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Life And How To Live It The Book Series From Chaz Holesworth · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: your exploration. Hello and good morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Hello. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Doing very well, Chaz. I can tell by your vocal
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  Speaker 1: tones this is you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. This is me. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing how vocal tones as well as body
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  Speaker 1: language really does project a form of imaging that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people do not understand? But if they could,
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  Speaker 1: it would be such a more beautiful planet.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. People would be more expressive of themselves and confident
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  Speaker 2: and we would all have a better relationship, I think,
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  Speaker 2: all around.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm not doing too well in the thumb
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  Speaker 1: department in the way of understanding what people are saying,
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  Speaker 1: whatever they tap into that phone.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, right. A lot of times you misunderstand what
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  Speaker 2: people are trying to say by a text. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have sarcasm by a text, really. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to trade sarcasm.
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  Speaker 1: That is so true about that. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how many HR meetings I've been in because people said, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is what they thought you said.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. If you knew who I was, you'd know I
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  Speaker 2: didn't say that. I understand. Exactly. I was joking. God
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  Speaker 2: damn it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, which pretty much goes right into your book.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, life and how to live it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: because we, I swear to God, we don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to live it. It's a guessing game for so many
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  Speaker 1: people every day.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. It's definitely not a self-help book. How I lived
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  Speaker 2: my life. Like, there might be some morals in there,
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  Speaker 2: but it's really just, hey, this is the life that
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  Speaker 2: I was handed. And this is how I got through.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that's the way it was supposed to be, because,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought we were all out here and
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  Speaker 1: we're picking up our own journeys. And I mean, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how else would we be inspired by the
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Boone's of the world and all those other people
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  Speaker 1: if they if they went by a book?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yep. You got to go
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  Speaker 2: out and try. You got to live your own life
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  Speaker 2: and find your own way.
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  Speaker 1: How important is transparency? Because that's what I loved about
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  Speaker 1: your book. I'm going, Oh my God, he gave me
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  Speaker 1: an invitation to his charter writing it.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I decided that I was going to be upfront,
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  Speaker 2: honest and not hide anything. Um, I mean, when I
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  Speaker 2: first started writing, the first book was over 400 pages,
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  Speaker 2: and I was told by my editor, that's too much
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  Speaker 2: for somebody that nobody knows. I did leave out some stories,
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  Speaker 2: but they were just not that important stories. But everything
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about is brutal honesty. I'm not hiding anything.
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  Speaker 2: I decided to tell it like it was. with my
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  Speaker 2: own sense of humor and wit, but I'm just telling
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  Speaker 2: exactly what happened to me, and I decided that that's
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  Speaker 2: the best way. I'm an honest guy by default, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm an open book, literally.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what I love about it is that Julia Cameron
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  Speaker 1: in The Artist's Way always says that the reason why
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  Speaker 1: we have those magazines at a grocery store is to
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  Speaker 1: compare our lives. This really does give us a chance
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  Speaker 1: to put an identity on something that we might be
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  Speaker 1: going through, And when we do go through it, we'll go, Chaz,
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  Speaker 1: where's Chaz's book?
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  Speaker 2: Where's it at?
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  Speaker 1: Where's it at? Because I'm sure he went through it
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  Speaker 1: as well. And so you're giving us identity or something
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  Speaker 1: that says, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: You are not alone. Absolutely. That's what I'm hoping for.
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  Speaker 2: When people tell me they like my book and they say,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, I've been there, that's what I'm going for.
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  Speaker 2: I want to show everybody this is how it happened
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  Speaker 2: to me, but I also want people to find some
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  Speaker 2: kind of common ground in it. And even if they can't,
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  Speaker 2: even if there's times where they go, wow, that guy
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  Speaker 2: really had it bad, I hope they can see, well,
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  Speaker 2: if he made it through, I can do it. And also,
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  Speaker 2: I also want to entertain. So I'm telling these stories
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  Speaker 2: in a way where it's entertaining. Yeah. And also like
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  Speaker 2: a time capsule. Like I'm capturing the 80s and 90s.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm doing seven book series. And a lot of
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  Speaker 2: it's everything that happens from Woodstock 99 to 9-11 to
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  Speaker 2: President Trump. I'm going to write about everything that I
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  Speaker 2: saw where I was. It's almost like a Forrest Gump thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm one solid guy going through all this life, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm writing about it. And I'm hoping people will be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I remember that. Oh, yeah, I feel the same way.
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  Speaker 2: That was terrible. Or that music was great at that time.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm hoping people could find that kind of common
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  Speaker 2: ground with it, too.
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  Speaker 1: You know why this is so important, Chaz? Because our
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  Speaker 1: grandparents and parents aren't doing it. So, therefore, we have
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  Speaker 1: to have something. My mom and dad didn't leave me anything.
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  Speaker 1: And the only thing that I've got is my daily
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  Speaker 1: writing for the past 32 years. And it's not for me.
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  Speaker 1: It's for somebody that is way later on in life
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  Speaker 1: that's going to go, what was that numbskull doing on
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  Speaker 1: this particular day? Oh my God, he was alive during 9-11.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, let me read what he said because
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  Speaker 1: he was in radio at the time.
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  Speaker 2: That's all it is.
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  Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with me about me.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, and that's the thing. I also was– my parents
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  Speaker 2: never– in the book explained how my father was a
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  Speaker 2: heroin addict. We were in deep poverty. My mother dropped
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  Speaker 2: out of high school, 10th grade, because her mom said
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  Speaker 2: she didn't need to graduate high school because she was
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  Speaker 2: just going to be a housewife. Terrible. So then she
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  Speaker 2: became a born-again Christian because of how bad our life was.
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  Speaker 2: It was the only comfort she had. So that's how
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  Speaker 2: I was raised. And they don't have any, I'm nothing
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  Speaker 2: like they have no, we didn't have a car going on.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we live with my grandfather for years. Like
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  Speaker 2: they never owned property, never left me anything. Um, besides,
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  Speaker 2: you know, birth and then, uh, but a lot of,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of bad, a lot of bad situations, but
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  Speaker 2: I decided that, Hey, I'm going to do something with
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  Speaker 2: this instead of, uh, Just let it sit in my
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  Speaker 2: head for the rest of my life. I knew I
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  Speaker 2: had crazy stories, and I was telling people all my
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  Speaker 2: life these crazy stories at bars or parties, and they
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  Speaker 2: were all like, oh, my God, that's great. How did
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  Speaker 2: that happen to you? And so I remembered a lot
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  Speaker 2: of everything that happened to me growing up, and I
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  Speaker 2: decided after my sister passed away in 2019 of aggressive cancer.
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  Speaker 2: She died four months after being diagnosed at 45 years old. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God. Yeah, and it was at hospice that I
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  Speaker 2: watched her die. I got up there just in time
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  Speaker 2: in Maine. I was living in Pennsylvania, and I got there,
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  Speaker 2: and five minutes later, she passed away. And it just
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  Speaker 2: kind of shook me. And then you don't expect– like,
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  Speaker 2: my father passed away in 2009, and it was terrible.
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  Speaker 2: I was a mess. But your sibling, you don't expect–
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  Speaker 2: to go that early. So, and I, and I just,
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  Speaker 2: it happened. It was wild. So my own, my own
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  Speaker 2: mortality was that question. And then I hurt kids and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I felt bad for them and they just pushed me
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  Speaker 2: to an edge. So I, um, At the same time,
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  Speaker 2: while I was there in Maine, my wife stayed home
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  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania while I was going to a funeral up
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  Speaker 2: there for her because I didn't want her to be
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  Speaker 2: around the cult born-again religion that I was raised in
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  Speaker 2: because my sister was still in it. And she was
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  Speaker 2: married to a preacher out there, and everybody around me
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  Speaker 2: were born-againers, and they were all trying to use my
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  Speaker 2: sister's death. to reel me back in. That's all they
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  Speaker 2: ever want to do is bring you back to the fold.
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  Speaker 2: So that night I just went to a bar in Rockland,
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  Speaker 2: Maine and just talked to this girl that worked there
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  Speaker 2: and her friend. about this and that. And then they
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  Speaker 2: asked me, what are you doing here? I go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my sister just died and we had her funeral. They're like, what?
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing here? I was like, let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you some stories. I started laying out all these
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  Speaker 2: different things. Tears were coming out. It was the first
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  Speaker 2: time I started crying about my sister. And they were like,
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  Speaker 2: just feeding me beer. And then as I walked out
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  Speaker 2: the door when they were closing, I just, I just
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  Speaker 2: thought to myself, I remember looking down at my feet
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  Speaker 2: while I'm walking and thinking like, I got to do
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  Speaker 2: something with all this stuff in my head. So that's
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  Speaker 2: when I started writing and I didn't know what I
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  Speaker 2: was going to do with it. I just started writing memory,
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  Speaker 2: like whatever, whatever happened. That's when I said, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to be totally honest. And then eventually when I went
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  Speaker 2: to go edit it, my editor's like, well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: No one's going to want to read a War and
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  Speaker 2: Peace-sized book about somebody. So he's like, why don't you
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  Speaker 2: do installments instead? And then that's when I decided that's smart.
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  Speaker 2: So then my goal is to have seven books, and
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  Speaker 2: each one ends a significant time in my life. then
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  Speaker 2: the next one picks up right after that one. So
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be a study of one guy born
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  Speaker 2: into nothing, then finally getting through life and having some
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  Speaker 2: kind of wisdom. And I just hope that it helps
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  Speaker 2: people that way, but also entertains people.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't move. There's more with Chaz Holdsworth coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: The name of the book is Life and How to
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  Speaker 1: Live It. It's part of a series from Chaz Holsworth.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back into that talk. Let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 1: This is between you and me and the listeners can
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  Speaker 1: bop in only because they're here right now. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to ask you a very personal question. I did
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  Speaker 1: the same thing with the books, books one and two.
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  Speaker 1: And then this thing called podcasting came along and book
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  Speaker 1: three didn't happen. And the reason why book three didn't
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  Speaker 1: happen is because I felt like the podcasting was going
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  Speaker 1: to be the answer. So from one creative person to another,
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  Speaker 1: if you elect to go to the podcasting, please keep
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  Speaker 1: your door open. as that writer where I did not.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the thing that, that I really want to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of invite into your heart because I
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  Speaker 1: love your words. I love holding your book. I love
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  Speaker 1: everything that's on that page. And I'm so afraid that
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  Speaker 1: if you go to the podcasting that, that the writer
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  Speaker 1: in you is going to be going, where is my
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  Speaker 1: attention that you once gave me?
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  Speaker 2: Chaz. Got you. That's not a problem because I'm almost
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  Speaker 2: done with the series. Good. I'm on book six now.
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  Speaker 2: Book three is already edited and ready to go. Four
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  Speaker 2: is being edited now. Five is sitting there. God bless you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm doing it. I'm just going to not stop.
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  Speaker 2: In 2019, when my sister died, my motivation was like, nope,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to stop doing this. I got to
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  Speaker 2: do it. And then COVID hit. I was an essential worker,
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  Speaker 2: so I worked hard.
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  Speaker 1: And wrote.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. I didn't get to go to concerts. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't get to go to baseball games. I didn't get
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  Speaker 2: to go to bars, parties. It was just live my
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  Speaker 2: past on paper and work. And it was hard. But
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  Speaker 2: I just kept on doing it because I had to
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  Speaker 2: do it. And I just knew that once I was done,
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  Speaker 2: I would feel more accomplished. And when I started putting
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  Speaker 2: them out, I did. I felt like I literally closed
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  Speaker 2: chapters on things that were bothering me for so long. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that I wanted to cover,
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  Speaker 1: and you're the one that brought it up here just
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  Speaker 1: a couple of seconds ago because we talked about identity.
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  Speaker 1: When you talked about being raised by your grandfather or
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  Speaker 1: living with your grandfather, that is exactly what is going
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  Speaker 1: on in this world today. Now, how do I do that?
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  Speaker 1: Because I work at a grocery store. I see the
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  Speaker 1: grandparents with the kids. This book is going to be
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  Speaker 1: an identity for them because who wants to grow up
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  Speaker 1: with their grandparents?
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, they love the hell out of you
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to spoil the crap out of you.
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  Speaker 1: And second of all, if that is the man or
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  Speaker 1: the woman that I need in my life to give
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  Speaker 1: me that foundation, my God, Chaz, you're so far ahead
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  Speaker 1: of the game in opening up that door for people
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  Speaker 1: to grow forward.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing. My grandfather raised my dad.
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  Speaker 2: So my dad's dad was, I write in a book,
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  Speaker 2: he was a bad guy. He beat my grandmom up,
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  Speaker 2: in and out of jail, drug addict. But then he
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  Speaker 2: ran with gangs. He was just no good. And he
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  Speaker 2: was in and out of my dad's life. So my
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  Speaker 2: grandmom divorced my dad's dad and got remarried to a
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  Speaker 2: wonderful guy named Russ and had six kids. My dad
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  Speaker 2: felt like he was the only one that wasn't with, uh, Russ, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the Russ family. So he felt he didn't belong. So he,
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  Speaker 2: he asked to live with his grandfather in Kensington and
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  Speaker 2: he did. And my, and my grandfather raised them. And
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  Speaker 2: then when we were born, uh, because of poverty reasons, we,
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  Speaker 2: we live with my grand, my grandfather. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, like you learn a lot more from
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  Speaker 2: that generation. Like he's a world, world war two vet,
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  Speaker 2: things like that. Um, Yeah, but these days, definitely, people
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  Speaker 2: need that culture. like that culture influence on them because
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  Speaker 2: right now like this generation is raised on phones and
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  Speaker 2: internet and and at one time there's gonna I'm scared
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  Speaker 2: that there's gonna be a whole generation that won't know
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  Speaker 2: if AI pictures are real or not that's right I'm
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  Speaker 2: already there I'm scared yeah it's like I'm scared it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be like no no Kennedy Kennedy did this look
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  Speaker 2: I have this picture and they're not gonna know that
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't real and then that's why I feel like
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  Speaker 2: we do need that older generation that I feel like
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  Speaker 2: my books also, especially they go forward. I'm like the, my,
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  Speaker 2: we're like the last generation of, day before the technology
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  Speaker 2: uh took over yep so i i talk about all
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  Speaker 2: these things that like you know watching mtv listening to
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  Speaker 2: uh cds having to go to a cd store or
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  Speaker 2: how to camp out for tickets for a concert you
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  Speaker 2: want to go to um wanting to having a pager
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  Speaker 2: so they can page you so you can meet up
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  Speaker 2: pay phones Like all these things that, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: took for granted. That was our way of getting through life.
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  Speaker 2: And now they, like, I tell people about albums. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I remember going at midnight to a store to get
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  Speaker 2: my favorite band's album because it was coming out. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you just go on your phone. It's like, ah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like MTV was so important to me. for us because
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  Speaker 2: there was like maybe one or two there was probably
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  Speaker 2: two good radio stations in Philadelphia that you can get
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  Speaker 2: music from. And then MTV was like, all right, this
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  Speaker 2: is the bands you want to know about. Even if
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  Speaker 2: you watched only the late night stuff, like 120 Minutes
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  Speaker 2: or Alternative Nation or the Headbangers Ball, whatever, MTV Raps,
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  Speaker 2: the stuff you like, you'd watch that and learn about
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  Speaker 2: all these bands. And nowadays, with all the streaming, there's
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  Speaker 2: so many bands. I can't even keep up. but it
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  Speaker 2: feels like they don't filter them like they did before.
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  Speaker 2: Like I would know this band, this band, let me think,
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  Speaker 2: Failure or Radiohead. When I first heard Radiohead, I knew
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  Speaker 2: they were great because they were better than, because I
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  Speaker 2: saw them on MTV 120 Minutes. I'm like, this band's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this generation is more, they take, everything's
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  Speaker 2: instant gratification. Yep. And I just feel like that's that
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  Speaker 2: we need that mindset of like, hey, because there's this
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  Speaker 2: theory that like every 80 years, the civilization forgets about
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  Speaker 2: the past and it repeats. And, you know, we don't
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  Speaker 2: want we don't want another depression. We don't want another
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  Speaker 2: world war. And we need the influence of the greatest
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  Speaker 2: generation and the ones after that that can tell, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we should. Avoid this. Avoid that. That's not true. That
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  Speaker 2: wisdom that goes beyond the internet conspiracy theorist stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: have friends that just went down the rabbit hole of
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  Speaker 2: internet conspiracy theories. I'm scared there's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: whole generation that's going to think that way. instead of
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  Speaker 2: listening to people that have been there or are real
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  Speaker 2: science or real history. And we need, we definitely need
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  Speaker 2: that influence in our lives.
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  Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in
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  Speaker 1: the future. My God, I could talk with you all
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  Speaker 1: fricking day, dude. Oh my God. Where, where can go,
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  Speaker 1: where can people go to find out more about you?
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  Speaker 2: Um, so my website is Chaz Holsworth books.com. That's C
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  Speaker 2: H A Z. H-O-L-E-S-W-O-R-T-H-B-O-O-K-S.com. From there, you can read about me,
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  Speaker 2: read about some of the blogs, some of the awards
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  Speaker 2: I've won, read more about my books. That will send
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: you the links where people can buy them through Amazon,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Barnes & Noble, other independent bookstores, stuff like that. And
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: then from there, if you don't want to Google me,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: they can find my Instagram or Facebook. That's it.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Well, please come back to this show anytime in the future, dude.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: The door is always going to be open for you.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: All right, man. I appreciate it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: You be brilliant, and please take care of that heart
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: because it's in the right place at the right time.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: You have no idea, but somebody from the outside here
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: has read this now, and it's going, yep, you're in
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: the right place at the right time.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I just want to connect with people.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: You bet.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Be a great guy.