Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Hillary Clinton And The Transcript From Her Epstein Related Talk With Congress (Part 7) (9/15/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're going to pick up
- 0:06Speaker 1: where we left off with the Hillary Clinton transcript from
- 0:09Speaker 1: her trip to Congress. Question, thank you Madam Secretary. I
- 0:14Speaker 1: know that a couple of the minority members have just
- 0:16Speaker 1: a couple questions as part of this hour as well.
- 0:19Speaker 1: And so I have a few and then I'll turn
- 0:21Speaker 1: it over to a couple in the minority members as well.
- 0:24Speaker 1: You can hear me okay from there? Answer, yes I can,
- 0:28Speaker 1: I can. but it would help if the minority members
- 0:30Speaker 1: would move across. Question, yeah, actually they're going to sit
- 0:35Speaker 1: right across. Clinton, okay, perfect, perfect, thank you. Question, great,
- 0:39Speaker 1: thank you. I just want to begin by asking you
- 0:41Speaker 1: a few questions, which I believe you've already clarified in
- 0:45Speaker 1: your opening statement. But just to be very clear on
- 0:47Speaker 1: the record one more time, as best as you can recall,
- 0:50Speaker 1: you've never met Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, that's true, that's correct. Question,
- 0:54Speaker 1: as best as you can recall, and you've said this,
- 0:57Speaker 1: You've never went to the island? Answer, never went to
- 1:00Speaker 1: the island. Question, you never flew with him on a plane? Answer,
- 1:04Speaker 1: never flew with him on a plane. Question, and you
- 1:06Speaker 1: were never aware of his horrific crimes prior to those
- 1:09Speaker 1: becoming public knowledge, is that correct? Answer, that is correct. Question, okay,
- 1:13Speaker 1: thank you. I also wanted to just know, one of
- 1:16Speaker 1: the questions that we've been receiving a lot has been
- 1:19Speaker 1: speculation amongst the public that Jeffrey Epstein was somehow affiliated
- 1:23Speaker 1: with foreign intelligence agencies or other intelligence services. And I
- 1:27Speaker 1: know that we have received numerous questions of that type. Now, obviously,
- 1:31Speaker 1: you served as Secretary of State. Thank you for your
- 1:34Speaker 1: service in your role as Secretary of State. Were you
- 1:37Speaker 1: ever made aware of Jeffrey Epstein having any type of
- 1:39Speaker 1: relationship with foreign intelligence agencies? Obviously, of course, of a
- 1:44Speaker 1: foreign country. Answer, I was not. And ranking member Garcia,
- 1:47Speaker 1: I'm aware of the speculation around this, and that comes
- 1:50Speaker 1: from the files being released and questions being raised. And
- 1:54Speaker 1: I do think that is a fruitful area for the
- 1:56Speaker 1: committee to investigate. Question, no, I appreciate that because I'll
- 2:00Speaker 1: say of the type of questions that we're receiving, the
- 2:03Speaker 1: kind of conversations around whether Jeffrey Epstein had ties to
- 2:06Speaker 1: foreign intelligence or was working with foreign governments continues to
- 2:09Speaker 1: come up. And so obviously, as Secretary of State, that
- 2:12Speaker 1: would be something I would imagine you may or may
- 2:15Speaker 1: not have information for. So I appreciate the response. Question,
- 2:20Speaker 1: Madam Secretary, just lastly, I also want to thank you
- 2:22Speaker 1: for your testimony. And broadly speaking, you've probably been following
- 2:26Speaker 1: just recently and this week, And we've seen, and there's
- 2:30Speaker 1: been reports that numerous files are missing from the group
- 2:32Speaker 1: of files that have been released. For the record, only
- 2:36Speaker 1: about approximately 50% of the total files have likely been released,
- 2:40Speaker 1: and other percentages have been withheld for whatever reason we're
- 2:44Speaker 1: not really sure of and don't really understand. It's also
- 2:47Speaker 1: been reported by numerous outlets this week that the FBI
- 2:51Speaker 1: has removed files that are supposed to be made available
- 2:53Speaker 1: to Congress that include serious allegations of alleged abuse by
- 2:57Speaker 1: President Trump, sexual abuse of a minor. Now, these are
- 3:01Speaker 1: allegations that we know have been corroborated in other ways,
- 3:05Speaker 1: and the media have reported on these, but these files
- 3:07Speaker 1: themselves have been removed. Now, we view this as a
- 3:10Speaker 1: very serious matter. I've personally looked for these files in
- 3:13Speaker 1: the archive, Manifest, that lists which files should be placed there.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Those files are no longer there, and we have been
- 3:20Speaker 1: calling on the DOJ and the Attorney General to release
- 3:23Speaker 1: all the files. I'm wondering if in your experience, obviously
- 3:28Speaker 1: in the U.S. Senate as Secretary of State, if you've
- 3:31Speaker 1: entered responses to the behavior of the DOJ and their
- 3:34Speaker 1: withholding of critical information and the apparent removal of files
- 3:38Speaker 1: that could suggest serious crimes by folks in the administration. Answer, Congressman,
- 3:44Speaker 1: I appreciate your raising this issue, and I appreciated the
- 3:47Speaker 1: statement that you put out when this became public knowledge,
- 3:50Speaker 1: thanks to investigative reporting, which revealed it. And I think
- 3:55Speaker 1: that this behavior by the Justice Department deserves the most
- 3:58Speaker 1: thorough investigation that Congress could carry out. As I understand
- 4:02Speaker 1: the sequence of events, the committee subpoenaed the Justice Department,
- 4:05Speaker 1: as well as the Epstein estate, as well as law
- 4:08Speaker 1: enforcement officials from prior administrations, as well as my husband
- 4:11Speaker 1: and me. the Justice Department refused to comply, which is
- 4:15Speaker 1: what led to the passage by Congress of the Transparency Act,
- 4:19Speaker 1: which was then signed into law. And I think from
- 4:22Speaker 1: the very beginning, the behavior of the Attorney General and
- 4:25Speaker 1: her staff has demonstrated either a gross incompetence, which is
- 4:29Speaker 1: bothersome because they're the keepers of information and should be
- 4:32Speaker 1: evaluated for law enforcement purposes, or a clear cover-up because
- 4:36Speaker 1: they're protecting the President and others. Either one of those
- 4:39Speaker 1: should be the focus of this committee to try to
- 4:41Speaker 1: get to the bottom. If they're incompetent and they're incapable
- 4:45Speaker 1: of complying with the law that Congress passed, we need
- 4:47Speaker 1: to know because they are falling down on the job.
- 4:52Speaker 1: They have an FBI director who's more interested in drinking
- 4:54Speaker 1: beer in a hockey dressing room after our team won
- 4:57Speaker 1: the Olympics rather than being responsive and complying with the
- 5:00Speaker 1: law as it's been promulgated. So I don't think it's
- 5:03Speaker 1: unfair to say that given the sequencing of events, starting
- 5:06Speaker 1: with what the way President Trump made the release of
- 5:09Speaker 1: the files a key element, of his 2024 campaign, the
- 5:12Speaker 1: promise that he and then his Attorney General made that
- 5:16Speaker 1: all files would be released, then a walking back of
- 5:19Speaker 1: that as they began to look at the files. And
- 5:22Speaker 1: ignoring of what they promised, including that they had a
- 5:25Speaker 1: client list on the desk of the Attorney General, reasonable
- 5:29Speaker 1: people would have to assume that they're engaged in a
- 5:31Speaker 1: massive cover-up, which is infuriating as an American, as a citizen.
- 5:35Speaker 1: All of us should be, regardless of party, wondering what
- 5:38Speaker 1: they're hiding. And that's why I said in my opening
- 5:40Speaker 1: statement the President of the United States is not above
- 5:43Speaker 1: the law and should be in a setting like this
- 5:46Speaker 1: answering questions under oath, as should others who are prominently
- 5:50Speaker 1: featured in the files, and especially the group that is
- 5:53Speaker 1: featured after 2008. Because prior to 2008, when Jeffrey Epstein
- 5:58Speaker 1: pled guilty to watered-down charges that Alex Acosta negotiated and
- 6:02Speaker 1: then was rewarded for it in the first Trump administration
- 6:05Speaker 1: with a cabinet position, there are so many unanswered questions.
- 6:09Speaker 1: And I looked at the transcript of Alex Acosta's testimony
- 6:12Speaker 1: that was taken before this committee, and I don't think
- 6:15Speaker 1: any Republican members asked him a question. So you have
- 6:18Speaker 1: to conclude that there's something rotten in the state of Denmark,
- 6:22Speaker 1: or clearly the Justice Department, starting in the White House
- 6:25Speaker 1: and at the top of the Attorney General. And this
- 6:29Speaker 1: latest example of the missing files about the allegations, and
- 6:33Speaker 1: they are absolutely nothing more than allegations, but the FBI
- 6:36Speaker 1: interviewed that witness four times. You don't interview a non-credible
- 6:39Speaker 1: witness four times. You don't put it into FBI reporting,
- 6:43Speaker 1: protecting this source, if you think there's nothing to it. So,
- 6:47Speaker 1: of course, I would like to know, like every other
- 6:49Speaker 1: American deserves to know, what's in those files? And who's
- 6:53Speaker 1: going to hold people accountable? Because the Justice Department seems
- 6:56Speaker 1: to be either unwilling or incapable of doing it. Question,
- 7:00Speaker 1: thank you, Madam Secretary. Let me also just add one thing.
- 7:04Speaker 1: You've probably also read reporting that Secretary Lutnick was pretty
- 7:07Speaker 1: open in an interview about not having spoken to Epstein
- 7:10Speaker 1: or interacted with him after 2005. And then we go
- 7:14Speaker 1: on to learn that Secretary Lutnick not only went to
- 7:17Speaker 1: the island, there were visits, they went into possible business together,
- 7:21Speaker 1: communicated with his wife, so there were numerous interactions that
- 7:25Speaker 1: happened after that interview. We believe that Secretary Lutnick should
- 7:29Speaker 1: be in front of this committee answering questions, especially when
- 7:32Speaker 1: he's choosing to essentially lie about his interactions with Mr. Epstein.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Would you agree Secretary Lutnick should come and testify? Answer.
- 7:39Speaker 1: I think everyone that the committee sees playing a prominent
- 7:42Speaker 1: role in the file should be deposed. That's your job.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Your job is to try and get to the truth
- 7:48Speaker 1: as best as you can determine it. And that should
- 7:50Speaker 1: be the guiding principle, it seems to me, as to
- 7:53Speaker 1: who you ask to come before you. Question. Thank you.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Next person asking questions, another congressman, unnamed. Question, hello, thank you, Secretary,
- 8:02Speaker 1: for being here today. I'm going to ask you a
- 8:04Speaker 1: few questions that might be a little redundant. Answer, that's okay. Question,
- 8:08Speaker 1: but just for the record. So I'm correct that you
- 8:11Speaker 1: did not know at any point before Jeffrey Epstein's crimes
- 8:14Speaker 1: became public that Epstein committed or facilitated sexual abuse of
- 8:18Speaker 1: minors and young women? Answer, that is correct. Question, and
- 8:22Speaker 1: prior to Epstein's crimes becoming public, were you ever warned
- 8:25Speaker 1: not to associate with him? Answer, not that I recall. Question,
- 8:29Speaker 1: and you did not know at any point before Maxwell's
- 8:31Speaker 1: crimes became public that she committed or facilitated sexual abuse
- 8:35Speaker 1: of minors or young women? Answer, that is correct. Question,
- 8:39Speaker 1: and did anyone ever raise concerns to you about Ms.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Maxwell or warn you not to associate with her at
- 8:45Speaker 1: any point? Answer, not that I recall. Question, thank you.
- 8:48Speaker 1: And you served as First Lady and U.S. Senator and
- 8:51Speaker 1: Secretary of State, and so you met a lot of
- 8:53Speaker 1: other heads of state foreign dignitaries. And so at any point,
- 8:57Speaker 1: did Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell's names come up? Answer,
- 9:00Speaker 1: not that I recall. Question, and you mentioned you did
- 9:03Speaker 1: a lot of work on human trafficking. Could you talk
- 9:05Speaker 1: a little bit more about that? And then also, I
- 9:07Speaker 1: would like to know if Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell's
- 9:10Speaker 1: names ever came up. Answer, no. I can tell you
- 9:13Speaker 1: that those names never came up. As I said prior
- 9:16Speaker 1: to their crimes becoming public, I don't think people knew.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Or if they did know, they were not sharing that.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Or if they did share it with the FBI or
- 9:23Speaker 1: the Justice Department, the investigations never went anywhere. So I
- 9:27Speaker 1: don't know that anybody would have ever raised those names.
- 9:30Speaker 1: And I don't know that anybody knew to even look
- 9:32Speaker 1: into it. As I said, the whole question of human trafficking,
- 9:36Speaker 1: sexual slavery, forced labor, domestic violence, for the longest time,
- 9:40Speaker 1: were not even considered crimes. And it took a lot
- 9:43Speaker 1: of effort on the part of many, many courageous people
- 9:46Speaker 1: around the world to raise the visibility of these crimes
- 9:49Speaker 1: and to actually charge criminal law in many countries. When
- 9:52Speaker 1: I spoke in 95 at the UN World Conference on
- 9:55Speaker 1: Women in Beijing, that was one of the issues everyone
- 9:58Speaker 1: was struggling with. Domestic violence. was considered cultural, not criminal.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Sexual slavery was just something that happened. Young women were
- 10:05Speaker 1: forced into prostitution. All of this certainly known and was
- 10:09Speaker 1: something that had gone on for centuries, thousands of years.
- 10:12Speaker 1: But there were finally enough outrage and organization, impetus, to
- 10:16Speaker 1: begin to try and change that. And that's what I
- 10:18Speaker 1: worked on. when I was First Lady, because I really
- 10:21Speaker 1: became aware as I traveled to Asia and Africa, even
- 10:24Speaker 1: Eastern Europe, particularly after the fall of the Soviet Union,
- 10:28Speaker 1: what a big criminal network was operating around the world
- 10:30Speaker 1: to traffic people. And obviously, we're here focusing on what
- 10:34Speaker 1: happened to girls and women with being sexually abused. And
- 10:37Speaker 1: it's also true that people were forced into labor and
- 10:39Speaker 1: mines and fishing boats. I mean, this was a phenomenon
- 10:43Speaker 1: that finally was getting attention, and we worked very hard
- 10:45Speaker 1: to raise visibility. I mentioned the law, that was finally
- 10:49Speaker 1: passed in our country in 2000, there was also something
- 10:52Speaker 1: called the Palermo Protocol, where nations came together to pledge
- 10:55Speaker 1: themselves to change laws to implement enforcement against trafficking. So
- 10:59Speaker 1: it's been a long struggle. But we've tried to focus
- 11:02Speaker 1: on preventing it, prosecuting it, and protecting the survivors. And
- 11:06Speaker 1: we've made progress. But obviously, we're here today talking about
- 11:10Speaker 1: crimes that are still happening, even in our own country.
- 11:13Speaker 1: All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here.
- 11:15Speaker 1: And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're
- 11:17Speaker 1: going to pick up where we left off. All the
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