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OWNing Friday: Belle Collective & LAMH Recap with Dustin, Claudia & Blue · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well Look.
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  Speaker 1: Tyra Banks is suing Netflix for deformation because she claims
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  Speaker 1: that the documentary that she participated it participated in Excuse Me,
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  Speaker 1: was manipulation. She says she felt manipulated. On top of
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  Speaker 1: all of that, she filed the lawsuit Saturday thirteenth, which
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  Speaker 1: is an interesting day to follow lawsuitan Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: She said that they interview.
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  Speaker 1: Her for three and a half hours and they only
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  Speaker 1: used sixteen minutes of it. He also claims that she
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  Speaker 1: did not know that Shandy will classify what happened to her,
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  Speaker 1: SA this is you two. I can't say the word,
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  Speaker 1: so y'all know what essay means. She claims that she
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  Speaker 1: she did not know that Shandy will classify what happened
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  Speaker 1: to her as SA and that she wasn't given an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to respond to the claims that she did not
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  Speaker 1: that she did not reach out to Miss Jay following
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  Speaker 1: his stroke started with you blue. Is Tarra Banks justified
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  Speaker 1: for this lawsuit? Or is this ruining her already unfortunately tainted.
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  Speaker 2: Credibility and career.
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  Speaker 3: It's tiring. Tyra's never been known for knowing how to
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  Speaker 3: take an l She's never been known for knowing how
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  Speaker 3: to read the room. She's never been known for knowing
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  Speaker 3: well enough is enough, So her tone deafness is so
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  Speaker 3: legendary it's part of her her mythos at this point
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  Speaker 3: that Tyra not knowing the same tyer who put on
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  Speaker 3: a fat suit and had to be obese for forty
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  Speaker 3: five minutes and then had an actual obese person cradling
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  Speaker 3: her to their bosom while she cried about them being
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  Speaker 3: mean to her for an hour. That's not somebody I'm
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  Speaker 3: expecting to have discernment, Carlos, respectfully, Okay, that lady been
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  Speaker 3: a little bit zoolander. She's not in on the joke.
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  Speaker 3: So this is very Tyra. It's very Tira of her
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  Speaker 3: to be like, how dare you show me exactly how
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  Speaker 3: I am. I was there for three and a half hours, right'
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  Speaker 3: you use all three and a half hours of the
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  Speaker 3: three hour special about me? Oh sure, Tyra, whatever you say,
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  Speaker 3: I will say this. I do believe the documentary was sensational.
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  Speaker 3: And however, everything they alleged had already been part of
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  Speaker 3: the social site guyst for years before the documentary happened.
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  Speaker 3: And Tyra her Stuff has spoken about how she has
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  Speaker 3: poured over all those videos. So which one is it?
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  Speaker 3: Did you see all the allegations previously and you put
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  Speaker 3: over the videos which is why you were in the dock?
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  Speaker 3: Or are you shocked that Shandy says something that she's
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  Speaker 3: been saying for years what you would have seen doing
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  Speaker 3: your research. It can't be both. It can't be both,
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  Speaker 3: because Harry made a point of saying, I made it
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  Speaker 3: a point to listen to everything you said. I want
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  Speaker 3: to respond to it. I want to be intentional. So
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  Speaker 3: how are you saying that? But then fann and confusion
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  Speaker 3: about all the major points that were already swirling about
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  Speaker 3: before the dock was even made. That doesn't make any
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  Speaker 3: sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: Dustin.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, I guess I better watch my damn
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  Speaker 4: mouth because I don't want to as suing me, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And Carlos, she can't sit in
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  Speaker 4: your tear either, because we don't need them kind of problems.
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  Speaker 5: We need you free and clear so we can move
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  Speaker 5: this show forward.
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  Speaker 4: Now that everything said, allegedly, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, allegedly,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Tyra, you didn't lost your
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  Speaker 4: damn mind. First of all, you bringing up the Miss
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  Speaker 4: Jay shit. I remember them distinctly asking her in that
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  Speaker 4: documentary do you think a phone? Do you think you
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  Speaker 4: know you are gonna go see him? Are you gonna
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  Speaker 4: talk to them? I remember her saying she should probably
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  Speaker 4: have a phone call with them, and her electing not
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  Speaker 4: to speak further about the shit.
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  Speaker 5: I do agree with Blue.
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  Speaker 4: I think two things can be true at the same time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: she looked bad in the documentary for a lot of
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  Speaker 4: shit that she did do, But also, what do you mean, Tyra,
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  Speaker 4: like the way that you look based on that documentary
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  Speaker 4: is shit that you did? And defa Mason, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I guess, do your thing or whatever, but you don't.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody sues because they got a bad at it. Other
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  Speaker 4: than one other motherfucker. I know you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: so I don't you know I whatever, I do think
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people are going out of their way
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  Speaker 4: to make Tyra Banks look bad or pile on add
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  Speaker 4: onto the pile. If Tyra did this shit to me,
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  Speaker 4: I think that's happening, and that's fucked up.
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  Speaker 5: But Tyra is also not.
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  Speaker 4: Making it easier by acting weird all the goddamn time
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  Speaker 4: and looking space to fuck out every time you see her.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen her on stage performing, which, first of all,
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  Speaker 4: let's stop there. But she was performing in some capacity
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  Speaker 4: and it was a weird stick or trope that just
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  Speaker 4: was not connecting with the audience. And I know I
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  Speaker 4: didn't connect with it offline either. She needs to stop
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  Speaker 4: doing that. Take a damn picture, because that's what you're
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  Speaker 4: good at. You want of the best ever to do it.
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  Speaker 4: So do you still beautiful, Tyra? Like, get back in
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  Speaker 4: the game and get your confidence back up. But leave
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  Speaker 4: us alone with top model. I don't want to hear
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  Speaker 4: nothing else about it. I don't want to hear. I
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  Speaker 4: don't give a fuck about the lawsuit. I don't do
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  Speaker 4: it in privately. What do you only say do it different,
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  Speaker 4: Do it different? Do it different, Tyra? So that's it, Claudia,
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  Speaker 4: what you think?
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  Speaker 6: I do think there was a pylon.
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  Speaker 7: There was two documentaries released in the same year where
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  Speaker 7: they was making Tyler responsible for every single thing that
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  Speaker 7: went wrong, which I don't agree with that there's a
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  Speaker 7: network and Tyra is not a network, and I hate
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  Speaker 7: when that happens in the other Facebook. But what you
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  Speaker 7: will not do is sit there and act like that
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  Speaker 7: documentary was the first time it came to your attention
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  Speaker 7: that was the essay allegation. When you are to show
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  Speaker 7: what was it twenty years ago? However long it was ago.
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  Speaker 7: We all saw it when it happened. We all had
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  Speaker 7: a bad taste my mouth from that. And did you
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  Speaker 7: not think like when you yeah again you said you
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  Speaker 7: look at everything You're you're involved, You're in every aspect
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  Speaker 7: of the show, but then you're not when it's bad.
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  Speaker 7: It just MESSI is one thing, and it is hard
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  Speaker 7: to prove. You're gonna have to prove that it caused
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  Speaker 7: you real damage and then it is not true, right,
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  Speaker 7: but also exposing what you actually said and did that
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  Speaker 7: it's true is not a defamation case. I've won cases
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  Speaker 7: and I'm three and zero with my lawsuit.
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  Speaker 6: Lawsuit.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, call me before you do this, But I feel
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  Speaker 7: like Tyranny is a real sit down with someone that
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  Speaker 7: she trusts where maybe it's a live maybe it's alive,
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  Speaker 7: maybe it's with you, Carlos, where it isn't edited and
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  Speaker 7: you cannot blame it on editing later, because she needs that.
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  Speaker 7: She needs something where it's like it's live exactly, because
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  Speaker 7: I get when the network was like, oh, it's Tyra,
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  Speaker 7: but she didn't control everything. But don't play dumb about
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  Speaker 7: you didn't know what happened with Shamley. We all saw that,
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  Speaker 7: and that was a very cringe worthy moment. And at
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  Speaker 7: some point, hey, you have to stand up for those
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  Speaker 7: girls because remember she was You had quite a story
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  Speaker 7: about her saying that Naomi Campbell was real rough for her.
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  Speaker 6: Remember she we felt bad.
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  Speaker 7: We thought that Tyra was the victim and Nami was
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  Speaker 7: the bad guy. That's how that was her narrative, right,
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  Speaker 7: And it was like, oh, poor Tyra. You know Nami's
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  Speaker 7: bullying her. Don't try around to be what you complain about.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh oh oh.
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  Speaker 6: And I like Tyra. I saw her.
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  Speaker 7: We all have Lino Ritchie and everything. You know, she
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  Speaker 7: still face cards still there. The face is still there.
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  Speaker 1: I felt that, Claudia, mm hmm, that was good.
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  Speaker 6: The face is still there.
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  Speaker 2: No boot about don't become what you.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, don't yeah, don't be don't complain, don't become
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  Speaker 7: the thing that you're complaining about. Your whole thing was
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  Speaker 7: Oh my god. Naomi was so mean to me, and
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  Speaker 7: I thought black women would all get together. And I
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  Speaker 7: didn't like how they did the sisters on that show either.
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  Speaker 7: I felt she was extra harsh on a lot of
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  Speaker 7: those black girls. And I think a lot of times
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  Speaker 7: when black people get in certain spaces, like judges, police officers,
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  Speaker 7: you see it all the time, right, they feel like
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  Speaker 7: I can't be too nice to the black people because
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  Speaker 7: they're gonna feel like I'm giving favoritism. So they swing
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  Speaker 7: the pendulum too far to the other way. And that's
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  Speaker 7: not cool either.
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  Speaker 6: What's girls, Sorry, guys, you.
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  Speaker 7: Should know better than anybody else what black women go
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  Speaker 7: do in that raggedy ass business. A black model will
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  Speaker 7: drive an hour to an audition to get there, and
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  Speaker 7: a cassenger that can legally say to you, sorry, we're
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  Speaker 7: out looking for black girls, and under the rules in
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  Speaker 7: that field, they can say, well, for marketing, well that's
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  Speaker 7: our campaign. We're not we're looking for right now. And that, well,
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  Speaker 7: you can't get a lot. You can't sue them for that.
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  Speaker 7: And you know that, Tyra, you know that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that happens unfortunately in this business and corporate America.
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  Speaker 1: You know it does. I'll say this much. The thing is,
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  Speaker 1: Tyra Banks created Top Model, right she has produced her
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  Speaker 1: own talk show and has produced subsequent seasons and spin
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  Speaker 1: off the Top Model. As a creative myself, there's not
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  Speaker 1: one person breathing who can tell me we're doing a
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  Speaker 1: special documentary on love and marriage franchise and we want
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  Speaker 1: you to send the chair. I will do my own
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  Speaker 1: documentary for a show I created. But that was a
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  Speaker 1: mistake number one. Why would you give your legacy to
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  Speaker 1: the hands of strangers?
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  Speaker 6: Twice she did two documentaries I Know.
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  Speaker 1: And the Thing with Me, And that's why we have
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  Speaker 1: to call the spadea s fae. I love Tyra, I
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  Speaker 1: do think, unfortunately, her reputation is tainted by by all
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  Speaker 1: of this, because I believe she let her ego lead
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  Speaker 1: her into these bad decisions She's made Netflix. Yes, it
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  Speaker 1: is seen in one hundred and ninety countries. You were
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  Speaker 1: used to building your television career right off of having
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  Speaker 1: editing control.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you relinquish that?
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  Speaker 1: When you said Wright Claudia dusn't and blue like everyone
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  Speaker 1: knows that top model had this weird gray cloud over.
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  Speaker 2: It, like it was.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, this is like Scandal Shondaland, where
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  Speaker 1: Carrie Washington and Fitch twenty years later can do actors
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  Speaker 1: on Actors Variety interviews and still flirt with each other
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  Speaker 1: for the sake of the audience feeling like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's the president.
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  Speaker 1: And whatever her time was, you know, like it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: that this was something that was extremely controversial throughout the
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  Speaker 1: years that it was not only on VH one but
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  Speaker 1: even after life of that. So the thing with her suing,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I need people to know this,
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  Speaker 1: when you can sue anybody, So I didn't remind people
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  Speaker 1: of that. Anybody can sue anybody. Number one, Number two,
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  Speaker 1: I do believe that in most cases the lawsuit is
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  Speaker 1: just not to find.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Tarara wants to win. I think she
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  Speaker 2: knows she's not winning.
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  Speaker 1: I think Tarvara and her team did the lawsuit to
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  Speaker 1: have another story to protect her legacy by saying I
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  Speaker 1: was not aware of this, and that's.
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  Speaker 2: What she's doing.
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  Speaker 1: So all like with Black China suit the Kardashians for
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  Speaker 1: saying they tried to get rid of the Robin Challenge, right,
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  Speaker 1: it was sort of like, look, it's not your show.
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  Speaker 1: The show has Rob named first. The Kardashian at that
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  Speaker 1: point owns E, yeah, you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 1: you had no right and y'all broke up. So that
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  Speaker 1: was that, and she whatever the jury of her peers
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  Speaker 1: found her, found the Kardashians to be not guilty. So
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  Speaker 1: I think Tyra is doing this is safe and it's
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately because I feel like this is another chip in
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  Speaker 1: her legacy that's already.
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  Speaker 4: It's also stupid because people already feel how they feel
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  Speaker 4: about Tyra, So it's not like this documentary would have impacted,
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  Speaker 4: you know, or stained or tainted her legacy in a vastly.
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  Speaker 5: Different way than it already was. This shit was already stinking.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, People already was accusing Tyra
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  Speaker 4: of being fucked up, and you know, I'm saying, crossing
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  Speaker 4: all kinds of lines even though things were different at
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  Speaker 4: the time that that show came out, So you have
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  Speaker 4: to understand that when you interpret the things that happened.
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  Speaker 4: But Tyra, they've been on your ass, So you doing
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  Speaker 4: this lawsuit is actually going to have the opposite impact.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna make you look even more batshit fucking crazy
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  Speaker 4: than you look before.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: She's lying about the edit, though, because when the Tyra
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  Speaker 3: documentary came out, I did a really intense deep dive
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  Speaker 3: on it, and one of the things that struck me
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  Speaker 3: is we're talking as if she didn't.
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  Speaker 6: Like the edit.
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  Speaker 3: I actually deeply believe Tyra liked the edit and thought
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  Speaker 3: that we were gonna like the edit too. And she's
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  Speaker 3: responding to us not liking the edit, not her not
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  Speaker 3: liking the edit the way it starts, because I remember
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  Speaker 3: this in the beginning, you know, when you see somebody's
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  Speaker 3: mask slip off, you're like, oh, this is about to
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  Speaker 3: be one of those things where you're not in on
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  Speaker 3: the joke and you're about to look bad that you
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  Speaker 3: think that you're eating right now.
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  Speaker 5: And then yes, at the.
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  Speaker 3: Very beginning, and I wrote this down back at the
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  Speaker 3: day I looked it up, she said models are unsympathetic characters.
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  Speaker 3: They are vapid, and I wanted to get back at
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  Speaker 3: the modeling industry. It was my payback to do Top Model.
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  Speaker 3: You have a magazine, but I have a hit TV show.
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  Speaker 3: She starts off the documentary saying, Top Model, and everything
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  Speaker 3: I did, including cannibalizing all them little girls, was to
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  Speaker 3: get my look back at and a win tour in
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  Speaker 3: them because you have a magazine, but I have the
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  Speaker 3: top show in one hundred countries. So she started off smug,
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  Speaker 3: thinking she was gonna have like this Phoenix rising story,
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  Speaker 3: which is why she is a documentary with see you
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  Speaker 3: for season twenty five. Wing.
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  Speaker 5: You're doing it right, she hat.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't even think Tyra's still because of the edit.
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  Speaker 3: I think Tyra loved the edit. She stunned.
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  Speaker 7: We don't like the edit, yeah, which and I think
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  Speaker 7: this like lawsuit is also like you know when your
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  Speaker 7: lawyer says objection in court, right, it's just like they
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  Speaker 7: they just trying to stop the flow the questions, right,
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  Speaker 7: They're trying to stop the flow. Sometimes I think she's like,
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  Speaker 7: I think she does not want to go forward with
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  Speaker 7: the lawsuit because I know about lawsuits. You don't want
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  Speaker 7: to get to Discovery. You don't want to get everything
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  Speaker 7: coming out because right now a lot of stuff isn't
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  Speaker 7: coming out like that. I have friends that worked on
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  Speaker 7: her show and people I knew it, and I was
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  Speaker 7: a Tyra Banks apologist for years, like I defended her, like, oh,
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  Speaker 7: it must be tough for her, especially being coming in
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  Speaker 7: when she did when it was not Listen. I don't
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  Speaker 7: think she's all bad. I don't think she's all bad.
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  Speaker 7: I do think there were some some and some. She
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  Speaker 7: wasn't across the border a bad person. I think she had.
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  Speaker 7: I think she went in with good attentions, and I
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  Speaker 7: think you get drunk with power. I think something changes
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  Speaker 7: when you get these positions with some of these people.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, she had some moments she was redeeming
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  Speaker 7: and then some moments we like, god, damn, that was
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  Speaker 7: how would you just let that fly fly?
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  Speaker 5: Also?
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  Speaker 7: TV was very different back then. Yeah, TV was very
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  Speaker 7: wicked back then.
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  Speaker 4: So see that's two different things, right because Blue is
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  Speaker 4: saying that was it you or was it Carlos?
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  Speaker 5: Whoever it was, that was you? Blue?
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  Speaker 4: That just said that her attention with the show was
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  Speaker 4: a big as you right to the industry, that had
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  Speaker 4: wronged her. But that's not that's not a good intention
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  Speaker 4: to start anything off with.
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  Speaker 5: It's negative intention to start off exactly. So is it Uchi?
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  Speaker 5: While there one mic?
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  Speaker 4: Do you want to do something good for these girls
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  Speaker 4: who do who you know would otherwise not have opportunities
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  Speaker 4: like this, or are you trying to get the industry
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  Speaker 4: back and then sacrificing all of these real people? You
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying along the way and your quest
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  Speaker 4: to give somebody the finger that's not even looking your
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  Speaker 4: direction in the first dawn place, I think I think
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  Speaker 4: she I.
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  Speaker 3: Think she's doing with Claudia saying and what you're saying
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  Speaker 3: where she's saying, I'm gonna help these girls while getting
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  Speaker 3: back at the inn or windsor then you came in
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  Speaker 3: a winsor.
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  Speaker 2: That's the gag.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I always tell people your intentions when
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  Speaker 1: you do stuff will always be the result of and
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  Speaker 1: not working on your favorite If you have bad intentions
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  Speaker 1: going into anything, relationships, career or friendships, whatever, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like I said, it's bad intentions, it's never gonna end
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  Speaker 1: well for you.
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  Speaker 5: It's doomed.
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: When you watch you want to go back now like
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: and again you know you want your back when we
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: watch the documentary and you see looking at it now,
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: it was absolutely ridiculous some of the things.
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: That they went through.
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: And anyone who's had a real even works for some
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: catalogs and modeling a lot of that stuff, and it
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: came out of the documentary was in no way, shape
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: or form gonna.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: Help them be better models. Like doing that Runway show
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: where they had the.
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: Swinging pieces of phone like cots of hitting them. All
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: that stuff was just like it was humiliation. And those producers,
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: like those producers of shows like Fear Factory, How strong
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: you are? They try to embarrass you. See how much
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: you want this carrot? How much you want this I'm
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: a man. Yeah, Like you're not going to get a
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: real modeling get got Very few of them did it,
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: and they were probably women like a takara like an
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: eva an agent. Yeah, they were going to get it
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: no matter what they got to despite the show, but
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: the show was very My cousin was up for that show,
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: my cousin Brittany, and she was in the twenty. She
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: didn't make it into the house drop dead gorgeous. They
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: told her you're not coming with enough drama. It wasn't
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: about her face, bone strut, all those girls up, you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: it wasn't about that. It was like, you know, it
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: was reality first. Modeling was probably third or fourth on
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: the list.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: They admitted that Claudia he admitted that Tyra was inspired
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: by fear factor and that modeling was not the top priority.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: You could tell, yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: The photos she was with those guys and then we're
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: putting the penises on the girls modeling and they just said, well,
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: just girl, work through it.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: That wouldn't that for that? So you leave a set
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: for that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Everything was dickens is fault. She looks like a totem
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: pole and also, uh, motheruer who is the other one
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: that looked like a mad scientist?
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: That what was his name? Ken Monk? Yeah, the one
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: you like the girls?
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Ken Mark to Carlos, is that your your good Judy. No,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know Ken Monk.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't like the way he was the.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Daddy. No, he ken Mark is always up there next
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: to Tyro, disappearing like the like the girls will get
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: voted off like.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: He's always and that's why I agree with Claudia that listen,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I have some sympathy for Tyra because she gets all
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the blame smoke, not alone, and be creative.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: First of all, no shade you, Tyra.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Tyra Banks was not creative enough as a producer to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: come up with those challenges.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: And the way these shows work rain drops you. Literally
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: every challenge show as party who disclibert a princess.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: There's literally challenge producers whose sole job is to come
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: up with challenges to bring out the best or worst
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: thing you plus entertainment.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So that's why I agree with Claudia that Tyra.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Can't take the sole blame for it, and I hate
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that she is to some degree, but her smugness, her
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: lack of her lack of compassion to me is what's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: going to be her legacy.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: And that trench code too, The trench code made you
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: not have factor.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: And I don't like how some of the others are
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: acting so holier than now that they were. Wow, she
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: was so awful when all of them, all of them,
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: all of them had moments, they said abusive things, those girls,
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: and I don't like how they all well, it seems
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: like they all got together and was like, well, we're
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: just gonna put it all on Tira, because when you
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: run it back. It was not just Tyra, and they
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: all Janice too. The nerve of Janice Dickinson jis the
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: fucking nerve nerve and she's just jumping.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: On from Aerosmith.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: She does.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: November ran right.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: I was crying when I seen you, motherfucker.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, looking on to a story that's a little bit
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: more personal for Claudia Jordan in some degree.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Oh lord, what's this about?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: So?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Comedian Michael Blackson is in the news because he has
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: agreed to pay forty five hundred per month in child
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: support for his nearly one year old son that he
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: has had with a woman named Nadias than my Claudia, Nadia.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: It doesn't matter.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: She's a whore, okay according allegedly according to legal doctor.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: Their booty hole online the pictures that she advertises it,
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: so there's no need to put allegedly, I have the
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: if I got I'm three and oh Carlos legal note.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: According to legal documents part of the case, he will
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: also ordered to pay five thousand dollars to cover her
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: attorney fees. Claudia, you are obviously really really close to
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: his current estrange fiance. I don't know Mama Baby, Mama Rada,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: who I had the pleasure of interviewing as well, what
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this, because that's your friend.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You are in love and hip hop Miami.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: We we saw you of course, you know, verbally fight
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: with Michael about getting his life right. He now has
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to pay forty five hundred dollars a month for a
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: child who has won for the next seventeen years of.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: His So Nadia is pushing these stories. She contacted TMZ
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: several times, and she's been sending them to all the blogs.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: And we know this for a fact. This is no
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: legal note needed. And I knew about this coming out
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: a few days ago. I was informed that she was
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: doing this. You know, I got people everywhere. So she's
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: so happy that she's getting forty five hundred dollars a
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: month from a multi millionaire that makes probably fifty thousand
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: dollars a weekend at the minimum. And it's like, it's
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: I'm embarrassed for her. And there was a there's there's
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: there's a story out there allegedly. Well it's not let
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: you I know this. Also, she was trying to get
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: pregnant by an NBA player. I'm not going to say
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: his name, but I did see him at a golf tournament.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: I asked him about that. He's like, now, Michael got that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: So it was like, by any means, she was looking for,
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: you know, her other kid just turned eighteen. She was
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: looking for the next set of payments to come. So
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: Michael was the sucka that went for it and went
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: raw dog on this this girl okay, which I still
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: don't get it because Michael, like, you're you're a successful man.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: I don't get why successful men spread their seed like
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: blown a dandelion everywhere.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I don't get that.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: So yeah, she's very happy that you got forty. Only
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: a hood rat will be so happy to tell the
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: I'd be embarrassed if a man who's average shirt or
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: fur coat costs forty or fifty thousand dollars and with
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: two thousand dollars three thousand dollars versace shirts, my child support.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: Was forty five hundred.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: But for her it's a win because she was Amanda,
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: how much you you know, Nadia, Congratulations, that's the biggest
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: check you've ever gotten in your life.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. I do want to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: ask you this, Claudia, how is Rod?
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: Was I not supposed to be petty on that one?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: No?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: You you were? You were?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: You were, Claudia?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: How is how is Rada deing with all of this?
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: Rada's very has a lot of control on the financials
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: and stuff like she doesn't run his liff, like, she
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: doesn't say, Michael, you have to pay this. But he
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: trusts her low handles, bookings, a lot of the stuff like.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: They work together as a good team work wise. She's
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: of course, it's hurtful when any man has a child
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: on you, and people will blame Rod and say, well,
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: what did you expect you?
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: He was allowed to have sex with other women.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: There's plenty of people that are in open that I
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: won't say open relationships where they have other people they
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: mess with. Right, the deal breaker was not having a
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: kid with somebody else. You can mess with other people
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: with the condom. You can imagine that.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know this, but I want.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: You that's your friends.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I'd rather you say it does in case those are
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: all watching them watch it. Can you clarify if Rada
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: was only okay if they had another woman with them,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: or was she also, in addition to that, okay with
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: him having another woman independently of.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: Her, She never I think she was very aware that
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: a lot of these entertainers cheat, so they it was
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: an an acceptance of a man's gotta dude, a man does,
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: he does, and I'd rather know. So he did have
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: a pass at one point to like with I listen,
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: please don't think that I condone any of this. I've
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: had my conversation with my friend. I'm like, I said,
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: if you do this man an inch, he's gonna take
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: him out.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: He knows.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: Of course, her culture is very open to these things
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: and very very passive and kind of you know, but
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: she does recognize that that was a It was not
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: the smartest thing to do. It was actually dumb because
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: you say that a guy thinks, oh, it's a green light,
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: and it is.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: He's not ever going to play by the rules. He
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: has the money, he got a pass from you. So yeah,
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: so yeah, there was I think that he was messing
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: with Yeah, he messed with women when she was there
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: as well, and she knew that. But he was never
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: supposed to be unprotected because they were they they have
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: their things, so you know, you never want someone to
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: bring something home to you potentially or create a baby.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: So Rata has definitely learned a lot.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: And I asked if she regrets going on Love and
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: Hip Hop, and at one point she ready to walk
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: away from that show. But she did say, if I
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: didn't go on the show, I would have continued to
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: be naive and believe in every single thing.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: And she says, I was so stupid. I was so naive.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: I believe because he's different when he's with me one
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: on one.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: When she found out about the baby, did she finally
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: get to call him one to mother taker.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: She went in on him and and I was glad
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: to find boy, I'll tell you, but Nadia is and
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: I don't. I keep telling Roder I'm like, listen, don't
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: just be mad at the other girl. It's it's not
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: you need to be mad at the man that had
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: some kind of responsibility to you to protect your heart.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: The thing is this, and I'm gonna have bluu and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and thus take it away from this. I gotta get
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: this out. And by the way, my my interview with Roders,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I'll go watch it.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: She's a sweet woman.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I did say this to her and and I could
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: be an anomaly.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: And I don't give a.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Shit, Ladies, if you are going to allow your man
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to have another woman in the bid room ninety nine
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: point five percent of the time, he's gonna do it
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: independent of you.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I'll say this much. Obviously, I used.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: To live in Atlanta. No shade to Atlanta is the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: It's the city of swingers.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Okay. All I'll say is this.
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever met a woman
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: who allowed another woman in her bedroom and her man
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: did not have another woman on the side while she
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: was doing her own thing.
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: Never exactly, go ahead, loo, exactly.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Well, it goes that vacation plan. Doesn't already talk to
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: me out of fun stuff. My first thought to this
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: whole story is, e yuck, because so much Michael Blockstone
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: seamen in the com I just I just it's too much.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I'm a lot I get it, I'm itchy. I don't
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: want to think about his stuff like that. Yeah, I
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: just seenis last week. I'm going through a lot right now.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: It was too much.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: And sorry, I said to the two ladies, I said,
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: all y'all fight over Michael, like y'all are really fighting
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: over him, and I that's my friend, but I still
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: had to say it, like you're really fighting over this
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: to be in the secuation.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I had a camera real and also too, I will
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: say this, the forty five hundred shocked me because you
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: can do that working like a regular nine to five,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: so you didn't even have to go through all that.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: If I'm gonna lay under a man and stare at
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: the ceiling and count the stars outside the window until
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: he's done, I need more than forty five hundred.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: But that tells you the level she's on that she's
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: celebrating it. She's sending that to the blogs that the
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: one went down to the calls and said, oh my god,
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: not Kamichi whatever, her last name is, Baldini, whatever, Ferrari,
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: I don't know what her last name is. Nadia's not
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: support came out break. Why would that be news? I
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: wouldn't won the post, like why is this news? Why
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: this is embarrassing?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: And not anybody who makes forty five hundred a month.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I just want to say that if you're somebody who
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: that's your living wage, hopefully that's after taxes, Like sure,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: my thing is grifting, that is bottom of the barrel. Yes,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: you could money's on and made that kind of money.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: That's that's regular clothes on in the daytime outside the
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: pigley wiggy back and gross like you didn't have to
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: do any of that to make that kind of money. Baby,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. What is going on?
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: So my thing is this, right, the story, This is
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: a stupid motherfucking story.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: First of all, the damn story is the fact that
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: you had a baby on this woman in the first
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: damn place.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Right, That's where the shock and awe is. After that,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: who gives.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: A fuck and a word. I'm trying to pay my
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: mother fucking rent. It's hot outside the Knicks one. I
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: got a show coming up on Friday in Philly, my mom.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to make sure my parents healthy, like I
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: you know, the world is on fucking fire. They had
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: a motherfucker who was throwing up at all over tobacco
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: snuff and dog shit all over his chest, was flying
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: out his mouth on a UFC way in that called
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Michelle Obama something unspeakable on television.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: The other day.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about this lady that is
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: paying getting forty five hundred dollars a month from Michael
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Blaxon and child support.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: I do not care.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I don't care how your friend Claudia is doing about
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: it outside of her being okay.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: The story and when I say I don't care, I
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: don't mean I'm being heartless. I mean the story was
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: the baby in itself, you know what I'm saying. Once
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: we moved past that being a fact that there's a baby,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: the rest of this is in the words of Destiny
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Peyton Malarkey, who gives a fuck?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: And to the.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Dummy who only got forty five hundred dollars a month
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: in court, you're bad, you know what I'm saying. Like
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: you should have played better. You know what I'm saying,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: You should have You should have prepared yourself better, got
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: a better attorney, and really saw this thing through the
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: whole point I would think, I would assume, based on
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Claudia and Blue, the whole point of fucking with someone
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: who is Michael Blackson would be to have some sort
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: of financial games, you know what I'm saying. At the end,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: So if you didn't see the way deal all the
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: way through tough Titty, you know what I'm saying, Maybe.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: It's a song it didn't even worse. Now mental illness
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: is at this end. You know what I'm saying. Now,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: it's a mental health issue.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: So that's my thing. Like, and it's a song about this.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: It's a song about this where they'd be like niggas
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: get shot every day. He'll be all right, like whatever.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. This ain't no car who
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: cares nothing.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she's my friend, but even me too, I'm like,
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: why is this news?
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Why? Yeah, becauseial indicator.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: But she's putting that out there because her whole thing
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: is competing with Ryder. Like I'm not a whole We're
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: both hole together. No, you're not better than me. I'm
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: but he keeps embarrassing you.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: He actually is embarrassed both women. I have to be fair.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: He's been embarrassed.
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: He has listen, that's my friend, but he's embarrassed both women.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: But like, I think she's thinking about winning against Rada
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: and she needs to worry about winning in life. And yeah,
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: forty dollars a month from someone that has a child. Yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: but you live in La Okay, in La.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, so she can barely afford a white fridge. Yeah,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: that's my credit.
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: Can we pivot, and she was on another reality show,
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: looking for Love with a Chance, Chance on Zeus. She
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: was on that, and then she was the basketball player
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: allegedly she was. She was trying to come up with
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: a come up and she got this this almost like okay.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: So this is to the five straight men her watching
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: mother and not lob sixth that possible.
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: Now to the straight man who's watching Mothers Do Live,
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: please let us go the comments.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: My bite to y'all is this, when you make it
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: in your career, the second most important thing, besides getting
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to the bag is the woman you choose to be with,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: one you choose to lay up with, because she can
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: make or break you. And yes, it's nice today, a
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: bunch of baddy, but she has the ability to ruin
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: your life. And it's listened. It's just it's not worth it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: It's not worth it. And I think of Michael Blackson,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and I don't know him personally, I can tell by
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: just watching him that he probably.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: He brought.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: He wasn't used to getting some of the caliber of
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: women he's getting now and he's making up for lost time.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: The fact that you stressed out Dustin so much she
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: had to pop the bottle of tequila.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: And I had too because I was cooking him walking
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: around and I I've been sick.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I've been sticking him for a minute, putting all this
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: stupid ass ship on that show, arguing with my friend
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: on TV, walking around in that VERSTACEI robe that we
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: all got three or four of you know what I'm saying,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: and it's not even a big deal no more. One
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: of my friends even got the damn dog bed. Shout
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: out to Kid Fury. His dog got the chi dog bed,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: So like, you know, we don't care. Michael Blackson like,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: get over it. Stop wearing them horrible clothes. Uh, I'm
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: not even gonna do it, because honestly, it's literally none
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: of my business. And I think that's where the source
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: of my frustration is coming from, because who gives a fuck?
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: Did you see?
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: I was embarrassed for the girl though on the show
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: she was like, yes, I got this this Versachi robe
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: for like Cuccie and like talking about how biggest penises.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: I'm like, girl, that you're not winning.
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: This is embarrassing. It's embarrassing. Michael, You're embarrassing, not your
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: embarrassing ryder.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: We've had our conversation and a cycle that rode about
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: how many of you had.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: I know I didn't have two of them. I had
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: black and red.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: To somebody else's because I wasn't about to pay for that.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying that I will tell you
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: the road that feels good as the rich Colton rope,
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: the one from that.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: It's yes on the inside.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I want to see him in that, yes, yes, all right,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: all right. So moving on to Bell Collector.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I want to get into one seemingly quickly on bell
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: collectors and rain draws.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: We're talking about love and Match, Huntsville or Union part
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: two and hotspots of Atlanta in the Bent. But first
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: thing first, I want to start with you, Dustin. So
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Bell Collector.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Selena found out through men because once again to my
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: fire streatment watching straight man gossip, if not more than women,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and that is a fact, okay. So Selena found out
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: through her husband after talking after he was talking to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Glenn about the fact that Glendale was going to went
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: to go see a divorce attorney to figure out his
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: rights in terms of a posting up, and all those
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: things got back to Selena.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Selena met with Letitia one on one did not bring
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it up.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: She then gets around the ladies and she goes, oh,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: by the way, I want to talk to you about something.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I heard what's going on with you and Glenn? I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: did hear he went to go see a divorce attorney.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Letitia did not know. She was called off guard and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: she left and Selena, my favorite part of the scene
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: is because.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: To me, this was so like girl coach shit. Selena goes, well,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: don't tell him I talked the child.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I'm my favorite part, like, oh shit, because I knocked
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: you my man under the bus.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Latitia said that how rich of you, Selena.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: You were mad that we came to you with the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: news that your husband allegedly fathering outside child. Hey, Michael Blackson,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: but you got mad that we did that in front
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: of the group. Why didn't you take me aside to
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: do that when you were with me one on one?
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Justin sort of Selena kind of gave Leticia that that
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: rope to handle her with. However, also we all remember
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Latitia saying all this fear and the bell collective ending
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: with that letting them know Latitia. So we know that
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Latitia has been waiting, okay to have an opportunity to
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: get people back or to have her turn.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: She also just said, well, when it's.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: My issue, are we all gonna get together or not,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: So that approach can be applied to Selena, telling her once.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: They all got together, right.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: I think where Selena fucked up is that she didn't
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: tell she saw Latsia and didn't say nothing.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: And that for that she was wrong.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, you should have told
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: her when she was in your presence, no matter who
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: was around.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: I think that.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Selena was on She looked visibly uncomfortable even delivering that message.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: It was very reminiscent of when my girl Cynthia Bailey,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: who looked out standing on Watch what Happens like this Week?
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: By the way, but they shout out to Parish, shout
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: out to parishe they make a hell of a duo.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: But it reminded me of when Cynthia had to say
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: that shit to Phedra and then to the Rains.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: It was a thing. Yeah, you didn't want to, She didn't.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: That's not her personality and we all know that that
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: ain't even how she didn't want to do that, and
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: you could see it.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: I felt the.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Same energy from Selena in that scene. Selena did not
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: want to deliver that message at that table. That's why
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: she was kind of all over the place. It wasn't smooth,
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: and so, you know whatever. I just feel like La
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: teacher is like, I'm not gonna miss my opportunity to
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: make this an issue.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: And I can't even say I'm mad at.
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: Her for it, Okay, Claudia, I mean Selena didn't do
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: herself any just any favors. When she was asked, well,
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: why didn't you tell me before? And she says, well,
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen you around. But she had enough time
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: to say it in front of other people and tell
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: her other friends and then say it in front.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Of the group.
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: And they did invent this thing in the early nineteen hundredths,
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: I believe called.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: It a telephone.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: That could have been used if she I don't know,
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: maybe she could have like picked one up and hit
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: the buttons and dialed her friend's number and called, or
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: even a text. I don't I think they do voice memos.
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: So well, yes, it wasn't get back, it wasn't I
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: for an eye. It was like, oh okay a little bit, Selena.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: I like you too, I do like you I'm usually
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: on your side, but I thought, like, you know, that
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: was definitely some TV shit right there, because in real life, bitch,
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: do you tell me in front of people like that?
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: I don't care if I did you first. You know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: we got to show you. You sit, you know how
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: it feels. Maybe all of our reasons to not do
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: me like that, you know what I'm saying, And you
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: can still have some more. Wh ain't gonna do you
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: like you did me? Let me tell you what's going
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: on your man? I would have done that, but yeah.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: You done. I didn't see you around. We did a
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: show together.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Girl.
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: The town is so how big is that city? Eighteen
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: thousand people are there?
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Like the topography of Jackson, Mississippi.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Here you come with.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: The topography, Claudia.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I can't do it. Second week. It's too many big words,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I think. Okay, So the debate is that she stupid
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: or is she lying? Okay, well that's what I heard.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I was trying. I got adhd. You have to encapsulate
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: it is a lady a little dumb and didn't realize
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: she was making a mess, or she lied, she knew
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: she was making a message. She meant that shit. I
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: mean both kind of suck. If that's the question that's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: being asked, was it the question, Carlos? Is that why
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I heard? Okay, I did not ask, lady, she mess you?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: What do you think? Okay? What's too wrong for breaking
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the bone back?
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: So if she do, she mess so let me think
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: if I have to, because that's all I'm hearing. Y'all
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: can make it cute all you want, that's all I
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: hear it. Okay, no more wine, Claudia, You're right, why you.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: See, I'm triking coconut juice and.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: My life.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Okay, So if she is a messy, okay,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: let's do dumb first. Actually, if she's dumb, then it's
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: reckless and I can't be around people who are reckless
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: with my business, right. And if she's messy, then i'd
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: respect her more. She owned that. She's like, hey, it's
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: sucks from the tables turn huh. I would have respected more.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: But to be this weird thing in between, when you
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a little messy and a little stupid girl, do something
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: else next time? That wasn't it. That's my feedback.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: But I love Selena.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I love her. I don't want nobody bothering her. You
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, That's how I feel. And when
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: you're watching somebody make a mistake that you care about,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: your mind immediately goes to I just want them to
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: be all right. On the other side of this, she
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: obviously fucked up. She should have told that Tisha. But
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I think that I don't think that that Selena enjoys confrontation,
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: even though she came on the show in a little fight.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: But I don't think that Selena enjoys confrontation.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: And I would say that's Dustin. So this is why
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I'm saying this. We all understand discernment. Right If any
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: of us had a friend who didn't meet us no
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: harm but was constantly doing that ship to us, that
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: you'd be the first person to stop taking the calls
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: of the four of us. You'd be the first one
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: be like, I'm not doing that. That's too much.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: I would.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: So I'm saying that you could be a good person,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: but if you move in a messy way at a
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: certain point, whether it's intentional or you can kind of potato.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing this with you, y.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: You don't have dumb friends, No.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: They're a liability.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: This is exhibit A I have a couple.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Oh damn, I do too.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I just don't want to be that friend. That's what
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: I just be like Dustin. You just don't be that person.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Mean well, Claudia, I think the word we should use
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: is their loose.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: There were a loose Okay, now you they don't.
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: No, it ain't nothing worse.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: Okay. I can't say slow now, goddamn you. I can't
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: say fat.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I can't I heard Okay, I'm not.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: I can't say anything. Okay, I'll just sit there.
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: I would say, okay, I will say this from my
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: little season.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: Okay, ain't nothing worse.
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: When you have to deliver a message that you don't
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: want to deliver, right, it does suck because you gotta
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: you gotta take the heat for it, like you are
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: so uncomfortable, but it is good for the show I am.
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: And then sometimes it's can I say a Mexican standoff?
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: Can I say that?
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's.
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: Like loya gun lowa gun, Like it's like a standoff, right,
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: Like you know, You're like, I don't want to do it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: I just this is I wouldn't really do this in
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: real life. It's not how I would really move and
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: they're like, oh, production network is on the line, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: that happens right, because it happens right. And Claudia Jordan
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: when I y'all put that stupid ass wig on me
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: and had Porsche Maker comment about my wig and I
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: looked retarded.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: I mean I looked at it. Okay, I had a method.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying, no, heart, I.
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: Don't remember, Claudia, you ever tell you put on a
• 44:51
  Speaker 9: wig that.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't you.
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: But anyway, and then I got read for the bad wig.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't even wear wigs, y'all, maybe do
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: this anyway.
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying, sometimes when you see them uncomfortable and
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: doing things that you're like, damn.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: She had to do her job and we're here for it.
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: Thank you. It was good TV.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: No, it was great TV's great TV.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: So Bell Collective, guys, every prod Essential make su y'all
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: watch it? Please up next, Love and Matrich counts Up
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Part two Reunion.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: One Last Thing Know It on Bell Collective. I'm so sorry,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: you know, I hate cutting y'all. Loft Marie Pistel picked
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: the worst ones.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: Didn't she? Oh my god, I wanted to take the
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: blind fold off for her and be like, lady, look,
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: you are literally doing this all wrong.
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: When he was singing, it was so cringe. When he
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: was singing, it was so cringe.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: I was please the random woman that they threw in there.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: They won't leave her alone.
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: On that huh.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: Oh when she said she was eighteen or whatever, threw
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: a woman into.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: The Yeah, is she a bout driver, Claudia.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: No, she's just looked just like like.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, no.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Clear list who we're talking to, Like like, what brought
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: the stud to?
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: You know, I completely overlooked that. I completely overlooked. I
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: thought that was yeah. I thought they was all niggas.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: I ain't nothing.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: I was like, these the pigs, you know what I'm saying.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: Maybe that was the girl was talking about the heavy
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: titty lady.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, why is there a random.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: Many first stay taking astray?
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Whenever they looked like many Fresh, they accepted Claudia. They
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: all know that, some of them.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's just because he's clean shaven and curve and
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: got cities.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: Fun fact, someone in the Real Housewives of Atlanta you
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: semester up, Manny Fresh, you.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Already told us a few months ago Claudia.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: Did, and I'm not gonna say it again because I'll
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: text you.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Chat text her.
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: Claudia, all right, so I want to get into love
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: about her husband.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Nell and Kimmy's argument continued, where you know, Kimmy tonell
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: to bring it down. Here they're calling each other to
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: b words. Nell feels like you have no right telling
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: us to.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Chill when you always get crunk. And then they go backstage.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Neil stays on stage with me because one of her
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: leg is a broken child, and she she tells me
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: how pretty much this is what Kimmy does.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Uh Blue? Who sad?
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: Are you on?
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Nel or Kimmy in their conversation?
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: And do you think that Kimmy was wrong or telling
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: another grown woman to break it down?
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: To hear it was giving.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Spider Man Spider Man like, I don't even know which
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: one is which one. It comes to this because my
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: makeup artist was in the room and she was cleaning
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: up herself and she was like, why is that lady
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: telling her to watch her tone in the same tone
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: you talk to Carlos cause I gotta watch this ship
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: every week. Sorry? Uh sure, whoever I picked the other
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: one is also wrong they're doing the same thing to
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: each other. It's very much watch your wat you call
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: me bitch, or you said you gonna throw me in
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: the river. Well, everybody's wrong, right, So I'm on the
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: side of sense, which was sitting next to you on
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: the couch and not arguing. I think they both very disrespectful.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: And to say, well, you know, and then even when
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Carlos try to throw bail, well didn't your daddy you
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: said yell at you? Is that why you? I said, now,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: we're not doing this. You know. I'm off of the
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: mental health questions, but I would have do the Claudia
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Jordan iro like bitch. We all got the house.
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: Sometimes you was like Carlos.
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: Too much, okay, sometimes what happened when you were seven.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I forbid on, I have a heart is just a bitch,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Carlos and I ain't got you to do with your pappy, Okay.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: I saw two bitches call each other bitches. That's my take.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Colaudia Jordan.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: I usually really like Kimmy, but I was definitely I
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: was more team now, I know, definitely. Yeah, that's why
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: in a different light, this this, and then I'm like, damn,
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: I didn't realize she was so crunt so many times.
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: That she talked so reckless to so many people, and
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: it seemed like, yeah, I.
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: Saw her in a different light. I was like, Okay,
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: I didn't. I guess I wasn't aware of how she
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: be talking. Reason like that is that the thing that
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: she was doing for a long time, because it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: Was a lot, It was a lot.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: I would have her. I would have been okay with this.
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: She talked like she won to get into a fight
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: because like sometimes like she does. And if Nell wasn't
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: I one of them.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: From Baltimore, knee, if he was Baltimore, does she know
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: how to fight?
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: If Nell wasn't on one of them scooters for her
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: knee or leg whatever, we may have had, you know,
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: some action they get the rehab, they'd be riding around.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: Are you talking about the knee the knee scooter? Yeah, schooter?
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: My sister has one, right, don't They don't do that.
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: I wish her well.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: She got in that. She got in that dress. She
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: made it to hair and makeup.
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: I bet you had a picure two on both feet.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: Too.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: They had to do it lay it down because she
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: was in the knee scooter, so they had to do
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: her pedicure.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: They was giving an oil change on their back.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: The way they were screaming, bitch though, how many bitches
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: a drop out?
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: It was so bad. The network said, Carlos, take, it's
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: too much.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of bit nothing, so I'm samassing there
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: was I would say, if I have to count, if
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I have to count, They called each other the b
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: worth ten or times.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: It was so good. It was good. I love it, bitch.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: I was like, this is great.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Theot was next to me to the point being Destiny
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: was like, yep, I got but.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Dustin, are you on Kimmy's side or nail side or
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: on the knee scooter side.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: I'm on the knee and I'm gonna tell you why
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: I'm taking the rest me. God damn it. Okay, that's right, Hey, Nasa,
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I love fuck with that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: But anyway, here's the thing.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Kimmy is one of those people who has come on
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: this show and tried her best not to lose her
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: cool or do anything that she would feel as embarrassing. Right,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: And the problem with operating like that on shows like
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: this is that people can misinterpret your behavior as covert
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: or dirty, you know what I'm saying, or if you're
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: passive aggressive or whatever, when really you're just trying to
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: like not act a fool on TV. That's why I
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: don't give a damn if I'm I've try my best
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: to be nice and cool about everything. But if I
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: have a problem with something, I go ahead and go
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: the fuck off, because then at least we can be
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: clear and you can't be trying to dissect things and
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: turn little behaviors into whatever. No, you know, I'm cussing
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: your ass the fuck out, and you know why. And
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: I just want kemmy to stand in a prime example
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: of that, Neil. Right when Neil was on that stage,
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: she came out there. I believe that when they zipped
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: her up and when she pulled them strings on that thing.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, They.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: Tied her in that. Yeah, that's what she had on
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: some of that. She had a Bridgerton course thatt On
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: under that dress. You know what I'm saying.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: This Nell was sitting up in there and her knee
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: was hurting, please or is it her foot? It's her foot,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: Carlos to her knee, her foot, it's her foot and
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: her foot was hurting.
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: Shit, is it a broken foot or like a sprained ankle.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: It was finna be broken up Kimmy's ass. And she
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: came to that stage ready to dance on one foot,
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: get up on the good foot, good God. And Nyl
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: literally got on there and it was like, the minute
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: you do something that I'm mad about or that pisces
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: me off, I'm going to cuss you the fuck out.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: And I don't think that Kimmy was ready for that
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: type of energy.
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: From now.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Kimmy was trying to have conversations down here, and nobody
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: else on the stage was on that they was ready
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: to cuss her out. So I think that season twelve
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: will be interesting to me. It was the perfect setup
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: for the season twelve arguments between Kimmy and now that
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: I know the good people over at Kingdom Reign and
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Entertainment will make sure that we see and you know,
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: I think that those bitu words may last a little
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: bit longer than the ones that they said on the
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: reunion stage, so because before in previous arguments we've gotten
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: you know, explicit. So I hope that that happens moving forward.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: And I think we have two people, because two people
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: are the two of the best people for that situation.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Because after watching that reunion, Kimmy is going to go
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: into scene differently with new post viewing of that, and
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: I can't wait. So shout out to you and the
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: beautiful people at Kingdom Ring and Carlos Happen.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Shut up Destiny as well, because Destiny said it best.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: She said, Kimmy says things lower, but they're just as nasty,
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: and that still counts. So I actually think Destiny ate
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: with that. And so that's why I'm with Claudia on
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: team Nell. It's like Nell is loud, and I sometimes
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: worry about the vein in her neck and did she
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: take her beat pills and high pretension pills because and her.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: Foot, Yeah, her foot right, like she's fall off if
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: she gets too mad.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: She's direct. Jimmy said a lot of really problematic ship
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: during that reunion and her keep it down here voice
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: that was nasty. So I personally, just because your voices
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: low doesn't mean you know on some.
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: Bullshit that's true, because sometimes yeah, they be mumblings up
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: undeath that breath and be real shady.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: I kind of like that kind of shade sometimes it's good.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: For television shows where they don't hit people.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: With your words.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: So I want to get into the conversation hold your
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: horses and your he bells, Blue and Claudia, because this
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: is the conversation of.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: The conversations n das n DA's NDAs.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: All right, So what came up again this season is
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: the fact that Martel is still saying that he was
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: witnessed to Maurice and Marcel Scott having an affair on
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: their wives with a woman or two in Las Vegas,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and it was a conversation about NDA's in addition to
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: whether or not this was true, because you know, Maurice said,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: you know this season, what does my geek look like?
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Because apparently it's so distinctive for the ladies. I tried
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: to get answers from him about it. I was doing
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: my job as a journalist, Hey, Porsha, I was unfortunately
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: not getting anywhere with it, and I knew when to
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: stop before it became an hr issue.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: But that being said, Claudia stigning with you.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: The conversations that is all over Twitter and TikTok is.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: People said Martel might be a liar, but he's not
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: lying about this. His story never changed. He saw what
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: he saw, and they started to question whether or not
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Kimmy and Teacher are just like, look, we know the truth,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: but the one that we ain't gonna do is rebuilding
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: on the show, Claudia, what do you.
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: Think, Well, even a broken clock is right twice a
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: day and as much of a narc.
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: I think Martella is a liar.
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: I think he is, and I think he's wicked. I
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: think he's very good at being bad. I think he's
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: done a lot of dirty things to people himself. So
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: it's almost like for some people's like, oh, well Martell
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: said it, but yeah, I actually do believe him.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: In this case.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: I do believe that there was some cheating going on
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: the way the men answered, and I think the women
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: know it because the way they answered tells me that
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: they know it too, but they don't want to embarrass
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: and put everything on front street on the show.
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: That's what it looked like.
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: It looked like for a minute, they almost gave off
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: pickknees a little bit, like not want to say it
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: on the show, protecting their husbands. And I get it,
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: but you everybody else's business is out there, Yours going
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: to be out there too. Okay, so if you want
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: to keep it a buck, you would actually look like
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: a bigger boss and a stronger relationship if you go.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: You know what he told me. We talked about it.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: It happened. But all this tell me what my dick
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: looks like?
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: Like, do you really believe his dick is just so
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: iconic and just so different than all the billions of
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: dicks out there that it, well, you would never be
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: able to identify this rare dick that only occurs in
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: the certain mountain topographies and certain parts of the country
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: of the world. I just don't see him having this
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: thing that's like, oh my god, butterflies and rainbows. I
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: just don't think that he has this unidentifiable.
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: Unique dick.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: And that was such a and every time he pulls
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: it out to you here alphable Yale.
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And the way they answer the questions, it wasn't
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: like no, it was like, but what's my dick look like?
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: That is divergent one of deflecting one on one, like
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: you know, you find one thing you can like stand
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: on where you don't feel like really fight you you
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: pick one thing.
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: No, No, we didn't have it.
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: That that it happened during the day, whatever the big
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: thing come on, and you know, yeah, I believe it
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: definitely happened.
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: I believe this is one time that Martell is telling
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: the truth. But it's dick.
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: I don't think you have the iconic, memorable vitiligo huge
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: head or he wants us to think.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: It's just so big and Kimmy just.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Just turned the left.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: It's not that serious.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: That's not rare, you guys. It's it's really not rare.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Blue to loose my I hate it here.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Let me just tell you that whole scene. First of all,
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: it was a confession. Okay, cue the usher. Every word
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: out their mouth was like, yeah, we did that ship.
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: They didn't train with Martel.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Honestly, it was given team like whoop there. It is
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: like freaking ninety type of shit. I'm like, how long
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: have you been doing this as the brothers doing this
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: shit together?
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Well after this, after this, you know, you brought that up.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Martel alleged alleged that.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: The women they were with were not his tithe they
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: were busted and he let them do it, and that's
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: why he left the scene of the crime.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Allegedly wanted him.
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: They wanted him they wanted him.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so answer your.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Question that one thousand percent believe him, a thousand percent believing.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: You know why my body was stunned because my body
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: has never believed him. I've never heard anything coming on
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Martell's mouth that my body's been like, yes, I recognize
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: this as truth. So it was a foreign feeling. I
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: was like, is this is he telling the truth? For
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: once it felt bizarre. It was obviously what's all the truth?
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: And also even the way the brothers were joking, there
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: was a distinct lightheartedness that fuck boys have when you're
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: about to disrupt the card and so everything's fine, Everything's fine,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: ha ha, crack a joke. But my Dick looked like,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: I know that, little Claudia. We both know it. Well
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: if y'all know it too. There's a certain lightness, like
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: they overperformed lightness when someone's been caught on the nose,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: so that you're thinking, well, if it was a big deal,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: they would care more. They one hundred percent did it.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: I had no part of me things that didn't do it.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: My thing is though, with Kimmy in particular, I thought
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: it was bizarre because we had just seen that clip
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: of her earlier in the reunion where she was talking
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: about how it was still a deal breaking for her,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: but then she was waffling even as she was saying it.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: I think we now have our answer. I don't think
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: we have to ever do the whole is it a
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: deal breaker thing? We never have to ask that. Well,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Carl's problem still will, but I never have to ask.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: That anymore unless unless, unless it's like approved, because Carlos, yeah, all.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Right, I know you love all the girls. But I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: do think that the man saw what he saw, and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: the reason why he couldn't tell you what your penis
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: looked like because it was inside somebody. Remember that you
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: cannot penis while it's inside somebody. That's why he couldn't
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: tell you what it looked like. Because you were stopping
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: that lady. And if your wife is okay with it,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: it's okay. Then the words of when you said it's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: not right, but it's okay, and if your wife will
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: take you back, who are and the words of justin,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: who am I to judged? Black love? All that stuff?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: What a weird defense? What's my thing? What's it looked like?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: What's a that's a weird like? Was he was he
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: up in it too, like was he that close? Which
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: is another weird thing. And I also think it's very weird.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm not a man, but two brothers
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: like that. They like, I don't know, it's it's it's.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: Gross, okay, so full stop.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: Number One, people believe Martell because of the share audacity
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: to say to somebody, you cheated on your wife. I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: was there, and you know I know the truth about it, right,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: that's our dasis. People believe that, and I almost would
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: have believed it too, based on that nature alone, until
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: I saw that video that he posted where him and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: his baby mom right Arion, we're interviewing that lady that
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: was obviously lying and looked like she was on.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Track for something.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Well, just put it like that,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: but she yes, I love you, brother, I don't want
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: to ruin your show.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: But that lady was not believable. Number one. They it
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: looked like she was hired.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: Martell and his baby mom looked way too giddy and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: excited interviewing her, asking those questions.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: It was in a back room set up very cheap,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: horrible lights.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: It looked like when you take a lamp shade off
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: of a lamp and just turn it on and have
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: the bull that's what the lighting looked like.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: So I don't believe it based on that.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Number two, Martella is a literal, bona fide certified liar.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: And not only is he a liar, he has shown
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: himself on the course of this show to be the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: type of person that will take something and turn it
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: into whatever he needed to be for the sake of
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: making his point of argument. Right now, Marceau and Maurice
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: are not making it easy to defend them or to say, hey,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Martella is lying, because they won't fucking say they didn't
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: do it. Marceau has been a little bit more direct
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: and his dialogue and language concerning this matter, saying, Yo,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: Martella is lying.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying whatever. Maurice is doing this
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: default setting that he has to speak in parables and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: similes and metaphors and shit and tell all these stories
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: and give illustrations to guide you to a conclusion, as
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: opposed to just speaking directly to the issue and saying, hey,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: I didn't do that.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: You're lying, and I'm gonna beat your motherfucking ass if
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: you say that shit again. About me or and I'm
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: an attorney and I'm gonna sue the taint out from
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: in between your asshole and your balls if you say
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: that about me one more time.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: You have to get serious with people, say they know
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: you're not playing, and we haven't seen a reaction for Maurice,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: and so that.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: Begets that sort of seriousness in their response to a
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: very serious allegation. Let's also add that Martel has a
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: bone to pick with everybody because he's the one who
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: got embarrassed out of the entire cast by his actions
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: becoming public right, Martel has been subject to appropriate judgment
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: from the fans, from viewers, from everybody based on him
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: cheating on Melody and doing it again.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: And then gaslighting her.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Act like he don't give a fuck being shameless when
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: he's doing shameful shit. We know this is Martel, so
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: he's giddy and excited to try to find somebody else
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: to be guilty of something else, so that he's not
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: the only one that has been wrong. There's that too.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of layers here. But to fix all
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: of this, Maurice and MARSONI to be like, we did
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: not do that. You're a fucking liar, and there's a
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: consequence for you making that sort of alligate false allegation
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: against us. Until that happens, everybody will continue to believe
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: Martell about this because it's the confirmation of a suspicion
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: that people have had since season one, episode fucking one
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: about Marceau and Maurice cheating on Laticia and Kenny.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: And the way they were defending themselves, I agree with you,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: justin and the way they were defending.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: The way they.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, he's good looking looking, but.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I in real life, right, if you really care
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: about the feeling of your partner and someone is on TV,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: really standing on business saying that they cheated, they'ren't even
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 7: like they're even trying to comfort their wives. The way
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: they were like defending they were just like saying, goofy stuff.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: They weren't like if someone who falsely accused me of
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 7: cheating on my man, he's right next to me and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: the world is watching, I'm going to be looking at
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: him like, y'all, it's not true.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: You know that, lion, it's not true. I'll prove it
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: to you. It wasn't like that.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: It was more like for them it was more, and
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: they did they like you said, there was no threat
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: and of suing you're a lawyer, they did not to me,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: they did not.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: They no direct response, no clear, direct, blatant addressing of
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: the question, which is not all this fluff shit.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: It's that you're lying that never happened.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: And if you keep saying that shit, here's the consequence
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: that we ever got that with you guys.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Dustin, you just okay. So I agree with what Dustin said,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: and for me, it's the reason why I actually believe Martel,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: not the reason I don't believe him, though. Okay, who
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: better to do dirty shit with than someone like Martel,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: who you know, number one, you think he's down for
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: the clown and he even for you think he's down
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: for it right. And number two, if he speaks up,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: nobody will believe him. For all the reasons that Dustin
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: eloquently did. I have known so many people who have
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: intentionally chosen people like Martel to do dirty shit with
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: because they are people like Martel, and I believe they
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: chose Martel to do this with is because the micro expressions.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Every time Carlos asked them, they would smile first and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: then have to bring it down and turn it into
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: a joke. To the micro expressions were screaming, we did
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: this shit, but we can't believe this nigga is squealing
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: on us. We thought you, because you're a dirty bird,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: we're the perfect person to do this with. And it
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: never occurred to us that because we picked the wrong
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: bitch and we didn't pick somebody that you wanted to
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: sleep with. Two now you're our op And rather than
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: being a co conspirator, I actually believe them because it's Martel,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: because who better to do this with. And honestly, and
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: I think Claudia Ustin both said this. It's not based
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: only Martel, it's based on them. Their reactions are screaming,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: they're stunned that you're narking on us because you're a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: dirty bitch that we were supposed to get this off
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: on you. You're the one person that we're supposed to
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: be able to do this around, and now you're snitching
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: on this. And I actually think because he's never had
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: a good gotcha, that's why he's giddy and doing basement
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: interviews and shit, He's like, I finally got me a fish,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: I finally got me a real one. For once I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: can tell the truth and people are like, we don't
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: believe because it's it's.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: Like I would have whooped martel ass flat out. I'm
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: just gonna say it.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: I would have been across that stage whooping Martel's ass
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: up out of that Joe say Bank suit that he
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: bought for the reunion when he was late.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: I would have whooped his ass because you don't get
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: to say, that's.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: A direct You cheated on your wife in front of me,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: is a direct, clear allegation. Me personally, I would have
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: cleared that ship up and until them niggas Marceau and Martel,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, Marceau and Maurice react in a way that
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: it's clear and direct. Everybody's gonna believe in Martel.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: Everybody's believe.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: I think that's shocked he's snitching.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: They're like like a group of holes.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 7: If they all went on a trip, a girl's trip,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 7: and they all got boyfriends, back of the house and tub.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: Of them, I'll be back. I'm trying to get ready
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: for Elama.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: You know, we all get down like that, how daring.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: You're right, Blue, I agree.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: With that, but I don't know they did something that weekend.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: I think Cauda. We know when men have that face
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: with oh you you're close, but you're because you're close,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: they're smiling, they're smirking, but you're far enough away where
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: they can gaslight you. Yes, I look.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's a story that we've been told.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 7: I think it's something else. I think they did do
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 7: something that weekend. They did a few things that weekend.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: That's what I think. And a little bit and they're like, ooh,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: you almost told the whole story. You look, bit.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm like. I'm not just talking about now.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I did
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: something else.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Switching face. I'm sorry. Straight man have the stretch and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: straight man, you have a snitching face.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: So so so the five straight Man watch you can
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: see it.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: No, okay, Claudia, can you do it? It's like, did
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: you say, did you sleep with your co worker? Oh?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: Wait, am I supposed to be the one that really
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: cheated you?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: The why in did you sleep with your coworker? You
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: know she likes.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sleeping with a coworker. I don't sleep
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: with coworker.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 7: With someone else, right, It's that it's like like that
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: smile like you laugh because you're like you're thinking about
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: the thing.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: But I can.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 7: I can stand on the one fat active it that
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 7: isn't true, but the action is true, but not the person.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: That's what.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Great men do, this thing where they look away they
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: smirk because they're by what you got wrong? Why? Right?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: This is this right here?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Here? You go?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, come on.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Time he did right in your face, Carlos for the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: entire time.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Martell.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: He need to be careful though. He got some stuff
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: coming down the pipe for him. You heard, you heard it,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: you heard it here first. He got some stuff coming down.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: And we still don't care. How much more shame can
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: he be?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: You had.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: Divorce, you have the scarlet letter.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: It's worse than all of that. Okay, it's your favorite.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I don't have a favorite of all the girls.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: He's a great reality star there going about his actions.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: Martella is an incredible reality and do a job being
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: a villain. He does a great job playing the villain
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: on Love and Mary of Tounsville.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 6: But he is a liar.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: You want to get into Maurice's d U I story.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on starting with U Blue, so
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Maurice d Ui story. He was not he was found.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: It was dismissed. I'm sorry the case was dismissed. Kimmy
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: said that she woke up four or five in the morning,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: she didn't see him. She went back to sleep. I did,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: I said, do you think he was doing anything? She
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: said no, I asked miss Nell. Miss Nell said, Look,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest as somebody who experienced in fidelity
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: with my husband. A woman knows when the man is
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: doing something. I believe that Kimmy's gonna say no to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: say no, she knows what really happened. I don't believe
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: what they're saying. I think it's bs. They're not being
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: transparent and she knows what's up.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Blue. Do you agree with that?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: I think she pulled her Rick James where Kimmy agreed
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: with that two seconds later and didn't even realize it.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Like she started off I saying I don't care. I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: didn't notice and I didn't care to. Yeah, I know
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: he'd be growning his feet on my couch like she
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: was like, well, I've been saying for years on the
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: record that I don't like when he does X, Y
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: and Z and he's outside. I'm like, wait, you just
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: you just switched it up in the middle of the sentence.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: So I have to play that back. I have to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: play a couple of these seats back because the girls
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: goes zero to sixty very fast.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: Miss Nell was trying her best to answer a messy
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: question Carlo Carlo. She set that lady up and she said,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: hypothesize based on my personal experience, this is my hypothesis.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: And I also think it's not my place to say
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: because this is her business and it's her life, and
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: that she she likes it. I loved it, right. I
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: do like that Miss tried to show a little bit
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: of grace as someone of the deal what fidelity is like.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: I will say this, though, I think Kimmy does seem tired.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: She seems tired certain parts in the reunion, like there
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: are certain things that she's kind of made peace with
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: that she doesn't want to talk to us about. She
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: seems tired. Dust. Did you want to say something to that?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: I do, sister, tap me in thank you.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: She seemed tired because Kimmy was not ready for Nell.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: Nell came on that stage and literally rolled Kimmy like
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: some Dice and Kimmy was not prepared for that, and so,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: like I said, I think that'll be the setup for
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: a great season twelve. The first point that I want
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: to make is that Carlos King hosted the fuck out
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: of that Love and mary Tunsville reunion. You always do
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: a great job, but this was like, this was exceptional.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: Came nobody, nobody, okay on the face of the Earth
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: reunion for loving Mary's Huntsville like you can. So let's
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: just let that be said.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: Second of all, I think.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: That Kimmy has been clear that she don't give a
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: fuck Maurice be out. Why everybody can't just accept that right,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: Like y'all are waiting for her to admit that he
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: was out with a woman when he crashed that car
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: and all this other shit. No, the nigga was drunk
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: allegedly and the charges were dismissed. Factually, that's the beginning
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: and end, you know what I'm saying. And I think,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: like Blue, she did kind of double down on it
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: and up inadvertently like saying what Nel said, Yes, Maurice
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: was out late, Kimmy did wake up, look at the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: clock at three o'clock and went back to sleep because
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: she don't give a fuck. He was outside, and that's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: just what it is. You know what I'm saying. People
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: are waiting for this smoking gun of guy, that's it,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: moment of discovery, but it's just not gonna happen. They
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: have the type of relationship where it's normal and acceptable
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: for him to be out with his friends or whatever
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: until four o'clock or whatever time. He don't have a curfew.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: That may not work with most people's relationships. Most people
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: want to be more certain about the whereabouts of their partner.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: But there's a lot of people on this earth that
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: don't give a damn about that. They have enough trust
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: where if it comes out, it comes out. If he
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: was gone, he was just gone. It's just another goddamn
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: situation that this happens another night for them, you know
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like he was just out that night,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: and I get that, and I feel like Kimmy was
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: honest about that, So I kind of just don't see you.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Do you think.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Maurice doing those hours was out doing something with another
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: woman or.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Inappropriate?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Nope? I think as inappropriate as a god.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: Was probably been being in a bar and like engaging
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: in light flirtatous banner with people at the bar or whatever,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: and then you know, I'm married, whatever, and chill, you
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: But they flirt a little bit, y'all know how the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: game go.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: I think it was that that those are the things,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: Those are the dangers that people are fearful of when
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: their partner is out in the social setting like that,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: where they can be flirting with other people or enticed
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: to participate in something that goes against their boundaries. But
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: for some people, they don't care that their partner hangs out.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: But Dustin, do you believe that he wasn't drunk and
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: that he hit a billy go and then and then
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: a lighthouse.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: I believe he hit all that and that he was drunk.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: That's what I think. What the court stuff says or whatever.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: I know he was.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: The charges against him were dismissed. I'm not clear on
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: what those charges were, but I definitely believe he was
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: all drinking and he hit all that stuff. And I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: would have laughed at that table too, y'all know me.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: I would have looked at y'all and made y'all laugh
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: by the way I was laughing, you know, what I'm saying.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: So like.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: Dismissed. Being dismissed doesn't mean that you didn't do it.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: It just was dismissed.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't give him the respect of saying it was dismissed,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: because it was miss I think the.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: Reason why Kimmy didn't trip about, like she looked at
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 7: the clock and rolled back over.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: And she's sicking him sucking on her so much.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 7: And if you're over having sex with your man so many,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 7: like he's hyper sexual, he wants to do it a
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 7: hundred times a week whatever, and she already he's.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: Wearing her out all through she was sick and all that.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 7: And when you're in that state of mind your man,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 7: and she's already turned off by his soft hand activities
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: and not like taking a ham and a nail anymore,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 7: when you have a night off and you just look,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 7: oh good, he ain't here because I was in a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 7: pretent I was sleeping and got home anyways, so we
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 7: get the reaction. You know, she's probably like, I'm good
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 7: to go do something because I'm anyways.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: I mean that's a very plausible.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: Like I said, she's tired, She's tired.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: The idea of waking up its fab boarding, and your
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: first thought is okay.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: Good, I've done that before. You checked out our sticking it.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: You're like you're glad, like you're like or pretending to
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: be sleep.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 7: When they get home late, you're like, oh, he's spinding
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 7: to come home drunk and want to hump on me
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 7: with your old ladies.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: In the comments, y'all know what I'm saying. You know
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 6: this is true. We've all been in relationships.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 7: Towards the end, You're like, I hope he doesn't, right,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 7: and then he come up like you're just like you
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: just want to pretend you're sleeping, right, he nugging you,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 7: nudging you, You're like acting like you did Yes, she.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: Probably she probably wanted to break.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: I've never done that, Claudia. I'd be hunching to the end.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: I don't ye ready than me, because I would have
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: had a pad lock on my panties, you know, like
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: them come forward to I had a little lock on
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: my ship.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 6: You know, when you're when you're mentally out of when
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 6: you're like down, you over it, or you're just sick
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: of it. Sometimes it's like enough, we already did it.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 7: Enough.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: I'm still swollen from two days ago. Like wet you
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: want to do it? Eight times and one night?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: Oh y'all?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Before we get to Atlanta, starting with New Claudia, one
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: of the big things that happen and was the conversation
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: between Marceau and Leticia about the state of their marriage
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: as it currently stands. Latitia's guy has two degrees and
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: she was a housewife, and what she's trying to do
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: is find her plays not only in the family business,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: but just in life. And the conversation then turned to
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: whether or not in this era of boss women, right,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: is Tsha falling down the path of being a boss
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: check because that's what society wants to build, versus.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Doing something that she does love, which is being a mom.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Or do you think that Marceau is not listening to her,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: that she wants more out of life, and yes he
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: works hard and does all these great things for him
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: in the family, but that he should find a way
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: to also insert his wife and his business endeavor.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: I think they're not listening to each other, and it's
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: a sad thing.
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  Speaker 5: Watch.
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  Speaker 7: Actually, I understand she set up as well. She was
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 7: had her degrees, everything, and then she was a mom.
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  Speaker 7: She was happy, But I hear this from my friends
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 7: that are moms.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: They have this conflict.
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  Speaker 7: I love being a mom, but then you also feel
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  Speaker 7: invisible as far as like the things, as far as
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 7: your accomplishments. I think this is a thing that Aisha
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 7: Curry gets criticized for when she ever speaks on anything
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 7: like sometimes I wonder what I could have been if
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: I didn't if I wasn't just a mom.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: I love my life. And then she gets dragged for.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 7: Want having How dare you want to still see what
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 7: you could accomplish when you have a great husband, wealth,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 7: you have a house. Yeah this to that you can
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 7: still that doesn't make you a bad woman or a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 7: bad wife to still want those things and crusty. I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 7: say this as someone that she got in my nerves
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 7: this entire reunion, okay and most of the season.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: But I do understand like how that feels. And then
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: he's not listening to her say.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 7: I love this, I love the house, I love this,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 7: I love that, but a part of me still wants
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 7: to feel included. And when he pushed it around of
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 7: the business that to me, women can look at being
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 7: included in business as a form of intimate See, I
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 7: would like you still value my opinion, you value my feedback.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 7: And when he's like, well, you should be happy and
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: content with just being a mom, she's feeling like diminished.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: I think I'm assuming that's let me not say what
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 7: she's feeling. I would assume that, and so I get it.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 7: I think he's not. He's like, yeah, yeah, you got
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: the big house. You should be happy with all that.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 7: And she's like, you're not listening to me.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: That's not enough. I want I want it all. So
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know, they seem like they are not listening
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  Speaker 6: to each other at all.
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  Speaker 4: Justin yeah, full stuff. For me, I didn't like the
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: conversation at all. I thought that it was it was
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: weird that we sitting on this stage discussing. Of course,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm not talking about Torulo, so I'm just
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: saying we sitting on this stage, I know, but just
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: you know, let me be clear for these motherfuckers. Sorry,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: but but but we're sitting on this stage and discussing
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: whether or not it's okay for a woman to have
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: ambitions and want to have a career.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: What the fuck are we doing here? Right?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: You know me, I don't jail with the traditional antiquated
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: gender o bullshit, And I don't understand why it would
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  Speaker 4: even be questioned that she elected of her own free
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: will right to pursue a career in a traditional way.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: Why are we even discussing that, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Like that?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: For me was crazy.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: And as a person that's been watching this show from
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: season one, episode one, I liked her better after she
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: went back to school. Okay, when Latista Scott went back
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: to school and started getting some independence and finding her voice,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: I enjoyed her better on television.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: So I thought that it was crazy that this woman
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: is literally sitting up here crying.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: Take how you feel out about her on the show
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: or whatever, and just look at it from the zoom
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: out a little bit, right, and look at it for
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: what it is. She's sitting on this stage crying because
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: y'all have made her feel bad about wanting to get
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: a goddamn job instead of being a stay at home
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: mom when her kids have yet to be neglected. We
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: have not one time seen her kids suffering or lacking
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: on this show from her decisions to pursue traditional employment. Right,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: what are we talking about here? She's not a bad mom,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: and the fact that she has been brought to tears
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: because people are telling her, well, you are happier when
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: you just stayed at home. That's not up to you
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: to determine that's up. We should be asking Latitia, were
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: you happier when you were at home as a stay
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: home mom? Were you happier then, instead of determining that
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: for her. So, whether you like latitsa Scott or not
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: or whatever the fuck? I just thought it was crazy.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: And I think that Marceau's needs can be met at
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: the same time as Letitia finds fulfillment through whatever her
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: career pursuits are.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: That's how I feel he.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: Was diminishing her contributions.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: Have a different view of that conversation, but it's probably
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: based more on business than gender. I have a friend
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: who is Letitia Scott, and she watched the show so
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: hey for I'm like your name, don't worry she when
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: I started my business, she said very much how much
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: she went to work with me? Right, and all my
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: friends who want to work with me end up working
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: with me. She didn't, you know why. She found out
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: the hard way that even though she likes the semblance
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: of a boss babe, she actually is better suited for
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: being a mom and being a stay at home mom. Right.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: And one of the things that made me pause on
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: feeling like he was gaslighting her was when he said,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: you're an amazing mother, and when we do business together,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: you don't show up with that same hunger x Y
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: and Z. I've hired friends and family who, like Leticia,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: wanted so bad Blue. We see what you're doing, we
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: want to help you build your empire. And then it
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: was time to go to work, and they like the
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: optics more than the actual work. And that happens a
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: lot with women, in particular to Claudia's point, who will think,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: oh my god, the grass is greener. I love being
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: a stay at home mom. I'm great with these kids.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: I'm the business manager of this family. But let's say
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: season one, because I watched Sason one and then I
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: started watching the current season. In my mind, I'm still
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: stuck in season one because that's the last one that
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: I watched before I came on the show. I remember
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: her relationship with Melody Hope, right. I personally think that
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: she thinks the archetype of Melody is very, very impressive,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: and then even add Destiny to the mix. She finds
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: women like Melody and Destiny very impressive, and when she's
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: feeling unfulfilled, she assumes, maybe I'll feel good if I
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: act like one of them. But then to her husband's point,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: when she gets in the office, she doesn't have the
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: thing right, like that passion that you have to have
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: for business to kill what you eat in order to ascend.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: I don't actually think she has it. It's making me
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: feel like Shemiah where you say that it's feeling very
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: sami ad Jason to me, where you're really good at
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: this thing, but your heart kind of wants this other
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: thing that you might not be as good at it,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: but your your default settings is also very valid. So
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: I actually think I'm an cut hymnse Beale. I think
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: he's saying, I played along and let you do business
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: with me, and you're not really into it and I
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: have real business to do.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: I agree, and Blue, you're on the money. And this
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: is where so I already identified where they were at.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: For here's where Latista Scott is at fault. She did
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: not come to the table with a specific passion, a specific.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: Plan or whatever. This whole notion of ass or whatever
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: the fuck is stupid because it is. It is vague.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: It's generic and vague, and it plays into a popular
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: profile that people that is attractive to people that are stupid.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: Right if Latista Scott would have come to the table
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: and say, hey, you know, I love medicine and my
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: life's dream, my life's work is to save lives in
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: the hospital.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: I've always wanted to be a doctor. We're just using
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: it as an example.
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  Speaker 4: Because I love medicine so much, I have to pursue
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: this passion.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that you're you are you
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: are you.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: It's received in a way where people take you seriously
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: as opposed to just saying I just.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: Want to do something.
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  Speaker 3: I want to be a business lady.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: Like Blue said.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: Then when Marceau does put you in position right like okay,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: we want to do something, well do this and you underperform,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: then it's like I don't even take you seriously anyway,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: take your ass back into the other role that you
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: were in.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: So I agree, explain that.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: Let me think of this. I was like Dustin and
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Claudia are right, she's an excellent mother, but she yearns
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: for the other. And Claudie, we all have female friends
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: like this who did in one world and they come
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: at the other world. I thought that I wanted to
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: be a housewife. I realized I would start taking meetings
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: in the middle of dinner. I don't think I meant
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: for that. I could be a work from home mom.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: But the the passion that Latitia doesn't have. I have
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: it for work, she has it for home, and I
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: think she wants both. But she's excellent in the place
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: where she already is. I think.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 7: Real quick, I just think that she doesn't maybe that
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 7: she doesn't really want to do the work of being
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: a boss lady.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: But I do think she wants to be respected. Melody. Yeah,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: Melody so bad that she's thinking when.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 7: Melodie's gone now she said, I think she's like, that's
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 7: I should step up into that the star and that
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: the star had the business, the relationship, the drama, that everything,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 7: it seems like, and that's probably why she's not succeeding
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 7: at business, because it's not a passion, like you said, Blue,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 7: it's just it's the position.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: It's the position, and that So to to wrap things up,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the conversation on the
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: stage because to me, the reason why I love this
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: show so much is because we get to talk about
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: things that I feel like it's so universal and there
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: is this era right of the boss check boss women
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah and what and you two I'm
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: sure can attest to this too. All of my friends
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: I went to college with intern with out of college career,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: all of them, not just one or two. They all
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: said to me, if they could live life all over again,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: they would have chipped at this ambition that they were
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: raised to be and they would have desire to have
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: kids earlier on the man earlier, they would all of
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: that drive would have been probably split to also find
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: the husband and the child, because they all said to me, Carlos,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: we're in our forties and we don't have a kid
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: or a man.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: And you know a lot of them have regret.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: The thing with Tsha, and the reason why I wanted
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: to act context on stage is two seasons ago, Tsha,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: out of her own mouth, said I miss being a mom.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: My kids are growing up, I miss being a mom.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: I miss staying at home with them, and I remember
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: watching it.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: So my.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Added value to the conversation was, out of your own mouth,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: you said you miss being.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: A mom of your life.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: To me, it's the fact that your life now is
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: financially in a great place to where you get to
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: if you based on your own admission, you get to
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: be a mom. And her kids are wonderful spoiler alert
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: this season her son freshman year in college four point
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: zho GPA.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: Wonderful, wonderful.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: She's an excellent mother, right, And.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: I will say this as somebody who's done the show,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: since obviously they won, I personally have never seen t Sha,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, have that same.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: Passion for the work. And that's why for me, I
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: want to hurt it.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Know, based on my relationship with my friends, like, girl,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: thank god you don't have to work, and because you
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: miss being a mom, be a mom, stay at home,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: And she's like, but I want to do both.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: And I just said, baby, one thing Oprah said, you
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: can have it all, but not all at once.
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  Speaker 4: Let's just make sure that she needs Latissa Scott since
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: she watching what you need to make sure that you're
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: very specific about your needs and wants, because this conversation
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: has turned into a woman want should a woman work
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: or stay home.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: With the kids?
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: And that is not I think healthy, right, I think
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: that it should be about her indecisiveness as opposed to
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: the fact that they as opposed to the question being
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: whether or not a woman should work or see this,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: White women need to stay at home.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: They don't never know what the fuck they want trying
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: to do. No, you know what I'm saying. It goes
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: into that territory, and I hate all of that talk.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: I hate that you.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: Don't want to add context to it because it wasn't
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: like you from the other My thing was. And that's
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: why I just say, basically what she said out of
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: her own mouth. I miss being at home. And I
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: was like, well, girl, go back home. You know, you
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: don't have to work, which is which is a huge
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: privilege and a blessing. But you're right, Dustin, I want
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: to make sure that there wasn't a conversation about pick
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: or two.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: Stay at home or working. It was more so like
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: when you're in a position where you really loving a
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: mom and you miss it and you got two degrees.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 10: Hey, Wendy, you know, yeah, yeah, you can do both,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 10: but you have to be passionate about both.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 7: That's what it is, because people that are passionate about
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 7: it make it work. If you're trying to just causeplay
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 7: with someone else, or do it because you're on a
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 7: show and there's a lot of pressure. I get that,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 7: where you got to see make your all things to everybody, right,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 7: I get that. So maybe this show is in her head,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: like people are watching, I gotta be the good mom,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 7: the great wife, and the boss bitch.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: You don't have to yeah, I have to be all
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: of it, just that you like.
• 1:33:00
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• 1:33:06
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