 18: to stand for the notion that the government should support
• 44:15
  Speaker 18: American citizens over legal immigrants. They sort of played right
• 44:19
  Speaker 18: into Donald Trump's trap. So optically it wasn't a very
• 44:22
  Speaker 18: good night for Democrats.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Well, Sarah Bedford, I'm looking at Chuck Schumer, who's obviously
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: very afraid of AOC challenging him. I'm looking at Hakem Jefferies, who,
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: let's put it this way, he's not going to get
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: a Nobel Prize for particle physics anytime soon. And I
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: don't see strong leaders who are able to discipline their
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: wildest out liars. Is that good assessment or am I
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: being a little simplistic?
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: I think that's a great assessment.
• 44:52
  Speaker 18: Do you think Belosi ever would have let that nonsense
• 44:54
  Speaker 18: fly when she was in charge?
• 44:56
  Speaker 15: Definitely not. I mean last year, when she had relinquished
• 45:00
  Speaker 15: control of.
• 45:00
  Speaker 18: Leadership, you had the really embarrassing like auction ping pong
• 45:04
  Speaker 18: paddle thing that the Democrats did during Trump's first join
• 45:07
  Speaker 18: address to Congress, and this time it was all over
• 45:09
  Speaker 18: the place. But Democrats don't have a leader in Congress
• 45:13
  Speaker 18: or really anywhere. And do you see the Democratic base
• 45:16
  Speaker 18: get frustrated at that? And I think the current Democratic
• 45:18
  Speaker 18: congressional leadership reads that as they just want us to
• 45:21
  Speaker 18: be more obstructionist against Donald Trump's agenda. And that's where
• 45:25
  Speaker 18: you see things like the DHS shutdown. That's not necessarily
• 45:29
  Speaker 18: what Democratic voters want to see. They just want to
• 45:31
  Speaker 18: see some sort of strong leadership in Washington. They don't
• 45:34
  Speaker 18: really have that right now.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: If the Democrats strategy is focus entirely on Donald Trump,
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: doesn't that give Donald Trump a lot of power to
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: do what he did yesterday which has come out and
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: as Dwayne Patterson points out his new Hot Air article,
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: just be normal and it totally discombobulates them.
• 45:54
  Speaker 18: I mean, you would think, Kurt, that after over eleven
• 45:57
  Speaker 18: years into Donald Trump on the political stage, Democrats would
• 46:01
  Speaker 18: have learned that the same sort of tactics against Donald Trump,
• 46:05
  Speaker 18: namely losing their minds over every little thing he says
• 46:08
  Speaker 18: and does, even when he says and does popular stuff.
• 46:12
  Speaker 18: That's not a tactic that has worked for Democrats. It's
• 46:15
  Speaker 18: never worked for Democrats when they've tried to make it
• 46:17
  Speaker 18: a character argument against Donald Trump, and they are still
• 46:22
  Speaker 18: pursuing that same route and it's still not working well.
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: Sarah Bedford, you are the political and investigative reporter at
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  Speaker 5: Bedford on the Twitter Machine. Thanks for your insights, and
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: I think you guys should stick around because we've got
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  Speaker 5: You and my pal Guy Benson are normy cons. You
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  Speaker 3: To have that car go ahead.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, there's there's plenty of people who will take your
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  Speaker 13: blood pressure up, and I'm not always trying to be
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  Speaker 13: one of them.
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  Speaker 15: I'm occasionally trying to be one of them.
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  Speaker 13: My blood pressure has been up at this fake US
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  Speaker 13: hockey team controversy this week, but other than that, I'm
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  Speaker 13: trying to keep it chill.
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 5: I want to talk to you about that, because look,
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  Speaker 5: I love getting in a big fight. That's that's great
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  Speaker 5: for me. The kind of thing seems to Paine paying you,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, the last couple of days, I don't
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  Speaker 5: understand it. I think recently the Dems have kind of
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  Speaker 5: gone insane. Last week they're taking the side of people
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  Speaker 5: who don't like dogs. This week they're coming out against
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  Speaker 5: hockey players.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy talk.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 13: I think the bat signal went out about halfway through
• 50:38
  Speaker 13: the day yesterday before the State of the Union on
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  Speaker 13: purpose from some left of center figures. Stephanie Cutter and
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  Speaker 13: jos Garber were both like, hey, let's not try to
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  Speaker 13: cancel the men's gold medal winning hockey team. I don't
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  Speaker 13: think that will play well because they knew that Democrats
• 50:53
  Speaker 13: are hearing all from their crazy left wing online.
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  Speaker 15: That these these guys are bad now.
• 50:58
  Speaker 13: We've decided they're bad now, and we also don't love
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  Speaker 13: the country very much, so let's go against them. And
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  Speaker 13: they're afraid that Democrats are going to sit for the
• 51:06
  Speaker 13: gold medal winning hockey team, which is not a good look.
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  Speaker 13: But this is where they land because they listen to
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  Speaker 13: these online people. And by the way, the controversy is
• 51:13
  Speaker 13: totally made up.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: Oh it's so much of this stuff is objectively ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: But enough about the eines, the Epstein factor, and it
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: becomes what you accurately called ther in your podcast, the
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: second or the second terms, Russia collusion hoax. It's just
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: all ridiculous. But Dwayne has a theory, and I think
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: it's a good theory. And his theory is when Trump's
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: normal and the Democrats look crazy, trump wins. I think
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: yesterday was the start of the national part of the
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: midterm campaign, and I think Trump looked like a normal
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: guy i'd want to hang around with.
• 51:57
  Speaker 15: I agree.
• 51:57
  Speaker 13: I think his way of doing the State of the
• 51:59
  Speaker 13: Union is very good. This like this is your life.
• 52:02
  Speaker 13: Who knows who's going to come through the door? People
• 52:05
  Speaker 13: get excited. I was drawn in my cynical self, even
• 52:08
  Speaker 13: at hour two was watching a one hundred year old
• 52:12
  Speaker 13: deserving Royce Williams get his Medal of Honor and I'm
• 52:17
  Speaker 13: loving it, right, So I think the way he does
• 52:20
  Speaker 13: that is very impressive. I think he fought his worst
• 52:24
  Speaker 13: instincts when he commented on Scotus and he kept it
• 52:27
  Speaker 13: pretty chill, which is good. And then you've got Ilhan
• 52:29
  Speaker 13: Omar yelling at him obsessively while he's really just doing
• 52:35
  Speaker 13: a pretty entertaining speech.
• 52:37
  Speaker 15: So I think that is a dynamic that doesn't play
• 52:39
  Speaker 15: well for the Democratic Party.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Well, I think they looked like lunatics.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: She got Rashida Talib and Illan Omar there, you know,
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: kind of almost a singularity of stupidity, screaming and yelling
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: like children and Trump. Trump's just basically ignoring them, and
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: then he draws them into the will you stand up
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: to if you love America, stand up and about half
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: the Democrats are like, no, yeah, it's crazy.
• 53:04
  Speaker 13: Well, and this is one of those things where like
• 53:05
  Speaker 13: as a as a normy Khan and a normy adjacent
• 53:09
  Speaker 13: person because I'm too interested in politics to be actually.
• 53:11
  Speaker 15: Normal, but I am close to it.
• 53:14
  Speaker 13: This is a real concern because what Democrats say and
• 53:18
  Speaker 13: telegraph and explicitly do with their time and work and
• 53:21
  Speaker 13: energy is value citizens who've committed crimes and illegal immigrants
• 53:28
  Speaker 13: over taxpayer, tax paying, law abiding citizens. They tell you
• 53:32
  Speaker 13: all the time what is important to them. They tell
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  Speaker 13: you that criminals who attack you should have special treatment
• 53:40
  Speaker 13: and they should get your money, and like this.
• 53:43
  Speaker 15: This is what they do, whether it's welfare benefits or
• 53:46
  Speaker 15: just general leniency in the law.
• 53:48
  Speaker 13: And there are normal people who go, wait a second,
• 53:50
  Speaker 13: what why am I paying it into the system when
• 53:54
  Speaker 13: illegal immigrants are put above my needs.
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: Most of the time.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: Are these guys running focused grows at the Oberlin Faculty lounge.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: It's nuts to me now, Like I said, you are
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: saying you are a normal person. You're getting hammered. Podcast
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  Speaker 5: is a beacon of sanity.
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: These guys.
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  Speaker 13: I'm trying to read primary documents from or by the
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  Speaker 13: founders every day of the year, as many days as
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  Speaker 13: I can find and there's some great stuff in there,
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  Speaker 13: like John Adams advising all the citizens to start making
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  Speaker 13: saltpeter so we can have massive amounts of gunpowder during
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  Speaker 13: the revolution. So if you check out the Getting Hammered
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  Speaker 13: feed you will find readings there. But I think this
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  Speaker 13: hockey controversy is actually a preview of what the left
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  Speaker 13: is going to attempt to drag Democrats into for America
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  Speaker 13: to fifty, to say that merely loving your country, celebrating
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  Speaker 13: its birthday, being excited about the greatest gift of freedom
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  Speaker 13: in the history of humankind is bad and political and trumpy,
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  Speaker 13: and that kind of messaging is not good for normal people.
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  Speaker 13: Normal people like the country. They don't think it's a
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  Speaker 13: scourge upon the earth. They think celebrating its birthday would
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  Speaker 13: be fun, just like they think the hockey team is
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  Speaker 13: great and fun. And if you are on the opposite
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  Speaker 13: side of that, you're doing the wrong thing.
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  Speaker 8: Well.
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  Speaker 15: Period.
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  Speaker 5: Well look yesterday, you know Donald Trump walks out, Well,
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  Speaker 5: actually he had to be helped out because he's recovering
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  Speaker 5: from wounds.
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  Speaker 15: And you have a.
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  Speaker 5: Pilot who looks like he's asked Central Casting if he
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  Speaker 5: ripped his uform open, there'll be BIG's there right.
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  Speaker 14: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Check out Getting Hammered with Mary Katherine Ham. It is
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  Speaker 3: a great podcast. It's sticked or approved. We'll be right
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  Speaker 3: back on the hug Huit chip