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#289: Pearl (2022) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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Please, I'm a star. Welcome to What's Your Least
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Favorite Scary Movie? The podcast where we talk about
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the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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favorite and the least favorite scary movies.
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Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has its
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fanbase. Even if we don't always.
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Get it? My name is Travis.
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My name is Jesse. And welcome everybody, we are
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doing our Patreon voted episode this week on this show and you
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all let it be known that you want us to talk about Pearl.
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Pearl. So guess what?
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We're going to talk about Pearl. Yay.
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Two quick announcements. 1 is that as we were sitting down to
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record, I realized I mixed up the dates for Pearl and TV.
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Or not to be. I think anybody who's followed
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the show long enough should have recognized the format.
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Yeah, the format. And that leads me to my next
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announcement, which is that To be or Not to be came out this
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weekend. That's right.
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And it was covering a 2006 little saw RIP off called Are
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You Scared? Just go listen to us talk about
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it. It's seriously.
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It's a it's a show. It's OK.
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I mean, it's a show in the movie, yeah.
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It's a it's a fucking time. It's yeah.
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It's just there's a lot to talk about, so.
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And if you've seen it, you probably know exactly what we're
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talking about, right when we say that, yeah, it's a it's an
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experience. So yeah, it was a good one,
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though. I had fun with it.
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Right. Do we have a poll?
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We do OK. So last week we talked about
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smile and I went ahead and did who wins best smile?
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OK, so we had Carl, Laura, Doctor, Northcutt and Holly.
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Carl got zero. Nobody likes Carl's smile.
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I like Carl's smile. I feel bad for him because the
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only time we see him smile is when it's a smile.
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Damon making him smile. That's true.
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We. Don't see the poor boy actually
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smile for real. The rest of the time Laura was
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70%, Dang Dr. Northcott 10% and Holly 20%.
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Holly's, by the way, is the one where head.
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Hangs, yeah. Down which I thought that one
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would get a little bit more, but now 20% of the people.
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I. The one that always gets the
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biggest reaction on me is Doctor Northcott, so I'm.
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Going to say it here. That's that's kind of where I'm
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leaning too, because, you know, she's sitting there and she's
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like, shouldn't you answer that? Yeah.
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And we're like, uh oh, it's. The most sinister and unnerving
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one from that movie for me. You know, that's my vote.
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OK. All right, cool.
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Thanks, everybody for participating.
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I really appreciate that. All right, so let's talk about
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Pearl. So Pearl released September
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16th, 2022. We watched it on HBO Max.
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That's right. It's HBO Max again.
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Yeah, no longer Max. Just gave us just enough time to
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get used to calling it Max and they added the HBO back in.
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The rug right back put the rug back.
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They put the rug back. Under it, yeah, yeah, They got
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it back from Cintas. They sent back in the delivery
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track. So if you want to stream it, you
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have to watch it there at HBO Max, but you can always rent.
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It's from Amazon, Apple, or Fandango.
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At Home. Written by Ty West and Mia Goth,
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directed by Ty West, music by Tyler Bates and Tim Williams,
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and special effects makeup by Weta Workshop.
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All right. If I remember correctly, I think
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they were the people that did Krampus.
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What are they called? Weta Workshop.
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Weta. Let's see.
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It sounds familiar to me. They did Lord of the Rings
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apparently. Movies that.
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Makes sense cuz this is, yeah, a New Zealand movie.
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Avatar Heavenly Creatures, King Kong, Xena, Hercules.
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So I guess I misremembered them. Yeah, I guess it makes sense cuz
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they seem like they're fairly New Zealandy, which this was
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filmed in New Zealand, so that that makes sense.
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That tracks. Starring Mia Goth as Pearl,
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Tandy Wright as Ruth or Mom in this situation.
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Which fun fact about her, she was the intimacy coordinator on
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X. Oh, OK.
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And ended up getting the part for this movie, I guess because
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they needed fresh blood for, you know, some of the roles here.
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Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I was also reading she
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were in German for the movie or just like I guess what she had
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to do in German. Yeah, at least Matthew
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Sutherland as Father, David Cornswett as projectionist and
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Emma Jenkins Perno as Mitzi. Mitzi almost said.
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Misty. OK, time for our favorite game
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on the show. Budget or budget, I think those
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this is bug Ted just because like that's how Tai W kind of
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rolls. Yeah, also a 24.
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Yeah. And as is tradition with a 24,
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they do not give figures on budget.
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So I do not have an answer for this, unfortunately, but we can
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probably accurately guess this is a bug, Ted.
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Yeah. Opening box office was
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$3,000,000. Worldwide gross 9.8 million.
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Wow. IMDb score 7.
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OK. Yeah, pretty high.
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I have 3 movies from 2022 to compare it to.
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And 2022, We talked about it last week with Smile.
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It was banger year. It was and I have a theme again.
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The theme for this one is that woman ain't right.
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Way harsh tie. Well, speak to Tie about that
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one because Tie made the movie and made the character 1st movie
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Barbarian. This is the woman in the
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basement. Yeah, the monster woman is not
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right in that movie. I mean, Richard Brake, I would
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say is the monster in that movie.
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But yeah, I guess Mama he. Is a monster.
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Is a monster like she's a monster of his creation.
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I think what I say is still true.
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She ain't right. There's something wrong about
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that woman that release like a week before Pearl.
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September 9th, 2022. Budget of 4.5 million worldwide.
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Gross 45,000,000. Also a 7 out of 10 on IMDb.
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OK movie #2 Orphan first kill. OK.
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Yeah. And that one was surprisingly
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good. I was not prepared for how much
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I was going to like that. Yeah, that's when that like I
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was like, can they pull that off?
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And God, they actually pulled. It off, yeah.
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It was a surprise. They surprised us, yeah.
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That released August 19th, 2022 on an $8 million budget, 37
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million gross. I did not know that that hit
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theaters. I thought that that was a
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Paramount Plus exclusive. No, I think we just ended up
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missing it in theaters because there were just too many movies
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to see all of them. That's true.
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There was a lot of shit, yeah. And we ended up watching it on
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Paramount. OK, all of these movies here
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were released in the same time frame pretty much.
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So they were all pretty much in theaters together that had a 5.9
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on IMDb. That's rude.
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Yeah, it's not like that bad, but I think that it's it's a
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better than a 5 point. Nine.
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Yeah, I mean, it's not as arty as Pearl and Smile, but no, it
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delivered on the goods. Not as arty as art wasn't
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terrified either. Also that.
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Yeah, and the final movie. Goodnight Mommy.
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This is the American remake. We have not seen this version.
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I have no desire to see it cuz I didn't like the Dutch version.
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Was it Dutch or German? I can't remember but I agree
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with you, I didn't really care for it either.
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It's yeah, it's just one of those news.
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I know a lot of people love it and it just doesn't do it for
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me. That released September 16th.
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Don't have the budget or the gross but it's a 5.7 on IMDb.
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OK, no got 1 tagline for this in the extraordinary origin story
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with X. Extraordinary, OK.
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That's a creative, yeah. Tagline.
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Yeah, that ties it in, you know. That's what tie do.
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He ties. Tie's gonna tie.
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OK, OK, this has made me never wanna talk about another Tie
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West movie on the show. Too bad he's got plenty of
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other. Ones, man, it's just like you're
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in an orchard and all the fruit roll out of the ground.
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Yeah. Man, it's been so long, man.
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We talked about X early on the show.
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Yeah, it's been a whale. Yeah.
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And we haven't talked about any of his other movies in between
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then, I don't think. Yeah, well, cuz I think what
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finally got you to put Pearl up for the vote on Patreon is cuz
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you want to talk about Maxine, and I'm refusing to talk about
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Maxine until we talk about Pearl, so.
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I agree with you other than I do want to talk about Maxine.
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That's one that people surprisingly hate that I like a
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lot. Yeah.
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It's weird. Curious to talk about this one
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with you based on how you feel about it before.
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So yeah, we'll get there. OK, so let's do some fun facts
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first before we get to that part.
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So First off, West and Goth, they began writing this while
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filming X. They actually wrote it during
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their two week incubation period where they were having to, you
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know. Isolate.
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Yeah, quarantine. It started off as like a
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potential back story given to her for Pearl and X because she
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also played Pearl and X, So you know, it's kind of like that.
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But then they saw a potential for it to actually be its own
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story. So it just kind of went from
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there and it ended up becoming its own prequel.
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It began filming immediately after X wrapped.
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They used the same sets as X and they even used the cast from or
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not cast crew from the Avatar film that was filming over there
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too who were during like they were having a break during their
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filming. So they're like fuck it, why
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not? Which I guess explains why we
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get wet. A workshop as the people that
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did this shit here. So he he says that he wanted to
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film this trilogy as like their own genres of war.
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So the first one heavily inspired by Texas Chainsaw
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Massacre and Mario Bava films and Pearl.
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He wanted it to be a melodrama and meeting the visual style of
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like the Technicolor movies like Wizard of Oz and Mary Poppins.
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Oh the Wizard of Oz inspiration is so like heavily there
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throughout. Yeah, yeah, you can definitely
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see it. He said that he basically wanted
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this to become a demented Disney movie.
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I can see that. I could see it too, yeah.
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Or. If you or if you just want to go
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to the origins of a lot of Disney movies, just a Brothers
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Grimm very show. Usually they can't come from
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Mike Demintiteles. Yeah, yeah.
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They just kind of Disney 5 them up a little bit.
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And I mean, that's really all I got for like special fun facts
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here for this movie. Not a lot of, like deep things
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out there. It's just there's a neat little
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movie that they made while making another movie basically.
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Yeah, and I, I kind of like that, that they gave her like
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such a deep enough background that they're like, let's film
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some of this. We got the time we got.
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Like fuck, we got two weeks. Right.
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Yeah. Just like make a movie.
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We're already here. It's like COVID and you know,
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people were not doing shit during that time.
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So we used to do some shit. They were in New Zealand.
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They were in like the one safe place in the world.
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Yeah. I remember like that was the
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place where everybody could still do shit.
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That's because they had two week isolation periods.
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Yeah, they actually handled it properly, like right out the
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gate. Yeah.
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OK, so let's move on to good, bad, ugly and absurd.
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Then Jesse, you kick it off. Well, for a movie that was
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written in such a short time frame, I feel like it addressed
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a lot of things all at once because it addressed a lot of
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the isolation that came from a quarantine type situation, a
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pandemic situation. They're obviously drawing on
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their experiences with that. We had, you know, some of the
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challenges that Pearl's family was facing being from Germany in
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a time of the First World War. And they also dealt with like,
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you know, the thought that like, what if I'm meant to go on and
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do bigger, better things? I know I could do it if I just
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had the chance. And then feeling, am I trapped?
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Am I making the most out of what I have in life?
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Like, you know, I think that there were just a lot of things
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that this movie was addressing and it just makes you feel
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things without like being aggressively in your face other
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than pearls, like desperation for like.
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Yeah. Stardom.
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But I think that even comes from something even deeper down.
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It plays on a lot of things that like we can relate too easily.
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Yeah, yeah. For sure.
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And I just, I know you have opinions on this.
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I think Mia Goth's monologue there at the end is just
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fantastic. I've I've come around a little
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bit on this one, but I'll talk about it here in a little bit.
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Yeah, I think all of the performances were really good,
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really solid. And honestly, like I remembered
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this being a slower movie, but when we were watching it, it
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felt like things were happening quicker than I remembered them
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happening before. Yeah, this is our second watch.
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Right. Yeah, yeah.
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OK, yeah. So it's been a while since we
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saw. Them, yeah.
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So yeah, I just think overall it's really effective.
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OK, Yeah, For me, I I like the presentation of it and like the
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colorful classic look, like it very much does feel like a film
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from that era, even like, down to like the editing and like the
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music and everything like that. Yeah.
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Which I thought was a really nice touch.
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I thought. Yeah, the writing and acting of
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pearls, like psychotic behaviors were really, really interesting
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to watch. You know, just seeing her act
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that out. She's really good at playing
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that type of character. Yeah.
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I've seen her play mostly that type of character.
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I don't think I've seen her play a normal person once in my life.
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We need to watch the Suspiria remake cuz I know she's in that.
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It's probably weirdest fucking that too, honestly, but you're.
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Just being a little piss baby my.
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God, that's her most obnoxious. This movie is just, like a
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really, really good character study.
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Yeah, when it comes down to it, like, I like taking this
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character Pearl, and like, exploring how she became the way
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she was and ex because, like, I don't know, you kind of like,
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you can gather what happened to her and ex, you know, like, why
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she is the way she is. But like, to see it play out the
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way it did and like, take a deep dive on like, psychologically
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what her problems were and everything that she was having
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to deal with. And it kind of does make XA
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little bit more interesting as a result of that.
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Yeah. But yeah, it's like it's really
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compelling. And it weaves the themes of X
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really well into this too. Like, they.
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They are very cohesive. Yes.
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You know, Yeah. OK.
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So that's what you know, like. I mean, I don't know, I think we
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could have done a little less of the projectionist.
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I get why he's there. Like I get the give her hope
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about that. Yeah, give her hope.
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But. There's also like the travelling
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thing anyway, so you. Don't want to need that.
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Yeah like it's just, I feel like it kind of added on to it and I
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just. I don't.
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Cuz she already had the hope from like the audition.
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Yeah. So I'm saying yeah.
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And, you know, he was really there, like he was somebody that
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was taking advantage of her and it seemed like he was
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encouraging her, you know, whereas her mom was the exact
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opposite, like, you know, trying to keep her isolated because she
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recognizes something that's very wrong with Pearl.
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And she also doesn't believe in her dreams.
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So she's being kind of, you know, 2 separate ways she's
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being treated kind of the same. And I like, I get why that's
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important, but also like, I don't know, it's just we're
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going to watch her go through like a lot of psychologically
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anyway. I could have just died without
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him, like doing the full taking advantage.
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If you were like a more important role, I think it would
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have, yeah. I guess maybe he was there for
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her to like, have like that moment of weakness between her
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and like, Howard and something like, you know.
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But I feel like we could have gotten, like we could have had
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the same end result without him, you know?
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Yeah, you could have. Yeah.
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I mean, there's like plenty of other fucked up things she does
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that could probably get Howard going.
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Blah. OK, Yeah.
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What about you? OK, so this is I think the heart
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of why I didn't really enjoy this movie whenever I first
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watched it. And I kind of like had a chance
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to really think about it this time, watching it again.
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So you go from X, which is like, you know, a horror movie, like
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it's a fucking slasher and like goes hard into that.
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And it's a really good one at that.
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And then you immediately take it to this and this movie, I would
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hardly even call it a horror movie.
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This is a drama. It's it's not really horror.
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There are like some scary things happen.
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But you know what that happens in drama movies all the time,
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dramatic things, people dying, you know, wanting to like a
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bigger grander life, you know, people killing people.
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That's not like like inherently exclusive to horror.
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It's also a thing that happens in drama films.
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And this movie is, it's a drama, it's not a horror movie.
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There's nothing really like that plays on like suspense or shit
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like that the entire time. So that was a let down for me
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because you know, I loved X so much and I just, I wanted more
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of that and I just got the exact opposite of that and stuff.
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And as a result, I don't know, I feel like the movie doesn't
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really feel like a prequel. It just kind of feels like a
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companion piece, you know? Like, I don't think that there's
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like, enough substance for it to really be a prequel.
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Like, OK, she was the way she was.
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So like, I don't know, like she was the exact same character as
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her, like a Mia Goss character. And I can't remember her name.
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No. Maxine, of course.
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Yeah, She was. I mean, it was just Maxine, but
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just, like, take her back into the 1920s.
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OK. That's it.
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You know, Like, yeah. It was 1918.
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Whatever, whatever, you know, it's just wasn't necessary.
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Nah and it didn't really do the things that I really wanted it
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to be. So that was really the
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shortcomings for me with this one.
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OK. OK, so ugly.
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Yeah, I guess. I guess you know, some of what
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their farm is going through just because they are German in the
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time of the First World War and it's like hurting their
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livelihood and everything because nobody wants to buy from
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German farmers right now, even though they're they're living in
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Texas, you know? Yeah, and like, I don't know,
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just like make make Pearl like the the face of the farm.
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That way she's like the least German person there.
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She's so southern. And then also like, man, it's
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really hard watching them trying to care for her dad because
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there are a lot of times where they talk about him like he's
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not there. Yeah, he's he's.
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And it seems like he is aware of what's being said, he just can't
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really react to the things other than looking fucking terrified
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most of the time. I'm sorry I'm skipping into my
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absurd here, but it's relevant. He's the ultimate third will.
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He is just as there as like an observer for everything.
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Nobody acknowledges him. Everybody has like their own
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shit that happens in front of him and then he just doesn't
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participate. He can't.
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But like they don't even like acknowledge him.
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And I think it was meant to be that he, they kind of hinted at
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it, but I think he was meant to have contracted the flu, the
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Spanish flu that they were, you know, dealing with at that time.
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And that's why he is left the way he is.
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And that's why her mom is especially paranoid about
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masking up and isolating and everything.
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Germs, like bringing in outside objects.
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Yeah, yeah. The ugly thing for me is like,
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like, I get the hardship that they're going through, but like,
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the mother's like, suppressive raising that she does her Pearl.
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It's almost like abusive. Yes, whenever.
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I mean, like she said that she spent some of the money for
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candy. OK, you don't eat dinner now.
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Like, what the fuck? That's ridiculous.
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Like candy is not like going to be enough for anything, even if
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she was telling the truth in that moment.
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And also just like Pearl, this whole like path of becoming
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herself, like she like has a glimpse of like, OK, this is
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what I can be. So, like, all right, here's a.
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You know, we'll start off with like me killing some animals and
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innocent goose man over here, and then we're going to get like
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death cheating and then just like abandoning her dad and shit
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like that. And it's just like, yeah, it's,
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it's really, it's disturbing to see unfold.
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Yes, absolutely. OK, absurd.
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Absurd. Pearl for being a psychopath is
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a really bad liar. She's so terrible.
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So she's a bad liar. And it's just, it's actually
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kind of funny to watch. Like she says, oh, my dog is
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just making sounds downstairs and 30 seconds later she's
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introducing all of the animals and he's like, what's your dog's
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name? She says we're not a dog.
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Idiot dog. And she's like, oh, you said?
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And like she didn't even like, oh, right, sorry.
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We don't call him dog. We call him Puppy, you know.
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And they just said say. Something stupid like that.
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She's a bad liar. Yeah, she's really bad about him
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for me. I mean, I think like the most
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obvious one is the Scarecrow fucking scene.
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Yeah, like. AI could do without that as
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well, like. OK, it's just like, man, OK,
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weird. Whatever do you think, Miga?
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You know, if you want to fuck that scarecrow on screen, you do
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it, girl. You got it again.
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What do you rate it? I think I'd give it an A 8.
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OK, I thought you had rated this a lot higher.
21:44
I thought you really enjoyed this movie a lot more.
21:47
I feel like 8 is a decently high rating.
21:49
I feel like it's pretty good. No, I'm I'm just saying, I
21:51
thought you were like really high on this movie.
21:53
I didn't know. OK all.
21:54
Right, like I think it's a good movie.
21:56
This is more what I expected from Ty.
21:58
WX was a surprise for me that it moved as fast as it did.
22:02
Yeah, I mean, I like slow burns, you know?
22:05
And like, I did enjoy this movie, but like, yeah, I mean,
22:10
whenever I'm watching Ty W, I'm also expecting some horror.
22:13
OK. What do you rate it?
22:15
A5 I don't hate it. I like did more of this watch
22:19
honestly than I did the first watch but I knew what I was
22:22
getting this time instead of, you know, hoping for like X Part
22:25
2. I will say that I think that
22:27
this is probably my least favorite in the trilogy then.
22:32
That's not to say that it's a bad movie, just.
22:34
Yeah, yeah. No, I don't.
22:36
I don't think this is a bad movie.
22:37
I just don't think it's a good horror movie.
22:38
I think it's like a good drama. OK, really.
22:41
But I'm rating as like a horror movie here cuz that's what it is
22:45
kind of trying to be I think based off of what he said.
22:48
All right, so we've got a starting average of 6.5.
22:50
All right, let's get into it. I will say that I love that the
22:54
first opening shot is the same as the opening shot in X.
22:57
Oh my God, I love. That, that's such a nice touch.
22:59
Yeah. We see Pearl is dancing in her
23:02
room in her mom's old dress. Her mom interrupts, and she is
23:06
not cool with Pearl taking her dress.
23:08
She's like, that was my nice dress from when I was a girl in
23:10
Germany. We are farmers now.
23:13
No dresses. Yeah.
23:14
Go to the barn. Yeah, so Pearl is feeding the
23:17
animals, and she confides of them.
23:19
She says that she's special. I'm special.
23:23
There's going to be some day that you guys aren't going to
23:25
see me again. And then a goose walks in and
23:27
she's like, what's that Mister goose?
23:29
And then just fucking stabs it and feeds it to feed at the
23:32
crocodile. Why?
23:33
Why was she I? I guess I could get it.
23:36
She's just a psychopath. I there was no reason to it.
23:39
I just walked in there at the wrong time and she just decided
23:42
to kill it. It was just being a happy little
23:44
goose. It's like, hey man, look at me.
23:46
I'm like an amphibian bird. I.
23:48
Have a question? So is that the same crocodile?
23:52
Like do crocodiles have that lifespan to like go like nearly
23:55
100 years? No, it was in the 70's.
23:58
The ex was set in the 70s, right?
24:00
Yes, but that is a very good question.
24:03
We did see Theta laid eggs, so it could be one of Theta's
24:06
babies, but let's look it up the.
24:08
Junior. Crocodile lifespan, 25 to 70
24:13
years. So it could be, could be.
24:15
Yeah. OK.
24:16
We have no way of knowing. No.
24:18
I mean, I guess we could ask Ty West, but.
24:20
That that crocodile was pretty spry and X it was moving in a
24:24
pretty good quip. Well, she keeps it well fit,
24:27
she. Does all right so we see yeah
24:29
1918 you're correct the so her mom is forbidding dancing we're
24:35
setting a very. Selfish and selfish to dance.
24:39
And she's honestly pretty swept if it was.
24:42
Here. In this world.
24:44
She's going to ban dancing. So especially now that all the
24:47
farm hands are gone, the farm hands have all gone off to fight
24:50
the war. One of them is Pearl's husband,
24:52
Howard, who comes from a rich family, but he doesn't care
24:55
about being rich. He wants to be just a man of the
24:59
world, which is not what Pearl expected from him.
25:03
How dare he? Yeah.
25:05
He didn't know, like we could have gotten him out of the draft
25:07
and he's like, no, I want to do it.
25:08
Yeah. How?
25:09
Dare he? I'm going to do it just to spot
25:11
my dad. Yeah.
25:12
So they see in the newspaper both, like, mention of the
25:16
Spanish flu, and the Allies are now in France.
25:21
So Pearl's like, hey, maybe the war is going to end soon.
25:26
And then Ruth is just like, go get your dad for dinner.
25:30
So after dinner, she is she has cleaned her dad and she's going
25:35
to bathe in front of him. Yeah, I don't know if this is
25:39
just like a cultural thing. I mean it's strange to me, but
25:41
maybe German people in the 19 eighteens.
25:44
Era. Maybe I'm.
25:46
Cool with it, you know, I don't know.
25:47
I don't really know, but she reads the letter that she got
25:50
from Howard to her dad. I think if if it were bad, her
25:53
mom would have definitely been. Like.
25:55
Angry about it, but her mom walks in on the whole.
25:58
Thing and she's just like, I'm just trying not to waste the hot
26:00
water. Yeah, and she's.
26:02
Also talking to her dad about how she gets to go to town
26:04
tomorrow to get more medicine and she's going to go see the
26:06
dancers and the pictures when she goes to town, but we're not
26:09
going to tell mom. Right.
26:11
Yeah. So yeah, she heads into town,
26:15
she stops and gets the medicine, but then right across the
26:18
street, it's the movie theater. So she goes on in there.
26:21
She watches Palace with Follies and drinks some of her dad's
26:24
cough syrup. She's on a missing bed.
26:27
No. Are you scared?
26:27
I'm just. Going to go on and write a
26:30
straight to the DVD horror movie called Are You Scared?
26:32
Uh huh. Yep.
26:34
And she gets out of there and she starts to go, but then she
26:38
sees the alleyway over there and there's a man just over in the
26:42
alleyway and she's like. Oh, there was one thing.
26:45
I made a note of this in the movie.
26:47
Oh yeah, the dancers at one point are dancing to a song
26:50
called Wee Wee Marie when Pearl starts killing an ex.
26:54
Remember, she does that little dance in front of the Vans
26:57
headlights. Yeah.
26:58
Is that what it? Is it's a cover of Wee Wee
26:59
Marie? Yeah, it's interesting.
27:02
Yeah. Wow.
27:02
Good cat. So it's like a little nice
27:04
little pie in. I'm impressed you caught that.
27:06
Honestly, I would have never thought to look that hard into
27:08
it. Just having to catch it, yeah.
27:13
Just fucking good, man, what can I say?
27:16
So, yeah, in the only way. She strikes up the conversation
27:18
with the projectionists, and he gives her a film strip.
27:22
He's like, hey, by the way, you can come here anytime.
27:24
I'll live here. This is my house.
27:25
Yeah. He cuts his cell out of the real
27:28
and she's like, isn't that gonna mess up the picture?
27:29
And he goes. It's one frame.
27:31
It's true, it's not going to do that much damage to it.
27:34
Yeah, So she tucks it barely into her overall bib.
27:38
I guess, like poking out. This was.
27:39
She was just asking for trouble. And exactly what happens is that
27:42
she's driving home our old bicycle again.
27:45
Very. Dorothy coded.
27:46
Yeah. And the cell flies out.
27:49
She goes way too far into the cornfield to try and find it.
27:52
I would look, I would start on the road.
27:54
Yeah, she's just like, all right, Scarecrow.
27:58
Like, yeah, she's a little overcorrection here.
28:01
Yeah, and she's, I feel like she's not looking at the ground
28:03
enough. She's not.
28:04
She's just like, I don't know, she's not right in the head, OK?
28:08
That woman ain't right, like I said.
28:11
So she finds the scarecrow. I would be terrified of the
28:14
scarecrow. I thought scarecrow's from
28:15
supposed to be made out of burlap sacks.
28:18
Who carved this face? Dude, I was expecting it was
28:21
like this thing can come to life, like it's going to start
28:23
moving. Is it a person in my view?
28:25
I was like, is this an actual dead man?
28:27
Yeah, it was very well done. I if I was a crow, I wouldn't be
28:32
anywhere near that field, no. Fuck that scarecrow.
28:34
Yeah, that is a scarecrow. She's just like, you know, super
28:39
enamored by it, too. I guess it has the opposite
28:41
effect on her. And she climbs up to it.
28:44
Yeah, she's horny. She just had, like, this sweet
28:46
little projectionist man. Give her a film strip.
28:48
So yeah. She's picturing herself dancing.
28:50
She's. Picturing his face on it, yeah.
28:52
And then she screams that she's married.
28:55
Yeah, she snaps on it. Yeah.
28:56
She gets. She pins it to the ground and
28:58
fucks it. Yeah, so she gets home and her
29:02
mom is still grumpy. Her dad is still unresponsive
29:07
and she, you know, she takes her bath once again.
29:11
This is a fucked up thing here. Like when she's doing the bath
29:14
though, she like she's talking to her dad about the movie, but
29:16
then she like, wants to test if he can actually just like react
29:19
to anything. So she just like, puts her hand
29:21
on there and pinches him as hard as she can and just like looks
29:24
at his face to see what kind of reaction he gets.
29:26
That's fucking psychotic. Yeah, it's bad.
29:31
So at dinner, her mom wants her change.
29:33
She said it's $0.08. I know how to count Pearl.
29:36
And she goes, well, I got some candy for the ride back and she
29:39
goes, cool. So no dinner for you.
29:40
She goes please, I rode all that while on my bike and I'm hungry
29:42
and she goes, you can eat in the morning.
29:45
So Pearl goes up to her bed and she prays that God will let her
29:49
be the biggest star. So the next day ish, maybe it's
29:56
not the next day, maybe it's a few days later, whatever.
29:58
Either way, Mitzi visits with her mom.
30:00
Those are her in laws. They kind of have a relationship
30:03
to the family. Ruth is not going to take
30:06
handouts. Mitzi's family is finally
30:08
starting to recover some from the war.
30:10
They feel like they've been in isolation enough from the flu,
30:14
from the pandemic. So they're going to go out and
30:16
about because again, they're rich, so pandemics don't affect
30:19
them the same way. They're bringing people pigs.
30:21
Whole pigs. I like their.
30:24
I like this. In the background, we'll talk
30:26
about what Pearl and Mitzi are talking about in a second, but
30:28
in the background we hear Mitzi's mom just go.
30:30
It's a pig. Ruth didn't.
30:32
Hear. That it's great cuz we'll see
30:36
you later. Ruth will not bring in that pig.
30:38
She will not accept this charity, this handout, even
30:40
though they are actually tied at this point because of Howard.
30:44
Yeah, it gets gross too. Yeah.
30:46
And so Pearl and Mitzi are talking.
30:49
And, you know, Mitzi was just talking about how they could
30:51
have gotten Howard out of the draft and but that's that's her
30:54
brother for you. And then she says that there is
30:57
an auditioning happen at the church on Saturday for.
31:01
Yeah, for. It's for a travel and dance
31:03
troupe who's going to travel all around Texas.
31:04
She's like, I really kind of want to go audition, but I don't
31:07
think my mom will be into it. And Pearl's like, I want to,
31:09
too. So they decide sisters in law
31:11
need to stick together. They're going to go audition in
31:13
secret together. Yeah.
31:15
So we see Pearl, she goes upstairs and she notices her mom
31:21
and her dad are out there preoccupied, so she's gonna
31:23
sneak into the mom's room to get another dress out.
31:26
And it's not like she's got enough dresses that she won't
31:28
notice. Yeah, right.
31:30
I mean, I don't know, maybe she seems like she would be like
31:32
super like anal about that stuff, like.
31:34
Yeah. Does inventory every night.
31:36
It seems like if they were really as hard off as they are,
31:39
she could go sell her nice dresses for like.
31:42
And I'm not saying that you have to give up everything that you
31:44
love and cherish. It's just that Ruth has said
31:47
before that there's no time for foolishness and nonsense and
31:50
sentimentality. So why is she holding on to
31:52
those dresses her? Entire philosophy is entire
31:54
time. It's like it's not about what we
31:55
want, all right? Oh, you don't want that dress?
31:58
You want that dress. It's not about that anymore.
31:59
Ruth, sell that shit. Yeah.
32:01
And like, my thing is, if Ruth was a little bit more flexible,
32:03
I'd be like, she should get to hold on to something that's
32:05
meaningful and important to her, and we shouldn't have to sell
32:07
our lives away just to survive. But that's not how Ruth has been
32:10
talking to Pearl. No.
32:13
So she sneaks. One of her dresses is the short
32:16
version of this, and she also has a scarecrow's top hat.
32:18
She sneaks out wearing it and she goes to visit the
32:21
projectioness and she's just telling them all about this
32:25
audition that she wants to do. And he's like, you should do it.
32:29
You seem like you'd be really good at it.
32:30
Do you want to watch this porno with me?
32:33
This guy, he has like a. He's like, I got it in France.
32:37
Yeah, he knows what he's doing here.
32:38
Yeah. You could be a girl.
32:40
You could be in the movies like this one right here.
32:42
I'm about to show you. And then he, like, shows her
32:44
like a porno. These were like illegal in the
32:46
United States back there, but apparently they were legal in
32:48
Europe. So he hasn't been able to show
32:51
this to anybody. And I think it's really
32:52
interesting when you take this into account with the whole
32:55
trilogy. So he's sitting there saying
32:57
that he's going to get in on this market early.
32:59
Yeah, I was thinking about that. Too.
33:00
Yeah. And that ties very big into X,
33:03
how they're saying that this is going to be, you know, a good
33:06
way to make it big. Those make artistic pornography.
33:12
And then we cut over to Maxine, where she was like, I'm doing
33:15
this to get my foot in the acting door, and I want to do
33:17
actual, real news. It's kind of interesting seeing
33:19
that. Progression.
33:20
Yeah, yeah, throughout the time. So like how people reacted to
33:23
this this like this genre is interesting.
33:28
And she, she says, you know, she talks about feeling trapped
33:31
because she told him before that like, her dad is not able to
33:34
take care of himself. And so she feels like she has to
33:36
stay and help him. And her mom is very overbearing.
33:39
And she's like, I just wish sometimes because I feel like it
33:41
would be easier if they're dead. And he goes, what?
33:43
And she goes nothing. Red flag right away my.
33:47
Man, like, and she's like, all right, I'm going to go.
33:50
And when she gets home, she hears her mom crying.
33:53
Her mom's real stressed. Yeah, I think it would help her
33:56
mom if she acted a little bit more human every once in a while
33:58
with. Compassion.
34:00
You know, if you give Pearl some compassion, maybe she'll feel
34:02
inclined to do the same to you. But Pearl just sees her crash.
34:05
She's like, good. She's like, closes the door.
34:07
She feels too. Thank God.
34:10
So Pearl takes her dad outside to go see Theta, and she's just
34:14
kind of talking about like, yeah, you're just trapped in
34:16
there. I wonder if it'd be easier for
34:18
you to not just be trapped. And then Ruth, like, falls
34:21
around there and she's like, what the fuck are you doing?
34:23
She goes. I'm just getting him fresh air.
34:25
Yeah, right in front of the crocodile.
34:27
You know, like inches away from him.
34:30
So she lectures her about making the most of your situation.
34:35
She finds a nest of Theta's eggs, and she just takes one and
34:40
she's gonna go hide it in the loft.
34:42
And one of the cows looks at her very disapprovingly, and she's
34:45
like, you know what? You're right.
34:46
It's Charlie. It's Charlie.
34:48
Yeah, Charlie was her biggest supporter, and now Charlie is.
34:50
Charlie's like you've got that egg, and so Pearl goes up there
34:53
and does what you do, which is crush it while thinking of your
34:56
husband who's overseas fighting a war.
34:57
Good. This is gross seeing that.
35:02
So what dinner? Ruth reveals that she has found
35:05
the Playbill for Palace of Follies, and she tells Pearl
35:10
that she needs to isolate herself until they can be sure
35:13
that she's not I'll, because Ruth cannot risk getting sick.
35:17
And then Pearl is like, listen, there is an audition on Saturday
35:23
and I'm very bad at timing for asking for things.
35:26
I'm going to go to this audition.
35:28
If I don't make it, I will never do this again.
35:31
That's not the right attitude to having show business.
35:33
You're going to get far more rejections than you get
35:34
acceptances. Yeah, well, Pearl's not Steve.
35:37
Yeah. Mom, her mom is like harsh, but
35:41
also kind of like, I think this is the reality trick that Pearl
35:44
probably needed here. She's like.
35:45
We was finally breaking down. Yeah, she's like, look, Pearl,
35:47
like you're not going to do it. You're not going to like they're
35:50
going to notice. They're going to see who you
35:52
are. And she's like, I've been there.
35:54
I've seen the things that you thought you were one, and you
35:56
will scare people. You scare me.
35:59
And she's clearly talking about like the killings and shit like
36:01
that and. They start fighting and like
36:04
they're standing up, like actually going at it.
36:06
But Ruth's dress gets caught on the fire, and she.
36:10
Must have been covered in like flammable Wick liquid or
36:13
something because she just like goes all up in flames her.
36:16
Pearl puts the water, puts the fire out with boiling.
36:18
Water, I know. Oh my God, What?
36:21
A bitch. That felt almost intentional.
36:26
Like I wish they had shown like a pitcher of water right next to
36:29
the vine. Just like her, like going back
36:31
and forth, like which one do I grab?
36:32
Boiling water. Yeah, and then she just dumps
36:37
her down in the root cellar. Just fucking throws her down
36:40
there. Yeah.
36:40
And then like the dad is watching the entire time with,
36:43
like, this horrified. Yeah, he's like.
36:45
Just like a tear just going down his cheek.
36:48
God I feel so bad for this man. Oh my God.
36:51
It's awful. So she runs off.
36:53
Pearl runs off to go see the projectionist, and it's implied
36:57
that they do sex. Oh yeah, Because she wakes in
37:00
his bed and her underclothes and she's like, oh God, I gotta go
37:05
the auditions today. He's like, it's not even 6 yet.
37:07
And she's like, I gotta go make sure my auditions perfect.
37:09
He's like, well, at least let me drive you home.
37:11
He's a bohemian, but he's got a car.
37:14
This guy, I don't like this guy. Yeah, I know.
37:16
He just seems oily, you know? So he's giving her a ride home,
37:20
and as her drive in, she sees a soldier walking on his way back.
37:24
So is that Howard? Is that?
37:26
I don't know. There's a sign that maybe Howard
37:27
might be coming home soon. Yeah, it's just I don't think
37:30
that's Howard. I know she, I think she was like
37:32
thinking that though, like maybe that's.
37:33
Howard like they're going to start having soldiers coming
37:36
home soon. So they get there and she's
37:39
like, wait out here for a second and she goes in and she cleans
37:44
up around the house a little. Bit so we have some next to the
37:46
fucking pig that's swarmed. Yeah, lies.
37:48
And maggots. So he's just like staring at it.
37:50
So gross. Oh my God, that's so gross.
37:53
And then when she's got so straightened up a little bit,
37:55
she introduces him to her dad. And then she's like show him
37:59
around. She gets so much of his room and
38:01
her room and starts trying to make out with him.
38:03
He's like, there's a something sound and she's like, hold on.
38:07
So she runs downstairs, looks at her mom, says, I hope you
38:11
remember this, and then shoves her back down the stairs again.
38:14
And he comes downstairs and he sees, like, the corn on the
38:16
ground. And he's like, ah.
38:18
And she goes, it's my dog. He's getting into stuff.
38:20
So I had to put him in the roots.
38:21
I like, come on, I'm going to go introduce you to all of our farm
38:24
animals. And she says she names them
38:27
after all of, like, the Hollywood starlets.
38:30
And he goes, what's your dog's name?
38:31
She's. We don't have a dog.
38:32
Yeah. What fuck you talking?
38:34
About yeah, I'm like, dog what? Yeah, and this is when he's,
38:37
like, getting bad vibes, Like, all right, well, I'm a bohemian,
38:40
so I got to hit the road. And she's like, what did I do?
38:43
What's wrong? Why don't you like me?
38:46
And he's like, I just got to go and you've got your audition and
38:51
she just follows after him with pitchfork and just book and
38:54
stabs him and. Eventually he's like, you're
38:56
scaring me. What do you mean?
38:57
It's kind of scary. He should.
38:58
Have gone a lot faster. He really should.
39:00
He should have, yeah. So.
39:02
And we see, I guess this is the beginning of like, oh, so we can
39:05
store cars in the lake or the pond.
39:08
We're just going to do that now. This is a good way to get rid of
39:10
vehicles. Cleans up her dad and dresses
39:13
him in a nice suit. He is still crying, which is the
39:18
right call because she is in fact putting him in his funerary
39:21
suit. Yep, because she she smothers
39:24
him. She pushes the projectionist in
39:26
his car into the pond and then she rides off on her bike with
39:30
her suitcases enough for her to take to hit the road
39:33
immediately. I.
39:34
Like that, she's like, they're going to take me in and I'm just
39:36
going to be with them for the rest of my life.
39:38
Like when she's. Ready.
39:39
It's like now, like, no, we'll do this like in a couple of
39:42
days. All right, So she's at the
39:44
audition. And she's chatting with Mitzi as
39:47
they're waiting, and Mitzi's a little bit put off by her energy
39:50
because it's a little bit too intense, because she's selfish,
39:52
too. She's like, I gotta make this
39:54
matter what. And Mitzi's like, yeah, I'd
39:55
really like to make it, too. And Pearl's like I have to be
39:57
the one. Like, well, if it's not me, then
39:59
Natalie, it's you. And she's like, no, just me.
40:01
Yeah, damn. And she's so nervous that she
40:04
makes Pearl switch with her. So Pearl goes in and she
40:06
auditions first and. Like the number that they did
40:09
with this, like how it like turns into like a whole play
40:12
basically with like the backdrop of like the World War going on.
40:15
But it does make you wonder what the dance looked like without
40:17
those extras there, cuz a lot of it would just be like her
40:20
twirling around in a large circle.
40:22
Again, going back to It's Always Sunny, very much probably.
40:24
Like, yeah. Yeah.
40:29
And yeah, they pass. They're not really looking for
40:32
her type. They're looking for more blonde,
40:35
you know. Someone younger blonder.
40:39
Got that? She's like, it's like you're
40:41
missing The X Factor. And she's like, please, I'm a
40:45
star. She is inconsolable outside.
40:49
Yeah, guy, like people in the next neighborhood are here in
40:51
that show. She must have been crying for
40:54
like hours. She's got a headache.
40:58
She's dehydrated. It's that ugly SOB.
41:02
Yeah. When when you're like a kid and
41:04
your mom told you you can't have that thing, but you cried
41:06
really, really fucking hard because you wanted it.
41:09
She's just, it's terrible. So Mitzi takes her home and
41:12
she's trying to cheer her up. She's like, hey, I'm do you want
41:15
some milk? I'm going to get you some milk.
41:17
She's a psychopath. She's like, oh, that'd be
41:19
perfect. Thank you.
41:20
Yes. Mitzi has clocked their rotted
41:22
pig outside. She's like, well, that's kind of
41:24
rude, you know? And she she's just trying to
41:28
talk to her. She was like, hey, what's up?
41:31
And Pearl was like, I just feel like something's missing.
41:33
And she goes like what? And she goes, I haven't ever
41:35
talked to anybody about it, not even Howard.
41:37
She goes, well, you should be able to Howard anything.
41:39
He's your husband. She's like, I just don't even
41:41
know if I could. And she goes, OK, we'll pretend
41:42
I'm Howard. And then this is where we get
41:44
this beautiful like 10 minute monologue from me and Goth.
41:47
Yeah, I wasn't a big fan the first time I watched it.
41:50
I I was a little bit more compelled this time.
41:51
I checked out the first time. Like it wasn't because I was
41:54
just like, fuck this movie. It's just like, I don't know, it
41:56
was like, no, it just kind of bored me.
41:59
Like, she's just talking about, like, you know, she always felt
42:02
like she was destined for something more than that life on
42:04
the farm. And she pinned all of her hopes
42:07
and dreams on that. And there's also something else
42:10
weird with her where she just doesn't ever seem to feel bad
42:13
about doing bad things, so she keeps doing them.
42:15
She's mad at Howard because like, you know, Howard was like,
42:18
you know. Supposed to be her way out.
42:20
Yeah, but then you like, trapped her there by going off to the
42:23
war and stuff. Yeah.
42:25
And then and she's just basically revealed everything
42:28
that we've talked about in this movie so far.
42:29
And Missy's like. And then some she's like also
42:32
talking about like, you know, it first started like I was killing
42:34
things. It felt good.
42:35
Felt like powerful, you know, And then, you know, eventually
42:39
like just killing other people just kind of felt natural after
42:42
a certain point. Real psychopath shit.
42:44
So, Pearl, thanks here for listening.
42:46
She's like, thank you for that. You're not going to tell
42:48
anybody, are you? And she's like, no, no, I do
42:51
need to go. There she goes.
42:52
Well, congratulations. And Missy's like she goes.
42:58
I'm getting the part because Pearl has decided because Mitzi
43:01
is younger and blonder and that obviously means she got the
43:03
part. I'm curious what you think.
43:07
I'm of the camp that Mitzi didn't actually get the part,
43:10
she just agreed with Pearl because she was trying to get
43:12
out of there. No, that's what I thought too.
43:14
OK. Cuz like she insisted she's
43:15
like, I didn't get it. And then eventually you can kind
43:17
of see she's like, OK, yeah, thanks.
43:20
Sure. Yeah, so Mitzi tries to leave
43:26
and Pearl follows very quickly with an axe.
43:30
Yeah, I like that shot where she just slowly follows her with the
43:34
axe and yeah, just chases her and axes her down.
43:38
Yeah. And then we have this, like,
43:41
montage because she goes down to the basement and kind of crawls
43:44
in her mom's arms. Her mom's dead at this point,
43:47
but she's picturing her mom singing to her a German lullaby.
43:50
And as she's hearing this, she's like cleaning up the house,
43:53
chopping up Mitzi's body and feeding her to Theta.
43:56
She's like grooming the corpses and putting them at the dinner
43:59
table. Setting the rodded pig at the
44:00
dinner table. It's all really disgusting.
44:04
She doesn't wash her hands at all.
44:06
She's covered in blood. She fully embraces.
44:08
She's a disgusting person at this point.
44:10
And then she stands there for two weeks.
44:13
I don't know how long it is, I'm just assuming it.
44:14
Is some time. Yeah, because the food has
44:17
gotten moldier by the time Howard walks in.
44:19
And she's just like, hi. Yeah, and he doesn't really say
44:24
anything. He's just like Pearl.
44:26
Yeah. And it's just I like that ending
44:31
where the credits is just her with the smile the entire time.
44:35
It gets pretty unsettling and it like, slowly, like, becomes
44:38
tears and shit. It makes you wonder, like, was
44:40
that entire time, like Howard just like, berating her?
44:43
You know. Like I don't know but.
44:46
Obviously like because we know from X that he stayed with her.
44:51
I imagine no matter what though, Howard seemed like a normal
44:53
person. It took some time for him to
44:56
process that shit, but I feel like he was like, probably too
45:00
good of a guy. He's like, I can't leave her.
45:02
Yeah. She needs help, you know?
45:04
I don't know at that point, man, I think you got the you got the
45:07
pass. You can get out of that
45:08
relationship. Yeah.
45:10
You. Should get out of that.
45:11
Relationship you're going to be like yeah no I think you should
45:13
leave for your own safety that. House has to smell terrible.
45:16
Yeah, it's got to be so bad. Rotted pork.
45:20
Dude, it's in festival with like all kinds of insects and shit.
45:22
Now that that house is like, yeah, you can't live there.
45:25
Anymore so upsetting. Yeah, OK.
45:29
All right, so that's that. That's how the movie goes.
45:33
I'm gonna keep it at 5:00. I'm gonna keep mine at an 8.
45:37
OK? What do you want differently
45:38
from it? I want more horror, OK?
45:41
I want more, you know, like I I'm fine with like the dramatic
45:45
flair to it. I don't know.
45:46
I just felt like it was, it just wasn't a horror movie really.
45:51
It's a drama. I like dramas.
45:53
Dramas aren't really my favorite, though, OK, I just
45:57
don't like being like, all right, here's the next one.
46:00
This is the next movie in this horror trail, which it's like if
46:03
you take like, I don't know, it just doesn't work as a sequel or
46:07
a prequel, you know what I mean? It just totally it's completely
46:10
different. OK.
46:12
Yeah, as as a standalone I think I would maybe like it better and
46:15
that's like a non horror movie. All right.
46:20
Well, what do you really think, Ty?
46:21
You thought of it. Talia.
46:24
She was pretty cuddly throughout.
46:25
Yeah, I think she didn't really care for her treatment towards
46:29
the animals it. Was absolutely.
46:31
Not I think she's afraid of that type of person.
46:35
I think. I think Talia would give it like
46:41
a six. 6 OK. Yeah.
46:55
I was like thinking I don't really have a good rating for it
46:57
cuz yeah Talia was pretty cuddly with us, but I think it's cuz
47:00
she was, like you said, afraid for the animals.
47:02
We'll give a little. Yeah.
47:04
Yeah. We'll be in between the two of
47:05
us, Sam. OK, OK.
47:10
Who'd you away to? Oh.
47:13
Man, I know there's some things that can be relatable about
47:17
Pearl, so that's fine. You can relate to Pearl if you
47:19
want to. Yeah, I think I do kind of
47:22
relate to that whole like that fear of like, what if I'm too
47:27
old to chase my dreams? I relate to that too.
47:30
Honestly, I would say the same thing, yeah.
47:32
Like, I mean, I think that's something that everybody kind of
47:34
like. Yeah.
47:36
Everybody wrestles with that at some point in their life.
47:38
And, you know, like you do think about it, you know, like, well,
47:42
shit like, like, am I doing the things that I need to be doing?
47:48
You know, I think everybody always like hits that crossroads
47:50
in their wife. Where?
47:52
They're like, am I going down the right path right now?
47:55
Like, is this like what I need to be doing?
47:57
Is this Should I be doing something like?
47:59
Do I need to take better advantage of my circumstances?
48:02
Yeah. And yeah, that's a super
48:05
relatable part of this movie, and that is one that I really
48:09
enjoy. Yeah, it was.
48:11
It was interesting. I think that's kind of part of
48:14
the like deeper horror with this, where it's like, it's such
48:19
a relatable feeling, but you're putting it on this like,
48:22
undeniable villain. Yeah.
48:24
So it's it's weird we didn't talk about, but who is Zoe's
48:28
ultimate warrior? Oh yeah, Zoe's ultimate warrior.
48:33
I think Pearl is too brutal even for Zoe.
48:36
Yeah. Yeah.
48:38
I think she she would vibe with Theta.
48:41
Yeah, Theta for sure, just like kind of work around and like if
48:44
you show up like food, food. Theta sounds like Theta.
48:49
Yeah, yeah, that's perfect. OK, what is your dream sequel?
48:59
I want something in between Pearl and X where we see Howard
49:05
full and get on board with all this.
49:07
Yeah, I think that could be interesting.
49:09
Like how does he embrace that shit?
49:12
Like you could, it could be like a through the decades.
49:15
So like, yeah, you could tackle like, you know, the 30's, the
49:19
40's, the 50s. Well and remember he goes to
49:22
World War 2. Also he fights in both wars she
49:25
mentions. That's true.
49:26
He does, yeah. So what then?
49:28
You have, like, that brief period, like, all right, what
49:30
does Pearl do during that time? Does she try and like, chase her
49:34
dreams again with Howard not around?
49:36
You know, like what happens. Yeah, there would be like a
49:38
flapper era. Did she go on and try to be like
49:40
a flapper? Yeah, Yeah.
49:43
It could be. That would be interesting.
49:45
Yeah, that would be interesting. WWDD What?
49:49
Would Vin Diesel do? Yeah.
49:52
Is it Vin Diesel or Dom? Dom.
49:54
OK. What would Dom do?
49:56
Yeah, well, OK. So like.
50:00
He would listen if he was the projectionist, he'd just drive
50:03
off faster. You just got to say the the OK
50:07
Well first, there are two things are true about this movie.
50:10
First off, the vehicle situation is completely different than
50:15
what he is used to in the 2. Thousands.
50:17
Are we having modern time Dom Toretto like transported back in
50:21
time and he's got to figure out how to make this jalopy like
50:23
speed? Yes, of course time travel is
50:26
probably going to happen in Fast and the Furious X.
50:29
That's true. Part 2, yeah.
50:30
But also at the same time he's back there racing that old shit
50:33
and he would repeat his credo from part 8.
50:38
It's not what's under the hood, it's who's behind the wheel.
50:40
Exactly. So he could probably get that
50:42
shit going that like he would probably see Pearl and he would
50:48
like be like the helper at the farm there for a little bit.
50:52
He at some point moves the jalopy so fast that it skips
50:55
across the top of the lake and the crocodile is like chasing
50:58
behind. Him.
50:58
Peter Pan right there. Yeah.
51:01
I mean, ultimately it becomes a time traveling machine, just
51:04
like Back to the Future. Yes.
51:06
And he also acts as the inspiration for Back to the
51:09
Future. Perfect.
51:11
Yeah, No notes. OK, dude.
51:16
And finally, a new tagline. OK, no star shines like a Pearl.
51:24
That's that's kind of reach right there.
51:28
Follow your dreams or else. Excel or expire?
51:38
If you want to be a star, you must reach for the stars who
51:44
gave. You must receive.
51:47
If you want to be a star, you got reach for the stars.
51:51
Exceed expectations just XX. But she didn't do either of
51:58
those it. Depends on what you expected.
52:05
How she got her start, I don't. Like that?
52:10
Yeah, she got her star. Like tiny tea.
52:15
Tea. Yeah, OK.
52:19
Sure, we'll see that. Cool.
52:20
All right. Do we have reviews?
52:22
We do all righty, so I'm gonna start off with our IMDb review.
52:29
OK, it is. I was more on the positive side,
52:36
you know 5 but still I I felt better about this.
52:38
So I got like AI know you like this movie, so I got a lower
52:40
rated one. OK, it's titled The X Factor.
52:45
Absolutely loved. Oh it's a four out to him.
52:47
Absolutely. I absolutely loved X for its
52:50
shock factor and for being disturbing on so many levels.
52:53
The only thing disturbing about Pearl was how unnecessary the
52:56
sequel prequel was. It is a self indulgent money
52:59
grab from director Ty West and writers Ty West and Mia Goth.
53:03
When I read about the upcoming film, I sat there pondering what
53:06
was the point? Pearl was a character in X.
53:09
She was the old lady with issues who got what she deserved in the
53:12
end. Why would I want to see a film
53:13
about her life? Why was it even important to
53:16
tell her story? Either way, curiosity killed the
53:18
cat, as the saying goes, and I decided to watch Pearl.
53:22
Pearl is a very slow paced film. For most part it is a family
53:26
drama. The first bit of horror, apart
53:28
from psychological horror arrived around the halfway mark.
53:31
But it was short lived and the film returned to its dramatic
53:34
roots. There's even a speech from Pearl
53:36
which will last 11 minutes. Yawn already?
53:40
This is a slow burn horror with emphasis on slow.
53:43
Apart from that, the film was just completely unnecessary.
53:46
I mean, just why? On a positive note, the film's
53:49
best attributes are the brilliant colours and Mia Goth's
53:52
performance. The film's colours are radiant
53:54
and bright and it looks amazing on screen.
53:56
Mia Goth once again delivered a fantastic performance.
54:00
This is also a very good character study.
54:01
Just like X, the cinematography and those wide shots are
54:05
beautiful. Also note how cleverly the X is
54:07
prominent throughout the film. Despite these positive elements
54:11
though, Pearl ultimately felt like a complete waste of a time.
54:15
X was so much better. Had Pearl been a stand alone
54:17
film and not part of a franchise, I might have viewed
54:20
it much better. But that's the problem with
54:22
franchises, isn't it? All right, I got to say I didn't
54:26
steal any of my points from this person here.
54:28
I had that stuff like written out before I found that review.
54:31
But I I mean, that was a lot of the things that I was saying.
54:34
Like, it's not a horror film. It doesn't really work.
54:36
It's like a prequel sequel. I mean it, it works, but like I
54:40
felt like it was more of a companion piece than anything,
54:42
you know? And I guess I think of it more
54:45
as more as a companion piece than I do is an actual prequel.
54:48
Because obviously it wasn't going to be like, how did we get
54:53
to the events of X if we're jumping back 60 years?
54:57
Yeah. So I guess for me, I didn't have
55:00
those same issues, but the difference in expectations going
55:05
into a movie. Well, I think it's fair to
55:07
expect something when it's billed as that.
55:10
It just says an origin story. It's saying what Pearl's origin
55:15
is. It's a trilogy though, Like it's
55:17
acknowledged as a trilogy. So like, I don't know, it's not
55:20
like a this is an optional piece, like it's part of the
55:24
trilogy. OK, I mean, think about like the
55:27
Cornetto trilogy. Those aren't really.
55:29
That's an unofficial trilogy. This is an official trilogy.
55:31
I don't know anyway. Yeah, I get it.
55:37
I get why people love this movie.
55:38
And there are horrifying things in it.
55:40
You know, it's just, I agree with that whole lot.
55:43
But it's not about what I think. Let's see what other people
55:46
think. We got listener reviews.
55:48
Yeah. All right.
55:49
Over on Instagram, Constant Reader, Kentucky, I believe this
55:52
is Jason. It is, says Pearl, manages to
55:55
capture the look and feel of a classic film far more than most
55:58
have tried. You know, that's true.
56:00
It actually does feel like a movie of that era, which is one
56:04
of its strengths for me. Like that a lot about this.
56:06
Yeah. Jurassic Soul says great
56:09
character study and really gives a lot of context for X.
56:12
Mia Goth shines valid. Crash out valid.
56:18
Can I say some valid? I feel really old, but I don't
56:22
fully understand when to use the phrase crash out.
56:25
It's when you like, have a fucking meltdown.
56:28
I kind of understand that, but I also feel like whenever I see
56:31
people say like, oh, this person's crashing out, I'm like,
56:33
I don't feel like I'm seeing it. Crashing out.
56:35
I think it's also used very like freely.
56:39
It doesn't like always. I don't know.
56:41
I don't I'm this is my old person moment.
56:45
I just don't get it. Tucker says Mia Goth got robbed
56:50
of an Oscar and this movie gave us David Corn Sweat's Superman.
56:54
So 10 on 10 Corn Sweat's Superman.
56:58
Who's is that? The guy that's playing Superman
57:00
now? I understand this is going to be
57:03
a really hot take out here on the Internet, but I just don't
57:05
give a shit about Superman movies, so I don't know.
57:09
I can't tell you if that's he's playing Superman right now.
57:12
I don't know. Yeah, I haven't really paid
57:15
attention to that. I don't know.
57:16
A lot of people like it. I like James Cone.
57:18
I don't know, maybe I'll watch it one day.
57:20
Final review is Michael Lee Howard, who says I really loved
57:25
Pearl. I'd prepare myself to not like
57:27
it since I had joined X so much. That being said, I love the
57:30
genre shift. Mia got killed it.
57:33
I have watched it a couple of Times Now and I love it more on
57:36
each watch. That final scene lives in my
57:38
mind. Rent free. 8 1/2 out of 10.
57:41
Yeah, I think that's it was a solid way to like close the
57:44
movie. Yeah, it does have like a very
57:46
strong impact for sure. I I like that a lot, too.
57:49
I like that you at least enjoyed the genre.
57:52
Yeah, the genre shift there. Yeah, it works for some people.
57:57
OK, well, all right. I guess that does it for Pearl
58:00
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