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Patriots Unfiltered 2/17: Could Bill O'Brien return?, Development of Patriots Young LBs, NFL Draft CBs and WRs · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: two hours and anything else NFL and whatever else we
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  Speaker 1: feel like talking about, you know, but no new news
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  Speaker 1: in terms of coaching and any of that. Now, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things. Um, you know, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: was it Tommy Curran still kind of putting it out
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  Speaker 1: there that Bill O'Brien might be in place. Still, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of putting out. A lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of people would just still incredulous there
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  Speaker 1: this could be the plan, Well, I guess, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I would think that with Saban and Belichick's relationship, you know,
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  Speaker 1: can you let me know sooner than later? Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I got a team to get ready, a season
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  Speaker 1: to get ready for two. And one of the things
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  Speaker 1: and I heard um Bert bre Are talking about this
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  Speaker 1: yesterday on my station, which is that one of the
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  Speaker 1: things that may have been a problem early on was
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  Speaker 1: maybe Bill O'Brien wasn't really interested because I think he
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  Speaker 1: had his eye on other things. And one of those
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  Speaker 1: other things he speculated was the Michigan job when Jim
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  Speaker 1: Harball was in the interview process. And now that Harball
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  Speaker 1: is staying, come on, Harball, he's staying with Michigan, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe now Billy Oh is more willing to make a move.
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  Speaker 1: And Bert said that his family never joined him in Tuscaloosa,
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  Speaker 1: but they're still in Houston, so it's not like they here, okay,
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  Speaker 1: if they're in Houston. So I don't know if the
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  Speaker 1: family part of it is as much of a sure
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  Speaker 1: a poll as I originally expect I want to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because Bill O'Brien's been a head coach now in big,
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  Speaker 1: big time college and the NFL. So what do you
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  Speaker 1: like better? Like you've experienced both, Like what do you
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  Speaker 1: like better? And you know, if you had a college
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  Speaker 1: gig again, you wouldn't be being thrown into the teapot
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  Speaker 1: like you were. And that was where had stayed. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he took over a terrible situation you did. And I
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  Speaker 1: bring up the bert anecdote because I think you could
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  Speaker 1: look at it, you could take a step back and say, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he's still in play for the Patriots, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's accurate. I think until the door closes officially,
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  Speaker 1: I think we're always gonna wonder. But I look at
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  Speaker 1: it a different way from what you just said. Fred.
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  Speaker 1: If he's still sort of thinking about college jobs everybody
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  Speaker 1: as much as pro and he had his eye on
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  Speaker 1: the Michigan job, then what you know, what would be
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  Speaker 1: the better way for him to get one of those jobs?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe just staying at out college because you don't see
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  Speaker 1: a lot of colleges court NFL coaches right for those
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. They go
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  Speaker 1: back and Saban did it. Obviously, you know Saban went
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  Speaker 1: back and forth. Chip Kelly's gone back and forth. I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying it doesn't happen. So I just wonder if maybe
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  Speaker 1: he's more interested in college right now? Yeah? Yeah. Does
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  Speaker 1: it feel weird if he did come back and you
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  Speaker 1: still got Joe Judge here or is that? I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it just feels a little. I don't want to say
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  Speaker 1: overkill because they need it, but I don't know, it's
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  Speaker 1: still strange. Maybe he's maybe he's Mick Lombardi. Maybe. I
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  Speaker 1: think if there's this, you know, I think, if there's
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  Speaker 1: a season where you want overkill and I talking about
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  Speaker 1: overkill quilling experienced people in the room, I think this
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  Speaker 1: is the season for it, right you know, I agree, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you have so many of these young, younger,
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  Speaker 1: in less experienced guys on the staff who might have
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  Speaker 1: been thrust into positions that they're not quite ready for.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they need a little bit more time. And you
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  Speaker 1: have a guy, even even if Judge hasn't called plays
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  Speaker 1: or coached, you know, other parts of the offense besides
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers, he still knows the system and he knows
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  Speaker 1: how to and I like it, especially if and this
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  Speaker 1: is a big if, if Nick Kayley is truly being
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  Speaker 1: broomed to be an offensive coordinator. Yea as much support
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  Speaker 1: as he can get until he actually gets the title.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. Yeah, well, and then
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  Speaker 1: think about it. If so we were talking about Joe
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  Speaker 1: Judge and not necessarily being thrilled with him just coming
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  Speaker 1: in as offensive coordinator, if maybe it's it's what you said.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's more Kayley, right, and they're not going to
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  Speaker 1: give him the job, but maybe he's the one who
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  Speaker 1: call his plays. And then maybe Joe Judge is like
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  Speaker 1: the tight ends coach, right, you know, maybe maybe Kaylee
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  Speaker 1: moves to like quarterbacks or something. Yeah, and you just
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  Speaker 1: place and you lost Carmen Brisillo, you know, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Billy Yates isn't ready to be the true offensive
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  Speaker 1: line coach. Maybe you need an experience. Maybe Joe Judge
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  Speaker 1: does that, right, or maybe Matt Patricia does that he
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  Speaker 1: has experienced as an offensive line coach. Like, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things that could still happen.
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  Speaker 1: But until we find out what the plan is as
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I think people are going to have concerns.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think they even know right now? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is that why you maybe leave it open of offensive assistant?
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  Speaker 1: And while we see Mick Leaves that maybe he's the
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers coach. Could be you know, do they know
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  Speaker 1: right now or is it just kind of we know
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be on that side of the ball,
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  Speaker 1: but we're not quite sure that it's going to come.
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  Speaker 1: Could be Are you suggesting that Bill doesn't have a plan,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean it could be possible that Bill says
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  Speaker 1: I'm not ready to make a decision yet. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you have a little flexibility right at this
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  Speaker 1: point in time. I mean, it's uh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just I would welcome Bill O'Brien. I would welcome
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  Speaker 1: Adam Gaze. It's just some kind of offensive coach that
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  Speaker 1: that can come in and have some kind of brand
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  Speaker 1: on the offense. And I mean, I guess if it
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  Speaker 1: was Nick Kelly emerging that would that would you know,
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  Speaker 1: be positive. But I just I don't want to spend
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  Speaker 1: a year trying to figure it out. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to spend a year like this is a valuable year
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  Speaker 1: for Mac Jones And you know, what you've got, the
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  Speaker 1: players that you've got, the free agents that are going
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  Speaker 1: to come up next year. I mean, I think I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned last year you just have born laugh, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't want to take a step
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  Speaker 1: backwards this year, and that that's I think the biggest
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  Speaker 1: concern for everybody. Yeah. Um, NFL news, like I heard
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  Speaker 1: there's some rumblings with Deshaun Watson, like some where he
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  Speaker 1: wants to be a Fowler. Yeah. I think Hatty report
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  Speaker 1: on him yesterday. Yeah, and he's sort of ready to
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  Speaker 1: sort of what did you say? Was it Minnesota? Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: and one other two? One thought Blanket Jackson, No, not
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  Speaker 1: jack I'm um Philly. I don't think it was Philly,
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't my There were two teams that he,
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  Speaker 1: I guess was open to and Minnesota was one of them. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but they opened to him Bucks. See. Now this is
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  Speaker 1: going to get back to Paul and my argument about Brady.
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  Speaker 1: So let's say the Bucks, you know, take a swing
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  Speaker 1: and DeShawn Watson and they hire him. To me, that
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  Speaker 1: creates leverage for Brady if he truly wants to play again.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I think it does. Yeah, Okay, Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: argue with you that it creates leverage. Yeah, I just
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  Speaker 1: if I would Tamper, I would say, screw you can retire. No,
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  Speaker 1: but if he says I want to come back, they
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  Speaker 1: have to pay him, then come back. They're not going
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  Speaker 1: to pay both him in DeShawn Watson, come back and
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  Speaker 1: back up Deshaun Watson, and they're gonna pay Brady. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I would do, because, as you know, the
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  Speaker 1: cap is crap. I'm emotional, I know, but but that's correct.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not the best address of a team. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot of wouldn't be thinking about that the time.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be like sounds like the best quarterback room
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  Speaker 1: in the league. That's that's like sixty five. I do
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  Speaker 1: not allow someone to back me into a corner. That's
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  Speaker 1: all I'm saying. But that's what would happen. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I think he's But isn't that what grunted Zoe
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  Speaker 1: is saying. I don't think Bill O'Brien is happening. Ope,
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  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien will not be the offensive coordinator, according to Zoe,
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  Speaker 1: very decisive. Yes, he went from I don't think too
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  Speaker 1: it will not I think the same sign is happening.
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  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien will not be the offensive coordinator. Uh. One
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  Speaker 1: other thing I want to bring up to is Reese
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  Speaker 1: wrote today about the linebackers, which I liked. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I just I think we've shined a light on that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know, just counting them up
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  Speaker 1: that I was talking to Eric, I mean, there's eleven guys,
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  Speaker 1: eleven inside outside linebackers on the roster. Van Noy and
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  Speaker 1: Judeon are really only two who have played a counting
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  Speaker 1: as being on the roster. Well, just right now, I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: like we counting high tower commins, no free agent, no
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  Speaker 1: free agent, not you know, just right now this very moment,
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  Speaker 1: not the free agents. That's eleven guy. Yeah, yeah, been
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  Speaker 1: counting those two, right, It's like nine guys on the
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  Speaker 1: roster never really done anything here. I mean, you got
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  Speaker 1: the mcmillins and the Tavis of the world. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've played a little bit, but you know, otherwise, as
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  Speaker 1: Reese kind of pointed out, it's you know, why are
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  Speaker 1: they taking these guys? None of them have really emerged.
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  Speaker 1: And he was doing it through the lens of of
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  Speaker 1: Logan Wilson, who was you know, a highly regarded linebacker
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  Speaker 1: when he came out, and how the Patriots traded up
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  Speaker 1: to get josh U j and you know he can't
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  Speaker 1: really seem to find a way to get on the field.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the picture right there, Cooper Cup Andrew Worth.
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  Speaker 1: It's hilarious. He looks like will if every saw Gummo.
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  Speaker 1: He looks like every teenage kid. Yeah. Yeah, but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: but I liked what I mean, I think that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's basically it was like it was like
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  Speaker 1: a summation of our argument Fred, like, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: got to play the young guys. He sticks with it,
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  Speaker 1: he has a plan. He plays the veterans like here.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously if he thought those guys were what, there's no
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  Speaker 1: why in there. Yeah. I think we all know. They
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  Speaker 1: drafted Joshua in the second round. They drafted Chase Winovich
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  Speaker 1: in the third round. They drafted Ronnie Perkins. They drafted
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  Speaker 1: all these guys, and they don't play. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: why they don't play, and we still don't. We don't. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I just I look at their role. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Uch is what he was in college, and that was well,
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  Speaker 1: he's super athletic, But how is he gonna fight? And
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  Speaker 1: we don't. But don't you think that if Ucha came
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  Speaker 1: in or Whenevich came in and like wow, he'd get
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  Speaker 1: more reps and he'd be playing. So you're point, Fred,
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen a super athletic guy in Josh Ucha. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen flashes of speed. Yeah I have. I amn't
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  Speaker 1: I have. I've seen a little bit master He's faster
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  Speaker 1: than the linebackers they have. I don't see. Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's a whole bob. I can't remember. It's not a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I can remember two or three occasions sitting in the
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  Speaker 1: press box saying, oh, okay, he got it. He got
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  Speaker 1: in there fast. He had finished back his rookie season
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty tackle. I forget which quarterback it was, but
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  Speaker 1: I remember one of the more athletic ones they Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think he made a play in the
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  Speaker 1: open field. Yeah, and he's on Josh Allen the play
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  Speaker 1: on TA in the late Miami game. Yeah. But I
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  Speaker 1: just haven't seen a super athletic guy. I know that
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  Speaker 1: that's where we're build on. And I'm not picking on you, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: because you and I have picked on others for their
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  Speaker 1: summer characterizations of of josh Ucha that you and I
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  Speaker 1: have left scratching ahead saying do we yea we watching
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  Speaker 1: another drill? Do we miss something? You know? And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like him off the edge and you know that
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  Speaker 1: bend and stuff. But you know, like it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: like a middle linebacker. He doesn't look like you know,
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  Speaker 1: going forward. I like him going forward. Put that on
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  Speaker 1: the checklist of you know, we always talk about things
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be looking for in camp. You a
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  Speaker 1: linebacking cores, you know, well, we're gonna be looking for
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  Speaker 1: differences between not just not just at linebacker, but I
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  Speaker 1: think on the roster in general. With a few you know,
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  Speaker 1: long time veterans probably not coming back. Uh and you
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  Speaker 1: only currently have six draft picks and roughly twenty million
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  Speaker 1: in cap space, it's not going to be a huge
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  Speaker 1: offseason for team building as far as getting new players
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  Speaker 1: in here, or at least high level new players in here,
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  Speaker 1: So you might have to kind of go with what
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  Speaker 1: you've got on the roster, right, I think all signs
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  Speaker 1: appointing to that. That's yeah, Yeah, that's that's what I
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  Speaker 1: think too, Because I mean, like I said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've got nine guys, like, can you go out and
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  Speaker 1: sign three more? And and then you know these guys
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  Speaker 1: are just gonna fall by the wayside or you know, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, that just doesn't seem effective. And I
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  Speaker 1: think you're right. I think as I'm gua more and more,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, man, it probably makes sense to just kind
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  Speaker 1: of retains as many of your own guys that you can,
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  Speaker 1: let the guys retire, let these other young guys play
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more, maybe take some lumps with them now.
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  Speaker 1: But and this is what I don't like about the
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  Speaker 1: way that they've gotten themselves in this position. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying it's absolute every time it happens this way.
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  Speaker 1: But so Winovich j Perkins, Jennings, Right, there's a four
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  Speaker 1: draft picks in the last three years. Yeah, so let's
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  Speaker 1: just say for arguments sake, Winovich gets twelve and a
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  Speaker 1: half sacks this year as a full time playing You're like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: this is great. Well, then he's gone in the last
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  Speaker 1: year of his deal. Everybody looks and says, now we
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  Speaker 1: got to get that guy. Gonna give him fifty million
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  Speaker 1: next year, and you know, and he goes like, but
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  Speaker 1: he loves New Hampshire, so you have that going for you,
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  Speaker 1: you know Ucha. Let's say Ucha really emerges, Well, now
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  Speaker 1: you got him and he's entering the last year of
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  Speaker 1: his deal, and then he might look at it and say,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to sign an extension. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: cash in, right, you know, Perkins a little bit younger.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit more to that story. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I just when you delay the starting point for these guys,
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  Speaker 1: you take a valuable year of cheap labor off of
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  Speaker 1: the you know, the equation. Yeah, and as much as
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  Speaker 1: I tell you, I think the cap is crap, and
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  Speaker 1: I honestly believe that. I don't just play that as
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  Speaker 1: a role. It is. It is there. It does exist,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: like you can work around it, but it is I
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: think a really it's an advantageous spot to have guys
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: on rookie contracts that are making major contributions, and I
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: think we sometimes go out of the way, go out
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: of our way, not to necessarily get as much as
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: we could out of them. I think for josh uj
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: to play six plays, three of them being kneel downs
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and that Buffalo playoff game doesn't make any sense to me.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: So I can say in that game, I can sit
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: here and tell you I don't really see this explosive,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: uber athletic linebacker. But does that mean I think he
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: shouldn't play like period? Yeah? You know Winovich was inactive
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: in that game, right, yep? You know Anthony Jennings. So
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Mike writes this, Mike writes this a lot. He showed
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: up for camp a little bit out of shape, so
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: he just lost the whole year. They just banished him
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: to Siberia because he wasn't in the proper shape. Yeah,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and I think Bill he sometimes I think he tries
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to make a point to a fault. You know. It's like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not making an exception for this
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: young guy, because I want every guy to know that
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: if you don't do this, this isn't gonna happen. So
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: now you're year three, the guy has not played it,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: really has not played. He's just not doing it the
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: way I want him to do it. And I am
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: not making an exception for him. I don't know, but
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: it feels that way. Yeah, you know, I agree, I agree,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and I think that's what you know, Paul was kind
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: of kind of saying, I mean I know that. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: think there was some kind of injury. I know there
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: was a death in the family and there were some
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: things going on with him as well. But I think
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you're right, and you had an opportunity in twenty twenty,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and I think they took advantage of it to some
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: extent by getting some of those guys some experience, but
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: none of it carried over to this season. I mean,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: they gave Toures halla bunch. He was hurt the whole year.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I mean when of Itch completely fell off the cliff ouch,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: everyone was pumping up like he was the next thing,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and like Paul said, he barely played. So I just
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: how does that all play out? Did they bring other
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: guys in if high Tower and Collins are gone? Um,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: did those guys, those guys people to step up? And
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: they even given the opportunity. And I wonder if part
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: of his calculus was that, you know, after signing all
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: those free agents last offseason and Mac getting the job,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and they start to go on this little bit of
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: a role and he's thinking, maybe we have a shot.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I need to go with the guys I know have
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: produced for me in the past. I'm gonna stick with
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: what's familiar, and it looked like it was rolling there
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: for a while, that seven game winning streaks. So it's like, okay, we're,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: you know, at one point with the number one seed,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: so got to keep playing these guys, and then it
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: kind of falls apart. And that's the question. If they
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: hadn't done that, if the opposite happened, and it looks like, yeah,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: we ain't Yeah, would these guys have played you know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: maybe yeah, But would you have brought Collins back? I mean,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: they brought Collins back in the middle of the season
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: when right, you know, And and I think many people
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: would probably argue that he was better than you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, like the better than van
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Noyan high Towers. So I don't know it's all about that.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I think I was disappointed, certainly the least impressive of
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: his three stacks. Yeah, I mean, you know, they put
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: him in, they put him in, and they put him
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: in situations where to make plays, and he didn't do it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I don't think they got
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: much out of any of those three guys. I think
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: van Noy probably the most. I think van Noy was okay,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: but I don't think he was very good for large
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: stretches of the season too. I think he got hot
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: like a lot of other guys in that seven game
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: winning streak. Yeah, I can't complain about van Noy, but
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: high Tower had maybe two games where you said, oh,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that's the old Dante high Tower, But mostly he wasn't
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And you know, like there was that story early in
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the season that he came out and kind of said,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm being asked to do different things, and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: other people kind of stuck up for him, like he's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: doing what he's supposed to be doing. I don't know, man,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I you know, they had nothing. They had
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: nothing at the end of the year. So that's the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: prism you kind of look at it through. But I'd
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: be curious with Vanno. I mean, I know he's got
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: another year, like you said, I mean, a pretty good year.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: So it's just one of the weird position groups where
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: they have a bunch of guys and nobody's really done anything.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Like like cornerback they don't really have enough guys. They
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: need to go get guys one way or another. But linebacker,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it's a good point, like you need they have a
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: lot of bottle, a lot of quarterbacks, they don't really
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: even have a lot of body, right, you know, even
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: offensive line without you know, Trent and Caress as free agents,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: like you have some poles there you gotta fill, you
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: don't really have maybe on when you can land in
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: one of those spots. But it's not like linebacker where
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: there's like I said, it's like, guys, say, how many
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: times can you really say, you know when you're looking
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: at that end zone shot that you saw a Patriots
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: linebackers filling gaps and stopping a run play, you know
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that type of thing. And I think those were the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: high tower plays where you know those few games where
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: he came down and he put his shoulder into you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: some poor unsuspecting offensive guard who's trying to pull and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and that I think he's still he still
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: had But and I think the other point to Reese's
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: thing too, that I mean using it as a jumping
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: off point four discussion. Um, you know, it's just schematically
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and I think that's what everybody's you know, you're kind
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: of prisoners of that last game and Devin Lloyd and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: we need these like a mobile linebacker and that'll fix
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: all the problems. I don't know. I don't know if
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it will I and maybe they need to adjust things
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And but if there's not gonna be
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: any defensive personnel changes, then it's it seems like it's
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be well along what we've seen. And I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: think just catching up on some of the the mock
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: drafts that have come out, I think ESPN had a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: couple of their you know, mcshan and Kuiper had their
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: mocks come out and they both had cornerbacks and then
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: come into New England in the first round. Okay, yeah, fine, Yeah,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with that too. Yeah, because they need help there.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Like Paul said, they hardly have you know, anybodies at
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that start of the one part about what Reese wrote
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: about the linebacker, and I know that, you know, like
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Mike's Mike said, like he focuses on Logan Wilson, who
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you know, let's be honest, a lot of people probably
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: never even heard of until the playoffs, even though he's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: been a good player for the for the Bengals. But
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I just think that his skill set and his you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: his his numbers, his physical numbers is in the same
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: kind of range size wise and weight wise is is Uja.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: He plays that kind of style. I just don't see
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Jay as being a guy who's going to contribute in
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the you know, in coverage. I think going forward, moving
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: toward the line of scrimmage. I think I made this
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: point during the summer when Zoe Um you know, famously
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: said that's a good point, Paul, that that Matt plays
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: all the time. He when he's going forward, I think
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: he can be disruptive. And I think that he has
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a knack of rushing the passer. Let's let's sort of
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: take the reins off a little bit in pigeonhole. Guys,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: if that's what they do, if they can do something,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: they don't have to be Lawrence Taylor rushing the passer.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: They can still be contributing rushing the passer. I don't
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: think that we necessarily need to look at a guy
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: who does everything. Well, yeah, I feel like that's what
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: they're certain. I think Bill again, I'm thinking, I think,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I preface that because we all do you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: they don't. We're not. We don't want to come across
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: we're ing more about football than But I think Bill
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: projects and he's like when he looks at a team
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and dissects their film. He looks for every weakness on
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that team, and so when a guy can only do
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: one thing, he looks at that as a weakness when
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: he's on the field, and he just assumes, because he
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: does it, every other coach is going to say, Oucha's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: out there, let's let's run the ball because he can't
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: tackle worth beans, you know. And I think he just
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: projects that way, and he just feels so, you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: has such discomfort having guys out there that can't play both,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you know, to a certain level. Yeah, you know. I mean,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: there's only so many of those guys though, I know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and that's I know, but he you know, I think
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: it's very few and far between where he'll put a
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: guy out there that can only do one thing. Yeah,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And that's and that's what I wonder. And this is
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: probably the big kind of picture of it all. If
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the final act of Bill Belichick is just expecting too
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: much out of these players and not being able to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: get everything he needs out of guys like he used to.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what changed, if it's the type
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of players, or you know, if his expectations changed, but
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it just seems like on both sides the ball. The
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: last five years, four or three, four or five years,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: they just had trouble being able to find the players
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that can do what they want to do. And I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: think that's, you know, part of the point with with
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Reese and with the offense, the offense offense, Is it
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: time to dumb things down a little bit? Is it
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: time to you know? And then and it's it's just
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: such a weird conversation to have, like I don't want
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to say it that way of like dumb it down,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: but it's just if you can't find guys to do
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: what you want to do and you cannot create a
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: team that you want to create, I think you have
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to adjust what you're looking for and how you're trying
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to go about it. And you know, I know this
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: year was a little bit of a bounce back from
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: what we saw last year, but but not that much.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was still a lot of
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the same elements that we saw, especially on the defensive
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. So and that might be the
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: case with Ucha and who knows, Perkins if we ever
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: see him, and maybe Jennings, but with Winovic, I'm gonna
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: side with coaching decision there because he just gets out
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of position. You know, he takes the long way to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Grandma's house. I do think he's on disciplined. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: he gets stoned, you know, right, well what I mean
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: like a blocker, you know, um it's a football term.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: But but but here's like the thing too, like and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and Paul, you do the draft, like none of these
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: guys like screen Patriots coming out like in the in
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the draft. It's not like like, you know, you look
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: at some of these guys. Now when when like linebacker
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: comes out and you see all right, six four two
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: fifty Jennings right like to me was an old school linebacker.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I just feel like that guy is being phased out
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of the game, right. And that's and that's my point
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: is then you look at Perkins, Winovich and Uch. None
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of them really fit that dynamic. All of those especially
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: right He's especially there was a yeah, hand down defensive end,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: go get the quarterback. Um. And so I think when
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: they took those guys, what does this signify a scheme change?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: We're spending a high draft pick on a non six
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: three two fifty linebacker does that? But then they draft
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: but then they don't play him. So I it's it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: all all confusing, and I just I'm wondering what direction
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: they're going. And this year I think will force that hand.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, I like Reese's
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Piecealy sparked to me just all that, you know, what
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: are you gonna do? You can't cut all these guys
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and then bring on all new guys. He drafted all
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: these guys. You got to give him a chance at
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: some point. And I mean he even seems a little
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: bit higher on Ronnie Perkins than you know, we didn't
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: see anything Perkins. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not down
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: on Ronnie Perkins. I'm just going by what I've seen,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and that's nothing. Yeah, so I have to think that
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: here's where I side with you a little bit. Fred.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: The guys that don't play at all, I don't think
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that's Bill Belichick wasting Lawrence Taylor, right, Like I think
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: he hasn't really seen much from a guy like j Winovich.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Those guys that they're in the game plan sometimes they're
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: out of it. Other times I wonder what, you know, what,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: why why? Yeah Perkins, Anthreny Jennings, they haven't been part
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: of anything at all. Yeah, all right, eight five five
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: hundred is the ace ticket Hutline web radio at Patriot
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: dot com. Um So talk about all of that, but
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: really anything you want. It's unfiltered off season, so kind
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: of in that dead period after the Super Bowl to
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: get wild and crazy. What do you guys think? I mean,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I'm late to this party. But super Bowl it was fine?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: You liked it? Yeah, my my perfectly adequateness. My executive
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: summary was the game was good, the halftime was okay. Yeah,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the commercials were mah yeah, yeah, sniff, that's it's not
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: bad that I pretty much agree with that. I thought
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it was a game went down on the wire, so
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it was excitement there. I don't think it was a
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: great game. I don't think it was a terrible game.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I think that it was fine. No, it was fine.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: It was fine. It was a fine It was a
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: fine game. I thought it was. At one point I
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: was thinking, boy, the refs really haven't had any part
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: in this game. And then all of a sudden, the
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: ball at the end and all of a sudden they're
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: calling tiki tax stuff and in the red zone, And
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I said to Duce, maybe it wouldn't have mattered. Maybe
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the rams would have scored anyway, but if they held
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: them to a field goal, now the Bengals still have
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a lead with less than two minutes to go, and
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: maybe that changes things a little bit, and you know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: who knows what happens at that point. But my favorite
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: commercial was Larry David and the Currency. Yeah, I'm never
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: wrong about these things, right, Yeah, I will say pretty good,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: But you're right, it hasn't been a good like past
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: five or so years for commercials. I don't think. Yeah,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about the Bengals and just
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like and the more that we've gone out these last
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: few days, I feel like these guys are gonna be
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: chasing their tails for they got there this year. But
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's just gonna be a grind
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: for them to get back to this position. Why do
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you think that. I just think they're the Bengals, you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: And I hate to like say it that way, but
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: we just we need protection. We gotta get him protected.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna whack them all. You're gonna like
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: draft this awesome offensive line and then you're gonna lose
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase for a year and he you know, and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: he's gonna struggle. It's just gonna be just like with Carson,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: when you thought Carson Palmer and they got something with
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Ochocinko and Hushman Zada and all that, and they just,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you know, they get to the playoffs. He tears his ac.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it seems like it's all
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: lighted up like that. For the Bengals, I don't believe
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that they're gonna be that. And I think that the Rams.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: You know, the Rams won the Super Bowl, congratulations to them,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: but there is like they're kind of an uninspiring super
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Bowl champion, if you know what I mean, even to
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: La fans. Yeah, well right, yeah, that's that's different. But
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: like the they won all their playoff games and probably
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: could have lost any one of them. Yeah, you know
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: what I mean. The way they played like it wasn't
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: like they were a juggernaut, not like the Rams of
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: twenty years ago, where you thought, like I must really
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: do have like that Rams blind spot. Like I think
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: they blew out the Cardinals. I think they blew out
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the Bucks, and only because of their own ineptitude do
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: they allowed that game to get close. San Francisco. They
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: had a chance to lose. Yeah, this game was all
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: about the offense that they lost during the game, they
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: were on the verge of blowing that game. All thought
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: so too. I think they're the best team. I don't
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: think they're like gonna go down. I don't think you're
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: gonna look at them and say like they're like the
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: old four Patriots, one of the great Super Bowl champions
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: of all time. I don't think you'll look at them
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: like that. But they were one of the two or
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: three best teams in football from start to finish all
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the year. And I think it's gonna take a little
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: while for la fans. I mean, like for us, like
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: we had like homegrown guys, you know mcguinnis and Bruskie
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and Brady and you know all our all care about
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: sports in Bostons, like these were our guys and you know,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: right now except for Donald, like they brought guys in.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: If those guys stay for a while, fans, I think fans,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think that has anything to do with it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: You don't, Honest to God, you don't. You don't think
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Patriots fans loved like darrelle Revis. No, I think they did.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: But if it was just Darell Reeves. I think it
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: would be different, but we had Brady and Edelman and
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: these you know, but they're also like Paul said, they're
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: not They don't carry out a sports town. Yeah, it's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: like Dooce will tell you the like the the old
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: adage about Dodgers games, they get there in the third
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and ding they've gone by the sixth and then and
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: each team, each team certainly has and why core of
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: fans that that love that team, but because they balanced. Yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it's just there's so much to do there. But it's
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: also you know, like here sports and that's what it
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: was another reason why they don't go right, Like where
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: is it downtown? Middle of the day? Pass hard pass,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: but like even the sports radio just completely different there.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: It's completely it's not like the drive. Where do you
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: stand on on on parades? Parades? Who does love a parade?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It was little Mikey at the parade. I didn't go
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: to any of the parades? Were you not here? Though
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I was here, I was here and you didn't go.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I see. I think that's telling. Yeah, no one was
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a bigger fan than Mike. Yeah, he had a he
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: had a I'm loged Belichick's cloth. Yeah, but and he
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: didn't find like, I don't think to be fair, the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: criticism that the RAMS fans get for not like, criticize
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: RAMS fans for not going to the games, criticize RAMS
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: fans for allowing San Francisco to have seventy thirty split
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of fans in the NFC Championship. Don't criticize RAMS fans
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: for not going to a Laane parade. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: it's fair. I mean, in fairness, that was kind of specific.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I probably would have been there if I really wanted
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: to be, I maybe would have made it work, but
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it was it's too much. It's a crowd, it's for kids.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Seconds for kids. Yeah, all the media members in the Yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: on the duck boat, right, it's Jeff Howe. Oh god.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: But waffle, but it's weird. Somebody posted that it was
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: a shot of Glenn Gleason from one of the They
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: said somebody threw a waffle at the media thing, and
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: it was like Glenn Gleason holding up just like a
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: lego ego waffle. Somebody through just through a waffle at
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the media. I mean, is it also could it also
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: be that a lot of people that live in the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: LA area are transplants, and ye, they don't even like
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: they like other teams. That could be that's part of
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: it too. It could be the bars are I mean,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: each each team, each college, everybody has their own bar.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: You know, when you'll go on like a Saturday morning
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and like, there's the Michigan bar. They see everybody in Michigan.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Like it always looks like there are people at the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: u USC and UCLA games are like are there are
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: they big college? Yeah? Fans yeah, and especially I mean
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: bigger than you know, the USC. It's on the camp.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You know, it's right there, so it's easier. But I went.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I went to football games for both those teams. Yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: like like those obviously they have support there, but you know,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you'll find a mega Dodger fan and then two feet
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: later you'll find somebody who doesn't even care. And I mean,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's what's what was striking to me when
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I moved back, is you don't really realize it growing
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: up here, but it's such a part of Like I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: always make the joke when you have nothing to talk
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: about with somebody, you talk about the weather, like Boston,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you could talk about sports too. Like that's the other
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: thing you got nothing to talk about with something like
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: everybody has at least some kind of take on what's
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: going on with this point there. It's it's hit or miss.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Some people are completely completely disconnected from it. Is the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: insider perspective, yeah, which which you know West Coast apathy.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: The most striking part of it, I think was when
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the Celtics played the Lakers in OH eight in the finals,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and so then they the disparity between you know, listening
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to the radio in LA and how they were talking
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: about it, and how their fans were talking about and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: then you know, still having my my one foot back
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: here and how they were talking about it. That was
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: what was, you know, most striking of just how how
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: much here it's just such a light here. It's it's
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: in the lifeblood, like you can't wait for the next game,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: ye in all the sports, the big games, Yeah, I don't.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll ever done like that. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: mean the Lakers, the Lakers probably the closest. That's why
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: we're lucky, in all seriousness, We're lucky to do what
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: we do in an area that cares about it as
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: much as they do. And I also imagine there's an
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: element of the front runnerism to LA, like anytime an
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: LA team is winning, everybody wants to be seen at
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: a at a game. The perfect example was my my
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: old boss could not have cared less about hockey Kings
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: are in the finals. She's like, I think we're gonna
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: go to the Stanley Cup finals tonight, Like you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: that's that's the sports Like just like that they're like, oh,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: we should go see. I guess they're gonna win the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: trophy yea. But also being like enough that you could
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: just be like, right, I think the finals tonight. I'll
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: drop a g on a game that I don't have
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: any in trade, something to do. All right, five five
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: hundred is the ace ticket, hut lion. Let's get to it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Will Williams and Philham. What's up, William? What's going on
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: for it? Hey? Hey? How you going on? Um? Well,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: first of all, Eric Hope, I'm glad you're okay and whatnot?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, thank you sir, Yeah, so you too appreciate
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Give him the link to your go fund meach page.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: All right, So, um, if you're working on that one
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: for three days, here name Tom mcshade. That does the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: draft and whatnot. He's one of them. Yeah, I'll see
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: who we got taken. Kyle uh, the Kyl Gordon from Washington,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon. Okay, I will pick another point. I mean
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I would get him in the second round. Honestly, I
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like Trent mcduffy um uh. It's a mind gardener. But
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: that's another you know, he's too far. He's probably gone
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: way earlyis doing things. My main top I'm calling for
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: is just wide receiver, and I just I just need
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: y'all listen to me for a minute. I already know
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: how y'all could be a mansion basically just rowing your
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: eyes about it. But Paul, you talked about it Tuesday
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and you said you don't want to receive in the
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: first round. So let me just let me just open
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: your eyes a little bit. Okay, at some point, when
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: do you address this position? I know I call it
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: see and I talked about it a lot, and I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: just want to open your eyes just a minute. Fellas,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Just like y'all say the receiver core is not a need.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: It's oh I think it's a need. I didn't I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: never said I think I think. All right, all right, Okay,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: all right, so I think it, but I think it's
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a big need, right like Okay, So it's like this,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I think we all can agree basically, na kill, Harry's gone,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Gunner's gone. Uh, Jakobe Myers is a free agent. Nelson Aguilar,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: he might be gone until that only person on your
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: rosters that you're gonna have is Kendrick Borne. That pinned
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: it out. So my question is to you, Paul, you
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: know you don't want to receiver in the first round. Okay.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: So and also another topic two with that, when I
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: touched with the follows there which was fred Eric and Mike,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and I told Hi about Jameson Williams. Now they laughed
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: it off whatever, but I want you to hear me
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: on this part there. Jamison Williams is a top ten pick. Okay,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: if he had to, if he didn't have that torn
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: acl Okay, he's gone, He's off the board. Would never
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: see him because of that torn a cl though that
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: plays the partner pushed it down for the patients have
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a chance to get them. They gotta get past the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Saint Yeah, you're past the Saint Cleveland and the Philaephia Eagles.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Of course, my thing is when felt I'm trying to
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I'm start saying when fells, I'm like you didn't once,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: we didn't want to do it. Last year we got
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Trade Nixon. We don't know what he is. He's a
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: seventh round pick because the gentleman picked him, because he's retired,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: because Bill gave it to him. Okay, whenever, fine, but
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: why we keep passing up on this? And this is
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: why you get calls like me Eldred and probably a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: lot of other callers that were just like, we need
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: we need receivers like we need those dogs. Man, those
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: guys that's gonna you know that outside receiver in that slot.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: So my thing to you is, don't get me wrong.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I want the linebacker position. Take here, the corner, the
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: defensive line. Okay, I'm with y'all all on that. But
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: my question always will always be when when you know
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: what I mean, when stay two picking the wrong challenge
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and stop making it so hard, because day two would
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: be my answer when I would I would do it
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: in day two. I don't. I don't want to ignore three.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna get a guy like Williams looking for
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: at number forty three or whatever? I will get a
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: guy who will do more in twenty twenty two than
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Williams will in the Round two. I don't think Williams
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: is going to give you much next year. Yeah, so
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: if you're content to just kick the season, then sure,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: if you think that Williams is that good that he's worth,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: you know, waiting a year for I wouldn't kill them
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: for that. I just think they have more pressing needs.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: And I think the reason why I like the Day
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: two wide receiver is doesn't make me right, but I
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: feel like that annually is the deepest position in the draft.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I think there are more good wide receivers in every
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: draft than any other position. So I can get the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: fifteenth wide receiver somewhere, you know, in the middle to
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the end of the second round. Who I think? I mean,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: would you rather have Terry McLaurin or Hollywood Brown? Terry,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have Terry McLaurin. He was a Day two pick.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown was a first round pick around where you're
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: going to be picking, by the way, So and now listen,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: would I'd rather have Justin Jefferson than Terry McLaurin. I'd
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: rather have Justin Jefferson another guy. So I want to
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: be fair. I'm going to give you examples off the
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: top of my head from both sides. I just impressed
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: myself with that. By the way, that's Fred's guy, justin Jefferson.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Fred loved just to Jefferson. So to your point, William,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would be complaining about using a
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: first round pick on a wide receiver. I had it
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: been a guy like that, Yeah, you know, And that's
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: where William's coming from, So I see it. I do
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: think it's a big need. Yeah, they need a playmaking
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, not just a guy to fill a role. Yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and I and I agree with that. I think, you know.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: The point that I think he was referring to is that,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you know, and what he laid out. I think Aglore's back,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I know Born's back. Myers is a restricted free agent,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he's going to be back. So you got three guys.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I know that that's not enough right now. But you
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: need a starting cornerback, you need a starting right tackle,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you need a starting left guard. So this is that's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: what you're kind of comparing it to. It's all right,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you would you rather draft a cornerback who's going to
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: come in at twenty one and start and play right away,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: or do you want to wait a year for Jamison Williams,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: who you know, maybe yeah, down the line is going
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to be better, But meanwhile you're gonna be trying to
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: figure it out at cornerback. So it's a balancing act.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I agree with the general point. I'm I'm with Paul.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I think that that your point about every year, these
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: are so deep. You can go right down the list,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: um of all these guys, Christal Lave I know he's
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: got tons of fans out there as well, UM, Garret Wilson,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the guy from Ohio State that I that I might
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: be my favorite. Um, you know, as we're getting into these,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: but this it's deep. There's guys, there's guys there, and
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, everybody's gonna have some issues,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of needs and that's it's hard
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: to balance. And you know, I just you guys have
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: been doing this longer than I have, and I've always
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: felt like it's just every year, everybody wants a wide receiver.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Every year, for the most part, what you got people
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: want and they did take one and they didn't look out.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: People want shiny objects, people want skill guys that they
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: can quantify. Yeah, and I and I get that. I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: do too well, you knee. I mean, I like I
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: need him. How many times have I told you do
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: your offensive line in your own time? If they take
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: a tackle at twenty one, I will not argue unless
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it's like the seventh tackle taken, right. I don't want
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to do that either. But you know, this is supposedly
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a reasonably strong class of offense tackles. I know a
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: couple of them have a chance. One of them is
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: gonna might go number one overall, the kid from Alabama. Right,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: So if you could somehow get like the third or
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: fourth tackle and he's sliding and he's in the middle
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of the teams and they moved up to get them,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to that, right, And I don't
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you know me, I just plug somebody out and getting away.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And certainly not the people who call in and write
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: all year about how much they hate Isaiah Win should
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: complain about that either. I mean, this is you know
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: you've got there's a chance that you could lose three
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: starters off your offensive line. Man, you know, the's a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: really good chance you're gonna lose two because two of
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: them are currently free agents and in carras in Trent Brown,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: what if you make a deal for win and you
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: send them out, now that could be three and even
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: if you don't, it's not a great spot to be
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: in when you have an opening at one of your
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: starting spots and you have a one year one where
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: left on a contract of your other starting spot. Yeah,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and I don't think they have obvious guys to replace
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: him unless you you think of a when you more
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: as a tackle, and it doesn't look like they think
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, because I think they had a chance
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: to make him a tackle last year and they didn't
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: really love what they saw. Yeah, that's why it was better.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: It just when they went from Light to Solder, when
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: they went from uh and the game Voren to James
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: White like they in the past, they Solder year by
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the way, right, succession plans that don't really seem to
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: be happening anymore now. Solder ended up having to play
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: because of injuries. But yeah, you know, like Matt Light
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: was still under contract when they drafted Solder, so that
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: was like red shirt year Stodder Yep, same with Vereene
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and White, right, I mean that's just that has it
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: just doesn't really seem to be that forethought right now,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: like cornerback. You know, there's nobody like that was the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: thing last year. Not not that I would trade Mac
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: or Barmore, but you know you'd love to have a
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: all right, well, yeah we might lose Jac, but you've
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: got a young guy that you could maybe pairfum. That's
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: an okay place to start the offseason. We can build,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: We control raft, we can build around that. But there's
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: not much there. Let's go to Andrew in La. What's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: up Andrew it Worthy? Hey guys, it's Whitworth right. Hey,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: man got the Santa Claus but here and everything. No.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say because when Mike was talking
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: about living in California, I'm a transplant from the East
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Coast with my entire family, and it's like amazes me
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: how much like sometimes misguided and wrong, but Bostonian fans
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: they know what they're talking about the sports. But out
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: here it's so different, Like I can go up to
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: someone and just you know, like casual conversation, I instead
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: of talking about the weather, talk about sports. And I
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: hardly follow the Lakers or the Clippers or the Dodgers,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and I know more than like ninety percent of the
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: people out here. And I know I'm obsessed with sports,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: but I only know probably a little bit above average
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: about sports than the next guy. But it's so shocking
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: to me how different it is the cultures and how
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the East Coast is obsessed with sports and out here
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: there's so many distractions. And I just it totally spoke
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: to me because we both lived out on the West Coast,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: me and Mike, So it's super true. Though. Yeah, I
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: had a quick, quick side story. I had a funny experience.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I went to, um, there's a I think it's called
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the NFLPA Bowl. There's like it's one of the like
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: lesser known little bowl games that they do, and it
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: was one of the first years they did it. They
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: did it at that stadium in Carson where the Rams
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: or the Chargers had played for a year and so
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: before yeah, soccer stadium. So before they did the Bowl,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: they had like a media day, and I was like,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, I took the day off work out
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: of my little blocks, but I put my blogger hat
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: on and I'm like, oh, an opportunity. I have a
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: clothing blog. Yeah, So I went down and you know
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: there were there were some some notable people there. But
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the funniest part to me, there were these two crazy
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Ram fans, like these guys probably in like their fifties, sixties,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: like kind of hippie long like all the old Jerseys everything,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: and they are fired up because they want the Rams
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: back in Los Angeles like you wouldn't believe and I
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: just I couldn't believe it, like these guys, and they're
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: like interrupting panels, like solely there for the purpose to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: figure out when the Rams could come back, and these
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: guys could have their team back, the first people I
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: thought of when the Rams won. But you know, it's
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: like they are out there, they are They're all some
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: real fans out there. I think there's like behind our
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: league hockey teams that have rabid fans and Chard van
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Bury treasures Like me and Richard in Northeastern game right exactly,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: we were fired up man Raiders span Yeah, you see
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: more Raiders fans out here than like diehard Rams or
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Chargers fans. Yeah, I totally forgot about Chargers. I can't imagine.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: But that goes that goes back to I mean that's
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: northern California. That's a different animal, isn't it. Well, they
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: were there briefly. No, no, No, I'm saying, like I
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: think California. If you think of like a diehard California
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: sports nation, it would be the Raiders, right yeah, and
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: they originated in northern California. So yeah, I wonder is
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: it different like that? It's a little bit different the
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants and the Raiders in the forty nine ers.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Are they a different breed than southern California. Yeah, I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: got a little more vibe but limited time up in
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the north, but I felt a little bit more like
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: it was like southern California. Yeah, yeah, so cal. I mean,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know how the Chargers lasted as long as
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: they did, and I'd love to know, you know what
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: the what the metrics are for support now in LA
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: for the Chargers, because nothing, nothing. They had more support
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: in San Diego zero point zero on the Richter sk
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not making that. I mean that's that's
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: like a stadium done in San Diego because that's a
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: great four hours from San Diego. So no one's making
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: that drive. That was that was the question you always answered,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: How long is it? Two and a half to five hours,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: depends on what, depends on what theme you go. Yeah, hey,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: thanks Andrew. I appreciate the perspective from out there. Patty's
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: an ago on what's up? Patty? They called it fan diago, yes,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: which is German? What does that mean? And I won't
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: finish that thought, but so UM put me in the
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: camp of I definitely want to to you. But that's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: what I've been talking about the last few calls, UM,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: But obviously not knowing what's gonna happen with J. C. Jackson,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they do take a cornerback high with
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: their first round pick. But UM, had any of you
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: guys seen any any tape on Christian Watson from North
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Dakota State at all? No? No, he um crickets if
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen highlights when uh and not granted I just
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: saw highlights, but like when Trey Lance was their quarterback
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: and he was throwing them the ball, he looked like good,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: like he could separate. And I don't know, if you
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: look at this past year's highlights, he doesn't doesn't look
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: like he's getting much separation. I don't know if it's
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: that got anything to do with him or the quarterbacks
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: throwing the ball. But I'm just I'm just sort of
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: spitballing because I know I brought up like Metchi and
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: wat Jan Dale Robinson, guys that they could possibly get
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: in the second round, and m I'm I'm with Eldred,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I'm with the first call or too. I want to
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: see a guy that can that can make some plays,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you know, not just these five yard dump off and
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: do something with it. Yeah, And I've been saying, I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: feel like nikkil Harry has scared me off a little
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: bit because there's a lot of big receivers in this class. Again,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and you know it's just and then you throw it
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: on and it's downfield, contest to catch downfield, contest to
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: catch downfield. You know, Drake London, um Burks from Arkansas,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of those guys, says Patty. I
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: think that's the that's the place I'm kind of struggling
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: right now, is I want a guy who can get open.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I want a guy who's quick that they can move
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: around the formation. If he's you know, Will Williams. I mean,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't turn any of these guys down, but
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I just think you have to be strategic about it,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: knowing what we know about what they're going to be
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: asked to do here. And you know who's going to
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: be consistently making plays? Is it? You know the guys
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: who are gonna you're gonna chuck it down the field,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: like you get it. If it's Jamar Chase, great, like yes,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: but you know, sometimes these guys are just big bodies
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: that stretch the field. And I'd rather have a guy
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: that's gonna catch eighty to one hundred balls and be
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the go to guy in third down and gotta have
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: it moments. A guy who can shake loose and get
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: open and produce. Yeah, he's describing Jacobe Myers like eight,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: you know, some odd passes that you know, like, unless
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: he's making plays, I need more than that. Yeah, Like
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: that's my thing. Like I know that everybody has this
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: romantic vision of the offense when the centerpiece was Welker
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and Brown and Edelman. I don't know that this version
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: of the offense will operate like that. I don't. I
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know that. And I would rather
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: have a guy who makes life a little bit easier
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: on Mac Jones. So instead of having to hit Welker
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: eight times on a drive to get it down inside
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the ten. Maybe I can just catch one yea and
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: pick up a fifty yard chunk with it. I agree
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: with Mike. I don't need an outside, big deep threat.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: That all he that's all he does. I'm not interested
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: in that. But I am interested in a Jamar Chase
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: who can catch slants and taking the disc. Jamar Chase
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: is not a one trick and he doesn't just go
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: down there. Even those guys like the Bob hayes Is
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: of the past, there's very few of those in the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: league now, even a Jamar Chase who'll go over the middle.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He's not a deep threat, right
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Like even the deep threats do other things. In today's NFL.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: He can get deep, but he does a lot of
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: other things, and Bob Hayes I do. Yeah, I don't
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: need a track star. Um. I agree with with Mike
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: on that on that point. I just I am not
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: with everybody else that it has to be the way
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: that they've always done it. They have to get a
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: guy who's more of a traditional slot guy and throw
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the ball to him every play. I don't need I
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: don't need that unless the guy is great. If if
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the guy can make all kinds of guys miss and
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: make plays after they catch, fine, But I don't need
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: a guy to catch eighty five passes in averaging nine
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: point six per per reception. I don't need that. Grab
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: that already With Jakobe Myers, Grassie asked Burt on Burton Island.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Anyone to know where Burton Island is? You guys are great,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: but I have a slight complaint. Whether it's Josh or
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: b Flow or any other team news, a lot of
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: times you guys just start in with your takes without
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: first saying what it is that happened. A week or
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: two ago, you all started a pining on the nude
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: to Flake Gates stuff, and I was just thinking, wait,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: did you just tell me what actually happened first. I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: don't read a newspaper, and I'm not big on social media,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: so often I'm relying on humps like you to tell
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: me what's going on in the world, or at least
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: in Patriots Nation. Okay, I was on the island. I mean,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you don't know what happened with the flat game. I
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: think he means the recent years, but I think I
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: don't even know what he's talking about, but I think
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: what are we talking? I think about we talk about
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: a topic. We we always start and then we say
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: we should catch everybody up. Yeah, maybe we didn't. I
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Florio cited uh, you know, you know books by the
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Way to promote his book. Um, um, that I mentioned
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: that Hee's got a book out. Um you know, okay. Yeah,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Florio came out with some stuff about the flake aid
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and that the league covered stuff up and so correct. Yes,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I thought we did talk about that. We did, okay,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: but you know, feel free to email at the time
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: and say, hey, what are you guys talking about? And
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: maybe he listens after the fact. Oh that could be
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: he could be a podcast listener. Traditional podcast, that's true, um,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Alex writes in looking you never heard of that. That's
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: a term I made. Traditional tradition, like in the olden days,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: when you know podcast like five years ago, a traditional podcast,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: you know it is not necessarily meant to be listened
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: to live download and they're scripted like half hour to
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Very precise. Doesn't interest me. No, Alex and Pentuckett.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I had a thought based on the McVay speculation of
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: him hiring after winning UM one Super Bowl? What reason
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: would a coach have to do that. Bill has been
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: coaching for so long. I don't know fifty million reasons
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: for it. I find it interesting that after one win
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: there's speculation he could retire. Is this a new trend
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: coaches will start to pick up? I would be intrigued
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: to see what you guys think. If you care about it,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: pay him. Yeah, it's a money thing. I think same
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald and his like maybe he already walked
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: at that, his agents pissed at him. Yeah, but what
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: do you know, and I thought we talked about this,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, I mean some people, you know, speculate
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: mcveigh's got a sweet deal with a network that he could,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: you know, have to work and if if he doesn't
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: want to coach, he just doesn't have a passion to coach,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: then that's that's a whole different thing. Yeah. I think
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: this is a money ploy. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Other
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: people speculated that he doesn't see the future of the
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Rams being that bright. I can assure you that. Okay,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: yesterday he's like imploring everybody to run it back. Yeah right,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: there's his favorite expression with that that's Sean McVeigh. I
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: get I'm coming back, and you can hear the dinner
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: of the crowd every time he says, run it back.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Who are these guys? What are you doing? What is
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: this right now? I mean this is this a kickoff?
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: What are the rams? What is he talking about? Is
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: there a football game going on? What is this? Uh?
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Tony writes in Fred said, sometimes Bill makes a point
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: to a fault. Well, thank god, he would never do
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: that in the Super Bowl if, for example, his best
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: cornerback got into a heated argument with a coach and
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: then other coaches. At least he wouldn't do that. Is
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that what happened? Yeah, we don't know. So I don't remember.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: We know we didn't play. It's all speculation. I don't
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: remember much of that game. We were talking about super
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: don't remember much of that game. No, I don't know.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I'm back and forth. The last two Super Bowls are
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: kind of a blur in my mind. And meanwhile, like
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I can recall everything in the first, like you know,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: bunch of them, but it is different when you're working
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: it the last, the last super Bowl, the thirteen to three, right, remember,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: like not much? Okay, So that that's probably tells me
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: that you know a lot. You probably thought it was
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: kind of a dull game, right, you know, I've gotten
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: asked that before, And I was so in the moment
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: of the tension that it wasn't really boring eliminate. I
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: was eliminate the tension. It's a compi game, and I
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: know that no one cares at all about my low
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: level college boys. The bean Pot championship game the other
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: night was as boring a game as I've watched. I'm
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: still on the edge of my seat. My team's playing
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: for a championship, right. It was nothing. Nothing. Neither side
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: had a sniff of offense for the entire game. It
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: sucked who won? Yeah? What they scored with two minutes left?
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Fifty eight minutes of scoreless hockey, Like the game could
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: go either way, and it was. I'm telling you, it
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: was as boring as boring could be. Did you throw
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: your diet pepsi? No? It just wasn't, wasn't it. But anyway,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't really feel like that Super Bowl was like
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: riveting action other than the fact that it was three
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: to three in the fourth quarter and the Super Bowl
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: is hanging in the bounce right. It felt kind of
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: similar about this game on Sunday. But I got one
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: guy after another that sucked. That sucked, That sucked, Bengals,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: What are they thinking about? That game sucked? It's funny
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: every time that we talked about it on this show,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: about the thirteen to three game, and we mentioned that
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: we thought it might have been a little boring. Do
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: you remember how we got attacked? Yeah? What are you
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: talking about? It was really exciting. I thought it was.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you thought that game
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: was exciting, but you didn't think Sunday was. And I'm
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: not saying I just said, I'm not saying you individual. Well,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I know, Eric wasn't. I know you listened to my station.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I know you listened to my stations a lot. I'm
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: being accused. No, no, no, not you. I know, but
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I know you listened to my stations a lot. Don't
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: tell me you didn't hear at one after another that
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: game sucked. That game sucked. People like to complain, but
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: god forbid, you said that the Super Bowl fifty whatever
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: was fifty three was boring. It was a masterpiece of
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: defensive I'm not going to say that, but hunting prowess
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: was awful, Like if you didn't care who won, it
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: was an awful game. I'll bring up an interesting one
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: I saw on Twitter a little twitt that was going
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: on tweets when they fight. Somebody brought up the point
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: of Dante Scarnekia how it was a genius coaching in
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: that Super Bowl to eliminate Aaron Donald, to make him
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: a genius, to make him a non factor. Whatever they
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: did was genius, And somebody brought up the point. Yeah,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: but they did it at a cost. They they had
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: so much effort to eliminate Aaron Donald that they only
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: couldn't score scoring thirteen points. And people just attacked this person.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And he wasn't a blue check mark or anybody. They
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: just attacked this person. I was like, hey, that's kind
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: of a good point right now. It worked, so yeah,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: But I would say the same thing about the Super
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Bowl in Seattle. Do you know what the number one
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: goal in that Super Bowl was stop Michael Bennett? Yeah?
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: He dominated the game, right, you won? No one cares, right, right,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: that's I mean. The coaches are not idiots for the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: most part. Do they make mistakes, They all do, but
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: of course they said. They went into that game and
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: they said, we can't let Aaron Donald dominate this game
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: and disrupt it. But the Rams defense dominated the game
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: and disrupted it. Yeah, just like the Patriots defense dominated
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: the game and disrub Right. Like if if if the
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Patriots had done everything offensively that they did to you know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: defend Donald put up thirteen points and the Rams put
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: up thirty, nobody would be talking about what a genius
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: movement was. But took your Aaron Donald out? Yeah? Right.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: And you know who had a good game that day,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: as much as I hate him is Sue. Yeah, he
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: made some plays in that game. Yeah, So I thought
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: it was a decent point by this person, and everyone
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: just attacked him. They're not saying that Dante Scarnecki's plan
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: didn't work, right, it did. You took out Aaron Donald,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: But at what costs? Right? You know? I feel like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I'm on Paul side of the street because I'm like,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: give credit to Joe Tooney and the offensive line and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: those guys that that executed. I mean, Dante' what's he
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: drawing up? It's not um and and the same point,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the same two of you, and and and despite all times,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: you know, despite all that, it still came down to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: one or two plays and easily be to Fred's point,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: there's ten minutes left in the game and you had
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: three points. So what good is it that you dominated
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald? Which, by the way, you didn't dominate him.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: He just didn't take the game. Old, he just didn't
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: make the two plays he made at the end of
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: this Super Bowl, and that's you know, and they made
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the ground catch that you know that that that's kind
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: of like to Eric's point, if you you know, if
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: you like, there were some games against Houston that they
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: did that to J. J. Watt, but they won the game,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: like thirty seven to fourteen, right, Okay, that's a little different, yeah,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: or Clay Matthews or whatever. You know. Yeah, no, I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: thought I just thought that was interesting, you know, but
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: people just weren't listening to this guy, and you don't
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: know who the guy was. He wasn't a Blue which
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: poor guy got killed. A rational point. The Patriots did
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: an excellent job on Aaron Donald, and that's yeah, I'm
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: not suggesting that there was there was some people defending
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: him finally, but you know, yeah, I just thought it
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: was an interesting discussion, you know, they have people. People
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: don't like to be told something that might go against
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: what they think, and then people can't really take a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: moment and you can still say it was a great
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: win because you know, your defense held the defense this
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: good team to three. The Patriots dominated. Patriots defense dominated
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, well that's what the game to me was.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I knew it was going to come down. That's what
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: you're hanging by a thread, knowing who's gonna make the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: one play that's going to decide this game. And I mean,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: and they did, you know, Ronk Gronk? Yeah, that's it?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Uh jacket and aba? Given what Mike and when you
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: given that he's one of the five Patriots listed in
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: PFF's top one hundred and one players, why wasn't Big
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Mike a start last season? Do you predict that? And
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: when you will be a starter in twenty twenty two?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: And if so, what position? That's a good question. I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: was just writing up the the free agent previews and
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: that was kind of something to dive into because I
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: think he feeds into both Trent Brown's right tackle spot
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: in and Carriss's left guards. I guess his left guard, Yeah,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: but I don't know who's gonna leave. Maybe Carris stays,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I mean Brown leaves. I can make a case for
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Brown in. And so you don't think they'll resign Trent Brown? No, No,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Why do I just think it's too much? He might
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: be too much. Why wasn't it too much last year? Well,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: they had more money last year. I was under contract
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: and he was. Yeah, they traded for him so and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: they had room for so his old contract, right, yeah,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: And I mean he didn't have a tiny contract. But
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I mean by the way he played half the season again,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: like that's what he does. I know. But so I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: think he'd be affordable. I think they could take him.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I'd take both Carris in him back. I would take
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: him back, take him back. That's a different arm. I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: think I don't take him, and I think I think
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I think they both will. I just think they have
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: so many needs that they're going to have to prioritize.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know how. I think Carris has a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: chance to come back, but I do too. I Paris,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I would cash in because I think he played well.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I think he's got value. Trent Brown could be back
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: because I don't think he has any value. Yeah, And
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: that's where I'm at. I mean, he played half the season,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: He's hurt a lot. He seemed to really like being here.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: He's been elsewhere, he's gotten paid before, he's really liked it.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Anything cash dude too. He looks like he's lazy. I
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: know he's a Patriot. In two months, we can all say,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: we can all call him lazy. I'll be here for you.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he's lazy. I another story that
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: I heard. You know, there's rumors out there about Tom
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: and Giselle having trouble. I guess, okay magazine had this
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: big again. Yeah. Yeah. But then on the other hand,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Gronk's girlfriend she's telling him keep playing, and I thought
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: that was interesting. They don't they you know, they're not
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: married yet, they don't have kids. So she's like, no, no, no,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: keep this thing going. You know, like I'm wondering if
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: she's thinking more about herself than him and telling him, yeah, exactly,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: my acting career is still doesn't need this. No, she
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't need she don't need nothing. Yeah, she could sit
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: in the house the rest of her life. She wanted
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: to um Andre from New Jersey going back to the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I really, I'm really hoping for a Malcolm
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Butler miracle when the Rams threw the ball from the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: one yard line, but unfortunately didn't work out that way. Now, question,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: do you think a teams try to follow what the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Rams did by throwing away picks and going after veteran
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: disgruntled players. Do you think teams will follow that roadmap?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I think there's more trading in general than there ever
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: has been. Yeah, among good players. Yeah, I think so.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I mean I like that, I do. Yeah. I mean
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's you know, there's risks, and I think
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: it's challenging. I mean, I'm very curious how they how
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: they maintain it. I think the picks that they still
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: have are very very important and they need to keep
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: the pipeline going. And that's what we've seen here. I also,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: you know, credit Sean McVeigh for I mean, that was
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: what I was joking about during the season, was all
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: these you know, big personalities and bringing them all together,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: getting them to play their best games. I think that
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: that's tough, and I think a lot of times that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: you know, backfires where you put together these super teams.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: But they did a great job managing it, and you know,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sure teams will continue to take the chance. But
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: what I what I don't like is the bloh mentality
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: of all of it, Like, see, that's why you can't
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: do X, and in general terms, it's more than one
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: way to do with those things. The reason that people
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: say it can't work is not the reason it didn't work. Now,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: there are times where you put together a dream team
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: and the chemistry doesn't work, and that is part of it.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: But Eagles like trading first round picks to acquire established players.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: It's not like a foolish way to go about you
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: but you know why it work taking a guy that
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: you know can do it. But you know why it
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: worked is because they hit on enough third and fourth
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: round picks to augment the established stars they had and
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: to make up for the fact that they weren't getting
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: first rounders. So there's a there's like a structure in place.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Also with the Patriots can't get Calvin Ridley this offseason,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: would you take Jalen Rieger likely least um less costly
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: and playing with a better QB and better coach might
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: work out for him? Is he where would that happen?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: All over? I thought he was still Yeah, he's not
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: he's like a second or something. He's like two years
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: into his deal. Yeah right, he was a he was
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: a free he was a rookie. Remember seeing him at
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: the at the combine. I thought, right, well, he had
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: a great um, he had great joint practices against us.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I know he did. I know he didn't have it.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: I know he didn't have a good year. Well there
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: you go. Maybe they saw him the joint practices. People
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: are gonna have to come to grips with the fact
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is not here anymore because like the
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: whole like, oh he comes with a better quarterback? I mean,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: is he Yes? Then who whoever hurts yes? H yeah,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: didn't didn't play over him? Uh? Fron in Hollywood, California? Right, friend,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Zimbolist Junior? Yeah, what insights could Patriots unfiltered shair to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: whats listeners to give Matt grows hiring a three on
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: the Richter scale? Didn't Ziegler have various jobs with the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Patriots before being hired for the GM position by the Raiders. Secondly,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: why isn't Brian Flores being considered as a defensive coordinator
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Hasn't Belichick stressed on numerous occasions that
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: he made moves based on what's best for the Patriots.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: All Right, A lot to unpack here, right, Why I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: said it was three on the Richter Scaley you asked me.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean that like his influence on the team
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: or his role. I meant like, as a news story.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: It's not like breaking news. Matt grow has been element No,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: like for all we know, it could mean a lot,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: you know, down you know, for the team. So I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: was just talking about as a news story. He's been
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: here since I think twenty ten ish somewhere around there,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: and he's risen up the rank, says many play a
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: personnel people do coaches do in this organization. So now, now,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: if for the next ten years the Patriots have the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: best drafts in the NFL, I'll say, okay, that was
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: huge because I would assume that he had a big
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: role in that. You know. Yeah, my fear with Grow
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: as he's been here a while and hadn't really been
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: a manager. This is like the first time he's going
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: to step into a role that he's in and I
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: worry about that for a guy who's been around as
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: long as he has. Guys that were younger than him
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: have left the organization to lead other teams. Yeah, and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: he was like an area scout two years ago. Yeah,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: that's what worries me about mac grow. The second question
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: is why haven't we talked about it or why aren't
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: they considering Florists as far as we know, to be
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator? All right, that's that's a loaded one too.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: First of all, does he even want to be a
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator? I don't. I probably not. Second of all,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: he's got a lawsuit pending with the league, and Bill
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Belichick is a big part of that. And we don't
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: know what Bill's response was to that whole thing out,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: you know, the whole email texting and all that. Well,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: I thought, um Flores, initially, I didn't think there was anything,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: you know, in terms of Flora's Belichick relationship, until he
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: criticized Belichick for being a big part of the Giants,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Like that's part of the problem, right. I thought that
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: that part of it I thought brought Bill negatively into
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: the story, not the text chain, right. But I don't
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: know if maybe you know, I think Bill has overlooked
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: stuff like that in the past. But your first point
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: is the one that I would stand by. Does anybody
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: know if Brian Flores wants to be a defensive coordinator
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: right now? Right? I would think that would be an
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: insult to him based on his lawsuit, right, you know? Yeah,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: but he might figure like all the head coaching jobs
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: are taken, maybe he wants just to have a job. Yeah,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: so he would take it. I mean it's not but
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: wouldn't it be smarter for him to focus on the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: on the lawsuit probably and sit it out, regroup. You're
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: getting paid anyway, probably. I just I'm just going by,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: you know what. You often see you off and see
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: people just rushed to take whatever job is all I know,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: But not with a lawsuit. Pen No, it's different, not
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: the same, not the same, Paul. To answer your question,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Ziggler was three years as assistant director of pro Scouting,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: then four years as director of Pro Personnel, before last
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: year assuming director of player Personnel. So he had been
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: in a management position. Yeah, and what a grow grow
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: grow grow got to the college scouting director last year, right,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: one first year right? Oh, and Ziegler was hired by
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: McDaniels back in Denver. That's how he got into the
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: like they were roommates. At that John Carroll School. Uh
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: grow was eleven seasons. Uh served two as a National scout,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: six as an area scout. Um Scott started as a
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: scouting assistant for two years. And yeah, he's paid his dues,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: but but he hasn't been managing. Yeah. It's like sometimes
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: you want to like, why has he been there that
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: long and hasn't really risen to anything higher than that? Yeah,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden and the other part
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: of it, I'm gonna throw this out there and people
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: can criticize me. It's another last name guy. Yeah, it's
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Alcohol's son. You know, like it's another thing I don't
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: like about it. Well, Elliott Wolf was Ron Wolf's son,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: and you know, Dave Ziegler is the Ziegler's son. I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: think that's why. I think that's why this guy got
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: the promotion over Elliot Wolf, because I think Elliot Wolf
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: is probably already he's already gone, was close to leaving
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: this year, right. Ken writes in about the game the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I should say the game is only exciting
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: if you care. Every NFL fans say, every NFL fan
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: has some convoluted equation in their head about who they
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: want to win. In any particular game if you really
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: don't care about the outcome. It's like watching some European
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: snowboarder in the Olympics. You admire the athleticism, but then
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: you forget about it two seconds later. So that's why
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I always do the gymnastics to figure out who I hate,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: so I can have an interest. I told and I
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: had a hard time with that this one, but I do.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I do the mental I'm with friend. I told you
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: that story all the time about random high school games
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: that I covered five minutes in. I think it. Somebody
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: does something, someone does something I didn't like, and I
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: root for the other team. Feel hockey player looked at me, weird,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting against her. Hum. Let's see David in Wisconsin
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: right soon. Paul, I know you said on Tuesday Show
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: to draft a wide receiver in round two or three
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: with two healthy acls in that there will be equality
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: wide receivers in those rounds. However, do you trust Bill
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: to draft one of those receivers Harry versus Samuel or Brown?
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Gives me pause? He will do that. Perhaps that is
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: why the big push last offseason was signing receivers and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: tight ends. I can see a trade down from twenty one,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: sorry Eric, for a pick later in the first round
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: and a pick with an additional pick in the second
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: or third round. Yeah. I can't base my projections on
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: what Bill has missed or hit on in the past.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Like I can't say, well, they picked Harry, look at
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: how that turned out, and say, well, never pick a
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: wide receiver again, right, they never picked Ronk if that
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: was the case, they would never pick a cornerback. Look
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: at all the cornerbacks they've taken in the second round
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: that have missed, right, Cyrus Jones, Jewan Williams, Duke Dawson.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: That's just like in the last five years, Terrence Wheatley,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: you know, going back a little bit ROSSI Dowling, Like
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: they've missed on a lot of high picks at cornerback.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I think corner is one of their biggest needs. I
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say don't take Derek Stinkley because they missed on
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Duke Dawson, right, Yeah, Yeah, that not that Derek Stingley
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: was gonna be a Bill about twenty one. He's probably
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: not going to be. But you just got to judge
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: the the guys that they that are available, and who
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: do you like, and but I gotta admit I'm a
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: little bit scared bndiculary Bye. That's more the type of
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: receiver that just felt outside the I wonder what that
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: discussion sounded like, you know, when they were looking at
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: wide receivers and they picked Harry. Well, Michael Lombardy I
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: think gave a little bit of insight into it with
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: his like rant about what he thought Harry would be,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: which was anything like giant could do play I know
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: and anybody that's the argument for obviously, but there was
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: there a dissenting voice in the room saying, no, he's
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be that, you know, right, because there
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: was also the scouting report that he doesn't get separation.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: That was very that was repeated by a lot of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: these experts, that that's his drawback. He doesn't get separation.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: That's a big drawback. You know, if you can't get
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: separation in college, right, how you do? And that's just
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: what scares me. And nothing against any of these guys,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: but just and and I always start with the highlights
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: just because I want to know what does this guy do? Great?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: WHI show me what he is at his best and
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: when it is literally all just downfield and he's bigger
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: than the other guy and he jumps up and catches
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: the ball. It's it's just not inspiring that all right.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: I know you're telling me that this guy is an
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: absolute athletic freak, but like I just would like to
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: see him catch a ball and take it to the
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: house from five yards out or you know those kind
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: of plays even like like the play that Chase made
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl um that got them down to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: like one hand. Yeah, I mean tremendous, like he was covered,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: well it was a little overthrown and he separated the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: last minute. Made that ridiculous great. You know, like I
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: think carry can make that play. You do, I do.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: But we're talking about like making a play and then
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: running with it after getting separation because there wasn't a
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: lot of separation on that play. It was a great
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: throw too, It was a great throw. But I think
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: like Chase at the last minute made a tremendous burst together.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: What I mean, I think Harry can make those plays occasionally.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I mean we see him every now and then, but
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: we're talking on a consistent basis being able to set
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: open and it's give me something pull away from somebody. Yeah,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: run over, somebody do something other than just downfield, and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: the guy's draped all over and you, because your four
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: inch is bigger than him and more athletic, we're able
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: to get the pall or when you do make the play,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: you don't get hurt every time. Yeah, yeah, that's another
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: thing that helps. That's another thing. You land on the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: ball or this or that. You know. All right, we're
• 1:16:12
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate real quick, Freddy, because I don't know when I'm
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  Speaker 1: Paul eight and five not my strength. Fred seven and six,
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  Speaker 1: seven and Mike much like the regular season four and
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  Speaker 1: nine consistent, consistent, four and nine. So that's uh oh,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't entirely wrong. I was onto something. Um. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Uh Brandon is in Oregon. What's up? Brandon? Hey, Pete crew,
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• 1:31:22
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• 1:31:40
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• 1:31:43
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• 1:31:53
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• 1:33:06
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• 1:33:09
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• 1:33:12
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• 1:33:14
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• 1:33:17
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• 1:33:19
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• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: little bit, but obviously not that big of a deal. Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:33:25
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• 1:33:28
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• 1:33:30
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• 1:33:33
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• 1:33:35
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• 1:33:38
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• 1:33:40
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• 1:33:41
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• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: exactly does he want to keep playing? Do they want him?
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: I don't. You know. The reason I say a hard
• 1:33:48
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• 1:33:52
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  Speaker 1: him no, you know. I just don't think that it's
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• 1:34:07
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• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: we're just talking about coming back to the Patriots, right,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: not to the NFL. Yeah, you know, And so I
• 1:34:13
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• 1:34:16
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• 1:34:20
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• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: it's a tough call. It's just you respect those guys
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: so much. It's hard to talk about. YEP. It is
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: Sean's in Vancouver. Hey Sean, Hey guys, I'm wondering how
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: useful it is to really speculate about the draft at
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: this point before free agency, because it really is a
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: wide range of needs in terms of where they can be,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: and we don't know what's going to happen in free agency.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: We know they don't have the money that they had
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: last year, and there are a lot of free agency
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: free agents like Bentley and and Folk and you know
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Carrists and Jacy Jackson and Trent Brown. It we don't
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: know if they can even bring those guys back around,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: how many or which, So I think I'd like to
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: focus on free agency first. Then maybe we could figure
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: out what their real needs are if if it changes
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: at all. But I hate to tell you other than
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: resigning their own free agents, it's going to be the
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: opposite of last year. You'll be lucky to get one guy,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: you know, like, that's that's notable. Yeah, yeah, but it's
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a good point, I think, And that's
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: something I always try to keep track of when I
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: would like plan my writing and offseason like analysis. It's
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: you know, don't get too crazy on the draft before
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know who they're going to sign. Well, I
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: don't pay attention to it, but we get after the
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: after free agency. But that's when I really start diving
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: into you know who these guys are because a lot
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: of things can change. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you there,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: and there could be some trades as well, and exactly. Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good point. You could be
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: all in on, like, oh, we got to get a cornerback.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: I get a cornerback. But then they sign a cornerback
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: and free agency like, there goes your there goes your
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: mock draft, right ye, Roger from Saint Louis right saying
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: I currently live in Saint Louis, and I can tell
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: you that this place he's talking about sports fandom. Yeah,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: that this place had to be the biggest Bengals fan
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: base on Sunday outside of Cincinnati. They hate the Rams
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: here more than the rest of the NFC West combined.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: But going back to sports fandom across the country, Boston
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: fans fascinate me. I lived in Chicago for a bit
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: before here, and anytime a team in that city had
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: a good week, you'd think that Jordan came back in
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: one another ring, where if a buston team does well
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: for months, the fans still talk about how things are
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: going terribly. Just a funny dichotomy between those teams in cities.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: My working theory is that sports fandom gradually decreases intensity
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: as you move east to west across the country. It
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: might be something to that. Yeah, I believe that. That's say,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: that's the bust the negativity. And there's also a difference
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: in what sports they're passionate about. I'll give you an
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: ex by region the furthermost corner Seattle Rabbit not just
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: not just for the football team, but for their soccer
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: that well, that's that. That's my point too. It's like
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: different regions have different sports that they're passionate about. You know,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: the South that tends to be more college football than
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: pro sports. Yeah, you know, Seattle's is a great example
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: of a of a passionate fan base for whatever their
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: team is. You know, I think now they got the Kraken.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know how passionate they are about hockey if
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: they're in the Pacific Northwest. But the soccer team is
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: like the biggest drawing soccer team for whole games. They
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: have a parade through the city to the stadium. The
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: think Paul's not here. Yeah, it's like Tennessee does that
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. They have like a ruch across the bridge. Yea.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: In Seattle, like they go nuts for the sound of Sounders.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I said, I have two games there. It
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: was awesome, awesome, super passionate. And they play in the
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Seahawks Stadium. Yeah, it's all right there anyway. I mean
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: the Mariners play right around the corner too. I mean it's,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: you know, one of those well thought out I mean,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: it's just so different from here because it's in the
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: middle of the city. So you know, that was what's
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: crazy means like to go to a bar in downtown
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: Seattle and then all right, let's walk over to the game. Now,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: it's not like are we gonna drive down to Forrestborough Park,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: you know all that you gotta go through here. Yep.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Ramon Rights and he some Tampa has some random questions
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: if we were able to defeat the eighty five Bears,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: what would that have done for our legacy? Oh wow, wow,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: that's an old school question I would have liked to get.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: I'd like to get pp and on that one, well,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: it's totally a different time too, because there wasn't free
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: agency back then, so it's not like you could have
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: been like, oh, we can attract all everyone want to
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: come and play here, like you still had like yours. Right,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: Let's think of a team that flashed in the pan,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: you know, was kind of a one super Bowl team
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: because I don't think if they had won that game,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: it meant that they were going to keep on winning
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: because they didn't have a quarterback right, Tony Easton was
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: not right, you know, that guy that was going to
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: lead to a multiple win. The offense still would have
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: looked as Yeah, I'll tell you what happened though, it
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: would not necessarily the franchisees legacy, but it would have
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: helped a lot of those players legacy, like tipp would
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: have gotten in the halls a great point, you know,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: other guys would have had more respect. Yeah, that's a
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: good that's a very good point. Yeah. Yeah, And maybe
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: I mean all the turmoil though with ownership and maybe
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: that happened five years later, maybe that gets delayed a
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe, Yeah, but I still think they're probably
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: a flash in the pan. Yeah, had a playoff runs?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: Is there a big more revenue, so that the Sullivan's
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: don't like, does the Michael Jackson Tour never happened? I know,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they's got all these new advertisers,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: you know, so it could have changed. Maybe it would
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: have delayed the inevitable, you know, like maybe those kind
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: of problems still would have come up. But that's a
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: good question. But I mean you went, you know what,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: that's a good TV series? Yeah? What if TV series?
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: What if you change one thing in history and what
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: happens after? Yeah, and you take different right subjects, and
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: because well, I just have to say that juxtaposed that,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: what happens if they win against the Giants? Right? I know,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: those two different things. Like you've got the eighty five Bears,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: who were, oh they weren't undefeated, but they were as
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: close to it as you could have gotten, and they
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: finished off that incredible season. Now they look in retrospect like, oh,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: that forty six defense. Yeah, and then they go and
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: lose to the Patriots and the Super Bowl, right right,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: like they would have been less impressive. I think in retrospect,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: just like the oh seven Patriots looked like, well they
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: were the superstar offense. Yeah, but then they lost to
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: the Giants. Like and now you have Brady's one from
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: his from his show that he just put out talking
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: about how motivating that was for the second half of
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: his career. I think I'll pitch this to Apple plus yeah,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: plus it out. We'll get this up twelve parts. What
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: what what what if? What if? Uh? Yeah? Would would
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: they have? Would they have gone on to win three
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: more seventy? I don't think so, because I think ownership
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: plays so much a part, you know, continued success, like
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: any you know the Saints with the Benson. Yeah, the
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: Benson you know, they won one, but they haven't won since.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: And you know, you can win. Every team can win once.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: But to do it like the Patriots did, you gotta
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: have from the top. Yeah, you gotta be solid, yeah
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: for over the long term. Right. It's funny too, how
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: different it would like talking about what if between O
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: seven and eleven Because the O seven team was stacked
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: and awesome and probably one of the greatest teams in
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: NFL history, even though they didn't win the Super Bowl.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: But then that eleven team, if they had won, they
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: weren't really that great, So it's kind of two different.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: I would have been very similar to the twenty seventeen team,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: where the offense could light it up and the defense
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: was terrible. Yeah, but you know, do you come out
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: of that in the NFL's like defense doesn't matter anymore.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Just get an offense or just get Tom Brady and yeah,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: you just just get the grettest player ever. Another one
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: of his random questions. That was a good one. If
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: we could have drafted a pair of brothers, which one
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: would you want? The Watts, the Digs or the Bosses.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Jeez, I gotta I'm probably
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: gonna go wait Tho Digs or Macho Digs because you
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: get something from both sides of the ball. Yeah, that's
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: not bad. Yeah, I mean wat defense. I think the
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Watts defense though J. J. Watts a lot. I would
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: take a lot. I think I would take the Watts. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of wattage. One, Matt, you know what
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: was coming? He's back? And what would you prefer? A
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: division realignment or a schedule shake up? What does he
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: mean by a schedule shake up? I like as far
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: as like like the schedule formula formula. I don't I
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: don't neither, I don't know I like I like the division.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: I like having close geographical rivals. I think that all
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: matches up pretty well. And um, I don't Yeah, I
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: don't know. Well, you know, back in the day, you know, uh,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: these teams didn't have charter planes and all that stuff,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: you know when they you know, thirty years ago or whatever.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: But now they do and travels a lot easier. What
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: do you think of every year have a lottery for
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: the schedule too, and you have no idea who you're
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: gonna play until you have that lottery, and you could
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: be playing anybody. That's fun, you know, And you bring
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: that up and now I I there's a certain part
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: of me that like everything's kind of like we know
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: who they're gonna play. There's something exciting though. If they
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: did that, like time time schedule reveal is like a
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: real reveal, you'd also have to throw away the whole division,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: so you wouldn't have a division. Well, you'd have to Yeah,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: you'd have to do just two conferences and you can
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: play you have two lotteries, one for your conference games
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: and then one for your out of conference games, and
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: then you're seated for the playoffs. You know, I don't
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: know kind of fun. I mean, so you can talk
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: about one through one through seven and one through seven. Yeah,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: and both conferences conferences regardless of there wouldn't be no divisions, right,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: so you're still playing the same amount of conference games
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: that you do now. Yeah, but it's random you don't
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: know who. Yeah, I mean you have to be like
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: a major computer that can spit out the whole thing
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: and it all fits and makes sense. I mean I
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: know that that's all kinds of algorithms of trying to
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: piece together so it all works out and nobody gets
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: I got into a twist on Twitter about the draft,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: same thing. I said, screw this whole worst the first thing,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: you know, And it doesn't always work that way. So
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: just have a lottery for the draft every year, yea,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: and for every round. So so in theory, the Rams,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: who just won the Super Bowl could have the first
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: overall pick. Yeah, imagine and you do it live though,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: and people, well, that's not fair, you know. But what
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: I think what will happen is, especially in the Rams case,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: where you have a quarterback, and in years where the
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: number one pick is an obvious quarterback, if that happens,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: where a team like the Rams gets the first pick,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: there's going to be trading. It will It will actually
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: encourage more trading because teams that are good, that are
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: at the top will say no, I'll trade down get
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: more picks. I think it'll make the draft more exciting.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, oh, it's not fair,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: but screw that. I think pause against. It doesn't help
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: the Jets to pick first every year. We chatted about
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: this alliance to take the receivers all those years. I
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: think it was waste these guys around the flooresting. You
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: might have been out of the show for a minute,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: but we kind of talked about this and I brought
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: up like, is there away and Paul had said, oh,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: that's a fred thing. Um, I would at least be
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: on board with just the top ten, just to make
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: it take it out of the NBA. Yeah, like, you know,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: just to put a little bit like you still have
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: some kind of power structure. It's not like the Wow,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Wow West, where you who's picking next? Like I mean,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: but that's fun. I mean just to think like who's Cincinnati?
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: You got that? Like all right? U. And even if
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: you say like, well, it's not good to have it
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: on the day that the draft is, so have it
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: a month earlier. So now you have another event. Ye,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: full draft, full week, and so I have a month
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: where I do know where I'm picking. But before that,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Primetime television advertising. I think I think
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: that this whole the worst team. And also in the
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: reason I thought of this is because of the whole tanking. Yeah,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: you know we know teams tank. Sure, so now there'll
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: be less in SENTI to tank if you can be oh,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: in seventeen with no guarantee, you're gonna have a ticket
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: even in the top sixteen. So there's no one scentive
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: to tank it. So you take that off the table. Yeah,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: do it. It makes total sense to me. I'd love
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: to hear this table, Matt. And they'll destroy that too.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: What is this, Patriots, I'm not gonna listen to two hours?
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: Good will get it. He'll destroy it. I just said that.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: Oh you did. Yes, I like it better than Fred said. Thanks,
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: mich Um. All right, good, so we got that figured out.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: Good question, we're solving problems. He I like it. We
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: should write that forward thinking Yeah, yeah, blog treatment, blog
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Treatment'll do a treatment that in the what if show? Yeah,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: I think we've come. You know, I think we've started
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: side Baker can make money, can make money off of it.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: All we needed to do was get Paul out of
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: the room. I know so much more. He's gonna come
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: back in and tell us why they're terrible ideas, and
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: then we'll be like, you're right, and then we'll walk
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: up to the office with head and shame. Like Rooral Wasser.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: The most memorable thing about him as the way he walked.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Somehow he'll live in infamy. Yeh. Let's see. I thought
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: this was about what this guy's gonna have a little
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: riff on him number five and I know Ohio state,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: but he just I heard somebody call him like the
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: highest floor of the receivers. I know that'll drive people
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: nuts that are listening to this right now. But just
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: an all around really good receiver, tough, big, strong, all everything.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe not the high super smoothness
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: that Olave has or that, but I mean some people
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: like him, you know, the top two or three guys.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: It's all over the place though these these it's early still,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know. I mean Drake, this guy,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: Drake London from USC He's one that all over the place.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: Some people got him as the top guy. Other people
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: album wait until they combine overreacts happen. My god, he
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: performed so great. Well it'll be me and Paul. You
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: see the size of his arms. Thirty one bench must
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: be great. Adam writes in from Dublin very quickly. You
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: guys are the best performing unit in Foxborough, so keep
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: it up. I think I know what your answers will be.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: But would you I would like to hear you tease
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: it out to understand where Max's potential truly lies. What
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: asset would you would help you understand this quicker Julian
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Edelman slash Westwelker clone as a short distance, shifty receiver
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: or a brick wall left tackle who keeps them clean
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: all year eyed op for the receiver, because having to
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: learn under duress is no bad thing. What do you
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: think at the receiver? Yeah, I mean the receiver. I
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: think there's just like a baseline of offensive protection that
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: you need to get to and then you're kind of
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: all right, if it's is it better than that whatever?
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: But and we saw it halfway through the season. They
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: kind of fixed the protection issues for the most party,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: and he was able to get the ball away and
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: do what he wanted to do. So and I just
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: I want to say this though, because I think we
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: kind of got in this territory with Paul earlier in
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: the show where it's you know, it doesn't have to
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: be Wes Welker, Like I think like people have a
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: connotation of just being this like mid round, small, quick short,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: you know, slot receiver. I want Dion Branch, I want
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: Troy Brown. I want guys who are versatile, who can
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: move around. It's not the traditional slot guy. It's just
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: a guy that can do a bunch of things and
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: get open quick right. And you know, yeah, it doesn't
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: mean that, oh he's only gonna play on third downs
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna be inside. Uh. You know, I'm fine
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: with Jacobe Myers and that, and I think, you know,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: Paul Paul is right and as far as his point
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: with Jacobe, but I just think it's more that Dion
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: kind of guy that his go to can catch and
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: he can catch everywhere on the field, and he's not
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: just the one trick slots receiver pony. And he's also
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: not the Philip door set I'm gonna run, you know,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks I'm gonna play the X outside. I'm either
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: going to run a comeback or a go and maybe
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: draw a pass interference that that that I don't want it.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: I want a guy who can do it all and
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: move around. Let's see. Lorenzo writes in now that we're
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: in the off season, I wanted to get your opinions
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: on a would you rather for the Patriots? All hypothetical,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: but would love to hear your thoughts on what the
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: Patriots would benefit from more. Would you rather have a
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: a ball hawk safety or an in the box safety?
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: Think Ed Read versus Troy Palomalo ball hawk Paul safety
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: or him. I've been putting some thought into this, Eric,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: if you're asking me whether I want Ed Reid or
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: Troy Palomalo, Yeah right, Um yeah, I mean it's uh.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: I just I think the free safety is a little
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: bit of an easier position to Phil, Like you could
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: get a Deron Harman to kind of do what d
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: Mac did or you know what they've both done. Um,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: I just I think. I mean the way the Patriots
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: are constituted, I think they put such value into guys
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: like Dugger and Phillips, who can who can do it
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: both m And I wonder if those guys are harder
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: to find. I mean, at least what they've been kind
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: of signaling is those guys have value when you need
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: to go and get them. And you know, when you
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: find one like Phillips, extend him. And you know, if
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: you think you have one and dugger, go small school,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: go get him. Um, I don't know, I might go
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: that way. Here's the thing. You know, you talk about Edwardid,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: he's the ultimate ball Hawks safety, right, but there's a
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: big drop off after that. How many other ball Hawks
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: safeties are really effective doing that? Yeah? You know, like
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: the Seattle guy you know, what was his name, M L.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: Thomas Thomas Now he was one. But they're yeah, they're
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: they're hard to find guys that are that smart. On
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: the back end. You don't want jam well, Jamal Adams
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: Now I would take Jamal Adams, yeah, because usually you
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: don't want your safety just doing anything you know is
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: a good overall defensive player. Yeah, I mean, it's just
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: it's there. There's nobody compares to Ed Reid. Who can
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: you know, with with his positioning, dare quarterbacks into throws
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: and and you know pick them off a pass rushing
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle or a run stuff or think uh the
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Dominican Sue Verse, Vince Wilfork pass rush, Yeah, pass rushing.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: It's the passing you need. You need, guys, do you
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: need a bar more before you need a Jordan Davis. Look,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: that's how the Super Bowls decided. Like the Bengals did
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: a pretty good job keeping the pressure away and then
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: at the end when they needed it most, Donald makes
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: the play and the game is over. And I think
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: the strength of Sue in his prime was it was both. Yeah,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: exactly exactly if you can do both, right, I mean
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: that's Donald, I Aaron d take Aaron Donald, right right?
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: I I can't day a dynamic linebacker or a pass
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: rushing defensive end. Think Luke Keiklely or Nick Bosas type
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: I love I love me some I take I take
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: the Keikly really. Yeah, he's all over the field. Yeah,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough because I could I can
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: say the pass rusher you need, pass rush you got
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: and you know, usually when you have those guys like
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: keikle Oh he's a tackling machine. He's got two hundred tackles. Yeah,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: but how many are behind? Yeah? But I'm also assuming
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: that I've got other things, and I think I'm leaning
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: towards you, like I think I might might be there
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: just because he controls the whole defense, and you know
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: that that's that's a part of it. But I think
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: there's also the edge setting component of the defensive ends up.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: That's a good question, it is. And finally, an offensive
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: coordinator that is innovative or one that is a master
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: of a system. Think Sean McVay versus Sean Payton. M
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: innovative or master has a system that he's known for,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: like a Dick le Beau, or he's more defense. Right. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: but I a coordinator, I see what you're saying. Yeah,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think you need both
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a guy. Yeah, someone who have
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: something that he believes in but also can continue to
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: evolve with the league. At this point, I prefer an
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator who can coach up a quarterback to it.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: And yes, and I think that's probably where a lot
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: of Patriots fans all right now, where it's like you enough,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: who the thinking can we just put something simple where
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: everyone gets it and can play fast? You know? That's
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: what I think people are kind of itching for it
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit, Neil writes, in the entire show has
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: been about issues with roster, who plays, who doesn't, Why
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: are recent drafts of fail, lack of backup plans, and
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: on and on. How much do you think that is
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: being driven by Belichick's pursuit of the record. Playing young
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: players might result in going six and eleven instead of
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: ten and seven. If that were the case, that makes
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: it harder slash longer for the seventy year old coach
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: to break the record. So here is an insane question.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: If another team came to you and offered three first
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: round picks for your seventy year old coach, and Bill
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: was willing to waive his no trade clause, would you
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: do it? I think it could be a win win.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: I have a team in mind that plays in a
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: city that rhymes with alice. Three first round picks, Well,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: there are I mean, there are a few teams that
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, it wouldn't be three first round picks
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: this year, but there are a few teams that have
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: three picks this year. I believe. Yeah, well, what you know,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: they don't have to be this year. They could be. No,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: I know that's what I'm saying. But it would be
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: great if it was all this year. Yeah. But if
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: you think Bill Belichick is a good coach, even if
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: you do covet the three first round picks the team,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: he's gonna make that team better and then those picks
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: are going to be low. Yeah you know. Yeah, but
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: I mean how long how long does he have? Are
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: you gonna be having a first round pick when he's
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: out of the league, like you know, Um, this was
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: a new angle for me. Something I didn't really know
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: until I think I got here was this. Um was
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: the angle that Bill Belichick's main motivation in life is
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: just to break that record. Like I never really heard
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: that before. Yeah, never heard that. A lot of people
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: just say that like it's fact. Well, and I don't
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: think it because it's because he's getting closer to it. Yeah.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: I think people are assuming that that's why he's hanging on,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: because he has also said I'm not coaching into my
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: seventies like Marv Levy. Well, two months from now, he's
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: going to be seventy. Yeah, so it's time to put
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: up a shut up. Yeah, I just into my seventies. Eric.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: That could be technically he turned seventy. I know, he's
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: a man of his words. To part that's maybe seventy
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: seventy one seventy two aren't ease, Yeah, yeah they are.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah you're sixty nine, you're not seventy. Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: But if he's gonna get the record, he's got to
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: win games like immediately. So yeah, you know, I think,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: like I always just admire his short term focus of
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: what he what he preaches. So I don't know, I
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: just people seem like that's all that consumes him, almost
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: like as if he like will lose games if that
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: helps him break the record, if you know what I mean,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: Like that sounds stupid. It sounds like he just wants
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: to break the record. I mean, he doesn't even care
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: who he drafts. He just wants to win a bunch
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: of games. Like what. I don't think. So I don't really,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm sure like, hey, that'll
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: be nice if when it comes, but I he wants
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: to win games. The Eagles. The Eagles have three first
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: round picks this year, not crazy, fifteen, sixteen, and nineteen. Wow,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: that's that's some heavy artillery. Like what if the Eagles
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: came to you and said, we will give you these
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: picks for Bill Bell, Bill Belichick. I'd be ballsy by them,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: almost almost if I had. If Josh McDaniel's on the
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: staff and I really thought that he was the Arab
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: I was the crafts, I would say, now's the time
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: you start with a new coach and four first round picks,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: because you have your own too. I mean, the only
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: reason I consider it is just that three first round
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: picks are going to be here for a while. Rechange
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: your whole team for the next decade. Like I said,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: if I had the guy identified right now, I would
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: do it, But right now I wouldn't because I don't
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: have that guy and there's no one better than Belichick,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: right And that's and that's like what I keep coming
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: back to. If like, you know the people, you know,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: I get people are you know, sick of some aspects,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: but like, like is it really gonna make you happy
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: to get rid of Bill Belichick? And then somebody like
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel comes in, that's like, all right, now we
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: die this guy from San Francisco, Well, he got debo working,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sure he's gonna find something like that. That
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: that's the point where I think everyone's gonna be like,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: oh wow, Belichick's gone, and we're just nobody really seems
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: to care now, Like I just kind of in the
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, you think it's Tom Brady's the greatest ever,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: and it's it's gonna be it's tough moving on from him,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: But so is Bill Belichick. Yeah, and you know, and
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be really tough moving on from him, right,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: And the same people who are lamenting getting rid of
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: Brady too soon, it's like, well, do you do you
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: want to? Like, I know, it hasn't been perfect the
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: last few years around here, but it's at least interesting.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is certainly well established and has
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: a plan and is trying to do it, so well,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: what would you rather watch? And I could argue that
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: there's probably more good quarterbacks when you look at current
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL in the draft available every year
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: than really good head coaches. Yeah, you know for sure,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: for sure, because the real good ones aren't available, right,
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: and so you're taking a chance on guys who really
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: are haven't proved and you never really know, at least
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: with the draft you've seen like production, but like with
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel or you know, and not to pick on him,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: just anybody, like, right, what do you really know until
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: he gets in there and he does it. You know,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh has done a good job and being able
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: to do it. But those those are, those are It's
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: crazy to think McVeigh is still the youngest coach in
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: the league and he's been in the league for a
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: while now. Yeah, that's how young he was when he
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: was hired. Yeah, Zoe had a good impression to him
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: the other day on the radio. Zoe. Yeah, it was
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: it was you wouldn't expect an impression from Zoe, but
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty good. So it's pretty good. Yeah,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: it's um, he could do impression. He kept going to
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: like it wasn't just a little like, oh that was funny.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: He was working it. It's funny. All right. That's gonna
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: be it for this edition of Patriots on Filter Sans
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: paul Um. We'll be back next week see what happens
• 1:59:34
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