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Sen Hoffman and Human Composting · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Right now we're talking about human composting, which I'm just
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  Speaker 1: I'm baffled, befuddled, and kind of a little nauseous thinking
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  Speaker 1: about this idea of human compost. This is, as Zach said,
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  Speaker 1: this is soylent green stuff. Man, I just yuck a
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  Speaker 1: two one WTVN Paul. You're on the Legacy Retirement Group
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  Speaker 1: dot com phone lines. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, Thank you, Chuck. So I would tell you
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  Speaker 2: I'm not the composting whatever you've been talking about. We
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  Speaker 2: sent my parents to the Ohio University Body donor program.
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  Speaker 2: They pick them up, they take them away, they donate
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  Speaker 2: them to science. They send you the cremation a year
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  Speaker 2: or so down the road. Now, back then didn't cost
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  Speaker 2: you anything. Now I think they may have a charge,
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  Speaker 2: but you are at least donating your body to science.
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  Speaker 1: They charge you to make a donation.
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  Speaker 2: They might, I don't know if they charge you. I
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  Speaker 2: heard they may be changing that thing and whatnot. But
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  Speaker 2: they didn't charge me when we did it years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm telling you these schools they needed the bodies,
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  Speaker 2: and why not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean that's a legitimate that's a legitimate purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Is I've always found that kind of odd too, But
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  Speaker 1: I do understand that because you know, medical schools have
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  Speaker 1: to have bodies to learn how to be doctors and
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  Speaker 1: surgeons and the like, and so I can get that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, was that something your parents wanted or did
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  Speaker 1: you just?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did, they did, Absolutely they wanted it. Then
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  Speaker 2: their will.
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  Speaker 1: Huh. All right, well, hey, I appreciate Paul, thanks very
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  Speaker 1: much for the call. A two one nine eighty six
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  Speaker 1: A two on WJ. Yeah, that I can see that.
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  Speaker 1: I can see medical science the donation thing. If you
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  Speaker 1: have to pay to donate, I wouldn't. I heard in
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  Speaker 1: the news there as Alison was doing I think it
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  Speaker 1: was six o'clock news. He's talking about the blood shortage
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  Speaker 1: and are you a Blood Donors Act? Do you do it?
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  Speaker 1: Eate blood? Sometimes? I have not in many, many years,
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  Speaker 1: you know how I am because I went off on
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  Speaker 1: the tirade about the organ donations and all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, and I'm not an organ donor either. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like the setup. I don't like the way it works.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that everybody in the process
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  Speaker 1: gets paid, but it's illegal for the donator get paid. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the donor's family to get paid at the am right,
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  Speaker 1: the person who's getting the organ is obviously profiting because
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  Speaker 1: they're getting the organ. The medical staff, the hospital and
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  Speaker 1: everything that removed the organ, they're getting paid. The medical
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  Speaker 1: staff in the hospital that put the organ in the
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  Speaker 1: new person, they're getting paid. The people that transport the
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  Speaker 1: organ from one place to the other, they're getting paid.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's getting paid. But if you're about to lose your
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  Speaker 1: family's home and somebody goes I'll give you thirty five
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  Speaker 1: thousand for a kidney and that would save your home,
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  Speaker 1: you're breaking the law if you take that deal. Don't
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  Speaker 1: like that. Don't like it at all. Six and davere
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  Speaker 1: on sixth n WUTV and height.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, good eating chopped. I just wanted to note that
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that you can select your own casket
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  Speaker 3: through Costco online now days.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, somebody told me about that a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: I looked it up. I couldn't believe you could buy
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  Speaker 1: a casket at Costco.
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  Speaker 3: So do they do? They also offer those wooden caskets
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  Speaker 3: that would serve as a uh you know, as a
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  Speaker 3: way to go ahead and uh you know, malt I
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  Speaker 3: guess mulch your body.
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  Speaker 1: To begin the degradation process. I you know, that makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: but the state has some pretty strict laws on what
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  Speaker 1: you've got to get a casket. It's usually metal or
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  Speaker 1: or a hardwood it's lacquered, and then that is placed
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  Speaker 1: inside of a cement vault. And then and that is
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  Speaker 1: what goes in the ground, which you know, that's just
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  Speaker 1: that's that's a lot of money. Why why do I
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  Speaker 1: need to cement vault. I'm going to I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: turn to dust, ashes to ashes, dust to dust. That's
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  Speaker 1: what the book says. Why do I need a cement vault.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just paying somebody for something else that Oh well.
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  Speaker 3: And and by the way, as speaking of Charlie Kirk's
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  Speaker 3: alleged murderer, who realize you still has a uh, firing squad.
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  Speaker 1: They offer firing squad as well as hanging in Utah.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be good with either.
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  Speaker 2: Market.
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  Speaker 1: Mark and I were talking earlier. You know, it's getting
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  Speaker 1: the point where people are so sick and so savage. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: there there may be a need to establish a law
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  Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio where even if we
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  Speaker 1: have a death penalty that we don't enforce now if
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  Speaker 1: we ever have one, we do you die in the
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  Speaker 1: same way that you took a life, That in itself
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  Speaker 1: could be a deterrent.
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  Speaker 3: That would be brutal.
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  Speaker 1: That yeah, in some cases, yes, it would be. And
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  Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps even if you're going to kill somebody, it
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be this psycho rated r Alfred Hitchcock Twilight Zone
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  Speaker 1: crapola that we see from people these days, cutting up
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  Speaker 1: bodies and all that kind of stuff. Maybe if they
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  Speaker 1: know that's what's ahead of them, if they're caught and convicted,
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  Speaker 1: they they might at least be a little more humane
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  Speaker 1: about taking a life.
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  Speaker 3: And Pammy May is offered a deal or twenty years
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  Speaker 3: for yeah, yeah, we don't want to get into that.
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  Speaker 3: That's a rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 1: Makes me sick. Anybody who's ever looked at a child
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  Speaker 1: and and and can accept a plea bargain for somebody
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  Speaker 1: to put a child dead in a sewer pipe, you
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  Speaker 1: you you've got no conscience if you're good with a plea.
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  Speaker 1: But she needs to go to jail for the rest
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  Speaker 1: of her life period, No probation, no parole, no no nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Just lock her up in a cell and then let
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  Speaker 1: her rot there.
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  Speaker 3: And whoever had oversight over that assignment. M hm uh
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  Speaker 3: wait yeah, rabbit hole man.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it is Jeff. I appreciate your call, buddy, thanks
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  Speaker 1: very much. A two to one w TV and the
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  Speaker 1: number the tips said, ain't mad man, Senator Steve, i'men
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  Speaker 1: joining us. How are you there?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing well on yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Been a long time since I've heard from you. My
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  Speaker 1: spirits were low, but now that you're back on my phone,
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  Speaker 1: I feel happy.
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  Speaker 4: I got a lot for you. So as a doctor, yes,
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  Speaker 4: the medical aspect is un invaluable in medical school. To Ashley,
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  Speaker 4: look at a body, dissect it. It is just a
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  Speaker 4: great education.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I. I see the necessity for that, because
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  Speaker 1: the only way we're going to maintain skills for for
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  Speaker 1: graduates of medical school going into practice is to let
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  Speaker 1: them practice on what they'll be working on.
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  Speaker 4: The other thing that gentleman was just talking about. I
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  Speaker 4: was reading an article today. You know, in Canada, medical
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  Speaker 4: assistance suicide as legal, and now they're doing medical assisted
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  Speaker 4: organ donation as the way of death. So you wanted
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  Speaker 4: to donate, you're a healthy person and you're going to
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  Speaker 4: you want to kill yourself? A physician assistant suicide? They
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  Speaker 4: will or harvest your organ as the means to your death.
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  Speaker 1: Now that is that is, that's that's Rosemary's baby stuff. Man,
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  Speaker 1: where's the people in the druid robes? That's crazy that
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  Speaker 1: that that is.
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  Speaker 4: But so what you do with with the decomposition is
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  Speaker 4: that they get the body and they put some chemicals
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  Speaker 4: on it that takes the two year process into about
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  Speaker 4: thirty days and make it and your body that composes
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  Speaker 4: into a kind of a slush.
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  Speaker 1: So the mafia is going to start selling bags of
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  Speaker 1: lime again, is what you're telling me.
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  Speaker 4: That's somewhat. But there's another thing that they that is
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  Speaker 4: legal here in Ohio. There's a cemetery in Dayton that
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  Speaker 4: does it is what's known as a natural burial. And
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  Speaker 4: there's certain parts of the cemetery where you do this
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  Speaker 4: and basically you're wrapped in a cloth, you dig a hole,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and you bury your body. And that's you're
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  Speaker 4: not inbalmed, know anything like that. You're not in a casket,
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  Speaker 4: you're in a blanket, and you're a natural burial.
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  Speaker 1: How do they manage to how do they manage to
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  Speaker 1: do that? The state has such restrictive rules about burial.
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  Speaker 1: How do they get away with doing.
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  Speaker 4: That, and certain certain cemeteries have a certain permit to
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  Speaker 4: be able to have what's known as a natural burial.
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  Speaker 4: There are some religions that that is the process. There's
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  Speaker 4: another bill. I haven't seen it in a while, but
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  Speaker 4: Representative Russellfords and Cincinnati brought it several times, and I
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  Speaker 4: called it to breaking bad.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Basically, you take a fifty five gallon drum of acid
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  Speaker 4: and you liquify instantly, liquify the body. Oh and uh
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  Speaker 4: that has been proposed several times but has never He's
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  Speaker 4: never gotten anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good, Yeah, good, Well it is. It's good to
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  Speaker 1: hear from you as uh as you know, it's been
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  Speaker 1: what five maybe six months I think since I've had
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  Speaker 1: you on the show. It's just nice to have you.
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  Speaker 1: Incidentally call well.
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  Speaker 4: I was driving home from a committee on the Controlling
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  Speaker 4: Board and uh, I, as always, I listened to your
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  Speaker 4: show on the way home, and UH, it's good to
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  Speaker 4: talk to you, and I'll I'll be back soon.
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  Speaker 1: And you have a good day, all right, Center you too.
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  Speaker 1: I'll have to get you on here in the near
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  Speaker 1: future so we can because I haven't had any updates
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  Speaker 1: about the bills and and so forth that you are
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  Speaker 1: working on trying to get past. And I know political
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  Speaker 1: season as hot, as we've pointed out with Congressman Jordan earlier,
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  Speaker 1: it's we're within that hundred day windows. So a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people are gonna get politicked out. But I'm not
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  Speaker 1: one of them. So we will get the senator helpman
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  Speaker 1: in here very soon and find out what's going on
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  Speaker 1: in his legislative world. A two nine eighty six puts
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  Speaker 1: Ken on six' ten DOU wtv And, ken how are you?
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  Speaker 5: Doing, Oh i'm not too bad in.
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  Speaker 1: YOURSELF i am okay as far AS i.
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  Speaker 5: Know, oh that's good to hear out. Here mow in
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  Speaker 5: the grass and was listening to your. CONVERSATION i, SAID
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  Speaker 5: i got a call in two, THINGS a couple of.
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  Speaker 1: Things you weren't mowing your grass and looking at the
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  Speaker 1: brown spots GOING i could use some of that human
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  Speaker 1: compost right over.
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  Speaker 5: There exactly. Exactly well, Anyway I'm i'm a hostice, nurse
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  Speaker 5: bedside hostice. Nurse but that's beside the. POINT i had
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  Speaker 5: a patient who and he passed. Away he elected to
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  Speaker 5: be buried in his, backyard which he got a permit,
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  Speaker 5: for and he was wrapped in a cloth of mushrooms
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  Speaker 5: to help the. Composting. Wow he had to get a special.
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  Speaker 5: Permit the family had to get a special permit to
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  Speaker 5: do that and to bury him in the yard and
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  Speaker 5: designated as a portion of the yard as a. Cemetery number,
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  Speaker 5: two there is a cemetery up in outside A moral
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  Speaker 5: And marion that just started doing the natural burial that
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  Speaker 5: the gentleman before me was just talking.
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  Speaker 1: About that's something. ELSE i Think i'd like a, casket
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  Speaker 1: BUT i don't want TOY i you, KNOW i just
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  Speaker 1: your basic old pine box would be. FINE i guess
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  Speaker 1: it's made for a good country so. Well BUT i paid,
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  Speaker 1: yeah seven or eight thousand dollars for some mahogany mahogany
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  Speaker 1: piece of. Art you're just gonna put it in the.
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  Speaker 1: Ground i'm not good with that.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly and you don't have to have a leadline. Casket
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  Speaker 5: you don't have to have the concrete if you do
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  Speaker 5: the natural. Burial, uh it's you, know you just go
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  Speaker 5: on the ground and you fertilize the ground the Way
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  Speaker 5: god Made god made.
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  Speaker 1: Us THAT'S i like, THAT i really. Do you, know
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  Speaker 1: we got into natural childbirth and all that kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff but why not the end being natural. Too why
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  Speaker 1: is it taking its so long to get around to.
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  Speaker 5: That well because everybody's afraid of what might leach into the.
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  Speaker 5: Water they don't realize that dirt and grass is a
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  Speaker 5: natural barrier and a natural, filter.
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  Speaker 1: And you become part of the dirt and. GRASS i,
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  Speaker 1: mean that's that's the you, know the circle of life.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly by the time you're in the, ecosystem you are
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  Speaker 1: actually part of the. Ecosystem so that's how it's supposed to.
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  Speaker 5: Be and you fertilize the grass and you fertilize the.
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  Speaker 1: Fields, yeah the lung looks. Nice Thanks Uncle. Daddy can't
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  Speaker 1: get back to your, yardwork. BUDDY i appreciate the. Call
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  Speaker 1: IT'S i JUST i still DON'T i can't see myself
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  Speaker 1: doing the combos, thing BUT i do like that natural burial.
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  Speaker 1: THING i JUST i don't. Know you're looking at me,
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  Speaker 1: like why are you even thinking about? This because, no
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  Speaker 1: it's it's. NOT i want to be a part of
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  Speaker 1: your life, forever forever and. Ever do you want me
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  Speaker 1: to read me? Around you want me to get a
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  Speaker 1: plot next to me so you can just YOU i
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  Speaker 1: just met people in the. World OH i thought you
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  Speaker 1: meant my, life you wanted to be a part of my.
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  Speaker 1: Life i'm going to produce your, Death. Chuck i'll be
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  Speaker 1: how great it was this past. Week i'm sure you
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed every moment without. Me MISS i missed you, too all, Right,
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  Speaker 1: well music's. Playing that means it. Is, uh it's the
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  Speaker 1: end of our little. Rainbow so far this, AFTERNOON i
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  Speaker 1: can't believe how quick this day is. Gone but when
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  Speaker 1: you get back to doing what you, love, yes time
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  Speaker 1: moves very. Fast coming up tomorrow, NIGHT i will be
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: grousing about a couple of, things including this, ridiculous, ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous list of school supplies my grandkids. Got, man they're
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  Speaker 1: getting out of, Hand and it's not about what they,
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  Speaker 1: want it's about how much they. Want it's not that
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  Speaker 1: they want a. Budge they want it for all the
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  Speaker 1: other kids whose parents don't put. In, oh that ain't,
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  Speaker 1: Happening but we'll talk about it tomorrow