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OPPOSITION TERRITORY: Eagles vs. Giants Pregame Preview · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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Speaker 1: Welcome to opposition territory.
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Speaker 2: Here at the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest
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Speaker 2: running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, twelve
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Speaker 2: years strong.
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Speaker 1: We got a great discussion, a.
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Speaker 2: Great pre game preview podcast show coming your way, as
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Speaker 2: we're gonna be diving into this upcoming Philadelphia Eagles and
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Speaker 2: New York Giants game on Thursday night. Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be Uh, it's gonna be an interesting one. Really,
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be an interesting one, I think in a
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Speaker 2: lot of different ways. Jeff Warren, I am here with
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Speaker 2: my buddy from Big Blue View dot com. He is
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Speaker 2: a contributor over there, Chris Flum. How are you doing,
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Speaker 2: my buddy.
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Speaker 3: I would say, all things considered, I'm doing well enough.
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Speaker 2: Okay, it was a tough loss this past week for
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Speaker 2: you guys. I mean, really the game you guys probably
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Speaker 2: should have won, right.
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Speaker 3: I've been saying that a lot this year. Yeah, this
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Speaker 3: one in particular. I don't think I've ever seen a
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Speaker 3: team go from dominant to disastrous that quickly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It has been an interesting year in the
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Speaker 2: NFL for not just the New York Giants and the.
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, but all around.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you saw what happened last night Sunday Night
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Speaker 2: Football with the Buffalo Bills and the New England Patriots.
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Speaker 2: I don't think any of us thought for a second
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Speaker 2: now that the New England Patriots would go into Buffalo
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Speaker 2: and beat them in their house. This type of season
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Speaker 2: is really bizarre.
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Speaker 3: Here, Chris, absolutely, and I was even going down to
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Speaker 3: college if with all the others upsets the college ranks
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Speaker 3: have been having it. It has been a weird.
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Speaker 1: Year right here, right here, right here. Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 3: My sister went to Penn State too.
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Speaker 2: Yep, it's been a rough It's been a rough, like
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Speaker 2: week or two here the world of Philly sports in
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Speaker 2: certain ways and being a Penn State fan. But look,
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Speaker 2: let's get into this preview here. I could chat with
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Speaker 2: you forever about what's going on in the world of sports,
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Speaker 2: but I first wanted to dive into, Chris, you know,
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Speaker 2: the type of year that it has been for the
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Speaker 2: New York Giants. They're one in four heading into week six. Here,
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Speaker 2: I'm wondering, what's if you had one word to summarize
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Speaker 2: this New York Giants season, what would that one word
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Speaker 2: be and.
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Speaker 3: Why Okay, I would have to go with frustrating, and
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Speaker 3: the reason is because the Giants are better than their
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Speaker 3: record says they are. They have more talent than you
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Speaker 3: would expect from a team that has only cracked twenty
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Speaker 3: points once. Yeah, this year, right up until Malik Neighbors
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Speaker 3: got hurt, I would say they were pretty much set
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Speaker 3: at the four cornerstone positions. Jackson Dart has been impressive
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Speaker 3: since his very first preseason game. The offensive line has
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Speaker 3: been bad for the first time in a long time.
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Speaker 3: So like, they should be better than a one and
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Speaker 3: four record. Yeah, they were right in it right up
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Speaker 3: until about the second half of the fourth quarter against Washington.
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Speaker 3: They should have beaten Dallas. They were right in it
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Speaker 3: with the Kansas City Chiefs, and then they beat the Chargers,
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Speaker 3: and then they were dominant in the first quarter and
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Speaker 3: a half of the game against the Saints, and then
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Speaker 3: were again right into it until they had five consecutive
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Speaker 3: drives and in turnovers against the Saints. So it's just
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Speaker 3: for so many reasons they should be better than they
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Speaker 3: have been, but they just cannot get out of their
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Speaker 3: own way, and that is the most frustrating thing. It
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Speaker 3: would be fine, well, not fine, but understandable if they
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Speaker 3: were just not talented or if they were just bad.
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Speaker 3: But they aren't. They've got so many flashes of good play,
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Speaker 3: and they've got talented players, and they just keep finding
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Speaker 3: ways to lose.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frustrating obviously for Giants fans, But I think
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Speaker 2: this year throughout the NFL, as we are now seeing
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Speaker 2: there's no undefeated team anymore in the NFL. The Bills,
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Speaker 2: like I mentioned last night, were the last and they
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Speaker 2: ended up faltering against the New England Patriots.
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Speaker 1: I think inconsistency is happening a lot throughout the league.
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Speaker 1: You look at the Philadelphia Eagles too.
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Speaker 2: This is a team that will be dominant one half,
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Speaker 2: putting up two hundred and fifty some yards, and then
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Speaker 2: thirty yards the next half. It is so bizarre, and
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Speaker 2: it's happening consistently with the Philadelphia Eagles. Just what happened
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Speaker 2: this past week. Eagles are up by two scores on
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Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos and they let the Broncos come back
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Speaker 2: because of offensive in my opinion, play calling more so
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Speaker 2: than inconsistency. But the offense just wasn't able to get
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Speaker 2: it done, and the play calling was absolutely horrendous. I
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Speaker 2: think we're seeing a lot of inconsistencies throughout the NFL,
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Speaker 2: and I think for both the Giants and the Eagles,
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Speaker 2: as we're moving along with this preview show, I mean
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Speaker 2: that that could potentially be one of the one of
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Speaker 2: the catalysts for you know, who is gonna win and
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Speaker 2: who's gonna lose this upcoming match up here. So I
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Speaker 2: really want to get into the strengths and weaknesses of
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Speaker 2: the New York Giants because we always like to talk
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Speaker 2: about that on our opposition territory shows here, whoever team
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Speaker 2: the Eagles are facing that week, let's talk about the
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Speaker 2: biggest strength of the team, the biggest weakness of the
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Speaker 2: team here. So let's get into the biggest strength of
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Speaker 2: the New York Giants after five weeks of play, Chris,
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Speaker 2: what is that? And uh, you know what, what can
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Speaker 2: you describe to us with regard to that strength?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the defensive line, just straight up, that is
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Speaker 3: the strength of the team right now. Cifically, those three
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Speaker 3: Brian Burns gave on Thibeau, abdu Carter, obviously you got
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Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence inside and then a rotation you know, next
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Speaker 3: two in a round of behind him. Every offensive line
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Speaker 3: has to their a game against the Giants, and the
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator needs to have a plan to get the
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Speaker 3: ball out of his quarterback's hand quickly. Yeah, Yet the
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Speaker 3: Giants run defense hasn't been good right up until the
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Speaker 3: game against the Saints. It was the worst in the league.
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Speaker 3: But that has less to do with their defensive front
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Speaker 3: and more about just the execution behind them, which is
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Speaker 3: something we'll get into later. But that defensive front, they
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Speaker 3: can apply pressure from everywhere. They can do so quickly.
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Speaker 3: They can do it with power, they can do it
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Speaker 3: with speed, they can do with technique, and they're also
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Speaker 3: for the most part athletic enough where they can drop
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Speaker 3: into coverage as well, so you can never be quite
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Speaker 3: sure who's coming and who isn't if we're talking about
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Speaker 3: secondary strengths. Weirdly, despite having a three turnover game, I
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Speaker 3: would actually say Jackson Dart right now. As I mentioned before,
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Speaker 3: he has been really impressive, still a long ways away.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of he has his rookie moments. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: there are technical things you see on film that he
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Speaker 3: I honestly would have liked to have seen him iron
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Speaker 3: out before he gets moved into the starting job, but
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Speaker 3: that was a coach's decision, so okay, got to live
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Speaker 3: with that then.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But his poise, the way that he never really seems overwhelmed. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: even if he's under pressure, he has a very good
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Speaker 3: command of the pocket. He can make defenders miss and
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Speaker 3: either extend the play pick up yards with his legs,
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Speaker 3: and he's accurate, and he has a strong arm, and
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Speaker 3: he has that baseball background so he can throw off platforms,
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Speaker 3: so he has a lot of tools that the Giants
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Speaker 3: haven't really had available to them before. Yeah, it's not
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Speaker 3: kind of like the Eli Manning heyday, where if you
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Speaker 3: go into the fourth quarter basically with in seven points
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Speaker 3: of the other team, you kind of calm down. You feel, Okay,
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Speaker 3: we are not out of this. In fact, we've got
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Speaker 3: a pretty much chance. Yeah, but it's Dart does kind
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Speaker 3: of it feels like there's something there. Yeah, it feels
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Speaker 3: like he can be a reason why you win and
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Speaker 3: not just a player you win with.
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Speaker 2: It's a different vibe than Daniel Jones for sure. I mean,
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Speaker 2: just in this very very short period of time that
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Speaker 2: we've seen Jackson Dart on the field, I mean, it
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Speaker 2: is a it's definitely different what about the biggest weakness
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Speaker 2: coming into this that you know this week? Here, what
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Speaker 2: do you think that biggest weakness of the Giants is
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Speaker 2: right now?
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Speaker 3: Wide receiver personnel? What the personnel weakness is wide receiver?
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Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors towards acl he's done. Darius Slayton heard his
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Speaker 3: hamstring against the Saints. I sincerely we haven't gotten word,
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Speaker 3: but I sincerely doubt he will be ready to go
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Speaker 3: against the Eagles in three days.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Behind him, you've got Wandale Robinson, who is a nice player.
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Speaker 3: I like him. He is more than just a gadget player,
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Speaker 3: but he is still a five foot eight former running back.
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Speaker 3: And then you have Jalen Hyatt, who has completely forgotten
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Speaker 3: how to play football ever since winning the Bolitnikoff Award
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Speaker 3: at Tennessee. Uh for everything I thought, Yeah, everything I
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Speaker 3: thought was his strength on tape as a prospect has
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Speaker 3: turned out to not be a strength. And then basically,
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Speaker 3: you know, the things left is Gunroll Chefsky there kick
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Speaker 3: and punt returner who can do things with the ball
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Speaker 3: in his hands, but again not a guy you want starting.
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Speaker 3: And Bo Collins, an undrafted rookie who has since the
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Speaker 3: start of preseason been the target of three interceptions because
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Speaker 3: he screwed up the route. So yeah, I would say,
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Speaker 3: right how wide receiver is a desolate wasteland for the Giants.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a great way to put it there, Chris,
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Speaker 2: But look, you touched on Jackson Dart. I want to
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Speaker 2: get into the quarterback position a bit here from what
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Speaker 2: you've seen over these past couple of games, And to
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Speaker 2: be honest with you, like you said, you know, it
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Speaker 2: hasn't been terrible by any stretch of the imagination. Jackson
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Speaker 2: Dart in the pocket has not necessarily been terrible. But
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Speaker 2: I do feel bad. I feel bad for rookie quarterbacks
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Speaker 2: that have to put so much on their shoulders that
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Speaker 2: first season as they're trying to learn the offense. But
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Speaker 2: they're just trying to learn how the game and the
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Speaker 2: speed of the NFL is playing out right in front
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Speaker 2: of them, and so far is doing not a bad job.
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Speaker 2: It's got to be incredibly difficult. Look, he definitely looked
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Speaker 2: like a rookie in what I saw this past week
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Speaker 2: against the Saints, and a game again the Giants really
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Speaker 2: should have won. So I'm wondering you were talking about
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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart as as being a positive on this team
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Speaker 2: just a few minutes ago, how would you assess, if
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Speaker 2: you can get in maybe a little more detail, how
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Speaker 2: would you assess where he's at over these past couple
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Speaker 2: weeks and again maybe getting into some of those strengths
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Speaker 2: and weaknesses.
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Speaker 3: I think he is further ahead than some people expected.
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Speaker 3: You know, it was coming out of Ole Miss. He
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Speaker 3: he was pretty widely expected to be a player who
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Speaker 3: was going to need a year like a solid red
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Speaker 3: shirt ear yep. I believe he is processing the game
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Speaker 3: a lot more quickly and efficient. Efficiently isn't quite the
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Speaker 3: quite the right word, but close enough then people expected.
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Speaker 3: I think coming out of that lane Kiffen offense, he's
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Speaker 3: a lot has a lot higher football like you than
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Speaker 3: people gave him credit for at Ole Miss. Yeah, you
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Speaker 3: can see him go through his progressions. You can see
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Speaker 3: him make decisions pretty quickly. He's been decisive and he's
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Speaker 3: made generally good decisions, like even other than when not
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Speaker 3: not to slide and the way he occasionally carries the ball,
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Speaker 3: he has been decisive and just smart in how he
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Speaker 3: makes his decisions, Like he typically doesn't put the football
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Speaker 3: in harm's way, which is a weird thing to say
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Speaker 3: after he had three turnovers. But again, I wouldn't really
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Speaker 3: put too many of the too much of that on
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Speaker 3: him other than just ball security carrying it. I wouldn't
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Speaker 3: even carry a loaf of bread like that. But yeah, again, that's.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that's his biggest weakness here at this point,
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Speaker 2: even though it's yeah, yeah, just kind of the way
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Speaker 2: he yeah, kind of the way that that he is
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Speaker 2: holding that ball out there like a loaf of bread
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Speaker 2: at times, like you're saying.
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Speaker 3: That, But that definitely is a weakness. That is, I
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Speaker 3: would say, kind of the almost the Devil May Care
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Speaker 3: way that he plays. Like he and camp Scadboo have
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Speaker 3: the exact same running style. He would rather run through
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Speaker 3: you than around you, right, And that's that's the thing
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Speaker 3: that's going to have to change. He has recognized that
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Speaker 3: it's going to have to change, and he has seemed
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Speaker 3: to improve quickly. I would say, from like a mental standpoint,
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Speaker 3: his biggest weakness has been that it isn't so much
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Speaker 3: that the game is too fast for him, but sometimes
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Speaker 3: he gets going faster than the game, which, yeah, that's
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Speaker 3: one of the things I noticed.
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Speaker 1: JT.
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Speaker 3: Osullivan runs the quarterback school on YouTube, he's pointed out
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Speaker 3: dart hesitancy to like rather than take a proper three
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Speaker 3: five step drop, he kind of shuffles backwards and doesn't
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Speaker 3: really sink his feet up with his receiver's routes so
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Speaker 3: he can get through his progressions before routes develop. So
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Speaker 3: in some ways he needs to slow down to the
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Speaker 3: speed of the game sometimes, which again it's a rookie thing.
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Speaker 3: You're he's having to develop on the job, which, like
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Speaker 3: you said, that's a rough thing.
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Speaker 2: It absolutely is a rough thing. But you know, so far,
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Speaker 2: you know, he hasn't been a complete and utter bust
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Speaker 2: for the New York Giants, not at all. And it's
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Speaker 2: gonna be it's gonna be interesting going up against this
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Speaker 2: Eagles defense, this Eagles defense that certainly is not in
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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form a dominant defense this year
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Speaker 2: as we have seen, not a terrible defense.
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Speaker 1: But we're gonna get into some trenches talk in just
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Speaker 1: a bit.
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Speaker 2: But before we take a break here, Chris, can you
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Speaker 1: Great great site, great great content.
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Speaker 2: If you're looking at some NFC East rival content, I
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Speaker 2: do want to get into now the trenches. It's gonna
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Speaker 2: be a battle of the trench? Is this Thursday night here?
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Speaker 2: I wonder how this is really going to end up
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Speaker 2: playing out because the Eagles are having some major issues
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Speaker 2: within the interior of their offensive line. As many know,
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Speaker 2: Landon Dickerson he's been nursing a back injury since training camp.
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Speaker 2: Now he's got an ankle injury as well. His backup
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Speaker 2: Brett Toath. He's an average blocker out there, an average
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Speaker 2: O lineman, but not killing it for sure. Their center
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Speaker 2: Cam Jurgens is also recovering from his back surgery in
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Speaker 2: the offseason. Just a lot of inconsistencies. Also, with Tyler
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Speaker 2: Steen really trying to settle into his starting role for
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Speaker 2: the first time as the Eagles right guard, I'm wondering,
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Speaker 2: how do you see the Giants defensive front really stacking
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Speaker 2: up against the Eagles offensive line this week? Chris, Because
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Speaker 2: the offensive line has quote technically been kind of a
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Speaker 2: weakness of the Philadelphia Eagles, it's been inconsistent, to say
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Speaker 2: the least.
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely agree. Other than, you know, whether or
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Speaker 3: not the Giant can get their passing game going, this
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Speaker 3: will be where the game is won or lost.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're still kind of waiting for Dexter Lawrence to
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Speaker 3: play like all Caps Dexter Lawrence. Again. Yeah, he has
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Speaker 3: been and he has been a factor. He's been impactful,
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Speaker 3: but he hasn't taken a game over just yet, you know,
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Speaker 3: other than you know, almost having a thick six against
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Speaker 3: the Chargers, you know, last week. But yeah, he hasn't
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Speaker 3: been just dominating double teams quite the way he has been. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm personally going to be interested to see how the
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Speaker 3: Giants make use of Abdul Carter, you know, with the
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Speaker 3: uh the mobility threat that Jalen Hurts has while they
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Speaker 3: use him as a spy, UH, have him show pressure,
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Speaker 3: back off, use him as an edge rusher.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 3: That I think is going to be very interesting to see. Uh.
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Speaker 3: On the outside, Kevon Tipbeau, Brian Burns, they both added
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Speaker 3: power aspects to their games. And yeah, the Eagles have
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Speaker 3: I believe they still have the biggest offensive line in
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Speaker 3: the NFL, I think so.
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Speaker 1: So.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it will be interesting to see how if
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Speaker 3: the Giants try to win with speed or if they
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Speaker 3: try to constrict that offensive line the way the Broncos
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Speaker 3: were kind of able to. You just try to hold
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Speaker 3: their blocks, keep Jalen Hurts in the pocket, and then
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Speaker 3: just try to crush it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not that isn't exactly how the Giants are built.
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Speaker 3: You know, they really are kind of built to win
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Speaker 3: with speed and bend on the outside and then kind
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Speaker 3: of force guys up to Dexter Lawrence, Darius Alexander recruit
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Speaker 3: Uh Nacho, I'm I can already tell I'm gonna trip
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Speaker 3: over his full name.
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Speaker 1: I don't worry about it.
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Speaker 3: Luckie Munaz, Roach has uh the various other guys they
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Speaker 3: have in the middle there. So I I think it's
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Speaker 3: going to be an interesting matchup between the speed the
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Speaker 3: Giants have on the especially the outside of their defense
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Speaker 3: off the edges, and just the power the Eagles have. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and I'm kind of not sure which way it's going
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Speaker 3: to go. Yeah, because again, like you said, the Eagles
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Speaker 3: offensive line has been not a strength.
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Speaker 2: Right Evenorando, So yeah, even Jordan By a lot of
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Speaker 2: this past week was having some issues. He was getting
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Speaker 2: driven right into the backfield, getting driven right into jail
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Speaker 2: and hurts at times. It was kind of bizarre to see,
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Speaker 2: and it's bizarre to see what's been happening with this
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Speaker 2: Eagles offensive line for sure. But I also want to
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Speaker 2: talk about, you know, what we might see from the
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Speaker 2: Giants defense in terms of their secondary here, because one
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Speaker 2: of the themes coming into this past week's game against
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Speaker 2: the Broncos with the Eagles was that AJ Brown, DeVante Smith,
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Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard like, let's get these weapons and these receivers going,
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Speaker 2: Let's get them going here, and they actually were able
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Speaker 2: to do it. You know, we didn't care for the
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Speaker 2: play calling too too much when it came down to it,
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Speaker 2: but AJ Brown, Davonte Smith, you know, they were able
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Speaker 2: to get going this past week and they were successful
20:17
Speaker 2: in the passing game. The Eagles were in many ways. Again,
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Speaker 2: the offensive coaching been under a lot of scrutiny in Philadelphia,
20:23
Speaker 2: and rightfully so. But now that that Aj Brown, DeVante Smith,
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Speaker 2: and Dallas Goddard have really kind of been ramped up
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Speaker 2: here after Week five, here, I'm wondering what level of
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Speaker 2: concern do you have for the Giant secondary and these
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Speaker 2: matchups heading into this Thursday night game.
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Speaker 3: I would say there's definitely concern because the Giant secondary
20:44
Speaker 3: has not measured up to expectations. You know, they went out,
20:47
Speaker 3: they got Pulson at Deabo, they got Javon Holland that
20:51
Speaker 3: was supposed to really shore up the holes in their secondary, YEP,
20:55
Speaker 3: replacing just a rotating cast at one cornerback spot. And
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Speaker 3: then Jason Pinnock who was fine at the safety position.
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Speaker 3: But Dabo and Holland have played reasonably well. The problem
21:12
Speaker 3: is that Tyler nuben and Drew Phillips have been very inconsistent.
21:18
Speaker 3: You know, there's that word again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are playing much more like rookies than they
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Speaker 3: were when they were rookies. Yeah, they had you know,
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Speaker 3: Drew Phillips has either been fantastic or a flag magnet.
21:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Tyler Nuban has been his general lack of athleticism. He's
21:37
Speaker 3: a very smart player, but he is a limited athlete
21:40
Speaker 3: that has shown up because his angles, his just understanding
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Speaker 3: of where he's supposed to be in coverage. Yeah, that
21:49
Speaker 3: has either taken a step backward or they've added some
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Speaker 3: wrinkles and changes to the defense that he is just
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Speaker 3: not settling into them correctly. Yeah, So that I would
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Speaker 3: definitely say has been a concern. And then the other
22:03
Speaker 3: cornerback position has just been weird to the Giants. They
22:06
Speaker 3: have used a platoon at cornerback two with Cordell Flott
22:11
Speaker 3: being the starter and then former first rounder Deontay Banks
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Speaker 3: coming in as an outside corner in Nickel packages.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is weird.
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Speaker 3: And Banks has been I don't want to say he's
22:23
Speaker 3: been terrible because there have been enough decent plays on
22:27
Speaker 3: tape that don't get focus. Then I don't want to
22:30
Speaker 3: drag him completely. It's just that when he fails, he
22:32
Speaker 3: fails spectacularly.
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Speaker 2: Right, So I feel that with one former New York Giant,
22:40
Speaker 2: and that is a Dori Jackson, if you'd like a
22:41
Speaker 2: Dori Jackson back, we can actually provide that.
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Speaker 1: Nothing to you at this point.
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Speaker 3: Okay, but only if he comes packaged with aj Brown.
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Speaker 2: There we go, absolutely, there we go. Oh man, it
22:53
Speaker 2: has been great talking to you, Chris. But before I
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Speaker 2: let you go, buddy, like we do here on our
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Speaker 2: Opposition Territory podcast every week with our pregame preview shows,
23:02
Speaker 2: we talk about one thing that each team is going
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Speaker 2: to need to hit on for a win this week
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Speaker 2: against the other. So let's first start off with what's
23:10
Speaker 2: the one thing the Giants are gonna need to hit
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Speaker 2: on for a win this week against the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Speaker 3: Okay, putting Jalen Hurts on the ground aside, and slowing
23:21
Speaker 3: down the running game aside, I'm going I have to
23:23
Speaker 3: go with the passing game. They have to be able
23:25
Speaker 3: to move the ball through the air, which I think
23:27
Speaker 3: is going to come from the tight ends, which is
23:30
Speaker 3: kind of weird to say for the Giants because they
23:32
Speaker 3: tend to forget those exist. Yeah, but right now they're
23:36
Speaker 3: two best receivers outside of Wandell Robinson are probably Theo
23:41
Speaker 3: Johnson and Daniel Bellinger. Yeah, you know, THEO Johnson is
23:46
Speaker 3: a big, you know, six to six almost two sixty
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Speaker 3: freakishly athletic tight end, former Penn State guy. But he
23:55
Speaker 3: was raw coming out. He can he can stretch the field,
23:58
Speaker 3: he can make tough catch is he just has to
24:01
Speaker 3: do consistently. Daniel Bellinger is a lot more athletic than
24:04
Speaker 3: people expect for a six five two and fifty pound
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Speaker 3: why tight end, But the Giants have basically since he
24:13
Speaker 3: got poked in the eye as a rookie, forgotten he existed.
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Speaker 2: You know.
24:17
Speaker 3: They went out and got Darren Waller and just fed
24:19
Speaker 3: him the targets. Then they got THEO Johnson and fed
24:22
Speaker 3: him the targets. And Bellinger catches everything thrown to him.
24:26
Speaker 3: He just doesn't get it that often. But now they're
24:29
Speaker 3: going to have to depend on those guys with again
24:32
Speaker 3: the desolate wasteland out receiving corps yep. So I think
24:37
Speaker 3: other than the defensive side of things, that's what they're
24:40
Speaker 3: going to have to do, because otherwise it's going to
24:42
Speaker 3: be too easy to focus on the run game with Campskataboo,
24:46
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart. The Giants are expecting Tyrone Tracy back, but again,
24:51
Speaker 3: that's They're not going to have success playing nineteen fifties
24:55
Speaker 3: ball if they can't throw the football.
24:58
Speaker 2: Right exactly exactly what to close this out here? What
25:01
Speaker 2: are the Eagles going to need to hit on for
25:03
Speaker 2: a win this week against the Giants? What are your
25:05
Speaker 2: thoughts there?
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Speaker 3: Honestly, just play a clean game, yeah, yeah, don't if
25:10
Speaker 3: they can avoid killing themselves with penalties, with turnovers, yeah,
25:17
Speaker 3: with just giving away possessions or letting the Giants hang
25:21
Speaker 3: around if they do score. I think that's really what
25:25
Speaker 3: they need to do because I mentioned it before. Inconsistencies
25:29
Speaker 3: just all over the Giants is have that has really
25:33
Speaker 3: been their achilles heel this this year, but even longer really,
25:38
Speaker 3: And you know that's leading to some very serious questions
25:42
Speaker 3: at least around the fan base and the Giants media
25:45
Speaker 3: ecosystem at with respective Brian Dabel's job so right now
25:51
Speaker 3: that if you want to beat the Giants, just play clean.
25:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is going to be there.
25:57
Speaker 2: Let's say it comes down to consistence, inconsistency and consistency.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds so simple, but not so simple
26:06
Speaker 2: in the NFL these days, folks. It's gonna do it
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Speaker 2: for us here on our Opposition Territory podcast and our
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Speaker 2: Eagles Giants pregame preview show. We've got Chris Flum from
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Speaker 2: Big Blue View, who we are gonna say bye to now.
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Speaker 2: But Chris, it's always great talking to you. Thanks so
26:21
Speaker 2: much for taking the time to jump on here. I'd
26:23
Speaker 2: love to talk to you at some point down the road.
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Speaker 2: My friend, come back and join us. We'll talk more Giants,
26:29
Speaker 2: We'll talk more NFL. I'd love to have you back,
26:31
Speaker 2: my friend.
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