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Spider-Man: Far from Home · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Spider-Man spins a web of action and adventure today at 3.30. Spider-Man, Spider-Man,
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  Speaker 1: does whatever a spider can.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Sean Gunn and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 6: To your stations, we have a movie meltdown.
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  Speaker 7: Chief, I'm gonna come.
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  Speaker 1: At you like a spider monkey!
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Jacqueline.
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  Speaker 3: I'm David.
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  Speaker 2: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 2: Grendel and Zuzu's House of Fun. Except when Grendel's showing
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  Speaker 2: her teeth and being kind of a jerk.
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  Speaker 6: She's just a beautiful xenomorph baby.
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  Speaker 3: Sure it's not the plant genes? Maybe it's just the food.
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  Speaker 3: You add food to any element and animals will completely change.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if.
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  Speaker 6: No, she's still like that.
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  Speaker 2: She's just kind of a jerk sometimes.
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  Speaker 6: It's just kind of whenever Zuzu gets close to me
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  Speaker 6: in general. If he gets too close. Or even if
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  Speaker 6: I'm not around, sometimes he gets too close to her
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  Speaker 6: and she's just like, get the fuck up.
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  Speaker 2: Out of my space. I mean, again, if you're listening
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  Speaker 2: a long time to the Super Series, you hear this
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  Speaker 2: update every once in a while of what's going on
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  Speaker 2: with Grendel and Zuzu. Zuzu's the nicest dog ever. And
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  Speaker 2: then there's Grendel, who we all love.
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  Speaker 6: Zuzu has a personality. To be fair, Grendel is rich
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  Speaker 6: with personality. She is the strangest human trapped in a
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  Speaker 6: dog body that I've ever known.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not arguing any of these, actually. That's pretty accurate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Zuzu's just the nicest dog.
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  Speaker 6: But she's just cranky. She's a cranky old bitch. I
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  Speaker 6: love her.
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  Speaker 2: We all love her.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure that the podcast has captured her grunts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. If you've been listening, you've heard her making
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  Speaker 2: weird noises on the mic before.
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  Speaker 6: She has an entire language. Most dogs will make some sounds.
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  Speaker 6: They'll make a.
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  Speaker 8: Or.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, Grendel has syllables. She makes sentences. She has
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  Speaker 6: a whole cadence to her sentences.
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  Speaker 2: She's like. Now you've become fluent, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you speak back? And does she like acknowledge that
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  Speaker 2: you're doing it right? Or is she like, what the
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  Speaker 2: fuck did you just say?
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  Speaker 6: She knows. I know what she's saying. And she knows
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  Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Usually I don't get it right when
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  Speaker 6: I know. Like, she's like, I'm like, okay. I know
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  Speaker 6: that you need me to get up and go to
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  Speaker 6: the kitchen for something. I don't know if that's water.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if that's food. I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: you're trying to get a treat. I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: you want to go outside. But I know that you're
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  Speaker 6: trying to get.
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  Speaker 2: Me in that room. I like mine's just yelling at
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  Speaker 2: them all day. It's like, no, no, stop.
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  Speaker 10: Stop it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's the closest, I guess, to parenting I'm
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  Speaker 2: ever going to have. Don't, no, don't do that. Don't, no,
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  Speaker 2: get over here. Stop. Watch where you're going. Don't run
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  Speaker 2: your face into things. It's sad how many times I
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  Speaker 2: have to be like, don't run your face into things.
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  Speaker 2: Protect your face.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: He constantly just turns around and rams his face into
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  Speaker 2: stuff and doesn't even flinch. I'm just like. guess you're
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  Speaker 2: good with it like the other dog knows not to
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  Speaker 2: do that but he just like doesn't yeah most of
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  Speaker 2: my days just nope stop it what no why like
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  Speaker 2: so yeah dog updates that's what this episode is really
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  Speaker 2: about she's still alive everybody yeah last time we we
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  Speaker 2: got the medical update so.
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  Speaker 6: Got the medical update she's fine she'll never die well
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  Speaker 6: i mean her her bodily form will perish But she'll
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  Speaker 6: haunt me for the rest of her life.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 6: For the rest of my life, anyways.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 3: She doesn't like being documented.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't like being documented. You can't remove him.
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  Speaker 3: Don't break the facade.
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  Speaker 2: She's like Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 6: She is a cryptid. Literally, my dog is a cryptid.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of... Yeah, I'll give you that one.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So, obviously, from the dog updates, the Super Series is back.
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  Speaker 2: continue on and i did want to this this occurred
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  Speaker 2: to me recently because as i've mentioned many a time
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  Speaker 2: in the last year or so that i opted to
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  Speaker 2: not get cable because it's a ripoff i watch a
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  Speaker 2: lot of me tv now and as i'm like i
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  Speaker 2: am like they make such a big deal out of
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  Speaker 2: you know the the mcu and the fact that everybody
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  Speaker 2: wants to do the shared universe the the conjuring's doing
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  Speaker 2: it and i think blumhouse wants to do it i
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  Speaker 2: was like you know You guys think you're being all
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  Speaker 2: cutting edge, but let's go back to Petticoat Junction, Green Acres,
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  Speaker 2: Beverly Hillbillies are all a shared universe. They have characters
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  Speaker 2: that cross over, sometimes week to week. Like two of
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  Speaker 2: the three have people that are in every episode almost
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  Speaker 2: that are the same actor. And it's like one town
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  Speaker 2: over and it's all one big.
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  Speaker 3: Did they run at the same time though? Because I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking in my head, I was trying to think
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  Speaker 3: of examples.
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  Speaker 2: They became like spinoffs of each other.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking, you know, you have like Cheers and
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  Speaker 3: then Frasier. But I was like, was there a time
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  Speaker 3: where these shows were at the same time instead of
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  Speaker 3: being spinoffs of each other?
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  Speaker 2: I had to check and see because I never paid
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  Speaker 2: that much attention to Petticoat Junction, which now it's on
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just like, well, these girls are cute. I
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  Speaker 2: think I see how this show got made. Like it's
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  Speaker 2: just three girls in a small town and they're super hot.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, well, here's the sales pitch back
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  Speaker 2: in the day. but um i think it was the
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  Speaker 2: original win and i think then they spun the other
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  Speaker 2: two off of that one but they all were kind
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  Speaker 2: of successful so they were all on at the same
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  Speaker 2: time it just was like a little longer from one
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  Speaker 2: to the other but yeah so at the same time
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  Speaker 2: it had these same characters crossing over so you guys
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  Speaker 2: think it's all cutting edge but back in the day
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  Speaker 2: before there was a rocket raccoon there was an arnold
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  Speaker 2: ziffle and if you don't know who that is google
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  Speaker 2: that up because it's That's something I just realized. This
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  Speaker 2: was on TV every week. National television. Arnold Ziffel was
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  Speaker 2: a beloved character. So anyway, that's the things I.
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  Speaker 3: You're really not going to tell us who Arnold Ziffel is?
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  Speaker 2: He's a pig.
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  Speaker 3: Is it the pig from Green Acres?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And again, much like Grendel here, he talks and has
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  Speaker 2: his own language. And everyone else, well, at least his
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  Speaker 2: owner and the wife understand him and have conversations with him.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, he was a regular character on
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  Speaker 2: that show. And I'm like, this was on TV.
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  Speaker 3: Primetime television it's kind of a staple of that agenda
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  Speaker 3: right because you have Lassie you have Mr. Ed you
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  Speaker 3: have all these animals that but the other ones were
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  Speaker 3: like normal dogs that were just kind of like super
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  Speaker 3: smart but like Arnold they treated him like again his
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  Speaker 3: name's Arnold they like treated him like a human character
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  Speaker 3: except he was a pig and he just it didn't
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  Speaker 3: have a cheesy voiceover person it was just pig grunts
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  Speaker 3: And everybody else acted like they knew what he said.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm still like, this was a show. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not bad. I mean, Ava Gabor, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Man, looking at TV today, you can't even make accusations
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  Speaker 3: like that. TV today is so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, again, I watch it now and I'm just like, see? Like,
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  Speaker 2: they were ahead of the curve on this Hootersville, as
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  Speaker 2: she puts it.
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  Speaker 6: There are no more original thoughts. No.
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  Speaker 2: Green Acres came up with all. We're all just living
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  Speaker 2: in Green Acre's shadow. All right. I guess we should
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  Speaker 2: get to it.
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  Speaker 11: Get more out of life. Go out to.
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  Speaker 2: A movie. Everywhere I go, I see his face.
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  Speaker 7: I just really miss him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I miss him too.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Tony would have done what he did
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  Speaker 3: if he didn't know that you were gonna be here
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  Speaker 3: after he was gone.
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  Speaker 11: You gonna be the next Iron Man now?
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  Speaker 7: Well, no, I don't have time. I'm too busy doing
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  Speaker 7: your jobs. What?
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  Speaker 2: I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Look, keep up the good work.
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  Speaker 2: Because I am going on vacation. Heads up.
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  Speaker 11: Nick Fury's calling you.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really want to talk to Nick Fury.
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  Speaker 7: Answer the phone.
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because if you don't talk to him, then I have
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  Speaker 2: to talk to him. I don't want to talk to him.
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  Speaker 2: You sent Nick Fury to voicemail? I gotta go. You
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  Speaker 2: do not ghost Nick Fury.
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  Speaker 4: What up, dorks?
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  Speaker 7: What's up?
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  Speaker 2: We're just talking about the trip. I'm here in St.
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  Speaker 2: Marco Polo's.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, I think MJ really likes me.
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  Speaker 2: Reminds me of when I first fell in love. You're
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  Speaker 2: a very difficult person to contact, Spider-Man.
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  Speaker 11: This is Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Beck.
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  Speaker 7: Who could have used someone like you on my world?
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  Speaker 2: Your world?
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  Speaker 11: Beck is from Earth, just not ours.
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  Speaker 2: A snap to our hole in our dimension.
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  Speaker 7: You're saying there's a multiverse?
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  Speaker 2: We have a job to do, and you're coming with us.
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  Speaker 2: There's got to be someone else you can use. What
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  Speaker 2: about Thor?
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  Speaker 7: Off-world. Captain Marvel?
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  Speaker 1: Unavailable.
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  Speaker 7: But I'm just a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man.
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  Speaker 1: Bitch, please.
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  Speaker 2: You've been to space.
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  Speaker 10: What do you want, Peter?
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  Speaker 2: I want to go back on my trip with the
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  Speaker 2: girl who I really.
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  Speaker 3: Like and tell her how I feel.
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  Speaker 8: MJ, I.
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  Speaker 2: Am Spider-Man.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: Of course I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of obvious.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 7: You may not be ready. But this is my responsibility.
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  Speaker 10: Saving the world requires sacrifice. Sometimes people die.
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  Speaker 2: I just always feel like I'm putting my friends in danger.
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  Speaker 2: The world needs the next Iron Man.
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  Speaker 11: Are you going to step up or not?
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  Speaker 4: I gotta get you guys out of here.
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  Speaker 7: Get on the jet.
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  Speaker 3: Who are you?
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  Speaker 2: I work with Spider-Man. You work for Spider-Man? I work
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  Speaker 2: with Spider-Man, not for Spider-Man. New plan! So, once again,
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  Speaker 2: because it's a fancy new superhero movie, we went out
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  Speaker 2: on the town. So this week's out on the town
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  Speaker 2: feature is The Adventures of Night Monkey. Oh, no, wait.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm jumping ahead. This week's movie is Spider-Man
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  Speaker 2: colon Far From Home. The year is obviously 2019. The
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  Speaker 2: director is John Watts. And the plot, according to IMDb,
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  Speaker 2: I read it earlier, it's pretty standard. Following the events
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  Speaker 2: of Avengers colon in-game, Spider-Man must step up and take
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  Speaker 2: on new threats in a world that has changed forever.
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  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert. We're going to run the hell out of this.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully by now.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely spoilers.
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  Speaker 2: You've seen it. And obviously some people have. This is
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  Speaker 2: the other thing I was like, maybe before we even
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  Speaker 2: get into the like plot stuff. Did you see like
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  Speaker 2: how much money it made? Like I really assumed going
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  Speaker 2: in that it was like, Because, I mean, they even
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  Speaker 2: have the fact that we have the term of, like,
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  Speaker 2: franchise fatigue. And, like, even the biggest. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: fact that Star Wars had one that didn't go well.
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  Speaker 10: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you can't imagine that. So coming off of
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  Speaker 2: the one-two punch of both the Avengers movies and the
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  Speaker 2: last one making a bajillion dollars and, like, all of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's still technically in the theaters because they brought it back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Literally was still doing two shows a day and i'm
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  Speaker 3: like it's literally literally on top of other movies yeah
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  Speaker 3: like we didn't that's.
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  Speaker 2: That's what i was thinking like i i thought that
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  Speaker 2: when i watched the last one because when i walked
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  Speaker 2: in to see avengers they were still playing captain marvel
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  Speaker 2: in the same theater so i was like they're constantly
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  Speaker 2: like i think they're putting them closer and closer together
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  Speaker 2: i And that's another thing that I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if that one's going to step on the other.
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  Speaker 2: It's like if everybody went and saw Avengers Endgame and
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  Speaker 2: now they're just like, all right, well, I need a
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  Speaker 2: break now, you know, and I'll come back in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years and watch some more superhero movies. But,
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  Speaker 2: it uh as of today in this recording it has
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  Speaker 2: made more than 600 million dollars oh my gosh and
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  Speaker 2: is i know i had no idea it was making
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  Speaker 2: i was like i was going to be low i
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  Speaker 2: thought you were going to shoot low here i didn't
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  Speaker 2: know it was going to be i assumed it was
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  Speaker 2: going to win the weekend but it as of today
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  Speaker 2: now granted it started early because of the july 4th
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  Speaker 2: thing so it's had a couple extra days but 600
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  Speaker 2: million now and they're still like projecting it'll make a
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  Speaker 2: billion global and i'm like for the movie after endgame
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  Speaker 2: that's not at all serious compared to that one that's
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: a total different tone that really everybody should have kind
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  Speaker 2: of been like maybe i'll catch it on red box
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  Speaker 2: or whatever like it's still pulling so i don't know
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  Speaker 2: i was just like i didn't expect.
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  Speaker 3: I expected to be successful but i didn't think it
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  Speaker 3: was gonna do that well that's that's what i thought.
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  Speaker 2: And i didn't even again i they i guess weren't
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  Speaker 2: really discussing it i just went to get the information
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  Speaker 2: there from imdb and the first thing it brought up
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  Speaker 2: was just like spider-man breaks records and like is destined
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  Speaker 2: to do one billion dollars and i'm just like wait
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  Speaker 2: what so Yeah, I did not.
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  Speaker 3: Sony must be stoked.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, Sony must be so happy. They were like, we
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  Speaker 2: made the best decision ever. Remember when nobody gave a
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  Speaker 2: shit about us? Remember when we were going bankrupt? Just
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: think if they hadn't.
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  Speaker 3: Wasted the five years with the Andrew Garfield stuff. If
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: you guys would have got in earlier, just imagine how
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  Speaker 3: much more integrated it could have been. We probably wouldn't
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: have Tom Holland, but.
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  Speaker 2: Which I think is key, really. I think that's part of.
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  Speaker 3: I do really like him as Peter.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I was trying to decide. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: what is it about this one that's worked? Because both
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  Speaker 2: have done really well. All four that he's been in now,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: he's like a super favorite character. So it's like, I
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  Speaker 2: think so much of it is he's just so earnest
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  Speaker 2: and lovable. And he is very genuine that you kind
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  Speaker 2: of need from Peter Parker. But it's also a different...
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  Speaker 2: Because I felt like they kind of did a great
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  Speaker 2: job with the Toby casting. But I don't know. There's
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  Speaker 2: something maybe even more realistic and genuine. Maybe because he's
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  Speaker 2: also a little younger that you're kind of a little
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  Speaker 2: more endeared to him. But I don't know. There's something
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  Speaker 2: about Tom Holland. But I do wonder if it's a
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  Speaker 2: timing thing too. Like if it really did start. If
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: they got the rights to it early on and somewhere after...
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: the Hulk movie, they did a Spider-Man and people were like, hmm, no.
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  Speaker 3: I just try to imagine, you know, if he would
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: have had his origin movie before Civil War, it would
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  Speaker 3: have been more fluid, you know, if he would have
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: had one or two in before. Not that it hurts anything,
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  Speaker 3: but just in my head, it's like, you know, going
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  Speaker 3: back to that guy that was frustrated with Sony for
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  Speaker 3: like a decade, you know, other than the Spider-Man, Raimi's
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Spider-Man 2 is still golden to me, but most of
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  Speaker 3: those others are just like, please.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Do a good Spider-Man. Yeah. That was the other thing
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  Speaker 2: they said. This is now set to, which is weird
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: because I assumed Homecoming made a fortune. They said this
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  Speaker 2: one is going to definitely surpass that, but is also
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  Speaker 2: going to become the highest grossing Spider-Man movie ever.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Which Spider-Man 3, the 2007 Spider-Man 3. Was the highest
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  Speaker 2: grossing Spider-Man movie.
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  Speaker 3: Up until this point.
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  Speaker 2: Because after two, everyone thought this is so good. And
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: that's usually how it is. It's just going to get better.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: It's never the first movie because they just get him
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: in the door and they build everybody's hopes up. And
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: then it's usually the second or sometimes the weird off
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: third one that makes all the money. And like, that's
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: what it was for Amy.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's ironic how that works out. How like sometimes
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: the wrong movie gets the money.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: A lot of times. It's the way it works, so.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: So all that out of the way, where do we
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: want to actually get into this Spider-Fest?
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Quick general impressions?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I got the impression before we started you weren't as
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: thrilled with this as some previous Marvels. By no means
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: is it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Bad, but in my head, it goes right with Iron
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Man 2 and Thor 2. It's like, this is fine,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: but there's something about this that's just not connecting with me,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: and I just feel like it's fine.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: It's kind of like there are no stakes.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: So as soon as I left, the movie left me.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: There was no lasting impression. It's just, all right, that
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: was a couple hours of my life.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: The stingers were the most important thing to me. Or
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: the most, I don't know, I guess the thing that
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: got me the most excited out of the whole movie.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: You know, there was some, and I found, even though
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I just saw it today, so I haven't had a
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: ton of time to think about it, but just, I
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: found myself in the movie asking myself.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Why am I not more into this? And I think
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: everything is great.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I just think it's literally the script, not the plot,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: not the outline, just literally the things being said. Almost
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: none of the jokes landed for me. So all of
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: it just felt like childish rambling.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: None of the jokes.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Peter Tingle was probably the only thing that made me laugh.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Peter Tingle's pretty funny.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: But everything else is just like, this is just, it's
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: like a bad super bad for the first hour of
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: kids being kids awkwardly. And just maybe I'm just old.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: So I've seen this so many times. I'm like, This
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: is the same immature ramblings of kids, but get into
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: the Spider-Man stuff now.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Just him and MJ for the first half and his
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: whole struggle to try to talk to her, I was
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: just not feeling it. And the humor was not connecting.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: It's weird.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: The plot was just thin. I don't know.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: It took me.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: I agree with the jokes. The jokes didn't land for
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: me either. I can't describe what those are, but when...
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Like a joke doesn't land and they're like.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: You get it?
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: And it's just like, stop. Just stop doing that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember that many deliberate jokes. I feel
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: like most of it was just their whatever goofy characters
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: we have there. Other than, well, I guess the Martin
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: star is nothing but jokes. Everything to do with him.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Well, for instance, the teachers. The teachers were constantly meant
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: to be funny. There's no way you're telling me that
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: was like, seriously like they're constantly meant to get a
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: laugh or a chuckle or something like and i was
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: just like these are dumbest most annoying.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Teachers it's both of those actors though and that's what
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: i do think martin star is really funny i get
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: again they just maybe overdid because i liked him just
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the little bit we got in that first movie i
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: thought he was funny here it's like there was so
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: much of him i was like maybe we shot too
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: far i'm just like i don't but the jay smooth
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: thing i don't i don't get like not just in
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: this movie like in general like does anybody know where
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: he came from i just remember him becoming like suddenly
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: he was on every tv show he became like a
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: name almost overnight i was just like how the how
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the fuck do you just get to be like a
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: star and a somewhat recognizable name and like i don't
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: know where you came from like you didn't get to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: that point from anywhere that i know just overnight one
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: day oh look it's jb smooth i'm like who the
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: fuck is jimmy smooth and now he's gotten himself crammed
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: into a spider-man i'm like that's that's i don't know
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: that's a huge leap and i still don't really think
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: he i mean he thinks he's funny i don't know
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: that anybody else really like thinks he's funny.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Not that my theater was packed because i caught a
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: matinee but there was no laughter the whole movie like
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: at no point was there like and i don't want
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: to sound like i need this you know in marvel
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: movies there has to be humor but you know considering
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that they are so you know stereotyped for being full
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: of you know funny banter for this one to like
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: just zero out of ten for me i was just
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: like none of this banter Like, you know, I get that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: It's not that there was bands around that bugged me.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: It just, it wasn't clever.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: It wasn't entertaining.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: It just felt like regular.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I don't want.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: To say regular, like it wasn't.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: None of the humor landed.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: So when they did have these like first half of
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: the movie, practically these kids just being kids talking to
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: each other. I was like, I just feel like I'm
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: eavesdropping at the mall. You know, it doesn't feel like.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: anything funny or anything that matters or anything that's getting
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: me invested in this movie is happening with the kids
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: bickering and liking each other not liking each other we're
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: over here we're over there i was just like this
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: this feels like another movie this doesn't feel spider-man feels
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: like a cameo in this movie when this is a
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: spider-man movie you know what i mean it feels weird
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: What's funny that was the only like that was the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: main thing that stuck with me actually because as you
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: said that i was like yeah plot wise like of
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the grand superhero stuff i'm just like yeah, I mean,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: most of that, it's, like, I, if I think about it,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I can be, like, oh, yeah, it was this, and this,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: and this, but, like, I don't remember that, like, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: do with a lot of the big, like, Avengers kind
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of stuff, but with this one, it was mostly, like, tone,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: and that's why I don't think, I, like, when you
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: said that, I was, like, I wasn't thinking of jokes,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: because I don't feel like it was trying to be
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: overly jokey, it was mostly, it was, it was just
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: kind of normal conversation-y stuff with kids, it wasn't.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Like, one-liners, like, it's just, That kind of banter that
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: gets funny and awkward because it's still going. For me,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: it wasn't getting funny because it was still going. It
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: was just getting annoying because it was still going. It's like,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: this isn't funny. Let's move on to the next scene
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: or joke or whatever. I don't want to sound like
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I was aggravating the theater, but it wasn't landing. So
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I was just like, all right, it's a bunch of
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: kids talking 45 minutes now. Can Spider-Man please show up
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: and let's start doing something?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, I feel like this was, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I think that's what made this a different, because we're
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: coming off of in-game and infinity war and everything is
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: so heavy that like, they were just like, Nope, not
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: going down that road. Like they specifically, I'm assuming the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: director went out of his way to be like, we
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: kind of kept the first one relatively light. And we're
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: definitely going to do that coming out of this super
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly emotional journey we just came from. So I feel
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: like it was almost purposeful to be like, let's make
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: sure we don't get like bogged down with weird, emotional
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: versions of everything and just kind of have a fun
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: high school road trip kind of movie that also we
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: work Spider-Man into. So I don't know. I like it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: That is kind of what stuck with me out of
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: it was that it wasn't trying to be what anything
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: else before it had been. It's trying to do something different. Again,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: it may not land right with seems to be the case.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: It doesn't land right. It doesn't land right. Cause especially
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: like the humor, it was definitely supposed to be humor,
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: but most of it was just like, let's, Show them
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: being awkward, almost like office humor. Like, just show this
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: awkward thing, and the pacing is telling you that it's humorous,
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: but I'm like, it's not humorous.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: It's just not the kind of humor that makes you
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: laugh out loud.
• 23:58
  Speaker 12: It's not.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: And like I said, not that I need a one-liner
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: to make me laugh, but it was just like, this
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: is still supposed to be entertaining.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I had like laughter blue balls.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: I was just like waiting to laugh, and it just
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: didn't happen.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: The one thing in that little world that did work
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: for me is and again because I think it it's
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: not an important part of anything it was like a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: side thing that like as soon as they set up
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the scenario and it fell flat I'm just like okay
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: so these kids are obviously getting to get the whole
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: little like Ned and Betty thing I don't know like
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that was I not even like funny like it was
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: just like I liked that little connection I like again
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: because we knew almost nothing about Betty so we get
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: this weird little like, version of her crammed into the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: friends now. I don't know. That whole little relationship and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the fact that it worked itself out over the trip.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: That was... I don't know. That was kind of fun,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I thought. Most of the other... Like, Flash is just there.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: He's just a dick. And, like... I also think... And
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I said this at the time when we got that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: first trailer. I was like, it is really... odd and
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: convenient that everybody we knew.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: From his class except got zapped out except for the.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: One guy except the one guy that's now the competition
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the new rival but yeah everyone that was recognizable of
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: those basically those you know four characters and peter like
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: we're all like in the same little group and now
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: here they are and nobody i don't know that just
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: seems like what luck And or writing that made this
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: come true.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Did anyone catch how soon after everyone came back from
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: the blip that this occurred?
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I want to say it says something about a year.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: A year?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Within a year or one year. I thought somewhere in
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: the beginning. Because they were also complaining about having to
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: do school again.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Remember?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Because they were halfway in. Here they are in their
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: next school year because they have to do the whole
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: grade over.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Which again, I like that stuff I thought was interesting. Again,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I've already seen people complaining about that because everything that
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: was so serious about Endgame and Infinity War, it totally
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: is just like, eh, let's have fun with it. So
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: they totally lighten the tone of everything so much so
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: that it's like.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: Kind of unrealistic.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, kind of, but I don't... That's the other
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: thing is I don't think there's a way you could
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: do it realistically without crippling society. You know what I mean? Literally,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: if half of the people were gone... the amount.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Of damage would be insane.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And one year later, we would not be okay.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: You would not be going between countries freely.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and here's some weird.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: And again, I don't want to be that guy because
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: the more you think about stuff, the more you can
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: put holes in it. If people are going to reappear
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: when they were when they blipped, what happened to all
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the people that were flying?
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: Oh, no.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Like, seriously. I mean, did bodies just fall out of
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the air?
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Like, the planes didn't come back. So did everyone that
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: was flying... Just fall. Anyone that was on a boat,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: just go into the water. I mean, there's so many
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: scenarios where it's.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Like- Just mowed down.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: There's so many dead people because- It's so terrible. What
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: if they built a building in five years in a
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: place where you live- You're trapped inside a piece of concrete.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: You rematerialize inside concrete. I mean- No.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of weird stuff they- and again I
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: think that was the approach too I think it was
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: very purposeful of like we've almost like getting to the
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: huge Marvel thing is like we've almost painted ourselves into
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: a corner we are creating so many through lines we
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: now have included time travel we're working in multiverses you
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: know it's like we can't keep tying our hands here
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: how about we just don't fucking care like we just
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: like take a real breezy tone on this one and
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: be like, yep, so everybody came back.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: And I don't, like in a way that's what you
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: had to have to make any of this, especially the
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: tone of this movie. Like if you came back and like,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: even the, when they do the in memoriam, it's a joke.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It's the Whitney Houston, super serious, badly edited by high
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: school kids version. And I'm like, We needed to acknowledge
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: that it happened or I guess catch up the people who,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: what person didn't go see Endgame and came to see this,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: but whatever. So like, you know, like we needed a
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: little bit of a tiny recap, but if you did
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: it serious, you're just going to drag this thing down
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: right from the get go.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I thought the beginning was very awkward because it comes
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: in with that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: And it goes right to Mexico. And it's like the moment.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Mysterio walks up to Fury, which is only like three minutes.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: And it's like them pulling up and hey, here's this guy.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: And then it goes to Spider-Man, Logan, to Peter. And
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: it was very, to me, it was weird. It's like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: why did you show Fury, Hill, and Mysterio for like
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: 10 seconds? And then cut to the actual movie starting
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: in school. Like, it was weird to me. I didn't
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: understand why that was in the beginning like that.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I think it was like that little, like, teaser adventure thing.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: It's like with every, you know, you're midway into some
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: sort of weird adventure when you start your Indiana Jones
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: movie or your James Bond movie. Or, like, you get
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: that little snippet of, like, the end of an action scene.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: And then we get to, like, okay, and now back
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: to what normally happens at this point. So I think
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: it was that kind of, like, teaser intro thing. That, like,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: then to be like, oh, yeah, by the way, Samuel L.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Jackson back. Don't worry. He'll be here. That is, I mean.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like on paper, everything about this movie sounds great.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Like I said, for me, there was something in. I
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: wasn't engaged. I guess it's only, and I can't, I'm
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: still trying to figure out why. Because I like the
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: characters and stuff. But I found myself in the movie
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: just being like, I don't feel anything.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not laughing.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not particularly excited I'm not like I just really
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: felt like almost the whole movie I was waiting for
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: it to get interesting and it never it was visually
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: interesting I mean there is visually it was incredible but
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: just it never other than Peter I didn't really care
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: about else in the movie.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I still like Ned. But again, Ned wasn't the Ned
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: we knew as soon as he got involved. Again, that's
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: the only part I like, because that is so many
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: people that as soon as they're in a relationship, the
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: rest of their life disappears. Again, it's like a few
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: snippets here and there version of it, but I'm like,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I like that little dynamic. But yeah, everything else... This
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: is what I was going to say, though. This is
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: what I was going to ask you. Because the plot
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: itself as it goes on because maybe that's why I
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: attached myself more to the tone and what was going
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: on with the kids because as you get into the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: bigger superhero plot it's bullshit so like does that sort
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: of somewhere in the back of your mind be like
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: well I'm obviously not going to be attached to any
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: of this part of the plot because I don't know
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: like it does play this game with you of like
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: setting and again I think it's all purposeful it's not
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: by accident it is the way that they put this
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: whole structure of this movie together is meant to be
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: kind of a a weird pulling the rug out from
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: under you kind of thing that's the whole way that
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: this story goes but does it doing that also kind
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: of undercut the emotional connection to any of what's going
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: on in.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: The bigger story probably like I mean I they just
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: kept Mysterio as like you know, I'm going to be
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: this good guy. But it's like, I knew he wasn't.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's too fucking nice. And it was just like
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: so long.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Like so long, they just kept him up like that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: And I was just like, oh my God, just turn.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: Just turn already.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I heard at screenings, this was one of the movies
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: where they were taking phones, which they only do when
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: they really want to keep a secret.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: And I would like to think they're smart enough that
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: they were doing that because of stingers. But I can't
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: help but wonder if in their head, Even though there's
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: comic books out there and everyone knows that Mysterio is
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: a villain already, if somewhere in their head they thought
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: there was still the basic general mainstream that wouldn't know
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: and we were going to try as hard as we
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: could to swerve them.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Probably. Because I was just like, everyone's just waiting for it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. I was like,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: but you're thinking of a comic book fan and even
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: just general geeks know it. Because that's the thing. I
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: didn't read anything that had Mysterio in it growing up.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: But I knew the name, and I knew, like, as
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: soon as they cast you, I was like, isn't.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: He the villain?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: He's Marvel's Scarecrow.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: He's kind of Marvel's Scarecrow.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, isn't he the villain? I was like, huh,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: this will be different. They're bringing in a big name
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: like that to whatever it is they're going to do
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: with him. But I was just like, he is, again,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: he's not a super high-profile name for regular people. And
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: now this has become the biggest franchise in the world, so...
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: think how many regular Joes in the world now are
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: just like, oh, I'm going to go see that movie
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and probably have no idea who these characters are. Like
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: whatever weird label, like, Again, the geeks are out there
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: just feeding off Easter eggs right and left. But these
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: guys are like, boom, just way over their head.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know why we call them Easter eggs anymore.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: It's very obviously planted.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: If you have dozens, dozens, quote unquote, of Easter eggs,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: that's just attention to detail now. Don't call it an
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Easter egg.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: But some of them are so blatantly like, this is
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: for you, dorks.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: The license plates are just calling out comic book issues
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: all over the place.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: That's not even a normal reference now. At that point,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I was kind of like, come on man you're just
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: trying too hard at that point like the poster is
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: cool but like the license plates i was like you
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: were trying too fucking hard like you're just you're laying
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: it in there so far so deep for geeks that
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: even those geeks aren't going to care that much that
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you made a license plate so just save you some.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Time and i heard no i shouldn't say there was
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: theories that this was meant to be a lot more
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: meta and ideas that since Mysterio's whole thing is deception
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: and fooling you, that they were going to bring it
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: into the trailer and have the trailer just even fool
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: us as people.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Well, see, I felt like it almost pulled a reverse
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Iron Man 3. It's taking the villain is totally fooling people,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: only he was, I'm going to be the biggest, baddest
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: villain ever, and that's all bullshit. Where this is, I'm
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: going to be the greatest superhero ever, and it's all bullshit.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: So it just kind of, reversed it although that's the
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: thing to me it doesn't because I know you have
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: more issues with it but I really like Iron Man
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: 3 and I don't feel like that turn takes away
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: from the emotional like investment like I feel like I
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: just as much am invested in what's going on at
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: least with the Tony Stark character again it still has
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: a kind of a weak villain at the end but
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: overall I still am way more invested in what's going
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: on there where here once we get to how grand
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: this scheme is I'm just kind of like oh okay
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: And just kind of shrug it off because I'm like,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: it's fine. You know, it's not, I don't think anything's
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: badly done in this, but it's not, there's something about
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: it that flips that switch and you're just like, oh, okay.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Like it just totally kills whatever that investment was you
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: had in it. And I don't, and I'm trying to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: think if it were, like if these were actual giant
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: creatures that were coming from another dimension, would you have
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: been sucked in? Like, do you think that would have
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: changed it or not? I don't know. I don't even
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: know if that's the case. But definitely once they weren't,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, so they're doing that. Okay.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: And it was just kind of like, what else we
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: got to look at? What other weird stuff?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I think on paper, there's a lot
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: of smart things done in this movie. But it's just,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: and like I said, I'm still processing it because it
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: was just hours ago. But the more, I feel like, again,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: it's like the more I think about things, the more
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: holes and weird things I'm going to find, especially with
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: everything with, Nick and Hill being, spoiler, Skrulls.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Super spoiler, jump to the end.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Which, in retrospect, does make sense in the movie. I
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: noticed two things that I thought was weird when it
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: was happening. When Fury is explaining the initial situation.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: He says something to Peter.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: He says, your Earth. And I think you can take
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: it in context of Mysterio talking about dimensions, but the
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: way that Nick is looking at Peter and he says, something, something,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: your earth. And I'm like, why did Nick say your earth?
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: And so when that happened at the end, I'm like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: oh my God, they hinted at it. It finally makes sense.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: And it was the other thing where him and Hill
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: are walking and he compares something to a Kree splinter cell.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, why would Fury- be talking about the Kree.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: So I noticed both of those at the end. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, they did drop hints. It wasn't a
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: complete swerve. But like I said, stuff like that makes
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: me look back on it. Like there was a lot
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: of smart things in there. Like I said, there was
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: just an it factor in the movie that just didn't
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: grab me and get me really invested.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: There is, yeah. I mean, it is a weird dynamic
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: that does, like I said, it leaves these holes that
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: maybe become issues for you. That is one of those
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: that I'm like, so... After we get to the end
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: of that reveal, it is one of those, then you
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: sit around being a dork going, so how far back
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: do you think they had that planned?
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Because it insinuates it's just this movie, but who knows?
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Captain Marvel released, but I mean, in theory, but I don't, again,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: they were already trying to like- But now we're talking
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: about the 20 year gap or whatever.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Because Captain Marvel was the 90, we're back to now.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: So it's like, if he's had that kind of relationship
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: with them, we don't know what kind of black ops
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: stuff Fury's been using them for or how many- Which, again,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: is when we start, like, we've opened it up so much,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: we've painted it in this corner where now we can
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: get out of anything.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: We can be like, oh, well, that wasn't even Iron
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Man when that happened because he was a Skrull. And
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: he was like, you can start, like, geek backtracking and
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: getting yourself out of any situation.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: In my head, I went all the way back to,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: not Civil War, to Winter Soldier. I was like, was
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: it when he died in that car accident? Has it
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: been all of this time? But then, you know, he's
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: alive in.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: The ship, too.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: But he is alive. So I'm like, well, why? And
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: where the hell is he? Why do they need him there?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: And that's a personality change for him. For him to
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: let someone else do the thing. It's just like, what
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: is going on? In the comics, he does... I think
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Joss Whedon did this. I think when Joss Whedon got
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: to write, he did this. In the comics, there is
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: an expanded version of S.H.I.E.L.D. I think it's called S.W.O.R.D.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: And they have a space station or something where it's basically.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: When Nick realizes.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: you know, it's not just about bad guys on earth.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: We got to watch everything now. And so there is
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: an intergalactic version of shield. So I'm assuming they're hinting
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: at that, that that's him in the space station, just
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: being an intergalactic shield now.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that, again, these were things that only
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: in recent, because again, it's been a few days for me.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: So the more I thought about it, the more I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: kept going. So, okay. Then, cause that is one of those,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: like even in the movie, he keeps like rattling off
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: other people. Like why me? And now it's like, is
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that why? Like, is there, is, because normally would Fury
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: have gone to this dumb high school kid? But he
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: still seems to be following Fury's command, more or less. So,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: but like, it really got to a point of like, okay, yeah,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: we lost a few heroes in the last movie, but
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: nobody's fucking, like, you can't, like, how about, I don't know,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Scarlet Witch? Like, is anybody more skilled to take on
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: something like this giant monster? Yeah, I'm like, any of this? Like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I know it's supposed to be a solo movie, but
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: the fact that they're working in, yeah, all of this
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: other bigger, when it, within the context of the movie,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be world ending. Like this dude's planet
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: was destroyed.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Suicide squad ended up being like yeah you know so
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: everyone was like well why isn't the justice league there
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: if this is a thing that could take out the
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: planet why didn't they call black panther why didn't they
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: call any of these other people this is now a
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: global thing why is it just the kid from queens
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: can do it and nobody else that's Like I said,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I don't like that the more I think about it,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: the more holes I can find. And I think that's
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: what I kind of knew in the theater. It's like,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: this is loose. You're playing it real fast and loose.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: And I don't... Knowing it's Sony, I feel like maybe
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: there's a disconnect somewhere in the writing. We're like, we're
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: not going to call Marvel on this. Just put it in.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: There's just some things that I'm like.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is a little... I mean, I went back
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: to double check and he also did Homecoming. And I'm like,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I think Homecoming's pretty tight as a story. And I
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: think it actually has... For as lighthearted as it is
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: compared to a lot of other stuff, it still has stakes.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And you do kind of, like, once we get to
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: having a great villain, it's like, I really think that
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: gives it so much weight at the end of it.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Well, and maybe that is part of it, because Michael
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Keaton was awesome as Vulture. That scene in the car
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: was awesome. And nothing like that happened in this one.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Jake was just.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Jake's kind of hamming it up once he does the turn. Like,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: he's a super nice guy, and then it's nothing but hammy.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Expositioned everything on that bar counter.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Man, that scene didn't go well for me at all.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Because I was just like, so you're going to tell
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: us the whole movie in five minutes right now? It's like,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I get the context. You're celebrating you did this thing.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: But it felt heavy handed to me like, let's explain
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: everything to you right now before the rest of the movie.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: Like going around to his whole crew and everybody's clapping.
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: I was like, all right, okay.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: And I dug the connections. It was a scientist from
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Civil War. It was a scientist from the first or
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: second Iron Man.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I dug that.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: But it was just so much exposition at one time.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: That it just felt like, all right, let's look at
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: the audience and go, look, shit's going to get weird.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: We're using all this crazy technology. It works. Just trust us.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: It works. Okay, so back. That's the thing I was
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: going to say. It is a little ham-fisted in that scene,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: but I do like that it's not only that any
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: type of movie like this, it has stakes and it
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: has weight to it. But the one thing I will
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: give what MCU's been trying to do all this time
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: is Everything is a continuing story. And everything really, like
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: the things that happen from one movie, not only like, oh,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: we mention them later, like it affects everything that takes
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: place throughout this ongoing story. So it's like you can't
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: have Civil War happen without everything that happened in Ultron.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: It's like you can't have, you know, what happens in Spider-Man,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the first Spider-Man, only happens because of what happens in
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the first avengers like everything from the very first avengers
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: movie leads to the whole michael keaton character arc and
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: like it all goes together so like all of that
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: is so well structured that again i like the basic
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: idea of what they were doing here but it is
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: weird how much they were just like and then this
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: guy and then this guy like it might have been
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: a little easier to just sort of pull like him
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: as the main guy And, you know, Tony Stark was
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: a jerk and he stole my idea. Yeah. Which, I
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: guess we've already done that because that is basically what
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: happens in Iron Man 3 too.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Well, and I also, again, when you think about, like
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I said, just the more you think about it, the
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: more you can compare. In many ways, this is Ultron
• 42:52
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• 42:54
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• 42:59
  Speaker 3: sunglasses got in this dude's hands, the whole world was
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: at risk. In a way, it felt kind of like
• 43:05
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• 43:07
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• 43:09
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• 43:12
  Speaker 3: created a new villain. You know, even dead, you're a problem. Like,
• 43:15
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• 43:17
  Speaker 2: And yet, how smooth did he look in those glasses?
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• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Astounding live action excitement. The super adventure of everybody's favorite superhero. Spider-Man.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Now he lives.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Did you guys notice the weird shit with Flash Thompson?
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Which I assume will matter in the next movie. There
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: was a weird underlying plot with him. His parents are
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: gone or dead or missing. they hinted at it like
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: when he first put the glasses on and he was
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: seeing everyone's text he's like texting his mom and dad
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: like hey i haven't heard from you a couple of
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: days are you doing.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Okay is that what those said and then at.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: The end when They're getting picked up and like the
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: chauffeurs are just like, oh, mom and dad didn't come.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: And the guy just shakes his head. So there's something
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I was trying to decide if it was that or
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: they're just trying to build up to give him like
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: a reason why he's such a dick. Because he's always been.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: There's some kind of like empathy for that like dick
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: rich kid.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Well, but what?
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Again, this is me thinking what if his parents die
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: back in Queens while they're on the trip and he
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: blames Peter? Because I kind of feel like this is
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: leading to something for the third movie. So some reason
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: for him to be mad at Peter. And now that
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: he knows who Spider-Man is because.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Of the end, now he's like, why are.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: You going on vacation? You know, instead of you're a superhero,
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: you should have been here. And so part of me
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: wonders if he's going to.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Be the Osborn? Do we know him? Oh my God,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: he is.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Do they call him Thompson?
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: You cracked the case. Did they call him Flash Thompson
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: or just Flash?
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Because I was wondering, you could make him Osborn. Maybe
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: he loses his mom and the dad's still around. Something
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: where he has a reason to resent Peter specifically. So, again,
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know what was going on with Flash, but
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: those two things are very weird. Something's going on with
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: his parents, and it has to play in the next movie.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Well, and then the other, what's the... the competition dude
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: because he's he's like the football jock in the comics
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: i think he's just for this movie i think he
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: was in one comic yeah like literally he was just
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: there was one issue where they they were making each
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: other jealous and she went on a date with him
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: something like that happened he's not even a fundamental character
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: are they trying to set this up to turn him
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: into something down the line of like you know you've
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: really wronged me peter or if it's just gonna be
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: like we needed a romantic i think they just needed
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: a competition you know something that.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Jock asshole yeah I mean, in all honesty, it kind
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: of should have, could have been Flash's character.
• 51:13
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I guess they just didn't want to push it. That's
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: why it's weird that they introduced.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe him and MJ wouldn't have felt, it wouldn't have
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: felt right. So maybe they were like, hmm.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like competition either because everybody knows what
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: a dick he is. So you kind of couldn't even
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: buy that she might want to go out with him.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Where at least this guy, he's like, oh, he's tall
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: and handsome and okay, I can see, you know, normally
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: somebody would go for that. But, you know, I don't know.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: They were born in stable orbits within black holes.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Creatures formed from the primary elements.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Air, water, fire, earth. The science division had a technical name.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: We just called them elementals. Versions of them exist across
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: our mythologies. Turns out the myths are real.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Like Thor.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Thor was a myth and now I study him in
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: my physics class.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: These myths are threats.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: They first materialized on my earth many years ago.
• 52:01
  Speaker 10: I was part of the last battalion left trying to
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: stop them. All we did was.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Delay the inevitable.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: The elementals are here now, attacking the same coordinates.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Our satellites confirm it.
• 52:10
  Speaker 11: We have one mission. Kill it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: And you're coming with us.
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: Mr.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Fury, this all seems like big-time, you know, huge superhero
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: And, I mean, I'm just a friendly neighborhood.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Spider-Man, sir.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: The special effects were really cool. Like, when he had
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: that whole just string of illusions that first time he
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: put it on him, that stuff was amazing.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Again, like, he is a good director, so I do
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: feel like when you give him, like, free reign to
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: come up with cool stuff, like, I don't think you
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: would have gotten that from a lot of other, like,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: guys that they've handed off a one-off. Here, go direct
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: this movie. And, like, he does have kind of his
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: own cool style. And I think even, like, the effects with... Again,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: the first couple, I was just like, eh, it looks like...
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: But once we got to the final one, that whole
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: creature battle, like, as much as I usually... hate a
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: giant CG creature fight at the end, I guess, once again,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: because I know this is bullshit, even within the context
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: of the story, I could stop and go, oh, this
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: actually looks kind of good, you know, so, like, it,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: it almost gave an excuse to be, like, it's okay
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: that it looks like a big fake CG creature, because
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: within the story, it's a big fake CG creature, I
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: think that's the only thing that kind of rescued that
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: for me, because, yeah, by the time we get to
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the last one, I'm at least trying to appreciate, you know, what,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: what What good work they kind of did on creating
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: that creature where those first couple were not so much.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I appreciated the.
• 53:31
  Speaker 10: The sand one was.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. The water one just.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: For me, I wasn't so much leaning on the elementals.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: It was more of when they had their first confrontation
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: and he was like, you know, the Hall of Mirrors
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: and there was all the Spider-Men.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And he's like trapped in the glass bullhead.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Like that whole string, it felt like five minutes, but
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: that whole string of I thought that was all great.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: And when he tried to confront him in the building,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: and he was just constantly kind of shaking what was
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: going on and tricks him into getting hit by a train.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I was a little on the fence, again, and it's
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: just because comic nerd thing, but I didn't understand why
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: they acted like his spider sense was gone. I get
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: that he can't feel it to illusion, and I think
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: that's what they were going at, is that he thinks
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: it's gone because his stuff isn't real, so he's not
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: technically in danger, so he's not feeling it. But I
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: was just like.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: But wouldn't drones try to kill you? He would feel
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: a real train, though, right? I was like, he would... Yeah.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: It would work with that.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: He was having trouble with his spidey senses before he
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: went on the trip, though.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Wait, they said it again. Is it like a PTSD?
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: What little I'd heard is, yeah, how much he was
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: affected by everything that happened... a lot of it with
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: the dealing with the Tony Stark thing, too. I think
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: him dying was enough to deal with, and then him
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: coming back and losing Tony. Oh, wait, no, that's right,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: because the banana.
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: When she hit him with the banana in the very beginning.
• 54:52
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Because, yeah, that's why she even said Peter Tingle, because... He's.
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: Basically just like, he's just too stressed out to be Spidey.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Which that, again, I was almost like, That's almost too
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: similar to Spider-Man 2. Because he starts going through that
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: losing his powers because he doesn't... Doesn't have confidence. It's
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: the Tinkerbell version. If you got to believe in yourself,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: everybody clap for Spider-Man and he'll save the train. It
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: felt like... I love 2, but that's the one thing
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: that felt weird and out of place. I'm like, why
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: is he losing his power because he doesn't feel it?
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: That was always weird to me. And this seemed a little...
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: At least they don't go that far with it. But yeah,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I guess there's at least... A reason why he's losing it,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: but it still seems weird. Something that should be kind
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: of ingrained with the powers is now just kind of
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: for convenient writing purposes.
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: It makes the most sense, though. Of any of your
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: powers to lose, the Spidey sense seems like it would
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: require you to have a relatively unfogged mind to really
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: react to it. And if your brain is all mush.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: If you're just distracted all the time, then yeah, maybe
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: you're not picking up on, again.
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: It's like the Spidey sense might still be there, but
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: you're like not tuning into it or something. I don't know. But.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: And then you get hit by a train.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Did you guys feel like the hallway scene at the
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: end was supposed to feel a little bit like Star Wars?
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Did you notice he closed his eyes before he did
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: the whole, I was like, Marvel? Are you doing a
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Luke with him? Because he closes his eyes and uses
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: his spider senses to get down the hall. And then
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: there was another Star Wars reference, right? Something about.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, you wouldn't get this line because it's not from
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Star Wars. I figured that was just a shout out
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: to dorks in the entire audience and the fact that
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: we can make all the Star Wars references we want.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: We own everything! So, I thought it was one and
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: the other. It was like, we have free reign to
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: make all the references we want. We own you guys.
• 56:47
  Speaker 11: No doubt.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like that scene in the hallway. I
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: thought that was incredible.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I like that because it's... Again, sometimes he
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: gets so, like, caught up in the suit and the
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: technology that, like, it is good to see that he
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: does have, like, ingrained, you know, superpowers. Yeah, he still
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: is a superhero himself without the Iron Man suit.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing with Tony. Tony didn't take
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: any fighting classes. He's just a dude with tech.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: But it's like, Peter.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: not that he's taken fighting classes either, but he's like
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: a gymnast. You know, that's the thing that Tony didn't
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: really have. Like he's very agile and all that stuff.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: That was, I sort of made the reference in comparison earlier,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: but so much in the middle of this trip that
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: I get a vibe of like, and that's why I
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: was like, maybe that's why this one feels so different
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: is it's like they were almost, this is, and I
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: sort of made that reference with Black Panther. It had
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: its own like, super spy James Bonfield to it. That's
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: all the middle of this became to me. It was
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: just like, so he's a dude with a secret identity.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: He's trying to hide it from everybody else. He's taking,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: he's got this massive like spy organization that's given him
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: orders to go out and do these things. He's going
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: to all these exotic locations. He's getting new gadgets and
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: tech from the, I mean like, it's almost like every
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: checklist on there.
• 58:10
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: It was like, is that like, are we gonna, we've
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: talked about having like offshoot side kind of movies that
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: are almost a different style, a different sub genre. Like,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: is that kind of where we're going to go with
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: some of them? It's like, this is a one-off spy
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: movie for Spider-Man and he's in the, the cool black costume.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. It had a weird vibe of
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: that in the middle of there.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: I was feeling a lot of wizard of Oz, like
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of wizard of Oz.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Okay. Which version?
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Well, just kind of like thematically. It felt like, um,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: The green mist. Felt like the green curtain.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Just the whole premise of him, you know, fooling everybody.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: The fields of flowers that he picks them up. And
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: I was like, that was like all the flowers outside
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: of Oz. There was things in there where I was like,
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, they're kind of like, not
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: that it was heavy handed, but I almost feel like
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: there was like these innuendos to Wizard of Oz. And
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: the fact that he's not at home.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: You know, he's away.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: Just, it felt like there was, a click tonally it
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: was supposed to feel a bit like wizard of oz.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah i can kind of especially the the wizard illusion
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: part of it totally.
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: Fits yeah yeah i can see.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: This so again asking the as we get into the
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: and then the bigger questions. So we, I remember when
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: we saw that first trailer, I think I even messaged you.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, so that explains our, our multiverse that
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: we're going to get into.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: So is that all bullshit now? I guess it's like,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: because I thought that I thought this is what I
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: thought was, is that I don't remember what the earth
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: number was, but whatever the earth number was before, it
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: wasn't six one six or whatever he said it was.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: It was like, it had nines in it. So I
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: was like, that's not even the same earth number we
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: were using before. So I don't know.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's supposed to be an idea date.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: He has a different map.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: And he gave us our accurate address or whatever.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: But it was just weird. Like, it was bugging me
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: how much Nick and Hill just bought into everything. At
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the movie, I'm like, this is the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: most scrupulous man ever. He is totally on board. Well,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: it sounds like bullshit.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Elementals?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Like, in a room full of scientists, you're telling me to...
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: And I know it's comic book shit.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Shit is weird.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: But come on. Elementals?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 8: Like.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: You really tell me, like... Earth becomes sentient, becomes creature.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: It felt weak.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: I think I would have dug it more if they
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: would have taken four actual villains and said, these four
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: villains escape from this dimension and I'm chasing them. Make
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: it Sandman, Magma Man. There are villains that do these things.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: It just felt cheap to me to make it elementals.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: And then the fact that most of them are dead already.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Two are already dead. They kill the one, they fight
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: the fire. It's like, I don't know. Again, it was thin.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I didn't ever feel like any of this was an
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: actual threat.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't. Maybe that's the point.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Were they purposely trying to do this because it's bullshit?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: Because, yeah, when they pulled the elementals, I was like,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: what is this whack-ass shit? That ain't real.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: And even, like, Gyllenhaal's, like, kind of making fun of you.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: You're ridiculous.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: There's not an element fire. You know, what do you
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: mean elementals? Like, where's the nitrogen beast? Where's the hydrogen beast?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: It does sound like something out of a comic book.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I'll give him that. So, like, again, he's making fun of, like,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: you're a ridiculous story. You totally tricked him. So they're
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: kind of making fun of their own ridiculous story within
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: the context of it. So there's a little metaphor for you.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. It did feel like a very
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: comic book-y thing. And is that why, I mean, now, again,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I want to know how involved he is. Because is
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: that why Hill and Samuel L. are just buying into this?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Because it's not them. So are these guys not near
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: as swift and schooled in the ways of all this
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: shit that's been going on these last 20, 30 years?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: So they're just like, oh, yeah, he said it's elemental. Like,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: are they buying it? But I'm like, is Samuel not
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: up there with a monitor going, wait.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Fucking elemental. That's the kind of stuff that I don't understand.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like, is he not connected at all
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: to what they're doing? Because it seems like he'd still
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: be calling the shots because he's Fury. Like, that's what
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: he fucking does. So, yeah, I don't. That part, again,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: it's sort of one or the other, but when you
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: have both, it doesn't make any sense anymore.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't imagine him calling me at the end
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: on the phone to kind of be like, yeah, we
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: gave him the glasses. You're just now telling him? You've
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: spent three days chasing elementals over the planet. You're just
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: now being like, yeah, he's got the glasses.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: It's all good.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Again, it doesn't make sense at all with Fury's character.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: If this is a global issue... He's going to hang
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: out in the ship on a virtual beach instead of
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: being like, well, maybe this is something that requires me.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: He'd already signed up for these hours of vacation. He
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: had to take them. You don't want to lose them.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: Oh, my God. What if Fury knew about Magnifico? He
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: wouldn't do that. What if it was like a test?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be shitty of Fury to be like,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: He'll figure it out. Sink or swim.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: I can't think of another reason why he would not
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: be involved.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: It never made sense to me that Mysterio could convince Fury.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Even if it was the fake one, this is still
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: a creature that has space.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Technology and stuff.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: He should still be able to look at you in
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: the face and be like, no, man, that shit ain't real.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: That guy's been around a long time. He's seen a
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: lot of weird space shit. He should know. I've never
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: heard of any elements like that. I've been to all
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: these different places. I've never heard of this nonsense, so.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for them to buy in, not only into this guy,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: but into the idea of a multiverse, an idea of elementals,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: you know, it was, and I get, like I said,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: you know, that's Mysterio's thing as long as, but it
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: just felt like it's damaging on Fury's character to be
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: this gullible. And just like back to Final Den, he
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: was like not even really doing anything the whole movie.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: He's like, really?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: You just, you just don't care now? You phoned in
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: this whole movie?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: But I wonder how far away Fury is at this point.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: Like maybe he can't just go back and fix everything.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: That's what they said. He's not on that space station
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: from Captain Marvel. So wherever he is, it's somewhere further
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: away at least. So yeah, we don't know what they're
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: planning with that or what he's... Again, how long has
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: he been there? How long has this whole process been
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: going on?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: And was I imagining it, or was it a ship
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: full of Skrulls? That's what it looked like. It was
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: other green people, right?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: So he is.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't... I guess technically they could still be
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: doing the sword thing, but it's just... It's a very
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: weird way of doing it. Especially when they're acting like
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: this is the end of the first... Well, the end
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: of the phase and whatever. It's like, yeah, but you're already...
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: kind of connecting yourself in the next one a bit.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: It's not quite a clean cut.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: You're doing some strange things. I think they have to.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: I think the relatively clean cut was the last one.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: And now it's like, well, we don't want to totally
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: cut it off so that nobody comes back.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: It's like Netflix, where the second to last episode is
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: the real finale, and the last episode is to get
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: you hyped for another season.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: While we're running the credits, we're going to be like, hey,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: next up, in the next nine seconds, we're going to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: start Spider-Man, and he's going to go on a crazy
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: trip and keep you invested a little bit. That's why
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I thought it was weird that as quick as this
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: came out after, after, you know, end game, just like,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: is that going to step on the toes? Is that
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: going to like, are we, are we not done like
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: grieving yet? Are we ready for a fun adventure? Like,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: so it's amazing that it financially did as well as
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: it did, but yeah, I do wonder if like, maybe
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: we needed a little more time. Maybe we needed to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: end it like kind of differently, but you do, I
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: think you do have to like put those like feelers
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: out into the next one. So that way people are
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: just not capping it off and be like, okay, I'm
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: glad I saw that MCU stuff. We're done with that.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Let's go see the new Star Wars. You kind of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: have to keep dragging them along every step of the way.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Which is why I want to believe the Skrull stuff
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: is definitely just going forward. Because the last thing you
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: want is everyone questioning the last phase. Because how long
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: was Furious Skrull? It's like, let's just let that be
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: a done phase. Let's assume it's just this movie and
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: going forward. Cause if not, you're going to blow everyone's minds.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: If you pull some stuff like that, where fury has
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: been doing stuff in the past with scrolls.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Again, every one of these has made that move. Like
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: they always go back and be like, ah, but you
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: see like 12 years ago, this happened and it made
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: this happen. And that's why we're here. So like planting
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: that seed is like too obvious. Like they can't not
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: make good on that now. Right? Like, We've already thrown
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: out so many big... The fact that not only do
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: we have the loophole to use time travel to do
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: whatever the fuck we want now, but we also can
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: have a doppelganger version of whoever we want at any
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: given moment, too.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: Things are going to get real confusing.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Or they can get real confusing.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: We've opened it up maybe too much?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: But again, comic books have been doing that forever. They
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: have no rules, essentially, so... Sometimes they make that work
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: just fine. So I'm not saying it's definitely trouble. It's
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: got potential for trouble.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, Spider-Pig is canon now.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 7: Damn straight.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: And it's pretty entertaining.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Miles should be in the next movie. Have it where
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: he didn't blip. Because he was the younger brother to Glover.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Have it where he didn't blip. So he's like Collins age.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: He's Peter's age.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: And have them.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Have them actually be in a movie together. After Spider-Verse,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Miles needs to be in a movie.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was just kind of geeky stuff on the internet,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: but they were like, all those big Iron Man murals,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: they might.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: Have been done by Miles. I saw where people were
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: shooting it down. I was like, no, those are in Queens.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: He's in the Bronx.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: I heard that too. Not only are geeks coming up
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: with crazy stuff, but they're ready to shoot it down.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Don't worry. Internet, that's what it's for.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Did it feel to you guys that, I felt like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: there was some, I don't know what you would call it,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: some evolutions. I felt like as much as they ignored
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Ben in the first movie, I feel like Stark's the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: new Ben, right? This is the guy that's dead.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: That he will always still be trying to impress and
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: appease and stuff, even in death. I felt like there
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: was almost like a weird passing of the torch there
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: where it's like, Stark will be his Ben going forward.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I think definitely. I think it's, it just sort of, like,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: the Ben thing, I guess, kind of pushed him into
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: that area, but it didn't give him, like, the fuel
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: for the fire that, like, Stark was. Like, Stark, especially
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: the losing Stark part of it. That is something, again,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: with the direction end of it, how much he worked
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: in this, overpowering shadow of Tony Stark everywhere he went
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: is kind of cool. And some of that imagery was
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: really great. It is funny that it was just Stark.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: There was no... I agree.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Captain.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: america like yeah i was like captain america too even
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: like you know i would kind of understand if they
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: didn't know who black widow.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: But yeah captain america surely right definitely captain america like
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: he was already like a fucking poster boy in world
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: war ii so like you'd think they'd be thrown it
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: is interesting they put him in the memoriam too it's like.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming they've told the world he's dead because if
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: not they'd have to explain why he's an old man
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: so it's like did they just tell the world he
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: died too and he's just kind of quietly living.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: That was them like trying to go ahead and put
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: a cap on that no pun intended or if it
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: was really just like well we have to come up
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: with a cover story because otherwise we have to explain
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: that he did this thing that people probably would argue
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: he didn't need to be doing.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: So i just and i it also it felt like
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: a ben thing when um happy was like passing the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: message something like heavy is the head that wears the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: crown like it felt like that was the with great
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: power it thing I was like this is he's his
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Ben now.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah kind of what I mean what are your thoughts
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: on the Happy because Happy has become like an essential
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: part of Spider-Man now because he's the only real crossover
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: in these two movies more or less I mean there's
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: tons of little ones but I'm like our main character
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: that's keeping everything running and keeping the sort of like
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: connected to S.H.I.E.L.D. or whatever Fury's running now it's like
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: all of that goes through Happy now so like I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: don't know. Like, in a way, I'm glad to see
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: him back in the series. Like, just the, you know, Favreau. Like,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, you created all this, so I'm kind of
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: glad that you're not like the, you know, bastard child.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, Feige's taking care of him. After what Feige went
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: through with X-Men, I think he's like, I'm going to
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: take care of you.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: You did a real good job. I want to keep
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: you involved. I'll get you a paycheck every couple of movies.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: It's good. Like, yeah. But it's, it is funny that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: he totally stepped into because they already like especially in
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: in civil war like they're playing the whole like chemistry
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: with with aunt may so now that he's gone and
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it because they immediately put him back with
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: pepper then it's like well we want to you know
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: we want to give her somebody you know she's it
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: is ridiculous that she's by herself because She's still Marissa Tomei,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: for God's sake.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can try to put her in all the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: mom pants you want. Don't think that makes her unattractive.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: You can try as hard as you want. Yeah, I'm
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: not saying it's taken away from it, but they were
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: up to her mid-stomach area. The ones after she threw
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: the banana at him. I was just like, Jesus, did
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: they make mom jeans any more mom than that mom
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: right there? Good Lord, those were great.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: They're back in style now.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: And she's rocking it.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: Literally everyone under 25 pretty much exclusively wears high-waisted mom jeans.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: That's the style. But I think we do need, like,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: because you like both of those characters so much, it's like,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: I have no problem with it. I'm like, obviously we
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: kind of want them to be together. And we know,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: you know, there's, you know, Peter's always going to have
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: his own thing to deal with. But, like, there's nobody
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: for her. There's nobody for him. This is, like, the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: way it needs to be.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Happy is, like, becoming that surrogate for whoever's... Again, before
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: we had Fury, he was already there. And even with Fury, like,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: coming and going, like, Happy's the one that keeps coming
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: in to take him to the next level of whatever
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: needs to happen on the mission or, I don't know,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: any of that stuff.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be strange if it gets to the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: point where he's, like, in the house. You know, not
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: a dad person. I mean, I guess kind of, though. Like,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: they're so close that he's kind of around... Because I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: don't know... I don't know if that adds or subtracts
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: from the Peter....
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think it changes the Tony Stark thing, though,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: because Happy feels the same way about him. He is
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: still so much almost like a father figure to Happy, too,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: that I think it's almost more of a brother's camaraderie
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: more so than he becomes the new dad.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Weird.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Their life's complicated. You gotta tell me, if you got
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Happy in your life, you just embrace it and you
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: go with it and be glad you got a Happy there.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think this would actually happen, but I do
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: kind of wonder... Because I don't think, I don't know,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think the way it's written and stuff that
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Happy could ever turn into a bad guy. But there
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: are versions of Doc Ock that's kind of a tweener
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: who has dated May. And they've had that situation where
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: like Peter is aware that Doc Ock is dating May
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 11: Interesting.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they would go that route to
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: have Happy somehow mind control or go bad or something
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: to do that. But that's the only time I can
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: think of like a father figure-ish type in Peter's life
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: is when Doc Ock was... trying to hit at may
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: but i don't i mean i think you.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Need to go back to that vulture thing.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 9: Like definitely they already planted that in the last teaser
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 9: introduce more people get that going he had that dynamic
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 9: i mean i don't know if they didn't want keaton
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 9: or keaton doesn't want to do it again but please
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 9: get keaton back yeah like that was.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Fantastic but he yeah i mean he already had that
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: like weird dad thing going on there it wasn't his
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: but like still it was that same vibe of like
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: i don't know there was something really cool in that
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: dynamic that i would they already Again, they tease it
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: in that first movie, so I'm hoping we make good
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: on it somewhere next movie maybe. But yeah, normally I
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: wouldn't want to revisit that same villain right away, but
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: he's so damn good.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: The fact that they made the vulture of all Spider-Man villains,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: you made the vulture cool.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Get the F out.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: That is one of the dorkiest comic designs there is.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: The dude literally looks like a vulture. And they made
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: him with that fluffy collar.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: And the creepy old man version of him in the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: comic that like they made cool.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Because isn't he bald and stuff too?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: He's old. He's like old and crotchety and bald.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: So they made Keaton kind of like a badass.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: The hyper tech version of him just looked rad.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: I dig it. I mean, I'd like to think that
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: they can successfully do that with, was it Scorpion and- uh,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: Rhino and all the other sinister, like get them all
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: looking modern and cool and have them. I don't know.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Don't know.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of villains for him to take. I
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: don't know if they're going to, if I almost wonder
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: if his villains are going to become the overarching villains.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: Like maybe Osborne will be the new Thanos.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: I was thinking that.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: This has to be bigger implications.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I feel like I was wondering as we got out
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: of this, like, where do we see it going now
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: that we've capped off the whole, you know, in theory, the,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: the Thanos, the gauntlet, all of that stuff. Like, okay, we,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming they're still going to want to go for
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: at least a bigger, maybe not as big an arc
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: as that one was, but at least a crossover thing
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: that's going to affect all of the movies kind of ideas.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: So it's really.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Weird because I looked at a list a couple of
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: days ago of like, and we'll get official announcements later
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: this month. Apparently San Diego comic-con is going to give
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: the official movie breakdown for the next phase. But just
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: from the rumors and what's believed is in production, there's
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: no connection. The Eternals, Black Widow, especially if you include
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: the Disney show, they're going to have Red Falcon and
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Winter Soldier kicking it. Loki, Wanda and Vision.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: I assume we're still getting another Black Panther. What's going
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: to connect?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Black Panther gets another. Guardians gets another. I don't think
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: another Ant-Man's official. But it's weird because what villain can tie,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: especially Eternals, what villain ties all these people?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: I assumed they were going to go... The only thing
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: that was big enough to be a grand thing is
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: going with the Captain Marvel thing. Because that's such a
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: huge galactic version, you could pull in a big galactic
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: villain to work in. Like Galactus. like galactus i guess.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: But again maybe that's why marvel captain marvel's like well
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: and that's what and again this could just be complete
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: coincidence but the uh and again this is actually one
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: of i feel like one of the plot holes when
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: peter says the whole thing to fury that tips him
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: off that mysterio's fake he says something about his surfboard
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: I was like, are you purposely teasing Silver Surfer? Not
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: that that's a tease at Silver Surfer, but to say
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: surfboard in a world where we know that the Fantastic
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Four is waiting on the docket. I was like, you're
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: putting Silver Surfer in our heads, aren't you?
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: And if you're putting Silver Surfer in the heads, you're
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: putting Galactus in the heads.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Did you hear that cast Keanu Reeves for an undisclosed part?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: Oh, shoot.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: If Keanu Reeves plays Silver Surfer or Adam Warlock, either one.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: You can have Adam Warlock because we know we need
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Doug Jones to come back. That's the one good thing
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: that came out of that movie.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: He would be rad AF as Silver Surfer.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: How good he was as Silver Surfer.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: And I will gladly take Keanu as Adam Warlock. I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: think he'd be fantastic in that part, actually. I'm pretty
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: into Eternals casting. This stuff's about to get crazy. Angelina
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Jolie's in there.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 10: They're just.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: What were the other names? It was like all these
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: like legit people. Salma Hayek is going to be one
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: of the Eternals. Like this whole slew of big actors
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: that are like, okay, let's do this.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: Okay, this is.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Making all the money now. So if I want a job,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: I need to get myself into Marvel somewhere. I feel
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: like it either.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like maybe Osborn would be at a low
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: key level villain. He'll have his toes in it, but
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: somehow he'll be affiliated with Galactus or something.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. But just.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: Tying in all these different people to any kind of cross,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: unless it is just secret invasion. It's just, oh my God,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: everyone come back to earth. All these people are actually Skrulls.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: They could definitely do.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: But then what does the phase finish on? Unless it's
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: something really big. Unless they just scrapped that whole formula.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe they don't even care now about a big bad.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: If we're pulling from older movies, again, to pull Doug
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: back to do Silver Surfer, since we did get a
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: nice little cameo from acknowledging the old run of Spider-Man movies,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: we got J.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: Jonah Jameson. Oh my gosh, that was... I feel like
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: they broke the rules, but I'm so okay with it.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: I was so happy.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: That's the one time when you're like, well, yeah. And
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: that he's like this modern Infowars kind of guy. It's
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: not the paper anymore.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: I completely dug that evolution for him. I was like,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: that's very cool. And the fact that we get... him
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: like oh my gosh jk.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: That's another one of those that was just you can't
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: get more perfect casting than that like it was the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: it was the right person then he's only gotten bigger
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: as like a celebrity now so it's like it's even
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: better to pull him in if you can so it's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: like yeah go ahead and work him into that next
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: movie as much as you want because people.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: Love older and more evil looking yeah perfect.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: And yet again i do like the angle of like
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: yeah newspapers are dead why why would we even Try
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: to start that again. So now it's like Peter going
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: to end up working for this weird website thing or whatever.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: I wonder if that connection is going to start taking
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: pictures or video or something for this thing. But come on.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: I almost don't feel like that can work in this.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: He just outright.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: That's true. They did change the game.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: Why would you go get a job for the guy
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: that hates you?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They'll figure it out. They changed the
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: game right there when it was like the entire run
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: of old Spidey was he's constantly hiding and like taking
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: pictures of himself and being, you know, he's doing the
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Clark Kent dual role thing where now that's gone. It's
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: off the table. So from this point on, we've got
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: to figure out what it What this new world is
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: where everybody knows who he is. I mean, we had that,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: I guess, with Captain America. Everybody knew who he was.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: He was a soldier. It's fine when you're a grown-ass
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: adult that can go over there and just do the thing.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: But it's like, you're still a kid. You still got
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: to finish school and be out in the public. And
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: everyone knows you're Spider-Man?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: I think that's a weird new term that I didn't
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: expect him to pull this early on. I mean, eventually,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: you figure maybe we get to that. But yeah, this
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: early in the run of Spidey. you know, it's the
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: second solo movie. And cause I thought it was interesting.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: Even the first movie when he immediately, well, by the
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: end of it already outed himself to Aunt May, which was,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: you know, all the overarching story of every comic book
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: and animated version was how much trouble he went to,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: to hide his identity from Aunt May over and over
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: and over again. So like now we've already outed him
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: to Aunt May and MJ. So it's like immediately like, well,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: all right, we'll just tell the world what the hell. So.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: That's a weird new dynamic we gotta mess with.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: I guess we'll find out. San Diego Comic Con. I
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: think it's just a couple weeks.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: By the time you're listening, you're probably like, yeah, you idiots,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: we already know what the line is. But as we
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: record this, we don't know, so it's not our fault.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Got any other random stuff we need to address? No.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: Can't really think of anything else at the moment.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: I'm surprised we pulled out that much.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: I was like, once we get into it, it opens
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of cans of worms. In my head,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: I can't stop thinking about it. When I first stepped
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: out of theater, I was just like, all right. Like
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: I said, it felt like Iron Man 2, Thor 2.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed both of those movies, but I didn't necessarily
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: try to rewatch them again. And I kind of felt
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: like that. I was like, I don't know if I'm ever.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: Because even in my head, I was like, what scenes,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: what parts of this do I really want to see again?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: Like I said, if the banter and stuff doesn't grab me,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: And the majority of it is the banter.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 6: There is no part of it that I really would
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: care to see again.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I am. It's not that it was
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: made bad. It's not that they did anything wrong. I'm
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: not even saying it's a bad movie. I don't think
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: that movie was made for me this time. It didn't
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: grab me specifically. I'm sure kids love it.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, again, it's like Spider-Man as a character just
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: keeps getting more and more. Like even so much so
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: that you know, the animated offshoot version was successful. Like
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: I did not expect that to do as well as
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: it did. And like people just, it's Spider-Man. Like they
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: were just on board with Spider-Man. So I mean, maybe
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: it is just pulling in a ton of new grownup
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: fans and kids continually love Spider-Man.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: So it's.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: And I guess also off the tails of Spider-Verse, I
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: guess we can't ignore that really like that, even though
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: it's not Peter.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: Kind of is, but kind of not. You know, maybe
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: in my head I separate that stuff in some kind
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: of way where everyone else is just still flying high
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: off Spider-Verse, goes right into this movie. Not that I
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: didn't like Spider-Verse, but it's just, I guess that rush
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: has already died down for me to where I didn't
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: connect it to, but maybe general public is more still
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: kind of hyped off what they just saw of Spider-Verse.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 9: Like, yeah.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: You saw Spider-Man be cool again in the game. You
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: saw him like, you know, so you got just enough.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, plus the game.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: That was huge, hugely successful. I bet that is a
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: big chunk. Of that $ 600 million opening weekend. That PS4
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: game killed it financially. It was a huge success. And
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: I want to mention it because in video games, usually
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: movie video games are garbage.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have always been. It's just infamous.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: It's just been this thing. Just no one can get
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: it right. Other than Batman Arkham, there's exceptions. But they're
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: almost their own universe now. Everyone's just like, here we
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: go with another Spider-Man game. And they knocked it out
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: the park with this one.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: I haven't started... playing it um we have it and
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 6: nick's been playing it like all the time the only
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: thing i can't handle is like it plays the goddamn
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: music like like every single time it's you start swinging
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: and i'm like i can't listen to this anymore i
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 6: can't listen to this goddamn arpeggio one more goddamn time
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 6: when we.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Know his real theme music i do like it got
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: worked in both times we get the ramones again I
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: was like, so is that kind of because it's his
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: hometown band? I was like, is that going to be
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: a continual tie-in for this version of Spider-Man?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: But they still haven't straight up played the theme, though, right?
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: They still haven't done the Ramones cover, I don't believe.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: No, they just keep playing other Ramones songs.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: They play other Ramones, but they won't play where the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Ramones covered the Spider-Man theme. That's so bizarre that they
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: dance around it.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: Am I crazy?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: Or did they play the National Lampoon's European Vacation music?
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: You know the whole Holiday Row song or whatever?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: I know that song really well.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: That melody in my crate.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Did I imagine I heard that at some point? I
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: don't remember. Because at some point I thought. But again,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: it's light enough. I can see them working that in.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: If I imagine I just heard it, but really did.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: Because they were in Europe and I was like, did
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: I just imagine that? Or was that really? Because I
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: don't think I was paying attention to music until the end.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: I was like, wait, was that the National Lampoon's European?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: Did Spider-Man knock over Stonehenge? No, I think I'm confusing them. So,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But yeah, I mean, I can see
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: them working that in, maybe. I don't remember it, though.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: But that's the other thing, and just moving forward, because
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: they sort of slam the door, but at the same time,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: you listen to Peter go into the theory about multiverses.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: So we've still got it like it does exist as
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: a concept now. I mean, it always has in the
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: comics and all these other incarnations, but he brings it
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: up specifically in the middle of his Spider-Man movie. So
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: they do kind of leave it cracked just enough to
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: be like, well, remember that thing we were talking about?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: That wasn't real, but this version over here is going
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: to be next movie or two movies out. They really
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: could start playing with that.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: And then Thanos comes back again.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, gosh.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: But did you hear one of the... There's.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Like five.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: Marvel shows coming up on Disney over the next year
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: or whatever when they start their streaming. One of them
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: is just based on what if comics. I don't know
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: if you remember what if comics.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: What if comics usually tackled big topics. If they do
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: a good job. This person got Thor's hammer.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: I remember one of my favorite ones was what if
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: Dark Phoenix won? And it's like she converts Wolverine, makes
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: him kind of like God. She basically somehow puts his
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: consciousness into the animantium skeleton to where he's like, He's
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: just invincible. As his flesh is getting torn off, it
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. And he was like her main soldier and
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: they destroy Earth and all this stuff. But I was like,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: doing a TV show that could be rad if the
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: money's there.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: To get behind it?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: That could be really cool. There was a time that
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: wouldn't work, but in the streaming world that people just
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: want series and they also don't care that they're little
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: segmented stories because Black Mirror has found a weird audience.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: If you put a Black Mirror spin on that kind
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: of thing and give it a good budget and bring
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: in real actors, that could really be awesome. But again,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: it depends what they do.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: Rumors are the first what if, and I don't know
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: who would notice, but I guess the example I keep
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: saying is that one of the ones I guess they
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: probably used the hyped idea is doing what if, I'm
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: going to forget her name. What's Captain America's girl?
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, Peggy?
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Peggy.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: What if Peggy took the super soldier serum instead of Rogers.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: And so it was like, one of them would be
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: about a female.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: If they can bring her back.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: Captain America. But I was like, where do you, do
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: you just show her becoming Captain America? Do you show
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: her like now in the future?
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: Do you do both?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: Like somebody's topic is like, well, how do you cover
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: that in an hour episode? I assume an hour, an
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: hour episode on a streaming, unless it's each one's a season.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I need to know more, but it
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: could be like those seasons of what if. If you
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: could get her to come back and do that role,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: again oh that was.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: Awesome i kind of want to keep it would be
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: was great awesome in general that whole i like that.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 6: Unless it would be almost like a sherlock like each
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: episode is like two hours long and you could do
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 6: it that way.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah just wrap up a mini movie idea more or
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: less and.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah i'm totally interested in that show, depending on how,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: how much they commit. If it ends up being like silly,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: what ifs, you know, but the, what if comics in,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: in the late eighties, early nineties, like there was some
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: really good ones that would just take some saga to
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: just end and be like, what if this is what happened?
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: You know? I mean, cause you can do no brainer stuff.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: Like what if so-and-so got the infinity gauntlet, you know,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: low key or, you.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Know, whatever you can do.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: So many, there's so many, not that I want to
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: see like a million different people with, you know, with
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: the infinity gauntlet, but just, Yeah, there's a lot of really,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: if you are dedicated to showing us like a really
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: involved version of that, but if it's just going to be,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of called in like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 3: what would happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I can read the comic.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, give me a real engaging version of this
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  Speaker 3: and I'll be in.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I went immediately towards something like Black Mirror.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, if you take it like dark, like
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  Speaker 2: if you really like dive into the what if part
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: of it, Because that is, like, the fact that we brought,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Black Mirror is so big that the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: new Twilight Zone is finding an audience. Like, people kind
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: of like those little weird one-off stories. So you could
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  Speaker 2: take that, put the Marvel spin on it, and throw
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: a good amount of money in. And I think, yeah,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: it could be great. And your what-if-got-the-hammer reminded me. Happy
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  Speaker 2: with the shield was funny.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: That was one of the times I was like, okay,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: that was funny. I was like, he's got to address it, right?
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: He just threw a shield. That was pretty damn funny.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So I'd say what's coming up next, but we don't
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  Speaker 2: really know. And by the time you listen, you already know.
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  Speaker 3: Black Widow is next. The streaming service starts in November,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know if any of the Marvel shows
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  Speaker 3: will be ready.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But I know that movie-wise... Black Widow is happening because
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: they're casting, they're filming and all that.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Do we know what time period this is?
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: It's supposed to be before she signed. This is going
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: to be her in Russia training to be an assassin.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: I forget the girl.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: She has like a rival. So Red Sparrow.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: Some blonde girl is like, you know, the one that's
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: just as good as her. But apparently like they're, I
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: don't know if they're filming in Russia, but they're filming
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: in a valet assassination school. In a green room that
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: looks just like Russia. And I assume Hawkeye will be
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: in there. Because Budapest.
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  Speaker 2: At least by the end.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: If Fury knew about Budapest too, right?
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: So maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: So Fury.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess there will be some S.H.I.E.L.D. and stuff
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: in there, but I guess it happens before Iron Man,
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  Speaker 3: I would think.
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  Speaker 2: It would happen.
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  Speaker 3: Before the first movie would be.
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  Speaker 2: Because she's in two, so it can't be.
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  Speaker 3: She's in one, right? No, she's in two, right? Yeah,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: she does show up in the second one.
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  Speaker 2: She kind of sneaks her way in, and we're like.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: She's the best part of two, though. Her fight in
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: the hallway then, it's just straight up Buffy. It's just
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Joss was like, Buffy the Vampire Slayer right here, right now.
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  Speaker 2: There's some really good stuff in two, but it's a
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: mixed bag. Again, it falls into that same category of.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad it happened because we needed the movie where
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Stark becomes a piece of shit.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: In the comics, that's a fundamental part. When he becomes
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: a raging alcoholic piece of shit, you need that for
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: his comeuppance. And that's what 2 is. That part works
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: for him, too. It's just him being a drunk mess.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: I forgot about him being plastered drunk in Iron Album.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: In the zoo, firing stuff out.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: He's just shooting lasers around. I was like, he really
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: was a mess in that second movie.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: And we start off with a good villain, and then
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: we waste it.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Whiplash looked great on screen.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Him walking out in the middle of the race is
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: a badass scene. It is great. And then we put
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: him in a cell and he's useless the whole rest
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: of the movie. We switch up to the other guy.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: The business guy so much that there's a point in
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: the second half of the movie where you realize he's
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: going to be in it so much. I'm like, I
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: don't care now, man. I don't like this dude.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: It's a couple of missteps, but there's some great stuff
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: I can say the same thing about Thor 2, too, though.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: I think there's great scenes in Thor 2. Movies as
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: a whole, there's something about parts other than Captain America.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: Captain America is like the greatest trilogy, comic-wise, maybe ever made,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: arguably against Batman movies and stuff. But yeah, everyone else's
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: part twos are kind of meh.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Not the early ones, because X2... comparatively was great well
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: back when spider-man 2 like yeah back when snuck in
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: was like wow it's pretty good because they focus so
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: much on the origin in the first couple and then
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: they finally get a chance.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 13: To do like a good story because that's when it's
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 13: wolverine that's when it's yeah they started after killing it
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 13: all so all right so we'll just go watch some
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 13: old movies now we'll dust off our x2s and our
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 13: spider-man 2s and we'll go watch those.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: All right The puppies have gone to sleep now, so
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: it's time to wrap up.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: Be quiet.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: Zuzu's napping. Otherwise, that about does it. We will return
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  Speaker 2: next time. Same geek feed.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks for listening.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: Back here at home, there's nothing to.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: I see I was wrong.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 8: And I'm not so strong.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: I should have known all along.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 10: Time would tell.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 8: A week.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 6: Without you.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 8: Thought I'd forget.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: Two weeks without you.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 8: Vacation had to get away Vacation had.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: To be spelled out hard.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 7: Vacation all I.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 8: Ever wanted Vacation had to get away Vacation.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: Meant to be spent alone Vacation all I ever wanted
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: Vacation had to get away Vacation meant to be spent
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: alone In this Pattinson Batman?
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: The rumor is either Penguin or Clayface.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've not had a good Clayface, you know.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: At least Penguin we've seen. I feel like this is
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: his mod cap stuff. Maybe that's why they got him.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: This isn't going to be a Clayface? Clayface would be cool.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, again, he was always badass in the animated series.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: But we've never seen... So I worry about anything in
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: that CG. But with him involved, I mean, shit, he
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. Or it could just be a
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: highly creepy penguin. Which, Danny DeVito. That's what I was
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: going to say. You can't get more, again, perfect casting.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I mean, dude just looks like fucking
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: Danny DeVito. Like, the poor bastard just looks like Danny DeVito.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: A little bad for Danny DeVito.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: Wasn't there a commercial not too long ago that basically
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: was like, Wasn't it the whole grumpy.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Kind of commercial?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: Well, no, the M & M' s, because they said he
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: looked like a terrible version, you know, and.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 13: Then Danny DeVito played, like, the ugly version of Sun.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, that's so mean. Like, you casted him
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: as ugly guy. Well, even then, that one is him, like,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: when they're making fun of him, he looks like an
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: M & M.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 9: Like, he's short and round and bald on top, and like.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: He was in one of those Eminem ones and they
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: were like, look, Eminem! Good sense of humor. Yeah, because
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: he was running around going, eat me! Come on, eat me!
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: And then people were like, get away from me. He's
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: just like making money off what a weirdo he is now.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: Not that he didn't kind of always do that.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: You don't have to say it to his face, though. Like, hey,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: ugly guy, come here. Ugly guy on set. He's like,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: as long as you write me a big-ass check, you
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: can call me.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 7: I go, I don't care.
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