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Tee Time w Robyn "The Overreaction Season" · Built In Buffalo Podcast Network

0:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on.
0:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got to make that look.
0:13
[SPEAKER_02]: What is everyone in this tea time with Robin?
0:16
[SPEAKER_02]: We are on a building on that work.
0:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to make that longer because I don't know what's going on and it's not hot today.
0:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not hot actually.
0:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's sweater weather.
0:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It's sweater weather here in Buffalo and I love it.
0:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that it's it feels so much like fall.
0:34
[SPEAKER_00]: How are you going, Robin?
0:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was a hundred and two here yesterday.
0:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm thinking today we're going to be really grateful that it's only supposed to be in the high eighties.
0:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're we're starting to see that that turn.
0:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to come and it's going to hit us hard.
0:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm ready.
0:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready.
0:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready.
0:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so ready.
0:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't, I don't want to summer to be over.
0:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're saying in the back channels that busy summer for
1:03
[SPEAKER_02]: The estels, I love it, but we're lining down next week's school starts.
1:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so happy.
1:11
[SPEAKER_02]: It's our going back to school.
1:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes.
1:17
[SPEAKER_02]: But we're going to get into it.
1:18
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a, I'm sorry, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In football season.
1:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, all that.
1:23
[SPEAKER_02]: My kids got their run cost country and my sons, both of my sons, and maybe my daughter, many playing flag football.
1:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're just going to be very exciting.
1:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that I think of it, nothing's going to slow down, isn't it?
1:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You tell yourself that though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just say no.
1:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, all right, just go with it.
1:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But going into this episode, we have a lot to talk about because that was not polished and I don't know.
1:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't like that bearer's game?
1:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like it.
1:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know how to tackle.
1:54
[SPEAKER_02]: put up this episode because I don't know what that was out there and I'd get it as a preseason.
2:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you didn't know the second preseason game against the bears, the bills did not score.
2:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It was zero to thirty eight.
2:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And let me tell you Robin.
2:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So I play squares, whatever, and my numbers was I needed the bills just the kick of feel, though, and the bears had thirty eight.
2:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just needed them in school.
2:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I touched down and for me to win some money.
2:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And they couldn't do that when the guy lined up for the field, I was like, oh, I'm about to win some money.
2:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it went.
2:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it went.
2:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it went.
2:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, yeah, ah, yeah, I'm turning this off.
2:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So I turned it off.
2:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's slow.
2:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it like anything that could pass?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
2:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It was nasty, so let's get into it.
2:58
[SPEAKER_02]: We know, preseason is about evaluations, yes, for sure, reps, starters, not getting in.
3:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And if they do get in, it's only for a time being.
3:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the best of the bills went into this training camp about like, I'm not, we're not really doing anything.
3:16
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna get this guys, these guys, these reps what they need.
3:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I did hear that Fridays, joint practice was more important to shop at German because of the starters getting those reps.
3:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So I asked you, what happened Robin?
3:42
[SPEAKER_02]: What happened on Sunday, seriously?
3:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Seriously, the one thing, and I wrote about this in the blog in my post-game autopsy that I'm doing every week, probably, there was obviously, and people have to remember this, the coach Ben Johnson,
4:06
[SPEAKER_00]: rookie coach okay got a new team and he's a rookie rookie head coach because he hasn't been ahead coach anywhere else so he's really rookie rookie and rookie rookie had an agenda oh slowly push the starters out there for quite a while and there was a game plan and I believe the goals
4:32
[SPEAKER_00]: We're very different in this game between what Chicago was trying to do, which was win the game and show everybody that they're big time stuff now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Sean McDermott's goal, which was get the bottom half of the roster out there and see who's going to show anything.
4:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So their goals were completely different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This, this is why I don't like preseason at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll get into this later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't like it the way that it's structured because of that because the goals are so different in a preseason game.
5:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's no game planning and there's all of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just, we'll talk about it later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, my, my short answer is no, this game you could not take seriously at all.
5:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the one thing I could take seriously, excuse me, is execution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some players did not execute well.
5:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did not make a good case for themselves, the other fifty three-man roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll talk about going into the individual players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, I don't think this preseason game should be taken seriously at all.
5:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I'm hearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get, I get people's frustration.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was frustrating watching it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was not a good watch, not a good up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And normally I put their game on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching the Texans and the Freakin' Panthers play right now because I cannot go back and watch that preseason game against the bears and the bills.
6:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I, to waste a time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know, I take the old, it's only preseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will not, you know, I'm not gonna get over
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, to overreactionary when it comes to a preseason game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is Bill's mafia?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of you guys are just tripping.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like some of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you guys, it's just like, oh, and I will see what I mean.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Share, shove it down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
6:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not so medium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a place like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I like check my feed and I'm like, oh, scrolling, right?
6:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
6:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, I didn't have them prepared against.
6:51
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm talking about?
6:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you are a shaman-dermit hater, the first thing that you're going to do is blame shaman-dermit.
6:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Forget it.
6:59
[SPEAKER_02]: For every show I stopped my toll.
7:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Shaman-dermit should have built the house.
7:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It was better than it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I'll get it.
7:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, put the blame on the blame on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could tell that these guys didn't take this thing to serious when you had
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[SPEAKER_02]: quarterback, what's the name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Comer team, what's his name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a put retainer.
7:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God, why can I think of his name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Coverageton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Coverageton, out there as a cornerback robbing.
7:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, that's his position supposedly.
7:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
7:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You ever known him to come out to play cornerback.
7:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was lined up against their number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: essentially the point so what do you expect to have happened under those circumstances and Ben Johnson wanted this he wanted the casual fans to think oh look at what they did to the bills well
8:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, everybody would look good against the bottom half of our roster the way they played.
8:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And they did not play well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's saying that the bills were affected by any stretch of the imagination.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the point is, you couldn't, and this is what we're talking about in terms of preseason games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't even get a good evaluation if you've got the threes against the ones.
8:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was just, and I,
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The next day is a nasty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't even maneuver through stuff because you're just faced with the shaman, they're not prepared.
8:46
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like, let me, can I get this out the way and see what's really going on here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I really want to see, or even hear what Bobby Batot has to say with shaman.
8:58
[SPEAKER_02]: You could tell shaman during was upset because
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a sloppy football game for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not here to say it was a great game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was you know, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a sloppy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was not fundamentals at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was no execution out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of the things that Sean McDermott preaches, it wasn't out there at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it wasn't even.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't seem like the Buffalo Bills.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll say second in thirteen was not prepared to play because prior to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When we're going to talk about that,
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had a great Friday joint practice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one thing I just want to add to what you're saying, because it's right on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing that they did is they put poor Mike white out there with the offensive line that the programmer had going, he had Chris Lund playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the way from left tackle.
10:01
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the way around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll corroborate was doing and this is the point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All he was doing was trying to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this guy, can he play this position?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can he play this position?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can he play this position?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you can imagine with an offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you expect to have happen on offense when you're moving guys around like that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I think a joint practice, a scrimmage, whatever, is probably more effective than that.
10:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that was awful.
10:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think for him,
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[SPEAKER_02]: For him, I thought he did well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He absolutely did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Chromer got the information he was looking for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't expect Mike White to be able to do anything behind an offensive line that's being moved around like chess pieces.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially Mike White who is not very, he's not mobile.
10:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not mobile.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, I can't even get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then their wide receivers didn't help him out either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, John.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Please like and share if you haven't done it already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Please tell your friend, tell your mom, tell somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell your mom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to starve hero.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He, he does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He definitely does.
11:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's talk about some guys that we were high on coming into this, um, yeah, free season.
11:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And now that they put the pads on, I don't know what Derek Foster is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where is Derek?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And has he is an MIA like, what is going on?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because the safety plate is overwhelming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know where he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Derek Forest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our forest, did I say foster about that forest?
11:44
[SPEAKER_00]: No, Biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Derek Forest, even Joe Moreno on lockdown bills mentioned him as somebody he was curious to look at looking forward to seeing him in in high praise coming into this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And where is he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I have get to hear one media person even talk about him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a Saint Fisher, Saint John Fisher's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This was before the pads came on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were saying it's flying around, just in the third.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And all of a sudden, just stopped.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, is he injured?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not on the injury point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, but we're not hearing a word about the only thing that I can surmise from that to be honest, T is that this guy may not be able to grasp the system.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It may be a thing where you know McDermott was a safety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So McDermott, that's a position near and dear to his heart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if he feels like, okay, this is too much for this guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't handle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: how this safety position works in his defense, which is different than other defenses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It made me that very well, because no, he's been mentioned his name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was surprised that a media person, since we're talking about safety so much, hasn't asked Sean McDermott directly about him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or Bobby Babbage, like, and Bobby Babbage's president is going to tie us into coal bishop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bobby Babbage's pressure, pressure,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was sale that really I love when he talks because he is so he gives you the end depth of how he's thinking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He asked him about coal bishop and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mike a hide and he asked him so who do you who would you think would be in the box and it's in a third and he said I get it he said but we are not trying to do that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're more of space defense like you got to know what you need to be and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just thought it was a brilliant, how he broke it down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, getting into cold bishop and by saying that they want someone who knows this defense and this book and all of that, cold bishop, let's be honest, it's cold bishop into my helmet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's going, and when he said, we shall determine, we need to see who's going to be beside, play beside Tyler Rapp, and you were just like, oh, shit, cold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like, bro, they went up to get you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is why I'm kind of giving them grace and it's just me as a Bill's fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not Shamic Derman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not Bobby Babich.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're over the grace period when it comes to him because you need to get in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Shamic Derman in so many words is frustrated with it because talk was running out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything you said plus I would only add that, well, who are you going to get other than coal bishop for that position?
15:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the entire winter practically living with Taylor rap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that he could learn this defense so that he could make it
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[SPEAKER_00]: His own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe he's ready to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the frustration comes from the lack of reps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not from like I wonder about Derek Forest getting back to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like why why are they not trying him out more?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's because they really want
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cole Bishop to step up to play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're giving them all of the opportunities, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we know that Cole Bishop is on a snap count.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just found that out with Charlotte Derman as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But.
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[SPEAKER_02]: also to snap count, but also to I'm putting you in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I give me the steps and so we can't evaluate him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Joe Marino on a lockdown bill's podcast mentioned that Cole Bishop, even though he's
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[SPEAKER_00]: not got a lot of practice time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the one, he's the air apparent, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's supposed to take over this role.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He missed so much time that you don't know what you have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Joe has sent me to comparison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was kind of interesting to Terrell Bernard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because we didn't know what we had in Terrible Bernard last year either, because he was injured, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden he goes in, we're all freaking out, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's this guy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's gonna, we traded for Maine, he's gone, and you're talking about, we got the guy, we kept saying that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We think we have the guy on the team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're like, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, who
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's going into a second contract.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so maybe as Joe pointed out, this is the issue with coal bishop, right?
17:17
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what we have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They moved up in the second round to get him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a ball hawk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember watching him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was Utah, Utah State that he played for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was an animal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he just needs to get out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I expect him, yes, I expect him to play against Tampa because he needs to.
17:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But of course, the deal and we know this was safeties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you have to read each other's minds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to put Taylor rap out there too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's probably a good idea, but Cole Bishop needs the reps.
17:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But against the Ravens, when we start going in this game, start toning, they haven't played together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't played together that much, wrap and bishop.
18:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know they look good together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They look better then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, they look better than than tomorrow in Taylor rap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we know tomorrow is limited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his upside is not much more than what we saw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's, he's the backup and no disrespect to tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: None at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he played well in some games and I think him for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just, we need a better.
18:39
[SPEAKER_00]: The game against Paris was not his best game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it was not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not good.
18:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It was not good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm even on how to evaluate him because it's like we we know players is like it's free season y'all we had a great again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We had a great joy practice with them on Friday and we know what we did and now we're going to play this this game which it really doesn't really mean too much and I don't want to think that they're half asking I don't want to believe that as a fan because
19:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you play, you practice how you play.
19:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I say that to my players all the time.
19:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop half as in practice because those things go on to real life games.
19:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to say, I don't want to think that's what they're doing.
19:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But tomorrow is just not it.
19:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
19:36
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not it.
19:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He is definitely your safety blanket when you're when you're starting safety is down.
19:44
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so let's move on to our other guy that I have very, very high hopes for delaying Carter, delaying Carter, delaying.
19:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello.
19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are you, Duane?
19:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And I get they're trying to make Duane into something that he may not be in.
20:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And me and you, his whole offseason was saying, what are you guys doing?
20:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead, Robert.
20:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you have a lot to say.
20:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah.
20:12
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, it's the old when you're playing at the very end of a preseason game.
20:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You know you're in the dog house.
20:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And this guy, we're just going to have to talk about it because this guy was a third round draft pick.
20:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they went.
20:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
20:35
[SPEAKER_02]: This was my whole thing with the Wayne Carter because we swapped.
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: If they got worthy, we got the wing.
20:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And my whole thing was going to be like, thank you, cheese for the Wayne Carter.
20:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Look what he's doing.
20:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's not doing anything.
20:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the big question here is, and I'm just going to say it, does do we finally, at some point, have a discussion about the
21:11
[SPEAKER_00]: not so great drafting that's been done.
21:13
[SPEAKER_00]: When it comes to higher round earlier around draft picks, the failures that we've seen is that about though.
21:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it, is it scouting, if you know what I'm saying, because there's some some players that we had a cheap side track.
21:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe and Dreson.
21:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So who was the other UB guy that came out and now is balling?
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
22:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think no one's ever gonna do it, but you know, they may.
22:10
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's ever gonna say, hey, what's going on without scouting?
22:17
[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on with our draft pitch?
22:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Why did you do the Wayne Carter?
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when you got him, you're switching him from.
22:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
22:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So you already had it all over, right?
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're drafting another three technique.
22:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I so the way when he came in was a one or three.
22:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he played three for for I think it was Duke he came from.
22:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so now he's they're changing them to a one.
22:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, look at what happened when they tried to mess with AJ happiness is body.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He comes in.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They tell him to lose weight.
22:57
[SPEAKER_00]: He loses lost weight.
22:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, and see, this is what I remember, Brianna being saying this.
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is what prompted our discussions some months ago.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: They were trying to move Dwayne Carter to a one because Brianna means comment was, well, Dwayne's best chance to stay on the roster is to move to the one technique.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And
23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not one technique, guys.
23:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
23:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
23:28
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
23:29
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not.
23:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not.
23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not.
23:34
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not.
23:36
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He zig's when he's supposed to Zag.
23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to say that about remain admins, you know, going the wrong direction.
23:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
23:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't have any flash plays or nothing like that.
23:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love, I love me some, a remain.
23:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would just thought it was just, he was just a freak out there.
23:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But he also has, and you can't teach instincts.
23:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And he didn't have them.
24:00
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't have them.
24:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm watching you.
24:02
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have them.
24:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have them either.
24:04
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is not on the docket.
24:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But Mike, and we talked about body changing in Eponesa in Duane Carter.
24:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Another person whose body is changed is Ray Davis.
24:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Ray Davis lost twenty pounds.
24:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
24:17
[SPEAKER_02]: No longer a bruiser.
24:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, was that something, I didn't hear if that's something that they wanted him to do or he did it on his own.
24:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but it'll be interesting to see if that weight change does anything to his, his ability to,
24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: run the ball the way he used to.
24:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he was bigger than James.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: What are we going to have another James Cook here or what?
24:42
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but we don't need another James Cook.
24:45
[SPEAKER_02]: James, James is here.
24:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So you could put the white back on and be who you were.
24:52
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
24:53
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hesitant to say anything because of the way they were mucking around with the offensive line.
25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's so, it was, that does make it so hard to evaluate these other players.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I'm not, I'm not fond of the preseason, the way that it's set up to me at all.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But Dwayne Carter, back to Dwayne, Dwayne will be lucky.
25:18
[SPEAKER_00]: to be on the practice squad this year.
25:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's crazy to say, well, at some point during the offseason, you and I are going to have to sit down and visit this draft.
25:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to do that.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:38
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be that would be definitely interested to look into.
25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't made a now and there's been enough earlier round mistakes that have been made that I think it does call into question.
25:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll say this.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Brandon Bean said it and I believe it's true.
26:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Historically, if you hit on half your draft picks,
26:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You're doing good and he's I'm not he has he has he's better in the later rounds.
26:11
[SPEAKER_00]: We do that we're in the later written mid to later rounds.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we do in the early rounds.
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so frustrating.
26:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, a little more in Christopher.
26:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Um.
26:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot my trainer thought because I was thinking about the draft and then I'll talk to about I was thinking about Elon.
26:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's doing, I guess he's a starter in Dallas.
26:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was another draft pick that we were like, oh, what's that about?
26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a press man.
26:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but they'll figure it out.
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Something they're not in that defense.
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He was not a good fit.
26:44
[SPEAKER_02]: No, do very well.
26:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And if anything, and I think he's going to well, I'm with you.
26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to do very well.
26:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
26:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I also believe, like Brandon Bean is said, he's, he gets anxious and antsy.
26:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when he's, and that pick, that Elon pick was one of the picks that you were like, oh, you were just, your guy left.
27:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you just like, let me grab that guy right now.
27:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't, this is not groceries.
27:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can just like, you know, whatever, but still,
27:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking on some, I guess some, there is again.
27:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, Robin, the last three shots we've come on here.
27:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, I don't know.
27:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
27:33
[SPEAKER_00]: We can count on this, right?
27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we can count on this.
27:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's our guy.
27:37
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: We have to be in.
27:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
27:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Van Martin.
27:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Van, Van, the Mark, what's the name?
27:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Van, Van, Van.
27:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Van, Van, Van.
27:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
27:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a vet.
27:50
[SPEAKER_02]: But he didn't look like a vet out there.
27:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'd get again.
27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: The woman was just jacking everybody around.
27:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's hard when you've got all these other players, you know, plugged in like that.
28:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm giving him a pass on that.
28:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's played very well when he's had to play.
28:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have any problem with Vanderbilt.
28:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And if anyone needs a line,
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: player, he might be on the chopping block.
28:23
[SPEAKER_02]: He might be a good tray from someone.
28:29
[SPEAKER_02]: We gotta get it to, no, we're gonna do some good.
28:34
[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna do some good.
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do some good.
28:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do some good.
28:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Some good that did come out of this is that Shafer had another solid game, another solid.
28:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how
28:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to keep this guy off of the fifty three.
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: But, Shamed over, Dick came out on his personal set that he does.
28:57
[SPEAKER_02]: He knows he has one, two, and three.
29:01
[SPEAKER_02]: But he doesn't know about three, four, five, six, and maybe seven.
29:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like seven.
29:08
[SPEAKER_02]: You've never done that.
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But you've got three, solid.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And now,
29:18
[SPEAKER_02]: They're talking about bringing in our, an old familiar face, gay Davis.
29:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'll have to ask you this.
29:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna ask Mike, but I'm gonna ask you to.
29:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Is gay Davis right now better than the four, five, six, and seven, why we see her on the bills?
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, that's a good question.
29:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first of all, we don't know what his physical status is.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still recovering from a serious injury.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't know his readiness for the beginning of the season.
29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And as far as what he can add, he blocks well.
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: He had some chemistry with Josh Allen.
30:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see any particular significant advantage to adding him to the roster.
30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Other than, okay, I'm just going to say it straight up, if it's between shivers and Gabe Davis, give me shivers every day, all day, second, really.
30:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely.
30:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Because shivers has more upside.
30:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Gabe Davis is who he is.
30:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a teeth blocker.
30:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not reliable.
30:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He only catches half of his passes.
30:48
[SPEAKER_00]: His perception rate is pretty low.
30:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, John says he was Tyrell Shabers was a gun around special teams.
30:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the other thing.
31:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to play special teams.
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Warver is that last one.
31:07
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
31:08
[SPEAKER_00]: After play special teams and I don't know if Gabe Davis play special teams or not.
31:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember to be honest with you.
31:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know he did.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, Shavers is more versatile.
31:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Much more people because he can play.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: He can play in the slot.
31:23
[SPEAKER_00]: He can play on the outside.
31:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Gabe Davis did play special teams, but as it was going into his career with the bills he didn't
31:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But when he first started, he did play specialties at some point, but like I said earlier on later on in this career he didn't.
31:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I have to I have to disagree because I'm going to take the stance of disagree with yeah.
31:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I say this and I know that the bills know both of the guys, right.
31:55
[SPEAKER_02]: No flavors they know gave Davis.
31:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But if it has, if the final person that have to say something will be Josh Allen, I think Josh Allen's going to take Gabe Davis.
32:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
32:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He knows.
32:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the regular season.
32:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And he knows.
32:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're, like, we consider scrambled drills.
32:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And not saying their safer doesn't know what eat.
32:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that.
32:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, I think, for history, for a quarterback and a white receiver to have to be familiar with each other.
32:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say Gabe.
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Not saying that he, because Shavers is an unknown.
32:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He's an unknown when it comes to, you know, making the roster and playing every week and all of that.
32:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't have to pay too much for gay Davis because he's on it.
32:40
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
32:41
[SPEAKER_02]: That's been in the middle because they're getting paid.
32:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
32:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Maximville, animal loving.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
32:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Not exactly.
32:49
[SPEAKER_02]: So why not?
32:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
32:50
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
32:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, some were good.
32:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Michael Hoyt.
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Fifty-five is going to forgot who that guy was.
33:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, no, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no
33:18
[SPEAKER_00]: That guy was all over the place again.
33:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Got a sack?
33:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna be, I think I said this before, Lorenzo Alexander on Royce.
33:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
33:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Could he remind me of the place?
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He's everywhere.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Everywhere.
33:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You never know where he's gonna show up.
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And he can play all those positions really well.
33:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can tell, I listen to an interview that he did on one bill's life,
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And this guy is all buffalo.
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say, all buffalo, all buffalo, all football.
33:50
[SPEAKER_00]: All football.
33:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I love him.
33:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely love him.
33:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love what he said.
33:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, I hope people can tell I'm not Joey Bosa.
34:00
[SPEAKER_00]: That's Joey Bosa over there.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's Joey Bosa.
34:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, the crazy thing about it though, I love that he's playing well.
34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we don't see anything for six weeks.
34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God, we're not going to see him for six weeks.
34:15
[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to need him so badly.
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to help our defense a lot.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Looking, I can say that if there's anything good about it is that he's going to be coming in because we have a buy week on week seven.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So he won't actually be playing until week eight.
34:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Like half the season will be over, but he'll be fresh.
34:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a guy that you want.
34:38
[SPEAKER_00]: to have fresh legs.
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's going to be everywhere and he's going to be a nightmare.
34:42
[SPEAKER_00]: We just have to figure out how to get through the first six games without it.
34:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
34:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Chanel has, has, has, has looked well.
34:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's look good too.
34:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
34:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, there's some decisions that's going to be made.
34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm glad I am not in the business of saying no, no, no, I'm not in the business of that.
35:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad I'm not there.
35:07
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but here's the other thing people because this is relatively new.
35:11
[SPEAKER_00]: We've only been doing this recently.
35:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going from ninety to fifty three by the bank.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So in the meantime, we might see more movement on and off the roster because they may pick up.
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: They may find a safety.
35:28
[SPEAKER_00]: They may
35:30
[SPEAKER_00]: somebody that gets cut that they want to pick up.
35:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So our fifty three-man roster may may not be all that predictable until the cut-down happens because there are a lot of good players that are going to be cut from other teams.
35:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll just have to see what happens, but I think it's going to be crazy when cut-down day happens.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Next Tuesday.
35:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I know everybody's getting bent on a shape.
35:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But for the safety room and stuff like that, and I know
36:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You are when it comes to getting the player, you are when you are, would you draft it, right?
36:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that's worth it.
36:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
36:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so late, but it doesn't mean that there's somebody that maybe they're targeting that they
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: that could really help out.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
36:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm certainly open to that.
36:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
36:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about Frank Gord Jr.
36:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I want a little Frank Gord Jr.
36:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm another solid game.
36:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that he came in.
36:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And not even that was besides the score.
36:40
[SPEAKER_02]: The momentum was changing.
36:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see it.
36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: You felt they was changing.
36:44
[SPEAKER_02]: They were running the ball more.
36:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I love how Frank Gore tune your runs the ball and then poop out.
36:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, uh, they kind of talked about it at, um, hard not that's discussed it.
37:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, I didn't secure the ball.
37:01
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, you see what you did there, right?
37:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, I know I didn't secure the ball.
37:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But prior to that, Frank was getting that run reliable.
37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Good to see.
37:13
[SPEAKER_00]: They always criticize him.
37:15
[SPEAKER_00]: He's too slow.
37:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Do we remember Fred Jackson?
37:21
[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't right.
37:22
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy either was right.
37:24
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was also undrafted.
37:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And all Frank Gore Jr.
37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: does is produce.
37:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Put his head down and produce.
37:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Purdue doesn't matter what offensive line is in front of them, doesn't matter whatever he produces.
37:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would be very happy if we keep him.
37:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I don't think he'll make the fifty-three man roster, but I think practice squad.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's called up because if there's an injury, he's up.
37:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Does he get called up last year, but he didn't play right?
38:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
38:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He did.
38:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It could happen and I will comfortable with him.
38:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care that he's not the fastest guy.
38:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care what his measurables are.
38:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like his dad.
38:14
[SPEAKER_00]: His dad was the same way.
38:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's too slow.
38:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he did was produce the third most running yards in the history of the NFL.
38:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm good with Frank Gore.
38:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was I was excited to see Frank or again have a solid game and that's what you want and that's what you expect for your guys when they come in and you know playing late into the preseason you expect for for them to come in and he's this is what second season right?
38:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Second or third it might be third.
38:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you just expect for them just to come on in here and just you know again put your head down and work great guy
38:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
38:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move on.
39:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So the bills have their last thank God.
39:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Preseason game on Saturday, at seventh, third, it can stamp a bay.
39:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I was listening to a podcast.
39:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was the smoke break Zeebot.
39:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would love for them to get rid of Preseason.
39:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love for them to get rid of it and just do a joint practice from here on out.
39:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you get more out of the joint practice than you do a preseason.
39:30
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're going to have one, I have one preseason game.
39:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
39:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
39:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And make joint practices the the rest of the way.
39:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Now as far as Tampa goes.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, folks, I hope you're ready because it's probably going to be the same mold stuff.
39:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
39:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we are playing Tampa in the regular season.
39:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And I told you forgot about that until you mentioned it.
39:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can tell you, there's not going to be a whole lot out there for us to see.
40:05
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to do listen.
40:08
[SPEAKER_02]: The the the preseason games that they play especially when they play against someone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going they're going to be so vanilla.
40:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's no game planning.
40:21
[SPEAKER_00]: No game planning.
40:21
[SPEAKER_00]: No game planning any game planning all preseason.
40:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
40:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Which brings me to something Steve Tasker said on one bill's life about the preseason.
40:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you go back in time and I remember this very clearly, Marv Levy never won preseason games because he did the same thing.
40:42
[SPEAKER_00]: He used the preseason to evaluate players.
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't give a rat behind if they won the game or didn't win the game.
40:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So McDermott follows the same kind of principle.
40:53
[SPEAKER_00]: This is an evaluation process.
40:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not you're not out there to try to win a game.
40:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
40:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
40:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes, you want to win if you can, but that's not the priority.
41:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just answer this real quick.
41:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that I don't think he's going to go on.
41:11
[SPEAKER_02]: On.
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[SPEAKER_02]: On.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He won't.
41:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He won't.
41:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He won't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't I think that.
41:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he makes this plot.
41:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
41:22
[SPEAKER_00]: He fits the other thing is he's large, right?
41:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He fits a prototype that we don't have.
41:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, I would definitely keep him.
41:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I would definitely keep him on the roster.
41:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Getting back to the joint practices and when they did have joint practice, Coleman was awesome, Russo and Bosa was getting to the quarterback.
41:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I found it very interesting that I
41:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Because after they had their joint practice, I went to the bears, social media, I read some stuff, I listened to some podcasts, or the bears, and they were saying, in particular, it was this one rat that Joey Bolsa had, and he hit Williams, the quarterback, and nobody came to his defense.
42:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if you would hit Josh Allen, oh my god, they would have been a bra.
42:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was funny that Caleb Williams got hit.
42:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the bear's quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And nobody came to his defense.
42:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I missed that.
42:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
42:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, maybe it's nothing, but maybe it's something.
42:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Because let it be, let it be Patrick Mahomes.
42:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
42:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Even freaking, I don't know who's, who am I watching right now?
42:46
[SPEAKER_02]: The forty-nineers guy prop listen a party Let it been him any quarterback any quarterback You're not gonna come to the defense like you could have shoved Joy Bolsa hey, what are you doing nothing?
43:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I Was I just found it Founded odd me personally I found it odd because I was like you don't hit the quarterback
43:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, accidentally tripped a quarterback, you don't breathe on him like you don't go near him and that happened and I just was like, oh, okay.
43:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I missed that.
43:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
43:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I went into a space because they even had a space.
43:24
[SPEAKER_02]: The joint practice with the Buffalo Bills and I just so happened to hop in there and he was talking about it.
43:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, maybe it's maybe he's a bit of a nothing burger, but he was like, I just found it odd.
43:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was to a podcast and they said it.
43:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like,
43:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
43:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he even said if it was Josh Allen, you best believe D.N.
43:48
[SPEAKER_02]: number.
43:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He said number thirty seven would have said something.
43:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for sure.
43:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Or seventy three would have said something, which is D.N.
43:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
43:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, again, I just want our guys to be ready and prepared because it's coming out the box with a heavy hit or when it comes to the Ravens.
44:08
[SPEAKER_02]: and you want the guys to get those rev.
44:10
[SPEAKER_02]: You want your starters to be ready because this game is important.
44:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel.
44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It is very important and we're not going to see that happen.
44:21
[SPEAKER_00]: The starters are not.
44:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
44:23
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not playing.
44:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
44:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
44:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But the joint practice for me was important to see that the guys and Josh and Coleman that they had the press or who was it.
44:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Dion Dawkins was talking about Coleman and saying that.
44:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not the same guy.
44:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
44:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Same guy as he was last year.
44:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's good to hear.
44:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good to hear.
44:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really stepping up a lot as a leader.
44:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
44:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's talking a lot more.
44:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy to see him do that because he's another guy.
44:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think like Josh, who puts people together, everybody loves the one.
45:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, everybody has, has no stick.
45:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I did hear this too when it came to that bear spills joint practice.
45:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Dion was telling their D. D. N's, how to
45:19
[SPEAKER_02]: approach or how to bull rush or whatever.
45:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he was giving them pointers.
45:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Deons funny.
45:27
[SPEAKER_02]: They're saying that he's like, is this all they have?
45:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like now, if I do this, if you do that spin move, I'm going to stop it out.
45:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So he was saying they were saying that he was giving them pointers of what to do and how to how to rush.
45:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought it was interesting.
45:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Deons, the guy man.
45:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Deons.
45:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I love him.
45:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, some guys that we, I heard that was doing well Maxwell, improving.
45:52
[SPEAKER_02]: He's off the crutches and now he's on the bike, which you'd love to see.
45:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I would not be surprised if he's on IR.
46:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think he's on BIIR?
46:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Mmm, that's a good question.
46:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
46:07
[SPEAKER_00]: He was on the bike, but he had that brace on and it's a good question because it makes sense.
46:15
[SPEAKER_00]: They might do it in order to keep somebody on the roster that they don't want to lose.
46:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Not even that Robin this roster.
46:26
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to have to really work this roster.
46:31
[SPEAKER_02]: They are because you got two guys that suspended.
46:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You have your rookie who's not playing.
46:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone else is like, I don't
46:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Curtis Samuel.
46:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Curtis Samuel was another way I think probably belongs on IR.
46:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Hamstring, right?
46:57
[SPEAKER_00]: This time, there's always a... He hasn't even... I know, God Jesus Christ.
47:03
[SPEAKER_00]: That was another bad, because they gave him too much money in a three-year contract.
47:11
[SPEAKER_02]: If you come off of it is you're a lot of deck.
47:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's six million in deck.
47:19
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why it's like a trade and but no who's gonna want him no one's gonna want a guy who's always injured and If you can do it if anybody can do it is Brandon being but We'll see what we will definitely see.
47:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll definitely see this always fun always freaking fun Robin
47:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Talking about our pre-season games, our guys, the ones that we thought were going to make some splashes, have them make splashes yet.
47:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still waiting to hear London, London Jackson.
47:55
[SPEAKER_02]: He had some few reps there that was impressive, but
48:00
[SPEAKER_02]: for the most part, I want to say he might be the only rookie that we're still kind of waiting to hear something.
48:08
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where this Tampa game will be very interesting because all our rookie defensive linemen are going to be playing a lot again.
48:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It might be my big Bubba of love.
48:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I love him.
48:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I love him.
48:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I love him.
48:24
[SPEAKER_02]: He probably got your guy.
48:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I got my knife, finally.
48:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's raw, right?
48:30
[SPEAKER_00]: He can come from Alabama.
48:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He came from Kentucky.
48:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's going to get, he's going to get coached up.
48:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
48:39
[SPEAKER_00]: For everybody.
48:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a handler.
48:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He's another one that's looking really good.
48:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was a good, that was a very good pick.
48:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a great pick.
48:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that pick.
48:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I did too.
48:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He fits everything that we were looking for in our defensive lines.
48:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So I expect with this Tampa game that I'll be looking at the defensive line a lot.
49:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He was lined up besides at Oliver.
49:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
49:10
[SPEAKER_00]: which was interesting, right?
49:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not really a one technique.
49:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got two, two, three technique guys out there.
49:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows what the hell they'll do?
49:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And Michael Hoy comes back.
49:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be moving the defensive line players around like, Chroma was the other way.
49:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is, but this is what this is what you want.
49:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You want that facility.
49:30
[SPEAKER_02]: You want
49:31
[SPEAKER_02]: because it's not the typical, oh, line them up to same guys, the Buffalo Bills, you have that versatility now, which is great.
49:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And with that's what we've been screaming for.
49:42
[SPEAKER_00]: This defense is not going to look anything like it did in the last few years.
49:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we are going to blitz.
49:50
[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to blitz more this year than we have blitzed in years.
49:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Since Sean McDermott came on board, we're going to blitz.
49:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's on Nielsen, Coach Nielsen.
50:00
[SPEAKER_00]: coaching the defensive line.
50:03
[SPEAKER_00]: They're ready.
50:05
[SPEAKER_02]: All that comes in it plays and it's a marriage.
50:08
[SPEAKER_02]: You have that that D line.
50:10
[SPEAKER_02]: You have the linebackers.
50:11
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to say you have the corner back.
50:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to say all that is a marriage.
50:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And you just want your last line of defense, which is our safe fees to be okay.
50:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but we're not going to stress over our safeties because we have a defensive quarterback.
50:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, defensive coaches that can coach up that safety room.
50:35
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll figure it out for sure.
50:36
[SPEAKER_02]: But we're going to get out of here.
50:37
[SPEAKER_02]: We want to thank you guys for always.
50:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
50:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We will solve this last day about.
50:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But soon we will have many good things to talk about.
50:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, because our game is right around the corner and we cannot wait for regular season to come up.
50:54
[SPEAKER_02]: But as for right now, it's Robin and I, and we want to thank you guys for always tuning in.
50:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
51:01
[SPEAKER_02]: We love you guys.
51:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We love you guys.
51:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's always go bills.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Peace out, y'all.