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- 1:14Speaker 1: And we're back with Branford Bulldog's head coach and Buffalo
- 1:17Speaker 1: Savers alumbus number seventy four, j McKee. Jay, really appreciate
- 1:20Speaker 1: you taking the time to do this. Obviously it's an
- 1:22Speaker 1: exciting time for your Bulldogs club as a head coach,
- 1:25Speaker 1: but obviously you know great things going on in Buffalo
- 1:28Speaker 1: as well right now. Just how excited are you to
- 1:30Speaker 1: kind of watch that from afar but also be an
- 1:33Speaker 1: exciting time for yourself personally.
- 1:35Speaker 3: We're excited here. Obviously, we've had some really high energy
- 1:38Speaker 3: practices and feel the guys are well prepared and I
- 1:42Speaker 3: think they've been waiting to get to the playoffs for
- 1:44Speaker 3: a while now, so they're all excited Buffalo. It's been
- 1:47Speaker 3: a treat to watch. Been a bit of a magical
- 1:50Speaker 3: season the way things have turned around. And you know,
- 1:53Speaker 3: I've made Buffalo the area home for the past eighteen years,
- 1:58Speaker 3: so I've seen the high and the lows, and and
- 2:01Speaker 3: the energy around the city, the fans. It's coming back again,
- 2:05Speaker 3: and it's it's like it was back in the old day.
- 2:07Speaker 3: So it's it's got to be fun for the players,
- 2:09Speaker 3: and I'm excited for him.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Talk about how special that was for you being able
- 2:13Speaker 1: to go back for that alumni night oh five oh six.
- 2:15Speaker 1: We know how special that team was. You know, if
- 2:17Speaker 1: they didn't get have a thousand injuries on the back end,
- 2:19Speaker 1: you might have beat Carolina in that series. But how
- 2:22Speaker 1: cool was it to reunite with some of those guys
- 2:24Speaker 1: throwing that black and red jersey again and just you know,
- 2:26Speaker 1: reminisce on some great times that you had in your
- 2:28Speaker 1: playing career.
- 2:29Speaker 3: It was special. You know, It's funny. I just said
- 2:31Speaker 3: I've been made it home for eighteen years. You reminded
- 2:33Speaker 3: me it's been longer than that. It's been twenty eight years.
- 2:35Speaker 3: So no, it's to see those guys. You know, you
- 2:40Speaker 3: play the game, you make really close relationships and friendships,
- 2:45Speaker 3: you know, and just when the game takes guys different ways.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Sure you stay in touch via text here there checking
- 2:51Speaker 3: on guys, but there's a lot of guys I hadn't
- 2:54Speaker 3: seen for a long long time, so it was it
- 2:57Speaker 3: was pretty special catching up the guys being there in
- 3:00Speaker 3: that moment, and you know, watching the Savers they just
- 3:03Speaker 3: started to go on their run there, and I think
- 3:06Speaker 3: that brought some excitement back to the fans. Seeing some
- 3:09Speaker 3: of the little clips, I know I felt it, and
- 3:11Speaker 3: seeing Danny Breer talk on the Jembotron, I think hit
- 3:13Speaker 3: home for a lot of the fans and the players.
- 3:16Speaker 3: It's been fun to watch.
- 3:17Speaker 1: For you personally, how cool has it been to see
- 3:19Speaker 1: Danny go on to become a general manager. Some of
- 3:22Speaker 1: those other guys you played with are in prominent positions
- 3:24Speaker 1: in the National Hockey League. Like when you look back
- 3:26Speaker 1: on that, you know, as a player, you might have thought,
- 3:28Speaker 1: you know, no way this guy's going to become that,
- 3:30Speaker 1: or maybe you thought that this guy might be a
- 3:31Speaker 1: general manager one day. Just seeing those guys that you
- 3:34Speaker 1: played with now in those other roles and everybody sort
- 3:37Speaker 1: of still involved in the game.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty amazing when you when you're a player,
- 3:41Speaker 3: you're just focused on playing and you live in the
- 3:43Speaker 3: moment and you're living your dream at that level. It's
- 3:47Speaker 3: not until you're a little bit later in your career.
- 3:49Speaker 3: For me, it was, you know, maybe in my last
- 3:51Speaker 3: two years that I started thinking about and asking questions
- 3:54Speaker 3: with the coaching staff about how they got into it,
- 3:57Speaker 3: how they felt about it, what they enjoyed and and
- 3:59Speaker 3: did you know, you don't think about, hey, is this
- 4:02Speaker 3: guy going to go? Is that kind of go? But
- 4:04Speaker 3: you know now that I think there's maybe seven former
- 4:07Speaker 3: teammates of mine that are GMS, and when I when
- 4:09Speaker 3: I sit back and think about their character traits and
- 4:12Speaker 3: the work ethic, and a lot of it's aligned. You know,
- 4:15Speaker 3: really really good leaders that were on teams that I
- 4:18Speaker 3: played for, and you know, I certainly wish them all success.
- 4:22Speaker 1: At what point in your career did you start to think, Okay,
- 4:25Speaker 1: maybe coaching is going to be something that I might
- 4:27Speaker 1: want to pursue. I know that you talked about wanting
- 4:29Speaker 1: to start in junior hockey instead of going right to
- 4:31Speaker 1: the pros. You obviously coached a lot in Niger University
- 4:34Speaker 1: arie Otters kitchen arrangers nowt here with Branford. So why
- 4:38Speaker 1: did you sort of choose to go to the coaching route,
- 4:40Speaker 1: And secondly, why did you choose to start in junior hockey.
- 4:43Speaker 3: When I my lot Well, I had a major injury
- 4:46Speaker 3: pelvic injury in Saint Louis my first year, and I
- 4:49Speaker 3: couldn't train my lower half or my abdominals for two
- 4:53Speaker 3: summers and I could feel myself slowing down in those
- 4:56Speaker 3: following two years. So that's when I started to think
- 4:58Speaker 3: about it. You know, I knew my my leash was
- 5:00Speaker 3: getting shorter, you know. And then the year that I
- 5:04Speaker 3: didn't sign after Pittsburgh, I skated with Niagara. Dave Burkholder
- 5:08Speaker 3: was my junior coach, and he allowed me to skate
- 5:11Speaker 3: with them to stake condition in case the contract came
- 5:14Speaker 3: later on. And then maybe a month or two into it,
- 5:17Speaker 3: he just asked, Hey, if you don't sign and you
- 5:19Speaker 3: want to get into coaching, we'd love to have you here.
- 5:22Speaker 3: So I I did that, worked with him as as
- 5:25Speaker 3: a volunteer, and and uh, you know, Dave's a guy
- 5:28Speaker 3: that mentored me as a as a young player in
- 5:30Speaker 3: this league. You know, he's a fantastic person and really
- 5:35Speaker 3: learned a lot from him as a player and then
- 5:36Speaker 3: as a coach, and then was able to move on
- 5:38Speaker 3: from there.
- 5:39Speaker 1: How were you able to, I guess, be relatable as
- 5:42Speaker 1: a coach because you played years in this league, Sudbury,
- 5:45Speaker 1: Niagara falls, things like that, Like you were first round
- 5:48Speaker 1: pick in the National Hockey League as well, so you
- 5:49Speaker 1: understand the pressures of of that comes with that as well.
- 5:52Speaker 1: So how do you think you're sort of relatable to
- 5:54Speaker 1: these players now and able to get the most out
- 5:56Speaker 1: of them.
- 5:57Speaker 3: I don't I don't talk about I don't like talking
- 6:00Speaker 3: about myself, so I don't talk about myself really with
- 6:02Speaker 3: the players. Maybe some funny stories here and there, but
- 6:05Speaker 3: I think there's naturally you can relate to them, building relationships,
- 6:10Speaker 3: having a sense of humor, letting them know you're human,
- 6:13Speaker 3: while also have in the authoritive elopment when the time
- 6:16Speaker 3: is right. I just think building relationships is the most
- 6:20Speaker 3: important thing, and building a connection to the players, and
- 6:24Speaker 3: you know, if they have questions about certain things that
- 6:26Speaker 3: obviously I have some experiences to draw on through my
- 6:31Speaker 3: history of playing in this league and spending time in
- 6:34Speaker 3: the HL and then playing in the NHL. You know,
- 6:37Speaker 3: I know as a former player, I would lean on
- 6:40Speaker 3: guys like that that had some experience for whether it's
- 6:43Speaker 3: life advice or hockey advice.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Talk about maybe some of those best leaders and I
- 6:50Speaker 1: guess coaches that you had that that helped maybe shape
- 6:53Speaker 1: how who you became as a leader and as a coach.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Like who were some of those those guys that you
- 6:57Speaker 1: looked up to and that you sort of tried to
- 6:58Speaker 1: take little bits and pieces of to use in your style.
- 7:01Speaker 3: Well, there was a lot of guys. I mean, I'm
- 7:03Speaker 3: very grateful to have learned as a player under a
- 7:06Speaker 3: lot of good coaches. Lindy Ruff obviously standing out. I
- 7:09Speaker 3: had him for nine years in Buffalo. Dan Baals might
- 7:13Speaker 3: just come off winning a Stanley Cup. You take different
- 7:16Speaker 3: things from each guy. Assistant coaches obviously, you know, can
- 7:20Speaker 3: be a little more personal. Back in the day and
- 7:22Speaker 3: age that I played, where it was coaching through intimidation
- 7:25Speaker 3: a little bit. So. Tony Gernado was fantastic, Bradshaw, Rick Walmsley.
- 7:30Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys, Scott Arneill too many really
- 7:35Speaker 3: to mention. Really grateful for all the help and advice
- 7:39Speaker 3: and development they all they all help provide me.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Was it nice to catch up with Lindy? Were able
- 7:45Speaker 1: to see him at the five or six alumni night?
- 7:47Speaker 1: And just you know, now that you become a coach yourself,
- 7:50Speaker 1: was it cool? Is it cool to see him back
- 7:52Speaker 1: now at the latter half of his career.
- 7:54Speaker 3: I didn't go back in the morning. We had practice here,
- 7:57Speaker 3: so I got there for a game time after they
- 7:59Speaker 3: had us out. I just skated over and shook his hand,
- 8:02Speaker 3: knowing that I was going to get out of there
- 8:04Speaker 3: quickly after because we had a three and three coming up.
- 8:06Speaker 3: So it would have been nice to stick around for
- 8:08Speaker 3: the festivities and talking with the guys, but obviously my
- 8:11Speaker 3: priority is here in Bradford.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Is it cool to see Lindy back with the team?
- 8:16Speaker 1: For obviously this resurgence and because when you think of
- 8:19Speaker 1: the Sabers, you think of a few small individuals probably
- 8:23Speaker 1: count them on one hand. I think Lindy rough would
- 8:25Speaker 1: be one of them.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Lindy, he's been doing it for a
- 8:28Speaker 3: long time now, He's had success and one of the
- 8:33Speaker 3: you know the best parts about coaching is you know
- 8:36Speaker 3: through your failures or struggles is where you have to
- 8:39Speaker 3: find solutions, and you know, I can't think of another
- 8:42Speaker 3: coach that he's coached for so long and been through
- 8:45Speaker 3: so many scenarios. If anyone's going to find a way
- 8:47Speaker 3: through the struggles that Buffalo is going through, it's certainly
- 8:50Speaker 3: a guy like Lindy. So, you know, I'm excited for
- 8:53Speaker 3: the organization, excited for him. You know, as a coach,
- 8:57Speaker 3: I could just imagine going through those early struggles and
- 9:00Speaker 3: finding a way to turn around that. The way that
- 9:02Speaker 3: they did is pretty special.
- 9:04Speaker 1: And you were there from nineteen ninety six to two
- 9:06Speaker 1: thousand and six, you know, favorite memories on and off
- 9:09Speaker 1: the ice. I know the ninety nine run was special,
- 9:10Speaker 1: going to the Cup final, and also that five six
- 9:13Speaker 1: team was very special as well. But as when you
- 9:15Speaker 1: look back at your time in Buffalo, is there a
- 9:18Speaker 1: couple of memories on and off the ice to stick
- 9:19Speaker 1: out to you?
- 9:21Speaker 3: There's so many memories. No, I don't think there's. Obviously
- 9:26Speaker 3: those you mentioned were special times in my playing career,
- 9:29Speaker 3: But it goes back to building relationships, you know, making
- 9:32Speaker 3: so many not just within the team, but the city
- 9:35Speaker 3: of Buffalo is it's a blue collar town. The restaurant owners,
- 9:39Speaker 3: the people you meet the security of the arena. There's
- 9:42Speaker 3: just so many good people that I've been blessed to
- 9:44Speaker 3: have crossed path with. And obviously you lose touch, like
- 9:47Speaker 3: I said, with a lot of them when you move on.
- 9:49Speaker 3: But I just really enjoyed my experience, my time in Buffalo.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Yeah, when you talk about I guess now with the
- 9:55Speaker 1: buzz coming back to the city and everything like that,
- 9:58Speaker 1: for I guess those younger fans that are younger than
- 10:00Speaker 1: us that maybe weren't around to experience what ninety nine
- 10:03Speaker 1: was like RO five or six or even six oh seven.
- 10:06Speaker 1: With the buzz coming back into the city. What can
- 10:08Speaker 1: you tell the fan base about how or even the players,
- 10:11Speaker 1: how exciting of and a special of a place is
- 10:13Speaker 1: Buffalo when you're winning.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Well, I have a thirteen year old son who plays
- 10:17Speaker 3: hockey and he hasn't seen a Buffalo Savers playoffs, So
- 10:20Speaker 3: it's it's exciting. I mean, the fans there, it's a
- 10:24Speaker 3: it's a true sports down. They love both you know,
- 10:26Speaker 3: all their sports teams. You know, you can see the
- 10:29Speaker 3: excitement building up, you know. I think everyone should just
- 10:32Speaker 3: buckle up for Game one the playoffs. For them at home,
- 10:34Speaker 3: it's going to be it's going to be electric. I've
- 10:36Speaker 3: seen it, I've felt the building shake, and it's going
- 10:39Speaker 3: to be special too. For the players that have been
- 10:41Speaker 3: there for an extended period of time that haven't been
- 10:44Speaker 3: a part of the experience, it's ahead of them. So
- 10:47Speaker 3: I'm a bit envious because I enjoyed it so much,
- 10:49Speaker 3: but I'm proud and excited for them.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Was it odd those first couple of times you went
- 10:54Speaker 1: back with Saint Louis and Pittsburgh as an away player
- 10:57Speaker 1: to go to Buffalo and sort of have the fans
- 10:59Speaker 1: get on you different ways.
- 11:01Speaker 3: It's very strange. Fortunately, I, you know, I had good
- 11:05Speaker 3: fans support there. They appreciated just guys that work hard
- 11:08Speaker 3: and block shots, and so they were. They were fair
- 11:11Speaker 3: to me when I returned. But it's unique going back
- 11:15Speaker 3: to a team that you played for for so long,
- 11:18Speaker 3: playing in that arena, it sort of feels surreal. It
- 11:21Speaker 3: feels like a game outside of the game. I don't
- 11:24Speaker 3: think I ever felt fully comfortable when as a player
- 11:27Speaker 3: playing there. I felt incredibly comfortable. So yeah, it's unique,
- 11:31Speaker 3: but it's something a lot of guys go through.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Was there a favorite jersey that you liked? Did you
- 11:37Speaker 1: like the black and red. Did you like the blue
- 11:38Speaker 1: and gold? Which one did you like better?
- 11:40Speaker 3: I wore the black and the black and red started
- 11:43Speaker 3: my first year and ended my last year, so I
- 11:45Speaker 3: wore the black and red throughout. I loved it. I
- 11:50Speaker 3: am a big fan though, of the classic blue and
- 11:53Speaker 3: goal that just I grew up watching, you know, hockey,
- 11:57Speaker 3: and those are the colors, and you know, so part
- 12:00Speaker 3: of the inspiration for me and and loving the sport
- 12:03Speaker 3: was seeing those jerseys, all the old school ones Minnesota
- 12:06Speaker 3: and North Stars, go back Gardiaks. You know, those those
- 12:09Speaker 3: old school jerseys when you see them just kind of
- 12:11Speaker 3: brings back old memories.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Spencer Hyman told me that he's looking forward to hopefully
- 12:15Speaker 1: having you show him a good wing spot in Buffalo
- 12:18Speaker 1: in the draft in June. Is there a favorite one
- 12:21Speaker 1: that when you're back in the city you like to
- 12:22Speaker 1: go to?
- 12:23Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I live in a small I'm outside
- 12:26Speaker 3: of the city about forty five minutes in a small
- 12:28Speaker 3: harbor town up by Lake Ontario. We've got Maddie's Barbecue Wing.
- 12:32Speaker 3: So I know I'm going to disappoint a lot of you.
- 12:34Speaker 3: There's there's way too many good wing places to pick one,
- 12:37Speaker 3: but it's my go to just up the road. Yeah.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I guess what would be one. I guess
- 12:43Speaker 1: common trend as a coach that you know you need
- 12:46Speaker 1: to be successful as far as is there one common
- 12:49Speaker 1: thing that you've seen from successful coach that you've had,
- 12:51Speaker 1: or coached against, or coached with within your your staff, Like,
- 12:54Speaker 1: is there one common trend that you really think that
- 12:56Speaker 1: you need to have as a head coach to be successful,
- 12:59Speaker 1: either at the junior level or the pro level.
- 13:02Speaker 3: I don't think there can be one common trait. I
- 13:05Speaker 3: think it's it's such an all encompassing position. You know,
- 13:10Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of relationships. Obviously I mentioned is
- 13:13Speaker 3: very important, but you know, the work ethic, the attention
- 13:16Speaker 3: to detail, the connection between your staff and the train
- 13:20Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much involved with being a head
- 13:23Speaker 3: coach that number one. Every head coach, I'm sure embraces
- 13:27Speaker 3: it's I'm not saying it's not fun, it's the best job.
- 13:30Speaker 3: It's not a job, but it's the best thing to
- 13:33Speaker 3: do in the world. But I couldn't point to one
- 13:36Speaker 3: specific trade because you look at all the different great
- 13:39Speaker 3: coaches that have coached in NHL history, and they're all
- 13:42Speaker 3: so different. You know, every coach that I had the
- 13:45Speaker 3: NHL very different personality, traits, detailed traits, the way they
- 13:51Speaker 3: press buttons or don't, So I couldn't pick one common denominator.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Just a quick few more questions for
- 13:59Speaker 1: Eja talking about this. This Branford team really looks like
- 14:03Speaker 1: it's gonna be a special season. You guys have high hopes,
- 14:05Speaker 1: high expectations from yourself and outside the pressures as well.
- 14:08Speaker 1: How are you sort of being able to keep that
- 14:11Speaker 1: those guys together focused and getting the number one seed
- 14:14Speaker 1: the Hamilton Spectator Trophy, being I guess the top dog,
- 14:16Speaker 1: so to speak, but knowing that you're going to get
- 14:18Speaker 1: the best everybody's best effort gaming and game out, getting
- 14:21Speaker 1: through the entire regular season and now heading into playoffs.
- 14:25Speaker 1: How have you been able to manage all the different
- 14:27Speaker 1: changes and all of the new players coming in and
- 14:29Speaker 1: out of the organization.
- 14:30Speaker 3: Well, adversity is part of a lead that leads to success.
- 14:34Speaker 3: You have to go through challenging things, whether it's injuries,
- 14:37Speaker 3: new players, new ownership, new staff. You know, we focus
- 14:41Speaker 3: one day at a time. I don't believe in pressure.
- 14:43Speaker 3: When you when you focus one day at a time.
- 14:47Speaker 3: You know, I'm greatful that fantastic staff alongside with me here.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Ownership is incredible and we have a great dressing room,
- 14:54Speaker 3: a great culture in the room. So you know, when
- 14:58Speaker 3: you go one day at a time, and as as
- 15:00Speaker 3: a coach, when you feel you have them very prepared,
- 15:03Speaker 3: You've got a strong room, you know, great execution, they connect.
- 15:11Speaker 3: I don't feel pressure, so I don't want our players
- 15:13Speaker 3: to as well. I feel when you go out there,
- 15:16Speaker 3: you're prepared, you give everything you have, You come in focused,
- 15:20Speaker 3: and you can as a team if each player can
- 15:22Speaker 3: look in the mirror after and say they were for focus, prepared,
- 15:25Speaker 3: gave their effort and their best performance possible on the ice,
- 15:28Speaker 3: it's not about wins and losses. To me, success as
- 15:33Speaker 3: a byproduct of just playing the right way and being prepared.
- 15:36Speaker 1: I guess how much did the ownership how much does
- 15:39Speaker 1: that play a factor in it as well? Obviously the Anlauers,
- 15:42Speaker 1: what they did for you and Hamilton moving to Branford
- 15:44Speaker 1: here and now with the Hyman family, how much has
- 15:47Speaker 1: that those relationships with those two ownership groups helped you,
- 15:51Speaker 1: you know, become the coach that you can and give
- 15:54Speaker 1: you all the resources possible to make this, you know,
- 15:57Speaker 1: such a sustainable or a winning organization.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Well, the transition was seamless. Both fantastic ownership groups. You know,
- 16:05Speaker 3: I believe leadership starts at the top, and that starts
- 16:08Speaker 3: with your ownership. Culture starts from the top, That begins
- 16:12Speaker 3: with ownership, and it filters its way on down. So
- 16:15Speaker 3: we're incredibly grateful here, very blessed you know Michael Anlauer
- 16:20Speaker 3: and what he did for this organization and bringing it
- 16:22Speaker 3: here and building this facility and providing what he did
- 16:26Speaker 3: for the organization was incredible. And obviously when you have
- 16:30Speaker 3: a couple of HL championships a show for as an owner,
- 16:33Speaker 3: you're doing things right. The Hymen group has been incredibly energetic,
- 16:37Speaker 3: incredibly passionate, and like I said, it's been a seamless transition.
- 16:42Speaker 3: They provide everything possible for these kids to have success.
- 16:47Speaker 3: We're in a we're in a spot I certainly.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Love being absolutely gonna have homeless advantage hopefully throughout the playoffs.
- 16:52Speaker 1: But I guess Jay, my last coaching related question for
- 16:55Speaker 1: you is, let's say tomorrow, just for whatever reason, you
- 16:57Speaker 1: decided to stop coaching, tomorrow was your last day of
- 17:00Speaker 1: of ever coaching a game. I don't want to put
- 17:02Speaker 1: that pressure on you, but you code, you know, over
- 17:04Speaker 1: three hundred wins in this league, two hundred with the
- 17:06Speaker 1: Bulldogs organization. How fulfilled and how just I guess happy
- 17:10Speaker 1: would you be with what you've been able to accomplish
- 17:14Speaker 1: after your your obviously successful playing career and now you
- 17:17Speaker 1: know as a coach, if you were to say, you
- 17:19Speaker 1: know what, I'll hang them up tomorrow, well.
- 17:21Speaker 3: I won't hang them up tomorrow. What I do, No,
- 17:25Speaker 3: I'm I'm very happy with my my my family. I
- 17:28Speaker 3: have a wonderful children, a wonderful wife, the relationships, like
- 17:32Speaker 3: I said, that I've built, you know, I'm I'm I'm
- 17:36Speaker 3: grateful for life. I'm looking forward tomorrow. You know. I
- 17:41Speaker 3: love this job and I certainly, like I said, I
- 17:44Speaker 3: won't be hanging them up. But I just feel very
- 17:46Speaker 3: fortunate for what the game has provided me and the
- 17:49Speaker 3: relationships that I've made. And I'll continue this as long
- 17:53Speaker 3: as they can.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Developmental league for the players and the coaches as well. Right,
- 17:56Speaker 1: you know, maybe taking that next step level or that
- 17:58Speaker 1: next level at some point to something and that maybe
- 18:00Speaker 1: you'd be interested down the road. But maybe with a
- 18:02Speaker 1: couple more rings on your fingers right with the bulldogs.
- 18:05Speaker 3: No, I, like I said, I love I love it here.
- 18:07Speaker 3: I love this job. My focus is here, and you
- 18:11Speaker 3: know we're obviously, whether you're a player or a coach,
- 18:15Speaker 3: you're in a sport where it's already taken me down
- 18:17Speaker 3: a number of different paths. And I don't know what
- 18:19Speaker 3: the future holds, but I do know how much I
- 18:22Speaker 3: enjoyed here right now.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Absolutely so. My last question for you, is there a
- 18:25Speaker 1: favorite Rick Geneet moments that you had with Rick or
- 18:29Speaker 1: in passing, or a favorite call that you had of his?
- 18:33Speaker 3: Oh so many good calls. No, you know what, I
- 18:36Speaker 3: think it wouldn't be one specific moment. For those who
- 18:40Speaker 3: knew Rick On on a personal level, just a really
- 18:44Speaker 3: kind hearted human being with an incredible sense of humor.
- 18:47Speaker 3: He had a different joke every day, and you know,
- 18:51Speaker 3: I don't think I ever saw him without a smile.
- 18:53Speaker 3: He was just lit up a room. He's a treat
- 18:55Speaker 3: to be around and grateful that I had the opportunity
- 18:59Speaker 3: to get to know him.
- 19:00Speaker 1: The message for the fans going down to our j
- 19:02Speaker 1: way now that it's called for those block parties and
- 19:04Speaker 1: everything that's hopefully going to come at the end of
- 19:07Speaker 1: April would be your message to the Sabers fans to
- 19:08Speaker 1: get ready for it.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Now, do you believe No, it's exciting to watch what
- 19:14Speaker 3: they're doing. I think the fans know, they can see it,
- 19:17Speaker 3: they can feel it, and I'm just excited for the
- 19:21Speaker 3: city they deserve. There's such a passionate fan base that
- 19:23Speaker 3: they deserve success.
- 19:26Speaker 1: Absolutely. There's j McKee, head coach of the Branford Bulldogs,
- 19:28Speaker 1: top seeded Brandford Bulldogs and obviously sid Buffalo Sabers alumnus
- 19:32Speaker 1: number seventy four. J really appreciate you doing this. I
- 19:34Speaker 1: know there's a lot of Sabers fans that still try
- 19:36Speaker 1: to keep up with you and are excited to see
- 19:38Speaker 1: your coaching career and then this success. You've had so
- 19:41Speaker 1: best of luck down the stretch and continued success here.
- 19:44Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate your time.
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- 20:39Speaker 2: we call what talking died in Bookay.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Here we call the boys and Blue light Boat.
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- 21:02Speaker 1: Here with the Vice president General manager of the Branford Bulldogs,
- 21:04Speaker 1: Spencer Higman. Spencer, really appreciate you taking the time to
- 21:06Speaker 1: do this right before an exciting, hopefully the playoff run
- 21:10Speaker 1: for the Bulldogs. Uh here doing a sit down with
- 21:13Speaker 1: obviously your head coach j McKee, great Sabers alumni as well.
- 21:17Speaker 1: You know, a lot a lot of a lot of
- 21:19Speaker 1: people look back on his playing days but his coaching
- 21:22Speaker 1: career has almost been as impressive. What has been I
- 21:25Speaker 1: guess the biggest thing getting to know j McKee over
- 21:27Speaker 1: the last two years.
- 21:29Speaker 5: Yeah, Jay's been Uh, he's been awesome. You know, obviously
- 21:32Speaker 5: just come into the league as a you know, a
- 21:35Speaker 5: new manager, you know, to have a veteran presence behind
- 21:39Speaker 5: the bench, a guy that you know has won a
- 21:42Speaker 5: championship at this level. You know, it could have asked
- 21:45Speaker 5: for a better guy to to be my coach.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so what what has sort of impressed you
- 21:50Speaker 1: about Jay getting to know him? Did you did you
- 21:52Speaker 1: have any prior knowledge of him, a relationship or or
- 21:55Speaker 1: anything like that, because I know the hockey world is
- 21:57Speaker 1: really small in that sense. So I guess what we
- 22:00Speaker 1: your first impressions when you got to see him as
- 22:02Speaker 1: a coach here.
- 22:03Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what like first impression like meeting Jay
- 22:07Speaker 5: is you know his first He's a great human being, right,
- 22:09Speaker 5: He's a great guy, very friendly.
- 22:12Speaker 6: You know, obviously I knew of Jay, you know, being
- 22:14Speaker 6: a you.
- 22:15Speaker 5: Know, long term NHL player and a veteran played I
- 22:17Speaker 5: think over eight hundred NHL games, which is you know, unbelievable.
- 22:20Speaker 5: And you know I watched the Savers two follow them.
- 22:22Speaker 5: I'm obviously being being close and you know it's uh,
- 22:28Speaker 5: it was great.
- 22:29Speaker 6: You know.
- 22:29Speaker 5: The one thing that I noticed through last year, you know,
- 22:32Speaker 5: down the stretch into playoffs.
- 22:34Speaker 6: You know, it's just a calmness on our bench. Uh.
- 22:36Speaker 5: You know, my dad always said to me the number
- 22:38Speaker 5: one trait that a coach will give your team as
- 22:40Speaker 5: his personality. A team will always take on the coach's
- 22:43Speaker 5: personality and very happy that they're taking on Jay's because
- 22:46Speaker 5: he's he's calm, He's still like he's humble.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Yeah, and what sort of makes him special as far
- 22:51Speaker 1: as like delegating how he deals with his assistants as
- 22:54Speaker 1: players the media, like how how how does his day
- 22:58Speaker 1: to day? How is that a reflection of what you
- 23:00Speaker 1: guys want from this organization?
- 23:02Speaker 6: Yeah, it's great.
- 23:02Speaker 5: I mean, like you know, for for for me, I
- 23:05Speaker 5: think the biggest thing is the managers empowering people in
- 23:07Speaker 5: your organization to do everything they can do to the
- 23:10Speaker 5: best of their ability and giving them responsibility. And that's
- 23:12Speaker 5: what I see from Jay. You know, Vince Lace runs
- 23:15Speaker 5: our power play, Ryan Kubert runs our penalty kill. Uh,
- 23:18Speaker 5: He's there to support them, but empowers them to to
- 23:22Speaker 5: take on the responsibility and to do a good job
- 23:24Speaker 5: with it, you know. So for for me, uh you know,
- 23:28Speaker 5: I think Jay's got a great staff here, you know,
- 23:31Speaker 5: and he's unbelievable leading them.
- 23:32Speaker 1: I guess what would what would be one thing that
- 23:34Speaker 1: general public wouldn't know about j McKee just about his personality,
- 23:37Speaker 1: how he carries himself, because I know, you know, in
- 23:39Speaker 1: front of the camera he tries to keep it low key,
- 23:42Speaker 1: and but I know he's got quite the personality off
- 23:44Speaker 1: the ice.
- 23:44Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a big kid, you know, and uh, you know,
- 23:47Speaker 5: at times probably you think he's still playing, right, but
- 23:49Speaker 5: you know, he he's just a great, great person. Uh
- 23:53Speaker 5: you know, you see him with his with his kids
- 23:54Speaker 5: and they come into the building. He's a great father,
- 23:57Speaker 5: you know, and and just a guy that you know,
- 24:00Speaker 5: you're really.
- 24:01Speaker 6: Excited for for these boys to get to.
- 24:03Speaker 5: Work from, you know, not just on the ice, but
- 24:05Speaker 5: off the ice. And for us, it's it's it's an
- 24:08Speaker 5: honor that he's our head coach.
- 24:09Speaker 1: I guess that that's another thing, right because when you're
- 24:12Speaker 1: you're such a successful coach at a at a developmental level.
- 24:15Speaker 1: I know he might have had some looks in the
- 24:17Speaker 1: past for for pro jobs and things like that, but
- 24:20Speaker 1: he stayed here in Branford. You know, if that does
- 24:22Speaker 1: happen eventually down the road, just how happy would you
- 24:24Speaker 1: be for him in that scenario to be able to
- 24:27Speaker 1: obviously grow as a as a as a coach as well,
- 24:29Speaker 1: just like the players.
- 24:30Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean I don't want to lose him, obviously,
- 24:32Speaker 5: but but I also you know, understand that the OHL's
- 24:36Speaker 5: Development League and when you're a player, a coach, a manager,
- 24:40Speaker 5: you know, working in the business staff, equipment, staff, trainers, medical,
- 24:45Speaker 5: you're developing to try and get to a higher level.
- 24:47Speaker 6: And I think Jay is ready.
- 24:50Speaker 5: You know, at the end of the day, we want
- 24:52Speaker 5: the best not all for our players, but for our staff,
- 24:54Speaker 5: and you know, there's no question he's ready to be
- 24:56Speaker 5: an NHL head coach.
- 24:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Just how special was that to see him rec regnized
- 25:00Speaker 1: that the five or six alumni night, putting on that
- 25:02Speaker 1: black and red seventy four McKey jersey again and just
- 25:06Speaker 1: seeing him, you know, sort of reflect on his playing
- 25:09Speaker 1: career and be recognized for what was a special team
- 25:12Speaker 1: at that time. And then maybe for him to just
- 25:15Speaker 1: be recognized in Buffalo for all those great years he had.
- 25:18Speaker 5: Yeah, it's awesome. You know, I know that night meant
- 25:21Speaker 5: a lot to him. You know, I think it's more
- 25:24Speaker 5: seeing your old buddies and teammates and guys you went to.
- 25:26Speaker 6: Battle with and war with.
- 25:27Speaker 5: And you know, I think when you're a part of
- 25:30Speaker 5: a hockey team, you really understand that and you know,
- 25:32Speaker 5: getting to get back together with them, and you know,
- 25:34Speaker 5: in Buffalo, especially with the year that the Savers are having,
- 25:37Speaker 5: it's pretty cool, right, So we're excited for him. I
- 25:40Speaker 5: know it's great to watch that and see him, you know,
- 25:43Speaker 5: have success there.
- 25:44Speaker 1: How is he sort of made the team better every day,
- 25:46Speaker 1: managed and navigated through a lot of the changes. Obviously
- 25:49Speaker 1: you went out and acquired a lot of top end
- 25:51Speaker 1: players and trying to put everybody together, fit the pieces
- 25:54Speaker 1: of the puzzle together in the best way. How do
- 25:56Speaker 1: you think he sort of went about that as the
- 25:57Speaker 1: season's gone on, a lot of new players in and
- 26:00Speaker 1: and sort of tried to put it all together to
- 26:02Speaker 1: try to be a championship winning team.
- 26:03Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 26:04Speaker 5: I said this actually yesterday to someone. But I don't
- 26:08Speaker 5: know if we go all in if Jay's not our
- 26:10Speaker 5: head coach. You know, I think our roster was ready.
- 26:15Speaker 5: You know, we had a lot of draft capital and
- 26:17Speaker 5: a really good core coming back. But at the same time,
- 26:20Speaker 5: as my dad always says, you can have a Ferrari,
- 26:22Speaker 5: but if you can't drive stick and then the car
- 26:24Speaker 5: doesn't go anywhere, you know. So we've got great players,
- 26:27Speaker 5: but a coach really molds the team. And I think
- 26:29Speaker 5: Jay's don an unbelievable job. And I'd argue that it's
- 26:32Speaker 5: harder to coach a team, you know, with this much
- 26:35Speaker 5: talent in the sense of managing people, you know, and
- 26:38Speaker 5: that's what a coach does. He manages people and expectations,
- 26:42Speaker 5: you know, than it is to just throw over three
- 26:44Speaker 5: of your best players over the boards, right, So more fun,
- 26:48Speaker 5: I would say, you know, But at the same time,
- 26:49Speaker 5: it's it's not an easy job, and he's an unbelievable,
- 26:53Speaker 5: unbelievable job.
- 26:54Speaker 1: This year, and just talk about like that team cohesiveness,
- 26:57Speaker 1: team success for the betterment of the organization and things
- 27:00Speaker 1: like that. Like when you've got so many top end
- 27:02Speaker 1: players getting them to buy in, it's sort of like
- 27:05Speaker 1: like you see at a tournament like a World Juniors,
- 27:08Speaker 1: where you have such great players, but it's fitting them
- 27:10Speaker 1: all together. What do you think makes this hit, this
- 27:12Speaker 1: group special that Jay has and then trying to put
- 27:15Speaker 1: together that best lineup card to have you guys go
- 27:17Speaker 1: far this year.
- 27:18Speaker 5: Well, you know I mentioned it you know as well before.
- 27:21Speaker 5: But but you know, when you have a first round
- 27:23Speaker 5: NHL player in the OHL, they've really accomplished everything they
- 27:26Speaker 5: need to as an individual, you know, you have to
- 27:29Speaker 5: be a first round pick. You've likely had great statistics
- 27:34Speaker 5: throughout your time in the OHL. You've had tremendous success
- 27:37Speaker 5: as a player on the ice, but that doesn't mean
- 27:38Speaker 5: you've had team success. You know, speaking to a lot
- 27:40Speaker 5: of different people in the NHL, their expectation, what they
- 27:44Speaker 5: like to see happen for a lot of their players
- 27:45Speaker 5: is success and winning because knowing how to win, you know,
- 27:50Speaker 5: is not easy. It's something you have to learn going
- 27:53Speaker 5: through a run. And that's why going back to you know,
- 27:56Speaker 5: college hockey versus the HL, and both are great paths
- 27:59Speaker 5: if you go from the CHL to pro or you
- 28:01Speaker 5: go college hockey from HL so holod hockey to pro.
- 28:03Speaker 5: But the one thing the HL has is the NHL
- 28:06Speaker 5: teams look at these guys are going through a sixty
- 28:08Speaker 5: eight game schedule and then they're going through a four
- 28:10Speaker 5: round war to win ultimately the Robinson Robertson Cup.
- 28:14Speaker 6: So learning how to wins incredibly important.
- 28:16Speaker 5: And you know, I think for our guys here, Jay's
- 28:19Speaker 5: you know, again, he's always saying, we just have to
- 28:22Speaker 5: play the right way, and you play the right way,
- 28:24Speaker 5: wins will come, and he's bang on.
- 28:26Speaker 1: And lastly, I guess, you know, if Jay were to
- 28:28Speaker 1: stop coaching tomorrow for whatever reason, he's got three hundred,
- 28:31Speaker 1: over three hundred wins in this league, over two hundred
- 28:33Speaker 1: with the Bulldogs organization, what do you think, I guess
- 28:36Speaker 1: in a few words, the lasting legacy that Jay would
- 28:38Speaker 1: have on this organization.
- 28:39Speaker 5: Well, I think he's far and away the best coach
- 28:42Speaker 5: that the Bulldogs have ever had. You know, I think
- 28:46Speaker 5: he's already cemented his legacy within this franchise. You know,
- 28:49Speaker 5: I know he wants to complete the ultimate goal for
- 28:51Speaker 5: for for our team and for you know, his his career,
- 28:54Speaker 5: and really more so for our players, because I know
- 28:57Speaker 5: that's how he thinks.
- 28:59Speaker 6: You know.
- 29:00Speaker 5: But I think Jay's a special coach. I think he's
- 29:04Speaker 5: more than deserving to be at the next level. Uh
- 29:07Speaker 5: And I know he's gonna, you know, go on his
- 29:09Speaker 5: terms and in a great organization and spot.
- 29:11Speaker 6: That's great for him. But you know, if not, you know,
- 29:14Speaker 6: next year, we'd we'd be very happy.
- 29:17Speaker 5: I would say to get him back if we could so,
- 29:20Speaker 5: but I know he's got a lot of business and
- 29:21Speaker 5: he wants to accomplished this spring first and and then
- 29:23Speaker 5: we'll take it from there.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Is he maybe gonna show you a Buffalo wing place
- 29:26Speaker 1: at the draft in Buffalo this year?
- 29:28Speaker 5: Well we actually went, uh we went last year for
- 29:31Speaker 5: the combine and that's where we met without Adam Bannock
- 29:33Speaker 5: and went to a nice restaurant there.
- 29:35Speaker 6: So you know, Buffalo, Buffalo is a great city.
- 29:37Speaker 5: Like it's got lots of great restaurants and especially in
- 29:40Speaker 5: summer with the water and everything like that. I think
- 29:42Speaker 5: it's one of the hidden gems and in the States,
- 29:45Speaker 5: and it takes a lot of unnecessary flak for no reason.
- 29:48Speaker 5: But you see what's happening with the Sabers this year,
- 29:51Speaker 5: like what a what a what a team, what a franchise,
- 29:54Speaker 5: And you know, like I said, it's a special hockey community.
- 29:57Speaker 6: So the great fans, best fans absolutely.
- 30:00Speaker 1: The vice president and general manager of the Branford Bulldog
- 30:02Speaker 1: Spencer him and Spencer. Really appreciate you welcoming us in
- 30:05Speaker 1: today for this special interview, and and best of luck
- 30:08Speaker 1: to the Bulldogs down the stretch here and hopefully going
- 30:11Speaker 1: going pretty far. And uh, you know obviously with Jay
- 30:13Speaker 1: at the helm.
- 30:14Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate Brian, thank you very much.
- 30:15Speaker 1: You're listening to the Armchair GM Sports Network