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The Acolyte Canceled, Edge of Balance Vol. 3 Review - Episode CCII · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to another episode of Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: lines your home on Geeklesalliance Podcast Network for any n oh,
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  Speaker 2: thanks Star Wars. I'm your host as always Katie and
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  Speaker 2: with me as previewed. Even though the technical wizards of
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  Speaker 2: the universe did not want us to talk about this,
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  Speaker 2: apparently it's Clay, Clay, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty good. Let's hope whatever happened is only
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  Speaker 3: going to happen then and not in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: the episode like it did last week. Speaking of last week,
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember if I cut that out or not.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't usually listen back to our episode because
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  Speaker 3: I don't like to listen to myself talk. So, uh,
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  Speaker 3: if anybody would like to, you know, harp on how
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  Speaker 3: bad my editing skills are, you can totally do that
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  Speaker 3: and let me know. But we're not here alone.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we've got contributor to But why though, the one
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  Speaker 2: and only Adrian himself Adrian, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Clay asked me this when we started, and I'm kind
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  Speaker 4: of torn because, like I'm currently playing, uh, Star Wars
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  Speaker 4: Outlaws for content for but why though? But I'm also
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  Speaker 4: like very upset this more as as time goes on
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  Speaker 4: for the Acolyte. But other than like Star Wars stuff
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  Speaker 4: being crazy, everything's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really good, all right, y'all. But yes, if
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  Speaker 2: you have seen the title, the Acolyte was in fact canceled,
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  Speaker 2: the first of its kind for Disney Plus. But we're
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  Speaker 2: here to talk about that. We're here to talk about
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  Speaker 2: Edge of Balance volume three today, So oh, buckalo your seatbelts,
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  Speaker 2: because I know for a fact the disclaimer here is
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  Speaker 2: is that we are all upset by the Accolade being canceled,
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  Speaker 2: point blank. So if you're here to talk about why
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  Speaker 2: you're happy the Accolade has been canceled, maybe this isn't
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  Speaker 2: the show for you. I just want to let you
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  Speaker 2: know that immediately controls will be plocked. So we got
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  Speaker 2: that disclaimer out of the way. So Clay, why don't
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  Speaker 2: you walk us into this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, I'm gonna be referencing something that
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  Speaker 3: not a whole lot of people are gonna know because
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  Speaker 3: it is a inside joke with the geek Verse and
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  Speaker 3: Gua crew. But I got a notification on my phone
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  Speaker 3: from I believe it was oh gosh, maybe deadline maybe
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  Speaker 3: Hollywood reporter. I can't remember who it was. I think
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  Speaker 3: it was in fact deadline on Twitter, and the first
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  Speaker 3: thing I saw was breaking Acolyte, and my heart immediately
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  Speaker 3: sank to my gut. I opened the notification, I saw
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  Speaker 3: that it was canceled, and I was gonna share it
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  Speaker 3: to our gua chat, and then I saw that Travis
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  Speaker 3: had already shared it, and I was like, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: getting flash meaned today, so I am not going to
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  Speaker 3: share it. Flash meaned is we continuously harp on each
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  Speaker 3: other for double posting news all over our chat, and
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  Speaker 3: we use the CW flash gift as a meme to
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  Speaker 3: one another, like, hey, you need to be faster next
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  Speaker 3: time if you want to post or share. So that's
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  Speaker 3: what that means. But yeah, immediately after the news broke,
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  Speaker 3: there was so much coming into Twitter, as far as fans, trolls,
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  Speaker 3: other news sites putting their opinions on Acolyte was trending
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  Speaker 3: in like four different categories on my Space of Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: So a hat my Space Twitter. Sorry, I had to
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  Speaker 3: follow that rabbit. So I know that there is a
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  Speaker 3: lot of feedback from this news. I am very angry
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  Speaker 3: at this information and this breaking news. To the point.
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  Speaker 5: Where you know, I, I immediately start to go towards
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  Speaker 5: the absolute negative, which is probably not healthy for me,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Why would they do this? Of course the biggest yelling
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  Speaker 3: into the void for a lot of US fans. And
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  Speaker 3: I know, Adrian, you added your two cents into this,
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  Speaker 3: and I do genuinely believe there is some truth to this.
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  Speaker 3: Others may believe it's not, but the trolls one the
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  Speaker 3: negativity of the review bombing before episode airs episodes aired,
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  Speaker 3: the hate over so many different aspects of the show,
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  Speaker 3: not only via Star Wars content, but the subject matter,
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  Speaker 3: the actors, everything influence this decision. I don't care what
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  Speaker 3: argument you have. It influenced the decision. It may not
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  Speaker 3: be the final decision maker, but it did influence it.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think that's okay, that's my opinion. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I immediately went to the negative and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's just so happens that, you know, the only Star
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  Speaker 3: Wars related content to have the official canceled title to
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  Speaker 3: it is probably one of the most diverse shows because
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  Speaker 3: it heavily had not only humanoid characters in there, but
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  Speaker 3: alien species and all of these other things, and I
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  Speaker 3: immediately didn't like that. People of color of course being
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  Speaker 3: a big importance to this project as well.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, people but also sexually different like LGBTQ members as.
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  Speaker 3: Well, exactly, Like, yeah, the.
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  Speaker 2: One show that has the majority cast in that direction,
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  Speaker 2: and you're gonna slap the canceled tag on it.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a great look.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's it's not. And I said on Twitter, and again,
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  Speaker 3: people can say that I'm being hyperbolic or whatever, but
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  Speaker 3: like I tweeted out, the Disney executives can now use
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  Speaker 3: the excuse of viewing numbers to say, oh, it's canceled,
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  Speaker 3: but everything else is still out there, you know, to
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  Speaker 3: show proof of that may not be the only reason why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Adrian, tell us your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think you're right. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: the people can say whatever. They can blame the viewing numbers,
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  Speaker 4: they can blame the writing, they can blame whatever. But
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  Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, anyone who
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  Speaker 4: thinks that the Acolyte is deserving of an eighteen percent
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  Speaker 4: or fourteen percent when it started on Rotten Tomatoes is
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  Speaker 4: just wrong. I think, like, just there's just no way
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  Speaker 4: there's just you think of like the worst movie you've
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  Speaker 4: ever seen, and this this, or like the worst show
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  Speaker 4: you've ever seen it, like this is on par with that,
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  Speaker 4: regardless of like your opinions on like the length of
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  Speaker 4: the episodes, the pacing, those things that I think are
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  Speaker 4: legitimate concerns. It was overheted from the start, three times
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  Speaker 4: as many reviews as The Mandalorian before episode three is over,
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  Speaker 4: with hundreds of reviews each week before the episodes even air,
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  Speaker 4: when we all know that they weren't even doing screeners
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  Speaker 4: after episode four, So how are these people writing reviews
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  Speaker 4: and things like that? So it's definitely an executive I
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  Speaker 4: think it's just an executive decision, and an easy executive
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  Speaker 4: decision to can this and put money somewhere else when
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  Speaker 4: there was obviously a strong group and the fandom who
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  Speaker 4: was enjoying the show, or at the very least liked
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  Speaker 4: it enough to see, Okay, well, maybe let's see where
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  Speaker 4: this is going. Maybe you didn't love it, but at
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  Speaker 4: least liked it enough to be like, okay, let's see.
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  Speaker 4: Lightsaber fights were cool. You know, you know there's good
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  Speaker 4: things to say, and you don't have good things to
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  Speaker 4: say even if it's just Lightsaber Fights, even for all
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  Speaker 4: of these people who are who hated on it for
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  Speaker 4: for two months straight still like the Lightsaber Fights that's
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  Speaker 4: on an eighteen percent fourteen percent Rotten Tomatoes show. For me,
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  Speaker 4: that's clear victim of the review bombing and just all
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  Speaker 4: just spineless cowardice executive behavior to be to point to that,
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  Speaker 4: I know all the articles pointed to like viewership numbers
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  Speaker 4: and ratings. Okay, well ratings non factor for me. Non
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  Speaker 4: factor for me because you have all of these reviews
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  Speaker 4: coming in for this show that everybody hated. That's that's
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  Speaker 4: more hated than in Love. Then it's more hated than
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  Speaker 4: loved than three seasons of the Mandalorian, Like does that
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  Speaker 4: make any sense to anybody? And to to say that
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  Speaker 4: like it's, oh, it's a businesses sand Disney needs to
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  Speaker 4: save money. The one point, what one hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 4: three billion dollar company can't make content that was clearly
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  Speaker 4: enjoyed by a portion of the fandom to the point
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  Speaker 4: where they're sending out merchandise and all of these things
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  Speaker 4: on Twitter and doing all and bringing in the actors
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  Speaker 4: to you know, to give their love to the fans,
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  Speaker 4: like with the Fiord after the fact, or bringing in
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  Speaker 4: you know, Manny on d twenty three, to bring him
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  Speaker 4: on stage to do all of these things. It's it
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  Speaker 4: feels like an incredibly just selfish and just money hungry decision.
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  Speaker 4: And then to take all the stuff off the the
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  Speaker 4: online store as well, like go buy a physical DVD
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  Speaker 4: of this because I feel like they're about to scrub it.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like they're about to scrub it because of
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  Speaker 4: the hate that it got man and it just it
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  Speaker 4: just feels really like like have we learned nothing from
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  Speaker 4: the prequels? Have we learned nothing from the Obi Wan show?
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  Speaker 4: Have we learned nothing from like any of these things?
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  Speaker 4: Like why are we making them happy? You know, like
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  Speaker 4: why are we making like the worst parts of the
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  Speaker 4: fandom happy? And if you say money, then like why
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  Speaker 4: are you even making arts? Or like why are you
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  Speaker 4: even doing this in the first place? Just don't make
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  Speaker 4: anything new? Then just stop doing it, because what else
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  Speaker 4: are we doing? We can't we can't, we can't go
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  Speaker 4: to a new era. Apparently we can't have a predominantly
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  Speaker 4: you know, person of color casts with multiple me because
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  Speaker 4: if honestly, I wasn't even like a part of the
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  Speaker 4: thing and my thing like if you see lesbians on
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  Speaker 4: screen and you're like, oh, woll agenda, then you shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: have been watching this in the first place, or you
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  Speaker 4: just need to like go back to school. It just
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  Speaker 4: makes me very angry. Just just just make all this
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  Speaker 4: makes me very angry that we're here, that we're here,
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  Speaker 4: and that they won, and that people are happy about it.
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  Speaker 4: You're happy people don't have jobs, You're happy that, Like
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  Speaker 4: people you know might be sad, like like, why would
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  Speaker 4: that make you happy? It's just it's just weird old
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  Speaker 4: behavior to me, and it sucks that even now, like
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: Amandala Stolmberg is still getting hate, you know, we're still
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: getting hate after the fact going back to her old
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  Speaker 4: Instagram photos just to be like ha ha ha, Like
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  Speaker 4: it's just weird o behavior. It's weird behavior, chronically online behavior,
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  Speaker 4: and it makes it really hard to be excited for
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  Speaker 4: anything else that's coming up. Makes it makes it hard
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  Speaker 4: to be a side for the Skeleton Crew, makes it
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  Speaker 4: hard for me to even be excited about Star Wars Outlaws.
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  Speaker 4: I don't evening I'm gonna be talking about with people
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  Speaker 4: online because people are gonna hate it. For a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the same reasons they're gonna hate They hated the
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  Speaker 4: Acolyte and the same a lot of the same reasons
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  Speaker 4: why they hated Ahsoka. The only difference is that those
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  Speaker 4: things were already approved for season two and went through
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  Speaker 4: And so that's the only reason why it's like it
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  Speaker 4: feels like it's absolved from the conversation. And I had
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: people on TikTok talking about, like, oh what and Or
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  Speaker 4: got approved for season two because it had a good story.
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  Speaker 4: Now Andrew got a proof for season two and was
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: already in pre production, just the same way that The
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: act Light was reportedly now in pre production in February.
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  Speaker 4: But what what's the two biggest difference between those two shows?
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  Speaker 4: One got review bombed and has a much lower rating
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  Speaker 4: because people hated it for bigoted reasons, and the other
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  Speaker 4: one is in the Skywalker saga, and you know that's
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  Speaker 4: sacred and we'll just just stay in that sixty seven
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  Speaker 4: year time period forever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The idea that this studio, because I've been saying
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  Speaker 2: it for a while, even when it boils down to
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  Speaker 2: like Marvel stuff with like the Eternals not pushing forward
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  Speaker 2: with the second movie, Studios executives are chickens, point blank,
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  Speaker 2: they're chickens. And in today's day and age you have,
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  Speaker 2: you can justify it by saying, well, it didn't trend daily. Like, no,
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  Speaker 2: nothing's ever going to trend daily, not when you're competing
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  Speaker 2: with a bunch of different streamers. Plus there's still cable
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  Speaker 2: TV out there, like lots of different stuff is gonna trend.
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  Speaker 2: Like we said this with the Book of Bo Buffet,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not saying this with the Acolyte, because I
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: consider the Accolyte leaps and bounds above Book Abob Buffet.
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  Speaker 2: But not every show has to be good, like or
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  Speaker 2: not every show has to be perfect. Not every show
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  Speaker 2: has to be great. Like I thought it was great,
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: but if you didn't think it was great, that's okay. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you just thought it was good, that's fine. But like,
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  Speaker 2: the idea that studios have to put out perfection one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent of the time is bullshit. It's absolute bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: There's no need for it. And like y'all have talked
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  Speaker 2: about already, the diversity with this show, like is like
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  Speaker 2: a big factor to me, I think, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people like hating it. But then like that's why, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people hated it. It didn't match their
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  Speaker 2: boyhood idea of Star Wars. So let's go ahead and
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: just drop the hammer and like, let's just cancel it.
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  Speaker 2: Like this show with diverse and it was sexy. It
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  Speaker 2: was not standard Star Wars. It was it hit like
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  Speaker 2: that like romanticy vibe with it. Like I'm telling you,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: like from what I've seen a book talk in Bookstagram,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: they're all behind the times by like six months. But
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: if this show had been marketed towards book talk and
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: books to gram, this would have picked up.
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  Speaker 4: Steve, Like, I have friends who don't watch Star Wars.
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  Speaker 4: Saw saw me post you know, memes of of the
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: you know, of the of the scenes, and they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I need to watch it now, and then went and
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  Speaker 4: watched it, like so where is the Where's like that
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: this thing can't bring in new fans when you can
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: live you have them, You have them. Why are we
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: appeasing these boy keep And I'll say, and I'll just
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: straight up say that it's like manchild because I post
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  Speaker 4: on Instagram almost every day almost, you know, every day
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  Speaker 4: during this time and ninety nine point nine, I won't
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  Speaker 4: even think unless like they're you know, hiding behind like
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: the picture. Almost all of them were dudes saying the
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: same same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Was with your with your TikTok Adrian like you. The
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: comments on there were a majority men. And my my
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: big thing is where Katie went with her points of view.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I told a friend of mine at work today because
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: he's only seen I think one or two episodes, and
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: he was like, hey, it's not really grabbing my attention,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: but he's a Star Wars fan. He loves Clone Wars.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, the overall concept of the show. I
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: really liked the concept and the ideas. I like how
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: it ended. You know, maybe you will only watch two
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  Speaker 3: episodes every other week or whatever, but I urge you
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  Speaker 3: to finish it. And I told him today, I was like, hey,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: you know, you may not have a chance to watch
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  Speaker 3: the rest of it if this indeed happens. It got canceled.
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  Speaker 3: And I told him all the drama and stuff, and
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I told him the idea that every single show, just
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: like Katie said, has to produce millions, if not billions,
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  Speaker 3: of views and dollars. Studios find it a waste of time.
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  Speaker 3: I think that is crap because the conversation that me
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: and Katie have been having for several weeks. Now, is
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: it is okay to be just okay? Because there are
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: so many different aspects of opinions out there, it's very
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: rare that you're going to have the epitome of you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: perfection in every single project. Are and you brought up
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: and Or and Or Travis Snell a part of geek Verse,
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  Speaker 3: and the guah you know told us, hey, you know
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: and Or, and I've seen this also being flooded through
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Twitter as well. Andrew was one of those projects that
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, this is going to be a premiere
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: show on Disney Plus.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a part of that wave in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: that was like, hey, you know, we're pushing all of
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  Speaker 3: this content on our brand new streaming service. Da da
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: da dah. You know, really just pushing all of the
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: content out there because again a lot of people were thinking, hey,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: movies are in danger. TV is the way to go,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: and or if you guys remember or two episodes in
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: people were like, oh, you know, viewership is not great.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: You guys really need to like word of mouth, tell
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: your parents, tell your grandparents, Da da. And then halfway
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: through it, we were saying oh, the first three episodes
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: of and Or are coming out on ABC Family or
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: whatever it's called now, right, so it was being pushed
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: to other channels, and I even think FX at one
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  Speaker 3: point held the first two episodes. So again there there's
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: like this idea of like, oh, well, Gilroy saved Rogue
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  Speaker 3: one back in the day, so he kind of got
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: his chance to keep you know, and Or, Well, Katie
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: reminded us in the GUA. And Or got announced announced
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  Speaker 3: with five seasons, and now I think and Or season
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  Speaker 3: two is going to be the end.
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  Speaker 4: Said They said today that that and Or season two
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: will end with the beginning of Rogue one for Pascian.
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  Speaker 4: So it's it, So what are we even doing?
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  Speaker 3: Like what do we like?
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  Speaker 4: Look, I love and Or Or, Like what are we doing?
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  Speaker 4: Like we reduced doing a couple of days a couple
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  Speaker 4: a year before and Or Or like a year before
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  Speaker 4: Rogue one, Like that's the stories that were like I
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: can't wait, like you don't want to go see other stuff? Man?
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  Speaker 4: I love and Or. But the more that like the
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: the strays that Ah Soka or Soca and act like
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: get because they held and Or as like I just
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I think because Andy serkis is episode More than anything,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: it feels like like like as because what is it?
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  Speaker 4: What is it saying? Like what is the story saying
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  Speaker 4: that the original trilogy doesn't or like I just don't.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't understand like why we're so or why
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: the fandom is so like, oh, you know, it should
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: have just should have been as good as and or
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I'm like good good as and or how how is
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: it as like what makes or so much better? That
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: it was like gritty people's getting next chopped in the
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Acolyte because it focused on other characters. You have characters
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: that don't what it ever heard of before in this
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: other thing. Ah man, it's just so frustrating. It's just
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: so frustrating, and especially because, like like you said, Katie,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: it was going to be longer and then they cut it,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: and but now we'res like, oh, we're happy with season two.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: We're happy that that's all we're getting. And it's just
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: such a weird thing to be happy that we're only
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: going to get two seasons.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: S Bob says, wasn't it Tony Gilroy's choice to make
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: it two seasons instead of five? It came out like that,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: s Bob's, but it definitely seemed like it was a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: higher up decision with the quote that he.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Said all of a sudden as well when the announcement came,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: because it was like what happened to the five seasons?
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Like you don't just announce something as five scenes and
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: be like, maybe we could do it in two, you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: especially in a world that wants content, content, content, you know, uh,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you know. We I feel like we as a people
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: in trying to grasp entertainment and everything else. We look
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: at Netflix and we're like, oh, the godfather of streaming,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: and we saw the amount of stuff that they've pushed,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: and we've seen them acts things all the time. They
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: are a studio that has just only in the most
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: recent years of like five years, have started to pick
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: up their own content, and even that is ending. Whereas
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: this is Disney some may say, like marketing King Genius
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Disney and the decisions they make with some of the
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: most iconic eyeps such as Lucasfilm, I can't comprehend sometimes
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: how these decisions are made with such a popular ip
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: as this. All in the Game says, what are the
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: odds of ACTLYTE being canceled if Felony had been the
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: show owner as opposed to Headlin.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I appreciate this question because I wanted to actually bring
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: this up all in the game.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because this is this is a part of the
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: conversation as well that we had in the g way.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: So Katie, why don't you go ahead and and push
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: that forward.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if Filony, for those of y'all listening who
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: don't know, is the creative director of Lucasfilm, He's basically
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the Kevin Fagy of Lucasfilm. And I did not like
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: that decision when it was made. I think Feloni tells
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: pretty good stories, but I all of his stories seem
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to be repetitive, even going back to Clone Wars when
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you look at some of the episodes that he did there.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: So for me, having him be the creative director the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Fikey of Star Wars was a bad decision up front,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: and now he's improved some of it in Mandalorian and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Ahsoka like, I can see that. I totally give it that,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: But I just don't think any one person can manage
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: a timeline like Star Wars has. It is point blank
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: impossible to do when you have sixty seven years for
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the Skywalker Saga alone, and then you want to go
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: twenty five thousand years that way and then even further
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: past the Skywalker Shaga that way. So to me, it
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: just didn't make any sense to me. Felonian Favrou seemed
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: to be the Kings right now. It's like Smell said,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: if it's Dave show, it gets three seasons a movie
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: in fifteen animated shows. I'm not saying like yes, but
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying no, because to me, this is what
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Filoni's gonna make, what he wants to make, And that
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: was clear what Tales of the Jeda and Tales of
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the Empire point blank.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I think he's good at like bringing in
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: people to make a good show. I think that's why,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: like some of the those of my favorite episodes of
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: The Mandalorian aren't directed by Dave Filoni or written by
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Dave Filoni. Thereby you know, the other people that he's
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: bringing in, So which makes it even more annoying for
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: me personally that this gets Like Leslie Heslin gets so
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: much hate when their golden boy Dave Filoni was one
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: hundred percent behind her and the story that they were
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: telling in this show. So if you're, you know, the
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: new big wig of the franchise who is going to
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: be like leading us. Is okay with that story, then
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: by the by their own logic, they should be okay
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: with what stories being told as the Star Wars canon story.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: You know, this is the guy who was mentored by
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: your other fave, George Luke. So it's it's it's it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: like the Yoda uh, you know, lineage of Jedi Masters
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: type thing. At least for me and Dave. Filoni's really
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: good about like letting people make the stories that they
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: want to make. And I think that she made the
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: stories she wanted to make, and they loved it. People
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: were supportive of They were in pre production in February,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: they were looking for directors, they were doing all of
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: these things. But these dudes just want to quote stuff
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: from other movies and hang on the fact that one
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: actor misset a thing and this is why it's trash
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: and this is why it's that and oh Kiyati Mondy,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: like you ever gave a shit about Kyati Munday in
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: the first place. It's just it's just bigotry, man. I
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: think it's just straight up, flat out bigotry. If your
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: arguments for why the show isn't good is because of
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Leslie Headland and the actors not knowing Star Wars. That
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: is what Star Wars theory told you to say, and
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: that's not what was actually there.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and I think that a lot of people
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: because even in our gua chat, uh, you know, they
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: were saying, oh, you know, writing wasn't great. This wasn't
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: a you know, bang of a kickoff show or whatever. Again,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: it comes down to an opinion. I'm totally fine with
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: people being subjective about these things.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: That's totally there's perfectly legitimate critiques about this show. We're
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: not of those.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: We had critiques about the show. And when it comes
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: to the writing, I watched a Star Wars show that
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: is on par with a Star Wars movie that I
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: have on the video games that I have played. So
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: it is so frustrating to see this go on and
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: on and on after every single project. You know. I
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: immediately after this, I did three consecutive tweets. My first
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: one is I will not feed into the excuse of
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: everyone else that everyone else is giving as far as
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: like the budget, the views and all of this says
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: and I said, if I didn't have a one year
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: old right now, I probably wouldn't have Disney Plus right
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: now after this decision, because everything that I am enjoying
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: is always in a do we really need it? Maybe
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: that can get kicked off or whatever. Then I said
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I was saving money for Star Wars Outlaws. Really tempted
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: to go somewhere else with my money. Now, like again, agent,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: like you had said featured in our thumbnail, by the way,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: your tweet was after the act like cancelation. How is
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: anyone supposed to be excited for Outlaws, skill and crue,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: et cetera. When we know now more than ever that
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: grifters know their voices matter more than the fans who
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: actually enjoy the content of this universe.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: And that was my argument as well. Like you can
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: say all day long, well, Star Wars has canceled all
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: kinds of things. Brian Johnson's trilogy tackles film X y
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Z All day long, I have remained a positive person,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, like it might happen one day, Like
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Like we keep hearing the one thing that I think
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: lucasfilm is really good, and I think it's more Disney
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: than lucasfilm is really good at doing when it comes
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: to marketing and feeding into the fan base that they
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: know they need as far as money goes, and I
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: get it, the GA is a large sum of that money,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: because fans are not always going to produce the amount
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: of money that they quote unquote need for these types
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: of things. But the fact that every once in a
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: while they'll be like, hey, there's still talks of this.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: We just got that with Patty Jenkins, not a you know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: maybe a couple months ago about her her uh uh
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Rogue Squadron Rogue Squadron movie. It's just like, I that
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: is dead in my mind after this, I.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And yeah, That's basically where I'm at to is like
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: this turned me into a Star Wars cynic. I'm still
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: gonna be a positive fan and I'm gonna watch Skeleton Crew,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: but like this turned me into an absolute cynic. I
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Matt this morning was like, how you doing it? And
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'm still upset, and he was like,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen you this upset about
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: anything on TV or a movie. And I'm like, yep,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it's because I felt seen like And don't get me wrong,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I've like had other times with like Focaton coming into
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Mandalorian for instance, getting to see Ahsoka in live action,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: really cool stuff. This made me feel seen as a
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Star Wars fan. I loved this story. It was like
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: everything to me, like this is like I love Fourth Wing,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: like Akatar has been really good. Like this made me
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: feel seen as a female Star Wars fan. And like
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I said, there's been other times, but like to have
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: a whole show dedicated to me as a Star Wars fan,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: that was awesome, point blank. And now I'm just really
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: sad about it. All Right, y'all, we're gonna hit our
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: first ad break and we will be right back in
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: three two one.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not even like you can and now
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: it's not even like you can like go to the
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Disney Store and like buy merch from your favorite characters,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: because it's fucking gone, Like what are we doing? Like
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: what like who's making these decisions? I just wish that
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: like they would just be upfront and like someone would
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: just take responsibility for what's going on, because it's just
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: so frustrating that like every day more stuff is getting
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: taken away from this show because of everything that happened
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: despite like all of the social media push that happened
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: with this in like the Twitter the.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Best marketing campaign that Star Wars.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: And I was so sad that I didn't get nothing
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: from from from the Star Wars Twitter people. You know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: I would have loved I would have loved some fucking
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: tissues or or something. I would have loved something now
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: and you can't even go get it because they're scrubbing it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Why why, like why what's the like, what is the
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: reason for it feels like it feels like they're scrubbing
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: to go push more movies back, to go push more
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: money back to the movies. And if like this was
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: canceled so that like Grogu and the Mandalorian movie and
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: get more money, fuck me, like what, like why are
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: we even don't even stop making stuff? Just stop making it?
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: And and I wanted to bring that up because that
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: is a huge, huge worry in the fan base right now.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I think it was Danie RpK says Orlando is now
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: a film Rangers of the New Republic who was canceled
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: and or will end in season two. No Mando season four,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: No BLAA FET season two, No Act Flight season two
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Skeleton Crew is only a limited series, Ahsoka's only ongoing
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Star Wars show. Currently, no other live action series has
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: been announced for development, and with the merchandise going away,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: people are now afraid that this is going to be
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: a Willow situation, where Willow was different from Batgirl at
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: wb Batgirl never got to see the light of day.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Willow was a show that has existed, premiered on Disney
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Plus and now is nowhere to be seen, and they
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: wrote it off as a you know, a tax right off.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: People are worried that this is going to be the
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: exact same thing with the Acolyte. This is not okay,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: trying to basically erase a project from existence when this
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: is people's livelihood as well as you know, our our
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: you know, our piece of the fandom being joyful that
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: it exists. But people spent time out of their lives
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: to create this content and you're just gonna be like, eh, well,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: it's fine because I can write it off and you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: get more money at the end of the year.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I'm terrified of that. If that happens, that will be
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the Triger point and I'll cancel Disney Plus. I won't
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: be watching Skelaton Crew. As much as I want to,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I won't be watching Skeleton Crew.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Are y'are Maybe I'm going, but I'm not.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I'm pr and I'm not gonna talk about it for Disney,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: not that we have that many listeners, but like.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: PR and that's the thing agent like in my mind,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I am currently thinking, I'm gonna have to Like it
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: has been a long while, a long while since I
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: have actually pirated content, and I'll say it right here
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: live on YouTube have in the past. But if you're
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: gonna steal my money and it's and you say, hey,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: your money doesn't count, fine, my money doesn't count, So
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give it to you. And That's just
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: how it is.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I'm at the same point right now too, because if
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: this gets a physical release, I'm snatching it up. I
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: haven't gotten Bando or and Or yet because those shows.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I trust that Mando is gonna stick around with Disney
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Plus for a little bit and those physical releases works.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: But if the act like it's a physical release, I'm
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: picking it up immediately like it's happening. Okay, I've never
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: pirated anything in my life, but I will do that
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: if it has If it has to be done.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know they're they're hurting. They're the one
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: hundred and sixty billion dollar company. They're they're hurting right now.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: You know, I gotta I gotta make it. If they're hurting,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I'm hurting too. I gotta make cuts. Sorry, I got to,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: you know, I got I gotta do what's what's best
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: for me and minds. If that that's the mentality you're
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: going with.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Tell me all day long. There was a budget issue,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: and I understand, we understand, like, oh, if you break
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: it down to pure this and that, like fine, whatever
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: budget was one hundred and eighty million, viewership was not.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: That was not on par with other things that are
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: coming out. But it also came out in the midst
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: of House of the Dragon and the Boys. Let's just
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: keep that in mind because that's important. It was a
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: big summer for television con and the fact of the
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: matter is is that there was long term investment potential
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: with the act and you scent it out the window.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not hoping. I'm praying and hoping that Tessa and
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Justina's books still get made. Justina sounded positive yesterday, but
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I know that we're all we're all booked people here,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: and you know I've talked. I talked to both of
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: them at Savio Comic Con, but I don't think they
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: have the same kind of vested interest in this fight.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: So justin Justina's video to me rang hollow because she
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: can be like, oh, well, you know it's it's gonna
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: be okay because she's writing, she is writing another book
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: and she hasn't even seen the show. Like I couldn't
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: even ask her about the show about Vernestra Rowe, the
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: character she created, because she hasn't even seen the show.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: So for me, like, I don't care about what anyone
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: says who hasn't seen the show because it's her words
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: were so infuriating to me as someone who sat in
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: front of her and Tessa, and they both told me
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: to my face that they didn't watch it and we
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: had nothing to really talk about because we can't talk
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: about your book that's not out yet because you don't know.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: So how are you even writing these stories if you
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: haven't even seen the thing. It's just so confusing, it's
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: so confusing, And then why even give them books? Why
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: even give them books? If you were like worried that
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: this was going to happen. It just makes no sense to.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Me, Double's advocate, Double's advocate. They may want to put
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: their own spit on the characters without having the show
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: influence what happened.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Great, but then don't tell me, oh, it'll be okay
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: when you didn't experience what we experienced and like went
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: through what we went through, Like it's like it's like
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: to me a little bit, it was like the imagine
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: all the fucking people thing that all the celebrities did,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: like you, you weren't. You weren't in this fight. You
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: weren't in this fight. You didn't have the hate, you
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: didn't have all of these things that all these other
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: actors had. You didn't have that. Because no one knew
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: who Vernatra role is. There isn't the same kind of
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: audience and droves of people going to the High Republic
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: and reading these stories. I had to tell people that
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Hernatra role was from the High Republic and like these
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: are the books that she was in, because they just thought, oh,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know who these people like, oh Kiyati Monday,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So for me, I'm just like,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: why why did you even say anything because you just
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: don't know. And I don't even know if she's been
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: open that she hasn't seen it, but like it took me,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: It took me a mat saying that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think it would be very smart if she,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: if she did, you know, decide to say, Hey, by
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: the way, I've never seen the show, but I created
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: the characters and.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Like you know, and I never I never saw them
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: on screen. So you know, she has no she doesn't care,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: not that she doesn't care, but like she doesn't. It's
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: that they didn't hit her as hard as to say
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: it's gonna hit you know. Manny who found out like
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: on his probably didn't find out on his birthday. He
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: might have known before that, but like to have all
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: that news come out on his birthday, Yeah, when he
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: was just at D three, you know, not begging but
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: like pleading with people to like let us do uh,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: let us let us you know do this again. Yeah,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Like those are like the people that I want to hear, like, hey,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: you know, let's let's let's relax. Or like when uh
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Un McGregor came out in support of Revas, I forgot.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Uh I can't.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Remember her name.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Looking it up right now because I just had a
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: break part.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, I mean because because it's such a it's
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: like a list of actors at this point, right, we're
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: just like getting attacked over and over and over again.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: So it's it's hard for me to be like, oh
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: it'll be yeah, most is ingram like it's it's it's
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: hard for me to be like, oh it'll be okay,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: you know, don't worry about it when they're still making
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: content and there's they still have there, they're still seeing
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: these stories come. And now we have a whole wide thing,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: a missed opportunity because I don't know if we'll ever
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: go back to the High Republican live back, And that
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: to me is so sad because this era is so dope,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: even this in between era that we were getting so dope,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: because we're already seeing the subtle changes between that era
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: and the prequel trilogy era, and it's just rough that
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: we're not getting it just because of all these things.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: And you know, it just don't don't you know, don't
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: paste on me and telling me it's raining. It sucks.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: It sucks really really bad, and we should be angry
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: about it if we enjoyed the show.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you both a question. Katie. I
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: know that you saw this tweet of mine, but it's
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: rightfully you know, people's decision to start these hashtags and
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: everything else. And I've seen Save the Acolyte Renew the Acolyte,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: you know, famously made for things like release the Snyder
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Cut and renew Lucifer. Save Lucifer. These two projects were
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: saved in a matter of speaking, you know, Snyder Cut
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: being finally released LUSA for being able to continue on Netflix.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: And so I have to ask you guys in my ballpark,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I got burnt out with Justice Leake. I did my part,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: you know, I I I pushed all of that, save
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Daredevil as well. On the game also said that is
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: very true.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I got the Snyder Cut and then I backed off.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I didn't do anything else like a normal person, Clay,
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: because if you don't like it, you just go about your.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Days and then and then you know, uh, there's still
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: people trying to help David Air and everything else. But
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: is it worth the fight to try and renew and
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: get these hashtags trending and pushing for a revival? Agent?
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: What do you think.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I would say so if they didn't pull all the
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: merchandise off the store today, I think I think where
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I would go because I think the renew the Act
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: of Lite hashtag was great, people showing their love trending
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: multiple days, multiple weeks. You know, after Save the Act Lite,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: we might get that same treatment if enough people. But
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: why do we have to save it? Like why do like?
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Why is it? Why is the onus on us to
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: do those things? I had someone on on TikTok yesterday
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: tell me that to when I was telling them about
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: the review bombing. His answer was, well, you should have
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: reviewed it harder, more of you should have reviewed the
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: show to offset the average Like what what you the mob? Yeah,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the mob that didn't even see it? How was this
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: the least viewed show with the most reviews? Does like
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: anyone not? Like do the executives not understand like what
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: that is? I think they do, So I don't think that,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: like for for the Act Lite specifically, say thing will
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: work because not enough of the middle aged white men
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: watched this show. Enough. If enough middle aged white men
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: did it and bitched and complained as much to get
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: the you know, slightly above better, Snyder cut of the
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Justice League, then yes. But the difference is Clay and
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Katie is that we're normal people. So when we don't
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: like something, we don't bitch about it for days. We
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: don't go into people's comments to say, oh, this was shit.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: When I didn't like when I didn't like the last Jedi,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: I didn't go into Ryan Johnson's Instagram to be like, oh,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: you're terrible, you know, because it's just not normal behavior
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: and the and you're so right, Clay, like this, like
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: this wasn't I'll retract my tweet because like this, they've
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: always known that they can. They can just bitch and
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: get what they want. They've always known because they can.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: With the Snyder cut, with Lucifer or not, I would
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: not say so much to lose Ferget. I don't think
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: the crowd is as bad, but like we're new the
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Snyder cut definitely. Lee is in that where you complain enough,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: you complain enough, you complain enough, you complain, you can
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: plain complain, and then they eventually give you what you
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: want and then you hope that it, you know, works
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: out for you financially, I guess. But if you have
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: all these people who are clamoring for it and renew
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: the act and all these things, and you still cancel it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think they cared enough. I don't think it
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: ever had a shot. I think it was doomed to
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: fail from the start, and I'm surprised that, like we
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: did that, they didn't. They didn't do more to combat
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: their own ship, getting review, bond or doing something like
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: like you said, putting the show on on TV for
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: the first maybe four four episodes. I think that's good.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: The first four episodes, I think good enough of a
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: hook to get people into it.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: If you do that, I believe that the it was
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: four and five that are the the double episodes, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: if it has a big enough cliffhanger, trust me, yeah,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: to get people back, like, let's go watch the rest
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: But they did, they didn't try enough, despite all of
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: these hashtags. So it's just really I don't I don't
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: think so. I don't think it's gonna matter.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've seen people talk about, oh, what's gonna
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: happen to the Cannon timeline if the accolyte dispairs. I
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: don't want to talk about that. We're not gonna wish
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: that into existence. If it happens, we can talk about
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: it later. I'm not gonna talk about that right now.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I'll point like, I don't want to wish that into existence.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I hope I if it doesn't get readewed, I hope
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: they never touched Lagas. I hope they never touched Vegas.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: And then these motherfuckers are just stuck with their one
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: book forever that they hold like the Holy Bible. So
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: they don't get it because I don't think they deserve it.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think they deserve it. They don't deserve it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: It's the same thing.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: As as Bain right. Bain was the was the one
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: character people were clamoring about and wanting. You know, I
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: always bring up the fact that Bain almost made an
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: appearance on Clone Wars, and then both George Lucas and
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Felony were like, hey, maybe let's not do this. So
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: like it's oh man, you're right, agent. They don't deserve it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: They don't deserve they.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Don't deserve it. Don't lose when all those old white men.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Pass away because we just have so much like great stuff,
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: you know, and maybe maybe maybe what the the answer
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: is is if you're gonna keep streaming like doing stuff
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: on streaming services. Just do animation. Don't touch live action,
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: don't even don't even hint it live action, because I
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: don't even want to see a live action ban unless
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: it's in a movie now, because I just know that
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: we're gonna have to go through this ship all over again,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: because as a perfect as it's gonna be, as they
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: can do it exactly the way they do it in
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: the books, then why I could have just gone and
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: read the book. I could have just gone and read
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: the book. Well, what did this? What did this do?
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I can go watch a fan film like what why?
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Why do we need that when we already have that
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: story told. We had a whole new story to tell
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Skeleton's cruises and give a whole new cast of characters
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: and stories for us to to indulge in, Like don't
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: you remember?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: So?
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I think they did like the worst things about what
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: got them in the Star Wars in the first place, right,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: like that kind of grandiose like oh what is this?
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Oh the prequels, Oh the Jedi, there's Jedi everywhere, like
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: all of those things like where like why did we
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: lose that when we're getting it? And other things, because
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: it's the same. It's same, same, but different, at least
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: in my eyes. When we're going to all these different timelines,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: it's new stories. Why are we so concerned with If
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Anakin is whatever, you know, his story is still his story.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: He still will go on to murder a lot of people,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: like a lot of people, like a lot of people.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: His legacy isn't tarnished by the fact that the Acolyte
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: had force babies in it that we didn't get the
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: explanation for, and we'll probably never get the explanation for
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: because of like this. Of also, all the things that
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: they're complaining about will never get will never get fixed,
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: because some executive decided, Nope, can't do it, despite all
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: of despite all of the other creatives and all the
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: other people that we love in who are creating Star
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Wars stories, said Leslie headline killing it. Good job, let's
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: keep this rolling. And because of review bombing and all
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: this other stuff, now we don't get it, and I
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: just don't think that we deserve as a fantom at
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: this point, more live action content on Disney Plus. If
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: you're not gonna give it the attention it deserves, just
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: give us a thirteen episode animated series because that's easier, easier,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: and more cost effective. If that's what you're worried about, Easier,
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: more conspective, give me more bad Batch level animation, because
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: because it seems like it's the only thing that matters
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: to them.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: And one of the most defeated things I said last
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: night about the whole thing was the fact that Star
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Wars is going to be boring again. It's gonna be safe,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be boring. One of the biggest arguments that
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: me and Katie had in our own gua chat, because
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: of course, all of our friends want to be the
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: devil's advocate. They want to be like, hey, we're gonna
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: show you the facts and tell you this and tell
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: you that. The biggest the budget.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, we get the budget. I promise we get the budget.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: The biggest thing for us is that the Actolyte was
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: a risk. It was hey, let's do something different, which
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: it wasn't all that different. Let's be completely honest, it
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: really was. It was lightsabers, it was Jedi, it was Sith,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: it was Force users, it was all of the same
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: thing that is in everything else Star Wars related. And
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: it just looked beautiful in my mind and the fact
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: that I can't get that.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: Because people are just like, oh, I don't want that,
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: Like I it hurts, you know, the fact that you know,
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: we're talking about only getting animation.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: I guess I can be excited for visions maybe yeah,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, here's my issue.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: I love visions. How much? How many these motherfuckers have
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: even watched visions? Not a lot of them, because knowing
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: when I talked to in Star Wars in real life
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: outside of like you know, like this, you know community
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: here has seen visions, but yet we're still getting more
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: of it. So like viewership is not an issue. The
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: gathering all of these people all across everywhere is not
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: an easy thing to do, but they're willing to do that,
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: but not willing to like give other, like the live
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: action things that are taking those chances the same shot.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: I just don't doesn't make any sense to me.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: And I was like and because I tried to like
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: compare it yesterday to the Clone Wars movie and that
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: not in like a budget sense, but like, hey, this
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: was a risk, and you know what, George Lucas actually
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: took this risk and it was one of the worst
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: received things up until The Acolyte and the sequel films. Probably,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: The the one post that I saw had a nineteen
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: percent rotten score on Tomatoes and a forty percent audience
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: score was was the movie. And I remember seeing that
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: at a midnight release with my dad. My dad fell
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: asleep and I watched it and I thought, if this
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: is what the future of Star Wars is, let's fucking go.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: And I got freaking how many seasons?
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Six seasons, seven seasons of seven seasons, seven seasons.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Of Clone Wars, four seasons of Rebels. Bad Batch like
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: these shows. Like there's still people to this day that
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: have like polar opposite ideas about Clone Wars and Rebels. Oh,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I don't like the animation of this one. This one's
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: a little clunky. I don't like watching the jar Jart
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: episodes and the Clone, Like, there's so many takes on
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: something that Disney was like, Hey, let's keep this going. Ultimately,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: I think that kind of decision, though, I will be
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: my own devil's advocate. Here is the stupid argument of oh,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: it's animated, it's for kids, Let's give the kids something
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: to watch.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: George Lucas says that for twelve year olds tap sign,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, and I know that's not what you're saying,
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: but like that's what I would say to like to
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: those like and it's all for kids, man, it's all
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: for kids except for the act. Like the act like
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: probably at least likely for kids. And only one of
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: them is continuing to go because one of them is, Like,
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's boring, but like the story is
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: is boring, man. And it only it's only it's only
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: exists because Rogue one was so good, right, like it's
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: it's this thing. Then it's a new hope Rogue one,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: and then and or right, it's easy to tell the
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: story in and Or. It's so easy to say the
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: empire is bad and if you're not help, if you're
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: not doing your part, shame on you. Pick up a
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: brick and throw it at the Nazis. That's such an
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: easy story to tell. And like you said, Clay, at
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: some point, we gotta we gotta admit that that's gonna
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: be boring if that's all we're gonna be doing for
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: the next whatever, you know, years, Even the Air of
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: the Empire stuff, I'm not even that excited about. Man,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: we saw Luke's story finish if I want Luke Skywalker stuff,
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: plenty of great comics that will probably be anything better
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: than we get in animation or in live action, because
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: those stories are already so good. So why do you
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: want to just stay? Why do you want to stay
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: here in this era and only care about that this era?
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: I will always share this beings with anybody and everybody
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: that complains about Star Wars. I love this interview I
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: reposted every single time I see it on Instagram, on TikTok.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I love just the way Freddy said what he had
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: to say. Star Wars is for fucking kids. The prequels
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: were for fucking kids, and the sequels were for fucking kids.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: It's it's so good and for me in this whole decision,
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: I again, I'm gonna be hyperbolic. I'm probably gonna be
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: negative until I don't know when you know. I go
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: back to s Bub's comment here on YouTube. I've been
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: on the I don't believe these movies or shows exist
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: or will be made until I am sitting down watching
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: it boat for years now. This is I don't know
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: how many of our listeners have listened to the GUA
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: for I don't know how long I used to be
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: on the DC Show. Uh, And I kind of got
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: kicked off the DC Show because I was in this
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: boat for DC Movies. I was just like, hey, you
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: know what, everything is kind of in limbo. This sucks.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: I hate it here. I want DC Movies and I
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: didn't get them. And so I came to another franchise
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: that I absolutely love. And now Disney is like, hey, Clay,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: I personally want to attack you over and over and
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: over again, and this is what I get for it. Like,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: I hate it here. This timeline sucks.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: I told them when it initially happened. I told somebody
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: that if you're on the side of Elon Musk and
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: just about anything, you're probably wrong. And he's over here
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: tweeting that he's happy that like this is stuff's happening.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: So like, if that's the camp you want to be in, hey,
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: more power to you, man, more power to you be
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: in that camp. Have fun with all of these just
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: I think bad people who don't care about me as
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: a person of color, who don't care about you Katie
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: as a woman, Like there's just so much of like
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: that part of the fandom that I don't understand why
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: we're catering to because imagine they just keep doing this
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: how much content? Because even if you keep making it,
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: even if you keep making it and you still have
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: all these gripters, that's still Star Wars going. That's what
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: are we gonna be talking about? What are these people
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: gonna be talking about once all of these shows get canceled?
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: What are they going to be talking about? Because you
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: know they're not reading the books. You know they're not
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: reading the comics of the High Republic and all these things.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: And we know that because they don't know their own
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: eu legends material that they're they seem to cling so
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: hard onto. So we're gonna get bored. But they're gonna
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: get bored too, because they're not gonna have anything to
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: talk about because they hated everything new that came out.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: Until we're just gonna get what is the Skywalkers doing
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: this week?
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: On?
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: In between the movies?
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Tell me a matter of time before they remake four
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: or five and six. I still believe it. It's going
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: to get so bad they're like, oh, this is the
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: only thing that we can cater to. Now, let's do it.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, y'all. I think that it's about it
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: on the Acolyte that we.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Can talk about.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want to talk in circles about it.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're right. It's been an hour of me
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: being angry and now I want to go play some
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: words outlaws. Yeah, to be happy again.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, Adrian, is that you're yeah? I didn't
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: if you were joining us for the review or not.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I haven't. I haven't done. I have another review,
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: but I'm excited to hear your thoughts on it once.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: I'm once. I'm caught up because like a normal person,
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: I wait until I make my opinions on things, and
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: I don't, you know, just say oh that's bad because
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: because because reasons. But no, it's been been it's been
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: a really good time. I didn't even make any videos
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: about like this stuff because I just knew that it
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: would just take me a long time to like get
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: out and articulate. So I appreciate you guys let me
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: come on and and vent a little bit because my
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: wife and I are angry. But it's just us here
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Star Wars fans. So it's been really great and we
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: appreciate you guys so much, and thanks thanks for letting
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: come on.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as all as you're always welcome back, So tell
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: us where they can find you.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can find me primarily on Instagram and
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: TikTok these days at super Reese ninety three right there,
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: you know, and then on but Why Though, where I
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: do a lot of the Star Wars writing for them,
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: so I'll have some Outlaw pieces coming out here in
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: the coming weeks, and I'll probably be the one reviewing
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Skeleton Crew as well, so you can expect those from
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: me over there at but Why. They've done it.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Awesome sauce. Thanks Adrian, talk.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: To you later, right, yeah, beat me out.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go into our second ad break and we'll
• 59:41
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• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Our priv is doing well. We we messed up when
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  Speaker 3: up again. So yeah, now that we are done talking
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: about the Accolte, I want to go ahead and also
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: say thank you to everybody who decided to join us
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: on this conversation over at YouTube. Listeners of the podcast,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: you can always join us every single Wednesday night, seven
• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:15
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• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: that time around. But every single week Wednesdays at seven
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: pm Eastern Standard time. Right now, we are going to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: be reviewing Edge of Balance, volume three in the High
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Republic era. Of course, this is a part of Phase
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: three or way three, Phase three, I'm pretty sure it's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: phase Phase three, Phase three of the High Republic, which
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: is of course the ending of the High repub Public Initiative,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: if you will. So, you know, even that even makes
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: me sad. It's the ending. We are getting the ending
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: next year. Well, no, no, no, twenty six, beginning of twenty.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Well next year is it next year?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Nope, it's next year Sumber five. So we are we
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: are no longer going to be in the High Republic,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: you know, by the end of next year. And it's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: super sad. And this is probably one of the one
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: things that saved my love and rekindled my passion for
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Star Wars. But enough of all the sad days.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: We'll always have books. We will take my physical copy
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: from me. Uh.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: I do get a lot of the audio books though,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: so that's kind of scary, yes, yeah, So let's go
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: ahead and jump into this review, Katie. This of course
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: is the very interesting kind of avenue that the High
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: Republic took with making mangas. Of course, I wouldn't necessarily
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: call this a manga because it's not backwards. It isn't
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: black and white. Uh, but you know, uh, it's it's
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: a Star Wars comic in black and white that is
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: very much in the same vein as manga. So, uh, hey,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: do you want to go ahead and open us up
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: with this rendition of Edge of Balance?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Yes? So this volume of Edge of Balance is by
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Shima Shinya and Daniel Hose the Older with art by Mizuki,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna butcher this. I'm really sorry, Saka Kibara again,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: I apologize.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: But we head.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Back with our main character Lily, as well as we
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: get our cough and uh sav involved. Those are kind
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: of our main trio, along with two younglings to Gruta
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: and then a human now that I can't remember the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: names of they're in the back book.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: They are the Vima and viv Nia, Vivinia and Nima.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, but our main character is Lily. And so this
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: takes place, I want to say, I don't exactly know
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: where it takes place at in like the rest of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: the books, I'm gonna say it takes place. Do you know.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say due to the fact that in
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: this book we see h oh, shoot, what is her name? Master?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: No, no, Master, such a physic? No no no? Uh shoot,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: what is her name? The one that likes bombs? Zav Zav. Yes,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: Master Zav lies to a separate planet and then waits
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: until they are part of the occlusion zone, being engulfed
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: by the inclusion zone. We know that due to some
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: of the findings of the Council and other Jedi Knights,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: that we have found a way inside the occlusion zone.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: This tells me that it might be even before all
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: of that. So I think it might be like the beginning.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say too.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: It really feels that way, maybe.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Like right after I have darkness, because they're tracking it
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: because the moon that she flies to is in orbit
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: around Banshee, and the moon goes in and out of
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: the occlusion zone.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: And they also mention the Guardian Protocols. And I have
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: an opinion on Yoda's opinion of Lily with the Guardian Protocols,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: and we'll talk about that later. But they mentioned the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Guardian Protocols and it feels very fresh in this book. Yes,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: so it feels like, hey, this was probably just assigned,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: so kind of I would probably say, even this might
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: take place during the events. Oh well, I don't know. No, no,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: So Aslin and Yoda are part of this, we see
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Wreath also being a part of this as well. I
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: take that back. This might be right before Wreath's book
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: that is coming out next month.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: It might be because they talk about the blight.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they talk about the blight. And I know that
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: like Lily and her Ragtag grew because even viv Nia
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: and Nima were a part of volume one and two,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: they were just very very little. They were still very little,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: very you know, the start of their training and everything.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: They still had, like the safety training lightsabers back then
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: as well. And I think they mentioned the fact that
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: they still have them but they could be getting upgrades
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: soon in this book. But this book has always kind
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: of felt what's the right word outside of everything else
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: that we're reading, And this is kind of the first
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: time that I feel like, Okay, this is very connective
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: to the story that we are currently reading in the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: rest of Wave three, and I really liked that part
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: this Like this felt like, hey, whereas the other ones
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: felt like, hey, this is all going on during waves
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: one and two, and this Edge of Balance is kind
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: of like, hey, this is kind of being affected, but
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: not really. This is only a story about this particular Jedi,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: whereas this is still pushing the narrative of Way three
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: as a whole. So that's why I feel like this
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: one is a little bit more different, and why this
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: I think is kind of stapled into the timeline that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: we're currently reading, which is going to be before the
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: next teen novel. I think the Silas book is a
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: teen novel.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: So yes, the young adult book. I it might be
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: before Temptation.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Of the Force, like that would also make sense, but.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's definitely after the last young adult book, so.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Defy the Storm. I believe Defy the Storm ended with
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Wreath and Aslan and he was kind of in charge
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: of like watching over him, So I think that does
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: make sense that this might be before Temptation but after Defying, right, So.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: I this is probably my favorite of the Edge of
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Balanced books.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, I love this one. I'm gonna go ahead and
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: skip ahead, but we will talk about it when it happens.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: I got a little emotional. Yes, surprisingly right, like as
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: as somebody, as not as somebody, but reading about a
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: character that we still, for some reason know hardly anything about.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Getting these few pages with Aslin felt so emotional, so powerful.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: I really dug this learning. And again I'm kind of
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: showing my hand here. I ordered it. It's right there
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: on my bookshelf. I still haven't read Precedent. I haven't
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: read the one. I was going to ask you a question,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: which which does I believe show that Arkov is in
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: fact the master of Asla.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: See, I don't remember that. And I was going to
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: try to read Precedent, and I did not have time.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: I was supposed to read it right after work today
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: and then Abby was like, let's go out to eat,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm hungry, So I just like
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: my stomach was thinking for me. Uh, so I didn't
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: have time to read it. I am probably going to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: read it immediately after I edit the podcast tonight. But
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: I remember Arkov was supposed to be a big part
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: of that book, and I know that it was a
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: part of Wave or Phase two, which is set in
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: the past, and I know Aslin was introduced in Wave two.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: So I was like, I connected the dots myself, and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is probably something everybody else knows,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: but I'm finding out right here right now. Cool whatever.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: But I don't remember that happening. I knew they were friends,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I did not realize that Arkov was Alflin Girl's master.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: There is so much in Arkov's silence in this book.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: It's so good.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: It is I which which I absolutely love about black
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: and white comics because when you read a comic, you're
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: ooh ah, colors at pops, big splash page, you know,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: all of these different things. The one thing for me
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: personally when it comes to black and white comics, especially mangas,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: because it's sometimes smaller detail instead of like big panels
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: and stuff. You have to pay more attention. You have
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: to really look at things, and with things like as
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: subtle as when Lily is talking to Arkov and you
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: see his pupils like freaking dilate, really small, because he's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: like surprised, and it's just like some of these funny
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: things that happen. But also when Lily is talking to
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: another member of the group, she's like, oh, well, I'm
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: really worried about Arkov and he's just stoically standing there
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: off to the side, contemplating about things, and it just
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: feels so intense and I actually really really dig it.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: But this book, again being a part of the timeline
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: where we're currently at, we know about the blight, we
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: know that dream Gear have returned. This is the first
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: time that Lily and her ragtag group of individuals are
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: seeing that happen. They've dealt with the dream Gear head
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: on before, so they are very intensely like, oh crap,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Like what's gonna happen now? But it starts off as
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: like this weird Scooby Doo episode, because like we are
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: getting resurrections of the c yeah, like a tree zombies,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: wood zombies. And I almost I almost thought that her
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Padawan was going to be a part of that.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: I know I would have lost my shit.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: And I thought I was like, oh crap, that's so heavy.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: And I really love the way Lily has learned, Hey,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: I have always been so impacted by like being over
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: prepared or not prepared enough, or like focusing on the
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: wrong things. I'm gonna live in the now. When things happen,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: that's when I need to react. And she's learned to
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: be mindful and peaceful with her time as the protector
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: of Banshee, and I really dig that growth in her character.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: So I really dig I really love that. But when
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: the drindear appear as then is a part of that group.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: At this point, Yoda is there and they're like, oh, crap,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: drink gear, let's do something about it. And Lily is like,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: hold on, there's no malicious intent. There's nobody trying to
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: kill us. We're fine, did you get it? No, it's
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: all good, but uh, there's no malicious intent. But I
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: also love the little tidbits that we're getting from Asthen
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: because we know that he fell to the dark Side,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: right and in my mind, and I don't know, I
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: don't know how you feel about this. So as far
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: as sith dark Side users all of these things, the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: precedent kind of comes to Anakin. Anakin fell out of
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: the dark Side, he became Darth Vader. He was the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: most malicious evil thing in Star Wars, and then he
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: saved his son and Boom redeemed himself. Right, but the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: dark Side holds so much weight and like, oh you're
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: evil now, like people were like, there's so many people
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: still on the wrong side of thinking that Aslan is
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: like this evil individual, and even Yoda was like, hey,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: he can still be useful, blah blah blah. The decisions
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: that Aslen makes in this book is what got me emotional,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: because this is a guy that felt forced I have
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: to go to the dark side to save the ones
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: that I love. The ones that I love are the Jedi,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: the ones that I love, my master, my friends, all
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: of these things. He even says like I should have
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: died a long time ago, like that's just the way
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: things go. But I have been held by fear, and
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: he lives by fear, and of course that's something that
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: the dark Side holds over you. And like, again, I
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: haven't read precedent, so I don't know how this equates
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: to that, and I don't even know if they do.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: But there's a moment where as then, of course, because
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: he has literally no eyeballs, you see how he quote
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: unquote remembers our CoV and it's like this like zombiees
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: drin gear amalgamation of a Wookie, and it's like, holy crap, dude,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: like chill out, like what happened? And he even says,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: I just remember memories, and I'm like, oh snap, what happened?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: Like like why is he remembering this? But there does
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: finally become a moment after that whole conversation where he
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: says I can finally see you and you see what
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: he can see and it's ARCoV like in its prime
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: or whatever. Uh So I really dig these moments, And
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: I know we're focusing on Aslan, but like I feel
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: like there's a really good progression with his character and
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: like getting to learn something about him. I really dug that.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really nice to finally feel like we
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: were getting something from Aslan and Aslin isn't just a
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: secret anymore, because even in precedent he feels like a
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: secret and it's like, okay, the Jenna are shamed that
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: he kind of went crazy because he saw the Nameless
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: and he's afraid for his life, Like he ended up
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: in a sanatorium. That's like where he's at in precedent. Yeah,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: So like getting to see him and get that growth
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: and go, okay, we're stepping into the light a little bit.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: We're finally learning more about him. Awesome. I loved it. Lily,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: I feel really good about as a character now, Like
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: she's felt a little boring the first two volumes, but like,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: I'm finally seeing her as the character I think that
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: she was always meant to be. And yeah, I'm I
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: love Arkoff. I love artwork with Arkoff. I don't think
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: this has done the best justice to a Wookie character.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: I like, you get a lot of interpretations in his face. Yes,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: the artwork is always phenomenal. I don't feel like I'm
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: getting enough from Arkoff though, but maybe that's because I'm
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: a word person. I enjoy words.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: And but one thing that we kind of knew from
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: I believe volume one. In volume two, Arkoff doesn't say
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: a lot. He doesn't. He's a stoic character, and that
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: was the really big thing. And I think, just like,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: and I say just like, but I feel like Chewy
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: is kind of the opposite, I should say, more like Burry.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: Arkoff is like Bury. When Bury says something, it's worth saying, Like,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: he doesn't just say things just to say things, And
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: it's because of his empathy towards just the universe, you know.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: And I think with our CoV right now, I think
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: you're right. I think that there needs to be something
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: more with this character. Because yes, it's fine and dandy
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: that he can be. The Stoic doesn't say much type
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: of master. But when you're implying so much history and
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: so much connection with Aslin and all of this other stuff,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: like it almost feels like, Hey, we just needed a
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Wookie a part of this initiative, and we'll make it
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: this character, you know, like kind of like a checklist.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: And I don't want Arkov to be like that because
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's something there and I want to
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: know more of that.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, Sam, we are getting at least two more volumes,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: so we're getting Edge of Balance Premonition and Edge of
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Balance volume four. So least we're getting a couple more
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: because the story here is definitely left unfinished. Well, I
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: don't want to hit too much on the story because
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: it's very short, it's very quick read. But what did
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: you think about the creature that could use the force
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: on aston Ban the.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: Zim talk zim talk was ah, from what it looked
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: like a three eyed lemur uh that could use the force.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: I think it's cool. I think that we need to
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: see more of this in Star Wars. We don't see
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: a lot of it. There's only you know, so much
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: uh of you know, those things that happen. My mind
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: immediately goes to what are the creatures called in uh
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: you Sammary, Yes, the ones that negate the force in
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: the uh uh uh. I can't remember the trilogy the Empire, yes,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: or the Empire trilogy, but yeah, it's those are the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: creatures that immediately come to mind. And of course with
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: the Nameless, we know that they feed off of the Force.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: So there's many characters or or creatures should I say,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: that are connected to the Force in Star Wars. Seeing
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: this one actually use the Force and it was very subtle,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: I had to like look at the page like twice, yeah,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: before I finally realized, like, oh, that's what happened. And
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: then you get reaffirmed by the night Hill being like, hey,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: that thing just used the ful. You know. You're like, ah, okay, yeah,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: so I dig it. I like it. I want to
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: see more of it.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what we get for
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: the future. So let's go to Amazon, because I gotta
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: know when things are gonna come out, and I just
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: don't trust anything other than Amazon. Now it does after
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: last week.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: They at the at the end of this volume, which
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: I really did appreciate They're like, oh, to be continued
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: an Edge of the Balance four, and I was like, yes,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: we're getting more, but I think I already knew that.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: I just forgot Yes, So Edge of Balance Volume four
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: is due out April twenty second, twenty twenty five, and
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: then Premish is due out April eighth, twenty twenty five.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: I imagine that's going to change.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: Those are gonna shift probably, yeah.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so those are the current release dates. So yeah,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this one. Like I said, probably my
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: favorite of what we've gotten. Yes, actually, I'm going to
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: say it back, definitely my favorite.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: I will agree. Master. I always forget her name. Remind
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: me again, sav Zav yes zav right z sav sav
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: s Uh. I love her energy because of course we
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: got to see a little insight of her as a
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: child in Adventures, seeing that kind of like very childlike
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: mind still in her. I think it's like she looks
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: she also looks like a stoic badass, just like with
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: her big the disc helmet, the mask, the cloak, Like
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: she looks like a very stoic individual, but then is
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: all like she she I feel like she's a little crazy. Yes,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: it might also be because of the age. You know,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: we've seen how Yoda ends up, right, So when and
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: this is the only story beat I'll say, is she
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: lands on the moon and she just straight up blows
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: up her own ship and the droid is like, what
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: did you just do? And they're like, well, I I
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: you know, I can't just let them know that we're here.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, And the Droid's like, how the hell are we
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: getting back?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, we'll just still one other ships.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: You know that loved it.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: It's fine. I love I love how The joid is like,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: is that the real reasoning? Or do you just like
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: blowing things up? And she was like, why can't it
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: be both?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: So I love her. She's awesome. But yeah, this this
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: was such a great story. I need those dates to
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: shift a little bit because I feel like I need
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: more of this story now that I am actually really
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: getting into it. Yeah, and and I would love to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: see something uh separate with our call to learn a
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: little bit more about his character. Uh and and go
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: a little bit more in depth with that.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: For sure. All Right, y'all, well, Clay, where can they
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: find you? As we both go on, Yes.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: You can find me, of course, at Fanboy, play, on Twitter,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: on threads, and any and all social media, so go
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: check me out on all of those. Currently, Jake and
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: I are going to be reviewing some of Poweringer's Turbo
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: over at Ranger Alliance, so go check that out as well.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: We got a little tease for the new Poweringer's comics,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: so we're gonna be excited about that. And yeah, that's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: mainly it. On Twitter, I'm just posting a lot of
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: Marvel Snap content. It's something that I'm really enjoying doing.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: My wife Abby, being the marketing genius that she is,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: is helping me create some amazing photos for all of
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: my deb guides and all of that, so it's really
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: really fun. It's content that I'm actually enjoying to do.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: And I start a new job, so when it comes
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: to comics reading content in general, I might be a
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: little behind on things in the first month, so please
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: be diligent of that when it comes to conversations online,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: because I may not have a clue what you're talking about.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: But yeah, really excited about the new job and hopefully
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: I no longer have to do any manual labor thankfully.
• 1:27:30
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• 1:27:34
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• 1:27:37
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• 1:27:43
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• 1:27:46
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• 1:27:48
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• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: to share your thoughts. So yeah, next week we're going
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: to be diving back into the higher public with Young
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: Jedi Adventures Season two, Part one. So with that, I
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: want to wish everyone a great day or night to
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: whatever time day you are listening or watching, and we
• 1:28:10
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• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: with you.