Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 10-06-26 Hour 1 - Let's play the Broncos Blame Game!/Surviving a banged up defense/White Sox almost to ALCS
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
- 0:05Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
- 0:08Speaker 1: Radio 92.5 and.
- 0:10Speaker 2: On the Altitude Sports Radio app. Hey, Coach.
- 0:19Speaker 3: When you look at the film, how would you assess
- 0:22Speaker 3: Bo's throwing mechanics so far this year?
- 0:26Speaker 4: His mechanics?
- 0:27Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 0:28Speaker 3: His footwork? Yeah, yep, yep.
- 0:31Speaker 6: So I would say.
- 0:32Speaker 4: This because it's a position I've coached for, I don't know,
- 0:35Speaker 4: however many years. You want to be careful how much
- 0:37Speaker 4: you say. In other words, he's real good when he
- 0:39Speaker 4: flushes out of the pocket. I think there was one
- 0:41Speaker 4: snap a week ago. He came out the back instead
- 0:44Speaker 4: of climbing, but he's pretty good relative to understanding the
- 0:50Speaker 4: drop as it pertains to the depth of route. There
- 0:52Speaker 4: are times where Logan or Davis will look closely and
- 0:57Speaker 4: with a route and say, Hey, maybe we hitch here,
- 1:00Speaker 4: but got a feel for these routes. And he understands,
- 1:03Speaker 4: you know, whether it's in the gun or under center,
- 1:05Speaker 4: what it should feel like and look like his mechanics.
- 1:09Speaker 4: I don't.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Know why they confused him.
- 1:14Speaker 4: His mechanics, his mechanics.
- 1:17Speaker 2: I don't think it confused him. I think it was
- 1:19Speaker 2: more like you're kidding me, right?
- 1:23Speaker 3: Well, he thought he was that, was that his way
- 1:24Speaker 3: of calling DMACC a nerd?
- 1:26Speaker 2: No, I'm sure that he's trying to be nice about it,
- 1:31Speaker 2: but at the same time, are we going there now?
- 1:34Speaker 2: It was a great question. There's no... Hey, listen. Great question.
- 1:39Speaker 2: I think so, too. He's telling you how he reacted.
- 1:41Speaker 4: His mechanics?
- 1:44Speaker 3: Here's the thing. I don't know... It's very hard for
- 1:49Speaker 3: me to watch the discourse around Bo Nix right now. Because...
- 1:58Speaker 3: I feel like people who are a bit surprised by
- 2:04Speaker 3: what they're witnessing from him through the first four weeks
- 2:06Speaker 3: of the season, it feels like they just started watching
- 2:11Speaker 3: Broncos football and didn't see what the last couple of
- 2:14Speaker 3: years were. The problem I think that Bo Nix has
- 2:20Speaker 3: at this moment, and everybody's making this about larger discussions, Like,
- 2:25Speaker 3: we're taking the first four weeks, and a lot of
- 2:28Speaker 3: the discourse has been, should Sean Payton take play-calling duties back?
- 2:34Speaker 3: Would you give Bo Nix a long-term contract? Those are
- 2:40Speaker 3: way too early to have talks like that. I think
- 2:44Speaker 3: Bo has this issue that people expect him to be
- 2:50Speaker 3: John Elway at times, in which... He can put the
- 2:54Speaker 3: team on his shoulders and literally by himself carry you
- 2:56Speaker 3: to a victory. And the reality is, I think Bo
- 3:00Speaker 3: Nix is a lot closer to what I saw from
- 3:02Speaker 3: Michael Penix last night. Michael Penix, the Atlanta Falcons dominated
- 3:07Speaker 3: that game against the Saints. Penix played a good game,
- 3:11Speaker 3: but he didn't have to do much. He didn't have
- 3:13Speaker 3: to do things.
- 3:14Speaker 2: But I thought Penix was so decisive and quick with
- 3:18Speaker 2: his pass route.
- 3:19Speaker 3: He was. You know what helps? B. John Robinson jogging
- 3:23Speaker 3: for 190 yards. Like, if you, and I think that's
- 3:26Speaker 3: the biggest issue. The Broncos offense wasn't bad last year.
- 3:30Speaker 3: If there's one thing I could point to as the
- 3:32Speaker 3: biggest difference, because I've said over and over, this offense
- 3:36Speaker 3: looks no different than it has the last two years.
- 3:38Speaker 3: With one exception. I will make one amendment to that.
- 3:41Speaker 3: The first 10 games of the year last year, the
- 3:43Speaker 3: Broncos ran the football well. They did.
- 3:46Speaker 5: J.K.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Dobbins ran the football well for the first 10 games
- 3:48Speaker 3: of the year last year. And then they didn't. And
- 3:51Speaker 3: then you struggled on offense. Like Bo Nix needs a
- 3:53Speaker 3: running game. And it's non-existent. They're 29th in the league
- 3:57Speaker 3: this year in rushing. If your quarterback is not elite level,
- 4:01Speaker 3: you're going to have problems. Kansas City's offense looked pretty
- 4:05Speaker 3: pedestrian the last few years, right? Like they were just
- 4:08Speaker 3: middle of the road. Until.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker III showed up.
- 4:13Speaker 3: Now how do they look? They look pretty good.
- 4:15Speaker 5: In fact, I was listening to something yesterday, Vic. It
- 4:18Speaker 5: was on television, but I was sort of in the
- 4:19Speaker 5: kitchen bouncing around. talking about that this guy, they're talking
- 4:23Speaker 5: about MVP candidates who are not quarterbacks. And they mentioned him. Like, whoa.
- 4:31Speaker 5: Because he's running the football incredibly effectively for the Chiefs.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Like, when you look at, how's this for a stat?
- 4:41Speaker 3: The Broncos did not attempt a deep throw, 20 or
- 4:44Speaker 3: more air yards, until there was less than two minutes
- 4:46Speaker 3: left against the 49ers last week. Of Bo Nix's 42 passes,
- 4:50Speaker 3: only nine traveled over 10 air yards, and one of
- 4:55Speaker 3: them was completed. Now, why? You have to ask yourself,
- 4:58Speaker 3: why is that? Is that Bo Nix just being so
- 5:01Speaker 3: terrified of throwing the ball downfield that he feels like
- 5:04Speaker 3: he has to check down? Or is it a defense
- 5:09Speaker 3: that has no fear of a running game, so they
- 5:11Speaker 3: play guys way back and don't allow you to? Well,
- 5:14Speaker 3: maybe it's a little bit of both.
- 5:15Speaker 5: I mean, clearly, the two deep safeties the entire contest.
- 5:21Speaker 5: They didn't fear it. They didn't have to stack the box.
- 5:24Speaker 3: That's from Zach Kelberman, by the way. I want to
- 5:26Speaker 3: give credit. Okay.
- 5:28Speaker 5: There was no reason to. They could just play too
- 5:30Speaker 5: deep all game long, Vic, and say, ain't nothing getting
- 5:34Speaker 5: over our heads. Ain't nothing beating us downfield.
- 5:36Speaker 2: All right, let's do chicken or egg. In this case,
- 5:40Speaker 2: it'd be chicken or egg or owner of the chicken.
- 5:48Speaker 3: I'm serious.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Hold on.
- 5:48Speaker 3: Chicken, egg. Or farmer.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Chicken, egg, or farmer.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Okay, chicken, egg, or farmer.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Let's play.
- 5:54Speaker 3: It's funny because the egg doesn't come without the chicken,
- 5:57Speaker 3: but the chicken doesn't come without the guy who owns
- 5:58Speaker 3: the farm that gets the chicken.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Let's play an age-old game of chicken, egg, or farmer.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Is it the running backs? Maybe they're not finding the
- 6:10Speaker 2: hole in time. Maybe they're not slippery enough. Maybe they're
- 6:14Speaker 2: not strong enough. Maybe they don't have the guile to
- 6:18Speaker 2: play the position. Is it the offensive line not penetrating enough,
- 6:24Speaker 2: not giving them holes, not giving them alleys? Is it
- 6:28Speaker 2: the farmer? Is it the coaches not allowing the running
- 6:32Speaker 2: game to mature?
- 6:36Speaker 3: Are you going to have to throw another thing in there?
- 6:38Speaker 3: Is it God? Is it God?
- 6:39Speaker 5: There's God in there now. There's farmers.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Is God Bo Nix?
- 6:43Speaker 3: Where's the neighbor? You forgot somebody.
- 6:46Speaker 2: What does it have to do with Bo Nix? Oh, okay.
- 6:50Speaker 3: No. I thought one of those was going to be
- 6:52Speaker 3: Bo Nix just is playing bad.
- 6:53Speaker 6: No, no, no.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Those three things right there. It's either the blocking scheme lineman.
- 6:59Speaker 2: It's either the running backs. Terrell Davis last year at
- 7:01Speaker 2: the Super Bowl during media week said it's the running backs.
- 7:04Speaker 2: That's what he told me. He said the running backs
- 7:06Speaker 2: are not up to par. Some people have said it's the,
- 7:09Speaker 2: you know, the lines just overrated. Other people have said
- 7:13Speaker 2: they're fine. It's the farmer not farming the land. To
- 7:18Speaker 2: allow the chickens to prosper.
- 7:22Speaker 3: I'll stick with this. I think it's the backs. Like, J.K.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Dobbins was good last year. He clearly is not the same.
- 7:32Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's just he aged like
- 7:35Speaker 3: running backs do, or some years, like, you just fall
- 7:37Speaker 3: off a cliff. You don't got it anymore. I don't
- 7:39Speaker 3: know if it's the injury that he's dealing with or what.
- 7:42Speaker 3: But he can't run the football. Not effectively like you
- 7:45Speaker 3: did last season. And I think it's a huge hindrance. Again,
- 7:50Speaker 3: I watch these games every week. Guys, I watched Bijan
- 7:54Speaker 3: last night. I watched Bijan have a huge, it was
- 7:58Speaker 3: like a 50-yard touchdown. He looked like he was jogging.
- 8:01Speaker 4: I know.
- 8:02Speaker 3: And he ran past everybody.
- 8:04Speaker 2: If you put him on the Broncos' side, would it
- 8:07Speaker 2: look the same? Somebody on Twitch said, farm logic is confusing.
- 8:15Speaker 2: It's the most basic logic known to man. Do you
- 8:20Speaker 2: guys ever imagine that? Do you ever imagine, okay, if
- 8:22Speaker 2: we had one of them, if you had a Bijan,
- 8:24Speaker 2: would he look the same here?
- 8:27Speaker 3: He'd look pretty close. I think he would, yeah, Vic.
- 8:30Speaker 5: I was going to say, this guy's a special back.
- 8:33Speaker 5: I mean, you could put him in Miami and maybe
- 8:36Speaker 5: he wouldn't. I don't know, but I bet that he
- 8:38Speaker 5: would because he's just that quality.
- 8:40Speaker 3: He's that good. Like, it looks so hard. for the
- 8:44Speaker 3: Broncos to run the football right now. It's so difficult.
- 8:47Speaker 3: You can't find a pop play on the ground. Guys,
- 8:52Speaker 3: we're four weeks into the season. What's the Broncos' best
- 8:55Speaker 3: run of the year? Does anything even pop in your head?
- 8:57Speaker 6: No.
- 8:58Speaker 2: I think it was maybe Jonah Coleman against Jacksonville. the
- 9:03Speaker 2: run left side where he tried to milk the clock
- 9:06Speaker 2: by staying in bounds.
- 9:07Speaker 3: Like that's the only run I can think of. Honestly.
- 9:10Speaker 2: All right.
- 9:10Speaker 3: All right.
- 9:11Speaker 2: I've, I've come to my, hang on, hang on, hang on.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Let me show you something real quick. This is for,
- 9:14Speaker 3: this is a touchdown from last night. This is Bijan.
- 9:17Speaker 3: I want you to watch him run and tell me
- 9:20Speaker 3: if you think he's running hard and then watch what
- 9:23Speaker 3: happens to everybody else. That's a jog. He's jogging, and
- 9:28Speaker 3: nobody's close to him. There's nobody on this roster in
- 9:31Speaker 3: the backfield that can do that.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Okay, now insert one of the Broncos running backs into
- 9:35Speaker 2: that play. Can AI do that?
- 9:36Speaker 3: Go back.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Can AI take one of the Bronco running backs and
- 9:40Speaker 2: see what happens? All right, so there's the pull. There's
- 9:42Speaker 2: the hole. Now he's running just past.
- 9:44Speaker 3: That play, look, big hole. That play is probably, for
- 9:48Speaker 3: one of the running backs for the Broncos, a 20-yard run.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Okay, I've come to my conclusion. I've seen enough. It's
- 9:56Speaker 2: It's the chickens. It's the chickens.
- 9:59Speaker 3: Yep.
- 10:00Speaker 2: It's not the egg. Not the farmer.
- 10:03Speaker 3: It's the chickens. It's not the farmer. And certainly not God.
- 10:06Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 10:07Speaker 2: They got some bad chickens.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Well, this is what... Guys, we were talking about this
- 10:11Speaker 3: in the offseason. We were talking about getting the offense
- 10:14Speaker 3: more explosive, right? And Mo's Jalen Waddell helps. Like, he
- 10:17Speaker 3: helps in that category. But we were all kind of saying, like,
- 10:21Speaker 3: I think you need a running back. Like, you need
- 10:22Speaker 3: somebody else.
- 10:23Speaker 5: Well, they drafted a running back.
- 10:25Speaker 3: Drafting somebody in the fourth round, though. You're right.
- 10:28Speaker 2: The farmer picks the chickens. Good point, Danza. The farmer
- 10:32Speaker 2: picks the chickens here. The chickens don't just show up.
- 10:35Speaker 2: They're shopping. They're going to the auction.
- 10:38Speaker 3: They're at the auction.
- 10:39Speaker 2: They go, hey, hey, hey. They're picking these chickens.
- 10:41Speaker 3: Did you say, hey, batter, batter? Is that what you
- 10:43Speaker 3: just said?
- 10:44Speaker 5: That's exactly what he said. I almost spit my Pepsi out.
- 10:58Speaker 3: They wanted to run it back with J.K. Dobbins, but
- 11:01Speaker 3: we all thought the same thing. I didn't think it
- 11:02Speaker 3: would be because J.K. wouldn't be effective like he hasn't
- 11:06Speaker 3: been this year. We all thought he'd get hurt. And so, yeah,
- 11:10Speaker 3: you drafted Jonah Coleman in the fourth round for insurance.
- 11:14Speaker 3: You didn't do that thinking that Jonah Coleman is going
- 11:16Speaker 3: to be, you know, your stellar bell cow back. Like
- 11:21Speaker 3: I thought they should have been in the mix with the,
- 11:24Speaker 3: the HNs. That was ETN, HN, whatever. Kenneth Walker's like,
- 11:29Speaker 3: I thought.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker was a candidate. What, you know, here's the
- 11:32Speaker 2: conclusion we've made in the first segment of the show. We've,
- 11:35Speaker 2: we've just, we've matured leaps and bounds. We've just done something.
- 11:41Speaker 2: What the Denver Broncos need is a Redbird farms chicken.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Yep.
- 11:47Speaker 2: They need an upgrade there. They need to go get
- 11:49Speaker 2: themselves a Redbird Farms chicken. Right now, the chickens they have.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Don't call me that.
- 11:56Speaker 2: And maybe we were fooled. We were fooled. I mean,
- 12:01Speaker 2: come on. Go back to training camp. What were we
- 12:02Speaker 2: talking about in training camp?
- 12:06Speaker 3: As far as.
- 12:06Speaker 5: You're going to have to narrow it down a bit
- 12:08Speaker 5: because we talked about freaking everything.
- 12:10Speaker 2: JK was on one. He was defiant. He was going
- 12:12Speaker 2: to be healthy. He's ready to roll.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it turns out the health isn't the problem.
- 12:18Speaker 2: J.K.
- 12:18Speaker 3: 's playing, he's just not effective.
- 12:20Speaker 2: You know, and Jonah Coleman, bless his soul, I mean,
- 12:23Speaker 2: he looks great, but he ain't a Bijon or a
- 12:26Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker. He ain't making people miss. When we watched
- 12:29Speaker 2: week one of the season, dude, Kenneth Walker makes people miss.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Yeah. You either break a tackle or you juke somebody. Yeah,
- 12:40Speaker 3: I just, I've always thought that Bo Nix, I think
- 12:43Speaker 3: it's been pretty clear through the first two years, Moj,
- 12:45Speaker 3: He's not the kind of guy that's going to win
- 12:47Speaker 3: you a game without help. He's just not, he's not
- 12:49Speaker 3: that quarterback. I don't know if he's ever going to be,
- 12:51Speaker 3: maybe he can eventually get there, but give me the
- 12:55Speaker 3: game where everything's kind of gone wrong, but you won
- 12:58Speaker 3: the game because Bo Nix just carried you there. He's
- 13:01Speaker 3: done it late. He's done it late.
- 13:02Speaker 4: He's done it late.
- 13:03Speaker 5: He's made plays. He's made, I mean, he'll make throws
- 13:07Speaker 5: where I go, man, that's a total pro throw. That
- 13:09Speaker 5: is just such a, it's such a heady, good, responsible,
- 13:14Speaker 5: professional guy.
- 13:15Speaker 2: How about this?
- 13:16Speaker 3: Give me a Broncos game.
- 13:18Speaker 5: And then there are times when I go, that's just
- 13:21Speaker 5: not good.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Use your machines. Give me a Broncos game over the
- 13:26Speaker 2: last two years that produced their best running performance we've seen.
- 13:31Speaker 5: All right?
- 13:32Speaker 2: And I want, just take their best running game over
- 13:34Speaker 2: the last two years.
- 13:35Speaker 3: What did that look like?
- 13:38Speaker 2: What did that look like? What were the results? What
- 13:41Speaker 2: was the score? I'm just curious. I'm talking about their best,
- 13:46Speaker 2: not their usual, because their usual is what we saw
- 13:48Speaker 2: over the weekend. That's the usual. Right?
- 13:52Speaker 3: It was October 17th of 2024. It was a 33-10
- 13:57Speaker 3: win over New Orleans. They ran the ball for 225 yards.
- 14:01Speaker 2: October 17th, 2024?
- 14:03Speaker 6: Yes.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Russell Wilson was still the quarterback?
- 14:06Speaker 3: Nope, that was Bo Nix's rookie year.
- 14:08Speaker 5: Oh.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Okay, so Bo was the QB.
- 14:10Speaker 3: So Javante had 14 carries for 88 yards. Bo Nix
- 14:14Speaker 3: had 10 carries for 75. There it is right there.
- 14:17Speaker 3: McLaughlin and Estamay combined for 64.
- 14:20Speaker 2: I remember that game. I remember that was the breakthrough
- 14:22Speaker 2: game for Bo running the ball. They designed run plays
- 14:25Speaker 2: for Bo. Okay, that's Bo running the ball. Those numbers
- 14:29Speaker 2: are where they are because Bo designed and ran the ball.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Not by just scrambling, by running.
- 14:35Speaker 3: Last year, JK had a 111-yard game against the Cowboys,
- 14:38Speaker 3: and they demolished them. I mean, yeah. When the Broncos
- 14:44Speaker 3: run the football well, they play well. That's it.
- 14:48Speaker 2: I mean, it's A plus B equals C. It's pretty
- 14:52Speaker 2: easy to see. Colin on the text line says, Javante
- 14:54Speaker 2: Williams would tell you that it is indeed the Farmers.
- 14:58Speaker 3: He would. Javante's a weird one, man.
- 15:01Speaker 5: And he is a weird one, but he's got to
- 15:04Speaker 5: be honest. He's running the ball pretty well for the Cowboys.
- 15:07Speaker 3: Would any of you have Javante Williams ranked in your
- 15:10Speaker 3: top 10 running backs in the league? I would not. Fifteen?
- 15:13Speaker 5: The way he's running the ball, maybe.
- 15:15Speaker 3: I'm just asking you, if you could pick 15 running
- 15:17Speaker 3: backs in the NFL, is Javante Williams one of the
- 15:19Speaker 3: top 15? You know, I'm curious why the Broncos.
- 15:23Speaker 5: Maybe I'm wrong to think that way, but I don't
- 15:25Speaker 5: think it would be. I would say no, just based
- 15:28Speaker 5: on his talent. But again, when they employ him, he's.
- 15:31Speaker 3: Pretty good for them.
- 15:32Speaker 2: I'm curious why the Broncos didn't make a run at
- 15:34Speaker 2: Joe Mixon and they allowed the defending Super Bowl champs
- 15:37Speaker 2: to go in and scoop him up. Oh, I don't know. Because.
- 15:43Speaker 3: Joe Mixon's old.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Well, let's see what he does in Seattle.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Yeah. He's not old, by the way. He's only 30,
- 15:51Speaker 3: but he's not old. But he's 30 for a running
- 15:53Speaker 3: back is pretty damn old, dude. But he's been around.
- 15:56Speaker 3: I mean, how many 30-year-old running backs are in this league?
- 15:58Speaker 2: Derrick Henry.
- 16:00Speaker 3: Okay, you can pick the elites if you want to.
- 16:03Speaker 3: But how many 30-year-old running backs outside of Derrick Henry?
- 16:06Speaker 2: You know what? I'm taking Kyron Williams.
- 16:08Speaker 3: Well, Kyron's not 30.
- 16:10Speaker 2: I know. No, but I'm talking about running backs with
- 16:12Speaker 2: some pop.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Yes, Kyron's really good. Don't miss a second as the
- 16:19Speaker 3: Nuggets continue their preseason schedule tonight in Utah against the Jags. Coverage. Jazz. Sorry, jazz.
- 16:26Speaker 3: Coverage on Altitude TV begins at 6.30 and tip off
- 16:30Speaker 3: shortly after 7, back after this. Adam Schefter joins us
- 16:33Speaker 3: at 9.20 this morning, so stay tuned for that.
- 16:37Speaker 5: Oh, Mosher, I found that little thing you need. I
- 16:42Speaker 5: need it today, so thanks. Thanks for coming in. I
- 16:47Speaker 5: leave for Winnipeg today.
- 16:49Speaker 2: What time do you leave?
- 16:51Speaker 3: I'm going to be at the airport. I've got to
- 16:52Speaker 3: be there by 1.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Okay, I've got to be down at altitude for the
- 16:56Speaker 2: Nuggets pregame. Is there anywhere we can meet?
- 16:58Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll swing by.
- 16:59Speaker 3: Are you guys aware that this is... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
- 17:01Speaker 3: We're on the show.
- 17:02Speaker 5: Hold on a second.
- 17:03Speaker 2: This is actually a show, so you better just listen up, Jack.
- 17:05Speaker 3: This isn't just a side, like, hey, can I call
- 17:07Speaker 3: you real quick?
- 17:08Speaker 5: The pregame's not until what time?
- 17:09Speaker 2: All right, Grandpa, let's get you to bed. Pre-game starts
- 17:12Speaker 2: at 6. Okay. So Mosher needs a little thing so
- 17:21Speaker 2: he can do his thing from Winnipeg, his radio show.
- 17:24Speaker 2: And I've got the little thing. Somehow it's in my things.
- 17:28Speaker 2: And he needs it.
- 17:31Speaker 3: So get in your car. That needs some help, please.
- 17:34Speaker 2: I don't know how that little thing is going to
- 17:36Speaker 2: help you, though, because it's a Verizon thing. It's a
- 17:38Speaker 2: Verizon mechanism.
- 17:39Speaker 3: How does that help? All right. We're just going to
- 17:40Speaker 3: move on from this. Uh, here is Sean Payton giving
- 17:43Speaker 3: an injury update yesterday.
- 17:44Speaker 6: Yeah, Chris, I appreciate it. Of course, you know, today
- 17:47Speaker 6: and throughout the week really will stay away from any updates.
- 17:50Speaker 6: You know, guys, we're all in today, getting work rehab
- 17:53Speaker 6: and we'll make sure we go through, you know, the
- 17:55Speaker 6: process well, and then, you know, we'll have a report Wednesday.
- 17:59Speaker 3: That's the beautiful, no update injury update from, uh, I
- 18:03Speaker 3: appreciate the question. Um, Nothing to report.
- 18:08Speaker 5: We'll find out this week. Some time, some stuff.
- 18:11Speaker 3: Yeah. Appreciate the question. Go bleep yourself. Not get an
- 18:14Speaker 3: answer from me. So I appreciate that. The good news,
- 18:19Speaker 3: at least from what we've seen from, from other reporters
- 18:22Speaker 3: across the league, none of these seem too crazy. Like
- 18:27Speaker 3: everything feels like you've avoided a long-term issue. You know,
- 18:33Speaker 3: obviously when Sertan leaves the field, non-contact injury and needs
- 18:38Speaker 3: help to get to the locker room, that looks bad.
- 18:41Speaker 3: Pat Bryant carted off, that looks bad. Riley Moss disappearing
- 18:45Speaker 3: never to be seen again, looks bad. Everybody seems like
- 18:48Speaker 3: they're week to week.
- 18:50Speaker 2: I would just plan on not having them for the
- 18:52Speaker 2: next couple weeks.
- 18:53Speaker 3: Yes. All of them.
- 18:55Speaker 2: You're not going to have them Sunday, right? No.
- 18:58Speaker 3: Riley Moss, his scares me because... He's had the rib
- 19:03Speaker 3: stuff before, and now they're looking at his entire core.
- 19:07Speaker 3: If you have a core problem, that's a season-ending injury. Now,
- 19:09Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's happening with Riley Moss, but the
- 19:12Speaker 3: fact that I've seen that they're looking at the overall
- 19:15Speaker 3: core on him, not good. That's not good news. But
- 19:18Speaker 3: you hope it's just going to be the same situation
- 19:21Speaker 3: as the others.
- 19:21Speaker 2: Who's this rando that just stepped into Nelly's chair?
- 19:24Speaker 3: That is Connor.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Watch yourself. I'm doing the show next week.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:29Speaker 2: Just got random.
- 19:30Speaker 3: What is this? I got a button right here, Vic.
- 19:33Speaker 2: It says off.
- 19:35Speaker 3: I like this kid. I like this.
- 19:38Speaker 2: Immediately.
- 19:38Speaker 3: What the hell is going on? I can turn your
- 19:40Speaker 3: mic off that quick. Watch yourself. That's Connor. Hi, Connor. So,
- 19:47Speaker 3: nothing seems too bad, right? But, again, my issue is this.
- 19:55Speaker 3: Chris Abrams, Drain, and Jotty Baron come in.
- 19:57Speaker 2: They play well.
- 19:58Speaker 3: They play well for Sertan and for Riley Moss. It's
- 20:00Speaker 3: great that you have depth like this. I don't know
- 20:02Speaker 3: any team, like, I don't really know any team ever
- 20:04Speaker 3: that has had the depth at corner that the Broncos have. So,
- 20:08Speaker 3: this came in handy. But Jadé Barron and Chris Abrams-Drain
- 20:14Speaker 3: are not Pats or Tan. They just aren't. And if
- 20:17Speaker 3: he exits the lineup, that changes the way that offenses
- 20:21Speaker 3: attack your team. If they thought that one half of
- 20:24Speaker 3: the field is now shut down because I can't go
- 20:27Speaker 3: there because Pats or Tan's over there, well, now that's
- 20:28Speaker 3: back open.
- 20:30Speaker 5: And.
- 20:31Speaker 3: If the strength of your team is secondary, and that's
- 20:33Speaker 3: what it's been this year through four weeks, if that
- 20:36Speaker 3: even takes a slight step down, it now puts more
- 20:39Speaker 3: pressure on an offense that has not performed well this year.
- 20:41Speaker 2: Well, follow me on this one. See if you can
- 20:43Speaker 2: follow me on this one. Tell me if you've heard
- 20:45Speaker 2: this one before. In a week where your defense is
- 20:50Speaker 2: weakened and vulnerable because you lose two of your starting corners,
- 20:53Speaker 2: both of them, in a week where your defense has
- 20:55Speaker 2: taken a turn for the worse, maybe it's time the
- 20:58Speaker 2: offense carries the load.
- 21:00Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you very much. Is that? No.
- 21:03Speaker 5: No. And I'm dead serious. Are we asking too much? Seriously,
- 21:10Speaker 5: are we asking too much for the offense to actually
- 21:14Speaker 5: do something and lead the way?
- 21:17Speaker 2: Who have the Chargers played? How many points have they
- 21:20Speaker 2: given up? And you tell me why it's not possible
- 21:22Speaker 2: for the Broncos offense to put up 30 against this team.
- 21:25Speaker 3: Vic, they should. They've given up 106 points. It's one
- 21:28Speaker 3: of the highest numbers in the league. Okay. Or in
- 21:29Speaker 3: the AFC.
- 21:30Speaker 2: So is it asking too much for the Broncos to
- 21:32Speaker 2: go in to L.A. at SoFi and put up 30
- 21:35Speaker 2: points and win the game? 30 will win you the game.
- 21:37Speaker 3: Here you go, Vic. They played the Cardinals, Raiders, Bills,
- 21:40Speaker 3: and Seahawks. They've given up 26, 26, 24, and 30.
- 21:44Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with asking that to happen. Listen, they're
- 21:47Speaker 5: in the bottom third of the league in run defense,
- 21:50Speaker 5: talking about the Chargers, in the middle of the pack
- 21:53Speaker 5: in passing defense.
- 21:55Speaker 3: They're just blah.
- 21:56Speaker 5: They're just kind of a blah football team with a
- 21:59Speaker 5: quarterback whose head is not on straight. So if you
- 22:02Speaker 5: can't go in there and beat that team, the Broncos,
- 22:06Speaker 5: what am I even talking about? Why am I even
- 22:07Speaker 5: saying this? The Broncos are going to win. They're a
- 22:11Speaker 5: favorite in this game. They're going to go in there.
- 22:14Speaker 5: The offense is going to kick it up a notch,
- 22:17Speaker 5: pull its own weight, actually lead the way, and they're
- 22:19Speaker 5: going to be 3-2. Simple enough.
- 22:26Speaker 3: You made a claim there. That's not even a claim.
- 22:28Speaker 3: It's a proclamation. You made a proclamation that I think
- 22:32Speaker 3: is certainly not based in fact. You said the offense
- 22:37Speaker 3: is going to figure it out.
- 22:40Speaker 5: That's wishful thinking, but I'm hoping that that is the case.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Look, man, the Chargers are 0-4. They're bleeding from every.
- 22:50Speaker 5: Wound they have.
- 22:51Speaker 3: You're about to say wound. No, wound.
- 22:54Speaker 5: From every wound they have. They're not a good team
- 22:58Speaker 5: right now. They're a mess between McDaniel and Herbert. Herbert
- 23:02Speaker 5: has six picks already.
- 23:04Speaker 3: On the season.
- 23:04Speaker 5: He's just playing incompetent football. Hampton's not really running the
- 23:10Speaker 5: ball that well. They're really not doing anything well with
- 23:13Speaker 5: the Chargers.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Can I give you something that may change your perspective
- 23:16Speaker 2: on the Denver Broncos? Listen up here, all right? Perspective
- 23:20Speaker 2: is a wonderful thing. I know we're down on the
- 23:22Speaker 2: Broncos right now. They came off a loss, and they
- 23:25Speaker 2: came off a loss the same way they've lost a
- 23:27Speaker 2: lot of games, where the offense doesn't do a damn thing.
- 23:29Speaker 3: I get it.
- 23:30Speaker 2: But sometimes perspective hits you in the face, Moj, like
- 23:33Speaker 2: 10 pounds of meat, okay? Consider who the Broncos have
- 23:37Speaker 2: played already. Consider their schedule. According to ESPN's Power Football Index,
- 23:44Speaker 2: I have no idea what the hell that is. But
- 23:46Speaker 2: according to that, the top five teams in the National
- 23:50Speaker 2: Football League right now, in order, San Francisco, have the
- 23:54Speaker 2: Broncos played them?
- 23:55Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Jacksonville's number two, have the Broncos played them? They have.
- 24:00Speaker 2: The Rams are number three, have the Broncos played them?
- 24:03Speaker 3: They've done that.
- 24:04Speaker 2: The Chiefs are number four. Have they been on the
- 24:07Speaker 2: Broncos schedule?
- 24:08Speaker 4: Yes.
- 24:09Speaker 2: And guess who is number five? The Broncos see them
- 24:12Speaker 2: in about 12 days. Seattle. So the top five teams,
- 24:17Speaker 2: according to this index, are on the Broncos schedule in
- 24:22Speaker 2: the first six games.
- 24:23Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:25Speaker 3: We knew that going into the season, that that's what
- 24:27Speaker 3: they were up against in the first six weeks. That's
- 24:29Speaker 3: why we were asking, and this is what's funny.
- 24:32Speaker 2: So maybe we're being too harsh. Maybe we're being overcritical.
- 24:37Speaker 3: Here's the difference, though. There is one separation. Because I
- 24:39Speaker 3: agree with you. I think it's important for Broncos fans
- 24:42Speaker 3: to keep perspective here. If you're asking them to go 3-3, well,
- 24:45Speaker 3: they're 2-2. They're on their way to 3-3. Like, they're
- 24:48Speaker 3: still right on pace for it. The difference is this.
- 24:54Speaker 3: We spent an entire offseason, Vic, talking about the offense
- 24:56Speaker 3: being different.
- 24:59Speaker 2: It's not.
- 25:01Speaker 3: And that's what's making people upset. Like, you were sold
- 25:04Speaker 3: that this offseason, new play caller, add Jalen Waddell. This
- 25:09Speaker 3: is going to be more explosive. The three and outs
- 25:11Speaker 3: are going to stop. And that's all the same.
- 25:14Speaker 2: So it's how you look. Not necessarily what you do.
- 25:16Speaker 2: It's how you look.
- 25:17Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think that people were, you know, like
- 25:22Speaker 3: a politician. I promise I will do this and this
- 25:24Speaker 3: and this. And then you're two years into his term
- 25:27Speaker 3: and you're like, where's all the things that you said
- 25:28Speaker 3: you were going to do? Because I don't see it.
- 25:31Speaker 3: This feels a lot like the same. So I just
- 25:34Speaker 3: think that's why people are upset. It's not so much
- 25:37Speaker 3: the record overall or who you've beaten or really how
- 25:40Speaker 3: you've won. It's just that the offense has not looked
- 25:44Speaker 3: any different than before. And in some ways looks worse
- 25:47Speaker 3: without a running game.
- 25:49Speaker 2: Am I wrong?
- 25:49Speaker 5: No, you're not wrong about that. I'm wondering if, when,
- 25:53Speaker 5: and how it will ever turn around, if it will
- 25:56Speaker 5: ever switch.
- 25:57Speaker 3: And how does that look?
- 25:59Speaker 2: Listen.
- 26:00Speaker 5: I'm telling you about the Chargers. They're not a very
- 26:02Speaker 5: good football team. If you can't get it going against them,
- 26:04Speaker 5: and you've seen their record and you just went over
- 26:08Speaker 5: the scores that they've given up so far this season,
- 26:10Speaker 5: if you can't get right against them, then who can
- 26:12Speaker 5: you get right against? Do you wait until the Panthers
- 26:14Speaker 5: in week 10 or whatever the heck it is? Not 10,
- 26:18Speaker 5: like 7? Do you wait 8? Is it the Dolphins
- 26:23Speaker 5: in week.
- 26:23Speaker 3: 14?
- 26:24Speaker 5: I mean, when does it kick up a notch?
- 26:28Speaker 3: There is.
- 26:29Speaker 5: Because you know what my fear is too, Brett? I
- 26:32Speaker 5: look at some of these games. I look at the Cardinals.
- 26:34Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, that's a dub.
- 26:35Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe it isn't.
- 26:41Speaker 5: Maybe the quirkiness catches up with you. I look at
- 26:43Speaker 5: the Panthers game on the road. Oh, that's a dub.
- 26:47Speaker 3: Yeah, well, maybe it ain't. You know, I just.
- 26:51Speaker 5: You can't just keep playing with fire and expecting it
- 26:53Speaker 5: to work out all the time.
- 26:54Speaker 3: Here's what's funny. Let me play some audio for you
- 26:58Speaker 3: in what I think is a similar situation. The Philadelphia
- 27:03Speaker 3: Eagles are pissed. Their fan base is. They hate their offense.
- 27:08Speaker 3: A lot of them are out on Jalen Hurts, a
- 27:11Speaker 3: Super Bowl winner. A lot of them are out on
- 27:13Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni, a Super Bowl winner. And the reason is
- 27:17Speaker 3: solely based upon their offense. Jalen Hurts finished last week
- 27:21Speaker 3: with under 100 passing yards in a football game. That
- 27:24Speaker 3: didn't involve a monsoon or insane wind or anything like that.
- 27:28Speaker 3: He finished under 100 passing yards. And it's been like
- 27:30Speaker 3: that for a minute. Here's how Eagles fans sounded after
- 27:34Speaker 3: last week.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Bad. Just bad.
- 27:35Speaker 4: Not it for us.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Just not it. So depressing. You should have won that game.
- 27:39Speaker 2: I didn't like it.
- 27:40Speaker 3: I mean, what would you waste time like? Man, I
- 27:44Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about. We got a lot
- 27:46Speaker 3: of people hurt, but there's no excuse.
- 27:48Speaker 5: It's just another excuse that you're going to use to say, hey,
- 27:51Speaker 5: we didn't have players and bad field positions.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Defense really didn't show up late in the game.
- 27:56Speaker 3: Offense had a lot of chances to score.
- 27:58Speaker 2: It is what it is.
- 27:59Speaker 7: Coach doesn't kick a field goal. Bad coaching again. Sirianni
- 28:03Speaker 7: blew the game again for the.
- 28:07Speaker 7: On most times.
- 28:08Speaker 3: We could have been up one point, up two points.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Nick Seriani. I'm sorry, Nick Seriani got to go.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Nick ain't it. Nick ain't it.
- 28:16Speaker 2: Nick is cute. He's angry.
- 28:19Speaker 3: He can scream, but he doesn't make the team come
- 28:23Speaker 3: out of halftime and be the team.
- 28:25Speaker 2: What's happening at halftime? Are we eating meatball subs?
- 28:28Speaker 3: You know what?
- 28:29Speaker 5: End of the day.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Go Birds. That's how they feel. What did that guy say?
- 28:34Speaker 3: I think he was trying to say for the umpteenth time.
- 28:37Speaker 2: And he went, ah. All right, so let me ask you.
- 28:42Speaker 3: If you couldn't tell, those guys were hammered, by the way.
- 28:43Speaker 2: What if we randomize Bronco fans who call into our.
- 28:47Speaker 3: What's that little voice game we have?
- 28:49Speaker 2: Little voice thing? Little voice contraption.
- 28:52Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on the Altitude Sports Radio app. It's powered
- 28:55Speaker 3: by the Wilhite Law Firm. Injury lawyers, go to WilhiteWins.com.
- 28:57Speaker 3: That's WilhiteWins.com.
- 28:58Speaker 2: How does that work?
- 29:00Speaker 3: You go on the app, and there's a microphone at
- 29:01Speaker 3: the bottom, and you hit the microphone, you send a message,
- 29:04Speaker 3: it goes straight to Nellie's ear holes.
- 29:05Speaker 2: And it sounds really good.
- 29:07Speaker 7: Sirianni blew the game again for the unsmosed times.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Sounds like a word we would use.
- 29:16Speaker 5: Unsmosed?
- 29:16Speaker 2: Unsmosed times.
- 29:18Speaker 3: But if you watch the video, hang on, I gotta
- 29:21Speaker 3: show you the video.
- 29:21Speaker 5: For the unsmosed times.
- 29:23Speaker 3: He glitches out. Like, it feels like his controller broke,
- 29:28Speaker 3: and he just went....
- 29:31Speaker 2: Most.
- 29:32Speaker 3: Hang on. But what are you trying to say with
- 29:34Speaker 3: Voice of the People, Vic?
- 29:36Speaker 2: Let's collect our own Bronco fans who I want to get.
- 29:40Speaker 2: I want to hear your unsposed reasons as to why
- 29:44Speaker 2: the Broncos are struggling offensively. Nick is cute.
- 29:47Speaker 5: Connor, you're new here. You need to earn your keep.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Nelly, have him cut up all these peeps that go
- 29:55Speaker 2: to the voice of the people.
- 29:56Speaker 3: How about that?
- 29:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:58Speaker 5: Wait, does that kid even know how to do that?
- 30:00Speaker 3: All right, hang on, hang on. Look at his face.
- 30:02Speaker 3: He has no idea. Watch this. This is the guy here.
- 30:04Speaker 3: This is the unsmosed time guy.
- 30:06Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 30:06Speaker 2: He's had a few.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Watch his face. He glitches. But the reason I bring
- 30:24Speaker 3: up the Eagles is this. The Eagles have had success.
- 30:28Speaker 3: The Broncos have had success. And they're still not happy
- 30:32Speaker 3: because the offensive product is junk.
- 30:35Speaker 2: It's terrible. Brett, when you get close or climb to
- 30:38Speaker 2: the mountain and you struggle, that's, I think, the angriest
- 30:43Speaker 2: a fan base can get, right? Do we agree there?
- 30:47Speaker 2: That's when a fan base is most anxious.
- 30:49Speaker 3: I've learned something over the last few years. I've gotten
- 30:52Speaker 3: to be a better golfer, and I hate it. Yes,
- 30:55Speaker 3: because now your expectations are ridiculous. For the first time
- 30:58Speaker 3: in my life— For two years, the Lions were decent
- 31:01Speaker 3: at football. And I hate it because now it's terrible
- 31:03Speaker 3: to watch. I'm mad all the time.
- 31:05Speaker 2: What a great comp. Very well done. But it's very
- 31:08Speaker 2: much that. When your team is used to winning and
- 31:12Speaker 2: winning big, and you've won big, then that's it. That's
- 31:15Speaker 2: the barometer. And anything else, well, they must suck. What's
- 31:19Speaker 2: happening at halftime?
- 31:20Speaker 3: Are we eating meatball subs? But here's the thing. The
- 31:25Speaker 3: reason I bring that up is for Philly. Jalen Hurts
- 31:29Speaker 3: in particular. He's a Super Bowl winner. You can't ask
- 31:32Speaker 3: the question, is Jalen Hurts good enough to win a
- 31:34Speaker 3: Super Bowl? It's happened already.
- 31:36Speaker 5: But he's not playing well.
- 31:38Speaker 3: But, Moj, they're on their fifth offensive coordinator with him,
- 31:42Speaker 3: and it's not because the guys are awesome and they
- 31:44Speaker 3: get jobs. And so you eventually have to ask, well,
- 31:47Speaker 3: there's one guy that's always here, and it's never working.
- 31:50Speaker 4: Right.
- 31:50Speaker 5: I guess you're starting to ask the question, too, was A.J.
- 31:53Speaker 2: Brown the good guy in this?
- 31:56Speaker 3: Or was he just correct? Was he just right?
- 31:59Speaker 5: That's what I mean. But I don't think, listen, some
- 32:01Speaker 5: of those people want to run Jalen Hurts out of town.
- 32:04Speaker 5: I don't think anybody wants to run Bo Nix out
- 32:06Speaker 5: of town. I did a straw poll in the appetizer.
- 32:10Speaker 3: There's some people that... You're kidding me. What do you consider... Moshe,
- 32:15Speaker 3: hang on, hang on. What would you consider I'm not
- 32:17Speaker 3: giving him a long-term contract? Yeah, Moshe, I mean, running
- 32:20Speaker 3: out of town is just sort of a use of
- 32:22Speaker 3: words here. I think the proper question is would you
- 32:25Speaker 3: Would you just pick up his 50-year option?
- 32:27Speaker 5: Yeah, but Vic, here's the problem. Like Brett's friend said,
- 32:33Speaker 5: it's in there. I've seen it. I've seen it in there.
- 32:38Speaker 5: I've seen it exposed.
- 32:40Speaker 2: Have you seen it for an entire game or have
- 32:41Speaker 2: you seen it just for portions of games?
- 32:43Speaker 3: I've seen it for portions of games.
- 32:45Speaker 2: All right, have you seen it for an entire game?
- 32:46Speaker 5: I've not seen it for an entire game, but I've
- 32:48Speaker 5: seen it in portions. And I'm like, that's there. And
- 32:52Speaker 5: why can't there be more of that? And listen, Sean Payton,
- 32:56Speaker 5: he just backed up my point. That cut we played earlier,
- 33:00Speaker 5: when he's on the run and this sort of thing,
- 33:03Speaker 5: what did he talk about? His mechanics. That's what I'm
- 33:08Speaker 5: talking about when I say when he's freewheeling. When he's
- 33:12Speaker 5: just playing football, he looks, acts, and performs at his best.
- 33:17Speaker 5: It's easy to see. I mean, you can use your eyeballs.
- 33:20Speaker 5: I don't need empirical data to back me up because
- 33:23Speaker 5: I know what I see. When he's playing like that,
- 33:26Speaker 5: kind of with his hair on fire, by far he's
- 33:28Speaker 5: the best. Why is he not like that way in
- 33:31Speaker 5: the first half?
- 33:33Speaker 2: I think he's also a product of the offense and
- 33:36Speaker 2: their commitment to running.
- 33:37Speaker 3: This is a great example.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Just real quick.
- 33:40Speaker 3: Just real quick. Texture says, Fellas, once Caleb Williams comes back,
- 33:45Speaker 3: Bajan becomes more expendable with Keesom playing well. Keesom. We
- 33:50Speaker 3: need to trade for Bajan to create some competition for
- 33:53Speaker 3: Bo Nix. Do you know what the Chicago Bears have?
- 33:57Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on. I'm going to give you a
- 33:58Speaker 3: stat that's going to blow you away. Do you know
- 34:01Speaker 3: what the Chicago Bears have this year?
- 34:02Speaker 2: They have a run game to die for.
- 34:04Speaker 3: The 7th and 8th leading rushers in the NFL are
- 34:08Speaker 3: the Bears running backs.
- 34:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they look so good. You're exactly right.
- 34:11Speaker 5: Well, they're the number one rushing team in the entire
- 34:13Speaker 5: national football league.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Hey, you hit it, man. The analogy that opened the show,
- 34:17Speaker 2: you know, some of us are blaming the chickens. Others
- 34:21Speaker 2: are blaming the eggs. But ultimately, the farmer has to
- 34:25Speaker 2: commit to the run game. The farmer has to set
- 34:27Speaker 2: them up for success and not failure.
- 34:29Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 34:30Speaker 2: You've got to give them some help. And help comes
- 34:32Speaker 2: in the form of, you know, I see a couple
- 34:34Speaker 2: stats here. Kansas City uses 12 personnel 30% of the time.
- 34:38Speaker 2: The Broncos, they don't do it 10%. You got to
- 34:42Speaker 2: get your tight ends in the game and block.
- 34:46Speaker 3: I thought you signed Troutman to a billion-dollar deal this
- 34:49Speaker 3: offseason because he can block. Now we're just not going
- 34:52Speaker 3: to use him? That's a great decision.
- 34:57Speaker 2: I keep vacillating between reasons, and it's bothering me.
- 35:01Speaker 5: What do you mean, eggs and chickens and farmers?
- 35:04Speaker 3: You know what shouldn't bother you? It's probably a little
- 35:06Speaker 3: bit of everything, Vic. Guys, $ 10 doesn't get you anything anymore.
- 35:11Speaker 3: Except on Tuesdays, where you can get any large pizza
- 35:14Speaker 3: from Papa Murphy's for just $ 10. It's a $ 10 Tuesday.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Order at PapaMurphy's.com. Pick it up. Bake it fresh at home.
- 35:20Speaker 3: $ 10 Tuesdays by Papa Murphy's. Back after this. All right,
- 35:24Speaker 3: Adam Schefter is going to join us at 920. I
- 35:26Speaker 3: need to talk about something, and Bill Simmons pointed this
- 35:31Speaker 3: out yesterday, and he's right. I'm tired of pretending this
- 35:34Speaker 3: isn't weird. That Ursae gal being on the sideline with
- 35:39Speaker 3: her notepad is just a weird thing. I'm tired of
- 35:43Speaker 3: us pretending like it's not. It is.
- 35:46Speaker 2: It is weird.
- 35:47Speaker 3: It is weird. Has any other owner ever stood on
- 35:50Speaker 3: the sidelines hovering over their coaching staff taking copious notes
- 35:53Speaker 3: like that? I've never seen it.
- 35:55Speaker 2: Yeah. Ultra note taker. That's ultra note taker.
- 35:58Speaker 3: What are you writing down? What is on the notepad?
- 36:01Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 36:03Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a bit much. I'm not going to lie
- 36:06Speaker 2: to you. If I'm sitting there on the sideline, I'm going, okay, what?
- 36:10Speaker 2: Can you just take mental notes? Maybe a note in
- 36:16Speaker 2: your phone? Hey, water bottles aren't big enough for the players.
- 36:20Speaker 2: Just a mental note.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Think about if Kroenke's sitting in that seat right there
- 36:24Speaker 3: as we're doing the show, and he's just writing things
- 36:26Speaker 3: down as we're talking. I'm like, what is this? And look,
- 36:31Speaker 3: God bless her. She obviously cares about her team. She
- 36:33Speaker 3: wants her team to do well.
- 36:34Speaker 5: Who's to say he's not wherever he is?
- 36:37Speaker 3: Taking notes during the show? We're at Kane. What up, Mr. K?
- 36:41Speaker 2: I support that.
- 36:43Speaker 3: Wait a minute, wait a minute. Here's one of his
- 36:45Speaker 3: notes from today.
- 36:45Speaker 2: You ready?
- 36:48Speaker 3: Mosher needs the little thing from Vic today. When will
- 36:53Speaker 3: they meet? I don't think they're going to get those notes. Hell,
- 36:58Speaker 3: record this.
- 36:59Speaker 5: And no offense. Look, man, my face is not the
- 37:02Speaker 5: prettiest in the world. But something about her eyeballs... on
- 37:07Speaker 5: the sideline. It's something about, she's just got this death stare.
- 37:11Speaker 3: It's just, I, she looks angry when she's doing it.
- 37:14Speaker 3: You're right.
- 37:14Speaker 2: It's like an angry note taker. You know, there's like,
- 37:17Speaker 2: there's this, this type of note taking like, and then
- 37:22Speaker 2: there's this.
- 37:25Speaker 3: Frantic.
- 37:26Speaker 5: She's probably a very nice person. I'm sure she is.
- 37:29Speaker 3: I just, I look, I, I'm not, that's all. That's all.
- 37:33Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Katie writes in Katie McKinley on the text line.
- 37:36Speaker 3: I love it.
- 37:37Speaker 2: She's a badass. Well, she might very well be one.
- 37:40Speaker 2: I don't dispute who or what she is.
- 37:42Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I think it's great. She obviously very
- 37:45Speaker 3: much cares about her team. That's what you want to
- 37:47Speaker 3: see from an owner. It is very weird, though.
- 37:50Speaker 2: It is weird.
- 37:53Speaker 3: You don't see owners just hovering on the sideline in
- 37:55Speaker 3: a starter jacket thinking, no, no, it's just not a thing.
- 37:58Speaker 5: Let me defend her in this regard.
- 38:01Speaker 3: She doesn't need defended. It's just weird. It's... No other
- 38:05Speaker 3: owner does it.
- 38:06Speaker 5: It's abnormal to what we think an owner should be
- 38:10Speaker 5: or what an owner should do.
- 38:12Speaker 2: She's just trying to learn.
- 38:13Speaker 5: Maybe she's drinking through a fire hose here.
- 38:16Speaker 3: Guys, stop making this about me. It's not a criticism.
- 38:22Speaker 4: It's odd.
- 38:23Speaker 2: It is odd.
- 38:25Speaker 3: There is no disputing it's odd.
- 38:27Speaker 2: I would love to read the notes.
- 38:29Speaker 3: That's what I want. I need somebody to do like
- 38:31Speaker 3: a drone. Just get over the top. Get over the
- 38:35Speaker 3: top and let me see what's on that notepad.
- 38:39Speaker 5: Well, you are nosy, aren't you?
- 38:41Speaker 3: I just want to say.
- 38:42Speaker 5: So now you're mouthy and nosy. Those are two qualities
- 38:45Speaker 5: that are not.
- 38:47Speaker 3: Good to have. You know what's really bad? When you're
- 38:49Speaker 3: playing a playoff baseball game and you have three errors
- 38:52Speaker 3: in the first inning. The Yankees were terrible yesterday. And
- 38:56Speaker 3: they're now down, if you guys have been paying attention
- 38:58Speaker 3: to the MLB postseason, the Yanks are down 2-0 to
- 39:02Speaker 3: Tampa Bay.
- 39:02Speaker 2: Remember.
- 39:03Speaker 3: I have to recheck this every year because I always
- 39:06Speaker 3: get confused by this. Wild card is three games. Divisional
- 39:09Speaker 3: round is five. And then it's seven and seven from
- 39:11Speaker 3: there on out.
- 39:11Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you say that. I didn't want
- 39:13Speaker 2: to sound dumb. I do that enough. But this has
- 39:17Speaker 2: changed so much. I don't know how many games are played.
- 39:20Speaker 2: And you have to keep looking.
- 39:22Speaker 5: So it's a five.
- 39:23Speaker 3: It's a five game series. Three, five, seven, seven. Five
- 39:25Speaker 3: game series. So the Yankees are one loss away from
- 39:28Speaker 3: being eliminated. As are.
- 39:29Speaker 2: The Padres.
- 39:31Speaker 3: As are the Padres. And guys, I am, I don't
- 39:36Speaker 3: know how you view this. This is how I take it.
- 39:39Speaker 3: I know everything surrounding a Rockies conversation is always like, oh,
- 39:43Speaker 3: the Rockies are terrible. It's always like droopy dog. The
- 39:49Speaker 3: White Sox are one win away from making it to
- 39:52Speaker 3: the ALCS after three consecutive Hunter loss seasons. After being
- 39:56Speaker 3: the laughingstock of the league.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Give it to me.
- 40:00Speaker 3: I am a Zippity!
- 40:01Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 40:03Speaker 3: They're one win away. So good. I tried to explain
- 40:07Speaker 3: this in the middle of the season with the Rockies
- 40:09Speaker 3: being bad. And people were like, this turnaround is going
- 40:11Speaker 3: to take four or five years. No, it doesn't. Baseball
- 40:14Speaker 3: does not take four or five years. It can be quick. Okay,
- 40:18Speaker 3: so how did they do it? The Rockies?
- 40:20Speaker 2: No, the White Sox. How did they do it?
- 40:23Speaker 3: Well, they went out and they, look, they couldn't hit
- 40:26Speaker 3: at all during their 100 loss seasons. They found some
- 40:29Speaker 3: guys that were more consistent at the plate. And I
- 40:31Speaker 3: think that they traded out maybe some, like Murakami is
- 40:37Speaker 3: not somebody who's going to hit 300, but they're like,
- 40:39Speaker 3: I will trade that for the occasional bomb.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Where'd they get him? I mean, is he an importer?
- 40:49Speaker 2: Did they trade him? Was he traded from another team?
- 40:53Speaker 3: Well, he's obviously from Japan. This is his first season
- 40:56Speaker 3: in the league. It's his first season in the league, Vic.
- 40:59Speaker 3: He's brand new.
- 41:00Speaker 2: My humble apologies. I don't know.
- 41:03Speaker 3: That's why I gave you the answer right there. He's Japanese.
- 41:06Speaker 5: He's from Kumamoto, Japan.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Okay, what about their pitching staff? Did they have a
- 41:12Speaker 2: sound pitching staff? At least a pitching staff that they
- 41:14Speaker 2: don't have to completely redo. Before they redid.
- 41:21Speaker 3: You're talking about from their 100-loss seasons to now?
- 41:23Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:24Speaker 3: Well, they had a good pitching staff this year, and
- 41:26Speaker 3: I think they made timely trades for a couple of
- 41:28Speaker 3: different guys. I mean, if you look at their staff,
- 41:31Speaker 3: you need to have, and this is what they got,
- 41:34Speaker 3: at least three guys that have a sub-4 ERA to
- 41:37Speaker 3: have a shot. I mean, you don't need Cam Schlittler
- 41:39Speaker 3: or guys like that or Mason Millers, but you need
- 41:42Speaker 3: to have people that are just consistent enough And a
- 41:45Speaker 3: guy like Sean Burke, was that for him? He had
- 41:47Speaker 3: a 3-3-4 ERA this year. But you go back to
- 41:49Speaker 3: previous seasons, they had the same problem that the Rockies did.
- 41:55Speaker 3: They had guys that had 5-8-2 ERAs that started 17
- 41:59Speaker 3: games for them. So you have to go out and
- 42:03Speaker 3: find reliable starting pitching. And this is why I'm... Look,
- 42:08Speaker 3: I'm always going to be an optimist with the Rockies
- 42:09Speaker 3: because I want them to, okay? It's not because I
- 42:12Speaker 3: think they will. I want them to. In defense of
- 42:16Speaker 3: DePodesta and what he did this last offseason, DePodesta found
- 42:20Speaker 3: players in the lineup. I think that they made a commitment,
- 42:23Speaker 3: and you could see it by who they acquired. They
- 42:26Speaker 3: acquired young players in trades. TJ Rumfield was a young
- 42:30Speaker 3: player that they got in a trade that turns out,
- 42:32Speaker 3: you know what? They hit on him. They have young
- 42:34Speaker 3: guys in their lineup that they trusted. What did they
- 42:37Speaker 3: do in their rotation? They went out and they got
- 42:40Speaker 3: Lorenzen and Shugano and guys who are 36, 38 years old.
- 42:44Speaker 3: They got old veteran guys who are like, I just
- 42:46Speaker 3: need somebody to get.
- 42:47Speaker 2: Us by this year.
- 42:47Speaker 5: Shugano wasn't that bad, dude.
- 42:49Speaker 3: No, Shugano was good, but he's old most is what
- 42:51Speaker 3: I'm saying. You're right.
- 42:52Speaker 2: Shugano was their best pitcher.
- 42:54Speaker 3: I know that. I'm saying he's old. That wasn't a
- 42:57Speaker 3: long-term decision to go out and get Shugano. That was
- 42:59Speaker 3: a bridge to get to next year. I think this
- 43:01Speaker 3: year is the one that they go out and address
- 43:03Speaker 3: the pitching staff in a big way. Why is Kyle
- 43:05Speaker 3: Freeland crying as he's leaving the field? Because he knows
- 43:08Speaker 3: it's done. Because they're going to go in a completely
- 43:11Speaker 3: other direction with their pitching staff. And I think they
- 43:13Speaker 3: made the commitment last year to fix their lineup and
- 43:17Speaker 3: get them youth, and now they're going to do that
- 43:19Speaker 3: with pitching. Thank you for doing that right in my mic.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like Japanese imports is the.
- 43:25Speaker 5: Way to go.
- 43:27Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like to me.
- 43:28Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what?
- 43:29Speaker 3: No, you could. I'd take one of those just because.
- 43:33Speaker 7: I.
- 43:33Speaker 3: I'll take one of those.
- 43:35Speaker 2: You always remember Kaz Matsui?
- 43:37Speaker 3: Absolutely, I do.
- 43:39Speaker 2: Do you remember the shot he had hit in game 163?
- 43:45Speaker 3: That was.
- 43:47Speaker 2: That was a deciding hit, wasn't it? Was he the
- 43:49Speaker 2: one that brought home Holiday? Was it Kaz?
- 43:53Speaker 3: Well, you sure it was him?
- 43:54Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm misremembering. Help me out, Texters.
- 44:00Speaker 3: Texters says, I love you, Brett, but the Rocks aren't
- 44:03Speaker 3: remotely close to where the Sox were coming out of
- 44:05Speaker 3: their 100-loss seasons. Yes, they are. They are. The Rockies
- 44:09Speaker 3: have an all-star... 40 home run catcher. They have a
- 44:14Speaker 3: first baseman that was up for rookie of the year.
- 44:16Speaker 3: Cole Kerrig looks like a stud. They have a number
- 44:19Speaker 3: of different people in their lineup that you, look, if
- 44:22Speaker 3: they had a pitching staff, that lineup is good enough
- 44:24Speaker 3: to do what the White Sox are doing in the postseason.
- 44:26Speaker 5: I don't know if it's that good.
- 44:30Speaker 2: Their lineup?
- 44:31Speaker 3: By the way, if they had a pitching staff.
- 44:35Speaker 5: Do you know how hard it's going to be to
- 44:36Speaker 5: compile a pitching staff for Coors Field?
- 44:39Speaker 3: Do you realize that, Brett?
- 44:40Speaker 5: Yeah. It's a different animal.
- 44:41Speaker 3: Do you have any sense of history at all?
- 44:43Speaker 2: See, I think the problem you have, Brett, because, you know,
- 44:46Speaker 2: you've only been here, what, 10 years now for crying
- 44:49Speaker 2: out loud. You still don't understand the effects Coors Field
- 44:52Speaker 2: has on pitchers. You just don't. You don't get it.
- 44:54Speaker 2: I do understand. And sometimes I have to slap him
- 44:57Speaker 2: across the face. Sometimes you have to be slapped. You
- 45:00Speaker 2: don't understand what it does to pitchers.
- 45:03Speaker 3: By the way, Vic. Over the long term, right?
- 45:05Speaker 2: I'm talking about it could change your entire approach to
- 45:08Speaker 2: pitching in one year.
- 45:09Speaker 3: Mechanics, everything. Sure, sure. But they're going to totally revamp
- 45:13Speaker 3: that staff. It's not Irman Marquez, and it's not Kyle Freeland,
- 45:17Speaker 3: and it's not Sensatella, who have been here for a decade.
- 45:22Speaker 3: It's new guys.
- 45:23Speaker 5: What?
- 45:24Speaker 2: By the way, it was Jamie Carroll. Thank you, texters
- 45:26Speaker 2: and twitchers. Jamie Carroll. Hit the shot that brought home Holland. Yeah,
- 45:29Speaker 2: but Matt Sui, when they were trailing in the bottom
- 45:31Speaker 2: of the 13. Yeah, he got the party started.
- 45:33Speaker 5: He hit a double to get the party started. And
- 45:36Speaker 5: you keep Marquez out of your mouth.
- 45:38Speaker 3: That's my boy.
- 45:39Speaker 5: Just because Coors Field ruined him doesn't mean he's a
- 45:41Speaker 5: bad person.
- 45:42Speaker 3: You said it takes a toll on people, but they
- 45:44Speaker 3: kept the same pitchers for like seven or eight years.
- 45:46Speaker 2: I would contend if you took that White Sox pitching staff,
- 45:49Speaker 2: put them in Colorado for a year, you would not
- 45:52Speaker 2: have the same results.
- 45:54Speaker 3: It would be different. Yes, it would be different.
- 45:58Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even close.
- 46:02Speaker 3: Here's what I don't accept, Vic.
- 46:03Speaker 2: See, but you're thinking I'm making this an excuse. It's
- 46:06Speaker 2: not an excuse. It is a simple scientific fact.
- 46:10Speaker 3: That's fine.
- 46:10Speaker 2: You become more fatigued here. You have to throw it
- 46:12Speaker 2: differently here. You don't rebound the same here. It's a
- 46:15Speaker 2: different pitching environment here.
- 46:18Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that, but you're saying this with
- 46:20Speaker 3: this air of what's the point? Like they'll never be
- 46:24Speaker 3: good because no pitcher's going to work here, and I
- 46:26Speaker 3: don't accept that. Not accepted. It's more difficult, yes. But
- 46:31Speaker 3: I don't accept that there's nothing that can be done.
- 46:34Speaker 3: The year they went to the.
- 46:35Speaker 2: World Series, they had, in the second half of the season,
- 46:38Speaker 2: the lowest ERA in the National League. Is that, Moj,
- 46:42Speaker 2: in the history of the Rockies, has that ever been equaled?
- 46:46Speaker 5: Not even close.
- 46:48Speaker 2: What does that tell you? Is that just coincidence?
- 46:52Speaker 5: No, no, it's a part of it.
- 46:54Speaker 2: It's a part of it.
- 46:55Speaker 3: We'll get back to it later.
- 46:56Speaker 7: 303-504-0925.
- 46:56Speaker 3: Back after this.