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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
- 0:07Speaker 2: and Jim Garritty of National Review.
- 0:10Speaker 3: Free Martini's coming up. So glad you're with us for
- 0:14Speaker 3: the Wednesday edition of The Three Martini Lunch. Good to
- 0:17Speaker 3: be back. Thanks to Craig Collins for filling in for
- 0:19Speaker 3: me for several days and Jim. You know, we were
- 0:22Speaker 3: making our way back towards DC on Monday when the
- 0:25Speaker 3: Platiner news came out, and I'm like, oh man, I'm
- 0:28Speaker 3: gonna miss talking about that with Jim on Tuesday. And
- 0:30Speaker 3: then I thought, you know, maybe I should take another
- 0:33Speaker 3: week off, because if one week off means Platiners out,
- 0:35Speaker 3: maybe another one means l say Ed or Tallaika or
- 0:38Speaker 3: one of these other radicals we'll get out. But ultimately
- 0:41Speaker 3: I said, no, I have to be back because I
- 0:44Speaker 3: looked at what you guys talked about and I can't
- 0:46Speaker 3: let this turn into a soccer podcast. So I had
- 0:48Speaker 3: to return. Lots lots of drama on the field and off,
- 0:54Speaker 3: but anyway, good to be back. Great vacation, and let's
- 0:57Speaker 3: dive in with a little more grand Platiner. Obviously, Jim
- 1:00Speaker 3: and Craig covered the new allegations and the fact that
- 1:03Speaker 3: Plattner is, you know, taking time to reflect or whatever
- 1:06Speaker 3: on the best path forward. Bernie Sanders has now joined
- 1:10Speaker 3: the chorus for wanting to get him out, and Jim,
- 1:14Speaker 3: you know, as you guys discussed, you know, the Democrats
- 1:18Speaker 3: overlooked virtually every other allegation, and there's a pile of allegations,
- 1:22Speaker 3: and so I'm sure Platner was a little bit surprised
- 1:26Speaker 3: that every Democrat instantly, as soon as the political story
- 1:29Speaker 3: came out, turned on him. It's almost like some sort
- 1:31Speaker 3: of lightning warfare that he was simply unprepared for, kind
- 1:34Speaker 3: of a blitzkrig type situation. And he's he's on his
- 1:38Speaker 3: heels right now. But what happens next, of course, is
- 1:42Speaker 3: very significant. I believe he has until Monday to voluntarily withdraw,
- 1:47Speaker 3: and at that point the Democrats would have about two
- 1:49Speaker 3: weeks to decide who would be the next person to
- 1:52Speaker 3: put on the ballot, and they've already decided they're going
- 1:53Speaker 3: to try to rush some sort of mini convention if
- 1:56Speaker 3: he gets out. But the longer he doesn't get out,
- 1:59Speaker 3: the more people wonder if he actually is getting out,
- 2:02Speaker 3: and The conventional wisdom is that he's trying to use
- 2:06Speaker 3: that leverage to make sure that the next candidate is
- 2:08Speaker 3: someone of his ilk, and other people are understanding that.
- 2:13Speaker 3: Other people are not understanding that. One is Chris Solizza,
- 2:16Speaker 3: who tweeted out yesterday Platner trying to negotiate who will
- 2:19Speaker 3: replace him, suggests he has a deep misunderstanding of his
- 2:21Speaker 3: current situation. You have zero leverage, dude. Then Sean trend
- 2:26Speaker 3: Over at Real Clear Politics says, I don't know why
- 2:27Speaker 3: so many people are having a hard time understanding this.
- 2:30Speaker 3: He has all the leverage. They want, a blank ballot slot,
- 2:32Speaker 3: they can film. There's nothing they can really give him
- 2:34Speaker 3: in return, because it's a rape charge. It's not like
- 2:36Speaker 3: he can run for anything ever again. And so I guess, Jim,
- 2:40Speaker 3: he's got this thing and it's bleeping golden, and he's
- 2:42Speaker 3: going to do whatever he wants to do, to quote
- 2:45Speaker 3: Rob Blogoyevitch, to make sure that either gets the best
- 2:48Speaker 3: deal or ends up staying in. What do you thinks
- 2:49Speaker 3: can happen here?
- 2:50Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Greg, you know, I suspect that
- 2:52Speaker 4: right now Platner feels like he has been stepping back
- 2:57Speaker 4: to use to continue our metaphors. In the last twenty
- 3:01Speaker 4: four hours. What is really thirty six hours, I guess
- 3:03Speaker 4: has been really fascinating to watch is two main reactions
- 3:07Speaker 4: from people who had supported him up until the beginning
- 3:10Speaker 4: of this week. One was yet another round of ah,
- 3:14Speaker 4: how could we be so fooled, you know, and patting
- 3:17Speaker 4: themselves on the back for I backed him after the
- 3:20Speaker 4: first six major scandals, but on the seventh one, I
- 3:22Speaker 4: drew a line and I said, you know, and people
- 3:25Speaker 4: who were pretty darn vocal cheerleaders the entire time insisting
- 3:29Speaker 4: they were quote extremely Platin or skeptical unquote, and if
- 3:34Speaker 4: anybody wants to go look up who said that.
- 3:36Speaker 1: You know.
- 3:36Speaker 4: I don't want to drag out all of my personal
- 3:37Speaker 4: drama into this podcast, but just a whole bunch of
- 3:40Speaker 4: people who were perfectly fine with Platin until seventy two
- 3:43Speaker 4: hours ago are now insisting, Oh, I was never that
- 3:46Speaker 4: into the guy.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Oh I barely know what barely who'd never heard of him?
- 3:50Speaker 1: You know.
- 3:52Speaker 4: I think of the two trends, assessment is much closer
- 3:55Speaker 4: to Solissa because these lissas is because under the law,
- 3:59Speaker 4: there's really nothing that the main Democratic Party can do
- 4:02Speaker 4: to get him off the ballot if he does not
- 4:04Speaker 4: withdraw from the race. And you know, I looked up
- 4:07Speaker 4: the law and it was kind of striking that because
- 4:10Speaker 4: my colleague feel Klein had said, yeah, he's got no
- 4:13Speaker 4: like the state party doesn't you.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Know, why should he leave? Right? What what does he
- 4:16Speaker 1: get by leaving? If he leaves the.
- 4:18Speaker 4: Race, He's saying, all the allegations gets to me are
- 4:20Speaker 4: false and are made up, But I'm quitting the race anyway.
- 4:23Speaker 4: And nobody's gonna believe him. Everybody's gonna say, yes, we
- 4:25Speaker 4: think you're guilty. We're pretty having not one but two
- 4:28Speaker 4: ex's accused you of either physical assault or sexual assault.
- 4:32Speaker 4: And there was an even more sordid accusation from Lindsay
- 4:35Speaker 4: Fifeld in the Washington Post yesterday. Probably too gross for
- 4:38Speaker 4: this podcast, but you get the like, you know, so
- 4:40Speaker 4: under the law, the main Democratic Party can replace him
- 4:43Speaker 4: as the Senate nominee if he a withdraws or b dies. Now,
- 4:49Speaker 4: if you are a staffer of Platiner named von Stauffenberg,
- 4:54Speaker 4: do not let him bring a briefcase to the meeting. Freddy,
- 4:57Speaker 4: if you who saw a valkyrie like that's really obvious, right,
- 5:01Speaker 4: that's one of those things, like there's one other plot,
- 5:03Speaker 4: there's one other way to make sure he's not the nominee.
- 5:07Speaker 4: I'm not saying, I'm not encouraging anyone to do that.
- 5:09Speaker 4: I'm just saying I figure the temptation is out there.
- 5:12Speaker 4: To remain the nominee. He has to do nothing. He
- 5:15Speaker 4: doesn't have to like, do what you like. It's there
- 5:17Speaker 4: that the party has to convince it. And so here's
- 5:19Speaker 4: the thing I said. If he resigns, everybody thinks he's
- 5:22Speaker 4: guilty of this. If he stays in, if he keeps denying,
- 5:25Speaker 4: if he's officially the Democratic candidate the Democratic Party of Maine,
- 5:29Speaker 4: they could try to nominate somebody else in a right
- 5:31Speaker 4: in bid. Lisa Murkowski can pull that off. But otherwise
- 5:35Speaker 4: you figure that's going to be extremely difficult, and it
- 5:37Speaker 4: makes them extremely unlikely to beat Susan Collins. I think
- 5:40Speaker 4: Susan Collins now about his safe a bet for reelection
- 5:44Speaker 4: as you can find in these circumstances. She's going to
- 5:46Speaker 4: crack him like a main lobster. But if he stays
- 5:49Speaker 4: in and he you know, first of all, a certain
- 5:51Speaker 4: number of Democrats will resign themselves to voting for him.
- 5:54Speaker 4: It's a binary choice. We have to stop Trump. We
- 5:57Speaker 4: need Democrats in charge of it. You could just see
- 6:00Speaker 4: all the mental gymnastics Democrats will will go through in
- 6:04Speaker 4: order to justify voting for him, even though they've denounced
- 6:07Speaker 4: him and called Brittany Cohen has just said, does nobody
- 6:11Speaker 4: remember Ralph Northam and how everybody in the party said
- 6:14Speaker 4: he had to resign and he just didn't. Roy Moore
- 6:18Speaker 4: had all creepy guy chasing the teenage girls at the
- 6:21Speaker 4: shopping mall, stayed in the race, right, Anthony Wiener the
- 6:25Speaker 4: second time when he was running for the local pacition,
- 6:27Speaker 4: Like these guys like shamelessness is their their superpower?
- 6:31Speaker 1: Right? Like? Like what are they like?
- 6:33Speaker 4: They have no private sector gig to go back to.
- 6:36Speaker 4: They have no teaching gig at Harvard, no book deal,
- 6:40Speaker 4: no cable news type gig.
- 6:43Speaker 5: You know.
- 6:43Speaker 4: May yeah, if Plattner stays in, he'll lose, but then
- 6:46Speaker 4: he'll probably able to do podcasts and say, you know,
- 6:49Speaker 4: I was gonna win. And then the establishment and the
- 6:52Speaker 4: oligarchs and Apek got together and they got everybody who
- 6:55Speaker 4: ever knew me to make false accusations against me. And
- 6:58Speaker 4: there are some people who will want to leave that.
- 7:01Speaker 4: So at this point, I, you know, like with each
- 7:04Speaker 4: passing hour that he does not drop out, I feel
- 7:07Speaker 4: like it makes it more likely that he doesn't drop
- 7:09Speaker 4: out and that he decides to think, you know, like
- 7:11Speaker 4: access Hollywood tape. This thing will be forgotten in seventy
- 7:13Speaker 4: two hours. Spoiler alert, it will not be forgotten in
- 7:15Speaker 4: seventy two hours. But this does not seem like a
- 7:18Speaker 4: guy who has an abundance of cost benefit rational analysis
- 7:22Speaker 4: within him. So the idea that he can talk himself
- 7:25Speaker 4: into I can survive this and come back. You know,
- 7:28Speaker 4: why wouldn't he once he got to what does he gain?
- 7:30Speaker 4: But dropping out and making life easier for main Democrats
- 7:32Speaker 4: especially is nothing.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Nothing, He's got nothing to lose unless he's genuine about
- 7:37Speaker 3: the most important thing being that someone other than Susan
- 7:39Speaker 3: Collins holds that Senate seat. And right now I'm not
- 7:42Speaker 3: sure or that it's ever been his top priority.
- 7:45Speaker 4: But who could have possibly predicted that, after all this,
- 7:49Speaker 4: Graham Plattner would screw over Democrats and not be a
- 7:52Speaker 4: good person. If only there been some signed if only
- 7:54Speaker 4: there been some red flag to warn them.
- 7:56Speaker 3: You know, I know it's funny that she said, they'll
- 7:59Speaker 3: come up with some sort of mental gymnastics to justify
- 8:01Speaker 3: supporting him once again after abandoning him briefly, and like
- 8:05Speaker 3: it's not hard to imagine because they've done it on
- 8:06Speaker 3: the previous dozen allegations or revelations, and so they'll figure
- 8:11Speaker 3: out a way to do it again, just because power
- 8:12Speaker 3: is all they care about. But one other little twist
- 8:15Speaker 3: here we're going to throw on here Arizona Senator Ruben Diego.
- 8:18Speaker 3: The last time we talked about Ruben Diego, he was,
- 8:21Speaker 3: you know, the best friend of Eric Swalwell and shocked, shocked,
- 8:24Speaker 3: had no idea that Eric Swalwell was this kind of
- 8:27Speaker 3: serial predator. But he was also on a podcast not
- 8:31Speaker 3: that long ago with the Bulwark, and here's what he
- 8:34Speaker 3: had to say to vouch for Grant Platnir.
- 8:36Speaker 2: This guy is an authentic man, you know, he's not
- 8:40Speaker 2: anti Semitic, you know. And more importantly, you know, not
- 8:44Speaker 2: more importantly, but just as important is that he's going
- 8:46Speaker 2: to win this election. And we need to win elections.
- 8:49Speaker 2: We cannot go another four or five six years, you know,
- 8:53Speaker 2: trying to get the Senate back, like we need to
- 8:56Speaker 2: consistently win because whoever's going to be president twenty twenty eight,
- 8:59Speaker 2: we need to have and them the House and the Senate.
- 9:02Speaker 3: And the and so, you know, Jim, it's all about
- 9:04Speaker 3: the power ultimately. But I love that well, he's authentic,
- 9:07Speaker 3: He's authentically awful. Does that make a bag yeah, any better?
- 9:11Speaker 3: And you pointed out how the Bullwark has been carrying
- 9:13Speaker 3: water for him to this point. So, I mean, just
- 9:17Speaker 3: Rubon Diego is certainly not someone who is really a
- 9:21Speaker 3: reliable person who can vouch for another person's character after
- 9:24Speaker 3: these two.
- 9:24Speaker 4: Cases, Greg, I'm sorry your audio cut out. Which publication
- 9:27Speaker 4: was he was that podcast on Bulwark the Bullwark?
- 9:30Speaker 1: Okay?
- 9:31Speaker 4: So, and would you characterize those remarks from either Ruben
- 9:34Speaker 4: Diego or host Tim Miller? Would you characterize that as
- 9:36Speaker 4: being extremely platin or skeptical?
- 9:38Speaker 1: No, really, he doesn't.
- 9:40Speaker 4: He does because I've been reliably assured that the Bulwark was,
- 9:45Speaker 4: you know, consistently platin or skeptical since the beginning. Listener
- 9:49Speaker 4: that you know that that whole appearance of but one
- 9:52Speaker 4: of the signs that you're not platinor skepticals. You have
- 9:54Speaker 4: Ruben Diego on your podcast, not not everybody's as selective
- 9:58Speaker 4: in their guests as we are. But observe that that's interesting,
- 10:01Speaker 4: interesting choice there, because I was assured that the bulwark
- 10:04Speaker 4: had been very skeptical since the very beginning and all
- 10:07Speaker 4: that stuff. Also, if you're a man and Ruben Diego
- 10:11Speaker 4: is your friend, lose his number, because the last thing
- 10:16Speaker 4: you want is Ruben Diego coming out and say this
- 10:18Speaker 4: is a man who I trust and who is an
- 10:20Speaker 4: excellent man of excellent character. This is like Hugh Hefner
- 10:23Speaker 4: saying this guy is as pure as the driven snow.
- 10:26Speaker 4: You just don't want that endorsement. If anything, promise Diego
- 10:31Speaker 4: favors so that he doesn't endorse you, because that's automatically
- 10:34Speaker 4: a sign of suspicion.
- 10:35Speaker 1: At this point.
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- 12:24Speaker 1: All right, Jim.
- 12:25Speaker 3: Let's move to Iran and President Trump is in Turkey
- 12:29Speaker 3: and he's meeting with NATO members there, and obviously of
- 12:32Speaker 3: the last day or so, and really even before that,
- 12:35Speaker 3: Iran's been firing on commercial ships again in the Persian
- 12:38Speaker 3: golf Straits of horror moves the US responding. I think
- 12:41Speaker 3: yesterday's response is probably more significant than anything we've seen
- 12:44Speaker 3: in terms of this back and forth since the signing
- 12:46Speaker 3: of the Memorandum of Understanding. Trump obviously fed up with
- 12:51Speaker 3: Iran consistently violating the terms of the Memorandum of understanding.
- 12:56Speaker 3: He's not only firing back, but he's also basically stop
- 13:00Speaker 3: their ability to sell oil, at least for the time being.
- 13:03Speaker 3: But he also thinks the MoU is mostly dead.
- 13:07Speaker 4: Fire over?
- 13:08Speaker 1: Is he fire done? Is the Emou dead?
- 13:12Speaker 5: It's a very interesting question to me. I think it's over.
- 13:17Speaker 5: I don't want to deal with him any with there's scum.
- 13:19Speaker 5: You know what scum is. There's scum, there's sick people.
- 13:23Speaker 5: They're lit by sick people, and they're vicious, violent people,
- 13:28Speaker 5: and if they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it.
- 13:30Speaker 5: As far as I'm concerned, it's over. I'll speak to
- 13:33Speaker 5: our negotiators. They want to negotiate. They're good people, Steve
- 13:36Speaker 5: wood Cuff, Jared Kusher, but they have to come back
- 13:40Speaker 5: to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just a
- 13:42Speaker 5: waste of time dealing with them. They're liars. We make
- 13:46Speaker 5: a deal, and if I make a deal with him,
- 13:48Speaker 5: we have a deal, and he goes out, he talks,
- 13:51Speaker 5: We make a deal, everyone's agreed, no nuclear weapon. We
- 13:54Speaker 5: make a deal. They go outside, talk to the press.
- 13:56Speaker 5: They say, we never even talked about it. There's something
- 13:59Speaker 5: wrong with them. Cuckoo far as I'm concerned, you sover.
- 14:04Speaker 3: They're cuckoo. But they're also radical. Islamis and that's the
- 14:06Speaker 3: problem there. So, Jim, do you think it is actually dead?
- 14:11Speaker 3: I know how much regard you have for the Memorandum
- 14:13Speaker 3: of Understanding, so I'm sure you'd be horrified if it
- 14:16Speaker 3: did not come to fruition here. But of course the
- 14:18Speaker 3: question after that is then what, So where do you
- 14:21Speaker 3: see this?
- 14:22Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard the argument that despite this latest outburst,
- 14:25Speaker 4: the Memorandum of hers Understanding is not dead. It is
- 14:28Speaker 4: merely pining for the fjords. Now it's not pining. It
- 14:32Speaker 4: has passed on. It is no more. It has ceased
- 14:35Speaker 4: to be. It has expired and gone to meet its maker. Stiff,
- 14:39Speaker 4: bereft of life, rests in peace. If you nailed it
- 14:42Speaker 4: to the perch, it'd be pushing up the daisies. Its
- 14:44Speaker 4: metabolic processes are now history. Off the twig, kick the bucket,
- 14:48Speaker 4: shoveled up it's mortal coil, run down the curtain and
- 14:51Speaker 4: join the bleeding choir invisible. This is an ex memorandum
- 14:55Speaker 4: of understanding. Credit to Monty Python for the parrots. So,
- 15:00Speaker 4: on the one hand, good this does leave me wondering
- 15:03Speaker 4: what the point of it all was. From the very beginning,
- 15:06Speaker 4: from the beginning of the conflict. I've a pointed out
- 15:09Speaker 4: time and time again that the Iranian regime has broken
- 15:12Speaker 4: every treaty and every deal it's ever signed. So they're
- 15:16Speaker 4: just this inherently duplicitous, untrustworthy regime. And you know, putting
- 15:22Speaker 4: aside the fact that I'm not a huge fan of
- 15:23Speaker 4: Steve would CoV, you know, I'm a slightly higher opinion
- 15:26Speaker 4: of Jared Kushner. But these guys did not seem like
- 15:29Speaker 4: they like. The whole concept was, why would you assume
- 15:32Speaker 4: a regime that always breaks its word is going to
- 15:35Speaker 4: keep its word in this circumstance, particularly when it appears,
- 15:39Speaker 4: you know, for obvious reasons gas prices, etc.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Donald Trump does not.
- 15:41Speaker 4: Want the war to continue, wants the war to be
- 15:44Speaker 4: done with over in the rear view mirror, and to
- 15:47Speaker 4: try to get you know, back to a more normal
- 15:49Speaker 4: energy price.
- 15:50Speaker 1: And economic environment.
- 15:52Speaker 4: So on the one hand, I'm glad for this, I
- 15:53Speaker 4: kind of wish we had not had the president not
- 15:55Speaker 4: just touting this but also talk about how remember how
- 15:57Speaker 4: rational the Mullas were, how there was so much better
- 16:00Speaker 4: than the previous one. Somebody was saying earlier today on
- 16:02Speaker 4: X like, oh, you know, we don't Trump all these exaggerates. Yeah, yeah,
- 16:04Speaker 4: we know that Trump always exaggerates. And if you want
- 16:07Speaker 4: to say, we have good reasons, you know, we understand
- 16:09Speaker 4: the history, but we have reasons to think that these
- 16:11Speaker 4: are good.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Like, okay, fine, you.
- 16:12Speaker 4: Know when Trump goes on and on about how rational
- 16:15Speaker 4: and good and how much these you know, the Iranian
- 16:17Speaker 4: leaders love their country and all that stuff, and then
- 16:18Speaker 4: a few weeks letter he has to come out and say, oh,
- 16:20Speaker 4: these guys are nuts.
- 16:21Speaker 1: They they like. I think he just looks naive.
- 16:23Speaker 4: I think he just looks, you know, like he's just
- 16:26Speaker 4: in denial of the realities of the regimes. I don't
- 16:28Speaker 4: think there is a way for a serious peaceful co
- 16:30Speaker 4: existence between this regime and the United States or our
- 16:34Speaker 4: allies or are you know, really the rest of the
- 16:36Speaker 4: Middle East. They are who they say they are. They
- 16:39Speaker 4: begin every day with death to America. There's no mutual coexistence,
- 16:43Speaker 4: no mutual understanding to be reached there. So I think
- 16:47Speaker 4: this means the conflict is back on now. How intensely
- 16:49Speaker 4: the US wants to continue this is an open question,
- 16:52Speaker 4: but I think you can genuinely we gave them, the
- 16:54Speaker 4: Iranians by far the best deal they could ever conceivably
- 16:57Speaker 4: ever hope for, and they still manage, they still kept
- 17:00Speaker 4: shooting at ships in the Persian Gulf and going through
- 17:02Speaker 4: the straight of four news. They're not interested in peace,
- 17:04Speaker 4: so let's stop pursuing it with them. Let's recognize that
- 17:06Speaker 4: there's no way to get oro on this other than
- 17:08Speaker 4: all out conflict that leaves the regime no longer in power.
- 17:12Speaker 4: We gave piece the best shot, and it did not work.
- 17:14Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think there's many alternatives there.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Well, we'll see if he amends his position here. But
- 17:20Speaker 3: it's obviously very frustrated, and it certainly seems like this
- 17:24Speaker 3: sixty days is not going well, and we may end
- 17:27Speaker 3: up seeing this scrapped altogether and back to conflict, like
- 17:31Speaker 3: you said, but time will tell. All right, in a moment,
- 17:34Speaker 3: we'll talk about the cost, literally the cost in some
- 17:38Speaker 3: ways of Joe Biden's border disaster. All right, Jim Onto
- 17:46Speaker 3: are really a crazy martini, also a bad martini.
- 17:49Speaker 1: Here?
- 17:49Speaker 3: Just the news. John Solomon reporting here a new Federal
- 17:52Speaker 3: Reserve Bank of Dallas working paper estimates the record surgeon
- 17:56Speaker 3: Illegal immigration during the Biden administration boosted and employment while
- 18:01Speaker 3: causing thirty percent of home price increases and twenty percent
- 18:04Speaker 3: of rent increases. The paper combined immigration court records with
- 18:08Speaker 3: government administrative data to create the first ever calculation of
- 18:12Speaker 3: how a wave of seven million illegal immigrants from twenty
- 18:14Speaker 3: twenty one through twenty twenty four affected local labor and
- 18:17Speaker 3: housing markets. From early twenty one to early twenty four,
- 18:20Speaker 3: the US experienced an unprecedented boom and unauthorized immigration, followed
- 18:24Speaker 3: by a rapid slow down beginning in mid twenty twenty four.
- 18:28Speaker 3: And this is the paper again we provide the first
- 18:30Speaker 3: systematic empirical assessment of the labor and housing markets effect
- 18:34Speaker 3: on this episode. The total weighted mean increase in housing
- 18:37Speaker 3: prices and rents over this period were twenty two point
- 18:40Speaker 3: four percent and twenty two point six percent, respectively. Putting
- 18:43Speaker 3: these together for the average, they can explain approximately thirty
- 18:47Speaker 3: percent of the total increase in house prices and twenty
- 18:51Speaker 3: percent of the total increase in rents.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Jim.
- 18:54Speaker 3: That's not a small increase. That's massive inflation. There are
- 18:57Speaker 3: other inflationary factors that are already driving these things up.
- 19:01Speaker 3: But the burden not only in just you know, social
- 19:03Speaker 3: and welfare services, education, healthcare, what have you obviously the
- 19:08Speaker 3: criminal element of all of this, and now you've got
- 19:11Speaker 3: people paying way more than they otherwise would have because
- 19:14Speaker 3: of Biden's reckless border policy.
- 19:16Speaker 4: So the price of anything gets determined by a supply
- 19:20Speaker 4: and demand. Supply of housing, it can increase, it does increase,
- 19:25Speaker 4: but it takes a while to increase. Anybody who's ever
- 19:28Speaker 4: watched a house being built, or let's say, I don't know,
- 19:30Speaker 4: hypothetically a tree falls in your house and you need
- 19:32Speaker 4: to have repairs for it. Yeah, home construction takes a while.
- 19:36Speaker 4: Home construction takes even more, by the way, when you
- 19:37Speaker 4: have shortages of supplies and all that stuff this, you know,
- 19:40Speaker 4: those are kind of separate factors. The question is like,
- 19:42Speaker 4: if you're one whire housing prices going up or going down, well,
- 19:45Speaker 4: how's the housing supply going and how's the housing demand going?
- 19:48Speaker 1: Now?
- 19:48Speaker 4: Americans are a mobile society. People move for work, people
- 19:52Speaker 4: move to go to college, people move to graduate from college.
- 19:54Speaker 4: They have an opportunity. People you know, get married, they
- 19:57Speaker 4: live to be closer to family, they move to get
- 19:58Speaker 4: further away from their family. It's kind of tough to
- 20:00Speaker 4: figure out exactly what the housing you know, demand is
- 20:03Speaker 4: because it's always changing, But a lot of people want
- 20:05Speaker 4: to live in an area. Housing demand is up, housing
- 20:08Speaker 4: supplies stays the same, or it is only going up
- 20:10Speaker 4: very gradually. Housing prices are going to go up significantly.
- 20:13Speaker 1: This is just.
- 20:14Speaker 4: Assuming you know, the the people being born, people dying,
- 20:18Speaker 4: or remain the same, more people live alone than they
- 20:20Speaker 4: did a while ago. All these things can play into it.
- 20:22Speaker 4: But when you add seven million people in a fairly
- 20:25Speaker 4: short period of time, what do you think is going
- 20:27Speaker 4: to happen? Because those people aren't Some of those people
- 20:30Speaker 4: might be sleeping on the streets, some of those people
- 20:31Speaker 4: might be sleeping in tents or something. But a lot
- 20:33Speaker 4: of those people are going to want and need housing somewhere,
- 20:36Speaker 4: and might be they're going to be in a shelter somewhere,
- 20:38Speaker 4: you know. But it's more of those things where like,
- 20:39Speaker 4: you can't put that much demand into the system and
- 20:42Speaker 4: not not without a corresponding increase in supply, and not.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Expect housing prices to go up? Now? Are there other factors? Nimbiism,
- 20:50Speaker 1: stuff like that. Sure, you know this is not what
- 20:52Speaker 1: it's going to say.
- 20:53Speaker 4: The sole reason that your house prices are going up
- 20:56Speaker 4: is because of illegal immigration. But it was a factor. Oh,
- 21:00Speaker 4: by the way, while all this was going on, Greg,
- 21:02Speaker 4: what was what was the Biden administration doing to the
- 21:05Speaker 4: money supply?
- 21:06Speaker 3: Artificially increasing it right huge a couple trillion and spending
- 21:09Speaker 3: us So we're gonna make.
- 21:11Speaker 4: You know, at the same time, we're increasing demand for housing,
- 21:15Speaker 4: and at the same time we're going to keep the
- 21:16Speaker 4: level of housing either the same or increasing only very slowly.
- 21:20Speaker 4: We're gonna make the value of the dollar go down.
- 21:22Speaker 4: What do you think that's going to do to housing prices?
- 21:24Speaker 4: What do you think that's going to do to rental
- 21:25Speaker 4: prices and all that kind of stuff. Look, I'm sure
- 21:28Speaker 4: there are some good folks in that seven million, but
- 21:30Speaker 4: they did not have a right to enter the country.
- 21:32Speaker 4: They did not have a right to stay. Do you
- 21:34Speaker 4: really want you want to get out of trouble, go
- 21:36Speaker 4: home to your home country, apply legally, go through the process. Yeah,
- 21:38Speaker 4: I know it's a pain in the neck, but you
- 21:40Speaker 4: know what, we have the right to determine who comes
- 21:41Speaker 4: into this country. And the Biden administration's attitude for four
- 21:44Speaker 4: years was no, we don't have to do that. And
- 21:45Speaker 4: now we see the consequences of that, and you know,
- 21:48Speaker 4: I'm glad I'm glad the Federal Reserve did this study,
- 21:51Speaker 4: and glad they were willing to spotlight the negative parts.
- 21:53Speaker 4: I strongly suspect this will only weirdos like you and
- 21:56Speaker 4: me are going to pay attention to this, Greg and
- 21:58Speaker 4: aren'tiful listeners who, let's face it, they're kind of weirdos too.
- 22:03Speaker 1: We love our listeners, We love them.
- 22:05Speaker 4: We're all unusually obsessed with like things in the news
- 22:08Speaker 4: that you know, most people just do that. Oh wow,
- 22:10Speaker 4: seven million people came into the country.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Okay, what you exactly Now?
- 22:13Speaker 3: The consequences in economically and in so many other ways
- 22:17Speaker 3: just keep unfolding. And obviously it's very, very difficult to
- 22:22Speaker 3: unroll what happened over those four years despite DHS's best efforts.
- 22:27Speaker 3: But those efforts do continue, all right. When we come
- 22:30Speaker 3: back a little bit of an update on Mitch McConnell, Well,
- 22:33Speaker 3: we think anyway, just a moment, Jim, yesterday you and
- 22:40Speaker 3: Craig talked about the mystery of Mitch McConnell. You know,
- 22:44Speaker 3: ambulance came to his house. We think we have the recording.
- 22:47Speaker 3: Cardiac arrests CPR. Obviously a very serious situation. Nobody's seen him.
- 22:52Speaker 3: He's still in the hospital. Some people are reporting that
- 22:55Speaker 3: he's brain dead and being kept alive past August third,
- 22:58Speaker 3: So there's not a special elect shouldn't bridge the gap
- 23:01Speaker 3: between him and the general election in November. But there
- 23:05Speaker 3: are others who are saying no, he's slowly getting better.
- 23:08Speaker 3: His staff has admittedly been incredibly cryptic about this, but
- 23:12Speaker 3: yesterday others in leadership, John Thune, the majority leader, John
- 23:16Speaker 3: Barassa of Wyoming also in the leadership, saying no, we
- 23:19Speaker 3: had conversations with him. Also saying ye had a conversation
- 23:22Speaker 3: with McConnell is Scott Jennings, the radio host, podcast host
- 23:25Speaker 3: and CNN commentator, who made it clear that, at least
- 23:29Speaker 3: based on what he experienced yesterday, Mitch McConnell's is very
- 23:33Speaker 3: much alive.
- 23:33Speaker 6: He called me this morning before I did my radio show.
- 23:37Speaker 6: We talked for about seventeen minutes. He talked a lot
- 23:40Speaker 6: about the situation with Iran, talk a little bit about
- 23:43Speaker 6: Ukraine and what's going on in Europe. I told him
- 23:46Speaker 6: I had been to the Teddy Roosevelt Library. We talked
- 23:48Speaker 6: a little bit about the history of the vice presidency
- 23:50Speaker 6: and how Roosevelt had transformed that in the modern presidency,
- 23:55Speaker 6: little history of the Senate. I mean, it was you know,
- 23:58Speaker 6: it was a wide ranging conversation I talked to often.
- 24:00Speaker 6: I hadn't talked to him since he'd been in I'd
- 24:02Speaker 6: gotten a few text messages from but I hadn't spoken
- 24:04Speaker 6: to him. So it was good to hear his voice.
- 24:06Speaker 6: Voice sounded strong and sounded like he was keeping up
- 24:08Speaker 6: with the news to me.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Did you ask him how he was feeling?
- 24:11Speaker 6: Yeah, he said, you know, he said, was feeling okay.
- 24:15Speaker 6: You know, obviously well enough to call me on the phone,
- 24:17Speaker 6: and obviously well enough to talk to Barrasso and fun. Now, look,
- 24:20Speaker 6: I'm not qualified to discuss any medical issues or give
- 24:23Speaker 6: you any information about that. That's really for him or
- 24:26Speaker 6: his his staff to do. But you know I talked
- 24:29Speaker 6: to him from time to time, and I see him
- 24:31Speaker 6: from time to time, and you know, we had a
- 24:33Speaker 6: conversation today about the things that we normally talk about,
- 24:36Speaker 6: which are news today political stuff.
- 24:38Speaker 4: Did you come away feeling like he's still capable of
- 24:40Speaker 4: serving the people of Kentucky as senator?
- 24:43Speaker 6: I came away feeling that he was staying on top
- 24:45Speaker 6: of the news. Again. I look his his condition and
- 24:49Speaker 6: why he's in the hospital or when he might come out,
- 24:52Speaker 6: or look, that's that's.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Do you know why, and are just saying you're not
- 24:56Speaker 2: a liberty to share.
- 24:56Speaker 3: I do not know why.
- 24:57Speaker 6: I only know frankly what has been reported or what
- 25:01Speaker 6: his office has said.
- 25:02Speaker 3: So, Jim, if he is, you know, on life support,
- 25:05Speaker 3: Scott Jennings' credibility shot. But then so is Fune and Morasso.
- 25:09Speaker 3: So the fact that there's multiple people saying he's capable
- 25:11Speaker 3: of holding a conversation would suggest that the life support
- 25:14Speaker 3: contention is not necessarily the case. However, if you've ever
- 25:17Speaker 3: known anyone who's been lucky enough to survive cardiac arrest,
- 25:20Speaker 3: the recovery from that is very intense. Might not even
- 25:23Speaker 3: make it after weeks or months, but it's still a
- 25:26Speaker 3: very very difficult come back. And so then the question
- 25:29Speaker 3: becomes is he able to serve?
- 25:31Speaker 1: And so Farth.
- 25:32Speaker 3: But a lot has happened since you and Craig talked
- 25:34Speaker 3: about it yesterday. What's your take on the latest?
- 25:35Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, if Scott Jennings says he's talked to him,
- 25:38Speaker 4: I believe that, not just because I you know, I've
- 25:40Speaker 4: been saying to know Scott Jennings, well, but I've chatted
- 25:42Speaker 4: with him a couple of times, and I think lying
- 25:44Speaker 4: about something like this would be psychotic, and also for
- 25:47Speaker 4: him to like, you know, like if Mitch McConnell isn't
- 25:50Speaker 4: a coma and Scott Jennings is making up this story
- 25:53Speaker 4: and fun is making up this story, and then they're
- 25:55Speaker 4: all crazy and they're all you know, so like, I
- 25:57Speaker 4: look this, I'll count this as proof of life. I
- 26:00Speaker 4: do think it's troubling that we're not being told what
- 26:03Speaker 4: ailment has him in the hospital. He's been in the
- 26:05Speaker 4: hospital for more than three weeks now. Mitch McConnell's eighty
- 26:08Speaker 4: four years old, and we saw him freeze up right.
- 26:10Speaker 4: We knew he was having health challenges heading into this.
- 26:13Speaker 4: I think that you are obligated as a public official
- 26:17Speaker 4: to keep the public when you are when you can't
- 26:19Speaker 4: be in your job. If you did not show up
- 26:21Speaker 4: at Radio America for three weeks, people including myself, would
- 26:23Speaker 4: be very, very worried and would want to know what's
- 26:25Speaker 4: going on with this. It was interesting that Jennings said
- 26:27Speaker 4: he did not know why he's in the hospital. That
- 26:29Speaker 4: seems like one of the first things you talk about,
- 26:31Speaker 4: Oh my god, senator, how are you doing what happened.
- 26:33Speaker 4: Maybe he doesn't feel comfortable talking about it, or he
- 26:35Speaker 4: feels like the you know, that should come from the
- 26:37Speaker 4: Senator or his office. But I think the people have
- 26:40Speaker 4: a right to know what happened, because clearly this was
- 26:43Speaker 4: not a minor issue. Clearly, if you are still in
- 26:44Speaker 4: the hospital three to four weeks later, then this is
- 26:47Speaker 4: something significant.
- 26:48Speaker 1: The recovery time could be significant.
- 26:50Speaker 4: And people, you know, he's obviously he's not voting, he's
- 26:52Speaker 4: not able to be in Washington.
- 26:55Speaker 1: How you doing, Mitch, let us know how it's gone,
- 26:57Speaker 1: and like it.
- 26:57Speaker 4: I know that we don't want a Democratic governor to
- 26:59Speaker 4: appoint with the like really in the end, coming right
- 27:01Speaker 4: on the heels of Tom Keen Junior, coming right on
- 27:04Speaker 4: the heels of everybody in the Biden administration saying, oh
- 27:06Speaker 4: Biden's got so much energy, I can't keep up with them.
- 27:09Speaker 4: It just doesn't look good for elderly lawmakers to say, yeah,
- 27:12Speaker 4: we're dealing with a health issue, but we're not going
- 27:13Speaker 4: to tell you what it is, and we don't know
- 27:15Speaker 4: what he's going to be out of the hospital, and
- 27:16Speaker 4: you're just going to have to learn no, no this.
- 27:19Speaker 4: You say, you're a public servant. You really need to
- 27:23Speaker 4: serve the public with updated, accurate information about whatever ailment
- 27:28Speaker 4: you're dealing with. And again, I hope he lives to
- 27:30Speaker 4: be one hundred.
- 27:30Speaker 1: I hope you know. I think very well the guy.
- 27:32Speaker 4: But you really have an obligation to your to your
- 27:34Speaker 4: constituents to reveal stuff, and that's not happening right now.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:37Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how much evidence or testimony
- 27:41Speaker 3: the brain dead camp is going on here, but when
- 27:44Speaker 3: your people don't provide information, that's where a thousand conspiracy
- 27:48Speaker 3: theories bloom. You got to trace it back to the
- 27:50Speaker 3: original source and know they're offer right now. Eventually they'll
- 27:53Speaker 3: be on the summer recess, you know, that would give
- 27:56Speaker 3: him some time to recover, depending on what the issue
- 27:58Speaker 3: is potentially, and that we get them past August third,
- 28:01Speaker 3: which some people think is the big deal here. I
- 28:03Speaker 3: don't know if that's the calculation they're going through or
- 28:05Speaker 3: they just don't want to divulge a lot right now,
- 28:07Speaker 3: but either way, I think there it's incumbent upon them
- 28:10Speaker 3: when you're dealing with the public official to do that,
- 28:12Speaker 3: like you said, so hopefully more news on that soon
- 28:16Speaker 3: and we can put all the rumors to rest one
- 28:17Speaker 3: way or the other. But Jim, you're actually gone tomorrow.
- 28:20Speaker 3: I know it's nothing personal. Then we'll be back together
- 28:23Speaker 3: on Friday, and we'll resume then.
- 28:25Speaker 4: And we should be normal for a while. Listeners for
- 28:27Speaker 4: a while, we'll see life.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Time's up.
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