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Paul FINALLY drives the BYD Atto 3, Gordie complains about something and Paul's press junket to Serbia! · The Driver's Show

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: So we've promised everyone an exciting announcement and I can
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: tell it's. Look, I don't know if you want to
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: say this or I should say this, but Paul's getting
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: replaced by Trevor Long and and it's about time. But
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: seriously big announcement. I pulled some strings and I sent
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: over a by d AT O three to the Car
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: Expert studios in the Docklins and like, honestly, I wish
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: I filmed it because Paul was out the front and
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: it was like one of those tiktoks where you buy
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: your mama car and she's crying, and he was crying,
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: and he had a stiffy, which was weird, and like
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: he looked at me and you genuinely said thank you,
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: thank you so much.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's actually precisely what happened, literally down to the stiffy. No,
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: I did actually finally drive the byd AT O three
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm pleased to report that it isn't terrible.
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: I actually thought it was going to be not great.
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: No, I discovered you thought it wasn't going to be
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: great because you weren't invited to the launch. You didn't
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: get any correspondence from BYD they hate your guts rightly,
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: So you thought it was going to be crap because
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: you weren't the first in Australia to drive it, like
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: neither were you bother.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I was actually pretty impressive. I stand by
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: my comments about the interior. I think those guitar string
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: things are stupid and the design.
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: Is just not that great.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: But it's put together really well and the materials inside
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: the cabin are fantastic and for that price you would
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: never expect it to be as good as it iss
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: really well. That it is let down by the tires,
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: I thought they were.
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: Pretty shitty O the Batman's Yeah.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: I mean it's never heard of the brand, all the
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: tires and you can tell when you drive it. But
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: outside of that, it actually handles nicely. It's got plenty
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: of go the charging tech and infrastructure is good.
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was really quite impressive.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: That so one thing that they're in a bit of
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: hot water in at the moment, and we really can't
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: get any answers on this. I realized when we were
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: reviewing the car that in the middle seat in the
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: second row there was no tie down point for a
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: baby seat, and in Australia, if you sell. Generally, if
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: you sell a five seat vehicle, it has to have
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: tight downd points for baby seats in all three positions
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: across the second row. It's the whole reason Honda couldn't
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: sell the HRV is a five seat or in Australia
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: because they didn't have tied ouns.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, because I'm like, I put
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: my kid in this car legally, don't worry. Yes, but
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. In the middle seat. So
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: it's got the middle what do they call it tether points.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: For Yeah, so IO fix on the up board seats
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: and then the top ten points in the three positions,
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: but this didn't have it in the center. So anyway,
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: we spoke about it on our video review and you
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: can check that out on YouTube. And one of the
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: complications is for them to get a five star safety rating,
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: they have to have that in Australia. So the car
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: has been awarded a five star rating everywhere but Australia.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: So they're currently working on figuring out how that got
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: past the authorities because they check all this stuff before
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: the cars were imported. There is a top ten point
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: in the middle, but it's very hard to find and
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: not very accessible, and then part of the rules are
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: that it is accessible, so they're working on sorting that
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: out at the moment. But look outside of that, I
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: genuinely thought the car was pretty good. And while we
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: had the car, it came with it over the air
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: update that added maps and Spotify and all this other
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: stuff to the screen, which I thought was pretty.
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: Cool as well.
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: So voice command too.
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: And voice commands which you really didn't work that well.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: I tried calling people and it just wouldn't work because
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: for some reason their computer joined all the names together.
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: So when I would call you, know, not that I
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: ever would call you, but Gaudy.
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: Waters, it would basically not find you.
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: And then if I manually went and found you, it
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: would be Gaudy Waters hard up. I'd have to pronounce
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: it as one word, probably just a bug.
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: But you called me four times crying today. So what
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: did you have to say if you were in your
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: by d at O three? What would you say? You'd
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: have to go at O three? Goody words?
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much, just really fast.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: I told you I had to go at this, and
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: I actually said, hey, Google, say how do you say
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: at O three? Turn on the air conditioning in Mandarin,
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: and it worked as you get, as you got Google
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: say it. Maybe you've just got an annoying voice.
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think that is part of it.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: Or if I said it in Serbian or something, maybe
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: that would have been better.
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: I would have loved that. That would be cool. So
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: b one day, Atto three, we got there. It's good.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: It's good, Yeah it is. It is good, and for
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: the price, it is excellent value for money. I cannot
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: understand why you would spend an extra I think it's
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: literally like fifteen or twenty grand for a Nissan Leaf.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: Might get an addo three just to piss you off.
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: And every now and then I'm going to call you
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: up and I'm just going to play you a song
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: with my side pocket doors. Hey, Paul, do you like
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: zz Top?
• 5:36
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: Anyway, enough of the announcements. How are you?
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: I'm good.
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: I've just come back from Denmark and Slovenia and Serbia
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: and Croatia and then Denver just before that.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: So and how did your organ harvesting trafficking expedition go?
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: I tell you what if you thought drivers in Sydney
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: and Melbourne were bad for a cruise around Serbia because
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: they are absolute maniacs. I almost got taken out like
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: three times by people that were probably absolutely maggeted by
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: the wheel at nighttime. So we are very fortunate in Australia.
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: The other thing I had to be very careful of
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: as well. I had to rent a car in Serbia.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: Oh they are I shouldn't say this, but some of
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: them are very dodgy. And I took about a thousand
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: photos of the car, went to leave and noticed too
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: like enormous dents in the boot of this car that
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: I couldn't quite see based on the angle and how
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: close it was to the wall.
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: And thankful I noticed them because I when I.
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: Returned the car, they would have hit my credit card
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: up for another five grand of fees and damages.
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: So what was your car of choice in Serbia? Was
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: it a Nissen cartwheel or a.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: It was literally a horse and a cart. You know,
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: you have little feeding stations. Now. I ended up in
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: a Mercedes Ben's B Class, which was not as shit
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: as I thought it was going to be, but you
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: know what they did, which I just didn't know this
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: was possible anywhere in the world. I got into the
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: car and thought, oh, this is great. I'll just hook
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: up Apple car Play and I'll have nav. They disabled
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: Apple car Play and Android Auto, so they removed it
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: from the car for some stupid reason.
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: Is that Mercedes over there or is that just this
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: hire company?
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: No, it was. It must have just been Mercedes over there.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: They must and we'll talk about this later in car News.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: But maybe they charge a subscription for it or something
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: like that. It'll be like, you know, fifty dinners per
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: month or something, which is the local currency.
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: By the way, you just.
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: Go into some old heightened throw someone a bag of coins.
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what is expensive af though, and that
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: is Denmark.
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: Coffee was eight bucks.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: Did you try drinking alcohol in Denmark because I think
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: that's taxed.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, every thing is expensive. And they like bicycles, which
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: troubles me greatly.
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: I agree it's good when you hit one, though. Oh
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: my god, I've got to tell you something, right. I
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: don't want to name names, but I went into a
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: very well known classic car dealership. It's iconic. It has
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: some of the best examples of classic cars in Australia.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: Concourse stuff, and their priced accordingly.
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: Is this car city in Melbourne?
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're not keep your eyes open for
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: a bargain guy. As two cars that I noticed amongst
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: the Concourse Classic cars that were in this establishment that
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: I did not expect to see. One was the Yonda
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: Ionic five. Wow, and how much do you think they
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: price that at?
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: Was it the top pick?
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: Like ninety grand?
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: It was that Arctic white YEP one hundred thousand dollars.
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's very stupid.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: Well then I kept walking and guess what else I saw?
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: A byd Atto three.
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: What was that doing?
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: Which is the cheapest electric which is the most affordable
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: electric car?
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: Oh no, they've been pipped by MG.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: Guess how much they had on Paul's beloved byd Auto three.
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: Guess how much?
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: How much? Well it's what forty five thousand dollars.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: So now if you maybe fifty, if you were to
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: walk into this Concourse Classic car dealership, you were going
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: to pay seventy nine thousand dollars for the three?
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: Are they insane?
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: It's like they thought, you know what, it's sitting next
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: to a one point five million dollar Ferrari and.
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe they won't notice.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: And the Porsche Spider. Let's let's really up this game,
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: and let's do seventy nine thousand dollars.
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: Did you check inside? Maybe it had gold tar strings
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: in the doors.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe Slash played them and he said in
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: guns and Roses set, Hey something else. It's crazy? Is
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: the the two thousand and two comedore that I saw? Sorry,
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: I mean the new BMW M two.
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: You're a bitch, really, am I?
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: That thing looks like mate, that thing looks like it
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: was found in one of my kids kin to surprise toys.
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny? BMW.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: They just cause outrage with the design of some of
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: their cars.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: And I remember when.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: The M three and the M four came out, people like,
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: oh my god, it's the ugliest thing ever. I'm never
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: going to buy one. And now everyone's yeah, now everyone's
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: come around to it. And I think the M two
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: was the same. Like when I first saw the leaked pictures,
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: I was like, I think someone in China just copied
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: this design and just changed it a little behaved.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: BMW from Wish right, Yeah and yeah.
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: So look I got a chance to see the current
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: person this week at a dealership opening in Melbourne, and look,
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: I think the color looks terrible.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: It's called zan Vort Blue and it's named after a
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: racetrack in Holland. And it is literally a carbon copy
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: of the baby blue Hyundai color, which hasn't dated well.
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: And this hadn't dated well either, even though it was
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: released a week ago. So I thought the color just
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: didn't work and it probably didn't accentuate the lines all
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: that well.
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: But the same M two.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: In red I thought actually looked pretty good, and in
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: person it has a bit of presence to it, like
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: it's got some proper width. It'll be one hundred and
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: twenty grand in Australia, has pretty much the same engine
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: as the three and the M four. I mean, do
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: you like at least the fact that it comes potentially
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: with a six speed manual if you tick that box? Yeah?
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think I've got nothing against what they're
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: kidding this out with. Everything looks great in Syria, looks great,
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: you know, everything standard. But I look at that front
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: end and honestly, I know people were shocked with the
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: four when you know, the big pig nose got released
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: or the lungs or whatever you want to call them.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: But I was far more horrified in this because it honestly,
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: it just looks like remember that phase that HSV went
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: through when they kind of moved from that kind.
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: Of Yeah, they did a W four two seven that
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: looked very blocky like this.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: Exactly, and yeah, I just kind of thought, just doesn't
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: look progressive. It looks shit.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: You know. The weird thing is none of their cars
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: look the same anymore. And if you have a look
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: at the M two, it looks nothing like an M
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: three or an M four like, It's totally different in
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: terms of the design. Looks nothing like the new IC seven,
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: which has that split head like design. So it is
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: interesting that they're going with a scatter gun approach and
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: compare that to Mercedes Bens where everything just looks the
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: exact same. It is fascinating. That's that's how they're going.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're listening to this or you can
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: to see what people think, contact at the Drive show
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: dot com dot I you that's the drive dot com
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: dot au. Let us know what you think about the design.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: Do you think it is as terrible as Gordy says
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: or is it actually you know car that you want
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: to drive.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: Look, don't get me wrong, I want to drive it.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: And you know and happily, happily be given one long
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: term BMW.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck with that.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: It's just look, that's that's the beauty. I think of
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: cars and design like it's very personally. It's it's it's perspective.
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: Well, let's I think design is very much subjective, and.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: You know what, you know, you think you look good
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: and look Maybe some others or a lot of others
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: may not agree with that, but you know, it is
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: what it is.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: I got a haircut for this podcast. Actually that's a lie.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: I got a haircut because they said to me, hey, god,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: you've got a like a photo shoot on Thursday and
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: photo shoot and I'm like, yeah, how am I going
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: to lose twenty by Thursday? So I just did it
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: the old fashioned way. I went down the cross and
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: got addicted to meth no. I yeah. So, but the
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: dates kind of got pushed forward. I'm not gonna say why. Basically,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: they're just like, can you suck your neck fat in? No,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: all right, we'll move this to another month. Lose some weight, jubs.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: What was your photo shoot for I'm Talent.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've noticed, but while you're galivanding
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: around on Channel seven talking of bloody Koshi and frigging
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: advising him on the best by d to get. I'm
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: sitting down and talking to a stick and rating number
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: one baby, rating number one. Hey. Oh, by the way,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: do you know I saw Koshi at the MG launch
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: for the for the for the electric.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: How cost effective of him?
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: He loves MG. He loves it, and I think they
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: sponsor his his foot?
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Is he?
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Okay? That makes a lot more sense. Yeah, good for him.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: We should talk car news. Something terrible has happened.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: What someone told you, you would tell them.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: That's it. So some devastating news, my beloved. The key
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: is Stigga is ceasing production in April twenty twenty three.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: It's kind of been speculated. I didn't realize that this
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: was hard out news. I kind of thought that this
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: was put to bed about six months ago. But I
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: guess it's now official that it's ending. And what's the
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: what's the replacement on this? It's a I guess an electric?
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Right? Yeah.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Well, the report just came out from Auto Times of
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Korean publication, and there have been rumors for a while,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: but they're saying that basically, not only will this sting
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: be pulled from the Korean market, but they're going to
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: stop production in April twenty twenty three, which kind of
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: lines up with product cycle, but I reckon The replacement
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: is going to be a Sileik electric four door coupe
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: and it'll be launched in twenty twenty five to the
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: sports Saedan thing running for Kia.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: What do you think about that?
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, as a Stinger owner, would you go from
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: this sort of engaging, raucous petrol thing to an electric
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: four door coupe instead.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, it's interesting because I've been looking at selling
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: that car, even though it's fairly new, and the thing
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: that's taken me so long to I guess get rid
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: of it is I can't find anything that I really love,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: everything that I kind of hated about it. In the
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: last couple of months, I've sort of realized that, my god,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: this is it's honestly, and I'm saying this subjectively, from
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: any sort of car like a and I'm looking at
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: SUVs to replace. I've jumped in BMW's in everything and
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: in Oudias, and I just I'm genuinely really comfortable in
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: this car, like it's such as it's just a typically
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: all round it's a grand tour, it's relaxing, it's still
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: got a bit of grunt. I mean, it's not gonna
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: it's it's the noise isn't as great as it should be.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: But I cannot, for the life of me, find anything
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: that just makes me go, get out of this car
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: and pick up this one, because this is what you need.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: The sticker owners like on the what do you call
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: those owners forums and stuff? Oh, nothing better than a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: stringer mite not And I'm just kind of going, this
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: makes me want to sell my car, genuinely, I'm kind
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of going, Well, I can put the kid in the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: back quite easily and the dog and take it on.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: It's got enough bootspace for a decent road trip, for
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: refracs and you know whatever. But in terms of the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: way it's specked out too, like the tech on it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be paying top dollar for that sort
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: of stuff. Now what am I going to wait for
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff? And I still want to
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: get rid of it, but it's kind of like what
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: do I replace it with? I mean, we were thinking
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: about the model.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Why, I just ye, you're probably not cool enough for that.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't eight maint you, we're gonna talk about that
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: because you have literally bought yourself twenty twenty two's Volvo Wagon.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I will admit it is incredibly ugly and everyone has
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: one now and it is so unappealing and not fast,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: and I don't know, it is just kind of depressing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: It is literally just a to B transport. There is
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: nothing interesting about it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: That's right. The bootspace. Don't get me wrong. I mean
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: that's a two bedroom unit in Sydney.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: But it is literally an accountant.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, okay, you can do stuff that you
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: know great, but you're just boring. Yeah, sorry to any
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: accountants out there, but.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Daniel, but it's a weird one. The key Stinger. Would
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I drive the electric version?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Probably. I think Yanda and kra Key I've said this
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: many times. They're just in such a great place. It's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: weird because I was driving the I was driving the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: ConA in last week. I'm like, what haven't I I
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: just I think it was because I thought I've driven
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: everything in you know, the end Division, except the Coner.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Because to me it was just like ridiculous and silly
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and just it's just a bonker's car. It looks like
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: it's come from a kin to surprise and it's you know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it's roots kind of like that old lady Grandma car
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and they've decided to trick it up and stuff like that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: And I sort of thought to myself, God, this is
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: a ballsy move and it makes no sense why they
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: did this. And I realized after I drove that car
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: everything I hated about it initially, I loved about it
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: because the fact that it makes no sense and you know,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: there's there's flaws and stuff in it. It's like it's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: such a fun, silly, ballsy decision, you know, and I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: love everything about it, and I think, oh yeah, So
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to get back to your main sort of point, I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: think I would drive whatever Cay is sort of putting
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: out there. I like their EV six. You were sort
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: of a bit in two minds.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: No, No, I do like it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I just think that, you know, I just think that
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: with the EV stuff, they're actually spending a bit more
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: money on this. They're really going to town on it
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: because they're using an eight hundred volt system, which is
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: much more expensive to manufacture, and to manufacture. No one
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: else is really doing that. So I think from a
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: just from an engineering point of view, they're actually doing
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a really solid job with it, and I'm key to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: see what it looks like, what it sounds like, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: how it drives, and how they plan on differentiating it
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: from the EV six, because I think that'll be important
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I wonder if this will. I've got this habit of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: when I sell a car, it always goes up disgustingly
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: in value.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I think that's going to change pretty soon. Actually, my
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: brother literally just set me, like ten minutes ago a
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: text message with a picture of our old Model three Performance.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: So it's listed by the dealer that we sold the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: car to. I sold the car to them for about
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: ten grand more than what it's listed now. The k's
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: haven't gone up at all, so he's been basically sitting
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: on this thing, bought it at the peak off me,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: and cannot get rid of it now. So I think
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: use car prices are really starting to sharply decline at
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the moment.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I remember selling like a bloody two sixty Z to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the Mechanic and it was concourse like I kept this thing.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Anything that went wrong, you know, I fixed it, and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I remember selling it to him for like six and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: a half grand and think to himself, well, I made
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: five hundred bucks more than I perved for it. I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: looked on car sales the other day because I thought,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I want that car back, and for that sort of
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: car in that condition, it's a minimum of seventy k.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ridiculous anyway, So the stinger no longer.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, look, it is what it is. It's going
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to happen, right.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it was bound to happen eventually.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: All right. Move into BMW is an interesting move because
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: one of their heads have come out and said, hydrogen
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: is the next big it. Girl, it's the it's the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: next big hooh. I'm a fan of this. I'm a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: fan of hydrogen stuff. I was saying to you off
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: air that I saw some of the hydrogen cars at
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yen Day's HQ the Nexso.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, next. So that's the like suv type thing.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Ugly and expensive. It's expensive technology and it's expensive to make.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: And I don't think they actually sell these. They sort
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of drive them around and do experiments and stuff and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: then they they donate.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: They sold some to councils in Canberra, right, Actually they
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: sold a whole stack to the government.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, and then they're also known to donate
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: them to universities.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Hydrogen's interesting because and BMW actually has a good point
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: with this. They're saying that by locking ourselves into just
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: electric cars, it could present an issue in the future
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: because you're relying on all these rare minerals and unless
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: technology significantly improves in in batteries, which it probably will,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: you're still going to lock yourself into evs. So what
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: they're suggesting is that they will continue working on.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Hydrogen in the background.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: The reason hydrogen isn't as efficient as something like an
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: electric car is because to produce hydrogen.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: You have to use electricity.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: You then have to store the hydrogen, transport it to
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: a filling station, and then use energy to plummet into
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: a car.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: And within the car, you then have a.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Multi step process to convert that hydrogen into electricity that
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: you can run.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Electric motors with.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: So there are a lot of efficiency losses during that
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: process because with an EV all you're doing is creating
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: the electricity, sending it down a transmission line, and then
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: pushing it into a car into a car's battery. So
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it is a simpler process, but ultimately, if you have
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: a look at the business model of petrol stations around
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the world at the moment, if you rock up to
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: a petrol station, they might get ten cars through a
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: bowser an hour at a busy time, and each of
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: those ten cars is taking fuel, they're paying per they're
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: going inside the store, they're spending money, Whereas with an
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: EV at the moment, even if you put the fastest
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: charges you have available, if you drive there, you're going
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: to sit your car there for twenty to thirty minutes
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: at least, You're then only going to get one or
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: two people through a bowser every hour, and that is
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: a whole lot less money than you were actually making
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: with fuel. So if you look at these companies, they're
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the companies that are going to be pushing hydrogen as well.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Because they can charge per leader. The government can then
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: get in on that as well, in charge per leaders.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: So I think there's still a lot of industry pressure
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: on hydrogen to work, and we will definitely see it
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: in commercial I just don't know whether we'll actually see
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: it in passenger vehicles in the future.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: As you said, it is early technology, and with this
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: sort of stuff, as time goes on, this stuff becomes
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: cheaper and more accessible. So I mean electric cars weren't
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: always cheap to manufacture. I mean they're still not even
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to buy now, they're still on the expensive side. They're
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: probably to me, there's still quite expensive.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: They're expensive.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do hope that hydrogen takes off, especially
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: for both passenger and sort of commercial trucking and whatnot.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's got I think it's definitely got its place.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: As you said, like god, you can you can fill
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: up a hydrogen passenger car in about three minutes.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: It's a much quicker process, and it's now safe enough
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: as well to use within passenger vehicles. So yeah, I
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: really don't see the issue with it from that front.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: It's just the efficiency of it just doesn't stack up
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: in comparison to an EV.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Should we talk about today's car review the.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Twenty twenty three Coupra Leon and carp Perform mental prices
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: stuck from forty three thousand, nine hundred and ninety dollars
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: for the Leon and fifty thousand, six hundred and ninety
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: dollars for the for Mentor.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: All right, so Cooper Leon, Coopra Form WEINSA. I thought
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: we'd mix these both in one because I mean obviously
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: different cars, but basically a bit of backstory. Coopra is
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: correcting me if I'm wrong, Paul, But Coopra is basically
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the Spanish cousin in the Volkswagen Group, this sporty, kind
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of little pocket from Spain. They've kind of put these
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: this brand together. It's I kind of like it. It's exciting,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: it was cool to watch.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Well, it's it's actually just very quickly. It's a it's
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: a startup and I use that term in inverted commas
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: because it's a startup with enormous backing from the Volkswagen Group,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: but it is virtually a brand new brand that they
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: are starting up from scratch, so it is really fresh
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and new in that sense.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Always correcting me, Yeah, someone has to, someone has to.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to keep you honest. If it's not me,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: it'll be Trev.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: He's not answering my calls anymore. Oh my picks Corp.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Really on this competes I guess with the Golf GTI
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: or the Golf ah I reckon even the young day
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I thirty in. I'm going to put that out there
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: as well. Entry cost looking at about fifty three K.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: The one I had was the top spec the ZX
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: for about sixty one thousand dollars. That is an expensive
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: pot hatch. Two hundred and twenty one killer. What's four
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: hundred and new meters of talk two lead four cylinder
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: turbo sitting on volkswagens. What is it? The NQB platform.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's if you want to picture this
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: in terms of power output, it sits between the golf
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: GTI and the golfer in Australia, and it's the same
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: tune that they use for the GTI club sport in
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Europe that we don't get in Australia.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: We don't get that here. No could Performanta fifty one
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: thousand entry sixty one thousand and four ninety four the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: vs X two hundred similar kind of numbers, to be honest,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty eight killer? What's four hundred meters?
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Is it? The same two lider turbo?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean this is the thing.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: They try and share a lot of the components here
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: as much as they possibly can because you get cost
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: efficiencies and all that sort of stuff. So this one
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: is it's basically it's aligned with the S three sport
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: back in Sedan.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: So it's the EA triple eight engine.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: So I mean it is actually a really good in
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: those Audi products and here as well.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: It kind of does the same thing.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Seven speed, you'll clutch, all will drive. So yeah, I
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: guess we're talking of hot hatch and what a mid
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: hot suv pretty much.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I think it actually looks looks awesome as well. The
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: one that we had through our office had the Matte
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: paint finish on it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: The gold highlights. They definitely turn some heads.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's just because they're new
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: to Australia, but I mean zero to one hundred and
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: under five seconds. That foremena, the VSX is pretty sort
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of hot stuff when it comes to performance figures as well.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: It looks fantastic. Yeah, that sort of frosted blue, the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: copper highlights on the wheels, the lights look very bad.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: The whole car kind of looks a bit. Both of
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: them look very kind of batman esque. Well, I love
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the way it looks. What are your thoughts on styling?
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think styling looks great.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: That Matte paint finishes pretty reasonably priced to twenty three
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: hundred bucks, especially when you compare it to the premium
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: paint at full seventy five, I think it's matte paint
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: is typically quite expensive.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I'm also.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Fascinated that you can get this Rainbow break package for
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: four grand on the VSX only. I think that is
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I think that just signals the performance intentions and yeah, look,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see how this goes.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Obviously it'll be slow to start.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: With, and at the moment, with the market being so
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you know, stretched with supply, I think that they'll probably
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: sell a few to start with, simply because people just
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: don't have any options. They'll just buy whatever they can
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: get their hands on. But to be fair, Volkswagen has
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: built the Scoto brand in Australia from nothing and that's
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: actually doing some pretty decent numbers at the moment. So
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I think if they are committed to this, and they
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: stay in this and keep running with it, this should
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: actually have some success in Australia. I just hope they
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: don't do what Infinity did, which is just try it
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: and then realize it's not working and just go oh, yeah,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: we're just out of here, and not really give it
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the proper chance it deserves.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. It herea looks great. Blue seats you
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: don't get blue seats these days.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a reason for that.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I like it, to be honest, I hated it in pictures.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It comes across in the press as just like this. Yeah,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: it's kind of dirty blue. It doesn't look great at all,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: but once you're in it, it looks really cool. It's
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: got sort of generally everything you need. The ball string
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: is great, you know. The ride in the Leon, I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: will say, is very direct to the and very raw,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to the point where it's almost is this uncomfortable or
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: is that my hemorrhoids kicking and what's going on? Yeah? Yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: it's very it's very firm, but I think it's kitted
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: out well. I think it drives great, It handles great.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: The raw side you kind of go the fact that
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: you can feel everything in this car. Is it worth
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: sixty four thousand dollars?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some people like that type of thing,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and I think if it is a sports car, you
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: can kind of get away with it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it is.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: It is tough to you know, to win at everything,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and I think that they obviously need to differentiate this
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: as well. I mean the GTI is very soft and
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: perfect daily. If this was the same, there would just
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: be no point buying a GTI. I mean it has
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: more a little bit more poke, but it's really not
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: enough to justify, you know, going for a brand that
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: isn't as established in Australia. So I think ultimately they
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: had to differentiate it somehow and that is the way
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: it doing it.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I do like the fact that you know, in terms.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Of warranty and stuff, five year unlimited kilometer warranty, you
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: get three years of free servicing, they're kind of giving
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you as much incentive as they can to get you
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: into the cars.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: One thing I will say is, I reckon there's a
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: design flaw in their charges. I swear to God right.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Wireless charging is on an angle in both these cars,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and I want you to test it to make sure
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: it's not just me right when you get these back
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: in your HQ whatever. So with the iPhone, there's obviously
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a notch that comes out with
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the cameras. Yeah, a little bit of a growth similar
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to the one that's on Paul's penis.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: So that is my penis.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: That didn't call your showed in high school for nothing.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: So the problem is is because of that, because of
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: that chode that sits on your iPhone, when you put
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: it in wireless charging, it actually like it doesn't fully
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: connect with its back. Yeah, it doesn't fully connect with
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the charger. So what's going to happen is it cuts
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: in and out all the time and you're getting that
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: warning on the screen.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I've had that in other cars as well, where the
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: notch prevents it from gripping onto the tabs and it
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: moves around everywhere.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: It is a very shit designed by Apple. I've got
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: to say, like they're masters in electronics and then they
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: sell this phone with this ridiculous camera system sticking out
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: in the back.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I just think it is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: They're still bought the phone, but.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I just want to make it clear that it's shit
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: design and it's now functionally affecting the way this stuff works.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: And the reason it's affecting it is because with inductive charging,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the bigger the air gap between the charger and the device,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the less current.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: You can get through. And when you create that notch,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: you create an air gap.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: And they have a low fault tolerance on cars and
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: sorry to keep you up and and basically that that
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: basically makes it drop in and out.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: So anyway, that's.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: All of the engineers listening out there. They just it's
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: about four engineers with bonus. Do you know what sucks
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: on this car though? Is the bloody goes right across
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the range in the Volkswagen group. I think it's an
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: eleven point four inch infotainment display. It takes a while
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: to get used to it, and I still think once
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I got used to it, I still hated it was
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the one the volume which is kind of yes, what's
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: it called helot touch or something coptic touch, So it
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: works with the volume, and it also happens to be
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: with the air con as well the climate control. And
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it's just like they're obviously trying to get that minimalistic
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: kind of vibe going in the car, but I don't
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: think they're I don't think they're ready for that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Jolly yep, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I think that stuff's Italy and I really don't like
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: it in Volkswagen and go to products that they just
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: need physical knobs in there to adjust.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I guess all around this is I think it's an
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: exciting car. I think it drives great, handles great, there's
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: definitely no issues with that sort of stuff.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of the new brands we've had in
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Australia recently, or all Chinese brands, so it's refreshing to
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: see someone else try and enter the market, which often
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: doesn't happen here.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I kind of think these are on the expensive side.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, definitely.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I think they are pretty expensive, and I think that
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: could be a bit of a challenge because ultimately, you know,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: it's a brand new brand, you want to get people
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: into it, and by hitting them straight up with an
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: expensive car, it is going to limit how many people
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: decide to do it. And like I said before, you'll
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: kind of have artificial sales figures now because these all
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: be available and people will know they can jump into
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: a car and get it quickly. But will it be
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the same in two or three years time once they've
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: been on the market for a while.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Buy list or flick if you look looking at let's
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: say the fullmntal, which is the popular one. I know
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of people will be listening to this because
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: they're looking into the FORMENTTA. I think quick backtrack on
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the Leon, I actually think that's a great car. It's excellent.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: In fact, the biggest problem is that with it is
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the sixty four thousand dollars price tag. But if we
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: look at the foromena in itself, this for me, I
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: was really hoping to love this, and it reminded me
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: of a typical Audi SQ model where I was let
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: down a little bit. Yeah, I don't think it was
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: roomy enough you would expect. I just think with the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: wireless charging that pissed me off as well, just bits.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: There's little things where I kind of go, if you're
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: putting sixty five k on this, I want that fix,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I want that sorted.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, look, I don't know. I would test drive it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: If you're desperate for an SUV and you need one now,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: you're probably not going to have too much of a
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: choice in it, right. But yeah, I'll be curious to
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: see how this fares over the next six to twelve
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: months and whether they get the traction that they're hoping
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: for in Australia because they've spent a lot of money
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: launching it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think definitely listed check it out because it
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: sounds great, it looks great, it does drive great, But yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: This is going to have to be a passion project,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's see how it goes.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Ah, we're both sick, m yuck, yucky. Yeah. Your online
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: content has been a bit interesting lately. I watched you
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: for Witch Channels on your personal one. I watched your
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: two minute story if you're filming a kidnap and you're
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: heavily breathing, going oh yeah, look, how cute it is
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: a look at that, look at that, look at so cute. Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Then there was another one where I don't know, you're
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: in fucking Borneo or something and there's a squirrel and again,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: oh look.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Look it's an animal hour ship.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Bloody hell, Paul's trying to remake the movie Bambi doesn't
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Baby get shot yeah by Joe Rogan and then he
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: uses it as venison and then talks about talks about
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: it on his podcast. I'm not shitting on you, Joe Rogan,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: please please, We've got enough issues, Daniel. So yeah, anyway.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Thank you for stalking me. I do appreciate that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Mate. You're putting it up there on a public forum.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: What do you expect I'm going to give you a
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: shit about it? You any little humble brag in first class.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Oh time for the long trip home in my seat
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: one A with my sensible slacks and ridiculous fucking chows.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: You are a bitch, give miss me admit it?
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Contacted the Drive Show dot com dot a U. I'm
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: going to say that one more time. Contact at the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Drive Show dot com dot AU.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: That's the one, yes, and let us know what you
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: think about that. M too.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I've got it up on my socials and Gordon I
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: think we'll hopefully share it on Instagram, yeah, on from
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: his Macintosh and you'll be able to give us your
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: impressions of that.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: But I'm keen to see.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Whatever on thinks. Do you think it is a fugly thing?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Or do you think that actually looks okay?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I reckon it's very much.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like you, I mean, stunning and smart.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: No. I forgret I think give me ten give me
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: ten beers, it'll probably look okay, but I probably shouldn't
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: drive it after ten beers. Not on the phone. What
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: did you say last time to me? How do you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: get to you before? Get that thing away from me?
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: With your foster's flop?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: What that means but thank you. Yeah, let us contact
• 38:43
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• 39:04
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• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Give me some cold and fluid tablets. Well, we promised
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: an exciting announcement and I mean, it's probably not mine
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to say, but Paul's.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I'm this cannot be the intro. That is not okay