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037 - Late nights w/ Columbus Berry · Here's to You

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  Thanks for the copy Emily, I really needed it.
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  No problem. We gotta hurry because we're
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  always late. Oh no.
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  The lights turning red. No.
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  Oh, man, there's copy everywhere.
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  Where are the napkins? Don't worry about it.
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  We can just go ahead and I'll schedule with to you Auto.
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  They'll come to where we're at and then they'll clean it while
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  we're at the wedding. OK, you drive.
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  I'll schedule with to you auto. What's the website?
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  Go to to youauto.com. Wait, what was it again?
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  The number 2, The letter U. Auto.com Perfect.
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  Yo-yo, yo, Welcome back to another episode of Here's to
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  You, the podcast coming at you with some hot summer chillness
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  today. Although it's not very chill
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  because it's like almost 100 degrees outside.
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  It's always hot in here. To my left is the purple hair
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  Vixen Fantasy McAlister. I like that intro a lot better
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  than what you've been calling me.
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  Yes. And missing in action today is
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  our Sex in the City ABG Emily P We just got back from Kansas
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  City doing the Breakaway Festival and she is feeling
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  under the weather. Yeah, she's a she called in
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  sick. She's lying.
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  I told her she's out of PTO already.
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  She is. We're gonna have to dock her
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  some points. Yeah, for attendance.
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  Yeah, she's not getting any McDonald's from the bank
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  account. No, joining us.
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  Today have a very special guest. First time meeting him today and
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  taking a look at his Instagram is one of the most beautiful
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  male specimens I've ever seen in my life.
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  He is very beautiful. Very.
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  The one and only Columbus Berry. You're how y'all doing.
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  You hear that voice? That's that's how his pictures
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  look too. Yeah, he was supposed to come
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  and sign, but he didn't bring us in.
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  Sure, it's fine. I guess it's.
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  Too good. I'm not outside for that shit,
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  man. It is way too hot outside.
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  How are you feeling today? Besides being hot?
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  Tired. Tired.
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  Yeah, Yeah. Very tired, very tired, yeah.
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  Yeah, we normally don't record on a Monday, but special
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  occasion today, Yeah, we're here on a Monday.
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  Monday is always work, yeah. But this Monday will be fun.
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  I promise. After we get into the
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  conversation and after drinking, you're going to be like, wow,
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  yeah, this is fun. Hopefully, hopefully, we get you
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  to open up. Hopefully you enjoy this and our
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  listeners enjoy this. So just to kind of like set the
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  stage, tell us a little bit, like just about yourself again.
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  So we didn't even fully say everything about you.
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  But you're an R&B singer. You're songwriter, too.
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  You're from Wichita. You bring music that's
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  realistic, sexy, passionate, catchy and vulnerable.
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  Yeah, yeah, pretty much. And yeah, so we're we're really
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  excited to have you here. Tell us a little bit about just,
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  you know, set the stage. Like what was your life like
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  growing up, how many siblings you have, if you have any
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  siblings, and what got you into? I I'm the youngest of four, OK?
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  I got three half brothers and 1/4 brother.
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  All born and raised in Wichita, KS actually in the same house.
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  So my parents have been in the same house for 3536 years or
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  something like that. My whole family is musically
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  inclined and artistic. So either they draw, they do
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  music or they play instrument. That's awesome, Yeah.
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  So it was bound to happen. One of you know the Berry boys
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  gets my dad's talent because my dad also had a brother, my
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  uncle. Who was really good at music.
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  And lo and behold, my dad had two boys.
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  Me and my brother are pretty much my my dad and my uncle
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  Butch rest his soul reincarnated.
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  So my brother's always had an ear from music and I've always
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  had the the the vocals or or socalled vocals.
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  But yeah, pretty much grew up in a musical background.
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  I mean, my dad's always done music.
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  Growing up, I was very shy. Still I still am when it comes
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  to like my craft. But a lot of people don't know
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  this. Over 15 years ago, actually
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  rapped before I sang Dang OK. People don't even know that
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  part. Yeah, yeah.
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  So, and a lot of my songs, if you hear somebody rapping on it,
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  it's actually me. And I'm like, oh shit, who is
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  this Me? It's me.
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  But. I strayed away from it because
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  it's like, you know, it got to the point.
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  When I was young, I didn't know how to write.
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  I didn't know anything about music.
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  I just. We'll go on to the fucking
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  dictionary.com and find words that rhymed with each other and
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  put them together, just add no structure to it.
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  And then as I got older, I realized that I could hold a
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  note and I was like fuck at. There was it was to a certain
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  point to where I wouldn't sing because that was my dad's
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  passion, you know, and he didn't really get to fulfill his
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  passion. So I felt like there was going
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  to be some clashing there and I didn't want to, you know, over
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  Shadow anything that he's done, but.
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  It's time gets older and he's getting older and the situation
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  that we talked about with this dementia and stuff like that,
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  now I'm just it's kind of hit the fuck it button.
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  It's either now or never. So that's what kind of got me
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  into music. Is that so like for example,
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  then like your dad. So how what was his reaction
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  when you told him that you were going to pursue music?
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  I didn't say it. I didn't tell him.
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  Oh, OK. Yeah, He's only heard me sing in
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  person twice. So yeah, I mean, I just kind of
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  like, hey, ask dad what he thinks about this song and sent
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  it to my mom. And she's like, wow, that's
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  really good. I was like, yeah, that's me.
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  I was like, what the hell? I was like, yeah, that's that's
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  me. He's like, no, show me
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  something. I was like, no, maybe some other
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  time. You know what I mean?
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  Because I just don't when it comes to singing in front of
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  people. I just don't do it.
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  I don't like it because it's like I'm automatically getting
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  put in the box because I'm a singer, okay.
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  So everybody expects me to sound like Usher, Trey Songz or
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  somebody of that. And they it's just a lot of
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  fucking stress. And then just the atmosphere
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  that we're in, not a lot of people will sit down and
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  actually listen to R&B. So it's like I don't have many
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  times where I've only performed live, maybe two or three times.
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  Yeah, so. I don't have very much
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  experience like singing in front of people, but like when I get
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  into a studio setting, it's just a different atmosphere.
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  It's just me and my creative thoughts.
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  So it's pretty much yeah. That's crazy though, cuz you
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  have hella songs outright. Don't you have like 50 or
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  something? Isn't that what you said you
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  had? You had something 23.
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  OK, I don't know where I got the other 30.
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  No, I actually. Have like 15 or 20 that haven't
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  been recorded yet they've. Already written, ready to be
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  recorded? Yeah, yeah.
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  So I do have probably. Altogether, my song catalog is
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  probably 5050 or so songs. Yeah, yeah.
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  But. I mean, takes me a while to do
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  songs because I have to be in the mood.
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  Yeah. Have to be in like majority.
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  Songs that I have out came from me being in a mood.
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  They're exactly what I was feeling in that time.
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  Yeah, yeah. And a lot of songs that I've
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  sang right there, I can't actually sing them just
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  randomly. I have to be in that mood.
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  Gotcha. To let like my emotions kind of
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  out to do it, but the vulnerability part.
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  No, just being in that mood. It's not the world really part.
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  It's like if you're playing basketball, you're just going
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  through the motion, making the threes.
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  But when you're into it, I really make a lot of threes when
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  I play. Basketball either, That's why I.
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  Get that shit up in Grace. Yeah, yeah, sure.
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  I'm. Like, say, say you're a girl,
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  you're doing your makeup. One day you feel a little bit
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  better, so you're putting the little wings and, you know, a
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  little bit extra blush. On the next day you put makeup
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  on, but you don't do it to a certain extent, cuz you're
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  really not. You're like, I'm just gonna put
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  something on just a little bit. Okay.
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  So they know that I'm still. You know what I mean?
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  Yeah. But that's exactly how it is
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  with my songs. Like, it's gotcha a lot of
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  times. I've almost pulled down half of
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  the songs. Really.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I.
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  Almost pulled down half of the songs to be honest with you.
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  All of my honesty all. Yeah, almost.
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  Yeah. So is that does that go back to
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  the what you were talking about earlier?
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  Like sometimes you're just shy or you're just like, no, OK.
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  Absolutely. I've listened to all these songs
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  probably 150 times each, yeah. Before I put them on there.
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  So now when I hear them, I notice every word that I've
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  messed up that I wanted to change, or the words there
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  wasn't fucking supposed to be in there.
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  Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, fuck, now I want
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  to change it. Yeah.
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  Why did I listen to it that much?
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  And it's a point where I just don't like the fucking song.
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  And I won't listen to it for like months and months and
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  months and I'll hear it again. I'm like, that's actually a
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  pretty fucking good song. You're like, damn, I'm kind of
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  talented. It's like, yeah, it's like when
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  you it's it's like when you're when you.
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  So I paint. And so sometimes it's like
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  you're you're doing something and you're like and you're like.
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  So fixated on one little issue that no one's going to notice
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  except you. Yeah, I used to draw.
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  So. Trust me, I understand that
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  100%. It took me 3 1/2 years to draw
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  Iron Man. Yeah, 3.
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  And it got to the point. My teacher said just put it away
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  Columbus, and come back and draw it.
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  And one day I pulled it off from under my bed three years later
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  and looked at it, threw that one away and freedrew the whole
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  thing. I was like, what the hell is
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  going on here? Yeah.
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  But I get that for sure. When did you start pursuing like
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  music then in general, kind of like what's the timeline?
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  I wouldn't even say pursue music because I haven't done it
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  consistently enough for it to be considered, you know, so on and
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  off. Three years.
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  Yeah. Oh, OK.
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  Three years maybe. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So this was when you were in
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  Florida? No, here.
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  You started here and then Virginia.
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  Virginia, OK, right, right, right.
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  Sorry. No, it's OK.
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  I didn't. You didn't.
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  I didn't tell you I lived in Virginia.
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  Yeah, but I actually moved away from in 2017.
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  I moved to Virginia for 3 1/2 years, and so something in
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  Virginia sparked you to cry in the booth.
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  Make a song. Out, Yeah, actually, yeah,
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  that's actually. You're 100.
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  Percent right there. Is a hidden song in there that
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  nobody really knows about. Was at a very trying time in my
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  life. I was actually admitted into a
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  mental hospital and at one point, and I couldn't find a way
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  for people to actually listen to what I had to say.
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  So to express myself, I just went to music and that's when I
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  actually started like singing. And then that was something
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  like. I have a funny saying.
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  As that used to say back in the day, women do not break my heart
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  because it will end up in the song.
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  It will be fucking amazing, OK? Too swift?
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  Fucking amazing. I've been through some breakups
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  in Virginia there and some of these songs and people are like,
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  dude, you're a fucking asshole. I'm like, hey, that didn't get
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  released. Yeah, just like little snippets
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  of just like Freestyle and stuff just never got released because
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  I was like, I'm not going to do that and full catalogs of songs
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  that. Nobody will really know.
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  They're acronyms for their names, but people don't actually
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  look at that. They're like, what the fuck?
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  Like just understand love. I'm around Julia, everybody.
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  Nobody knows that except for all my best friends.
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  It's like, dude, you're a fucking clever.
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  I'm like, yeah. Nobody will.
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  Ever know. Yeah, I found that I make beats
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  a little bit and stuff and. I've had some heart breaks where
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  I was like, damn, I made like some of those songs that I made
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  during those times are some of my favorite ones, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, just that's not a lie.
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  Because it's just the amount of people that when I let that song
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  out that like physically called me crying or physically told me
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  their story, you know, it was kind of touching.
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  But then it's like, fuck, I didn't realize what I just did
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  you. Know what I mean?
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  But again, it was like OK. I had to express myself because
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  if I didn't, who knows if I would have been here or not
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  because I was in that space. Like it was bad.
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  It was very bad considering I was in a mental hospital and
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  almost died twice in there. So that kind of knew what death
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  felt like and it started to feel normal every single day.
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  I started to feel that exact feeling of when I was dying.
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  So I was like, fuck, I got it or something.
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  I got to let this shit out and boom.
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  So was that like your first experience then that brought you
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  into releasing music? Or were there still other times
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  where you did that first and then some pivotal moment
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  happened? No, it was like I was dibbling,
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  dabbling in it. My buddy Sammy, best friend
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  Sammy's like, man, why don't you just finish song, 'cause I
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  always send him like snippets. It's just random bullshit.
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  Yeah, I got 700 and something voice memos on my phone just.
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  Like if ideas and shit and I'll send it to me like yeah, yeah,
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  yeah. But in that instance it kind of
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  like just sparked everything. So kind of went downhill from
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  there. Mmhm.
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  Well not to get too deep, but I mean we know that you said that
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  you use music to express real life feelings, so and you
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  mentioned already like that you use acronyms.
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  So just curious, how do you translate some of those personal
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  experiences into songs and then help that like resonate with
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  others? Or is it really just like this
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  is for me first and then if it? Sometimes it's the only way I
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  can create something. Because I'll go weeks and weeks
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  at a time and can't really think of something.
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  So I have to dig really, really deep and put myself back.
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  I'm into that mindset. That's another reason why it
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  takes me so long, because some of these songs that, you know, I
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  kind of go in there and really there's a lot of songs that I've
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  written that I haven't released yet.
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  And there's certain reasons why because I have to get into a
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  certain mindset and it's kind of hard to pull myself out of that
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  mindset. Once I get into that mindset, it
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  could. There's no telling.
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  How long did it take me to get back out of that mindset?
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  So I kind of don't want to go into that depth of it just yet,
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  if that makes any sense. But majority of the songs, like,
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  look at the fucking names of them, like it's it literally
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  says, yeah, exactly what I'm like.
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  Everything that I'm saying is everyday life for anybody.
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  Yeah, like sex on me. Is that the one that says that
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  right there? What are you talking about?
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  Sex. Sex me.
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  Sex Me. Yes, yes.
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  It's very nasty. Talk about sex me.
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  Sex. Me.
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  Yeah. I got tired of women saying
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  certain things just to get a rise out of me.
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  So what I decided to do was like, OK, you look at me, you
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  see a sex figure? Apparently so.
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  I'm going to give you exactly what you want to give you that
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  mental paint, that fucking picture that.
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  I'm not the one to be fucked with, I.
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  Don't like it? Do not I?
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  I like stop. Stop making me into a sexual
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  being. I'm much more than that.
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  Yes, dead ass serious. Like I'll be sitting in the bar
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  and somebody will walk up to me and say something sexual and I'm
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  just like, OK, all right, straight up.
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  I'm gonna be honest with you. You got 3 warnings.
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  After that third warning, whatever happens is not my
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  fault. They're like, what the fuck do
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  you mean by that? And it's like.
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  Fuck around and find out. So okay, Florida, man.
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  Yeah. That song was sending a message.
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  There's a lot of songs out here that are sending messages.
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  Yeah, so it's like a diss track. It's not a diss track.
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  It's letting you know what happens if you get into a sexual
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  situation with me. Shit, it's like a Full
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  disclosure. You're like the praying mantis,
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  but like in guy form. So like the praying mantis will
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  kill the dude after having sex. I.
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  Definitely won't. There won't be any walking, but
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  I won't kill you. Let me go.
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  Let me get myself out together. That's a buddy.
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  You're just gonna break a couple hip bones.
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  No big deal. Touch a couple kneecaps all day,
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  but yeah. That's pretty much everything.
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  Like, there's a bunch of stuff on there.
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  Like Take Me Back was literally having a, like, I was having a
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  conversation with myself and I was thinking like, fuck, take me
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  back to the time where we used to be, you know, when we
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  actually used to have a conversation.
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  And it wasn't always about like sex, You know, That was like a
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  more vulnerable thing. And then when you go to making
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  love, it's kind of like okay now.
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  You've heard the extremely sexual side of me.
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  Now let me show you the passionate side to that sexy you
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  see and then don't hide. It's pretty much telling you
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  don't hide, but like, you're beautiful, Like, don't hide
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  behind anything. Be yourself.
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  You know what I mean? Like, there's messages behind
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  anything that I write. And nice to meet you is
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  basically it was nice to meet you.
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  You're like, it was a pleasure, truly a pleasure.
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  There's literally you've changed this.
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  It's simply that. It's.
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  Talking about how much you've changed, like if you didn't used
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  to be like this, and then there's a lot of, it's a lot of
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  shit. There's a song called Don't Call
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  that I got this unreleased, you know, still working on it.
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  It's pretty much. Saying don't call my phone.
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  And I figured out all your bullshit.
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  I figured it. I figured that literally My
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  lyrics are simple shit and people don't understand that.
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  It's like it's a songwriting thing.
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  Like I study music. I study my favorites.
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  Like, don't call my phone. Don't call my phone with the
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  bullshit I figured you out. Your best friend hit my line and
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  said you're running your mouth like it's pretty much simple
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  shit like it's. Stuff that happens in everyday
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  thing. Because I know if you have a
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  situation with one of your girlfriends or you're talking to
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  a dude, I'm pretty positive. If something happens, you talk
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  to one of your girlfriends and there's probably been a
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  situation where one of your girlfriends has went back and
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  said something and you know. Oh yeah, she said.
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  You did this, this and that. You know what I mean?
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  It's kind of like a it's kind of like a circle.
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  The whole instigation stuff. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's.
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  Pretty much it. So yeah, it really is just you
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  expressing things in the moment. It really is just that.
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  OK, what? So like you were saying like you
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  started with RAP 1st and then you went to R&B.
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  Why? I guess I'm just gonna ask the
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  questions more directly now since he's like, don't call my
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  phone. Why?
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  Basically, I stopped doing rap because everybody was fucking
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  doing it and I didn't like where rap was going.
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  And I refused to rap about shit that I don't have or shooting
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  people are doing. That's just not me.
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  I mean, I don't do that. I'm a lover.
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  I'm a yeah, you know, So I got into singing to like, you know,
• 19:24
  I'm in tune with my emotions. 100%, you know, I'm not afraid
• 19:27
  to cry. I'm not afraid to do anything
• 19:28
  like that. And singing allows me to express
• 19:32
  myself like that and show that. Like, you know, you could still
• 19:35
  be a man and have emotions. There's nothing wrong with that.
• 19:38
  Don't catch you. Good for you.
• 19:41
  Sorry. Keep going.
• 19:44
  Therapy is important, guys. Therapy is important.
• 19:46
  Yeah, guys have feelings too. Yeah.
• 19:49
  Stop treating us like shit, please.
• 19:50
  Yeah, and vice versa. They're young children as well.
• 19:55
  Yeah, we are. We're all trying to figure out
• 19:57
  our inner child and love them. Yeah.
• 20:00
  And trying to make them feel better.
• 20:04
  What? Besides like the moment that you
• 20:06
  mentioned earlier from Virginia, what's another experience that
• 20:10
  has, like a significant impact on your creative journey as an
• 20:14
  R&B artist? How did it shape you and impact
• 20:18
  or influence your music too? Made me not afraid to be.
• 20:21
  I was just became unapologetically me.
• 20:24
  You know what I mean? Like I wear what the fuck I want
• 20:27
  to wear. I walk how I want to walk.
• 20:29
  I like, I'm completely sure of my sexuality.
• 20:33
  It made me coming to me, you know what I mean?
• 20:36
  There's a lot of men out there that aren't sure of their
• 20:38
  sexuality and by that, that doesn't mean that you're
• 20:40
  bisexual, you're gay or anything.
• 20:42
  Like that's being 100% sure of yourself.
• 20:45
  And I am that. So that's why I can wear fucking
• 20:48
  silk shirts anywhere. For instance.
• 20:52
  What's today? Saturday I went out.
• 20:55
  I had on fucking leather pants, yeah, and I had on a silk
• 20:59
  leopard print shirt. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:01
  And somebody made a comment. What the fuck are you wearing?
• 21:03
  I was like, why does the fucking matter?
• 21:06
  You know what I mean? Just because you aren't sure of
• 21:08
  yourself. And you can't wear that look.
• 21:10
  I used to be a bodybuilder. I don't work hard to to look the
• 21:14
  way I look. OK, So I'll be damned if I let
• 21:17
  somebody dictate. What I wear the next day.
• 21:21
  Yeah, yeah. It's only making them
• 21:22
  uncomfortable because they're uncomfortable with themselves.
• 21:24
  It's the way I look at it. So as long as I'm not walking
• 21:27
  around here with my Dick out of my jeans, I think I'm fine.
• 21:30
  So. Yeah, yeah, damn.
• 21:32
  That's hella real though, 'cause there are hella guys who
• 21:35
  definitely and and not just guys, I mean in general, right?
• 21:38
  Like when you're not comfortable with who you are, you tend to
• 21:42
  project that it's onto that other person that obviously.
• 21:48
  Does know who they are a lot more and it that's one of the
• 21:51
  reasons why I don't hang out with too many dudes.
• 22:17
  I'm just vibing. Because a lot of dudes can't
• 21:55
  handle being around me and a lot of dudes get into a pissing
• 21:59
  contest when it comes to being around me.
• 22:01
  And it's like dude, just cuz there's a pretty girl around
• 22:03
  does not mean that I'm interested.
• 22:07
  I mean you know what I mean? She's pretty cool.
• 22:10
  Keep it pushing 9090% of the time.
• 22:12
  I won't even notice them unless they walk in front of me like
• 22:14
  directly in front of me. I'm in my own world when I go
• 22:16
  out like I. I'm chilling.
• 22:19
  Like, you know, like I don't approach women at bars.
• 22:21
  I don't do it. And I don't go to bars to get
• 22:23
  women. I go there to chill.
• 22:24
  If I hit up, you hit you up as a guy, they go hang out and chill.
• 22:28
  I want some guy time I. Got plenty of girlfriends I can
• 22:31
  go hang out with and gossip, but I don't like gossip.
• 22:33
  That's why I'm choosing that. You know, when it starts getting
• 22:35
  like that, I'm like, alright, I'm hitting up my boys, let's
• 22:38
  play some Xbox or some shit. But it just becomes a pissing
• 22:41
  contest and a lot of dudes aren't sure of themselves and
• 22:43
  they start acting funny when a pretty girl gets around.
• 22:46
  So imagine Florida's full of pretty women.
• 22:48
  So every dude acts fucking weird when it comes to being around
• 22:52
  women. I'm like, bro, can you not be
• 22:53
  fucking normal? Can you not have a normal
• 22:55
  conversation with a girl without it?
• 22:57
  You know, I mean, come on now. Lots of predators I would do.
• 23:02
  I would think that since there's more like, prettier women down
• 23:06
  there, they would get be used to it.
• 23:07
  You would be like. Ah, you think that's the ten?
• 23:09
  That she's just A7. These dudes act like they've
• 23:12
  never seen a fine woman before in their life.
• 23:16
  Like, come on now, dude. Really.
• 23:20
  Fuck. That shit aggravates.
• 23:23
  That's that's one of my pet peeves right there.
• 23:25
  Yeah, yeah, it's like, OK, she's fine.
• 23:28
  Cool. Why don't you go talk to her?
• 23:30
  I don't need to. What do I need to do that for
• 23:32
  her? I'm not interested in that
• 23:34
  because, you know, sorry. But Florida's full of a lot of
• 23:37
  materialistic things, and that's not something I'm into.
• 23:40
  So yeah. What's another pet peeve?
• 23:45
  Another pet peeve. Yeah, we're doing pet peeves
• 23:47
  now. Okay.
• 23:48
  Inconsistent fucking people. Elaborate.
• 23:53
  Don't text me, Don't call my phone.
• 23:56
  Right, right. We don't establish that.
• 23:57
  Text me and. Then I text you and you don't
• 23:59
  reply for like 3 days. Gotcha.
• 24:01
  That's fucking weird to me. What was the point of getting my
• 24:03
  attention? I could have been fucking doing
• 24:05
  something, you know what I mean? And I always like to give people
• 24:07
  attention because you never know what somebody's going through.
• 24:10
  You know what I mean? I try to be there for people,
• 24:12
  but I feel like it's getting taken advantage of.
• 24:13
  And that has to stop, which is going to stop.
• 24:16
  But that saying you're going to do something and don't do it.
• 24:20
  And it can be as little as saying, hey, I'm going to call
• 24:23
  you like 30 minutes. I'm like, okay, cool.
• 24:25
  If you don't call me, I don't. I won't sweat it.
• 24:28
  But. You'll remember.
• 24:29
  I'll remember. I'll definitely.
• 24:30
  Be like okay, I forget, but I don't forget.
• 24:33
  Honestly, it's not even a forgive and forget type of
• 24:36
  situation. It's kind of like you don't
• 24:37
  value my time. You know what I mean?
• 24:40
  I could die tomorrow, you know that.
• 24:42
  That's that's some very valuable time.
• 24:44
  And I take a lot more serious now considering one of my
• 24:46
  friends pretty much committed suicide a day before we were
• 24:49
  supposed to hang out in Florida. So and I didn't figure out for a
• 24:52
  month and 1/2 after that, I just thought she goes to me.
• 24:55
  I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
• 24:57
  She OK? No reply, no nothing because I
• 24:59
  know she had issues. I was like, I'm just going to
• 25:01
  give her her space and then they see no one.
• 25:03
  See, she's dead on Facebook. So you know, I try to take
• 25:06
  people's time serious. So if I reply to you, it takes
• 25:10
  you're on your phone anyway. Takes you 10 seconds to send a
• 25:13
  fucking. I'm doing this.
• 25:15
  OK, cool. And I'm not saying you have to
• 25:16
  explain yourself, but just show some communication.
• 25:18
  That's a big thing for me. That's another pet peeve
• 25:21
  communication. Yeah.
• 25:22
  Yeah, just stare it out. Keep going and eye contact.
• 25:25
  And eye contact. I'm hella giving you eye
• 25:27
  contact. That's.
• 25:27
  Why I said that, but just staring at my soul, I don't
• 25:29
  know. I'm trying to see who blinks
• 25:31
  first, like I will win this fucking game.
• 25:35
  I look at people's eyes when I'm talking to them.
• 25:38
  I want them. I want them to know I'm paying
• 25:39
  attention to you. I appreciate that.
• 25:42
  Not to me. If you.
• 25:43
  If you don't want me to make eye contact, I'll look at the I'll.
• 25:45
  I'll look somewhere else, oh Lord.
• 25:49
  If it is it a pet peeve? No, it's not.
• 25:51
  Oh, OK, you were just saying that?
• 25:54
  Oh, pet peeve. No sense of humor.
• 25:56
  Ah yeah, I like to banter and talk shit.
• 25:59
  And talk shit. Yeah, we talk hella shit on
• 26:01
  here. I don't know if you've noticed
• 26:02
  yet. Yeah, yeah, kind of.
• 26:04
  Sort of. Kind of.
• 26:05
  Sort of, yeah. Yeah.
• 26:07
  Emily's not here. Dusty's not a shit talker in the
• 26:10
  mood right now. Or something.
• 26:12
  He's chilling. Yeah, he's chilling.
• 26:13
  I'm always just chilling. I know we do normally talk color
• 26:20
  shit. I don't like it when I don't get
• 26:22
  responses on my text messages either.
• 26:25
  Bitch, you have to leave me on Red.
• 26:29
  I think that's the problem. Your message is not going
• 26:31
  through bud, sorry. Yeah, that's definitely what's
• 26:38
  happening is your messages aren't going through.
• 26:41
  Uh huh. Yeah.
• 26:43
  It comes back saying red, definitely no.
• 26:46
  You mean like the red icon at the bottom that says it didn't
• 26:49
  send? No, possibly I don't.
• 26:53
  Know. Only Android people will have
• 26:59
  red to red. I think you can.
• 27:00
  I know androids have red receipts too.
• 27:02
  They do. Yeah, they do.
• 27:03
  When? Did that happen?
• 27:05
  That's that's been for a while now, like several years, 'cause
• 27:09
  when I had an OR, yeah, 'cause I switched back to iPhone, I don't
• 27:15
  know, maybe 6-7 years ago. And back then, yeah, I still had
• 27:19
  you could send red receipts. Yeah.
• 27:22
  Where have I been? Yeah, you've just always been
• 27:25
  Team iPhone. Apparently.
• 27:26
  No, I had to Android first. Oh, OK.
• 27:28
  I had a Galaxy Four. Yeah, that was a long fucking
• 27:31
  time ago. Yeah, OK.
• 27:32
  Yeah. Yeah, a long fucking time ago.
• 27:42
  Yeah, buzzy as hell. But I stopped getting that
• 27:35
  because I was like, damn, this picture quality is amazing.
• 27:37
  Soon as I leave the store, I'm like, what the fuck happened to
• 27:39
  my camera? They changed the camera in the.
• 27:44
  Why have my face so long? So I was like iPhone.
• 27:49
  Here we go. Yeah, been iPhone ever since.
• 27:51
  Gotcha. Gotcha.
• 27:52
  Yeah, no, they still have. They still have those red
• 27:55
  receipts. We just can't across like
• 27:59
  Android to Apple. We don't get that.
• 28:01
  Yeah, that's not a thing. I know.
• 28:04
  I know. So are there any challenges that
• 28:08
  you've faced in your career so far?
• 28:11
  Yeah, Yeah, a lot. Yeah.
• 28:13
  Tell us about them. There's elaborate expand.
• 28:18
  No, man, just getting put out there, like you know what I
• 28:22
  mean? The majority of places I get
• 28:24
  asked to like perform and stuff like that is fucking trap music.
• 28:28
  Like, you know, there's not the atmosphere for me to sing
• 28:31
  majority of my shit that I have. Right, right.
• 28:33
  Because. Again.
• 28:33
  You're That's not even what you're trying to express.
• 28:37
  And then I get invited to these Indy fest where they give out
• 28:41
  fifty $60,000. I'm not even going to go because
• 28:44
  it's like, why do I sit here and pay you guys $1000 just to be
• 28:48
  eliminated from the competition? Because they're not trying to
• 28:50
  hear this shit. So it's either I come up with
• 28:52
  some club banger, which I have, I just haven't released it yet
• 28:56
  that people would be subject to, or it's just like they're not.
• 28:59
  They don't want to. I mean, everybody says, well,
• 29:01
  there's always that that, you know, that type of crowd where
• 29:04
  they can kind of enjoy that shit.
• 29:05
  But it's like when I put money on the line, I don't really feel
• 29:09
  like dealing with that situation.
• 29:10
  So it's that and not really taking advantage of my
• 29:14
  opportunities. I've been invited to LA five
• 29:17
  Times Now. Have not been.
• 29:20
  Yeah. And if I were to tell y'all who
• 29:24
  invited me, you'd be like, what the fuck are you doing?
• 29:26
  Yeah, why not? You know what I mean?
• 29:29
  So the question is, why not? You know, now it's just the
• 29:33
  finance thing. Because I have to pay for a
• 29:35
  ticket to get down there. I have to pay for the hotel,
• 29:36
  then I got to pay for a rental car.
• 29:38
  It's like that shit adds up, especially in LA.
• 29:41
  Oh yeah. So there's going to be like at
• 29:43
  least three, $4000. I'm going down there.
• 29:45
  I'm going down there for like a week, week or two.
• 29:48
  Oh yeah, yeah. I'm not going to go down there
• 29:49
  for two or three days. No, you're going to introduce me
• 29:52
  to all my idols, but that's what's going to happen.
• 29:55
  But I mean, it's still going to happen.
• 29:56
  He actually gave me his phone number and his address, so just
• 29:59
  got to make it happen. So I feel like the main thing
• 30:02
  that's been the issue is myself, to be honest with you, 100%
• 30:05
  honest with you, myself. It's been a lot of things have
• 30:08
  been getting in the way of me being able to do it at the
• 30:10
  capacity that I want to do it if I were able to.
• 30:14
  Like, I'm not even looking to get a deal, to be honest with
• 30:16
  you. If you can just give me an
• 30:18
  opportunity where I can just sit in the fucking studio and not
• 30:21
  worry about how much time I have, how much it's going to
• 30:25
  fucking cost because this shit gets expensive.
• 30:27
  The amount of fucking music I can make is just ungodly.
• 30:31
  And then if you put me in a in a situation to where I can meet
• 30:34
  some of my idols and kind of study from them and kind of pass
• 30:36
  some ideas with them, it's there'll be a done deal right
• 30:41
  then and there. But being seen is the hardest
• 30:44
  thing. You know what I mean?
• 30:46
  And I don't. I mean when people, I have
• 30:48
  marketing companies want to reach out to me again.
• 30:50
  It's expensive $15,000. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:53
  That's a lot of money for no guarantee.
• 30:56
  Yeah. The only guarantee is I know how
• 30:59
  to make good music. From what I think, I can make
• 31:02
  something catchy. I can make something quick, I
• 31:03
  can do it, but it's will the masses catch on to that?
• 31:08
  You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
• 31:10
  It's kind of betting on yourself.
• 31:11
  And I know if I bet on myself, it'll be, you know, a good idea.
• 31:15
  But I mean, I just finances is a big part, a big part of it, so.
• 31:22
  How do you juggle between, like, you know, earlier you were
• 31:25
  talking about how, like, confident you are in yourself
• 31:28
  and how, you know who you are. How do you juggle between, like,
• 31:31
  also knowing that this is a really big industry and it's
• 31:34
  hard to be seen. So how do you about.
• 31:37
  Yeah, yeah, you know, would you have met.
• 31:39
  Yeah. Would you like care to?
• 31:41
  Share a little bit about. That you know how many songs
• 31:42
  real deep and. Vulnerable with us?
• 31:44
  Yeah, definitely. I love deep.
• 31:46
  Trust me, I get, honestly, I'm. I hear some of these people who
• 31:51
  make these songs. I'm like, this dude's fucking
• 31:53
  not even that good. Like, I'm just going to say some
• 31:56
  names. A lot of people are on Brent
• 31:57
  Fayes, in my opinion. He makes decent songs, but the
• 32:02
  guy doesn't really sing that that well.
• 32:05
  The Ty Dolla Sign. The guy does not really sing
• 32:08
  that well and they're considered singers, Jacquees.
• 32:12
  It's the same fucking note in every single song about 50 times
• 32:17
  and he's considered a really good singer.
• 32:20
  He makes catchy songs, don't get me wrong, but it's when you sit
• 32:23
  here and you're in a field and you see half of these fucking
• 32:27
  people making it that aren't really that fucking good, or you
• 32:30
  going TikTok and you see all these people who aren't really
• 32:35
  that fucking good. All they're doing is taking
• 32:37
  another person's song and they're remixing it.
• 32:41
  They do have some good voices on TikTok, do not get me wrong.
• 32:43
  But a lot of them cannot make their own songs.
• 32:48
  And then the constant everybody who's heard my shit and listened
• 32:52
  to my shit or seen me, Why aren't you famous shit?
• 32:56
  I don't fucking know. That's not my that's not my
• 32:59
  decision to fucking make. Right, right.
• 33:01
  And that, like, eventually gets to you, too.
• 33:02
  It's like you're like what? I know you're trying to be
• 33:05
  supportive, but that wasn't very supportive.
• 33:07
  No, it's really not. And especially like.
• 33:09
  You know. Especially when people ask me
• 33:12
  like like the other podcast the other day that I did.
• 33:15
  Yeah, they were like, Oh well, what do you think about like
• 33:18
  Wichita and and Artisan? Wichita and I just flat out said
• 33:21
  they're fucking trash, There's a lot of art.
• 33:24
  I'm not going to say that. Let me rephrase that.
• 33:26
  They still need to work on their craft and I still need to work
• 33:28
  on my craft as well, but I feel like I'm a lot further ahead of
• 33:31
  them. But did not get the respect or
• 33:34
  do not get the support because they got some little coalition
• 33:37
  going on and I know these dudes personally, you know what I
• 33:40
  mean? So it's like they keep it inside
• 33:42
  their group and they're honestly really not even that good.
• 33:47
  It really bothers the shit out of me that I get more love from
• 33:50
  a place that I'm not from than my hometown.
• 33:55
  You know what I mean? So and then it goes back to the
• 33:57
  fact of when everybody says, Oh well, they just dished their
• 34:00
  hometown, They they changed. No, they didn't change.
• 34:02
  They just saw who was supporting them and they rather invest
• 34:04
  their time and money into them. And I straight up told them I
• 34:07
  will probably never do a show in Wichita to be 100% honest with
• 34:10
  you. And the reason I say that is
• 34:12
  because like I don't see the support when I start seeing some
• 34:14
  support. It seems like Wichita, they only
• 34:17
  support you when you you you have a name, you go anywhere
• 34:20
  else. You go to Atlanta, their artists
• 34:22
  don't don't have big names. They're going around bumping
• 34:24
  them. You go to Louisiana before Wayne
• 34:27
  and them got famous. They're bumping little Wayne.
• 34:28
  You go to Tampa, they're bumping Tampa artists.
• 34:31
  You go to Wichita, they're playing everybody else but
• 34:34
  people from Wichita. That's true, though, That's.
• 34:36
  True. You go to Cali, they pay Bay
• 34:38
  Area. They they love their own
• 34:40
  artists. Wichita does not love their
• 34:42
  artists. Why do you think nobody comes
• 34:43
  here? They don't know how to act when
• 34:45
  people come here and they don't fucking show real support.
• 34:49
  Yeah. It's simple.
• 34:51
  What would you say as us as people?
• 34:55
  Like people who support music, how can we help uplift our
• 35:00
  musical community here and try to change that?
• 35:04
  Like, what are things that you would like to see?
• 35:07
  Honestly, just more support and more outlets.
• 35:09
  Like if you were to get like those big artists down here, at
• 35:12
  least have somebody who can get in contact with them and have a
• 35:14
  local artist open up for them. It's as simple as that, yeah.
• 35:17
  Because that local artist, Yeah, yeah, you say you have ti come
• 35:20
  down here and you have. Be honest, One of my buddies who
• 35:25
  raps, he opens up for it's like, Oh yeah, open up for him.
• 35:28
  You got 15 minutes. You know what that 15 minutes
• 35:29
  can do for him? Oh yeah, yeah.
• 35:31
  That 15 minutes can literally change everything.
• 35:35
  It doesn't have to be 15 minutes.
• 35:36
  It can be one goddamn song, as long as the song is fucking
• 35:39
  nice. Yeah.
• 35:40
  That can change a lot of things, and next thing you know, he's
• 35:43
  getting invited to go open up somewhere else.
• 35:45
  What does he do? Call another local artist.
• 35:50
  Hey, you want to open up? If I ever got the chance to open
• 35:53
  up for somebody you know how many fucking people in the music
• 35:55
  and it's like in Wichita that I would call there are from
• 35:58
  Wichita. Then I'm like, hey, I got
• 36:01
  something don't make any fucking trash music you got it has to be
• 36:05
  fucking good. But you got to you know and I'm
• 36:08
  that guy. I would literally.
• 36:09
  I've called people and told them hey, you're going to change
• 36:11
  that. That's I'm not putting this shit
• 36:12
  out unless you change that. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:14
  Because that's not going to be attached to my name ever.
• 36:17
  No. No.
• 36:18
  Especially at this point now. No, but yeah, that's honestly, I
• 36:23
  feel like that's what it what it's what it's going to take an
• 36:25
  actual support. Like you guys will sit there,
• 36:28
  not you guys, but like people in general.
• 36:30
  Anybody will sit there and share a Drake post saying, oh, I'll
• 36:35
  give a fan of free fucking ticket when you can go buy that
• 36:37
  ticket for $60.00. But yet you got 15 million
• 36:41
  people sharing that, but they have a friend that has a
• 36:43
  business or something like that, that they won't even share or
• 36:47
  buy anything from and. I'm going to touch on something,
• 36:53
  Support black businesses. I hate hearing that shit because
• 36:57
  a lot of people don't support the black businesses that
• 36:59
  they're talking about. Because I've seen so many people
• 37:01
  online buying Gucci, Louie, Fendi, Pride and all that shit.
• 37:04
  But you got a locally owned boutique that nobody even goes
• 37:08
  to or spends money on. It's simple.
• 37:10
  That's on every aspect. I feel like you got to support
• 37:14
  your people or who you're around your community.
• 37:16
  Doesn't matter if you're white, black, Asian, Puerto Rican,
• 37:19
  anything. Support is the main thing that
• 37:21
  can takes support literally. Can break make a break an artist
• 37:25
  in all aspects? Yeah.
• 37:28
  So I mean, you pour your your heart and soul into it and to
• 37:32
  kind of see nothing come from it, it gets very frustrating at
• 37:36
  times. You know what I mean?
• 37:37
  To be 100,000 streams and realize you only made $84 off of
• 37:41
  it, It's fucking crazy. Yeah, like that's nothing.
• 37:46
  That's ridiculous. Yeah.
• 37:48
  And then it's like, OK, people are obviously listening, but
• 37:54
  then trying to get them to buy something, to kind of pull more
• 37:57
  money into you. Like I've thought about multiple
• 37:59
  times taking all my music off and put it on my own website to
• 38:02
  where they had to pay a dollar just to fucking stream it.
• 38:04
  But then you think about that aspect, Nobody's going to want
• 38:08
  to fucking do it. There's this.
• 38:10
  They're too lazy to do it. You know what?
• 38:12
  I mean like I see more artists. Like sometimes I I get envious
• 38:16
  to some artists like my buddy Sam P in Florida.
• 38:20
  He raps. He's decent, he's good.
• 38:23
  The amount of fucking support that dude gets is ungodly.
• 38:27
  He'll post something to have a fucking three day long story of
• 38:31
  just nothing but people reposting it.
• 38:33
  You know what I mean? I'm like that's fucking support
• 38:35
  you. Know what I mean?
• 38:37
  But then again, he's been in Florida for like 8-9 years.
• 38:40
  You know those people know him. He has a very good gym.
• 38:43
  He's cool ass dude, you know what I mean?
• 38:46
  So it's just like support can make can make a break anything
• 38:50
  and everything. Yeah, yeah.
• 38:53
  Hitting that share button makes a huge difference.
• 38:55
  Does. It's free.
• 38:56
  Yeah, it's fucking free, yeah. You know.
• 38:59
  Like you get more algorithm points too seconds to.
• 39:02
  Do it. You do in another.
• 39:03
  Let me. I'm gonna fucking touch on this
• 39:05
  too. Do you want a shot?
• 39:07
  Yeah, we definitely need one cuz.
• 39:09
  Pass me that but. Look here, there's a thing
• 39:14
  called real support, and there's a thing called fake support when
• 39:16
  you see traction happening. OK, as an artist, I pay
• 39:21
  attention to everything. All my analytics, numbers, all
• 39:24
  that, OK? I can see exactly where my music
• 39:26
  is being played. And then when I have random
• 39:29
  people in my inbox, oh, I knew you'd be something someday.
• 39:33
  I knew it was like, dude, you never talked to me in high
• 39:34
  school. You used to talk shit on me in
• 39:35
  high school. What do you mean?
• 39:37
  You know what I mean? Like, if you're going to, if
• 39:39
  you're going to support, it's cool, it's fine.
• 39:41
  But I'd rather have real support than people who are just
• 39:44
  opportunist. You know what?
• 39:45
  Yeah. It's almost like almost like
• 39:47
  they're just trying to like. Kind of catch the coattail a
• 39:50
  little bit with you or. Get something out.
• 39:53
  To look cool because you're now look, you're now hella cool.
• 39:55
  Yeah, and I've noticed that too. Like, I'm not even.
• 39:59
  Honestly, I don't even think I'm even on the cusp of even being
• 40:03
  an artist yet. You know what I mean?
• 40:04
  I'm still figuring things out. And the amount of people that
• 40:07
  I've noticed just trying to. Associate themselves with me
• 40:10
  just because, you know, I don't know, like it's fucking weird.
• 40:15
  Like, it's so weird. And like, I'll like, I don't
• 40:18
  know, man. It's just like some people.
• 40:19
  I feel like some people are just envious and it's it's not a
• 40:24
  problem to like, hey, yo dude, I appreciate what you're doing,
• 40:28
  but when it comes to doing anything you can to kind of like
• 40:32
  tarnish them moving forward, if that makes any kind of sense.
• 40:36
  Like give an excuse like, oh, he's good but.
• 40:40
  You know what I mean. Gotcha.
• 40:42
  Gotcha. Kind of thrown that little shade
• 40:43
  in. There, yeah.
• 40:45
  Yeah. Yeah, come on, man.
• 40:46
  I didn't do nothing to you, bro. All I did was put out a song.
• 40:50
  Yeah, yeah. Fuck.
• 40:53
  Maybe that's the name of the next song, but but you know
• 40:56
  what? You got my mind sparking right
• 41:01
  now. You're welcome.
• 41:02
  Make a voice note. Go ahead.
• 41:04
  Cheers to that. I made a mental note.
• 41:07
  Cheers, oh Lord. Yeah, touching on that.
• 41:11
  No, I did get a friend request like a day or two ago from
• 41:14
  somebody else. Like, I don't know who this
• 41:17
  person is. They probably saw me playing at
• 41:18
  a some show or whatever and I'd go to look at mutual friends or
• 41:22
  whatever. And like, I've never seen you
• 41:24
  around any of those people. Are you just adding people in
• 41:27
  like the scene or whatever to try to look cool?
• 41:29
  Make yourself look like, you know, people?
• 41:32
  Yeah, yeah dude, it gets, it gets very difficult in all
• 41:34
  aspects. If you think about it, man, it's
• 41:36
  hard to make like friends. It's hard to meet like like a
• 41:39
  significant other. When it start comes this cuz
• 41:41
  like everybody I have a saying. Everybody wants to date Columbus
• 41:45
  Berry until they date Columbus Berry.
• 41:47
  And they. Understand it.
• 41:49
  And it's not in a bad thing. It's the way I look.
• 41:52
  I get a lot of attention. I don't play into this shit
• 41:57
  though. I've never cheated in a
• 41:58
  relationship I've been in. So you know when I'm in a
• 42:00
  relationship and I'm in a relationship, but it's like they
• 42:03
  can't deal with it. I mean the last relationship I
• 42:05
  was in. We got an argument first thing
• 42:07
  she mentions my music. I'm like.
• 42:10
  Oh, Dang. I don't know.
• 42:12
  That's tough. It's like what?
• 42:13
  That was a personal job right there.
• 42:14
  I don't know how it was like that.
• 42:16
  Why don't you just continue singing songs about fucking
• 42:19
  women? How you want to fuck them?
• 42:20
  I'm like, wait. What?
• 42:22
  I don't know. I'd be so, so like I paint and I
• 42:26
  will like draw naked people. Like if I were ever to get a
• 42:29
  comment about that, I would be like what?
• 42:31
  Yo. I that literally took.
• 42:33
  Me by like cuz it's like one of the songs.
• 42:36
  Was about you. It's wrote the song literally
• 42:38
  after we dance. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:41
  What the fuck are you talking about?
• 42:43
  Like, no, I said that's that was the straw, right?
• 42:45
  That was one of the straws. You know, there's many.
• 42:47
  Yeah, but I was like, man, like, if you, if you're acting this
• 42:50
  way, now imagine if my shit starts catching traction.
• 42:54
  I gotta do these shows. I am an R&B singer who sings
• 42:57
  about fucking sex. A lot of it, baby.
• 42:59
  Making music. Baby making music.
• 43:01
  And I also dance. To baby making.
• 43:03
  Music to baby making music. So I have to like do, what do
• 43:07
  you want me to do in a Yeah, like what do you want me to do
• 43:10
  in a situation like that? Like you know what I mean?
• 43:12
  Like I'm not just and I'm a nice guy.
• 43:14
  So if I do a show like that or say I do, we're still together.
• 43:18
  I have a show with 1520 thousand people.
• 43:20
  You can't even handle it when. Fucking 30 people know me.
• 43:23
  Yeah. If I go to a show like that and
• 43:25
  I'm signing autographs, I have all these women literally
• 43:27
  throwing themselves at me. Wanting to sign a boob.
• 43:30
  Wanting me to do this and I could just do it out of like,
• 43:33
  OK, get the fuck out of my face, but.
• 43:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And.
• 43:35
  Your mind, it's like, Oh my God, he's probably, she's probably in
• 43:38
  his inbox and this, this and that, right?
• 43:40
  I'm like, bro, like that. Doesn't what you have more
• 43:44
  access to fucking people than I do.
• 43:46
  Doesn't matter if I'm fucking famous.
• 43:48
  All you got to do is I don't fucking know, and then you're on
• 43:51
  a boat. He's.
• 43:55
  Flying. Hey, ask her what she did cuz I
• 43:57
  want to get on a boat. You literally in Florida, you
• 43:59
  don't have to do shit. Oh damn, I need to move to
• 44:02
  Florida When? I tell you this, if I go on a
• 44:04
  dating app and I see a woman on a boat, I swipe left.
• 44:07
  So do I. I'm like, no, no.
• 44:10
  I've never heard that that. So do I.
• 44:13
  That's somebody's boat. Yeah.
• 44:16
  Whose boat is it? Somebody's boat.
• 44:18
  And she's always on vacation. Who the fuck is paying for those
• 44:21
  vacations, Mama? Who?
• 44:23
  I meant I'm not going. To say that, that's why.
• 44:26
  That's exactly why I wanted to say why, he said.
• 44:28
  Girls on boats I was like when I'm one day and then I see them
• 44:30
  on that boat it's left swipe for.
• 44:32
  Me because. I do not have a boat that you
• 44:33
  can go on. So you're going on somebody's
• 44:36
  boat and they ain't your girlfriend?
• 44:37
  Fuck it. I'm just going to say it.
• 44:39
  There's been a situation. Where I messed?
• 44:41
  With a with a girl that had a high amount of followers in the
• 44:44
  six figures and had no furniture in her apartment for like 3 or 4
• 44:49
  weeks. What?
• 44:51
  Yeah, for granted. It got lost when they got
• 44:53
  shipped, but she still had no apartment.
• 44:56
  Her parents are helping her. She's young girl, you know, her
• 44:58
  parents apparently came from a lot of money.
• 45:00
  A lot of these people don't see that.
• 45:02
  And I was literally there at some of the photos that she
• 45:04
  posted. I was literally 2 foot away when
• 45:07
  she took those photos and I'm sitting here looking at all the
• 45:10
  dudes fucking drool over these photos for granted.
• 45:13
  Me and her weren't actually a fucking thing.
• 45:15
  It's just like a thing that happened after 45 minutes to
• 45:17
  knowing her. But that's besides the point.
• 45:22
  And I was sitting here that that made me get a new perspective on
• 45:26
  on like Florida women. And I I'm not trying to
• 45:28
  categorize all of them, but it just seems like a good majority
• 45:32
  of them and a good majority of women now understand that the
• 45:37
  ball is in their court. I mean, the ball has always been
• 45:40
  in their court, but now they're actually starting to realize it
• 45:42
  a lot more. And I feel like women are
• 45:44
  actually being, I'm not gonna lie, being smart and leveraging
• 45:48
  that shit. If you're gonna do something,
• 45:49
  get some out of yeah, God forbid.
• 45:51
  It just won't be for me. Yeah, well, I mean, like, I
• 45:53
  think with that, right? Like, women are now also
• 45:56
  embracing their own sexuality because for so long, it's
• 45:59
  beautiful. You you couldn't or.
• 46:02
  Also it was. Like, you know when you look
• 46:05
  back in your generation and your family, like they don't ever
• 46:09
  talk about enjoying sex? Like if you have ever tried to
• 46:11
  have a conversation with your your mom about like they.
• 46:14
  Never had that conversation with.
• 46:15
  You well, the same thing. But like they like those types
• 46:18
  of things just were not a thing. And now it's finally in this.
• 46:24
  I mean and we're talking about we still had artists from a long
• 46:26
  time ago like even Trina. Like she's always rapped about.
• 46:29
  Her sexuality, which is awesome, but like, people are now
• 46:31
  sorting. Yeah.
• 46:33
  And she had A and that's what I'm trying to say.
• 46:35
  Like now we're trying to take back that sexuality that we
• 46:39
  have, but we were just never fully able to embrace.
• 46:42
  And yeah, some people have have capitalized all that.
• 46:46
  Dude. Like it's, it's.
• 46:47
  Fucking ridiculous. I had a friend all my I have a
• 46:50
  lot of girlfriends that are just like really close friends who
• 46:53
  had an only fans and she literally showed me the photos
• 46:56
  that she posted. It's the same photo.
• 46:58
  Yeah, in a different color thong and 500 people bought it.
• 47:03
  Yeah, again, I said what the fuck am I doing wrong?
• 47:08
  Tell me what? Ohh I'm a man.
• 47:10
  You're gonna bring the satin shirts into your only fans.
• 47:13
  That's how you're paying for. That's how you're paying for the
• 47:15
  LA trip on that No, we're gonna go into break.
• 47:18
  Oh no. God no.
• 47:19
  Fuck that shit. Hell no.
• 47:22
  This. Is a real 3/2. 1.
• 47:32
  I'm not getting my love. I need to catch my shot.
• 47:52
  And we're back, baby. This is Here's to you, The
• 47:55
  Podcast Late Night Edition, coming back to you with segment
• 48:00
  2 with our special guests, Columbus Berry.
• 48:04
  We've got the drinks made. Fanny was on the menu today.
• 48:08
  I feel like I have to match that energy now.
• 48:12
  OK, we are having a Tequila Berry tonight.
• 48:18
  You guys can't see but my eyebrows is great.
• 48:23
  Columbus over here says he loves a good tequila when making baby
• 48:28
  making music. Yo.
• 48:29
  Yeah, actually, who do? What was that sample of?
• 48:31
  I kind of thought it was about something when I was listening
• 48:33
  to that just now. I don't know.
• 48:36
  I'll send it to you though. Whoever it is, let them know I
• 48:38
  want some parts on that. Literally just thought I was
• 48:41
  thinking of something. And as soon as that came with
• 48:44
  wow, that sounds good. So anyways, yeah, we made a
• 48:48
  tequila Berry. We muddled A handful of
• 48:50
  raspberries, put an ounce of lemon juice.
• 48:53
  Oh, I forgot the simple syrup shit.
• 48:55
  I knew I was forgetting something. 2 ounces of tequila
• 48:58
  and then some that more ounces of tequila.
• 49:03
  Yeah, we did actually put more in his and then just top it off
• 49:06
  with some Lacroy coconut soda and that's how you get the
• 49:11
  tequila Berry. I like it.
• 49:14
  It's just as good as one of Emily's top two drinks.
• 49:18
  Yeah. I'm up there.
• 49:20
  You're up there. Damn, I'm good Get.
• 49:22
  My approval. What do you think, Columbus?
• 49:24
  This was for you. So what do you think?
• 49:26
  Black and the Berry? The sweeter juice.
• 49:31
  We should have mixed more berries.
• 49:32
  Actually, that would have been hella cute.
• 49:34
  I plead the 5th. But right before that, we were
• 49:41
  getting into some juicy conversations and we were going
• 49:45
  to come back with some dating topics.
• 49:49
  Yeah, we were talking about bitches on boats.
• 49:54
  Bitches ain't shit but boots and tricks, man.
• 49:58
  Got boats? And hoes?
• 50:00
  How's that song go again? Boats, Boats and hoes.
• 50:03
  How's that song go? No idea.
• 50:05
  Yeah, it's from Step Brothers. With their pink painted toes, I
• 50:10
  don't know. That was good.
• 50:12
  I've seen that. Movie in a long time.
• 50:14
  Damn Emily, Emily would have sang along with me.
• 50:19
  Call a rash. You probably out in the club
• 50:20
  twerker right now. I know that fucking hate that
• 50:24
  bitch. Alright.
• 50:25
  Anyways, so. I hear a new nickname for me is
• 50:27
  Sex in the City. Emily, I need more.
• 50:31
  I gotta know why this name just got given to somebody.
• 50:38
  Cuz Sex in the City was not Sex in the City.
• 50:41
  It wasn't. It wasn't.
• 50:43
  And I choose not to picture Emily like that, even though I
• 50:45
  know that's what she's like. Probably.
• 50:49
  I feel like that's why they should have done that.
• 50:50
  Be be be. Be she talk.
• 50:52
  Emily, whoever you are, I had nothing to do with that.
• 50:56
  Well, one of our last episodes, they were talking about Sex in
• 50:59
  the City and how they're big fans of it and.
• 51:01
  Oh yes, what? Sharon Brown.
• 51:03
  Yeah, it just stuck in my head. Emily is a bougie hell, that's
• 51:10
  probably why. That too.
• 51:13
  She's Halle Bougie. She's expensive, so I can never
• 51:17
  date her. Oh, wow.
• 51:20
  We we went to eat at this restaurant yesterday for lunch
• 51:23
  before we all headed back. Mmhmm.
• 51:27
  She was one of the last ones to get there.
• 51:30
  And I'll know she's like, send me the menu.
• 51:31
  We send it, somebody sends it to her, like the Yelp menu with all
• 51:34
  the reviews. And she's like, pick this place.
• 51:39
  I'm like, look, baby girl, I got Lunchable and a Capri sign.
• 51:42
  What? You wanna do the pizza?
• 51:45
  Lunchable with the two Oreos? Yeah.
• 51:47
  Now is is a place that me and my friend Mark had been plenty of
• 51:51
  times over the years and we liked it.
• 51:52
  And then once she got to the restaurant, saw the menu was
• 51:55
  like, oh, they got this, they got this.
• 51:56
  Oh, I wanna get that and that and that.
• 51:59
  This bitch that sounds like her. I was like, yeah, that sounds
• 52:03
  exactly like, oh Lord, yeah. Emily's expensive.
• 52:08
  Have you run into any expensive ladies?
• 52:13
  Just my ex-girlfriend. But honestly, I don't do a date
• 52:17
  like that anymore. To be honest.
• 52:20
  I had the emotional capacity for it and I'm not in a situation
• 52:25
  too right now. I got a lot of shit going on,
• 52:27
  you know, just freshly moving Dad searching for a better job,
• 52:33
  all that shit. So that kind of plays into it.
• 52:34
  I don't like getting into relationships and not being able
• 52:36
  to do the relationship with that.
• 52:38
  Makes sense, you know what I mean?
• 52:39
  Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. You can sit at home all day, but
• 52:43
  who wants to fucking do that? You know?
• 52:45
  I'm a very adventurous person, random, spontaneous.
• 52:47
  I like doing random shit. And if I can't do that, I don't
• 52:50
  need to be fucking dating. It's just simple as that.
• 52:53
  And it sucks sometimes because I'm like, fuck, kind of want to.
• 52:56
  But then again, I don't want to put somebody else in that kind
• 52:58
  of situation, you know what I mean?
• 52:59
  But then again, they're grown, and they decided they want to
• 53:01
  get in that situation. But then again, you know, I've
• 53:04
  been in a situation like that before with my exgirlfriend.
• 53:07
  And then everything got thrown in my face, You know what I
• 53:09
  mean? I was just in the job
• 53:11
  transition. Became a 911 dispatcher.
• 53:14
  She didn't like the hours, didn't work for her.
• 53:16
  She wants to do this. She wants me to get a different
• 53:19
  job, you know what I mean? And then it started affecting
• 53:21
  the way I was working. Ended up losing that job.
• 53:25
  Then it became a well, I got to support both of us.
• 53:27
  And no, the fuck you don't. I got money.
• 53:28
  What are you talking about? No, I didn't ask you to do this.
• 53:32
  Well, this is my future. I'm like, God damn, it's only
• 53:35
  been fucking five months, lady. What are you talking about?
• 53:39
  Come on, man, I love you. But be realistic, you know?
• 53:43
  But then again, she was used to dating dudes who got money, a
• 53:48
  lot of it, and abundance, like pro players and stuff like that.
• 53:51
  I'm not a pro player. They look like 1 not.
• 53:53
  You know what I mean? So dating with me is kind of
• 53:57
  impartial, if that makes any sense.
• 54:00
  OK. One question that did just come
• 54:02
  to mind for me is, and it'll be for both of you guys, is you
• 54:08
  said that it had only been like 5 months.
• 54:10
  And I was like, man, that's probably like maybe right around
• 54:12
  the end when like the honeymoon phase ends.
• 54:14
  Like how long does the, like the kind of honeymoon phase go for
• 54:18
  you guys? Ladies first?
• 54:20
  HM. That's hard for me.
• 54:26
  To answer because I have been single for so long and you know
• 54:31
  that. Yeah.
• 54:32
  And that's what I'm trying to say like and you know that my
• 54:36
  last relationship. I don't know.
• 54:38
  I would say it depends on if we get in an argument, right.
• 54:42
  So maybe three months. And I'm not saying that I
• 54:45
  sparked that argument either. Who's just not the best
• 54:50
  communicator? And would?
• 54:53
  Like if something was brought up, would be like triggered and
• 54:57
  would be dismissive and would be like, I don't want to argue and
• 55:01
  it would be like, I'm just having a conversation, what are
• 55:03
  you talking about? So like, I I do think that some
• 55:06
  people are just not quite ready to work on communication skills,
• 55:12
  you know, they just kind of go through that motion.
• 55:14
  But I guess, like in a perfect world, hopefully the honeymoon
• 55:18
  phase never ends. Right.
• 55:20
  Like wouldn't that wouldn't that be ideal or at least like in
• 55:23
  terms of like you still know, like I would like the maybe I'm
• 55:26
  too like romanticizing it but like where you could still oh OK
• 55:31
  well like where you can still have a bad day and that's still
• 55:36
  your person at the end of the day.
• 55:38
  And and for me, like being able to like the honeymoon phase
• 55:41
  isn't just like sexual intimate things in terms of that aspect,
• 55:45
  but intimate see in terms of like.
• 55:48
  We're not having a conversation, but we're still next to each
• 55:51
  other. You're working on something?
• 55:53
  Yeah, like people don't understand that intimacy is not
• 55:56
  sex. And yeah, see it's it's a close
• 55:58
  quarters. Yeah, it's conversation.
• 56:00
  It's just. Being or not even conversation.
• 56:02
  Like presents. Yeah, like for me, for me.
• 56:05
  Like when I was dating before him or trying to like I was
• 56:10
  working on so many different things that for me like.
• 56:13
  As long as, like if Homeboy was also working on something, for
• 56:16
  me it's enough to just be in the same vicinity and also be
• 56:20
  working on my own stuff because I can easily take a laptop and
• 56:22
  work on something, you know? And so if he was working on
• 56:26
  whatever and I just worked there too, like for me that that was
• 56:29
  enough for me. Like that meant a lot.
• 56:32
  Like, but that's also because like, mine's like quality time.
• 56:36
  I love languages, quality time. So that's probably an act of
• 56:40
  service. So yeah, so hopefully.
• 56:43
  I don't know. In a perfect world, the
• 56:45
  honeymoon phase never, never really goes away.
• 56:49
  Yeah, I'm a little bit indifferent, but you know.
• 56:53
  Yeah. What's your answer?
• 56:54
  I don't know. I don't have another experience
• 56:56
  dating cuz I don't think your answer is not wrong, your answer
• 56:58
  is is catered to you. But I'm gonna be honest, a lot
• 57:03
  of men know exactly how long they're gonna be with a woman
• 57:05
  before they are with a woman. I can see a woman and be like
• 57:10
  shit. We're gonna be together for a
• 57:11
  minute or shit. This is not, you know, it's how
• 57:17
  we act on it. And there might be a lot of men
• 57:20
  who this may not relate to, but in my opinion, every single
• 57:24
  woman that I've been with or dated or talked to, I knew
• 57:26
  exactly what that relationship was going to be before I even
• 57:30
  went into it when I first met them.
• 57:31
  Is that do you think like 'cause you've made your own
• 57:33
  expectations? No, it wasn't an expectation.
• 57:36
  I've heard guys say that a lot that guys know.
• 57:39
  Right away or I've heard that. No, it was that comment.
• 57:42
  No, it's not an no, it's not. It's not.
• 57:47
  Maybe for some other men, but I'm a fuck.
• 57:49
  I hate even saying this, but I'm a different fucking breeder guy.
• 57:53
  I'm very realistic. I'm very, you know, I hear you
• 57:57
  say you wish everything could be the honeymoon thing, but I'm
• 57:59
  very realistic. I know there's going to be
• 58:00
  arguments and I love that you said I love that you said that
• 58:04
  as long as it comes back to you know, you two are together.
• 58:08
  Like when I and I let my exgirlfriend know, regardless of
• 58:11
  how disrespectful she was to me, probably shouldn't have snuck
• 58:14
  around as long as I did that. At the end of the day, I need
• 58:18
  you to know that I always love you.
• 58:19
  You know what I mean? Like, no matter how mad we get,
• 58:24
  we need to come back to love. Like know that we love each
• 58:27
  other, You know, we getting heated arguments and she'd
• 58:31
  scream and I haven't raised my voice in 15 years.
• 58:36
  And I would raise my voice and then I'll be like you fucking
• 58:40
  done. And then she like.
• 58:43
  I can't believe this. I'm like, are you done?
• 58:48
  I said I I don't yell. I don't like yelling.
• 58:51
  I just don't. First off, it's disrespectful.
• 58:54
  Second off, I love you. I don't want to.
• 58:55
  You know what I mean? And that's that's another thing.
• 59:00
  Why I don't date is because, well, I'm kind of veering from
• 59:06
  it because one I'm not. I'm, you know, I'm almost 30,
• 59:10
  Quite frankly, I don't have my shit together.
• 59:12
  You know what I mean? A lot of women don't want a guy
• 59:14
  who don't have their shit together, but in reality, a lot
• 59:16
  of guys don't have their shit together until their early 30s
• 59:18
  or mid 30s. And there are a select fewer
• 59:22
  guys who do have their shit together and kudos to them.
• 59:24
  But it's a learning curve for men, you know, as it is a
• 59:27
  learning curve for women. And I feel like it's not being
• 59:31
  accepted as much as a man, you know, in the dating atmosphere,
• 59:36
  like a woman can have no job, be living with her parents and you
• 59:43
  know, it's okay the guys willing to support them.
• 59:47
  But the moment a man doesn't have something he's he's, he's
• 59:51
  worthless. And that's one thing that it
• 59:53
  really I felt like in my last relationship because it got
• 59:57
  thrown on me so much, you know, I got.
• 59:59
  That's why I don't. Like to let people get close.
• 1:00:05
  It's because that shit damaged me.
• 1:00:09
  I'm not going to lie, it did. It did.
• 1:00:11
  So whenever it comes to like dating and things of that
• 1:00:14
  nature, it's either I'm upfront or I avoid it.
• 1:00:19
  And I'm learning to be just be, like, upfront and be like, yo, I
• 1:00:23
  got a lot of shit going on. And as much as I would love to
• 1:00:26
  do that, I'm not going to put you in a situation where it robs
• 1:00:29
  you of anything or I'm in the way of somebody else who can
• 1:00:33
  give you the things that I can't give you at this present moment.
• 1:00:36
  And I'm not going to sit here and ask you to wait around
• 1:00:38
  because that's bullshit. You don't need to waste your
• 1:00:40
  time. Time is valuable.
• 1:00:42
  If I can't step up to the plate right now, which I can't,
• 1:00:46
  there's no point in even continuing this conversation.
• 1:00:50
  Because at this point, not only am I wasting my time, I'm
• 1:00:55
  wasting somebody else's time. We didn't ask for that.
• 1:00:58
  You know, I'm. I'm considered of everybody
• 1:01:00
  else's time around me. You know what I mean?
• 1:01:01
  I'm not a disrespectful dude. I don't like wasting people time
• 1:01:05
  and I take take relationships serious.
• 1:01:10
  My parents have been together for 30 plus years and married
• 1:01:13
  still to this day. All I've known is relationships,
• 1:01:17
  you know, and I go into each relationship different, you
• 1:01:21
  know, and I've been cheated on every single relationship.
• 1:01:25
  So and you know, I've owned up to everything I've done wrong in
• 1:01:29
  the relationship. The last relationship I wasn't
• 1:01:33
  cheated on, but I was disrespected based off my
• 1:01:39
  actions of what I did, which I didn't consider anything
• 1:01:45
  terrible shouldn't have done. It was disrespectful, but in the
• 1:01:49
  last relationship before that, that was that was tolerable.
• 1:01:53
  You know what I mean. She didn't care, but then again,
• 1:01:55
  she was from a different culture.
• 1:01:56
  She was Australian from Australia, so everything over
• 1:01:59
  there was a lot more relaxed. So that was my dealing.
• 1:02:01
  I messed that part up. But she failed to take
• 1:02:05
  accountability for everything else after that.
• 1:02:07
  You don't get to treat me like shit.
• 1:02:08
  You don't get to act a certain way.
• 1:02:10
  You don't get to do this just because I did that.
• 1:02:11
  Either you get over it or you don't.
• 1:02:13
  I didn't cheat on you. Whether you want to say that's
• 1:02:16
  cheating, okay, You're just doing that to kind of skew the
• 1:02:21
  line in my opinion. But hey, everybody's entitled to
• 1:02:24
  their own feelings. I respect that, you know, so I
• 1:02:26
  ate that bullet. So when it comes to dating it,
• 1:02:33
  it takes a lot out of me. That's one of the reasons why
• 1:02:35
  I'm I'm a very fucking passionate person and I'm very
• 1:02:39
  selfless and I can't. I don't love, I am love.
• 1:02:42
  I can't help but to do that. So it gets in a very dangerous
• 1:02:46
  spot for me, mentally and emotionally, whenever there's a
• 1:02:49
  relationship or when it comes to bearing a relationship or
• 1:02:52
  getting to know somebody. Because yeah, I get very fucking
• 1:02:56
  attached. Yeah, I can't help but love
• 1:03:00
  somebody, you know? I don't care if I've known you
• 1:03:03
  for a day. I don't care if I've known you.
• 1:03:04
  For an hour. Fuck, I love you.
• 1:03:06
  You need to hear that shit. You know what I mean.
• 1:03:08
  It may not be in love with you, but I have a certain type of
• 1:03:11
  love for you to have a conversation with you.
• 1:03:14
  Because I have. You love our podcast?
• 1:03:16
  Yes, absolutely. Yeah, I was about to make a
• 1:03:18
  comment about being here more often, but you know.
• 1:03:20
  Oh, keep going. Keep going.
• 1:03:22
  OK, my bad. My bad I.
• 1:03:24
  Cut you off, but yeah, man, it's it's it's very deep for me, you
• 1:03:29
  know what I mean? It's like I'm very big on energy
• 1:03:32
  now that I am. I'm.
• 1:03:33
  I'm very big on fucking energy. I'm very big on that, you know?
• 1:03:39
  Yeah, I can walk in any club. Yeah.
• 1:03:40
  I can go home with any woman if I put my mind to it and just
• 1:03:43
  want to, But I choose not to do that.
• 1:03:48
  I may talk shit sometimes just to talk shit, but I'll let it be
• 1:03:50
  known, you know? I've had situations where
• 1:03:54
  actually when I fucking just first got back here, I went to
• 1:03:56
  pump house with a buddy to get a drink in the waitress.
• 1:03:59
  Soon as I walk in there just literally starts throwing it at
• 1:04:02
  me and I made everybody sign the NDA.
• 1:04:05
  Just. As a joke, I turned it into a.
• 1:04:07
  Fucking joke. I turned it into a joke I
• 1:04:09
  basically said I put under line. I'm talking very sexual to
• 1:04:16
  Columbus. Anything that happens after this
• 1:04:18
  point is not on Columbus. Witnesses and I made everybody.
• 1:04:21
  No, my God. As a joke.
• 1:04:23
  You put that on a napkin. I put it on a fucking piece of
• 1:04:25
  paper. I made her go get some paper and
• 1:04:28
  I made her go make copies. And as soon as she walks away to
• 1:04:32
  go help a table one of the other bartenders, like, that's just
• 1:04:34
  how she is. So are you.
• 1:04:35
  And I was like, no, I'm not going to do it.
• 1:04:37
  She's like, wait, what? I said, no, I said not having
• 1:04:39
  sex with that fucking woman and she has my number.
• 1:04:42
  I mean, she can hit me up, but. Chances are probably not gonna
• 1:04:45
  reply and nothing's gonna fucking happen.
• 1:04:48
  She's gonna have the red receipt.
• 1:04:49
  Yeah, definitely. I mean, I texted her.
• 1:04:51
  I texted her like maybe twice. And then I was just like not
• 1:04:54
  having it because I hear a lot of things, You know what I mean?
• 1:04:59
  You know, I hear multiple women say they'd Take Me Out on a
• 1:05:01
  date. I don't need you to fucking Take
• 1:05:03
  Me Out on a date. I mean, it would be nice to feel
• 1:05:06
  appreciated because I haven't felt appreciated in a very long
• 1:05:08
  fucking time when it comes to women.
• 1:05:10
  But like, I don't need to do that shit.
• 1:05:12
  I don't know. Like, I don't need to do any of
• 1:05:13
  that stuff. We can go on a fucking walk and
• 1:05:14
  I'll be content. It doesn't take much to satisfy
• 1:05:17
  me. It's just, like you said,
• 1:05:19
  somebody's presence and being there is.
• 1:05:21
  It's a lot more and it Trump's anything.
• 1:05:23
  And I'm a loyal fucking dude, quote, UN quote, from one of my
• 1:05:27
  exes. I knew you weren't going
• 1:05:28
  anywhere because you were loyal. Probably one of my biggest
• 1:05:32
  downfalls in that relationship. Should have caught in a lot of
• 1:05:35
  my relationships. I couldn't.
• 1:05:36
  I should have called it quits. Tell me, in what situation do
• 1:05:39
  you have a boyfriend who is around half naked women all day
• 1:05:43
  and does not even look in that direction?
• 1:05:45
  Tell me most men would cave, especially when the women look
• 1:05:49
  very good and are throwing themselves at you.
• 1:05:52
  Didn't look in any direction. Didn't do it.
• 1:05:53
  I'm in a relationship. Don't fucking touch me.
• 1:05:56
  Back the fuck up. I'm an asshole when I'm in a
• 1:05:57
  relationship because not only do I need to protect her, I need to
• 1:06:05
  protect my image of her. People know I'm in a
• 1:06:08
  relationship and they see me with her whether if I post it or
• 1:06:11
  not and then somebody sees me out.
• 1:06:14
  I don't want to take that risk of knowing that I disrespected
• 1:06:17
  you in front of everybody. That's just not my Forte.
• 1:06:20
  No, my my Forte is protecting my woman at all times when it comes
• 1:06:23
  to like a relationship and when it comes to how she's seen with
• 1:06:26
  me, don't care. You can take my phone post on
• 1:06:29
  anything, do whatever you want. You got passwords and anything.
• 1:06:32
  Do what the fuck you want. I don't care.
• 1:06:34
  I don't have anything to hide. So relationships are very
• 1:06:38
  serious to me, and it's getting to point now where being 29
• 1:06:42
  years old and going through this weird transition, I'm going in
• 1:06:45
  now. I want to badly, but I am
• 1:06:50
  incapable at the time. But I'm not going to sit here
• 1:06:55
  and ask somebody to sit here and oh, let's see if it is, no.
• 1:06:59
  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because you might walk into
• 1:07:03
  fucking Whole Foods and somebody might ask for your number.
• 1:07:06
  You need to take that opportunity because it's very
• 1:07:10
  fucking rare. 90% of the time when you meet somebody out like
• 1:07:12
  that, you probably will never see them again out.
• 1:07:15
  Because they don't go out, they sit at home.
• 1:07:17
  They protect their peace, right? Going out every single weekend,
• 1:07:23
  like there's been points where I've had to fucking.
• 1:07:24
  Just. Friends, I've had to unfollow
• 1:07:27
  them on shit because I'm tired of seeing them fucking party.
• 1:07:29
  I'm tired of them living a life, and I know for a fact that
• 1:07:32
  they're not paying for all this shit and they're not doing
• 1:07:34
  anything like that. I don't want to get in that
• 1:07:35
  mindset to where I feel like I need to be out to feel included,
• 1:07:39
  you know? I need to kind of focus more on
• 1:07:42
  myself, get my shit together that way when it comes to it,
• 1:07:46
  because I want kids, I want a wife, and I've made that very
• 1:07:50
  fucking clear. Everybody knows this.
• 1:07:54
  I want a daughter. Multiple.
• 1:07:56
  I'm going to be a fucking girl. Dad, I fucking.
• 1:08:00
  That's something about it. I've had visions of my children,
• 1:08:03
  everything. Fun fact, my mom had visions.
• 1:08:09
  She was going to marry a musician and have two boys by
• 1:08:13
  him. My dad was a my dad was a
• 1:08:17
  musician. He said Oh no, this ain't
• 1:08:20
  happening. He thought me and my brother
• 1:08:22
  were going to be girls. She was on birth control twice.
• 1:08:25
  Both times two boys. Oh damn me and my brother.
• 1:08:30
  I had a vision multiple times of my two children just did not see
• 1:08:34
  who their mother was and it haunted me for years.
• 1:08:39
  I have it often. Like, I know what my children
• 1:08:42
  gonna look like and it's fucking like it's just like, shit, yeah.
• 1:08:47
  And my hair was a little bit longer than it is now.
• 1:08:50
  You're like it's it's coming soon, it's within, it's with the
• 1:08:53
  horizon. Literally coming soon.
• 1:08:57
  So it was probably in the next 5-5 years or so, but I was.
• 1:09:01
  Like fucking. Christ.
• 1:09:02
  But it's it's a lot more to dating man than people think
• 1:09:06
  man. Like now it's people just date
• 1:09:09
  within with you have to date with intention and not with with
• 1:09:12
  malice. Like, you know what I mean?
• 1:09:14
  Not just to get something out of it.
• 1:09:15
  And I feel like that's what a lot of dating is now.
• 1:09:18
  It's about social status and it's about, you know, what you
• 1:09:21
  can get out of the situation. A lot of these people, they get
• 1:09:24
  into relationships. It's like, oh, what do you bring
• 1:09:27
  to the table? You're saying that, but
• 1:09:29
  literally, what do you bring to the table?
• 1:09:30
  Bring nothing. There's a table set for two, but
• 1:09:34
  if you're going to just bring yourself and pull your chair and
• 1:09:36
  that's not, that's not, that's not equivalent.
• 1:09:39
  Yeah, if there's silverware there, bring a fucking plate.
• 1:09:42
  If there's plates and silverware, bring some napkins,
• 1:09:47
  arrange the table, do something. That sounds like a song.
• 1:09:50
  Sounds like you're making a song right now.
• 1:09:51
  I am. You're making a song right now.
• 1:09:53
  Really don't notice I'm putting shit together in my head, right?
• 1:09:55
  Now, yeah, kind of people. You are hella making a song
• 1:09:57
  right now it's. Gonna happen.
• 1:09:59
  It's gonna happen. All night.
• 1:10:00
  Yeah, it's gonna fuck it out. It's.
• 1:10:01
  Gonna be the music video for bitches and boats.
• 1:10:04
  Hold on, we're gonna. Puts me in a bad.
• 1:10:07
  No, we're gonna have to say women in boats, cuz I don't
• 1:10:10
  refer to women as bitches. So I'm sorry okay.
• 1:10:12
  So it's gonna have to be. Caught me in like 2 years after
• 1:10:16
  I feel. More confident in the base look.
• 1:10:19
  Let me just tell you this, Florida, nobody gives a fuck.
• 1:10:24
  I'm gonna be honest with you. Nobody, you know, Maybe that's
• 1:10:27
  why I need to go over there then?
• 1:10:28
  Dude, I'm telling you, like when I when I tell people to move to
• 1:10:31
  Florida, it's not because it's not sorry.
• 1:10:36
  No, it's OK. No, no, Sit down.
• 1:10:38
  We're good. It's just little water.
• 1:10:40
  Ain't nothing. Little water's gonna hurt.
• 1:10:41
  I've been in water before. I think it's like going.
• 1:10:43
  It's attracted to you. Let me go get.
• 1:10:45
  Something look at it. Look at it.
• 1:10:46
  Oh, look at it. It's coming towards.
• 1:10:47
  Me, I told you. It's fine.
• 1:10:49
  It's fine. It's fine.
• 1:10:49
  It's fine. It's fine.
• 1:10:51
  It's fine. I'll block it from going off.
• 1:10:53
  We're going to pause this. We're going to keep going.
• 1:10:55
  We'll have to pause it. OK?
• 1:10:57
  But yeah, it's like, see what else they can get out of it,
• 1:11:02
  man. It's just like nobody's dating
• 1:11:04
  to date anymore and people are too expendable.
• 1:11:07
  Like it. Feel like everybody thinks that
• 1:11:09
  they could just oh, if we get in the argument, oh, I got 15 other
• 1:11:14
  women or 15 other men that are date me anytime.
• 1:11:16
  Fuck you. You.
• 1:11:17
  Know what I mean? Nobody wants to fight for a
• 1:11:18
  relationship anymore. Everybody wants a relationship,
• 1:11:21
  but nobody wants to fight behind it all right?
• 1:11:22
  Or stand behind it. There's there's another thing
• 1:11:25
  from when you're getting disrespected, don't stand around
• 1:11:28
  for that shit. But when it comes to you having
• 1:11:30
  a just a simple ass argument and you don't want to work through
• 1:11:33
  it, that's the problem. That's another reason why I
• 1:11:36
  don't want to date, because nobody actually wants to fight
• 1:11:37
  for a relationship. And quite frankly, I don't have
• 1:11:41
  my shit together just yet. I'm working on that.
• 1:11:44
  So yeah, you guys should see how she's doing the circular motion.
• 1:11:49
  She's like a missus. Miyagi over here.
• 1:11:53
  Thank you. I appreciate you, O.
• 1:11:56
  K real quick, what is your definition of a date?
• 1:12:00
  A date? Yeah. 101 time?
• 1:12:03
  That's a good question. 101 time That date can be literally
• 1:12:06
  anything. I've got to the point now where
• 1:12:09
  I do not do traditional dates on the first date because I just
• 1:12:15
  feel like with today's society it's just to get a free fucking
• 1:12:18
  meal, to be honest with you. So we're going to go, I got a
• 1:12:21
  fucking hammock. We can go hammock and talk.
• 1:12:24
  I'll bring some wine. We could talk.
• 1:12:25
  We can get fucking do a puzzle or something.
• 1:12:27
  We can do something. It's too much shit to do out
• 1:12:30
  here rather than sit in front of each other and be awkward and
• 1:12:33
  not know what to talk about on the first fucking date.
• 1:12:36
  And a lot of people sit here and say, oh, what?
• 1:12:38
  I don't fucking like movies on the first date.
• 1:12:40
  OK, why don't you go to a movie first, then you can go to dinner
• 1:12:43
  after. That way you have something to
• 1:12:44
  fucking talk about. You don't think about that
• 1:12:47
  aspect of it. Or why don't you just go to a
• 1:12:52
  beach, watch the sunset, and just talk about life?
• 1:12:55
  And then if we feel like we want to have dinner or something like
• 1:12:57
  that, we can go fucking do that the next time.
• 1:13:00
  I feel like this generation is so worried about the upfront
• 1:13:03
  benefits, they don't think about anything else.
• 1:13:06
  They just think about what they can tell their friends.
• 1:13:08
  In my opinion, it's like, Oh yeah, we went to fucking the
• 1:13:13
  meat market. It's expensive.
• 1:13:14
  Place down the fucking temp. Oh, he must have some fucking
• 1:13:17
  money or something like that. Yeah, we're going to see where
• 1:13:19
  we can go next. We probably didn't like.
• 1:13:21
  It's just fucking. It's so weird, man.
• 1:13:24
  Like, no, sorry to say this. Any women that I run across in
• 1:13:28
  the next 2 1/2 years, I'm not buying you dinner on the first
• 1:13:31
  night. We're going to go experience
• 1:13:32
  something first. I want to know your character
• 1:13:36
  before we end up doing some of that.
• 1:13:37
  It might take two or three times, but I need to know your
• 1:13:39
  character to know what you're actually here for because it's
• 1:13:42
  been too many times where I've taken a woman out of dating.
• 1:13:45
  At the end of the day, she has to get up and go to the restroom
• 1:13:49
  right? Conveniently as a check to you
• 1:13:51
  brought out. I was like, I was like, what
• 1:13:54
  you've been left? No.
• 1:13:56
  Like, this is shitty shit like that.
• 1:13:58
  Like, it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense to me.
• 1:14:00
  In my opinion. I'm just like bro.
• 1:14:03
  If I ask you, I'm going to pay for it.
• 1:14:06
  You don't have to worry about that.
• 1:14:09
  If you ask me, that's where. That's where the line gets
• 1:14:14
  drawn. You know what I mean?
• 1:14:16
  I will offer to pay for it. But if you sit here and ask me
• 1:14:19
  like you go out of your way and be like, hey, let's go to dinner
• 1:14:23
  and then you get up when the chest getting brought brought to
• 1:14:27
  us, I know what it is. I'm going to pay for it anyway.
• 1:14:30
  But that is a strike in my mind. Yeah, that's a huge strike that
• 1:14:35
  just lets me know. Is that a common practice?
• 1:14:38
  What? Like that people do that.
• 1:14:41
  Like I I. Haven't Has that happened to
• 1:14:42
  you? I haven't.
• 1:14:43
  I haven't had it to me that that's I wonder.
• 1:14:45
  Twice. I wonder if that's like a
• 1:14:46
  Florida thing. No.
• 1:14:48
  And it happened in Virginia. And it happened, uh, once in
• 1:14:50
  Florida. Hmm.
• 1:14:52
  Damn. I didn't be doing shit like
• 1:14:53
  this. I don't do nothing.
• 1:14:55
  Yeah, I'm like. You're a gym.
• 1:14:56
  Except know it. I need to take some notes.
• 1:14:58
  Damn. You're you're a fucking gym
• 1:15:00
  because these some of these girls out here, I'm not gonna
• 1:15:03
  say women. Some of these girls out here
• 1:15:05
  really got it fucked up. Well, I guess like that goes
• 1:15:09
  both ways. And men, yeah.
• 1:15:10
  Yeah, like, honestly. Yeah, like they've been around
• 1:15:13
  some shitty people. Like, I have dude friends.
• 1:15:16
  That like, girlfriend is 9 months fucking pregnant.
• 1:15:20
  You're at the club. What the fuck are you doing?
• 1:15:22
  Oh man. Oh, we're arguing right now.
• 1:15:24
  Get your ass back home. That's the mother.
• 1:15:26
  Your fucking child, bro. I don't get fucking.
• 1:15:29
  You're arguing. You better massage her feet
• 1:15:30
  while you argue. Go get her some fucking Pickles
• 1:15:32
  or something, bro. You you got y'all are fucking
• 1:15:35
  up, man. Y'all don't understand how
• 1:15:37
  beautiful that fucking is. This woman is for nine months
• 1:15:40
  has carried your fucking child. You need to, I don't care how.
• 1:15:45
  There are certain situations where you just got to be like,
• 1:15:47
  OK, like you, but you got to understand like their hormones
• 1:15:51
  and stuff like that is way out of whack.
• 1:15:53
  You know how dangerous it is for a woman to have a baby.
• 1:15:57
  They can literally die. They can literally die 2020.
• 1:15:59
  Yeah, they can. Still die from.
• 1:16:00
  Having a baby still die from having a baby and complications
• 1:16:03
  crazy. And the baby can die and then
• 1:16:05
  you have to worry about the postpartum.
• 1:16:07
  The women. Women go through a lot when it
• 1:16:08
  comes to childbirth. That's why, like, I can't
• 1:16:11
  understand. In my opinion, pregnant women
• 1:16:13
  are the most beautiful women in the world to me.
• 1:16:15
  Like, I will literally walk up to a pregnant woman like you are
• 1:16:17
  fucking beautiful. And the appreciation, it's not
• 1:16:21
  even like a hit, hit on thing. It's like a it's an
• 1:16:23
  appreciation. Yeah.
• 1:16:24
  Yeah, like you were bringing life into this world and a lot
• 1:16:27
  of guys who cheat on their pregnant was fucking.
• 1:16:29
  I don't understand. Yeah, I just don't understand
• 1:16:34
  that make any sense to me. Yeah, as I said, my tequila.
• 1:16:38
  So switch off topics, though we went pretty deep, unless you
• 1:16:42
  want to still add some other. Do you have any other dating
• 1:16:44
  questions? We can do?
• 1:16:46
  Whatever. No, not really.
• 1:16:47
  But I mean, we can go back so. You, you, you brung up that your
• 1:16:52
  your mom had visions of your dad and you know that she was going
• 1:16:56
  to meet a musician and have a couple kids.
• 1:16:59
  Yeah. Tell us a little bit more about
• 1:17:04
  how your dad was a musician like did.
• 1:17:07
  Was that a lot of influence of you going into into making music
• 1:17:11
  like that He's sing around the house when you're young.
• 1:17:13
  And everything. He built a studio in our
• 1:17:16
  basement, like in professional studio over 20 years.
• 1:17:18
  Wow. Damn, it's been there for over
• 1:17:21
  20 years. That's where you've been at.
• 1:17:23
  Yeah. Recently.
• 1:17:24
  Okay. Yeah.
• 1:17:25
  Yeah. So I mean, whole family.
• 1:17:28
  I mean, I've always been the one to not do what everybody wants
• 1:17:31
  me to do. So I did the opposite.
• 1:17:33
  Now, being older, he tried to sit me down and play a piano.
• 1:17:37
  Tried to sit me down and play a keyboard.
• 1:17:39
  Yeah, play drums. But he tried to get me musically
• 1:17:42
  and something the fact that he wanted me to do it, I didn't
• 1:17:44
  want to do it just. Being fucking rebellious little
• 1:17:46
  bit. Just being sightful, you're like
• 1:17:48
  they wanna. Be They wanted me to play
• 1:17:49
  football because I was nationally good at football.
• 1:17:51
  You're like, fuck that. I fucking wrestled out of all
• 1:17:55
  things. I'm a read a book, you know.
• 1:17:58
  Yeah, exactly. That's.
• 1:17:58
  What it did like, there's no doubt in my mind.
• 1:18:02
  There's no doubt in my mind if I would have played football when
• 1:18:05
  they wanted me to play football and actually apply myself with
• 1:18:07
  it, I'd be professional right now.
• 1:18:10
  I mean, my uncle was a coach for Nebraska Hustlers.
• 1:18:13
  Then he went to the Oakland Raiders at one point.
• 1:18:15
  Then he went to Michigan, then he was at Minnesota.
• 1:18:17
  Like, it might have been like a, hey, get on your shit.
• 1:18:21
  And I can see if they want to, you know, kind of give you a
• 1:18:25
  scholarship to come Nebraska and stuff like that.
• 1:18:27
  But then I didn't want the handout because then I'm always
• 1:18:29
  going to be known as the coach's nephew, you know?
• 1:18:33
  So that's another reason why I didn't want to get into it,
• 1:18:34
  because I was fucking really good at football.
• 1:18:36
  I went to the football camp. They gave me the actual gloves
• 1:18:39
  that they play in, the actual clease that they play in and
• 1:18:45
  they, I constantly got asked every single day.
• 1:18:48
  So you've never played football, So no.
• 1:18:51
  And they're like, what? I'm like, I'm just an athlete
• 1:18:54
  like come on out and they had me playing corner and they had me
• 1:18:58
  playing rob receiver and I was good at both of them.
• 1:19:01
  That was good on defense and offense.
• 1:19:02
  It was like, now how the fuck does he not play football?
• 1:19:06
  And I'm like because everybody wants me.
• 1:19:08
  To yeah, I was about to say like because they want me to and I
• 1:19:10
  don't want to if. They want to if I swear to I
• 1:19:12
  swear to Bob. If they said wrestle Bob.
• 1:19:15
  Yeah. Is that what you said?
• 1:19:17
  Yeah. Bob, you swear to?
• 1:19:18
  Bob, shout out Riley. Jesus, that's one of my exes.
• 1:19:23
  She used to say that. Yeah, I swear to Bob Columbus.
• 1:19:27
  But yeah, like if they would have said Columbus wrestle, I
• 1:19:30
  would have played football. 90% of the time I think I would have
• 1:19:34
  played football. It's a reverse.
• 1:19:35
  Psychology worked back then. Definitely didn't.
• 1:19:39
  Definitely did not. Not in my mind.
• 1:19:41
  But yeah, I mean, no. He had no influence on anything
• 1:19:43
  I did. When it comes to music, I just
• 1:19:48
  said fuck it. I want to do it like I used to
• 1:19:51
  rap. I actually was really, really
• 1:19:54
  good at rapping at one point. Like really, really good.
• 1:19:59
  Like I could sit there and freestyle probably for 15
• 1:20:01
  minutes and while people throwing random words and
• 1:20:05
  literally. Freestyle for long periods of
• 1:20:07
  time, but I just never at that point.
• 1:20:11
  I hadn't recorded in like 6 years at that point when I was
• 1:20:14
  doing it like that, but I just didn't want to fucking rap.
• 1:20:17
  I didn't want to, I didn't want to be labeled as a fucking
• 1:20:20
  rapper, like you know what I mean?
• 1:20:21
  It's just something that came with the stigma of rapper that I
• 1:20:25
  didn't like, especially where music was heading towards, you
• 1:20:27
  know what I mean? So now do you like that label of
• 1:20:32
  R&B artists or no? Did we mess up by introducing
• 1:20:35
  you that way? No, you didn't.
• 1:20:36
  OK. But honestly, I don't mind it.
• 1:20:40
  You know, like people ask me what I do and tell them I'm a RB
• 1:20:44
  singer, but they, you know, they're like, wait, what?
• 1:20:49
  Yeah. The only downfall with that is
• 1:20:50
  they expect me to sound like certain people.
• 1:20:52
  They, you know, they hear how deep my voice is.
• 1:20:55
  Then they expect me to sound like Gibby on what I don't sound
• 1:20:58
  like, give you on. You're like, that's not fucking
• 1:21:00
  you. Yes, it is.
• 1:21:02
  Sing. Absolutely fucking not.
• 1:21:06
  But no, it's fine. Perfectly fine.
• 1:21:09
  Now I'm kind of getting into that, like, comfortability of
• 1:21:13
  being, you know, called an RB singer.
• 1:21:15
  But it's in a weird sense, it's kind of like me finding that
• 1:21:20
  lane. I'm still paving that lane.
• 1:21:22
  You know what I mean? To where?
• 1:21:25
  I'm trying not to sound like certain people because.
• 1:21:28
  You're still finding your voice. Still I have not found my voice
• 1:21:31
  yet. There's no way.
• 1:21:32
  My voice is just deep and I sing that high.
• 1:21:35
  No way. And fuck, so still trying to
• 1:21:38
  find my voice. But when I do, it's gonna get
• 1:21:41
  dark very fast. Very chocolatey, very
• 1:21:45
  chocolatey. What a beautiful chocolate man.
• 1:21:48
  I'm sorry, I had. To They don't call me chocolate
• 1:21:50
  Tarzan for nothing. They literally call me
• 1:21:55
  chocolatey. You were?
• 1:21:55
  Thinking it, but you said it. Triple T ka.
• 1:22:01
  Time. To totally kick ass.
• 1:22:05
  I love that movie. We gotta watch it.
• 1:22:08
  You were talking about a couple of things.
• 1:22:10
  Like, almost even. Just like living in the moment.
• 1:22:12
  Right. And a lot of times like living
• 1:22:14
  in the moment can be really just like finding ways to find joy
• 1:22:18
  and fulfillment in that moment in time.
• 1:22:21
  So how do you personally practice living in the present?
• 1:22:25
  And how does that influence your creative process?
• 1:22:28
  Stay in the fuck off my phone. Not everything is for Instagram,
• 1:22:33
  You know what I mean? I feel like too many people get
• 1:22:36
  caught trying to show that they're doing something.
• 1:22:41
  Like somebody told me that my last job, your 20s, is worried
• 1:22:49
  about what everybody thinks. Your 40s is starting out to
• 1:22:55
  care. When you reach 60, you realize
• 1:22:58
  nobody was really even fucking paying attention to you.
• 1:23:02
  So we spend all this time worrying about what everybody
• 1:23:07
  else is thinking or portraying this image and we're not getting
• 1:23:10
  paid for it. If you get paid for it, fuck it,
• 1:23:12
  Go ahead and do what you do. But majority of these people are
• 1:23:15
  not getting fucking paid for it. I see living in a moment to me
• 1:23:19
  is like enjoying and embracing everything.
• 1:23:22
  It's okay to take pictures, don't get me wrong, and videos
• 1:23:24
  for yourself, quite frankly, It's your life.
• 1:23:28
  You could do whatever you want, but when it comes to a fact, a
• 1:23:31
  point to where you're just trying to make it seem like
• 1:23:33
  you're doing something when you're really not, like, Drake
• 1:23:35
  said. You've taken pictures from
• 1:23:38
  months ago and posted them as if you're still there.
• 1:23:41
  I just saw you last night and you consistently posted to make
• 1:23:45
  it seem like you're. Somewhere you're not.
• 1:23:48
  That's not living in the moment, you're you're you're living in
• 1:23:51
  the moment of what people think you were doing.
• 1:23:54
  Living in a moment is about embracing your surroundings,
• 1:23:57
  sitting there and and grounding yourself, understanding that it
• 1:24:01
  could be worse, you know, So being in a moment is really.
• 1:24:06
  Really. Something essential to me, like
• 1:24:08
  if I'm around people and the only thing they're on their
• 1:24:10
  phone, I would literally get pissed off.
• 1:24:13
  I'd be like, yo the fuck off your phone, bro.
• 1:24:16
  Like what are you doing? Oh man, you go.
• 1:24:19
  Just no, you won't fucking Sandra to see this shit to make.
• 1:24:24
  It seem like you got something going on that you really don't,
• 1:24:27
  you know? But it definitely heavily
• 1:24:30
  influenced my music because it let me know how to, if I'm
• 1:24:33
  feeling a certain way, to just let it go.
• 1:24:35
  You know what I mean? We spend too much time grieving
• 1:24:38
  over certain things, and everybody has their own time of
• 1:24:41
  grieve. But we sometimes it gets
• 1:24:44
  extended a little bit too long, you know what I mean?
• 1:24:48
  And that's just I I used to do that and I let it built up and
• 1:24:52
  that's what landed me in a mental hospital because I never
• 1:24:56
  let anything go. And finally caught up to me and
• 1:24:59
  it got triggered by somebody saying something I don't even
• 1:25:01
  know what they said, can't even remember.
• 1:25:04
  And it sent me into a spiral. So that lets me like whenever I
• 1:25:09
  go through a breakup or something like that or stop
• 1:25:12
  talking to somebody or somebody says something kind of just rubs
• 1:25:14
  me the wrong way. Y'all can call it petty if you
• 1:25:17
  want to, but it makes great fucking music because it's very
• 1:25:20
  relatable because when you think about it, like a lot of the
• 1:25:24
  they're not released yet. So a lot of people have not
• 1:25:28
  heard the rawness like very very, very, very raw songs that
• 1:25:34
  I that I've written based off some experiences that I've had.
• 1:25:40
  But they will get released one day when I'm able to you know,
• 1:25:44
  when I'm able to actually sit down and tap back into that
• 1:25:47
  emotion. But it's I think it's very
• 1:25:49
  essential to live in the moment because you don't have too many
• 1:25:52
  moments. If you really think about it,
• 1:25:55
  2910 years ago was my ten year anniversary of high school Fuck.
• 1:26:05
  And it seems like it was just yesterday.
• 1:26:08
  I was just here in December until now.
• 1:26:11
  My dad is not the same person he was in December.
• 1:26:15
  Time is of the essence. And when you're not living in a
• 1:26:18
  moment to kind of have those memories and you're just worried
• 1:26:21
  about everything else, I mean, why even be there?
• 1:26:25
  In my opinion, that's just like going to Paris and having your
• 1:26:28
  phone out the whole time. Taking, you know, videos on
• 1:26:32
  FaceTime or live at the Eiffel Tower, bro, you're not even
• 1:26:36
  enjoying it. You're sitting in front of the
• 1:26:37
  fucking Eiffel Tower. Not everybody gets to go there
• 1:26:40
  and you're you're wasting this on an IG Live video to show
• 1:26:44
  people you got money to go to fucking Paris.
• 1:26:46
  Nobody cares, bro. Enjoy this shit.
• 1:26:48
  Just take the picture and move. On take the picture, move on and
• 1:26:50
  go up. Go look at this.
• 1:26:52
  You're going to laugh because I'm taking some right now, but.
• 1:26:54
  We need. Some we need some from this
• 1:26:56
  angle. Keep going though.
• 1:26:59
  But yeah. Yeah, I was at the the festival
• 1:27:02
  over the weekend you know main stage and you know on all the
• 1:27:05
  yeah I do dance music and stuff. The all the Ravy stuff and you
• 1:27:09
  know all the on the big drops and you know everybody's phone
• 1:27:11
  goes up and putting it on their Snapchat and stuff.
• 1:27:15
  Like I I took a few videos, but I didn't post e-mail because I
• 1:27:18
  was like, I want those just for me.
• 1:27:19
  Yeah, if I go to anything like that, because my buddies are
• 1:27:22
  really good DJ in in Tampa, the first thing I do when I get
• 1:27:25
  there is I take a video of him. And tag him to let people know
• 1:27:31
  that he DJs and after that my phone's fucking up, my phone's
• 1:27:35
  up, One video of him and I'm enjoying and just watching them.
• 1:27:37
  You. Know what I mean?
• 1:27:38
  That's that's how you do support right there.
• 1:27:41
  I always. I mean, he played my music in
• 1:27:42
  Greece at a wedding I had like an and I'm in debt to him.
• 1:27:47
  I gotta do this now. Heck yeah.
• 1:27:49
  Yeah, yeah, Our Mia. Emily, she she got a few
• 1:27:54
  pictures and videos of me and I was like, oh cool, thank you so
• 1:27:57
  much dude. It means a lot man, when when
• 1:27:59
  you have friends to come and actually do that, cuz you're
• 1:28:01
  like man, fuck, they actually came to support me, man.
• 1:28:04
  And then when I go post them or whatever, I tag them in it too.
• 1:28:06
  Like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you credit if you're gonna
• 1:28:09
  do that for me. Yeah, cuz takes a lot to get
• 1:28:12
  somebody to do that shit, you know?
• 1:28:13
  Yeah cuz otherwise, you know, everybody could just be fucked
• 1:28:16
  up partying and just here doing my thing. 90% of them are fucked
• 1:28:20
  up partying. Yep, and don't even remember
• 1:28:22
  taking the videos so. It's a beautiful thing, the
• 1:28:25
  professional photographer probably not going to get over
• 1:28:28
  to me. Yeah, So thank you.
• 1:28:33
  Thank you for the pictures and all the support guys.
• 1:28:36
  I honestly think they, the photographers need to make it
• 1:28:39
  like in Tampa. They actually make it a thing to
• 1:28:41
  where they make sure the DJ's actually get pictures of them
• 1:28:44
  doing their work. Oh, nice.
• 1:28:46
  Yeah. See a place called WTR?
• 1:28:49
  It's called Water and it's a pull party every single weekend
• 1:28:53
  and every single DJ that comes from Medusa to Carnage to, you
• 1:28:58
  know, the guy who wears the pickle thing on his head.
• 1:29:01
  I don't know. Yeah, Pickle.
• 1:29:02
  Yeah, Pickle. Fucking.
• 1:29:04
  Then where's the pickle thing on the thing?
• 1:29:06
  Pickle. Yeah.
• 1:29:08
  Absolutely. I can tell you how I am, but
• 1:29:10
  they go there and they make sure they give.
• 1:29:12
  They get. They have two or three
• 1:29:13
  photographers up there getting photos of them, getting videos
• 1:29:15
  of them and then they go around to the crowd and start taking
• 1:29:18
  pictures of videos, but they make sure.
• 1:29:20
  I feel like that needs to come with it, like when it comes to a
• 1:29:23
  DJ or somebody. Gay.
• 1:29:25
  I'll do it. Fucking take photos of me
• 1:29:27
  though. And at work, you know, Yeah,
• 1:29:32
  yeah. So what are your plans for the
• 1:29:34
  future, if any, both personal and professionally, to actually
• 1:29:41
  practice my craft? Cuz I don't practice at all.
• 1:29:44
  It's been like fucking a week since I've actually sang.
• 1:29:49
  I I read something like a week or two ago that said us artists
• 1:29:54
  are inherently lazy. Yeah, we.
• 1:29:56
  Very. Very dude.
• 1:29:58
  Like the whole three years. Actually, the moment I've It was
• 1:30:03
  2011 when I figured out I can hold a note from 2011 all the
• 1:30:07
  way until now. I don't think I've ever
• 1:30:10
  practiced over an hour, and I've maybe only practiced like an
• 1:30:14
  hour. Maybe I can count on one hand
• 1:30:18
  and that's fucking 10 years, 12 years.
• 1:30:21
  Yeah, yeah, That's fucking crazy.
• 1:30:23
  And like. When you were touching on
• 1:30:25
  earlier like. If I practiced, I'd be ungodly
• 1:30:32
  good. Like, you know what I mean?
• 1:30:33
  Like it's just, I know this. That's why I'm so hard on myself
• 1:30:36
  and the fact that I don't kind of.
• 1:30:39
  I mean, I'm just getting in my own way.
• 1:30:41
  Like I just like, I don't know why I don't like it's just it's
• 1:30:45
  fucking stupid. So my my plan for the future is
• 1:30:49
  to actually kind of hone in on my craft and learn an instrument
• 1:30:53
  too, is what I really want to do, because I want to learn how
• 1:30:56
  to play guitar so I can just walk around and you know, kind
• 1:31:00
  of sing and stuff like that. But that's what I really,
• 1:31:03
  really, that's going to be. My main objective is to do that
• 1:31:06
  and to work on my song process because as of lately have not
• 1:31:13
  been able to write anything. No inspiration.
• 1:31:17
  Somebody break my heart, please. That's what I was.
• 1:31:18
  Gonna say you gotta. Get your heart broken again or
• 1:31:20
  something. Or something.
• 1:31:22
  Fuck. Do you ever?
• 1:31:23
  So no instruments like as a kid either.
• 1:31:25
  Like just drums. Just drums.
• 1:31:27
  Haven't played drums in like 17 years.
• 1:31:29
  Exactly 17 years. How?
• 1:31:31
  How? Old were you when you play drums
• 1:31:34
  3rd through 5th grade or something like third to like 6th
• 1:31:37
  grade? Yeah, some ways like that.
• 1:31:39
  But yeah, man, like it just, it's starting.
• 1:31:41
  Honestly it's starting to get fucking redundant because I was
• 1:31:45
  texting one of my friends the other day and I was telling her
• 1:31:46
  I was like man, I don't know what the fuck, what the fuck to
• 1:31:48
  write about. I don't want do I need to write
• 1:31:50
  about a heartbreak Do it like it got to the point to where I was
• 1:31:53
  listening to a song or like a beat.
• 1:31:56
  I was like, damn, I can go two ways with this.
• 1:31:58
  I can either do like a like a heartbroken like you're a liar
• 1:32:02
  type song or I can do a no holds bar for Rated R like type shit.
• 1:32:10
  And both of them literally had. The same fucking beginning line.
• 1:32:15
  It's just everything after that switched and it's like it goes
• 1:32:18
  into a progressive like, OK, you lied to me.
• 1:32:21
  And then the other one goes to OK, like, I'll just say some of
• 1:32:26
  the lyrics right now. I was like, it was like, you got
• 1:32:29
  me running. Red lights, red lights.
• 1:32:32
  I need to stop for a second. The other one was like, turn on
• 1:32:35
  the red lights, red lights, something, something.
• 1:32:37
  It was something sexual. So it was like, you see, like
• 1:32:40
  it's. It's both the same thing and I
• 1:32:42
  like I literally stopped at the same point on both songs.
• 1:32:45
  I. Got maybe 4 bars and just
• 1:32:47
  stopped. I'm like, I don't know where I
• 1:32:48
  want to go with this song. Yeah, because I feel like I have
• 1:32:51
  a lot of songs about fucking sex and I feel like I have a lot of
• 1:32:53
  songs about fucking shit like this.
• 1:32:55
  I said it's starting to feel fucking redundant, but then I go
• 1:32:58
  and listen to my favorite artist and it's literally the same.
• 1:33:01
  Fucking song. Yeah, so I'm like, man, I just
• 1:33:05
  get to a point where I'm like, I feel like people love hearing.
• 1:33:11
  The heartbreak songs. And they only want famous people
• 1:33:15
  to talk in nasty senses on songs like you sit here and watch
• 1:33:19
  Women on TikTok all day quoting the baby talking about fucking
• 1:33:23
  putting fingers down their throats and shit like that.
• 1:33:25
  But the moment I do it, it's like, I think I'd like you
• 1:33:31
  better when you talk about love, OK?
• 1:33:36
  Trey Songz, do it. You lose your fucking mind.
• 1:33:39
  So my main focus is to try to get better when it comes to
• 1:33:42
  writing and getting out of my own head and really honing on my
• 1:33:46
  craft and taking the opportunities that are given
• 1:33:49
  because they're not like. This dude's not going to keep
• 1:33:51
  you inviting me to fucking LA At some point he's going to be
• 1:33:54
  like, OK, you're bullshitting. And he's he's been a vocal coach
• 1:33:58
  for some of the top names in the industry.
• 1:34:02
  At some point you just gotta like at some point sell
• 1:34:05
  everything and just go except for my body.
• 1:34:09
  Yeah, I mean, I was talking about like a stove and a
• 1:34:12
  microwave, but. OK, she said.
• 1:34:14
  Sell everything, ma'am. I was talking about a stove.
• 1:34:19
  Yeah, sure, she was. I.
• 1:34:21
  Was. Damn, she had too much tequila
• 1:34:23
  and berries. Right.
• 1:34:26
  No but one. Second one second.
• 1:34:28
  I don't want to lose this because I just thought of it.
• 1:34:30
  Yeah, yeah, our song, our boat song.
• 1:34:33
  I just. The boats and houses came up
• 1:34:34
  with a better title. It's gonna be Baddies on a Trip,
• 1:34:38
  which spells boat. Baddies.
• 1:34:41
  I like that trip. Damn, I liked it.
• 1:34:44
  I felt like. It was nice play on board.
• 1:34:45
  Don't. Forget it.
• 1:34:46
  I gotta say it. The acronym was amazing.
• 1:34:48
  The acronym was amazing. It's gonna say B dot O dot A dot
• 1:34:51
  T yes and then under. Gonna say the words, Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:34:55
  Then we're gonna have an empty ass boat with no woman.
• 1:34:59
  I invite none of that. Would be funny.
• 1:35:01
  Holy shit. You know what?
• 1:35:03
  That would probably go viral. We were just sitting there
• 1:35:05
  talking about all these women and there's like, no.
• 1:35:08
  And we're just looking around and here, like, where the Where
• 1:35:10
  the fuck are these women at? Yeah, yeah, we didn't invite
• 1:35:12
  them there. Welcome.
• 1:35:13
  Because we're the baddies. Yeah, we're taking our self on
• 1:35:17
  the trip. Yes, just grow your hair out so
• 1:35:19
  we can hair flip, man. Fuck.
• 1:35:22
  You should. You should.
• 1:35:23
  I can't. I found the secret to make it.
• 1:35:27
  Yeah, to make that happen. If Tory Lanez.
• 1:35:29
  Did it? You can't.
• 1:35:33
  I I was just gonna ask. You were talking about, you
• 1:35:36
  know, opportunity doesn't come knocking twice so far.
• 1:35:40
  It's come knocking more than twice for you.
• 1:35:44
  But you also have a lot of important things that you're
• 1:35:46
  juggling right now. You know you've shared with me
• 1:35:49
  why you're back and who you're back for.
• 1:35:53
  So how do you balance what's important in your life and how
• 1:35:57
  do you prioritize that? It's hard.
• 1:35:59
  It's very hard because I'm a pleaser in multiple ways.
• 1:36:04
  So when it comes to like, you know, I I got to come to
• 1:36:10
  realization that there are going to be some people who get upset.
• 1:36:13
  You know what I mean? That I'm not going to be able
• 1:36:15
  to, you know, please. In that sense, it's extremely
• 1:36:20
  hard for me because I want to be like fucking Superman to
• 1:36:24
  everybody, you know what I mean? So it's I got to take time to
• 1:36:28
  prioritize certain things, and I got to kind of slow down my
• 1:36:34
  temper towards certain things. Because it's not that I'm
• 1:36:37
  getting pissed off at them. I'm getting upset at the
• 1:36:40
  situation. Like I'll get snippy with my
• 1:36:43
  dad. He doesn't know what's going on.
• 1:36:45
  But it's so fucking frustrating to me that we let it get this
• 1:36:50
  fucking far and nobody's done anything to try to either slow
• 1:36:54
  it or get him some fucking help. Nobody, Nobody in the family.
• 1:36:59
  So that's frustrating. Then I got a brother, one of my
• 1:37:02
  half brothers, that's pretty much on the spectrum.
• 1:37:05
  He probably shouldn't even graduate, graduated high school.
• 1:37:08
  Who doesn't understand this shit?
• 1:37:10
  So you got my dad saying things He doesn't mean he thinks he's
• 1:37:13
  thrill on it. So it's like, and then he asked
• 1:37:16
  all these questions to me and I'm getting fucking frustrated
• 1:37:19
  because I'm like, what the fuck? You know what I mean?
• 1:37:21
  So it's kind of this is, it's really hard to juggle, man.
• 1:37:28
  Made him cry the other day and didn't fucking mean to.
• 1:37:30
  And I was like, fuck, maybe I was being too hard on, but it's
• 1:37:32
  like just bringing them to the realization they're like, dude,
• 1:37:35
  that's not dad that you know it's not.
• 1:37:38
  And unfortunately, at this rate, he might not have much longer.
• 1:37:45
  As in, hopefully we get more than five years out of, out out
• 1:37:49
  of the whole situation. But when he's gone, you're all
• 1:37:53
  he knows. I mean, he's all, you know.
• 1:37:56
  So what are you going to do after that, dude?
• 1:37:59
  Like, it's about time you start getting a grip on your life,
• 1:38:02
  man, and start understanding that you can do this on your
• 1:38:04
  own. You've done it for 39 years.
• 1:38:07
  You can, you can live on your own, do do what you want to do,
• 1:38:10
  live your life. You have yet to live your life.
• 1:38:12
  You're 39 years old. So that broke my heart.
• 1:38:18
  So it's like, fuck, it's getting to the point where it's hard to
• 1:38:23
  look at certain people because I'm just dealing with so much
• 1:38:27
  shit, you know, This last seven months has probably been the
• 1:38:34
  most trying situation. Lost my job same day.
• 1:38:40
  Figured out I was losing my grandma.
• 1:38:42
  Same day, figured out I was losing my girlfriend.
• 1:38:45
  So it was it was like all that shit.
• 1:38:47
  And then building up and then didn't make it.
• 1:38:50
  See my grandma. She passed away as on the as I
• 1:38:52
  was on the way to the airport and then broke it was a
• 1:38:56
  girlfriend and didn't have the job anymore.
• 1:38:58
  It's like fucking Christ got an argument all it's just a lot.
• 1:39:01
  It's like this year has been fucking very very very trying
• 1:39:06
  and trying to juggle all of it. I only got 2 hands.
• 1:39:09
  I just got to figure out which ones I want to throw in the air
• 1:39:11
  and which ones to catch. And if I drop one, which one
• 1:39:14
  wouldn't matter as much because it's going to?
• 1:39:17
  It's bound to happen. I feel like you need a shot.
• 1:39:21
  Yeah, I need. I need something more.
• 1:39:23
  Please, for the love of God. But no.
• 1:39:25
  First I do want to say wow, thank you for being so
• 1:39:30
  vulnerable. Honestly, thank you for sharing
• 1:39:34
  that with us. I think it goes back to
• 1:39:38
  everything you've been saying so far throughout the podcast is
• 1:39:41
  like men have feelings too, and really, fully embracing that.
• 1:39:47
  It's so hard for so many men to embrace that and for anyone to
• 1:39:52
  really give them the space and the opportunity to feel like
• 1:39:57
  they can and that they're valid and that they can say through
• 1:39:59
  that, say all that. So thank you for coming on and
• 1:40:02
  sharing that because you having that voice and you sharing that
• 1:40:06
  continues to normalize it. Yeah, And I tell all men, if you
• 1:40:10
  if you have something you want to talk about, DM's are open.
• 1:40:16
  You don't know how many men have reached out to me and talk, try
• 1:40:19
  to, you know, just express themselves and and anything of
• 1:40:24
  that. And also it don't matter if
• 1:40:27
  you're gay, straight, bisexual, nonbinary, transgender, anything
• 1:40:33
  of that nature. If you want to have a
• 1:40:34
  conversation, I'm open to it, to talk about that because I take
• 1:40:37
  mental health very seriously and everybody needs somebody to talk
• 1:40:44
  to. And I know that's probably
• 1:40:46
  shooting myself in the foot because because I'm empathic and
• 1:40:49
  I pretty much take on everything that I hear and feel.
• 1:40:52
  So I mean, in my opinion, it's worth it.
• 1:40:56
  I just got to learn how to juggle that, you know, as we
• 1:40:58
  talked earlier. Well, we're gonna switch to
• 1:41:01
  something a little lighter. Let's do it.
• 1:41:04
  And also thank you again for that because damn, now y'all
• 1:41:09
  know we got a certified other therapists over here.
• 1:41:12
  No, this is definitely the podcast where we love to talk
• 1:41:14
  about mental health. So again, thank you.
• 1:41:17
  Seriously, thank you for being so vulnerable with us.
• 1:41:19
  Something that we're we're towards the end of the podcast.
• 1:41:22
  We like to do this thing called Lightning Round and we didn't
• 1:41:25
  even cheers this yet. Cheers Yes.
• 1:41:29
  During the lightning round we're just going to ask you a bunch of
• 1:41:34
  sorry took a shot. Shit, damn.
• 1:41:37
  OK. Lights went.
• 1:41:39
  Off that one hit different too. OK, during the lightning ground,
• 1:41:43
  we're going to ask you a bunch of random questions, Say what's
• 1:41:46
  quick top of your mind? And we'll ask why and then we'll
• 1:41:49
  move on. All right.
• 1:41:51
  So if you could have any super power, what would it be and why?
• 1:41:58
  Extreme knowledge. Why?
• 1:42:02
  Because I would know everything. I would know the trace to
• 1:42:05
  everything, any and everything. I would know how to cure things.
• 1:42:09
  I would know how to make an abundance of money.
• 1:42:10
  I would know how to change certain things in the world,
• 1:42:14
  like the starvation in Africa, the wars that are going on in
• 1:42:18
  Germany, a lot of shit oil problems, minerals that can
• 1:42:22
  supplement oil, things like that, nature.
• 1:42:25
  There's a lot of things behind, a lot of knowledge that is known
• 1:42:30
  but isn't shared. Gotcha fair.
• 1:42:33
  Yep. Okay.
• 1:42:35
  Well, OK, this, this, this. Go to it.
• 1:42:37
  What is your? I'm gonna skip that question
• 1:42:39
  because. Well it's cuz you said you don't
• 1:42:41
  like to perform live that much. OK, what is your favorite song
• 1:42:44
  to perform live or would want to?
• 1:42:48
  Sex room. Sex Room.
• 1:42:49
  OK, Why? Because I get to tap into my I
• 1:42:53
  used to be an ex dancer, like a male entertainer.
• 1:42:56
  Dang, look at you. Your dit sell your body.
• 1:43:00
  I didn't it. Was for cancer.
• 1:43:01
  It was for cancer. It was for cancer.
• 1:43:03
  Here in Wichita, seriously, dance is for cancer.
• 1:43:05
  So. Wait, did you do the drag queen
• 1:43:08
  one? No, hell, okay.
• 1:43:09
  But we've. Had a couple of friends who've
• 1:43:10
  done that. But no, seriously, it's called
• 1:43:12
  Dancer for cancer, and we raised money for leukemia, lymphoma
• 1:43:15
  societies and stuff like that and Cancer Research.
• 1:43:18
  So yes, I did take off my. Chores.
• 1:43:21
  Not drawers, but my tight ass pants.
• 1:43:25
  Did you have the ones that like rip off?
• 1:43:26
  Yeah, my friend actually made. We cut my jeans and we made some
• 1:43:30
  one of my really good friends and she was who.
• 1:43:33
  I was that then? No, that was in Tampa.
• 1:43:36
  Okay. That was at WTR, the place I was
• 1:43:39
  talking to you, to DJ's You can actually.
• 1:43:41
  I think I posted a video on here.
• 1:43:43
  Go if you can go back and see. We're on Columbus's Instagram
• 1:43:48
  right now. Yeah, you guys should go.
• 1:43:51
  Through some of these pictures. I had one called.
• 1:43:54
  The chocolate Tarzan. Right here, Right there, Lord.
• 1:43:59
  That was my live performance of it.
• 1:44:02
  Oh, this is when you you did the thing.
• 1:44:05
  With the body and the stuff. Yes.
• 1:44:11
  I love this song because it just allows me to do whatever the
• 1:44:14
  fuck I want to do. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:44:16
  Like, honestly bro, this is a spare of the moment type thing.
• 1:44:19
  Yeah, and that room was a bunch of fucking rappers, yeah.
• 1:44:22
  And I have a thing called the Fuck It button.
• 1:44:25
  And I hit the Fuck It button. Yeah.
• 1:44:27
  And I decided I was like, this song is about one thing and one
• 1:44:29
  thing only. Sex.
• 1:44:31
  Uhhuh. So I need to sell that as best
• 1:44:33
  as I can. Yeah.
• 1:44:34
  Yeah. And I've been listening to them
• 1:44:35
  before everybody. Main opportunity right now for
• 1:44:39
  you to be it was it was definitely interesting.
• 1:44:42
  I that's one thing I do I can do is captivate a fucking crowd and
• 1:44:46
  get them into it. And especially like if it's a
• 1:44:48
  crowd of women. Yeah, because I know exactly
• 1:44:50
  what they look at me and see me as.
• 1:44:51
  But when it comes like. When I'm in that zone right
• 1:44:54
  there, that is a different. That zone right there, That one,
• 1:44:57
  that's. That was a different zone when I
• 1:45:01
  saw, When I saw that back, I played it like 50 times.
• 1:45:09
  I was like, whoa, wait a minute. And at that point, when I did
• 1:45:14
  this video, it's been like fucking five years since I've
• 1:45:16
  danced, Like, danced. Yeah, that that mode, right?
• 1:45:20
  Yeah, I was like, Oh my God, Lord have mercy on my soul and
• 1:45:24
  hers, but. You're going to like, burn when
• 1:45:27
  you go into a church. Yeah.
• 1:45:29
  Hey, the devil's going to send me back to heaven.
• 1:45:31
  That's what all I need to say isn't like, this dude asks too
• 1:45:33
  many fucking questions. Hey, man, why is it so hot you
• 1:45:36
  ain't got A/C down here? You ever get your toes done?
• 1:45:39
  But but yeah, yeah, basically that that song is by far, I feel
• 1:45:45
  like. My most authentic, like 90s
• 1:45:48
  style vintage R&B song. But it also allows me to be,
• 1:45:57
  that's to be straight up. I'm a very sexual fucking
• 1:45:59
  person, so it allows me to be 100% me.
• 1:46:03
  And when I I mean the song is honestly, in my opinion, the
• 1:46:06
  song is really, really, really fucking good.
• 1:46:10
  But when you add to like, I'm not on a Chris Brown level,
• 1:46:13
  fucking flipping the shit on stage, but I'm.
• 1:46:16
  They am. They're better than majority of
• 1:46:17
  these other R&B artists to fucking dance and do all that
• 1:46:19
  other shit. And I definitely have more
• 1:46:20
  fucking sexual pills, so why not fucking use it?
• 1:46:23
  Why not showcase that? You know what I mean?
• 1:46:25
  I mean, that's what people are going to view me as anyway when
• 1:46:27
  it comes to my music. Columbus Berry the artist is a
• 1:46:31
  completely different guy than Columbus Berry that walks around
• 1:46:34
  the street. Literally the same guy, but
• 1:46:36
  different, if that makes any sense.
• 1:46:38
  I don't walk around here just showcasing like my sexuality as
• 1:46:43
  as like a. As a man, when I'm walking
• 1:46:46
  around here on a daily basis, I wear the loud shit.
• 1:46:48
  But like, I'm not just sitting out here.
• 1:46:50
  Now, if I go into a atmosphere like that, it's sex, sex, love,
• 1:46:56
  love, sex. More sex, love, you know what I
• 1:46:59
  mean? But when it's Columbus Berry,
• 1:47:01
  it's like I'm a gentle guy. Like you know what I mean?
• 1:47:03
  Soft spoke. I mean soft spoken with a deep
• 1:47:05
  voice, but you know, just very soft spoken and kind of like
• 1:47:09
  chill, relax, loving. But when it comes to the RB,
• 1:47:12
  sides are completely different. Guy, but the same guy, if that
• 1:47:15
  makes any sense. You just see another Ave. of me.
• 1:47:19
  Yeah, yeah. Makes perfect sense.
• 1:47:21
  So you've told us a lot of pet peeves too.
• 1:47:25
  What is your most unpopular opinion?
• 1:47:28
  Like? If you there's this thing
• 1:47:30
  example, we had Josue last and he was like, I don't like bacon
• 1:47:35
  on my hamburger. He's crazy.
• 1:47:37
  Yeah, definitely. Serial killer.
• 1:47:40
  So what is your unpopular opinion?
• 1:47:46
  Unpopular opinion? Damn.
• 1:47:48
  That's gonna be a tough one. I guess I mean it.
• 1:47:52
  You're not taking someone on the first day, not taking them to
• 1:47:56
  dinner. Unpopular opinion.
• 1:48:01
  If girls don't have to wear underwear, men don't either.
• 1:48:07
  Facts. Unpopular opinion Facts.
• 1:48:11
  No, right. OK, I'm not going to ask
• 1:48:14
  anymore. Any up and any up and coming
• 1:48:17
  projects we should be aware of? No projects.
• 1:48:20
  I'm solely focused on singles that way.
• 1:48:23
  It forces you guys to listen because I've I've noticed
• 1:48:26
  something real early, but a lot of artists don't understand as
• 1:48:28
  they try to sit here and put out albums and shit like that.
• 1:48:32
  For what? 90% of the time they're going to
• 1:48:35
  listen to the first three songs and the rest of the songs aren't
• 1:48:37
  going to get played. And I noticed that early.
• 1:48:39
  So I looked at my project and I saw my first project.
• 1:48:42
  A lot of the first two songs were getting played a lot the
• 1:48:45
  last two weren't, but they were the best songs on there.
• 1:48:48
  So I was like, it's either the way I structured it or it's, you
• 1:48:52
  know, I'm not going to lie, I go to Chris Brown's album and
• 1:48:55
  listen to the first four or five songs.
• 1:48:56
  When you got 40 fucking songs in there, you don't want to listen
• 1:48:59
  to all of them. You know what I mean?
• 1:49:00
  You got to give people time to consume the songs.
• 1:49:03
  So that's why I started dropping every single song independently.
• 1:49:09
  Because what people don't know is sex, room, sex, me, nice to
• 1:49:16
  meet you, and love and affection.
• 1:49:20
  We're all supposed to be in one part from one project.
• 1:49:22
  It was supposed to be 5050, volume 2.
• 1:49:25
  Yeah, but drop them as independent songs.
• 1:49:28
  Yeah, well, hey, you're getting more.
• 1:49:31
  You're getting more lessons that way.
• 1:49:32
  Yeah, it definitely are. It's forcing people to listen,
• 1:49:37
  dance and a few other songs are going to be.
• 1:49:41
  That on a project we're going to be on a project called Back to
• 1:49:44
  the Basics was pretty much going to be like a nineties, 80s style
• 1:49:48
  like you know, like Michael Jackson feel like I have all the
• 1:49:52
  other songs already written. One of them was prerecorded.
• 1:49:55
  Oh, you got the red jacket in the picture?
• 1:49:57
  Yeah, I was thinking about earlier.
• 1:49:58
  Little, little, little subliminals there.
• 1:50:00
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, slow it down. Take me back.
• 1:50:06
  We're actually written the same fucking day.
• 1:50:09
  OK. Yeah, Take Me Back was recorded
• 1:50:13
  in my living room and sent to a dude in Barbados.
• 1:50:16
  It was his beat that he put on there and we produced it.
• 1:50:19
  It wouldn't let me upload it 90 seconds.
• 1:50:23
  I think it was like 90 or something seconds like that and
• 1:50:26
  I went back and resang the original version of it because
• 1:50:30
  he clipped everything and put it together to original.
• 1:50:33
  I went back, rerecorded it the original way with the clipped,
• 1:50:37
  yeah, and resang all of it. And dropped it again.
• 1:50:40
  Yeah, Making Love was supposed to be on there with Don't Hide
• 1:50:46
  in another song, another two songs.
• 1:50:48
  That was supposed to be another project called Love Struck.
• 1:50:53
  So I broke them all up. I have everything categorized
• 1:50:57
  and I broke them all up. I was like, you know what?
• 1:51:00
  They're going to consume these. They're going to have to listen
• 1:51:03
  to them because it's no point in me dropping the fucking project
• 1:51:06
  if I'm not known. Now when I get a following and
• 1:51:09
  I'm starting to be, you know, a well known artist, then I will
• 1:51:13
  drop the, you know the projects for like 4 or five songs.
• 1:51:16
  Not dropping the album. The album's going to be dropped
• 1:51:19
  if I get signed or something like that.
• 1:51:21
  That way they can base my what I can what they think I could do
• 1:51:25
  with my projected. Or whatever.
• 1:51:27
  The fuck. Based off of the album sales,
• 1:51:30
  because I haven't had an album yet.
• 1:51:31
  I've only had projects. You can't base an album, You
• 1:51:35
  don't have one. But if you have an album, like
• 1:51:37
  some of these artists are stupidly doing, and you get 1000
• 1:51:40
  plays on the album and then you get in front of Sony Records,
• 1:51:43
  you're like, bro, your album only streamed 1000 fucking
• 1:51:46
  STREAMS. Okay, our our $1,000,000 offer
• 1:51:50
  is now $25. I mean, that's all.
• 1:51:54
  That's all fucking Spotify paid you.
• 1:51:56
  Yeah, Why should we pay you $1,000,000 for something you're
• 1:51:58
  not even selling? You're not even getting in front
• 1:52:00
  of people. So we don't know if you're going
• 1:52:03
  to, you know, why do you think Russ drops single songs?
• 1:52:09
  Damn cheat codes. Cheat codes?
• 1:52:11
  He even says it. I'm copying what he said
• 1:52:13
  directly, Yeah. It's just I'm not being as
• 1:52:16
  consistent as him. He was dropping a song a fucking
• 1:52:18
  day. Damn.
• 1:52:19
  I don't have that much of A catalog, and it's a lot harder
• 1:52:22
  for me because I sing, you know what I mean?
• 1:52:24
  It's different. You can't keep dropping.
• 1:52:26
  If you drop a song a day, it's gonna start all intertwined.
• 1:52:29
  It's gonna be the same fucking song.
• 1:52:31
  I don't do that. I don't do that.
• 1:52:32
  Not gonna happen. Yeah, well those are the cheat
• 1:52:35
  codes here. So what's a favorite or what's a
• 1:52:38
  conspiracy theory that you believe in?
• 1:52:41
  Conspiracy theory? If you think we are alone here,
• 1:52:46
  you are out of your fucking mind.
• 1:52:47
  Yeah, that one's easy. Pick another.
• 1:52:52
  Everyone says aliens, not you gotta.
• 1:52:53
  No, she wasn't even gonna let me get to it.
• 1:52:58
  Oh, OK Are you gonna say ghosts? She just kind of no, she
• 1:52:57
  literally cut me off. I had more to.
• 1:53:00
  No, I wasn't gonna say. All right.
• 1:53:01
  No, next. No, no, seriously.
• 1:53:03
  No, seriously. We've only like the Earth is 70%
• 1:53:07
  water, 30% land we've only discovered.
• 1:53:09
  You believe in mermaids. Look, here's I believe in.
• 1:53:13
  Here's what I'm gonna say. That's my favorite.
• 1:53:14
  You can't say something doesn't exist just because you have not
• 1:53:17
  seen it. Yeah.
• 1:53:18
  What I have a firm belief in if we've only discovered 5% of the
• 1:53:23
  land and fucking less than that of the ocean, yeah, how are you
• 1:53:27
  going to sit here and say something doesn't exist?
• 1:53:29
  They say Bigfoots are not real, but people don't realize that
• 1:53:32
  50,000 years ago really isn't that long ago.
• 1:53:34
  And there was an ape called the Giganta Pitacus.
• 1:53:38
  Gigantopithesis. Gigantopithecus.
• 1:53:41
  Gigantopithecus. Yes, and it was.
• 1:53:44
  Yes, you need another shot, but it was a large ape that's still
• 1:53:48
  upright and it was about maybe 13 to 15 foot tall, yeah.
• 1:53:55
  And there could still be 50,000 years ago.
• 1:53:58
  Isn't that long ago? Because they found a prehistoric
• 1:54:00
  shark that swam in Asia seven years ago that they tried to
• 1:54:03
  remove from the ocean? It wasn't supposed to when they
• 1:54:05
  died. The only one they saw.
• 1:54:06
  It was supposed to be dead a million years ago, which tells
• 1:54:08
  you my main thought was that. Was the shock last year you just
• 1:54:11
  heard Paul. No, it wasn't.
• 1:54:13
  But my main theory is, and my conspiracy theory is if it wants
• 1:54:17
  to be seen, it will be seen. You can't find something that
• 1:54:21
  doesn't want to be seen. Either you find it and you see
• 1:54:24
  it and you don't live to tell about it, or you find it and you
• 1:54:27
  see it and you don't live to tell about it.
• 1:54:28
  There is no in between. Like I don't.
• 1:54:31
  First off, I'm not going to go looking for anything I don't
• 1:54:34
  want to look for. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:54:35
  Like big ass snakes. You can have that shit.
• 1:54:38
  I'm good. I believe you.
• 1:54:40
  I believe you. I know there's some big ass
• 1:54:42
  snakes out there because there's parts of the, you know, that we
• 1:54:46
  can't go to, for instance, the Floating forest.
• 1:54:50
  No, nobody's really even heard of that.
• 1:54:52
  I've done some deep research on YouTube and Google and shit like
• 1:54:56
  that at 3:00 in the morning, at 3:00 in the morning and
• 1:55:00
  basically what happened is it was a big ravine.
• 1:55:02
  It had 60 to 80 foot trees and. What happened over time is it
• 1:55:06
  kept raining. It's a rainforest, like the
• 1:55:09
  area. So basically that big bowl
• 1:55:12
  filled up with water. Over time, leaves fell, created
• 1:55:17
  Moss. Moss creates land.
• 1:55:20
  So now you have certain parts that are soft, like you can
• 1:55:24
  you'll fall through. But there are other parts that
• 1:55:26
  are actual, like solid ground that you can walk on.
• 1:55:29
  And they say it's one of the most dangerous places on Earth
• 1:55:31
  because you can think you're on solid ground one moment and just
• 1:55:34
  fall. Yeah.
• 1:55:36
  The next moment, maybe just just be gone, damn.
• 1:55:38
  Because it's like it's it's called the floating forest
• 1:55:41
  because it's literally in a forest that went underwater and
• 1:55:45
  you don't know what's landing, what's what's solid and what's
• 1:55:47
  not. And basically it's home to some
• 1:55:49
  of the biggest snakes in the world.
• 1:55:52
  And when they say that, it's because.
• 1:55:54
  They have no doubt and died. Yeah, they have no predators out
• 1:55:58
  there that the apex predator they have.
• 1:56:03
  No, they have unlimited with snakes, their environment is how
• 1:56:07
  they grow. So when you have nothing
• 1:56:09
  interfering with your environment, snakes keep growing
• 1:56:12
  to their death. So you have snakes to just keep
• 1:56:14
  growing? They found a 25 foot Anaconda
• 1:56:19
  and it wasn't the one they were looking for.
• 1:56:21
  Damn. So I was like, why the fuck are
• 1:56:25
  you out there in the first place?
• 1:56:27
  And there was a mosh pit. Like, first of all, that's some
• 1:56:30
  white people shit. Why are you?
• 1:56:31
  Out it is like, fuck that shit. I'm Tarzan, but I'm not going
• 1:56:34
  out there. But it was like a big, like, you
• 1:56:38
  know, the grass was laid down like this.
• 1:56:40
  Yeah, yeah. And it showed us something that
• 1:56:41
  just went through there, that fucking big around.
• 1:56:44
  Oh my God. And all you saw was the water
• 1:56:46
  moving and there's like, fuck, what was that?
• 1:56:48
  And I was like, cut this fucking camera off.
• 1:56:50
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Run.
• 1:56:51
  Run. Hell no.
• 1:56:53
  But dude all. Right.
• 1:56:54
  I'll let you have this one. Okay.
• 1:56:56
  I thought you were gonna say aliens, and we're not allowing
• 1:56:58
  people to say aliens. No, definitely not aliens.
• 1:57:00
  Because if you think about it, if the Galaxy is still, if we're
• 1:57:02
  one Galaxy inside the solar system, the solar system is
• 1:57:05
  continuous. Yeah.
• 1:57:06
  What makes you think that? There's another Columbus Barry.
• 1:57:10
  There's a Barry Columbus. No, I mean, Christopher was the
• 1:57:13
  closest one. That dude's a Dick head.
• 1:57:16
  But I will say this. I will say this.
• 1:57:22
  My conspiracy theorist #2 is ain't no way in hell.
• 1:57:27
  We saw other planets like Earth. Ain't no way in hell if.
• 1:57:32
  Jupiter is light years away and it takes us fucking how many
• 1:57:35
  years to get out there? How the fuck do you know there's
• 1:57:37
  another planet that's just like Earth that's even further away.
• 1:57:40
  No way, no way possible. You would have to send that out
• 1:57:44
  hundreds of years ago just for it to reach where you said it
• 1:57:47
  was. You're just going off of
• 1:57:48
  speculation now, but if the solar system is continuously
• 1:57:53
  growing and there are other planets out there, obviously
• 1:57:56
  it's obvious. They're just stately fucking
• 1:57:58
  obvious there is another planet like Earth.
• 1:58:02
  Obviously. Yeah, I mean, at this point, if
• 1:58:04
  we've figured out that Moss and all that stuff girls land, then
• 1:58:07
  at some point we know something. Obviously it's just there's
• 1:58:11
  another planet out there. I mean, if you have the sun that
• 1:58:13
  has moons, and you have the moon that has moons and you have
• 1:58:16
  other, it's just so much intangible shit.
• 1:58:20
  That we can't physically figure out.
• 1:58:22
  And I just refuse. If we can't even figure out
• 1:58:24
  what's on earth, how the fuck we going to figure out what's up
• 1:58:26
  there? Another conspiracy theories?
• 1:58:28
  Why? The fuck?
• 1:58:29
  That was just one. It's lightning.
• 1:58:30
  No, sorry, sorry. From my understanding, NASA used
• 1:58:35
  to actually discover the ocean and for some odd reason.
• 1:58:38
  Yes, I have heard of that. They went to space, which tells
• 1:58:40
  me they saw something down there that they didn't want to fucking
• 1:58:43
  be around. So they're trying to get the
• 1:58:44
  fuck out of here and. That's why.
• 1:58:46
  That's why my conspiracy conspiracy theory is mermaids.
• 1:58:49
  Because. We know more about space than we
• 1:58:52
  do our ocean. Yeah, and we're 70% water.
• 1:58:55
  That shit's crazy. That's crazy.
• 1:58:57
  I don't believe that. I don't believe any.
• 1:58:58
  That's like when they went down there and tried to fucking when
• 1:59:01
  they saw a giant squid for the first time.
• 1:59:03
  Yeah, fucking thing was 40 foot big.
• 1:59:06
  Dude, I think that's where the real aliens are.
• 1:59:08
  I think octopus or aliens, Yeah, I don't get fucked when nobody.
• 1:59:11
  Says jellyfish. Jellyfish, everything, I think
• 1:59:14
  dude. And ostriches.
• 1:59:15
  That's a weird ass. Animal.
• 1:59:17
  Giraffes if you say and just stare at these things flamingos
• 1:59:20
  like. Why yo?
• 1:59:21
  Why? How long does it take a giraffe
• 1:59:23
  to throw up? I don't know, but that's.
• 1:59:25
  Not I googled it 40 something seconds and it doesn't actually
• 1:59:29
  throw up. It just regurgitates the food
• 1:59:31
  and swallows it again. Fucking weird.
• 1:59:33
  That is weird. Like weird.
• 1:59:34
  Why are there animals like that? That's weird.
• 1:59:37
  OK, I've done that before. Stop.
• 1:59:40
  OK. Next question, Next question,
• 1:59:42
  What's your favorite singer of all time, Eric Bellinger?
• 1:59:45
  OK, if you could switch lives with anyone for a day, who would
• 1:59:49
  it be and why? Eric Bellinger.
• 1:59:52
  Why? Because he is.
• 1:59:53
  Anything he touches is magic. OK, Eric Bellinger Slash Chris
• 1:59:57
  Brown. Eric Bellinger writes songs for
• 1:59:59
  Chris Brown. So.
• 2:00:00
  OK, OK, what's the most adventurous thing you've ever
• 2:00:04
  done? PG13 I was.
• 2:00:10
  Literally about to go to the Richter Scale PG13.
• 2:00:15
  Wild and adventurous? No.
• 2:00:18
  All I said was most adventurous. Most adventurous.
• 2:00:20
  You had it wild. Stop selling your body.
• 2:00:23
  Our podcast is not that type of podcast.
• 2:00:28
  I went to Richmond, VA, and I climbed on a random abandoned
• 2:00:31
  building. Yeah.
• 2:00:33
  There naked. O Shay, Ouch.
• 2:00:37
  No, it wasn't. It wasn't bad.
• 2:00:38
  I got on top of the building, then got naked.
• 2:00:39
  It was raining, OK, but it was an abandoned building that's
• 2:00:42
  been abandoned for like it was in the middle of the fucking.
• 2:00:44
  I don't know. It's fucking creepy.
• 2:00:45
  You have big ass. It looks like it was a dam at
• 2:00:49
  some point because it had probably big ass circles in the
• 2:00:53
  middle of the ground like this. It was about the size of this
• 2:00:55
  room and there was levers to where you can pull them and open
• 2:00:58
  it. So it had to be a dam to where
• 2:01:00
  it was circulating water at some point, but it was abandoned and
• 2:01:04
  it was all rusty. It was fucking crazy looking at
• 2:01:06
  that stuff. Like if somebody were to go out
• 2:01:08
  there with some cameras, somebody probably already did.
• 2:01:10
  But it would, it would take and it had big ass walls that you
• 2:01:13
  can walk on then you can get to it.
• 2:01:14
  So it was definitely a dam, but it was, it was fucking crazy to
• 2:01:17
  see a inactive dam and just to think like if you fall like down
• 2:01:21
  there was like 60 or 70 foot. You cannot get out.
• 2:01:23
  Oh shit. That'd be not the little hole.
• 2:01:26
  It was six of those holes inside that whole building.
• 2:01:28
  So it was big, but if you fall down into there.
• 2:01:31
  Yeah. Lord knows there's probably no
• 2:01:33
  way you can get out. Yeah, and nobody would hear you.
• 2:01:36
  Just random random times where people come out there and do
• 2:01:39
  shit. Yeah, so like I was out there
• 2:01:41
  for like 3 1/2 hours and did not see a single soul.
• 2:01:44
  Oh shit. Yeah, so I was like I had to be
• 2:01:46
  very careful because like it had big ass graded place, like
• 2:01:49
  graded plates on the ground and I can literally fall through.
• 2:01:52
  It was crazy. I won't ask you why you got
• 2:01:54
  naked. What was the most embarrassing?
• 2:01:56
  What was the most embarrassing? Hairstyle you've ever had?
• 2:02:00
  Hairstyle. Yeah.
• 2:02:02
  When I first started my dreadlocks, yeah.
• 2:02:04
  How long was? It like fucking this big.
• 2:02:08
  I look like little centipedes on my head.
• 2:02:11
  Everybody told me when I first got him Cut this shit.
• 2:02:14
  Cut it. Cut it.
• 2:02:15
  No, you're gonna be ugly with dreads.
• 2:02:17
  Now every single one of them wanna play with my hair had a
• 2:02:20
  circle of life. Lion King was correct.
• 2:02:24
  So this is the last question. If you had to pick three songs
• 2:02:28
  for your entire life or for your Life anthem, what would they be
• 2:02:32
  and why? Matter which artist?
• 2:02:35
  It doesn't matter. Just three songs.
• 2:02:39
  On my way, Eric Bellinger. Don't take your love away,
• 2:02:45
  Avant. And let me see, I got Thing
• 2:02:49
  Real. Hard.
• 2:02:50
  Can I look at my Yeah, go for it.
• 2:02:52
  Playlist. Hold on, I might rearrange that.
• 2:02:54
  It's easy. He knows what that means.
• 2:02:56
  But, and I will say, God send me Angel, my song turn to that for
• 2:03:16
  later. OK.
• 2:03:17
  So again, thank you. We've had the great opportunity
• 2:03:21
  to hear from you. Know, your life story, your
• 2:03:24
  passions, your entrance. So tell us and our listeners,
• 2:03:27
  how can everyone find you and support you?
• 2:03:29
  You can text me directly at I'm fucking playing Invite me out.
• 2:03:37
  No. Yeah, definitely invite me out.
• 2:03:39
  Y'all hit me up on Instagram. It's at Columbus Berry.
• 2:03:42
  Official at Heller Shots today, you.
• 2:03:47
  Want Heller shots today? And then you can go on tick damn
• 2:03:50
  you dropping the mic girl and not like Chris Rock, but fuck.
• 2:03:55
  I don't really. I do some stuff on TikTok but
• 2:03:57
  you know I'm not famous or apparently cute enough to go
• 2:04:00
  viral on there. So.
• 2:04:02
  Or my ass. Or my ass isn't fat enough.
• 2:04:05
  One of the two. But yeah, you can find me on all
• 2:04:08
  streaming platforms over in Columbus Berry.
• 2:04:10
  You can hit me up on Instagram. I have a very high success rate
• 2:04:13
  of replying to people. Just don't be fucking stupid.
• 2:04:18
  Other than that, yeah. So that's you heard it here
• 2:04:23
  first, Columbus Ferry. No, you did not hear it from
• 2:04:26
  here first because he's actually been on another podcast this
• 2:04:28
  week. Columbus, I thought.
• 2:04:31
  We were special. Hey, look, we can do a.
• 2:04:32
  Round two if y'all want if we can do a round two if y'all want
• 2:04:35
  just look definitely do that we'll definitely do that.
• 2:04:37
  You can find this chocolate Tarzan on at Columbus Ferry
• 2:04:41
  Official. Yes, ma'am.
• 2:04:42
  And Pariba Paribajo Pacentro Pacentro epadentro.
• 2:04:55
  Epadentro, but I can't do that. Here's Seal.
• 2:05:00
  Oh, here's oh, thank you. Appreciate it.