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- 00;00;00;02 - 00;00;15;18 Speaker 1 For people that are like the people that are like, don't like to watch anything. Oh, right. Or or whatever. Like. Yeah, but like you're saying I will. I didn't think of it as like, this is a terrifying movie now that has a movie for babies. But like, I. 00;00;15;21 - 00;00;19;03 Speaker 2 Know I would not show it to your children. I mean, it earns its R-rating. 00;00;19;09 - 00;00;50;03 Speaker 1 It does. But that I feel like the feel of the movie. It's the kind of thing, like there's a lot of movies that I really like that I go see, but I'm like, I can't really recommend them to like a lot of people, I would say I'd be like, okay, this for everybody, but this one, I do think that, like, a wide audience will enjoy it. 00;00;50;05 - 00;01;09;29 Speaker 3 Hello and welcome to film curious. I'm Ashley, I'm joined by Nicole today. We have been on a really long break. Probably by the time this comes out it'll be two months. So thank you to all those who have found us and subscribed and probably just waiting on a new episode. Or probably not waiting because I don't know why I would wait on us. 00;01;10;01 - 00;01;29;02 Speaker 3 Don't do that. That's why you should subscribe, because then you would know to when we put up a new episode, because I don't know when we're going to put up a new episode, I never know. Now, a lot of things have gotten in the way the past couple of months, but today we're going to be talking about Zach Krieger's Resident Evil. 00;01;29;05 - 00;01;51;14 Speaker 3 Before we get to that, we'll be talking about Prime Time and The Social Reckoning. Really briefly. I was able to see the Social Reckoning a couple weeks ago, and Nicole and I have both seen Prime Time. I know three weeks ago at this point, but I just want to mention those two at the front of the episode, because I don't really want to get to in depth on on either of them. 00;01;51;14 - 00;02;25;29 Speaker 3 I think that they were fairly good movies. Nothing to like, literally right home about. So I enjoyed a lot of aspects of prime time, especially with like lighting and directorial choices. So I will say that the director, Lance Oppenheim, did. I thought a good job with that. This was good. The performances were good. Like obviously Robert Pattinson, Merritt Weaver, who I know, Nicole and I are both big fans of merit. 00;02;26;02 - 00;02;45;21 Speaker 3 We've been following her since, you know, Nurse Jackie, I love her, I adore her performances, so it's always a treat when she's in anything. They were phenomenal. But I do want to bring up the actor who played Dan Plum, who was the basically being like the. 00;02;45;24 - 00;02;47;15 Speaker 1 Decoy, I guess. Decoy. 00;02;47;20 - 00;03;13;28 Speaker 3 There you go. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, that's what they, they call them. And so I do want to say that Skyler Zondo did a phenomenal job with this. I was really impressed. I mean I've seen him in most recently. He was in Superman and he was fun in that. But I was actually pretty blown away because like coming off of Superman, he was just this fun, almost comedic relief character in Superman. 00;03;13;28 - 00;03;37;04 Speaker 3 And I think he probably should be getting. I would say if you're going to give somebody a nomination for like supporting role, I would say he even, like takes a pretty main role in this. He is the the opposite actor. I mean, I know they promote it that it's patents and and Weaver. But I'd say that he, he's almost the main character in prime time. 00;03;37;06 - 00;04;03;03 Speaker 1 Yeah. Usually only seen him in like comedic roles, but he always has like a very nice, like very natural like way to his acting. But I was like really blown away in this movie. And I agree that I think that he probably in terms of even if screen time, but also just like presence in the movie, like who you would say these like the two main characters are and the arc of the movie. 00;04;03;05 - 00;04;23;08 Speaker 1 And I definitely do think that he would deserve a nomination. He was really even everybody to and just like the supporting cast, I don't remember his name right now. I had recently seen him in a play, actually. He played like the head of the the group that like, would write the messages and stuff. 00;04;23;09 - 00;04;26;26 Speaker 3 Oh, like the mayor is what you're talking. 00;04;26;26 - 00;04;27;23 Speaker 1 About. 00;04;27;26 - 00;04;33;18 Speaker 3 A nerdy guy? Yeah. Who is doing the on the computer? Yeah. Matthew Mayor. 00;04;33;20 - 00;05;01;00 Speaker 1 I think yeah, he was great to, And of course, Merritt Weaver and her gum. I saw someone saying that, like, her gum should just get, like, a supporting actor nominee that was going to work in the movie. But I also will say that I think that I enjoyed it maybe more than you did, because there was. I really like when I was done with it and I walked out of the theater, I really, really liked it. 00;05;01;03 - 00;05;22;20 Speaker 1 I think also just because of the way that they decided to present the information, you know, I've seen some people saying that they enjoyed it, but they were like, okay, but like, this is something that I already knew about. It's not necessarily like anything new, you know, that I'm getting from it. But for me, I think that, like, that's not what I wanted from that movie going into it. 00;05;22;21 - 00;05;46;10 Speaker 1 You know, I'm familiar with Chris Hanson. I'm familiar with the ending of the show and a real life incident that occurred. But seeing it laid out like that, I really appreciated the way that Lance Oppenheim presented all this stuff to us. And I never felt like either way, I was being led to be like, this is how you should feel about this. 00;05;46;12 - 00;05;48;03 Speaker 3 You know, I will say that. 00;05;48;07 - 00;06;07;05 Speaker 1 Yeah. Also, just like a lot of the promotion stuff, everything leading up to the movie, a lot of chat and stuff, and then Chris Hanson taking out before the movies and like a lot of stuff going on, a lot of talk before it. So then I didn't know I was like, it was like big anticipation. So I was glad that one had. 00;06;07;06 - 00;06;33;13 Speaker 1 Actually, when I watch it, I'm like, oh, okay. Like you could tell that this was just someone who was trying to make a really great movie. I felt like, and that he was very interested in this guy and this man, because he was inspired to do the movie because somebody sent him a cameo from Hanson congratulating on, like, a nomination for a documentary he had done, because this is like his first non documentary film that he's done. 00;06;33;15 - 00;06;35;22 Speaker 3 Okay. And I know that's impressive. 00;06;35;24 - 00;06;55;13 Speaker 1 Yeah. And I've seen the cameo from Chris Hanson and it's just like the way he speaks me, he's odd and said he saw this cameo. He'd be like congratulations on your nomination for Spirit World. And he was just like, this guy is this is so weird and interesting. Like, what kind of guy is this? Who is this guy? 00;06;55;16 - 00;07;31;19 Speaker 1 And then I also feel like so much conversation was spent on like, oh, is this accurate or not? And Chris Hanson being like, this is not trying the show properly. But I'm like, I don't think that anybody could really watch the movie. And I would be like, oh no, this is supposed to be a. Straight yeah. I don't, you know, like just some of the choices, some of the things that patents and does in this role, which are so great and like so randomly hilarious and weird, he does such an amazing job, but I just feel like the feel of the movie too, like some of the shots, the way that we are given, like 00;07;31;20 - 00;07;50;14 Speaker 1 the kind of like artistry of the moment, it's never really not never. But I'm saying a lot of times it's not presented to you, as in, like I'm watching a movie where they would be like, this is based on a true story. You know, it feels like something that is just inspired by something that happened in our culture. 00;07;50;16 - 00;08;17;23 Speaker 1 That was a huge thing and said a lot about how we were at the time and how maybe we still are in terms of punishment and bloodlust and reality TV and, you know, all that good stuff. And I feel like the Chris Hanson character that we follow in the movie, I never got the impression that Lance was interested in being like, I'm making a movie about Christensen, and I want you to walk away with an opinion of Chris Hanson. 00;08;17;23 - 00;08;51;19 Speaker 1 I'm like, I right? So I appreciated that. And also, again, like you said, like a lot of the shots were very beautiful. And I think the way that he wove in, I don't even know what I would call it. Like not a speculative element, but just the way that I think. Chris Hanson, the viewpoint in the movie, the way that he, the character of Christensen was viewing what he was doing and like his role in this whole thing, the way that they decided to portray that, it was really it said a lot to me. 00;08;51;20 - 00;09;16;03 Speaker 1 Like it told me like, oh, okay, this is actually how this person feels about it. It's of this level. It's like, this is what he thinks is actually going on. I don't really know how to explain it. I just think that sometimes even just visually, what was happening on screen was signaling to me, like, this guy thinks that he is, you know, serving at justice, saving the world via the monsters, that kind of idea. 00;09;16;03 - 00;09;28;15 Speaker 1 So I thought that was really interesting, that it was this big thing of like, I'm fighting monsters. Like I am doing, like the work. I'm the protector, right? Yeah. I really liked it. 00;09;28;17 - 00;09;54;02 Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, I can't say that I didn't enjoy it or that I thought it was bad at all. The speculative part of it. Yeah, I actually think that if that was weaved in more throughout the film, I think it would have worked for me better, or I would have liked the movie more, because when it did start kind of going off the rails and getting almost abstract at certain points or yeah, I guess you're right. 00;09;54;02 - 00;10;31;02 Speaker 3 I think that is a term to use like speculative. And there's odd elements coming into play. I think that that might have worked a little bit better for what he was trying to do with the Chris Hansen character. Because I think the rest of it is almost like a documentary on the decoys. I don't know if like, this, like, the big takeaway was like when you play the victim, you're not just playing the victim, you are the victim. 00;10;31;05 - 00;11;12;25 Speaker 3 Right? Like, even though you're not that fake child that they made up in the messaging, you still are being traumatized by the experience of being in that role and still, you know, kind of being sexually assaulted in certain like like his the Decoys first experience. Right. Yeah. Or he wasn't expecting the man to turn around or and pull out his penis and like, you know, like was not anticipating that and so was already kind of an assault to him in a way, because it wasn't something that he was expecting. 00;11;12;26 - 00;11;24;11 Speaker 3 You know, it's not this isn't acting in the way that, you know, it's going to happen. Like, this wasn't a well directed scene. They kind of just were like, let's throw these. 00;11;24;11 - 00;11;25;29 Speaker 2 Decoys in and see what happens. 00;11;26;00 - 00;11;54;00 Speaker 3 And maybe it's safe. Maybe it's not. But we're trying to get the best reality TV almost. And I guess that was another point of like, what was prime time or To Catch a Predator really just for entertainment. And we have we have actually haven't done anything to help victims of sexual assault and pedophilia and all that. Like we haven't. 00;11;54;02 - 00;12;06;06 Speaker 3 That's they're not really helping that. Right. Like we're jacking up entertainment. So it was interesting. Like I do think that the concepts that Oppenheim getting his last name right, it's not Oppenheimer. 00;12;06;07 - 00;12;07;09 Speaker 1 I know you want to. 00;12;07;09 - 00;12;09;12 Speaker 2 Say that. 00;12;09;14 - 00;12;39;00 Speaker 3 Is playing at I could see that. So I don't know, maybe, maybe the film would have worked even better for me if it did choose Elaine. You know, like, are we going to just go full into the damn plum character and follow him and his experience? Or are we going to, you know, make this a weird speculative thing with whatever Hanson's going through. 00;12;39;02 - 00;12;57;09 Speaker 3 You know, like, I don't know, you know, maybe if we I think it did work totally fine weaving it together. But I do think that, like, if you broke up the film, the intro and the middle and the end are all totally different things, in a way. Would you agree with that or. 00;12;57;11 - 00;13;22;16 Speaker 1 No, I would, I mean, especially thinking about how the opening of the movie would compare to the third act. Yeah, that they feel like not completely different movies, but I can see what you're saying about maybe especially as it starts ramping up, that some of those like some of those elements, if it just kind of went for that the entire movie, it would have worked for you a little bit better or would have stuck with you maybe a little bit more. 00;13;22;19 - 00;13;45;24 Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. But I mean, it's always so tricky. So even talking about Prime Time and now mentioning I'll talk about The Social Reckoning a little bit, it's so interesting to try to, to write like Prime Time was based off of a New York Times article about To Catch a Predator or Chris Hansen. 00;13;45;26 - 00;13;46;11 Speaker 1 Oh yeah. 00;13;46;14 - 00;14;16;19 Speaker 3 It said at the end of the film that it was based on article from that time period, I think. So that's interesting to try to basically base an entire film off of the information that you got in an article and that very specific moment in time, which that show is very short lived, which is interesting because, you know, I remember watching it after dinner or something like that, or, you know, like it was on the TV as a kid. 00;14;16;19 - 00;14;48;08 Speaker 3 And I could have sworn it went many, many years, but it didn't. But it's interesting to have to capture a news article of it. And like The Social Reckoning is kind of the same. You're it captures, it's capturing from 2020. I think it's 2020 or 2021 all the way to 2024. It's like kind of encapsulating this piece of time that that happened with The Whistleblower and the Wall Street Journal articles about Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg. 00;14;48;13 - 00;15;15;13 Speaker 3 And so it's like really interesting. I give a lot of credit to those trying to do a fictionalized adaptation of just a journalistic article. Like, that's not an easy feat to do, even though like, the information is there to make it interesting. So I will give, like Lance Oppenheim, that in that regard. He made it interesting, visually interesting, thematically interesting. 00;15;15;16 - 00;15;39;29 Speaker 3 And I will say that, like Aaron Sorkin with The Social Reckoning, it was pretty straightforward, right? Like, and I think it was to its detriment. Also, it's just a weird time for it to come out because it's like, not that many years have passed since that moment at Facebook where the articles came out about their algorithm and pushing extremism and all that. 00;15;39;29 - 00;16;05;20 Speaker 3 So like, it just might not be a good, good timing because it's so timely, you know, like some things are too fresh in the mind that like, they don't necessarily work. But I totally get Sorkin's instinct to want to write about it because it is like I remember following reading some of those articles, following that, those, those stories and and being like, whoa, what the fuck? 00;16;05;22 - 00;16;26;02 Speaker 3 And still every time I think about it, I'm like, whoa, what the fuck? And but meat is still out there doing meta things. You know, like suck, suck. So, you know, doing, doing a shit. All the social media platforms are still on their shit. So I guess that's also you don't get a win. There's not really a win. 00;16;26;05 - 00;16;55;07 Speaker 3 So. But I will give kudos. It is a very difficult thing to do to adapt nonfiction journalism to a fictionalized, especially if it's a moment in time, like a Venn. You're not covering like a whole long trajectory of a story, of a character, of a person, you know? I know it was like one of the most difficult things in one of my screenwriting classes. 00;16;55;10 - 00;17;19;10 Speaker 3 There was an assignment to to do that, to do like choose a, an article and adapt it into a short screenplay. It is so hard to pick an article. It's hard to pick a topic. It's hard to I think it was probably the one of the worst things I've ever written. So like, I do have to give them their flowers. 00;17;19;10 - 00;17;45;26 Speaker 3 And when you tackle that kind of thing and you actually manage to make a pretty decent movie because like, as much as, like the Social reckoning is pretty average in terms of like that of movie, it's still like a well paced, interesting, entertaining film. I think to go to talk about the performances. I know everybody's out there talking about Jeremy Strong. 00;17;45;27 - 00;18;11;10 Speaker 3 Am I getting a strong name right? Please be. I almost got Jeremy Irons. And then there's Jeremy Alan White, who's in the same movie. So yeah, there's a lot there's a lot out there. Yes, I think God, yes. Jeremy Strong, who does play Mark Zuckerberg. And then you have Jeremy Alan White, who plays the journalist. I know there's a lot of talk about how great their performances are and they're decent. 00;18;11;16 - 00;18;39;12 Speaker 3 I think it's I mean, I will give Jeremy strong credit, but it is very difficult, I think, to capture Mark Zuckerberg. Like I think I when I texted you about it, Nicole, you had asked about his, her, his performance of of Mark Zuckerberg and I, I said, there's more. There's way more light in Jeremy's drawings eyes than there is in Mark Zuckerberg's. 00;18;39;14 - 00;19;05;05 Speaker 3 So like and maybe that's like a purposeful. Oh, we were trying to humanize him a bit. You know, Sorkin wasn't trying to be totally biased and make him out to be this villain. But I don't know, like, so his performance was good, but it's not. I don't think you can totally capture that type of person, just like a really hard person to replicate. 00;19;05;07 - 00;19;26;10 Speaker 3 And then Jeremy Alan White was good. He's usually good. He's, you know, it's his it's his typical good performance. Like he's one of those that's like, oh he's going to give a strong performance. But I don't know if I'm ever blown away by the performance except for like, you know that one episode of The Bear. Sorry, my dog's going crazy. 00;19;26;11 - 00;19;55;09 Speaker 3 That one episode of The Bear, you know, that everybody references. And I'm like, yeah, that was a great performance. Yeah. So nothing to take away from him either. I mean, Betty Gilpin, who we love, she did she did Betty Gilpin things. She was great. One me, Masako was in it. She was great. Loved her in it. So there's a lot of great supporting roles to even Billy Magnussen played like the PR guy of Facebook, Teddy. 00;19;55;10 - 00;20;14;27 Speaker 3 And he's so funny. He's just like, I feel like he's now like the the dumb bro. They put him in to like me kind of comic relief. And he's done like a few times now. I would actually like to see him take on a different role, because it feels kind of like a typecast at this point with Billy Magnussen. 00;20;14;29 - 00;20;40;26 Speaker 3 But like, they're all really great performances and great roles for people to take on. But I will say that I, I don't think there's enough talk about what Mikey Madison is doing with the character of Frances. She plays as the whistleblower, and she basically is the main character they try to be. They try to almost like how in prime time you're like trying to say Robert Pattinson and Merritt Weaver and, 00;20;40;28 - 00;20;42;02 Speaker 4 You know. 00;20;42;04 - 00;21;16;10 Speaker 3 Skyler Gonzales, right? They like, you know, like you think that like, oh, those are the big performances, right? You know, you hear those two and then, oh, there's this kind of adolescent field performance that you weren't expecting, but but the Dan Plum character is basically the main character. And they kind of I feel the same way about the social reckoning is that we are very much in Frances's point of view. 00;21;16;12 - 00;21;39;24 Speaker 3 We they try to do the Jeremy Allen White as a journalist Jeff thing, but we don't really get like, I think that's almost it to about why it's not as good as it could be. The social reckoning is we're not getting a lot about the characters that we're being presented with. So there's no we're not really getting a lot of background on Jeff the Journalist. 00;21;39;25 - 00;22;06;13 Speaker 3 All we know is he doesn't do check tech journalism. That's about like the biggest thing we know about him, I feel. Meanwhile, Frances, the whistleblower who Mikey Madison plays, we know so much about her. We know her mannerisms, her little is intensities, her her health status. So we get all these really character development, character telling things about Frances. 00;22;06;15 - 00;22;34;15 Speaker 3 And I think Mikey Madison does a phenomenal job in all these little micro expressions and mannerisms and how she holds herself as a character, especially coming off of it. Nora, this is a completely different character. I am fairly confident that this woman is going to be able to tackle anything in her career. So like I think for me the takeaway was social reckoning was like, okay, Mikey Madison, I'm impressed. 00;22;34;16 - 00;23;08;26 Speaker 3 Like, congratulations. Like, I know she won the Oscar for Nora and like, she deserved it. She's a great job. And Nora, I love Honora, but it was always like, you know, is that just that first role? Was it how great the screenplay was? Was it how good the film was? You know, I think I can say that we're going to get good things from her, and so I'm excited to see what she does next, because I don't think The Social Reckoning was great, and I think she did great, but I think she did great things with the material that she was handed. 00;23;08;27 - 00;23;16;13 Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah. I mean, the thing that I'm taking away from is that I still haven't watched an aura. 00;23;16;14 - 00;23;17;12 Speaker 3 You should watch a Nora. 00;23;17;13 - 00;23;19;04 Speaker 1 I know, but I was. 00;23;19;06 - 00;23;25;26 Speaker 3 I wish you could come over here and watch, because I have the criterion Blu ray, and I really like it. 00;23;25;27 - 00;23;33;00 Speaker 1 Even when I was watching, when I saw Resident Evil, I was like, I wish I'd do this with Ashley at the theater. We would have. 00;23;33;02 - 00;23;33;16 Speaker 3 That would have. 00;23;33;16 - 00;23;54;08 Speaker 1 Been fun. Yeah, but I'm I'm not that surprised by what you're saying about social reckoning, because there have been movies like that before, too, that I've seen where I'm like, this was fine, but maybe two, like you're saying, because it's so recently happened, it's just kind of like, okay, like, yeah, this was dramatic when it happened a couple of years ago, and I'm not. 00;23;54;11 - 00;23;56;00 Speaker 3 Nothing has changed. 00;23;56;02 - 00;24;19;07 Speaker 1 And I think you're right, like Zuckerberg is me, the kind of character, the kind of person that like, it's just I don't even know if there's any point in trying to be like. And I don't know if that was what Jeremy Strong was doing because he's just so unique. Also. Yeah, yeah. 00;24;19;09 - 00;24;30;17 Speaker 1 Anyway, but I'm glad to hear about Mikey Madison. Yeah, I do have to check out an aura. I used to watch her on a she's on Better things. The TV show was what I originally knew her from, and so I'm glad. 00;24;30;19 - 00;24;35;29 Speaker 3 I knew she was on TV, but I never even know what it was. What is this? Better things? 00;24;36;02 - 00;24;54;14 Speaker 1 Yeah, it's Adlon is the mom. And then. So she plays one of the daughters and she's a writer, her mom. It's a really it's a good show, but it's just funny because I feel like a lot of people stay away from the show, which is true, where, like, I see clips and people are like, are her daughters just like trash? 00;24;54;16 - 00;25;17;06 Speaker 1 Like, are these like the worst kids that have ever existed? Like, it just seems like every clip isn't being so insufferable, but it's really good to watch. And it's interesting to see then Mikey Madison in that kind of a role where she really is just playing like a teenager a lot of the time it's very, very well. And then now seeing her as like a grown up, I guess, like it's just it's interesting. 00;25;17;06 - 00;25;26;03 Speaker 1 But I am happy for her that she seems to be really excelling. I forgot that she had won the the Oscar for that. Right? 00;25;26;05 - 00;25;50;10 Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah she did. Yeah. I love that movie. I mean, I love Sean Baker movies. One of these days I will force us to go through them and and watch them rewatch them. So moving on to Resident Evil. Yes, I would have loved to seen Resident Evil in theaters with you. It was so much fun and I don't think I was into it being such a fun romp. 00;25;50;11 - 00;26;18;18 Speaker 3 Like it is this little self-contained thing that doesn't really have to do with the rest of Resident Evil. Like the franchise itself. I'm a big fan of the originals. I know they're not like the greatest cinema to ever come out. I like, but I like the Mila Djokovic ones. I, I, I have fun with them. I think I've, I think I watch them all. 00;26;18;21 - 00;26;39;04 Speaker 3 So when I heard that it wasn't really going to have anything to do with those resident evils, I was a little bit like, oh man, but I like those. And like, I like Zack Krieger. I liked I really liked weapons. I mean, most people like weapons like. Right? That's why it was nominated a bunch and it was a hit. 00;26;39;10 - 00;27;02;24 Speaker 3 And, you know, The barbarian I know everybody really loves and I enjoy it, but I think I really love the beginning of barbarian more than I like the rest of it. But anyway, I was like, oh, okay, cool, cool. I'm really excited for someone to take this on who I have confidence in, who I enjoy. And so when I heard that it really wasn't going to be like that, I was like, yeah, okay. 00;27;02;24 - 00;27;25;05 Speaker 3 But like I still had the faith that I would enjoy the movie because of it. I remember you and I had the conversation about like, should it really be titled Resident Evil? Then if it's not necessarily like a, like a huge part of the IP or whatever? And after watching it, I will say that is totally fine that it's named Resident Evil. 00;27;25;06 - 00;27;46;24 Speaker 3 Like, yeah, it's good with me. But it was hilarious. Like, I, I thought we were watching a comedy and not, like in a bad way that it was so silly or, you know, like, you know, sometimes when the scary is kind of too silly and so, like, it's not so it's not scary enough. So you kind of just laugh at it. 00;27;46;25 - 00;28;10;12 Speaker 3 No, no, no, I'm not talking about that. Like it's legitimately and he's good with this. Like I think that Kroger is very good at this, at putting funny moments in comedy in his horror movies because like, there are there are parts of weapons that make me laugh out loud, and I think it's a purposeful he is trying to make you laugh. 00;28;10;12 - 00;28;28;29 Speaker 3 He's trying to have some comedy in his, in his films. So I'm going to lean on you, Nicole, a bit for her to remember a huge part of plot. And because I've seen it, I saw it like three weeks ago and you just got to see it a couple of days ago. So I really, really, really like this one. 00;28;29;01 - 00;28;58;07 Speaker 3 And it was like one of those, like, you could just have fun with it. It's not going to tell you anything about anything necessarily. I mean, he still does a really good job with like character. We know who this character is, like right off the bat. Like Austin Abrams, who plays the main courier, he's tasked with delivering a package to the remote hospital and Raccoon City, and he finds himself caught in the middle of an outbreak and must fight through hordes of mutated creatures to survive. 00;28;58;09 - 00;29;19;07 Speaker 3 And that's where the Resident Evil aspects come in. And so, Austin Abrams, we kind of, I think, like the opening scene is a really well written intro to a character where you're like, okay, we know this character. You could kind of, you know, predict what he's going to do. But yeah, how did you how do you feel about that introduction? 00;29;19;07 - 00;29;25;04 Speaker 3 Because I think you're going to be able to elaborate on it a little bit more because it's fresh in your mind. 00;29;25;05 - 00;29;53;25 Speaker 1 Yeah. The choice to make it just like a dude that this is happening to. I've seen people I think that I've seen a lot of people that really like, love it. It's getting a lot of good reactions and that people seem to think that that's just a very fun perspective to tackle and like that. Maybe this is the kind of story, like, if not even if you're familiar with like Resident Evil, but also just like the kind of movie where there's an outbreak zombie sort of thing. 00;29;53;26 - 00;29;55;18 Speaker 3 Apocalypse video game. 00;29;55;19 - 00;29;56;07 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00;29;56;08 - 00;29;58;03 Speaker 3 Yeah, like a video zombie game. 00;29;58;04 - 00;30;13;17 Speaker 1 Yeah. That you're like, we're all coming to this movie with like, all of that, like all we've ever seen, you know? And it's like, I remember like one Walking Dead was on to. Is it still whatever so much. 00;30;13;20 - 00;30;16;18 Speaker 3 Is it? Spinoff is one of the spin offs still going? I'm not sure. 00;30;16;21 - 00;30;39;08 Speaker 1 Still going going. But like, you know, that there was a point at which I feel like people did hit like fatigue with that kind of story because we're like, okay, there's so much of it. So that that you have to have something that maybe feels different about it and that he's not just relying on like, okay, like I'll just make it as scary as possible or the creatures as gross as possible or whatever. 00;30;39;10 - 00;31;03;25 Speaker 1 Yeah, that having it just be like a guy and not just a guy like this guy could be anybody, but but like you were saying, like, no, but like, actually any guy, a random ass guy, like, like who doesn't know what they're doing, who is constantly disassociating from it. I think that for me was my favorite part of the movie, was just how many times he would go through something so horrific and he'd be like, I didn't do that. 00;31;03;25 - 00;31;05;02 Speaker 1 That didn't happen. You know. 00;31;05;03 - 00;31;05;21 Speaker 3 That's not real. 00;31;05;22 - 00;31;23;04 Speaker 1 That's not real. My the part I think where I left the most was like there were two bodies fuzing together. And I think he was like, he was like, don't do that. What are you doing? You know, like just a new thing pop up and he'd be like, what is this now? You know, like, just so put upon. 00;31;23;06 - 00;31;44;25 Speaker 1 But that it wasn't like he's not a traditional character, I guess, in the sense of what we're used to. We're even in the movie where you're having these kind of emotional beats, you know, like throughout it we have the tie to his girlfriend. I think it would be his girlfriend that we have that as his human story and how we're introduced to him where it's like, okay, like unexpected pregnancy. 00;31;44;26 - 00;32;07;19 Speaker 1 How is he dealing with this? He has just like, yes, like a very like a reaction, relatable and that kind of emotional through line throughout so that we see like there's somebody that he cares about. He has regrets. But even that it's not like milked so much. And it's also funny because I saw some people being like, I can't believe Brian didn't make it, you know? 00;32;07;20 - 00;32;11;20 Speaker 1 And it's just like, no, I mean, like he can't, you know, like, yeah. 00;32;11;22 - 00;32;32;16 Speaker 3 But also it's so good because that's why it's it's okay. That's named Resident Evil. Like he's one of the creatures now of like the outbreak. And so like he's a part of one of the creatures that you'd bump into in the game or in the movie. Like that's how I took it, you know that. Now he's he's one of those creatures that he was fighting. 00;32;32;17 - 00;32;34;15 Speaker 3 He's he's a part of Resident Evil now. 00;32;34;16 - 00;32;36;17 Speaker 1 Which is really cool. And then it's. 00;32;36;18 - 00;32;40;08 Speaker 3 It's his origin story of how he ended up being this monster, you know. 00;32;40;10 - 00;32;40;18 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00;32;40;19 - 00;32;41;13 Speaker 3 And the. 00;32;41;17 - 00;33;02;10 Speaker 1 You know, we have we have all the other things. And we also have like the original Resident Evil and that, you know, you can focus on that story. Like, we know that part of, I guess, that world, then we're just like, okay, like I'm trying to find my way through this, overcome it, be the hero, you know, find some hope, whatever. 00;33;02;12 - 00;33;27;25 Speaker 1 I feel like going into it, you know, just like if you're familiar, you're like, okay, this is the beginning of it. Like, this is how everything just, like, goes to hell. Having that ending shot of him, just a disgusting monster of all these views all together screaming. But in terms of like that part of the movie where they're trying to build him as, like an emotional character and we have a connection to him. 00;33;27;27 - 00;33;45;12 Speaker 1 At first, I didn't know how I felt about it when I got out of the movie because it was it was like, I don't know, do I feel like satisfied because I spent so much time with this guy? And then it just he very quickly, then at the end, like became this horrible, terrible thing. And then it was just over. 00;33;45;12 - 00;34;03;17 Speaker 1 But then the more I sat with it, it was like, no, I think I'm okay with it. I think I'm all right with it because like, that's the end. That's the proper end of that story. Like we're getting the story of somebody who's there at the beginning that it's just complete luck. Is that the guy and one of the doctors? 00;34;03;18 - 00;34;05;16 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. 00;34;05;18 - 00;34;26;27 Speaker 3 This character, this is not a hero's journey, you know, like this isn't that type of character. Not saying that maybe his character could become that if it was, if he survived longer, you know, but I don't know. I don't see that kind of character as being someone who survives a Resident Evil outbreak. Like, I don't know, like, I don't see it. 00;34;26;27 - 00;34;59;18 Speaker 3 I just don't see it. Yeah, I think and I think I'm totally okay with it because everything about it was, if you play video games, right, a lot of stories are you find some letters, you find a recording, you find a voicemail. And I think that Zack Krieger was actually like, wink, wink. This is, you know, one of those little characters that you would find along the way and learn about their story as you were going through a game. 00;34;59;24 - 00;35;23;03 Speaker 3 I think that's what he was doing, especially when he's doing of that last recording and leaving the voicemail. Or and I think maybe it's just a recording on his phone. Actually, it's just a recording on his phone. And it's like to his girlfriend kind of to himself, to whoever finds it. And I'm like, that's where like it clicked with me or I'm like, oh, this is a character. 00;35;23;05 - 00;36;05;29 Speaker 3 This is one of these like, not even MPC because you wouldn't even bump into it. You know, if you play a lot of action adventure type video games, they have a lot of these where like if you pay attention, if you pick up a note, if you listen to a recording, if you see a picture, you learn things about the character, other characters or like they're not really necessarily big characters, but there are these I think they're the ones that help round out the world, shape the story, and they give you something about how this whole thing happened, especially if you're in like an apocalypse type game, right? 00;36;06;01 - 00;36;32;23 Speaker 3 Story. You these little things, if you pick them up and you actually read them or listen to them, they tell you a little side story about this character and it gives you more insight into how we got here. You know? So for me, that's what this felt like. And I think that Krieger totally understands a video games and how you play them and, and then this kind of story. 00;36;32;23 - 00;36;39;01 Speaker 3 So I thought it was a very neat thing that like, he was giving us one of those stories. So that's why I'm good with it. 00;36;39;03 - 00;37;17;02 Speaker 1 No, no. It's so interesting watching you watching and watching and listening to you talk about it, because I'm not a huge video game, girly. I'm just like, you know, my tone. I'd love to watch people play games, but that I don't think that I would have picked up on that that moment with the voice mail. But what I liked about the moment with the voice mail is the way that it is cut into with the humor and even the way that like how in a traditional, you know, like that, it's like, okay, this would be the big emotional moment where we're supposed to get upset because he's never going to see his wife friend again. 00;37;17;02 - 00;37;28;23 Speaker 1 But even the way that Austin Abrams cries like it's I appreciated that. I'm like, this is not like a movie cry. Like, this is someone really like somebody like. 00;37;28;28 - 00;37;30;11 Speaker 3 It's not pathetic. 00;37;30;12 - 00;38;01;18 Speaker 1 Yeah. And then just like crying guy. Yeah. You. And then we just swiftly kind of move past it as well that it's just. I feel like there were a lot of moments in the movie that I appreciated where it was just like, so like once everything started happening that it's like, no, like if this was really happening, you don't have time to have like these big emotional considerations sometimes that I think the pacing of it too, like I loved it so much, the way that we very slowly start with that woman that he ends up running over. 00;38;01;19 - 00;38;05;07 Speaker 1 That's my God, the way that he deals with her. 00;38;05;09 - 00;38;06;05 Speaker 3 That corrects me. 00;38;06;06 - 00;38;07;29 Speaker 1 Yeah, that everything's in. 00;38;08;01 - 00;38;24;05 Speaker 5 The whole that whole sequence, all the sequences of those scenes together. This is actually what I was going to say about that is did you laugh as hard as I did? Which I don't know, we didn't like on a level of like 1 to 10. 00;38;24;06 - 00;38;43;17 Speaker 3 So when the first of all, when the car passes and she, like, looks at it when the sheriff gets involved or whatever, and then takes her, which I don't know, whoever would take her into, like the front seat of the car. I think even anything any civilian needs to be placed in the back, even if there. So that was an interesting choice by the sheriff. 00;38;43;17 - 00;39;10;09 Speaker 3 But is it? The car passes and she's just like looking back at Brian, at the character of his car is just like a lot of people found it scary. I think it was meant to be hilarious. I think that whole character, the woman that got hit, is meant to be funny. There's another part where she keeps reaching towards him, even, like after the fact of of it, like she knows him. 00;39;10;12 - 00;39;16;10 Speaker 3 I just thought it was hilarious. There was a part where they're running around the car. 00;39;16;13 - 00;39;17;18 Speaker 1 And he's. 00;39;17;20 - 00;39;40;21 Speaker 3 Like, with the gun. I thought that was hilarious. Like. And it was funny because it was interesting to watch the the theater audience. I had a pretty full packed theater. It was fun for them to finally, like, I'm not saying, oh, I got it before everyone else. No, I just think that I was willing. I kind of saw like, what Krieger was doing, and I thought it was funny. 00;39;40;21 - 00;40;04;14 Speaker 3 And so I was laughing. And after like a couple of more instances of, of, like, funny humor from this zombie woman, people kind of, like, started laughing and got on board and they're like, okay, okay, I get it. Like it felt like it was just like a nice little, eureka kind of moment where everyone was like, oh, it's just this is fun. 00;40;04;15 - 00;40;24;23 Speaker 3 Like it kind of established that I'm not trying to scare you witless, you know? Like, I'm not trying to scare you silly. I'm trying to let you have a good time. And I thought that that that whole scene in sequence of of that in the beginning kind of did establish like, no, it's okay. Like you're here to have a good time. 00;40;24;24 - 00;40;51;04 Speaker 1 Yeah. That's it. No, that's a really good point to let the audience know you can laugh like this is the type of movie and not you're right, not too late into the movie that you're kind of confused about the tone. And I think that, you know, maybe for some people I saw like a couple, like very random, you know, shitty reviews because they didn't like how, like, it's not supposed to be funny and it's like. 00;40;51;06 - 00;40;53;05 Speaker 3 What it's totally supposed to be. 00;40;53;08 - 00;41;08;03 Speaker 1 Or like that they didn't they didn't like the tone of the movie, his kind of take on it. And, you know, he is he's from the comedy world. Like that's his background. He's white is good. You know, that's I that's how I. 00;41;08;03 - 00;41;09;04 Speaker 3 Read their sketch group. 00;41;09;05 - 00;41;34;24 Speaker 1 Yeah. And so yeah. And all the movies, especially weapons like there were. Yeah, there were so many movies that made me laugh out loud and that everybody laughed together because it was very clear, like, oh, okay. No, like, this is supposed to be funny, but not in the way where you're getting kind of like tonal whiplash, like it carries through all the way to with that lady that like when she's then fuzed with everybody at the end and he's just like, I'm sorry I hit you with my car. 00;41;34;25 - 00;42;06;14 Speaker 1 Like, fuck off. Like, yeah, I like that part of it too. Also that it wasn't just like, okay, this is our introduction. And now he's dealing with a whole bunch of different creatures to that. Like that element to of, I guess, the Resident Evil world and the way that everything fuzes together. This shot when he's like looking that that is genuinely terrifying when he's running and then alongside him in the woods, you see the whole thing flipping over with the limbs like, yeah, I, I screamed a couple of times. 00;42;06;14 - 00;42;22;18 Speaker 1 I did, just like there were a couple of scenes, but I think that that's really like crazy talent to be able to have those moments land. And then also when it's funny, it's so funny. And and Austin Abrams too, like he's everywhere right now. 00;42;22;20 - 00;42;23;16 Speaker 3 He's hilarious. 00;42;23;17 - 00;42;40;25 Speaker 1 He's hilarious. He's everybody's favorite little white boy of the month right now. Maybe he's keeping the rounds and he's been around for so long now, I feel like the first thing I saw him in was this like show that got canceled. Smith. And then he was on Walking Dead, two random movies. 00;42;40;25 - 00;42;43;21 Speaker 3 I didn't know that. What season was it. 00;42;43;24 - 00;42;50;09 Speaker 1 A Walking Dead? Yeah. I could not tell you a number of this. I'm like. 00;42;50;10 - 00;43;00;21 Speaker 3 I did I did stop at like 5 or 6. I will admit that I bowed out of Walking Dead around season 5 or 6 whenever, like the cannibals. 00;43;00;23 - 00;43;01;10 Speaker 1 It was after. 00;43;01;11 - 00;43;04;25 Speaker 3 The I couldn't get into it. I couldn't get into it. Oh yeah. So that's what. 00;43;05;01 - 00;43;24;16 Speaker 1 It was I forget. Yeah, people. But they're like in an established town and he. Yeah, he plays a character where you're just like, oh my God, this fucking candy. Like just like so annoyed by him. But now it's so funny. Like seeing him, like all the commercials for a whale fall, you know? So I'm, like, seeing him in. 00;43;24;16 - 00;43;25;26 Speaker 3 All this. Yeah. That's out now. 00;43;25;27 - 00;43;32;04 Speaker 1 Yeah. And then I'm seeing so much just him constantly fighting inside of this whale. Interesting. Interesting. 00;43;32;04 - 00;43;45;19 Speaker 3 Cause you know what? Actually, I'll go watch it now. Like, when I saw the train, I was like, what is this? I don't want to watch this, but, like, now him, I have this. I'm like, I've always kind of enjoyed him. But after Resident Evil, I'm like, yeah, why not? 00;43;45;20 - 00;43;46;12 Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. 00;43;46;12 - 00;43;47;05 Speaker 3 I'll go watch him. 00;43;47;06 - 00;43;47;18 Speaker 1 Honestly. 00;43;47;19 - 00;43;50;02 Speaker 3 You can watch him inside a well, yeah. 00;43;50;02 - 00;44;10;07 Speaker 1 If it was. Yeah. I remember the first time I saw the trailer, I was like, what? Like, so he's in The Whale, the whole movie, but, like, I think he could catch the whale. Exactly. But I really. So I've always liked him and I thought he was talented, but I think that the character he played in weapons, I was like, oh, wow. 00;44;10;11 - 00;44;30;17 Speaker 1 Like just because of all the other stuff that I had seen him in that specific role to. And then the I don't know, the empathy he brought to that role and comedy, obviously it's very funny. And Zach, you know, said to that he was the only original cast member that stuck with him for that movie because they had a whole other additional cast. 00;44;30;17 - 00;44;38;20 Speaker 1 And then because of time and then people having obligations, everybody ended up dropping out except for Austin Abrams. But he was like, always. 00;44;38;21 - 00;44;39;21 Speaker 3 This for Resident Evil. 00;44;39;22 - 00;44;50;04 Speaker 1 Yeah. And that I saw that Krieger talking about to. He's like, I know he was getting really good. Like good, like whatever. And he was waiting, and he stuck with me and did this with me. 00;44;50;06 - 00;45;12;11 Speaker 3 Well, I'm sure after weapons, you probably have a lot of faith in a director. And and maybe he just like. No, there's no there's no better roll out there that I would rather choose. Especially because I feel like, you know, he trusted him with this movie. Like, this is Austin Abrams movie. He is a main character, you know? 00;45;12;15 - 00;45;23;14 Speaker 3 So maybe it was an opportunity that just he wasn't getting elsewhere because I could see you. You stereotyping him into not a lead, you know? Well, only supporting. 00;45;23;14 - 00;45;39;15 Speaker 1 It was the original of weapons that everybody dropped. It was a weapon. Weapons? Yeah. So that that's why I've seen people ask him interviews like, okay. So like, is he like your star and stuff because it's like and he's like, well, I believe, you know, he's like, I think he's very talented. But he's stuck with me through weapons. 00;45;39;15 - 00;45;47;29 Speaker 1 And he was like, yeah, like, I'll wait until we can get the whole cast again. And we could do the movie. Yeah. And then cast him for this. And yeah. 00;45;48;00 - 00;45;49;05 Speaker 3 I guess it paid off. 00;45;49;08 - 00;45;51;09 Speaker 1 Well, it paid off. 00;45;51;09 - 00;45;52;01 Speaker 3 But. 00;45;52;04 - 00;46;16;18 Speaker 1 Yeah, he definitely was able to carry the whole movie. And I think he's very charming and just authentically funny, and that there were maybe some moments in the movie that wouldn't the humor might not come off as well like that. You need the right person to be doing it. And he was great. I mean, listen, like he was so great that, like you said, like, I'll maybe I'll go see the whale movie now, whereas before I'd be like, I'm not saying. 00;46;16;20 - 00;46;18;28 Speaker 3 I know just that story. 00;46;18;29 - 00;46;19;15 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00;46;19;18 - 00;46;30;29 Speaker 3 Funny you mentioned the the people smithing in a big ball in the woods. Yeah. Scene. That's practical. They got acrobats to do that. Did you know that? 00;46;30;29 - 00;46;34;03 Speaker 1 I saw a clip of the people all together. 00;46;34;05 - 00;46;35;15 Speaker 3 Of the academia. 00;46;35;21 - 00;46;42;16 Speaker 1 And I was like, what? Although then I didn't know if they added like there was something I think that they were saying. 00;46;42;16 - 00;46;44;07 Speaker 3 That they might. Yeah, they might have had to. 00;46;44;08 - 00;46;55;11 Speaker 1 Yeah. That it just didn't look right, I guess maybe just having them. But when I saw all the people spitting together, I was like, wait a second, I'm like, what is that? And then when I saw it in the movie, I was like, oh shit. I was like, that's that's amazing. 00;46;55;15 - 00;47;14;19 Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Cool to know that. And yeah, no, it's a fun movie. It's one of those where, like I had told you, I was like, I'd go see it again. Just for fun. Yeah. You know, I'll probably it'll be one of those that I will just pop on, you know, in Halloween time, you know, or just looking for a good horror movie. 00;47;14;20 - 00;47;33;23 Speaker 3 It's definitely going to be one of those that I watch a bunch of times for fun. And I show it to a bunch of people because I think even a group watch of Resident Evil has got to be a ton of fun. I love movies like that. Like I love bodies, bodies, bodies, that movie I enjoy so much. 00;47;33;24 - 00;47;37;12 Speaker 3 It's so much fun. Have you seen bodies? 00;47;37;14 - 00;47;38;00 Speaker 1 It's. 00;47;38;02 - 00;47;38;14 Speaker 3 Oh. 00;47;38;14 - 00;47;39;12 Speaker 1 No. 00;47;39;14 - 00;47;41;08 Speaker 6 You haven't seen it yet. It's like. It's cool. 00;47;41;09 - 00;47;47;18 Speaker 1 It's on my Halloween watch list. That is on a list that I have that I haven't watched a thing on it. 00;47;47;19 - 00;47;52;15 Speaker 3 Oh, my God, I'm just going to go fly to you right now. We're just going to run through all these. 00;47;52;17 - 00;47;56;12 Speaker 1 I know, I just want to watch movies with you. 00;47;56;15 - 00;47;57;15 Speaker 3 Doesn't everything I know. 00;47;57;22 - 00;48;00;02 Speaker 1 Movies with their friends. 00;48;00;05 - 00;48;08;26 Speaker 3 Yep. That's all I want to do, man. All right, well, you know, next visit, just an entire day of all the movies. 00;48;08;29 - 00;48;10;02 Speaker 1 Yes. All the stuff. 00;48;10;03 - 00;48;10;09 Speaker 3 That. 00;48;10;09 - 00;48;10;20 Speaker 1 I. 00;48;10;27 - 00;48;42;14 Speaker 3 Will force upon you. But bodies, bodies, bodies is a lot of fun. And I love watching it in a group. And I love seeing people's reactions. And because, like, comedy, I think is one of those that like, it's fun to watch. I'm not always of the mindset of like, I love watching films with like a huge theater full, you know, like, I get it, I like the theater experience more for like the projector and the sound and the like, the dark lights, and nobody's going to bother me. 00;48;42;17 - 00;49;13;14 Speaker 3 Hopefully, you know, nobody no one's a nuisance in the audience. But I'm very much like, I don't really need to experience in a room full of people. But I think comedy lends itself really well to that. Like, those are the moments even more so than, like, horror and getting afraid or whatever. I think that comedy, even though, like we've had less comedies in theaters lately, I think comedy is actually like the general meant to be experienced in a room full of people, you know? 00;49;13;14 - 00;49;14;03 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00;49;14;09 - 00;49;36;04 Speaker 3 So you can all enjoy in the laughter and the shenanigans. So yeah, yeah, yeah, Resident Evil is. And I'm surprised, like, I thought it was going to be well done. You know, I have enough faith in this filmmaker now that I'm like, oh, going to be good. But I didn't think it was going to be like such. 00;49;36;04 - 00;49;39;06 Speaker 6 A hoot. 00;49;39;09 - 00;49;52;05 Speaker 1 It's very fun. Like I it is the kind of movie that I feel like I could tell anybody to go see. Like, I mean, even if you don't like horror, like it is scary, I'm not going to say that it's not. But I just think it's. 00;49;52;06 - 00;49;53;27 Speaker 3 Like, you think it's scary. 00;49;54;00 - 00;49;55;20 Speaker 1 I but. 00;49;55;23 - 00;49;59;16 Speaker 3 I only had like one moment of like. But that was just a jump scare. 00;49;59;18 - 00;50;00;10 Speaker 6 No, but. 00;50;00;13 - 00;50;02;01 Speaker 3 And then it made me laugh. 00;50;02;03 - 00;50;06;15 Speaker 1 I mean, for people that are like the people that are like, don't like to watch anything. 00;50;06;17 - 00;50;07;08 Speaker 3 Oh, right. 00;50;07;09 - 00;50;17;04 Speaker 1 Or or whatever. Like. Yeah. But like you're saying I will. I didn't think of it as like, this is a terrifying movie. Now that is a movie for babies. But like. 00;50;17;06 - 00;50;21;13 Speaker 6 I know I would not show it to your children. I mean, it earns its R-rating. 00;50;21;21 - 00;50;37;15 Speaker 1 It does, but that I feel like the feel of the movie. It's the kind of thing, like there's a lot of movies that I really like that I go see, but I'm like, I can't really recommend them to like a lot of people, I would say I'd be like, okay, this for everybody, but this one, I do think that, like, a wide audience will enjoy it. 00;50;37;18 - 00;50;59;07 Speaker 3 Yeah, I agree with that. And then to wrap up, I did have a couple other thoughts now that I remember that I wanted to bring up about it. I love I mean, besides that one like sheriff thing of him putting the zombie woman in in his front seat, that probably wouldn't happen in in reality, I love that Krieger wrote out any. 00;50;59;10 - 00;51;01;25 Speaker 6 Loopholes. Like there was no. 00;51;01;25 - 00;51;28;15 Speaker 3 Way it could have gone any other way for this man. You know, like, there's not like, you know, like a lot of horror movies, you're like, oh, why would that happen? Or how did that happen? Or that silly or, you know, like, you don't believe it. I felt that it was a very solid like screenplay that there there's no like loopholes that you can find that don't make sense here or like, you know, why would they do that? 00;51;28;16 - 00;51;50;10 Speaker 3 Oh, that's too stupid. It's like, no, that's basically what would happen. There's like, this is this average man was is exactly how it would go down. You know, like I don't he's not good. I actually thought it was pretty funny. There was a couple, I guess, like, diagonal in front of us, and they were bothering me because they talked through the whole fucking thing, but. 00;51;50;13 - 00;52;02;24 Speaker 3 And, like, they were clearly the types that were like, oh, why would he do that? Oh my God, he says stupid sort of sort of types. And I'm like, this is exactly how a person would behave in this scenario. 00;52;02;26 - 00;52;04;08 Speaker 1 Like, yeah. 00;52;04;11 - 00;52;26;05 Speaker 3 You guys would be doing exactly what this character would be doing. There's just like and there's little moments to where, like he puts the ladder up and then he takes it. He when he gets up like in the shed with the dog, his army dog. And like he, he thinks he like, did a good job by knocking the ladder down after, afterwards. 00;52;26;05 - 00;52;53;16 Speaker 3 And then he has no way to get out the other side. And then he grabs onto the hook and the whole hook just falls. And I just, I just loved it because I thought it was such a realistic way of this would happen. Like, you think you're so smart and also you think, oh, video games, you know, like, you know, he handled it like a video game character or how you would if you were playing a video game, but then like the reality set in or like, no, he would fall or whatever. 00;52;53;19 - 00;53;14;11 Speaker 3 And so it did kind of pay off when you get that moment where he, I'm trying to remember exactly. He's on the building on the ledge going up to that upper floor, and he got all these zombies coming at him. And so he aims just in the right area to them, make all the zombies fall down like. 00;53;14;13 - 00;53;17;28 Speaker 3 Yeah. And then he's like, yeah, video games or something. 00;53;17;28 - 00;53;18;16 Speaker 1 Like that. Yeah. 00;53;18;18 - 00;53;39;16 Speaker 3 And it was very funny and it was very earned, I felt because a lot of times I feel like the film was showing us. No, this is this wouldn't work. This is actually what it worked real life or whatever. And like they played it out that way that like he only everything goes wrong for him. He can't he can't break the locks. 00;53;39;16 - 00;53;50;11 Speaker 3 Most of the most of the locks. He can't. You know, there's just so many different times where like, it does. Oh, he shoots his car when he's trying to shoot. 00;53;50;13 - 00;53;54;19 Speaker 1 When he's like, who shot my car? Yeah. 00;53;54;21 - 00;54;22;15 Speaker 3 And so I just thought it was a really clever way of of portraying how an average person would probably go through this scenario. And I also think, yeah, this type of person is probably not making it out like so. Yeah, I don't know, I, I love the whole thing. So those are my final thoughts on it. 00;54;22;18 - 00;54;46;18 Speaker 1 I'll say that the padlocks, the constant locks, every time when he was trying to shoot them and then also just like that is such a movie moment that usually it's like, oh yeah, just run through the gate with your car and it just does not. And then the key falls out of the thing like, yeah, there were a lot of moments that built nicely to the ending where he shoots the I think it's a broom. 00;54;46;19 - 00;55;03;12 Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a broom that's like through the door. And he perfectly aims and stuff so that like, even if he does and he's not the hero, like we said, like he does get his nice moment where like he feels like yeah, that was really cool. 00;55;03;15 - 00;55;13;29 Speaker 1 That was really cool. But then again, he's just he's just a dude sitting in the lab like, can I, can I have some of that? Can I get some, get some? 00;55;14;04 - 00;55;39;17 Speaker 3 Yeah, even that final scene is pretty funny. And I could see where some people are like, oh, the scientists are acting like idiots. But I don't know. I feel like the director already set us up to know that, like, people don't do smart things, especially in these kinds of crisis scenarios, and also that this is supposed to be funny. 00;55;39;20 - 00;56;04;29 Speaker 3 As for what to cover next, there's also a bunch of things coming out. Coming up, I think Wildwood, the new Laika stop motion, it's coming out in the next week, and so is Sense and Sensibility with Daisy Edgar-Jones. I mean, I always love I don't even, even if it's not a great Jane Austen adaptation. I got to see it. 00;56;04;29 - 00;56;28;13 Speaker 3 I got to see an adaptation. Like, I'm never gonna miss a Jane Austen film. But yeah, there's a bunch coming up. So we'll pick something. Thanks for listening. Of course. Subscribe and follow us so that you know when a new episode drops. Because I don't know when I'm going to drop the episodes at this point. But thank you for following along. 00;56;28;14 - 00;56;34;05 Speaker 3 Thanks for listening. And stay curious. We'll see you soon. Thanks. 00;56;34;07 - 00;56;34;18 Speaker 1 Bye.