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The Bolt Report | 21 April · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Jez is the good reward.
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  Speaker 2: To the breaking news the Pope has died. Pope Francis,
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  Speaker 2: leader of the world's one point three billion Catholics, died overnight,
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  Speaker 2: aged eighty eight, after a long illness. His death came
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  Speaker 2: hours after yesterday briefly met American Vice President Jadie Vance,
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  Speaker 2: telling him to be nice refugees, and then addressed the
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  Speaker 2: crowds of Saint Peter's for Easter, just giving a few
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  Speaker 2: words to them and then driving one last time through
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  Speaker 2: the crowds there. The people were so hugely pleased to
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  Speaker 2: see him and stopping for his last ever interview.
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  Speaker 3: Santa.
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  Speaker 4: Gay you end.
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  Speaker 3: Because I like with sabasqua cosi complicata.
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  Speaker 5: Vi there.
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  Speaker 2: This nearly died a few times earlier this year after
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  Speaker 2: getting pneumonia. Left hospital about five weeks ago, and that
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  Speaker 2: ends his reign after twelve years now. Pope Francis, on
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  Speaker 2: the left. He was born in Argentina, was elected pope
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  Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen. It was famously left wing, preaching climate change,
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  Speaker 2: pro refugees or illegal immigrants, pushing for women to be
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  Speaker 2: given more responsibility in the church. It also stacked the
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  Speaker 2: Council of Cardinals, which will vote on this successor maybe
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  Speaker 2: late late next month or even June. He picked eighty
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  Speaker 2: percent of them joining me is the Catholic Archbishop of Sydney,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Fisher. Look, I'm very grateful to see you, Archbishop
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  Speaker 2: of the Pope.
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  Speaker 6: His death your reaction, I think for Anny Catholic we
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  Speaker 6: have to be sad when the Pope dies. It's a
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  Speaker 6: big loss for us. He's been our shepherd now for
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  Speaker 6: a decade. We've got very used to him being a pope,
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  Speaker 6: and he is a symbol of the unity of the
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  Speaker 6: church throughout the world that more than a billion Catholics
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  Speaker 6: that you spoke of. But we're also very grateful that
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  Speaker 6: we had him till the age of eighty eight. We
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  Speaker 6: could have lost him some months ago. That he got
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  Speaker 6: to live through to Easter to give his Easter message
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  Speaker 6: to the world before he died was very special and
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  Speaker 6: I'm glad that we got that little bit extra at
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  Speaker 6: the end.
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  Speaker 2: You guys that said the church has suffered under its
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  Speaker 2: time from scandals over finances, which you did try to
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  Speaker 2: clean up. There's been a loss of donations to the
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  Speaker 2: people Pens Peters Pence Fund from people that don't trust
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  Speaker 2: the church so much. With their money anymore, not the Vatican,
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  Speaker 2: criticism from conservative churchmen, criticism for going soft, and China's
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  Speaker 2: persecution of Christians and control of the church. There, what
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  Speaker 2: shape does he leave the church in?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think that some of those criticisms might might
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  Speaker 6: be fair, some of them would be overstated, but it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't recognize the many good things that he did as well.
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  Speaker 6: And for instance, to box him in the.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I have to cut you off. The Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: is about to speak. I hope to get to you
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  Speaker 2: after this.
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  Speaker 7: Here he is, and faithful around the world give thanks
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  Speaker 7: for the life of their Holy father, Pope Francis, Bishop
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  Speaker 7: of Rome. Today the prayers of more than a billion
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  Speaker 7: people from all nations, in every walk of life go
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  Speaker 7: with Pope Francis to his rest. Born in Argentina in
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  Speaker 7: nineteen thirty six and ordained a priest in nineteen sixty nine,
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  Speaker 7: Pope Francis fellow cardinals elected him Pope in twenty and thirteen.
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  Speaker 7: His was a papacier first, the first pope to hail
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  Speaker 7: from the Americas, the first Jesuit pope, and the first
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  Speaker 7: to take the name of that great champion of the poor,
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  Speaker 7: Saint Francis of ASSISI. Pope Francis compassion embraced all humanity,
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  Speaker 7: and today he will be mourned by Catholics and non
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  Speaker 7: Catholics alike. He urged us to remember all we hold
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  Speaker 7: in common, and he asks the world to hear the
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  Speaker 7: cry of the Earth, our common home. He invited world
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  Speaker 7: leaders to join him and to quote him. Emerged from
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  Speaker 7: the day night of wars and environmental devastation in order
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  Speaker 7: to turn our common future into the dawn of a
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  Speaker 7: new and radiant day. He was very much a modernist.
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  Speaker 7: His message that he sent out echoed in our region.
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  Speaker 7: During his historic visit to Indonesia, Papu, New Guinea, Singapore
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  Speaker 7: and tim or Less state. The first Pope from the
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  Speaker 7: Southern Hemisphere was close to the people of Australia. For
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  Speaker 7: Australian Catholics, he was a devoted champion and loving father.
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  Speaker 7: Pope Francis lived out his faith and vocation in word
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  Speaker 7: and deed. He was truly inspirational in his modest way
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  Speaker 7: of life, and at his weekly audiences he demonstrated his
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  Speaker 7: commitment to peace, equality and inclusion. Pope Francis's love for
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  Speaker 7: humanity was powerful and profound. The memory and example of
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  Speaker 7: his compassion will long endure. As we mourn his death,
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  Speaker 7: we celebrate the gift of his life and presence among us,
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  Speaker 7: and we hold onto the resonant truth of Pope Francis's
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  Speaker 7: final Easter homily. The light quietly shines forth, even though
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  Speaker 7: we are in darkness. The promise of new life and
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  Speaker 7: a world finally set free awaits us, and a new beginning,
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  Speaker 7: however impossible it might seem, can take us by surprise.
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  Speaker 7: For Christ has triumphed over death. May God welcome Pope
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  Speaker 7: Francis to eternal life. I have vast the Department of
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  Speaker 7: Prime Minister and Cabinet that all flags from the commual
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  Speaker 7: Government of Australia will fly at half masted tomorrow as
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  Speaker 7: a sign of respect and my sincere condolences to everyone
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  Speaker 7: who for tonight it will be a very difficult evening.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Well. I appreciate the Prime Minister's words that attribute to
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  Speaker 2: the Pope. I think the political reaction in the pasts
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  Speaker 2: through Catholics has not been very friendly. This marks a
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  Speaker 2: very welcome turn. I do note that the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: quoted the Pope, particularly on global warming, which was not
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  Speaker 2: an expert in and I do know that Archbishop or
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  Speaker 2: cardinal Cardinal George pell which was then is third third
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  Speaker 2: most senior person, and the Vatican was critical as a
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  Speaker 2: conservative that the Pope was preaching global warming. Is not
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  Speaker 2: an expert in that. It's not theological. The there you go.
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  Speaker 2: That is the pope that a lot of the left
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  Speaker 2: did like. And given that he appointed eighty percent of
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  Speaker 2: the people, the cardinals that are going to vote for him,
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  Speaker 2: you'll get probably another pope like it. I notice he
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  Speaker 2: did not appoint Archbishop Anthony Fisher, who is the most
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  Speaker 2: senior cleric here as a cardinal, and that might be
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  Speaker 2: a political move. But to more secular politics. We'll have
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  Speaker 2: more on the pope later, But to more secular politics.
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  Speaker 2: How sick is the Labour's campaign of lies and how
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  Speaker 2: sick is its cover up today of a serious security threat.
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  Speaker 2: Here is this lying in a nutshell. The Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: had just said more about defending vegamite from Canada than
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  Speaker 2: defending Australia from Russia. It's a fact. Yesterday the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister of Bosa, he just got Canada, so let a
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  Speaker 2: cafe there sell vegimite despite it having too much vitamin B.
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  Speaker 7: The Australian cafe owner Lighton Walters can once again have
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  Speaker 7: Vegimite back in his cafe.
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  Speaker 2: But today Anthony Albanesi pretended we didn't face a much
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  Speaker 2: bigger danger than a Canadian ban On Vegimite pretended again
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing to these fears that Russia is building military
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  Speaker 2: tis with Indonesia, including joint naval exercises, including a joint
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  Speaker 2: satellite launch base, with Russia's ambassador in Indonesia even telling
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  Speaker 2: Australia how to bud out that we were the real reason,
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  Speaker 2: We were the real menace in the region and we
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  Speaker 2: had no cards to play. Even worse, Albanzi today pretended
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  Speaker 2: it was not true that Russia had indeed asked for
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  Speaker 2: a base in Indonesia for its air force, and he
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  Speaker 2: even covered up that fact by refusing to allow the
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  Speaker 2: Liberals together briefing from our security agencies on it.
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  Speaker 7: They raise issues about briefings and waiting for them to
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  Speaker 7: ask for a briefing on who faked the moon landing.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday, Albaneze has attacked Dog Minister Murray Watt even lied
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  Speaker 2: here on Sky News claiming flat out that russiash they
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  Speaker 2: hadn't asked in Indonesia for a base for its warplanes.
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  Speaker 8: They might as well ask for a briefing on the
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  Speaker 8: Lockness monster. This is something that doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 2: Are you saying there was anquest?
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  Speaker 8: There is no proposal from Russia to have a base
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  Speaker 8: anywhere in Indonesia in the way that Peter Dutton and
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  Speaker 8: his colleagues have been claiming over the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Now what today didn't repeat that Lae when asked in
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  Speaker 2: ALBANIZI dodge questions about that lay even pretended that simply
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  Speaker 2: to ask a question about the Russian request that was unpatriotic,
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  Speaker 2: was pro Russian.
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  Speaker 9: LOSCO made an approach to Indonesia and do you now
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  Speaker 9: can see that Russia wants a bigger presence in our region.
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  Speaker 7: I have no wish to help promote Russia's propaganda messages
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  Speaker 7: and I'd suggest that that's not in Australia's national interest either.
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  Speaker 2: This is the absolute symbol of Labour's laying campaign. Albanesi
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  Speaker 2: does not want the campaign to have talk about real
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  Speaker 2: threats to our national security, like the Russian move into
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  Speaker 2: our area, or like the Chinese warships sailing around Australia
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  Speaker 2: firing their weapons to intimidate us in February, or like
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  Speaker 2: the government stripping our army of so much weaponry. The
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  Speaker 2: former chief of Army, Peter Lay complained last week that
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing left for bloody guns. And we didn't even
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  Speaker 2: have the ships, by the way, to shadow those Chinese
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  Speaker 2: ones that went right around our own continent. Albanese doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about any of that, about how it
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  Speaker 2: has been weak on defense, has crawled to China, is
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  Speaker 2: now crawling to Russia covering up for it. No, so
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about saving Vegemite instead, And so many journalists go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's much more fun, much prettier pictures. Let's go with that,
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  Speaker 2: And that news about the vegamar ran big on the weekend,
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  Speaker 2: showing just how labor is winning this election. I've never
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  Speaker 2: seen a campaign built almost entirely on lies and on
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  Speaker 2: spin on labour saving us from totally imaginary threats while
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  Speaker 2: totally ignoring real ones. I mean, like, you know, magic
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  Speaker 2: threats like labours lie that the Liberals plan nuclear reactors,
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  Speaker 2: their plan for nuclear reactors will cost six hundred billion dollars,
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  Speaker 2: totally fake figure, totally fake, and then the labor lie
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  Speaker 2: associated with that, that Labour will save Medicare from liberal
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  Speaker 2: cuts that don't exist, but which it claims the Liberals
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  Speaker 2: need to pay for these fake six hundred billion dollar reactors.
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  Speaker 7: Petty Dutton has a six hundred billion dollar nuclear plan
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  Speaker 7: that will be paid for by to education and health.
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  Speaker 2: And there we are. We have in this campaign Labor
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  Speaker 2: promising to save you from fake threats like supermarket price
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  Speaker 2: gouging but doesn't exist, but not even admitting to this
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  Speaker 2: very real one that China's biggest ally, Russia, is getting
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  Speaker 2: close to Indonesia and is beefing up its military presence there.
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  Speaker 2: And now the premise are telling the Liberals, We're not
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  Speaker 2: even going to let you get a briefing to learn
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  Speaker 2: what those threats really are.
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  Speaker 1: The prim miers they're.
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  Speaker 2: Covering up, not just stopping the Liberals from learning the
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  Speaker 2: truth in a briefing, but stopping you from hearing it
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  Speaker 2: until it's too late.
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  Speaker 4: We have asked for a briefing, it's still not forthcoming
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  Speaker 4: from the government.
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  Speaker 1: So what do they have to hide?
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  Speaker 2: Now? Remember this is a Labour party which won the
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  Speaker 2: last election on a giant lie, the lie that its
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  Speaker 2: green schemes will cut your power bills by two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and seventy five dollars for the lies. This time they're
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  Speaker 2: even bigger, They're even more dangerous and even more shameless.
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  Speaker 2: If you reward this campaign of lies by returning this
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  Speaker 2: party of liars, what exactly do you expect to wake
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  Speaker 2: up to the day after the election? Joining me is
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  Speaker 2: the coalitionon's Home Affairs spokesman and now campaign spokesman as well,
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  Speaker 2: James Patterson. Senator Patterson, Great to see you again. You
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  Speaker 2: have asked for a briefing on the Russian request for
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  Speaker 2: an air base in Indonesia. What right do you have
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  Speaker 2: to one of them? And what reason is the government
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  Speaker 2: given for saying no?
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  Speaker 5: Andrew those clips that you plied from the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 5: and Murray Watt in your editorial show we have a
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  Speaker 5: deeply unseerious prime minister comparing a proposal for a Russian
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  Speaker 5: Air Force base in our region to a fake moon
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  Speaker 5: landing and the Locknest Monster. At the most serious time
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  Speaker 5: for our country since the end of World War II.
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  Speaker 5: We've asked for a beef briefing because it's the normal
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  Speaker 5: thing that oppositions are provided in circumstances like these. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: in their last election campaign we provided a briefing to
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  Speaker 5: the then opposition about a Chinese navy vessel off the
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  Speaker 5: West Australian coast. In a lead up to the last election,
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  Speaker 5: we provided the opposition with a briefing about the Sullivan
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  Speaker 5: Islands agreement. It is utterly routine, even setting aside the
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  Speaker 5: caretaker conventions, for oppositions to be briefed on this matter.
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  Speaker 5: But given Murray Watt's missteps on this, I wonder whether
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  Speaker 5: he has even been briefed about this or what basis
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  Speaker 5: he had for making his statement that not even a
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  Speaker 5: proposal had been made from the Russian government, which is
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  Speaker 5: contradicted by the James Military publication and seemingly by public
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  Speaker 5: comments made by the Russian ambassador. In serious times, we
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  Speaker 5: need serious leaders and we don't have it right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's I forget that. Before the spin came in,
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  Speaker 2: the defensemans of Richard Miles implied that the request had
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  Speaker 2: been made by Russia to Indonesia. He said, will the
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  Speaker 2: request been denied? So that was before the spin came in.
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  Speaker 2: There was a request. I think it's pretty obvious, and
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  Speaker 2: the government's laying and won't let other people know about it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just disgraceful, but listen just quickly. Crime
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  Speaker 2: crime is basically a state issue. But the poll show,
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  Speaker 2: of course, as you know, that voters have it around
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  Speaker 2: a third on their list of concerns now ahead of
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  Speaker 2: global warming on the poles I've seen and no wonder
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  Speaker 2: of course. In Victoria, for instance, every day on average,
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  Speaker 2: twenty homes are now broken into, often with the residents inside.
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  Speaker 2: That's a crime that was once unheard of. Today the
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  Speaker 2: Herald Sonny Melbourne reports that gains of youths are even
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  Speaker 2: stelling cigarettes, stealing cigarettes for crime gains that pay them
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  Speaker 2: five dollars a packet to well they burst. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they're robbing service stations about five a week.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you've just.
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  Speaker 2: Announced a seven hundred and fifty dollars million a seven
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollar crime plan. Why have you
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  Speaker 2: done that and what is it?
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  Speaker 5: Andrew the Prime Minister might think that crime is not
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  Speaker 5: his job, but Peter Dutton thinks it is the federal
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  Speaker 5: government's responsibility and we have a critical role to play.
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  Speaker 5: Many of the crime networks operating in our country are
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  Speaker 5: oper creating not just across state borders, but also internationally,
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  Speaker 5: and the federal government has a critical role to play
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  Speaker 5: in disrupting them to protect Australians. We have a critical
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  Speaker 5: role at the border which will be boosting, particularly to
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  Speaker 5: have inspections of incoming mail where a lot of drugs
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  Speaker 5: and other contraband, including date rape drugs, are coming into
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  Speaker 5: our country.
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  Speaker 1: We have a role.
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  Speaker 5: Busting those criminal networks and BIKI gangs who operate across
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  Speaker 5: state borders and will fund the Federal Police to stand
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  Speaker 5: up a new strike team to tackle that. We've also
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  Speaker 5: got a role protecting children all around this country by
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  Speaker 5: introducing a sex offender Disclosure scheme which allows parents and
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  Speaker 5: guardians to request information of police about people who have
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  Speaker 5: access to their children and whether or not they're on
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  Speaker 5: their sex offenders list. And shockingly today the Prime Minister
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: downplayed the merit of that idea and said he wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: be implementing that idea and murray what again was out
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  Speaker 5: there saying that it was a cynical exercise. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think the protection of children is cynical. I think it's
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  Speaker 5: really important and I'm disappointed the Prime Minister couldn't rise
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  Speaker 5: to the moment and back this in a bipartisan way.
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  Speaker 2: And of course promising post them bose laws which would
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  Speaker 2: make it illegal to post social media content glamorizing involvement
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  Speaker 2: in criminal activity. I actually thought that social media outlets
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  Speaker 2: were already cracking down on that.
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  Speaker 5: It's a real problem, Mander. In fact, today we met
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  Speaker 5: with some social workers in the seat of Dunklee who
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  Speaker 5: are working to disrupt these crime gangs and take young
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  Speaker 5: people off these bad pathways and put them on better pathways.
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  Speaker 5: And they said a significant element of the motivation of
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  Speaker 5: young people is to gain notoriety among their friends, and
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: one of the ways they do that is by stealing cars,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: breaking into people's homes, filming themselves and then posting it
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  Speaker 5: on social media platforms including Instagram and TikTok. The platforms
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  Speaker 5: are not doing enough to deal with this problem, and
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  Speaker 5: the people who are doing this don't.
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  Speaker 1: Fear the consequences of it.
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  Speaker 5: That's why bring in new laws to criminalize posting and boasting,
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  Speaker 5: so that people do fear the consequences of this behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Senator Patterson, thank you so much for your time now
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  Speaker 2: after the break more than the election, because we have
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  Speaker 2: got a scandal.
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  Speaker 1: On our hands.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: These two of the preference deals by Clive Palmer and
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: by Labor are disgraceful, Michael Kroger and Stephen Conroy. After this,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the latest News poll today again shows the Coalition and
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: a losing position forty eight percent to the Labours fifty two.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: That's after preferences. When you actually look at just primary votes,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a third of voters actually want neither party and that
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  Speaker 2: makes the preferences you know, your second, third, fourth choices
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: on your vote out to vote thing very important. And
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: here there are two stories, two scandals. First, Clive Palmer.
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  Speaker 2: He poses this man a right wing warrior, anti the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: global warming scare and all that kind. But his trumpet
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: of Patriots Party is meanwhile giving his preferences in many
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: seats through teeal independence, climate hysterics, ahead of the Liberals,
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  Speaker 2: including even ahead of Opposition leader Peter Dutton. In his
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: seat of Dixon, his preference by Clive Palmer behind even
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the Greens, and it seats like Griffith Palmer straight out
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  Speaker 2: gives his second preference to Labor. I mean, Clive Palmer
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: is really a totally fake conservative and that's why he's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: candidate in the seat of Flinders where I live. Jason
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Smarts now dropped out saying don't vote for me please,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: don't vote for me. Clive Palmer broke his word to
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: me to put the Greens and the Teals last, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: he says, I'm going to put my country first, so
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: don't vote for me. But even worse, his labor It
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: claims the Greens are economically disastrous, which is true, and
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: have encouraged jew hatred in this country, which is absolutely
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: true and shameful. Yet even Albanese is Jewish. Attorney General
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Mark Dreyfus gives the Greens his second preferences, his second
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  Speaker 2: preferences as a Jew, to a party whose deputy leader
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: refuses to codemn Hamas murderers of Jews. The question was
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: we have dismantled the Palestinians need to decide where they want.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: To go should it be dismantled.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Hamas is an organization that exists in the region. Mark Dreyfus,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: have you no shame giving your second preference to a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: party as deputy leader is that woman you just saw?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: And it's the same with the prime minister his second
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: preferences second preference also goes to the Greens, the party
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: appealing to Jew haters with a giant election signed like
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: this one in Melbourne Free Palestine. This is depraved. This
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: is Labor putting party over country and power over morality.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Joined mister the panel, Michael Kroger, former Victorian Liberal President.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Steve Conry, former Laby senator and cabinet is the Michael.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: This is frankly a moral.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Well er.
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: Bob Hawk would be spinning in his grave tonight when
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: he saw that. I mean Mark Dreyfus, I mean, I've
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: seen some I've seen some gobs making things in my
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: decades observing politics. I don't think I've ever seen anything
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: as obnoxious and disgusting as Mark Dreyfus giving the second
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: preferences to the Greens. I mean, you know, we've been
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: talking on this show for months andraw about Albanezy doing
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: a preference deal with the Greens, and he batted out
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: a way. But that's exactly what's happened. It's sick, it's disgusting.
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: It certainly won't help Josh Burns, the Labor member in McNamara,
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: because other Jewish photos who might have been inclined to
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: be for him will now think this is beyond the
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: pal It's so sick and disgusting that not only they
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: do a deal with the Greens, but Mark Drafers puts
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: the number two. You know, these people have no shame
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: at all. It's a disgrace. And this is not the
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: Labor Party of Hawk and Keating, of Crean and Beasley.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: All right, this is an extreme mob Wong Burke.
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: You know, Jason Claire Alban Easy, the hard left of
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: taken over. And we can see it again in what's
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: happening with these preferences?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Andrew Steve Conry, I know you're still involved in labor politics,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and no you don't like coming on the show to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: bag labor, but surely this has got to cross alone
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: for you as well.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Look, I think Josh Burns is the stream an open ticket,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: is not recommending any preferences whatsoever. I think that's a
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: very courageous thing for him to do. In terms of
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: why that's important is because Josh unfortunately or may end
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: up finishing third, which means his preferences would actually be
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: relevant and distributed and probably decide the winner. Where this uh,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: you know, Michael blowing a gas kert andfulminating about it
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: is Michael well known how preference system works. Mark Drayfus
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: is not going to finish third, So no, preferences from
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Mark and Drapers will ever go to the Greens because
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: he won't be eliminated.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: So totally.
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: It's okay, is it for Mark Drapers?
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Totally different, totally different set of circumstances. Josh, in good conscience,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: could not possibly help elect a Green to his seat.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Mark Drapers, understand.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Your argument with Stephen? Tell me if I understand your
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: argument directly? So Josh Burns also Jewish. He's making courageous call,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: a decisive call, one that can influence the outcome in
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: his seat by not preferencing the Greens. I think you
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: should preference liberals over Greens. But that's another thing. But
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Mark Drayfus, you say has got nothing to lose, He's
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: going to win it anyway. He could have made it
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: very cheap, no sweat decision and put the Greens last,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: nothing to lose. He put him second. I mean that
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: is gutless.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: One characterization you got wrong there. I didn't say it
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: was going to win.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I said he.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't be eliminated, which means it comes down to got
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: two candidates, Labor and liberally. So Mike Grafs preferences will
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: never be distributed either a liberal, or when Isaacs or
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Mike drefus or when Isaacs that is a fundamental.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: So inconsequential, then why why I put them second?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: That's my point.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: He had nothing to lose. He could have made a
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: statement and he didn't have the guts and integrity to
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: do that, to put a party that's appealing to Jew
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: haters and won't defend or won't condemn Hamas, which if
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Mark Dreyfus was wandering through in Israel at the wrong time,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: they would shoot him in an instant. And he doesn't
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: even have their guts. I mean, it's just to me.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I've seen things in politics that are pretty immoral. This
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: is about the worst it gets. Let's switch topic though. Meanwhile,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: in Western Sydney, Michael, there is a campaign by Muslims
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: to stop other Muslims voting, saying that it goes against
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: this alarm have.
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: Listen, So my Dee brothers and sisters, keep your eye
• 26:37
  Speaker 11: out for the hashtag stay moles them, don't vote now.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: That guy is a Sydney preacher, son of Lebanese parents,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: was in the past issued what seems to me threats
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: against those criticizing his Islam.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Here is again, if.
• 26:50
  Speaker 12: You attack a law, if you attack our prophet, our religion,
• 26:54
  Speaker 12: and our fellow brothers and sisters, and if you attack
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: our lands, then you are going to be mets with
• 26:59
  Speaker 12: men who love death more than you love life.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Now, to me, this suggests the danger the lack of
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: wisdom in bringing in many Muslims. If a minority, and
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: it is a minority, but still includes preachers who say
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: that even democracy, our democracy, is an insult to their faith.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: What do you make of this?
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: So he says that Western laws are conflicting with Islam,
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: and therefore they're not to be followed. I don't think
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: that's the way it's meant to work in Australia. If
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: you don't share those values of democracy coming first, then
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: he might not be in the right place.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: But I'm not sure it's legal.
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: By the way, Andrew to be encouraging people not to vote,
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: recommending to people not to vote, trying to get people
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: not to vote. I mean, voting is compulsory under the
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: Commonwealth law, so he may be committing an offense.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: To do that. That's a technical point.
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: But to say to people you shouldn't vote because you're
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: interfering with Islam, we don't have Sharia law in this country, Andrew.
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: So that's an argument he would make if there was
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: a sharer law country. We don't have that, Thank goodness.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you say that, but so what he's that's
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: not going to change his mind at all.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: That's correct. You're absolutely right, Stephen.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Well look im in congratulations to your show, Andrew for
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: continuing to expose this fanatic interpretation of islamis isn't a
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: broad Islam in the vast majority of Uslims in this country.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: But this sort of fanaticism, this sort of the hardest
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: where we demand everybody bows down to the their version
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: of our and their interpretation of the Qur'an is not
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: acceptable and made to be exposed as you were doing
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: right now, and they need to be rejected. And I
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: believe they'll be rejected at the polls next week, but
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: there is you know, it's important that they have the
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: pressure be applied to them. I think Michael's points a
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: good one. Anybody else who walks around telling anybody not
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: to vote and discouraging them to vote usually gets at
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: least an inquiry from the Electoral Commission, and I think
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: that video should be referred to them, referred to the
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Electoral Commission. But on the fundamental issue, the candidates who
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: are running in this election who advocate the sort of
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: radical interpretation of Islam need to be exposed nationally consistently
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: and every time they do it. So congratulations to you
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: on the show for doing that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Michael Steve made a point and you did too. It's illegal,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: So these says it should be referred to authorities. I
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: bet you you won't be two to your justice. But
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: look correct me if I'm wrong. Albert Layer, didn't he
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: once get prosecuted for something like that, telling people not
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to vote or something that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Do you expect the law to be I think so.
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: I'm sure someone a couple of elections ago, was it?
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: Langa sign was prosecuted a couple of elections again?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: A couple of elections showing our rage?
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Was it? Yeah? We're getting old? Yeah?
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: No, I think it's illegal in this country to tell
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: people to breach the Commonwealth law. So let's hope is
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: referred to the Australian Electoral Commission. Let's hope this Blake
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: is prosecuted, and let's hope his form of extremism, which
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: is incompatible with how how our democracy works. You know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: is is dealt with by the authorities. I mean, this
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: is not the way this country.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Michael Kroger, Stephen Conroy, We'll have I'll take some bets
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: from you in the ad break about what are the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: chances that the Australian Electoral Commission will have the guts
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to do that we shall see. Thank you very much
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: to you. After the break, let's talk. The hope has died.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: That is a tragedy. But I am going to show
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: you something that really is disgraceful. How the ABC celebrated
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Easter Sunday after this ad my language put the years
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: of their hands over the years of the kids. But
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: what the ABC broadcasts yesterday is the Sunday was, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I'm speaking bluntly taking the piss, mocking Christianity at Easter,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: treating taxpayers as fools. And it should shame this man.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: ABC chairman Kim Williams, who I know takes matters of
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: faith very seriously. Now, Easter, there is the holiest time
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: for Christians, who are nearly half our population, marks the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: death and resurrection of Christ. So on Easter Sunday, what
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: did the ABC's religious program Compass put to air? Was
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: it something explaining Australia's most popular faith, our Foundation Faith
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: giving you some insights, of course, not, of course not,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: it's the ABC. It instead promoted a pagan faith. What
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: it claims is a new religion sweeping urban Sydney, as
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: if a secular religion which I thought was an oxymoron
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: called Creation, which the ABC describes as a queer science
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: fiction climate change religion. Now, if that sounds ludicrous, that's
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: because it is.
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: A brand new religion. Creation has been performed many times already.
• 32:35
  Speaker 13: It continues to evolve, and its latest performance was here
• 32:38
  Speaker 13: at the Art Gallery of New South Wales, where participants
• 32:42
  Speaker 13: were invited, as always to partake, but also to believe.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Joining me is the country's top foreign affairs writer, Greg
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Sheridan the Strand, but is also author of terrific books
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: on Christianity, which I've talked about before on this show.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: God is Good for You. That's a good one. This
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: was a particularly good one Christians, the urgent case for
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Jesus in our world. Greg, If I said this was
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: a pagan religion. If something so clearly absurd can be
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: called a religion, that's because that's what it's creators admit.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Themselves here it is.
• 33:38
  Speaker 14: Yeah, Andrew, it's very good to be with you. Yeah,
• 33:42
  Speaker 14: that was a silly bit of nonsense from the ABC.
• 33:45
  Speaker 14: And in a sense that silliness is underlined by the
• 33:48
  Speaker 14: gravity of the occasion today, where we are thinking about
• 33:56
  Speaker 14: the passing of a pope who will be regarded as
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: very nevigant figure in the history of the world and
• 34:04
  Speaker 14: the history of Christendom and the history of the Catholic Church.
• 34:08
  Speaker 14: You know, the first, the first non European in a
• 34:11
  Speaker 14: thousand years to be pope, the first Latin American, the
• 34:14
  Speaker 14: first Jesuit, a very big change in style from his
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: two predecessors. I believe a good man of God, even
• 34:23
  Speaker 14: though he certainly of polarizing pope, And you know, I
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: certainly hope the ABC and everyone else, you know, treats
• 34:30
  Speaker 14: this moment with the seriousness that it deserves.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: But here's your point. For all, I didn't like the
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Pope's politics. He took religion seriously, very seriously. The Prime
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: ministers took it seriously. But the contrast with what the ABC.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: ABC didn't know the Pope was going to die. But
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the difference between this seriousness and this rubbish that the
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: ABC puts on I want to play you grab you know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: they say it's witchcraft. In fact, they put this on
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: on is the Sunday. Have a look at this.
• 35:06
  Speaker 14: It's glamorous, it's magic, it's witchcraft.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: That's what they put on a Easter Sunday. Can you
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: explain why?
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: No?
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: No, Explaining the ABC is beyond me. I agree with
• 35:21
  Speaker 14: you that, like you, I didn't really agree with the
• 35:24
  Speaker 14: Pope's politics, but I think he not only took religion seriously,
• 35:30
  Speaker 14: but he was a dedicated man of God. And I
• 35:34
  Speaker 14: think in a sense, it's no bad thing that he
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: injected his political, you know, emphasis into his public leadership,
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: because popes are very clear that they don't have any
• 35:49
  Speaker 14: religious authority when they're talking about politics. And if you
• 35:51
  Speaker 14: actually read the Pope's statements about economics and climate change
• 35:55
  Speaker 14: and so, and I often disagreed with him, but there
• 35:57
  Speaker 14: was always an element in them that said, by the way,
• 36:00
  Speaker 14: I have no religious authority in these matters. This is
• 36:03
  Speaker 14: what I believe, But I have no religious authority in
• 36:07
  Speaker 14: the religious matters. The Pope really was a kind of
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: closet conservative, you know, I mean the real liberals who
• 36:14
  Speaker 14: wanted there to be women priests by now and a
• 36:17
  Speaker 14: different doctrine on abortion and all the rest of it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 14: They'd be tremendously disappointed by Francis Ray, and it would
• 36:24
  Speaker 14: be wrong to cast him as a theological revolutionary. He
• 36:28
  Speaker 14: didn't actually change any substantial doctrine, although sometimes he talked
• 36:33
  Speaker 14: as though he wanted to change. But on the positive side,
• 36:37
  Speaker 14: he certainly lived out his vow of poverty. He reached
• 36:41
  Speaker 14: out to people on the margins, and he was he
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: was stylistically different. And you know some of the things
• 36:49
  Speaker 14: that he did. I think the next pope will want
• 36:52
  Speaker 14: to continue in some of the things he might want
• 36:54
  Speaker 14: to change.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: But since he hand picked eighty per of the cardinals
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: will vote and make sure, I think there's some continuity
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: there which will might upset conservatives to spote. Would you say,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: because I'll say this one other thing he got very wrong,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: and it's again not religion in strict sense, but his
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: dealings with China, where he has let China in effect
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: pick the bishops and etc. Of the Catholic Church in
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: China in a secret deal that I think sells out
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of Chinese Catholics.
• 37:33
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'd agree with you, Andrew. I was critical of
• 37:35
  Speaker 14: that deal. But on the other hand, it's not actually
• 37:38
  Speaker 14: unprecedented that authoritarian regimes sometimes have some influence over the
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: choice of bishops. You know, the greatest pope in the
• 37:45
  Speaker 14: last thousand years, Pope John Paul the Second, was the
• 37:49
  Speaker 14: church's fifth or sixth or seventh choice to be archbishop,
• 37:53
  Speaker 14: and the Communists refused. The Polish Communists refused to accept
• 37:56
  Speaker 14: all the earlier choices, and they thought, oh, well, this
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: guy writes plays and poetries and so on, he won't
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: give us any trouble.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: And look what happened.
• 38:03
  Speaker 14: But just one word too, on the fact that the
• 38:06
  Speaker 14: pope chose eighty percent of his of the cardinals who
• 38:09
  Speaker 14: will choose the next pope, all of the cardinals who
• 38:12
  Speaker 14: chose Francis were chosen by Benedict and John Paul. Cardinals
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: are like democratic electorates everywhere, they don't do what you
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: tell them. The other thing is Francis appointed exclusively liberals
• 38:26
  Speaker 14: from places like North America and Europe, but he also
• 38:30
  Speaker 14: appointed the majority of people from the fringes of the Church,
• 38:34
  Speaker 14: from Mongolia, where there are fewer Catholics than you'd get
• 38:37
  Speaker 14: at Sunday Mass, and Saint Mary's Cathedral in Sydney, from
• 38:40
  Speaker 14: East Team or from Tonga, from all kinds of places,
• 38:43
  Speaker 14: the Ukrainian bishop in Australia. Now, these guys generally are
• 38:48
  Speaker 14: not well known in church controversies. They're not exactly known
• 38:52
  Speaker 14: as liberals or conservatives. But the experience overwhelmingly is that
• 38:58
  Speaker 14: bishops and leaders in the global South are much more
• 39:02
  Speaker 14: theologically orthodox and conservative than bishops and leaders in Paris
• 39:08
  Speaker 14: or New York or San Francisco. And you know, we
• 39:12
  Speaker 14: could get an African pope, which I think would be
• 39:14
  Speaker 14: a wonderful thing. It'd be a great thing if the Church,
• 39:17
  Speaker 14: the Universal Holy Catholic Roman Church, chose a leader who
• 39:22
  Speaker 14: bore no resemblance to the leaders they've had for the
• 39:25
  Speaker 14: last thousand years. And if they choose an African cardinal,
• 39:30
  Speaker 14: they're likely to get theologically a very conservative and spiritual person. Now,
• 39:37
  Speaker 14: they might choose anybody. You know, I'm not predicting they
• 39:40
  Speaker 14: choose an African, but I think this is a completely
• 39:43
  Speaker 14: unpredictable conclave we could get. We could get any result
• 39:47
  Speaker 14: out of this. I don't think we're going to get
• 39:49
  Speaker 14: a reincarnation of Francis.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: That is a very very good point, and of course,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: the church is booming in Africa and in South America,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: even if it seems to be dying in Europe. So boy,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: this is I should have bored people. Go and see Conclave.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I don't say it's a great movie. The Left is good,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the Conservatives are bad, but they do point. Oh I
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: shouldn't give that away. It might confirm. Let me just
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: say this what Greg has just said. Greg, always great
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to talk to you. Greg Sheridan, thank you so much
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: for your time. Well, after the break, I've got to
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: show you talking about the ABC. Some outrageous ABC bias
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: and I think the ABC deserves a liberal shadow minister
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: and apology after this. I mentioned earlier in the show
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: that the candidate, Clive Palmer's candidate in Flinders was quitting
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the party, saying don't vote for them because mahar to
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: vote cards are putting the teals first, my first preference
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: when I was promised by Clive that they'd be put last. Well,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: apparently Clive Parmers Trumpet a Patriots Party is now telling him, oh,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: they were sabotage. You're how to vote cards with sabotage,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: and they're going to be reprinted and they'll be reprinted
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: to in a couple of other seats in Victoria where
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the same thing happened. It was sabotage. I mean, seriously,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Clive Palmer, do you really expect people to believe that nonsense?
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Sabotage by whom I'd like to know that I mentioned earlier.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: We'll have Joseph's got on tomorrow. I think I mentioned
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: earlier the ABC's outrageous bias. Give you another example, a
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: political one and some forgivable. The ABC spias in this
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: election is yet again obvious. And this is the price
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: of liberals pay for not reforming or privatizing the ABC
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: whenever it's in power. But last Thursday, ABC hosts Sarah
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: went way over the line went viral. In fact, the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: ABC was primo voting it on Facebook, on Instagram, on YouTube,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: was promoting this nasty crack at the coalition's housing spokesman
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Michael Suka during his debate with Labours Clara and Neil and.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone is listening to me, ask this question, how many
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  Speaker 3: social and affordable houses will you build?
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  Speaker 15: Well, we will fund social and for right.
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  Speaker 13: That's it.
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  Speaker 9: You're not getting an answer.
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  Speaker 3: You'll get an answer.
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  Speaker 9: Out of me. We are building fifty five thousand social
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  Speaker 9: and affordable homes over five years, twenty eight thousand, well,
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  Speaker 9: twenty eight thousand of those home Resmarchael, what would.
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  Speaker 3: Your mother say hearing you interrupt her?
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  Speaker 15: Just I've been interrupted the entire time.
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  Speaker 9: St Just please, it's okay. I'm unflappable.
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  Speaker 2: You might have thought from that clip, as many did
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  Speaker 2: on X, that Sukka must have been carrying on really
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  Speaker 2: rudely to get that smack. In fact, the opposite is true.
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  Speaker 2: I singled out collected three minutes of him of Sukka
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  Speaker 2: being interrupted. I'm going to show you just one so
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  Speaker 2: you can decide who was doing the interrupting, because what
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  Speaker 2: I looked saw there look to me like an ABC
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  Speaker 2: host Tan teaming with a labor person to stop the
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  Speaker 2: liberal from saying anything without being heckled, insulted, and interrupted.
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  Speaker 2: Like I say, these are just some of the examples
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  Speaker 2: from the very first point the super was trying to make.
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  Speaker 2: They'll take a minute, but you need to see what
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  Speaker 2: a hypocrite and like pro labour shill Sarah Ferguson really is.
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  Speaker 1: Although significantly higher, that's.
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  Speaker 15: You're thirty thousand short of what the cold That's not.
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  Speaker 9: Right Michael, I'm sorry, I think I think that. I
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  Speaker 9: think the liberals have gone.
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  Speaker 3: Stopped just one second. Labor have committed one point two
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  Speaker 3: many so how many are you going to build?
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  Speaker 15: Well, Labor are not going to be all one point two,
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  Speaker 15: that's the point. Labor are delivering fewer homes than the
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  Speaker 15: former government. In fact, under Claire's watch, we're delivering fewer
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  Speaker 15: homes that we've had.
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  Speaker 9: For well over a Well, that's absolutely untrue.
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  Speaker 15: And they get to deliver a single hope, Well, that's
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  Speaker 15: not true.
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  Speaker 3: Let's hold.
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  Speaker 9: Onto the seven report. Just make it up.
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  Speaker 3: You can't come on, let me handle it.
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  Speaker 4: Let me hand.
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  Speaker 9: The goal of the liberals to come onto the showing arm.
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  Speaker 3: To stop talking, or I'm going to move on to
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  Speaker 3: the next topic.
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  Speaker 15: There are reports in the a FR that the fund
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  Speaker 15: is in trouble because of the huge drops we've seen
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  Speaker 15: inequities over recent days.
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  Speaker 3: So let's let's not let's not get into the architecture.
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  Speaker 2: I have can show you another two minutes of that.
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  Speaker 2: Join mister panel this story of the late debate here
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  Speaker 2: on SCO weekdays at ten pm. Steven Treva and author
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  Speaker 2: and senior lecturer in history a Champion College Liz, should
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  Speaker 2: there be an apology tonight from Sarah Ferguson.
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  Speaker 11: I wouldn't hold my breath, Andrew, You'd be asking for
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  Speaker 11: trouble there. In fact, I dare say if Sarah Ferguson
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  Speaker 11: did apologize, the ABC viewership would be very confused, because
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  Speaker 11: so don't they notice anything out of the ordinary with
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  Speaker 11: this kind of biased coverage from the ABC. It's another day,
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  Speaker 11: It's another dollar for them.
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  Speaker 2: Stephen, the ABC. The Liberals keep funding it when they're
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  Speaker 2: in government, and they keep getting monster by at each election,
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  Speaker 2: despite you know, its chartered saying it must be impartial
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  Speaker 2: in exchange for taxpos funds. What's your conclusion.
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  Speaker 12: Then, I mean, it's what you've been saying for years,
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  Speaker 12: and I've come to agree with you. The ABC, for
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  Speaker 12: the most part, does need to be privatized. I mean,
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  Speaker 12: it's it's It's ratings are.
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  Speaker 1: Falling through the floor.
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  Speaker 12: Even labor MPs have said that it's admitted that its
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  Speaker 12: ratings are falling through the floor, and people forget that
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  Speaker 12: there are there are It's not bias is not just
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  Speaker 12: about a commercial bias or even party political bias. Bias
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  Speaker 12: is also ideological bias, and the ABC is as ideologically
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  Speaker 12: biased as they come.
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  Speaker 1: It's basically become astray is established church.
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  Speaker 12: In the late mid nineteenth century weblished, we started disestablishing
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  Speaker 12: the churches around Australia. But in nineteen thirty two Australia
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  Speaker 12: established a new church, and it's the ABC. It's got
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  Speaker 12: its own leftist doctrines, it's got its own untouchable clergy.
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  Speaker 12: It's completely out of touch with the average Australian and
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  Speaker 12: it's completely funded by the government, which means it's not
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  Speaker 12: accountable really to anyone. It absolutely needs to be defunded.
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  Speaker 12: And this interview is a classic example of exactly why.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think, Liz? I mean, the Liberals are
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  Speaker 2: too scared of the ABC. You know, it's gone from
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  Speaker 2: you know, we can handle it to now it's too
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  Speaker 2: big to insult and it's got an audience and they'll
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  Speaker 2: go for us. And to be too honest, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Liberal MP's seem to think that the ABC is
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  Speaker 2: the moral Larborter. I don't know why they picked people
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  Speaker 2: who think that for a Liberal party. But isn't it
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  Speaker 2: time that the Liberals did consider privatizing the ABC.
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  Speaker 11: If it's value, people pay for it, so why don't
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  Speaker 11: they Andrew. Every time they're in power, they do absolutely nothing.
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  Speaker 11: In fact, it was the Morrison government who in twenty
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  Speaker 11: twenty two restore the ABC's twenty eighteen funding when Turnbull
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  Speaker 11: put a indexation pause of eighty four million with regards
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  Speaker 11: to the ABC's funding. These guys do absolutely nothing to
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  Speaker 11: put their foot down and actually tell the National broadcaster,
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  Speaker 11: excuse me, you have a charter for a reason. That
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  Speaker 11: charter centers around unbiased reporting and coverage of absolutely everything.
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  Speaker 11: We're not seeing that.
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  Speaker 16: So how about we make it hurt when it comes
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  Speaker 16: to your funding until you pull your socks up that
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  Speaker 16: every time the Coalition is in power, we just get
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  Speaker 16: more of the same Andrew. So, as far as I'm concerned,
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  Speaker 16: the Libs are getting what they deserve.
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  Speaker 2: But Stephen, is it fair enough to say, well, look,
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  Speaker 2: the ABC is too big to offend, because if you
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  Speaker 2: did say we're going to cut your funding, the ABC
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  Speaker 2: campaign NonStop, night and day over all its platforms against you.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, all its platforms that no one's watching or listening to.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, the fact of the matter is the radio
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  Speaker 12: ratings have absolutely plummeted. They get some of the lowest
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  Speaker 12: ratings in the metropolitan cities around Australia. We're talking ratings
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  Speaker 12: between one point five to two point five percent of
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  Speaker 12: the radio listening population.
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  Speaker 1: The ratings for Q.
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  Speaker 12: And A are legendarily bad.
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  Speaker 1: I could see, I could.
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  Speaker 12: Potentially see an argument for why the ABC show keep
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  Speaker 12: funding for regional programs. But that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Liz Storro, Stephen Trevora, thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 2: That's it from me, Sherry Marxon. Next good note,