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Why we DON'T take on residential cases, as paranormal investigators... · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  Coming up... Run away from the people who call
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  themselves paranormal experts. Yeah, they're
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  trying to get money from you, or views from you,
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  which ultimately just converts to money, so...
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  Basically, they're just looking for attention.
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  Welcome back to Paranormal Lens. I am Ben, and
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  I have to set this episode up just a tad, because
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  we recorded it a little differently than normal.
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  Now, if you're a long -time listener, you know...
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  that this podcast is very off the cuff. It is
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  not rehearsed. It is not refined. It is as raw
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  with as minimal editing as possible. Just our
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  conversations about a predetermined set topic.
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  And that's the key. That's the only thing that
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  provides any element of structure is like there's
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  a topic that we know is going to be the topic
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  going in beforehand. This episode is different
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  because we were set to record a totally separate
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  topic. But right before I went to hit the record
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  button, I got the longest, strangest, most in
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  -depth, cry, plea for help message ever on our
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  Instagram page. And we get these type of messages
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  a lot. You know, people asking us to investigate
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  their homes, claims of negative hauntings, demonic
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  infestations, people needing our help. And unlike
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  most paranormal teams out there, we shy away
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  from all residential cases. We have never done
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  a residential case. We refuse to do residential
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  cases and we won't do a residential case. Now,
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  if you're like a friend or family that's like,
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  hey, want to come check out our house? That's
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  different than what we're talking about. We're
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  talking about strangers on the Internet that
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  are having negative and in many of their words,
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  demonic experiences in their homes. And then
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  they reach out to us, strangers on the Internet,
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  to come into their homes and rid. their homes
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  of the negativity the demonic force the paranormal
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  activity going on um a lot of paranormal teams
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  do this they take on these residential cases
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  we do not this one specific message i got right
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  before hitting record was very in -depth about
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  How this woman's husband and now her children
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  were getting attacked in the middle of the night.
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  They were waking up with deep scratches. They
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  were seeing demonic figures. Just overwhelming,
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  negative, volatile energy and vibe. So how do
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  you respond to a message like this? And how do
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  you politely decline considering that we don't
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  do residential cases? So we just started talking
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  raw in the moment. About this and other messages
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  that we've gotten, you know, going back nine
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  years at this point, asking us to do that very
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  request, come in and and rid someone's house,
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  a stranger's house of perceived paranormal activity.
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  So I'll stop yapping and let's get to the intro
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  and we'll come out of the intro into a raw conversation
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  about why we don't do these cases. Welcome to
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  our podcast where we take deep dives looking
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  at various topics through a paranormal lens.
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  So I started recording in the middle of conversation.
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  What you're about to hear is Angela discussing
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  why the haunting that's haunting this family,
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  other families, probably isn't quote demonic,
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  isn't probably necessarily good nor bad. It's
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  just scary because it's unknown. So let's dive
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  in. I don't even know. It's probably just an
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  entity that's not good nor bad. But since you
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  don't understand it, you're probably just scared
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  and blah, blah, blah, blah, stuff like that.
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  And we don't know how to do exorcisms. We don't
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  even necessarily believe in that. Like, it's
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  probably just all psychological. Or since they
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  think it's demonic, that means we don't even
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  believe in demons necessarily. And there might
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  be some out there, but we have never came across
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  them. It's just like. Well, they're coming at
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  it inherently if they think it's demonic with
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  a religious viewpoint. They already were told
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  to find a priest. We don't even have a uniformed
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  religion amongst us. Yeah, we can't help them.
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  If it's a very religious type of thing, like,
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  it's not going to happen. But, like, do you think
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  even, like, because we give them our opinion,
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  they're going to think we're BS, you know? They
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  don't understand. They're not looking for nuance.
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  We're all about nuance and talking about this
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  stuff. long form and over the course of years
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  to see how our opinions vary and change and people
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  people are looking for help and a peace of mind
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  which we don't even have a peace of mind on this
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  sort of stuff do we even think that i don't even
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  think you can have a spirit crossover you know
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  quote unquote like you see on the shows every
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  time they say oh we helped a spirit see the light
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  And then next week, a different show goes there
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  and talks to the same spirit. Yeah. It's like,
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  I just am imagining, you know, that one TV show,
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  The Ghost Whisperer. Yeah. And she's like, you
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  can see the light now, can't you? They're like,
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  yeah. She's like, they just go to the light.
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  It's like, that's not, I don't think that's really
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  what happens. No. And that's what people are
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  sending us messages like this. That's what they
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  want. They want, get rid of the spirit. Make
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  sure I won't get scratched and woken up in the
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  middle of the night. How do I guarantee that?
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  My apartment is crazy haunted with haunted objects.
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  But what I found in talking with other people
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  that have... haunted locations have haunted objects
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  it's like 80 20 like 80 percent of time nothing
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  happens 20 percent of time it does if you're
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  experiencing a flurry of activity honestly constantly
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  usually it's in the you know like you know if
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  if you see over the course of a year you'll get
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  one flurry of like a week where shit hits the
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  fan you're calling us or messaging us in that
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  moment of shit hitting the fan so it seems like
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  a lot I would honestly tell them, like, hey,
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  wait a couple weeks. You'll probably die down,
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  and you won't have anything happen for another
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  year, which is usually what happens. But my experience
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  isn't their experience, and I do this full -time.
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  They don't do it full -time. They want out of
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  there. They have kids. They have pets. Like,
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  I get it, but, like, we're not. And also, we're,
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  like, in our 20s. Yeah. I remember when we were
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  in college and we'd get these sorts of messages
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  for MSU Paranormal Society, we'd be like, we're
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  college students. Like, we're not even adults.
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  And you're asking us to help cleanse your house
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  from demons? There is one time someone emailed
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  the college because we met through MSU Paranormal
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  Society and we, you know, co -presidents of the
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  - paranormal club on campus people would knowingly
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  email like not even message a page like email
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  a msu .edu email asking 18 year olds to drive
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  two states over to come uh exercise the demon
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  possessing their grandmother's house yeah and
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  they were serious we're like what the are we
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  supposed to respond to this just don't respond
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  i i would respond and i would be like uh unfortunately
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  we are just a college club of college -aged students,
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  and we do not have the capabilities to help you
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  with this sort of thing. Like, I would recommend
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  reaching out to your, like, to local, more local
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  paranormal investigators, or if you feel like
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  it's that serious, maybe reaching out to your
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  local church denomination, whatever that may
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  be. What I'm wondering is, like, it doesn't seem
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  like these people who've ever messaged you, first
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  of all, know we don't really have, like, the
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  same viewpoints as a lot of other people. Even
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  us three, it's not even, we don't even clash
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  necessarily with how we view things sometimes.
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  And it's just, if they're coming off as, like,
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  something. at a religious viewpoint then they
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  should go out and contact people with the same
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  viewpoint and religion to help them like you
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  said they're looking for help like peace of mind
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  up here in the head not i mean have we ever in
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  our hundreds of investigations come out of a
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  singular one night investigation saying yeah
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  so the spirit is so and so And what's haunting
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  here is blah, blah, blah, blah. We know this
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  for a fact. Case closed. I don't think we've
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  ever done this. We'd be like, I have a feeling
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  it might be this or this, but we can't give you
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  a for sure answer. This is just like our experience
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  for the one in like two hours we were here type
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  of thing. And there's no stakes to that, though.
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  We can go to any random park and like come away
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  with no conclusion. But why would you want to
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  willingly inject yourself in a real family that
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  needs real help? And then you just give. you
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  know to us we understand there's no answers but
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  what do you do in that situation you either lie
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  to them with answers that you know aren't true
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  or you leave them in a place of even more uncertainty
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  because these ghost hunters came in and were
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  like yeah i i don't know every question is like
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  i don't know i don't know word it to them very
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  carefully and honestly i would just be like hey
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  we can't help you we don't we um you're coming
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  out well i wouldn't even necessarily say this
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  but like if they're coming out as a religious
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  uh religious stance of it i think in a demonic
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  maybe they should find someone who uh views the
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  same way as them um or and also like what you
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  said ben be like usually activity doesn't happen
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  constantly through like throughout the every
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  single day throughout the whole year just wait
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  a bit and a little calm down for a little bit
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  yeah that's also what i found you know i my personal
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  experience i don't know that you could just say
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  that to them and being like we can't help you
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  but this is what what we think or go find someone
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  who has the same stance and viewpoints as you
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  to go and help you otherwise we're not going
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  to be able to help you That's true. I mean, that's
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  what I would say. My thought in college was always
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  like, we're 18, what do we know? And still, it's
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  kind of some of that. But we're like older 20s
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  now. Yeah, but still we don't have like... We're
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  not like 18 years old. I know, but we don't have
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  the life experience. I mean, we have this podcast,
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  but a family... We don't have that experience
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  of dealing with something that's like that intense
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  of... activity or like harming actually like
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  actually harming people we've never come like
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  investigated anything like that people might
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  think that the activity that me and ben like
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  what we experience here like with jocks and animal
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  is evil and it's probably like the worst thing
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  that someone could ever possibly have to deal
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  with too like who knows how bad like the shit
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  that they're they're dealing with could just
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  be like footsteps you know yeah who knows and
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  they think because there's some sort of activity
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  it's demonic and it's going to be it's the worst
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  we know there's like in this case like scratches
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  and all this stuff but if someone's getting scratched
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  and they want the scratches to stop that's probably
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  not spirit there's probably something environmental
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  or something am i a scientist i have a journalism
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  degree what the why am i why is some 20 year
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  old with a journalism degree the person you call
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  because you're waking up with scratches on your
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  body At that point, I'd just be like, hey, tell
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  them to stop scratching and hurt you and then
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  they'll leave you alone. Okay, but want to know
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  my hottest hot take, I think, that I've ever
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  said on this podcast? What? People that go every
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  week and they send spears to the light and they
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  help families every week and they come out with
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  all these answers and just pat themselves on
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  the back like, oh my god. Ten cases this month
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  where I helped all these families and I read
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  all the demons and the spirits I crossed them
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  over and I helped all these families Cleanse
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  their houses in there. None of these houses are
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  haunted anymore. I get rid of all the bad hauntings
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  How many teams do that like all the time whether
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  they know it or not some someone's lying There's
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  some there's some deception going on there whether
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  they know it or not whatever they think they
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  sent to the light and helped and all this stuff
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  no one has that ability or those answers and
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  no one can say with confidence after one interaction
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  with the spirit like i just i don't buy that
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  i i feel like that's lying don't buy it either
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  yeah i wouldn't ever put myself in that place
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  to when there's a real person and then he's real
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  help say something that i don't think is true
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  i don't think I don't think anyone can really
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  send a spirit - I don't even know what that means,
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  sending them to the light. Why would I act like
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  I have the ability to? Yeah. Yeah. And then if
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  we make it into a film, we're exploiting a family
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  that needs real help. That's not what it's about.
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  No. Yeah. yeah well that was a good little rant
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  yeah sorry for derailing that we were about to
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  we're about to record a different podcast and
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  we got that message so i was just i just started
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  recording so this is like a real conversation
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  not a planned conversation yeah honestly and
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  i think this conversation's probably going better
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  than what our other conversation was going to
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  be probably because this is real and raw so yeah
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  yeah but like the thing like and this is this
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  is like you said why we don't do residential
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  stuff because a lot of it is these people who
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  are trying to get help you figure out what is
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  in their home and sometimes try to get rid of
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  it and we just don't have like no nobody has
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  that capability like maybe there's some people
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  who are super experienced and are I don't even
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  know. I don't want to say psychic, but have some
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  experience in some sort of mediumship to be able
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  to navigate that. But even with that, it's still
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  hard to say whether or not they're actually doing
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  something. How many times do we see investigations?
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  The entire haunting hinges on what one psychic
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  said at one time. I mean, Lorraine Warren did
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  that. All the movies, usually if you go back,
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  it's just like, she went in and she's like, yeah,
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  I feel like there's a person named so -and -so
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  that haunts so -and -so and makes up this big
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  story. How can you verify that? And what if there's
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  actually a spirit there? We don't know who these
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  spirits are. Even if you can send them to the
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  light or whatever, or cross them over, shouldn't
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  you, like... There's implications there for the
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  spirit's sake. If you don't even know who it
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  is, why are you sending them over? Why are you
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  crossing them over? Yeah, it just makes me think
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  of, like, this kind of sidetracks from that,
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  but it almost makes me think of, like, the GhostTube
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  app. You'll get so many random words through
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  that that don't really make sense, or names,
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  and it's like, someone could look at that and
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  be like, oh, this... spirit's name is david and
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  he was he's angry and all this other stuff that
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  this ghost tube app popped out and it's like
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  yeah there could be a spirit named david here
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  but is that like actually what you're interacting
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  with like is that actually what's going on who
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  knows who's to say you're more likely to believe
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  that too if you are because all these cases are
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  urgent You were called in by a family. I've been
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  scared for a week. It took another week for you
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  to get out of here, you know, to help me. It's
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  been two weeks to hell. I want you to investigate
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  tonight and tomorrow. Get rid of this demon.
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  Yeah. You know, so you have pressure. It's not
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  how it works. We have pressure in this urgent
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  case for the scared family to figure out what
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  is haunting there. If it's safe to keep it there,
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  if it's not how to get rid of it and then to
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  get rid of it. And then to do all these recommendations,
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  stay in touch. It's a whole commitment. But you
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  have to come up with all the prereq and all the
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  answers and figure out what a spirit is in one
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  night. And that doesn't happen. So if you have
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  an athlete ghost tube. It could take years to
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  figure out what you're dealing with. But you
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  have a pressure then if you get the name David
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  on ghost tube. When you're in that high pressure,
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  urgent environment, you're more likely to believe
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  that every random word could mean something.
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  yeah especially a vulnerable family if you say
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  does the name david mean anything to you and
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  they're like oh my god that was my best friend's
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  brother's wife's cousin's ex -boyfriend's murderer
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  or something i don't know and then it's just
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  like could it be the killer and then it's like
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  going down this weird rabbit hole because this
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  family doesn't know you know and they're not
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  familiar with what this app is and half these
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  ghost hunters don't even know what they're using
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  or how to explain to someone who's in a vulnerable
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  state what it's actually detecting it's just
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  a whole mess it really is yep yep but ever since
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  we were 18 years old we've been asked to do this
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  yeah the one thing that has always thrown me
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  off too besides the fact like i can i can appreciate
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  like people being scared or wanting answers or
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  that sort of thing the other thing that gets
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  like throws me off is like strangers wanting
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  strangers to come into their their house it's
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  like you could be if you were to go into this
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  you could be walking into anything And me being,
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  especially in college, a young woman, I don't
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  necessarily feel safe in a stranger's house.
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  I'm not going into no one's stranger's house
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  unless I know them. Exactly. Yeah, or a while.
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  So it's like, you also have that factor too of
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  like, I don't know you. I don't know your house.
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  This could be like... Like a serial killer or
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  something trying to lure their next victim. Or
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  not even that, like you could be walking into
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  a house and it could be like a hoarder's house.
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  Yeah. Yup. Bree's worst nightmare. Like... I
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  feel like if we walk into someone's house who
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  was asking for help and it's like a hoarder's
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  house or something, like an extreme hoarder's
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  house, I'd be like, mmm. Yeah, I think you just
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  have some issues and you need to figure this
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  out on your own because we can't help you. Or
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  go get a therapist or something. You need someone
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  to talk to is what I think. Like, that's the
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  same thing. Like, if someone is waking up with
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  scratches every time they go to sleep, it's like,
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  we, if someone pulled you on the side of the
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  street and they're like, hey, my mom has a hoarding
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  problem. What do I do? I don't know what to tell
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  them. Get a therapist. Yeah, but then they say,
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  okay, so who do you recommend? Like, shit, I
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  would know. I don't go to therapy. That's a problem.
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  But anyways, that's my point. It's like, you're
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  called in as a paranormal expert, and most of
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  the situations in these residential cases aren't.
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  paranormal and there aren't even such a thing
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  as paranormal experts anyways always be weary
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  that's the one if there's one rule in paranormal
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  it's like be weary of people that think there
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  are rules and that they know everything those
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  people are always either uh trying to run away
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  from the people call themselves paranormal experts
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  yeah they're trying to they're trying to get
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  money from you or views from you which ultimately
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  just converts to money so Basically, they're
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  just looking for attention. Listen, Bree, you're
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  a veterinarian. You're a 20 -year -old veterinarian.
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  I'm not a veterinarian. What the fuck are you?
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  I'm a veterinary assistant, which is very different
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  and degrees apart. I was going to say, don't
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  you have to have a doctor's degree to be a veterinarian?
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  Yeah, you have to have a DVM to be a vet. Which
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  I do not have. Well, okay. That's kind of what
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  I'm saying. That actually illustrates a better
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  point than what I was going to make. That's like
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  if someone DM'd you, Bree, and was like, so as
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  a veterinarian, can you come into my house? Just
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  a stranger on the internet says this. As a veterinarian,
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  I see you work at the local vet clinic. Can you
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  come into my house and check out my dog? Yeah.
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  I think he has blah, blah, blah. And I just wanted
• 21:43
  a good veterinarian to give me an opinion. This
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  is urgent. He needs to be taken care of in the
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  span of 30 minutes, even though typically a veterinarian,
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  even though you're not one, typically does this
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  in a five -hour shift. But I need this done in
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  30 minutes. Can you please do this tonight? Yeah.
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  Yeah. That is a very equivalent. Good example.
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  Also, like, that's fairly illegal, too. Yeah,
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  but, I mean, I'm sure some people would accept
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  that offer for the money. If you were desperate,
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  I guess. I guess if you're desperate enough,
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  but, like... You know, you probably, you have
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  a code. I know meds people have a code. You probably
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  have a veterinarian's code, or oath, don't you?
• 22:33
  Well, I don't have an oath. You don't have to
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  say an oath? No, I don't. You're not a doctor.
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  Yeah, I'm also not a doctor. Like, I don't, yeah.
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  I don't do things. Ben, did you think Brianna
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  was like an animal doctor this whole time you've
• 22:51
  known her? Is that why you put me down as the
• 22:55
  vet for Selene? Yeah, for my snake. For my snake,
• 22:58
  I'd have... We rescued a snake and they asked...
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  That's the only way to get Seleners if we knew
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  a veterinarian. And we didn't know one, so we
• 23:08
  had to come up with one on the spot. And Brianna,
• 23:11
  you were our fake veterinarian. It was real to
• 23:14
  me. I put down, yeah, we know a vet. Brianna
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  Shearer. No, but you want to know the sad truth?
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  What? You wear scrubs, aren't you? Does that
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  make you a doctor? No. Not at all, actually.
• 23:29
  Who else wears scrubs? Nurses. A lot of people,
• 23:32
  actually. Really? Yeah. People who work in weed
• 23:36
  facilities wear scrubs. Like, scrubs are a baseline
• 23:40
  work for anyone who is working in a sterile environment.
• 23:45
  I told you, this is probably the dumbest thing
• 23:50
  you've heard all day, that I thought that wearing
• 23:52
  scrubs to work made you a doctor. Yeah. This
• 23:56
  is just like shows that Ben did not go to school
• 23:58
  in like the medical field or has spent a good
• 24:02
  majority of his life in the hospital for whatever
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  issues. I was a journalism student that has good
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  health and was offered exorcism side gigs every
• 24:17
  week. I turned down because I didn't. This is
• 24:26
  very illuminating that I'm the dumbass that all
• 24:28
  these people are like, he's the guy I was messaging
• 24:30
  about coming to cure my demon issue. Brianna,
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  I feel like you could be... a veterinarian though
• 24:42
  i mean that is the goal like yeah but i feel
• 24:46
  like you could be one like right now you have
• 24:48
  so much knowledge about animals and stuff i'd
• 24:51
  be like i already view you as like someone who's
• 24:54
  like an expert with you know i think do you think
• 24:59
  we can clip this and you can add this to your
• 25:02
  veterinary uh submission letter like no transcript
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  can be your cover letter No. I can have the HR
• 25:11
  department write a letter of recommendation.
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  Oh, I think that would be a conflict of interest
• 25:17
  because I don't think I can write a letter of
• 25:19
  recommendation for myself. Ah, I see how that
• 25:23
  can brie an issue. Brie an issue. Yeah. Okay.
• 25:29
  Unfortunate brie. So, um... yeah this was a fun
• 25:38
  spontaneous episode any final thoughts on i think
• 25:41
  is this like one of the only episodes we all
• 25:44
  agree on the point and that's like we don't do
• 25:47
  residential cases yeah my question is ben are
• 25:52
  you going to reply to these people yeah i have
• 25:55
  like a standard reply that's like you know wait
• 25:58
  what is it i'm curious well i don't even know
• 26:01
  what you say to people it's not written out like
• 26:03
  as a template or whatever, but it's kind of what
• 26:05
  Brie was saying. It's just like, you know, hi,
• 26:08
  you know, unfortunately we don't do take on residential
• 26:12
  cases like that. We recommend reaching out to
• 26:15
  so -and -so and so -and -so, you know, there's
• 26:18
  a couple people I know do typically handle these
• 26:21
  things and have, you know, a more religious viewpoint
• 26:26
  and actually know what to say from that angle
• 26:28
  to potentially help a family. I recommend talking
• 26:33
  to these people and get on the phone with them
• 26:36
  and they can walk you through what's going on
• 26:39
  and yada, yada, yada. I see, I see. I see, I
• 26:45
  see. All right. So, actually, now I might just
• 26:52
  email them this or respond to them with this
• 26:54
  podcast. With this podcast? Yeah. But just imagine
• 27:02
  you're going to send them this response and then,
• 27:05
  like, I mean, obviously they, like, either follow
• 27:08
  the page or, like, they're familiar with the
• 27:10
  page. And in a couple, whenever we post this
• 27:14
  episode, they're going to see it and they're
• 27:17
  going to be like, this is a response to what
• 27:20
  we sent them, isn't it? Yeah. And it's going
• 27:23
  to be like. We get a lot of these messages. We
• 27:27
  get a lot of them. We just happen to get this
• 27:29
  one. Yeah, we just happened to get this one in
• 27:32
  the middle of setting up to record, and it was
• 27:35
  a very long message. Yeah. Yep. It's always the
• 27:43
  long ones. If it's someone that's just like,
• 27:45
  hey, do you do residential cases? It's like,
• 27:47
  no, I'm sorry. And they say, all right, thanks,
• 27:50
  figured I'd ask. But it's always these long ones.
• 27:53
  It's like, man, I don't even text my best friends
• 27:58
  this much. This is like, you know, what do they
• 28:02
  say? What's the news? They always change their
• 28:06
  minds. Should you trauma dump on a first date
• 28:09
  or no? That's what these people do. Would you
• 28:15
  trauma dump on a first date, Bri? No, I don't
• 28:19
  think I would. You know for a fact that if you
• 28:22
  go on a first date with one of these people who
• 28:25
  send a message like that, they... probably would
• 28:28
  trauma dump on the first date. You probably go
• 28:30
  to their house and they're probably going to
• 28:33
  trauma dump on you, honestly. So, on that note,
• 28:36
  anything else or can we just wrap this? We're
• 28:40
  good. We all agree for a change, so we just don't
• 28:45
  really know what else to say. That's where we're
• 28:49
  at. Okay. Adios, amigos. Bye. Bye. Thanks for
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