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Health and Wellness with CEO of UTZY Naturals: Daniel Powers · Deep Dive into Joy

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This is Deep Dive into Joy and I'm your host,
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Gina Rueckner. So before we get to today's episode,
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Etsy natural because your wellness is their mission.
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I'm in, like, Geneva, Wisconsin. Oh, wow. Okay,
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so we're total opposite. Okay. So this episode's
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gonna look a little different. I'm gonna release
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this one. It's gonna be my one -year anniversary,
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so I'm really excited. I'm gonna make this my
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anniversary episode. I wasn't gonna release next
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month just because I'm trying to get my daughter
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through graduation, and it's next month. I think
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I have something on my calendar every day. But
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I'm going to release this one for my anniversary.
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So this podcast is all about testimonies, health
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and wellness, how God shows up for us. Sometimes
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we journey through the Bible and, you know, just
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go through that. So it's all kinds of things,
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but I'm mainly testimony based. So I want to
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welcome my listeners onto today's episode. So
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I want to introduce Daniel Power, Daniel Powers,
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right? Okay. So he is CEO of Utzy Naturals, which
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is a sponsor of the podcast. And if you listened
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to the beginning, I already recorded the ad for
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that. So you can use my link and discount code
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to get a discount on Utzy. So Daniel is a father
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of five girls. Is that correct, Daniel? I don't
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know how you do it. So your husband, father of
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five girls and the CEO of Utzy Naturals. So,
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is there anything that you want to add with that?
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Oh, goodness. I feel like that's enough. Yeah.
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But yeah, those are kind of the main lines in
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my life right now. Yeah. And maybe to go along
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with kind of your introduction, too, is Christian
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as well. So, a believer and something that has
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been part of my life since I was a young child.
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Love that. And you also started Non Talks Dad,
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which is on Instagram. So that's something new
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for you, correct? It is, yeah. You just started?
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So a lot of friends and counselors have been
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like, Dan, you should create some content and
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just share kind of some of your lifestyle because
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we live a pretty healthy life, my wife and my
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daughters. And so it's something that I don't
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know, a lot of I think in the wellness space,
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a lot of times it's the mom that's driving healthy
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decisions in the family. They're trying to buy
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healthy foods and try not eat processed junk
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and they're kind of always pushing that piece.
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And I'm kind of like, well, a lot of dads is
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like the fathers in our families, we should be
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involved in driving that conversation. And there
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shouldn't be a process of like, feeling that
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our wife is doing everything and trying to get
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us to eat better. As Christian men, we should
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be stepping up to the plate and we should be
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taking care of our bodies and we should know
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what's going on with the health of our family
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and our kids and driving this decision. So non
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-toxic add is a new thing I've been working on
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like literally the last month, but I really enjoy
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it and just starting to just educate like, hey,
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here's how I look at health and wellness from
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a family perspective. These are things that we
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can work on and improve. And here's kind of like
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easy ways to integrate health and wellness into
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our lives. So it doesn't have to feel like some
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crazy burden, or you have to go spend thousands
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of dollars on some weird esoteric biohacker set
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up. Right. And like I did. So whenever I first
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found out I was diagnosed with cancer, it was
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a total like reset of the whole household. So
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very expensive. You know, just getting rid of
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all toxic cleaning supplies and skin care. And,
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you know, I was a little bit into natural and
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holistic wellness, but not as much as we are
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now. So all of our food got overturned, our supplements.
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So it was a lot. And I think it's very much appreciated
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having somebody like you on showing, especially
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as a man and a dad. Like, I think that's awesome
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to be a leader of your family. That's amazing.
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So I just think that's really awesome to have
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you online and sharing all the things that you've
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been sharing. It's really cool. So this episode
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is going to be all about you, Daniel, your testimony,
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if you have one to share. And then I kind of
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just want you to go into how Etsy was born and
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just all about the company after your testimony.
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So I'm going to let you go ahead. You have the
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floor. For sure. Thank you. Awesome. So yeah,
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so as far as my testimony, so I was raised in
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a Christian household, really blessed by that.
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My dad is actually a pastor. So PK, right? They
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say preacher's kids. So that was kind of always
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part of our family. My dad's an amazing guy.
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Ever since I can remember, he's been involved
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in church life. and preaching, teaching, eldership,
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et cetera. And so, yeah, so that's kind of something
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that I grew up with. He had helped start a church
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when I was... Pretty young we lived in central,
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Wisconsin, and then we moved back to the area
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that I'm in now in Lake Geneva When I was about
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10 and started a church there with a couple of
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their families, so it's just started as a home
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church And then yeah, it's just kind of something
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that I always kind of had a Longing for God in
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a sense. I remember as an eight or nine year
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old playing baseball in little league baseball
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and I'd be on the outfield praying for all my
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teammates because I knew they didn't know who
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God was and their families didn't go to church.
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And then my dad is doing a sermon series through
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Romans, the book of Romans. And I remember just
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like, I just felt so convicted of my sin, but
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then that there was a savior and I needed to
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be covered. And so went through that. I kind
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of resisted for a couple Sundays and then eventually
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I hit, I still can't remember which book we were
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in, but maybe Romans six. But I remember just
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being like, okay, I see it. I see how I'm dead
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in my sin, but I can be made alive in Christ.
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And so that's when I became Christian. I was
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like 12 or 13 at the time. And then I was baptized
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shortly thereafter. And then it's just been a
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process of working out my faith since then, I
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would say, and there's been seasons of pressing
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in and then seasons of struggle too, in faith
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as well. Specifically when I was 21, 22, had
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a bunch of friends that I knew that left the
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faith, exited, and so just trying to work through
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a lot of that was always, was a big challenge
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in my life. But yeah, God's been faithful. So
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we have a fantastic church that we love, that
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we go to every Sunday. And so yeah, it's just
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been a major blessing. And that's what colors
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my worldview is scripture. And I'm trying to
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align myself with that every day as I become
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more and more sanctified. Yeah. I love that sanctified
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word because we just did a series on sanctification
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with a friend of mine because I just felt like
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Nobody really, I mean, all the churches I've
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been to anyways, nobody really talks about sanctification
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and being fully glorified to God. So I just,
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I love that you mentioned that. And I think a
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lot of us fall off, especially, you know, after
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high school and starting college, you know, it's
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just a new season of life. You're young, you
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kind of, Not that you want to sin, but you just
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want to live life, right? So you're not just,
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you're kind of just not living and being obedient
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to God. You're just living for your flesh. I
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think a lot of us go through that at that age.
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I know I definitely did. I fell off the bandwagon
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probably right after high school clear up till
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probably my thirties. So it's been, you know,
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I would pray here and there and read verses here
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and there, but it was nothing like how God grew
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my faith through my cancer journey. So, um, yeah.
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I just, I mean, that's good. So did you have
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like any, let's say, I don't know how to put
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it, struggles or anything being a preacher kid?
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Like, because I know a lot of people feel like
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they struggle or like even moving to a different
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church than you know, where you grew up in, stuff
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like that. Yeah, the preacher's kid, my dad was,
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he was in an eldership, biblical eldership. process
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so it wasn't as much as like the one guy that's
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doing everything it was fairly diversified through
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a couple different elders so he was an elder
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and he did a lot of the Sunday service teaching
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but he wasn't like the preacher like the only
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guy you know it might be a lot of other churches
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so it I didn't feel as much pressure like that
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because it wasn't like we were necessarily put
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up on a pedestal but Yeah, so it always seemed
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normal to me and there's families I grew up with
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for a long period of my life and our families
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have been friends for decades and so that was
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a pretty small church. So yeah, so I didn't notice
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much of that. But yeah, I think eventually we
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had transitioned to a different church and so
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that was kind of like an ordeal to kind of work
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through that and what that looks like and just
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following the Lord's leading. But yeah, I look
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back at it kind of like my youth years and time
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spent at churches as a blessing. So yeah, a lot
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of good sermons and a lot of great friendships.
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So can you go through a little bit more of how
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so you said like your friends kind of fell off
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the bandwagon. Did you or did you always have
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your faith through those times? Or did you do
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you feel like you fell off to a little bit? just
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in those younger years? And how did God get you
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through that? Good question. I think, I don't
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know. I think I maintained my faith. I don't
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know how to really even say that theologically,
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per se, but I think I maintained kind of my faith.
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It was more like I saw ministry leaders that
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I trusted really highly. and appreciated and
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then they essentially fell in sin and their ministries
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like went to zero overnight and so experiencing
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that was really difficult because these were
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really talented teachers that had really good
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theology and they were really good at like walking
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through scripture and proclaiming truths and
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so for me I was like well the truth that they're
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proclaiming I think it's true like it's from
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scripture like it's very precise and it's just
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there but the people themselves were you know
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potentially not aligned well um like they I don't
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know if you believe those things that they were
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teaching okay so for me the challenge was trying
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to discern um should I throw the baby out with
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the bath water yeah people all kind of at the
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end of the day they you know they were they were
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in sin and they were not repenting and it was
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like you know, do I throw out their message as
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well? I was like, well, the message is actually
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pretty good because it was like, it was legit
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scripture. And so I think for me, I had a hard
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time kind of parsing that all out for a season.
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And so that was more of like my struggle of,
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you know, should I just throw all this out or
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should I retain? And so kind of where I ended
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up with over probably an 18 month period was
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this is scriptural truth that I believe in. But
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these people, Again, ministry leaders, they were
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kind of proclaiming that, but maybe not believing
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it. And I think I kind of think of like Balaam's
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donkey, in a sense, where you have that donkey's
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like proclaiming truth, right? It's a donkey,
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right? So it's kind of like that. I don't know.
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That's kind of how I think about it now. So did
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you notice, like, did any of those people ever
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come back? to ministry, like you're not following
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up with them. They're still not in your life.
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It's been like a solid decade at this point.
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And so I kind of just moved on, I would say,
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with my life. I've got married and had kids since
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then. It's like, it's not on my radar as much.
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So, yeah, I'm unfamiliar. I don't really know
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how that all went. I pray they found their way
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back. Yeah. So, moving into that, as you got
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married, how did you come together in your marriage
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with a Christian faith? Was your wife in faith
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too? How did that come about? But yeah, so we're
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in kind of like a kind of its own little niche
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within that world is like kind of homeschooled
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reformed theology kind of viewpoint and form
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Baptist. And so that's kind of a small world
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in and of itself. And so we used to go to a lot
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of the same conferences like Christian conferences.
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So my wife is from Texas. And so we met at conferences
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like these conferences that we would go to once
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or twice a year with my family. And then we just
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kind of stayed in contact. And so yeah, so that's
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kind of how we met each other. And then her family
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is awesome. Her dad was a preacher as well. She's
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from a big family of seven kids. So very similar
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kind of growing up in many ways. And so it was
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a really kind of natural fit when we started
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developing a relationship and hid it off from
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there. That's awesome. So how do you two parent
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together to just kind of like raise your kids
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and be obedient to God. So how's that look as
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a family now? Yeah, I mean, I think one of the
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big things is just teaching them what God is
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teaching me and kind of walking through that.
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So a big piece for us is after dinner is doing
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family devotions together around the dinner table.
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So that's a practice that We're working on We're
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Not Perfect. It's not like every single night.
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We've got a lot of little like little baby stuff.
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They're pretty young. You know, the attention
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span is like, you know, the size of Google sometimes.
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Yeah, but we work on it. And so just putting
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in reps right now. My oldest Gwen is seven and
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she's starting to really understand things and
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we'll We'll talk to her about kind of more deeper
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things of the faith and she'll retain it. Like
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we were talking last night about, you know, can
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you earn your way to heaven? Can you be good
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enough? And she was like, no, you can't. It works.
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You can't do that. I was like, awesome. But I
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think that's the big piece is just having those
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practices of family devotions, regularly, Sunday
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service. and then I think because I was raised
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in a Christian home it's like a lot of times
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when you're a kid you can kind of lose sight
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of why you're doing all these things and it can
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be very rule based and so I try and when I can't
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like break down the why behind what we believe
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versus just being like do this do this do this
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yeah um and so um yeah so those are kind of some
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of the ways that we do stuff and um and they
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go to Christian school as well which has been
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great, so there's a lot of really good reinforcement
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there as well. So what are the ages of your girls?
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Oh boy. 7, 5, 4, 2, 1. 7, 5, 4, 2, 1. Oh my goodness.
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So what does that look like for you on a daily
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basis? So you have non -talk dad, so how are
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you incorporating the family into that? Yeah,
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and so one of the big pieces Like social media
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the whole world into itself. I do not like it
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per se but it's something that that I'm growing
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in and learning to. But yeah, it's just kind
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of the big thing is like, how can I teach my
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kids things and then just share that along the
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way? So one thing I've been doing is I've been
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putting together slide show presentations and
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talking to my kids about microplastics. I love
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that one. And so like, and I just shot a couple
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more over the weekend. And so it's a lot of fun.
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Some people really love it some haters out there
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I was gonna say you said you've been getting
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a lot of hate on that right? Is it the micro
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plastic one or just all of them? Someone was
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hating on seed oils. Okay So yeah, I don't understand
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crazy internet but It's to be expected. I suppose
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right there much more bold behind the keyboard.
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That's for sure Yeah So Just share a little bit
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more about what you're sharing on non talks dad.
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Um, is that just on Instagram? Yes, I'm like
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too old for tick -tock. Yeah, I know Instagram
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and then I want to learn from YouTube videos
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as well kind of breaking down topics because
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I Love health and wellness. I was raised in that
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in the industry. So I I'm really into Intuit
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and happy to share kind of what I've learned
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over my 30 plus years of life. But yeah, so a
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lot of it is just kind of teaching with what
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I teach my kids and then also just like, hey,
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here's practical wellness tips for families.
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And so kind of just trying to put stuff together
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there and again, help educate people and make
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it approachable and not make health scary. Every
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week they're like, news stories that come out
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it's like eggs are bad for you they'll kill you
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the next week it's like hey eggs are the superfood
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the next you know x y and z and it just goes
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back and forth like every every other week and
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i know a lot of people that aren't in like the
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hell of space they're just like they don't know
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what to believe and then they just kind of throw
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their hands up and they're like i'm just going
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to go with what's easiest and eat foods that
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i like and it's like so what's my whole thing
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is how can i boil down health and wellness as
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much as possible and kind of like decipher between
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health and hype. So that's kind of my goal and
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we have a lot of content coming too. So we're
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working a lot on it. So trying to help people
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out. I love that. I'll list all the ways that
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they can follow you in the show notes too at
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the end. Awesome. So how do you feel about, I
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know you've been eating and I forget what you
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call it. You're eating the same thing every day.
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What's it called? Yeah, boy kibble. Boy kibble,
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that's it. So how did that come about? Where'd
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you find that at? Well, so meal prep is really
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important. And so one of my things for dads is
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like, your wife shouldn't have to make your lunch
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for you. You should be making your own lunch
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for yourself. And it should have really good
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macros. And it's not that hard. That's my platform.
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I'll get up on my soap box. So it's like, your
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wife should be making you lunch. You can do it.
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I promise. But yeah, so I initially started meal
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prepping when I first got married. And I love
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cooking actually, but you know, initially every
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week I was making some fancy thing. It's like
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meatballs, all this stuff. I was like, man, this
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is like really complex and takes a ton of time.
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And it's expensive because I was like making,
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you know, kind of custom meals every time. And
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then eventually I just kind of came to the idea
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of like, yeah, I should just ground beef, rice,
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sweet potatoes, and some fermented veggies. Like
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that's everything you need. It's protein, carbs,
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and then, you know, kind of fiber essentially,
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and for your gut health. And it's like, you can
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just kind of take those basic components and
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make whatever you want. So it's like, if you
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want to be more high protein, you want to have
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more balance, you want to add more fat, you can
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kind of just mix up the ratios and you can have
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your perfect meal every time. And it's insanely
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easy to prep it. I do it Sunday night. I just
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cook up a couple pounds of ground beef, chop
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up some sweet potatoes. And I usually keep a
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big vat of, you know, I'll have a huge bowl and
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I just take a couple bowls in the office, leave
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them in the fridge and that's my whole week.
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And it's like, it's so easy, right? It saves
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money and it gives you amazing macros. And so
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boy kibble is something I've had every lunch
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for the last five years, basically. And I love
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it. I still look forward to every day. So what
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do you say to all the haters out there that say
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eating the same thing every day is not good for
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you? I think people's desire for novelty is what's
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keeping them from reaching their goals. So true.
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That is so true. Do you have any advice on how
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to stay on a budget and still be able to eat,
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you know, like we go grass -fed meats. everything's
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pretty much organic, so my grocery bill is horrible.
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But do you have any advice for those, maybe just
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starting out, like, what's the best advice, what's
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the first thing to go to? Well, I'm a huge Costco
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fan. Like you said, my Costco bill's insane.
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But I love Costco, so if you can join some sure
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warehouse, that's usually your best pricing.
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And again, Boykibble as the meal is really cheap,
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actually, you know, it's like ground beef. So
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just a couple couple bucks a pound. You can do
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rice, which is incredibly, you know, affordable
24:45
or sweet potatoes. And and then, you know, some
24:49
kimchi or sauerkraut, whatever your preference
24:51
is. Oh, I also like cottage cheese, too, but.
24:54
It's all pretty affordable and so I would just
24:56
say if you find a good basic meal that you really
24:58
enjoy, you can kind of just repeat that. I've
25:02
never added up the cost of like a boyko bowl,
25:04
but it's got to be the best value that you could
25:07
possibly get. So do you try to go organic too?
25:10
I know like no seed oil and stuff like that.
25:14
As much as possible. My brother actually has
25:16
a grass -fed beef farm, so occasionally I'll
25:19
be able to get some beef from there if they have
25:21
supply. But yeah, again, I love, Costco has a
25:25
grass -fed beef as well, which works well. So
25:29
yeah, the area we live in doesn't have amazing
25:31
grocery stores or health food stores. Same. So
25:35
we're a little bit limited. but we actually have
25:38
a natural grocers that is actually coming alive
25:40
next month. So that's like a kind of a mountain
25:43
Colorado chain, I believe. So I'm very excited
25:47
to see what their produce section looks like.
25:50
But yeah, whenever I can. I would say if you're
25:53
just starting out is I would just focus on eating.
25:56
Um, you don't need to worry about, you know,
25:58
everything being organic or grass fed, just,
26:01
uh, start getting the right foods themselves.
26:04
And then you can kind of layer that in as you
26:06
get more budget or as you kind of get further
26:08
down the rabbit hole. Now does your brother,
26:11
is that just like a personal business farm or
26:14
does he sell online? Oh, um, does he have an
26:18
online? He might sell online. It's kind of tricky
26:21
to ship a lot of meat and stuff, but they're
26:25
Alden Hills Organic Farm in Wisconsin, so if
26:28
people want to look it up, you can. Can you spell
26:30
that for me? Pardon? What was the last name?
26:34
His name? Alden, Alden Hills. Alden? Alden Hills
26:38
Organic Farm. Okay. But yeah, usually in most
26:43
areas, there's local farms around. We are trying
26:46
to get a quarter from him this summer, so we'll
26:50
see if we can snag that. The big thing is always
26:54
trying to store it as well, so. That's true,
26:56
that is true. So Facebook Marketplace, you can
26:59
always find like a cheap freezer, so there's
27:01
ways to do it. Yeah, we try to stick to our local
27:04
farmers as well, just also support them, and
27:07
I know it's a major struggle for a lot of farmers,
27:10
especially these days, so we love supporting
27:12
our local farms. So. Let's just move into at
27:20
sea naturals. Like I want you to just like kind
27:23
of start at the beginning. Like I know you said
27:25
it was a family business. So just kind of start
27:28
there and tell us how it was born and like what's
27:31
going on with it now and all the things. Of course
27:34
sure. Yeah, so I'd see first off is named after
27:38
my great -grandma her name was Ursula I believe
27:43
she's born in Germany and came over To America
27:47
and so her name was Ursula. They called her at
27:49
sea for short. It's her nickname but yeah, so
27:54
my family's been in the support industry for
27:57
actually multiple generations at this point.
28:00
So my grandpa on my dad's side, he used to work
28:06
for his brother and his brother ran supplement
28:09
companies like in the 60s, like early kind of
28:12
days. And then my dad grew up doing that and
28:18
he ended up essentially working for his uncle.
28:22
And by the time he was 19, he was running all
28:24
his factories. So he, my dad's a super industrious
28:28
guy. He ended up starting his own brand about
28:32
35, 40 years ago called Ortho Molecular Products.
28:37
They sell to doctors, offices all across the
28:40
U .S. So if you do like functional or integrative
28:44
healthcare, those are typically, that brand Orthos
28:49
in all the clinics. Oh, that's awesome. So yeah,
28:52
so he started that from the ground up, way back
28:56
in the day. And then he's built that company,
29:00
you know, over the years, and he has an awesome
29:02
team there. And so growing up, that was like
29:05
our dinner table discussions is talking about
29:08
health, health and wellness. And we'd have like,
29:12
I would call them semi famous people like come
29:15
over to the family dinner, like Jordan Rubin,
29:18
he started like ancient nutrition. And so that
29:22
was like a lot of our, yeah, just growing up
29:24
is just conversation, what we talk about. And
29:28
so, yeah, so that was kind of always the background.
29:30
And then when I finished college, Dad was like,
29:34
well, what do you want to do for your work? And
29:37
what do you think in? And he's like, I had this
29:40
idea for kind of a newer brand that we could
29:42
launch and kind of, you know, kind of go a different
29:46
direction from ortho and build something that's
29:48
unique. And what we saw is For doctor brands
29:52
like Ortho, there's a different quality product
29:55
that's available. If your doctor has their office
29:59
versus what you would find out like Target or
30:01
GNC or something like that. There's just a different
30:05
type of product. And so we're like, what if we
30:07
can take that same quality product that's in
30:09
the doctor channel and then make it available
30:12
on Amazon or at health food stores? So that's
30:15
where we built out Etsy. And so we've been going
30:19
for a while now, and then Dad's kind of co -running
30:24
it, or running it, leading it, and then I took
30:28
over as CEO, president, whatever, last year.
30:33
So I've been running it kind of the last year
30:34
and a half. And so yeah, it's been really enjoyable.
30:38
A lot of our viewpoints on health and nutrition,
30:42
as far as our supplements, is we look at kind
30:45
of what are the first of the basics. And so we
30:47
have a really fantastic multi -vitamin, multi
30:50
-mineral. And one of the things that we're missing
30:53
from our diet is not only the vitamins, but a
30:56
lot of the minerals. We're just not getting it
30:58
in our foods. And so our essentially use kind
31:02
of that baseline multi -vitamin, multi -nutrient
31:05
is what we call it, that folks can kind of fill
31:08
in all those gaps. And then from there, we've
31:10
kind of branched out to different products over
31:12
the years. So we have some really fantastic products
31:14
for heart health, for sleep, sleep and stress.
31:20
And then it's really nice stuff for kind of seasonal
31:23
challenges with like sinus and respiratory type
31:27
of things for spring. And then a new product
31:31
we launched last year. And one of the first products
31:35
that I've taken from like kind of conception
31:37
all the way through was called Microplastics
31:40
Daily Detox. And so I've been really, I spent
31:43
two years researching microplastics and their
31:45
impacts. And so It's crazy because there's actually
31:50
not a lot of research of how to get rid of microplastics.
31:55
What's there in your body? We know they're kind
31:56
of everywhere and in everything, but there's
32:00
not a lot known of how kind of the body works
32:02
through them. So I started digging into whatever
32:05
research I could find, and we built one of the
32:08
first products ever kind of focused towards that,
32:10
where it's helping your body to naturally kick
32:13
these things out. I love that one. Does it cross
32:16
the blood brain barrier? Your supplement, do
32:19
you know that? Oh, that's a good question. I
32:22
have to look into that Primarily, we're looking
32:26
at how our product works is helping to support
32:28
your body's natural detox pathways Okay God's
32:31
given us an amazing system that's able to kind
32:34
of tag some of these particles and remove them
32:36
The issue is is we get exposed to so much that
32:40
a lot of these plastic particles end up getting
32:42
embedded in into our tissue And so what we found
32:47
is with an interesting phytochemical called sulforaphane,
32:52
it basically helps to amp up some of the detox
32:55
phase two processes and kick the microplastics
32:58
out. So yeah, so it's pretty cool. I've been
33:03
testing on microplastics. There's like some blood
33:06
tests that are starting to be out there, but
33:08
it's crazy because the entire field is like brand
33:10
new. And even a lot of the testing is hard. The
33:15
accuracy is actually really tricky because a
33:17
lot of labs are all people use gloves and they
33:20
use plastic vials and everything is plastic.
33:23
I know. So and all of our food is wrapped in
33:26
it. I always like when I'm cooking. I'm like,
33:28
you can't win. Everything's in plastic. Yeah,
33:33
it's it's a tough one in many ways. And but yeah,
33:38
but I'm excited. because that's a good product
33:41
to kind of like if you think you have you know
33:44
kind of an excess exposure it can be a nice way
33:46
to help alleviate that especially for folks that
33:49
travel a lot you know like I was just traveling
33:53
in Texas last week and Like if everything feels
33:58
like it's in plastic already at your house, when
34:00
you travel on the road, like every food, every
34:03
drink of water you have, everything comes out
34:05
in a plastic bottle. So yeah, we're trying to
34:09
help build products that help people to thrive
34:13
despite all the toxins that we're exposed to.
34:16
Yeah. So how often would you recommend taking
34:18
that one? So we built that as we call it daily
34:22
detox. So it's not like a... Heavy hitter one
34:26
week and you feel terrible the whole time. It's
34:28
kind of a light daily process that helps to support
34:31
your body on a daily basis Exposed to microplastics
34:34
on a daily basis. So We're kind of giving you
34:38
that daily support. That's kind of how we look
34:40
at it. Right So what would you recommend for
34:42
someone just starting out? Maybe they're not
34:46
taking any supplements maybe They were like me
34:50
and a couple years ago found out they had some
34:52
autoimmune disease or cancer. What would you
34:54
recommend for them just starting out? Yeah. I've
35:00
actually thought about this a decent amount and
35:02
I don't know if I have an amazing answer right
35:04
now because it's something that I actually want
35:07
to build out kind of like a baby steps of health,
35:10
kind of like Dave Ramsey. Yeah, I love that.
35:12
But yeah, I think one of the first things is
35:15
just The things I would look at is just moving
35:18
daily. So exercising your bodies, whether that's
35:21
going to the gym or just going for a walk, you
35:23
know, getting in steps. I think that's a huge
35:26
lever that we can pull is making sure we move
35:29
our bodies and we're sweating. I've talked with
35:32
a lot of doctors and you talk about detox, right?
35:36
Your free detox is pee, poop, sweat. That's free.
35:40
Those are things we can do every day. And so
35:42
eating good foods, getting fiber, moving our
35:45
bodies and sweating, we remove a ton of toxins
35:48
that way, and then drinking enough water to help
35:52
flush things out. So those are free things that
35:55
anyone can do. And it just takes some focus on
35:59
those areas to add into your daily routine. Right.
36:04
So how do you feel about all the biohacking,
36:07
like the red light, saunas? like I've been jumping
36:10
on the trampoline, because I have the MTHFR gene,
36:13
so I already don't detox the way I'm supposed
36:15
to. So I try to move my lymphatic system daily.
36:21
So I've heard like just jumping on a mini trampoline
36:24
can help open that up. So I try to do that on
36:26
a daily basis. But how do you feel about all
36:28
those biohacking? Yes. Newly things that are
36:31
coming out. Like there's so much. Yeah, so So
36:37
I like biohacking in a sense, where I like kind
36:40
of like, oh these are interesting things we can
36:41
learn and we can apply. So I like kind of like
36:45
more of the lower lo -fi biohacking kind of stuff.
36:51
I do have an issue though with like kind of more
36:54
the Brian Johnson crazy biohacking where people
36:57
are trying to live forever. I don't agree with
37:00
it. And I have some pretty strong views. So yeah,
37:05
so I think it's like, you know, red light, grounding,
37:08
all these like types of things awesome, like
37:09
great things to do. And those are kind of things
37:11
we've traditionally always done as humans, right?
37:15
But kind of all these like crazy space lasers,
37:19
psychedelic drugs, I'm like, you guys have lost
37:21
the plot. And so I think a lot of it comes from
37:28
a non -Christian view. It's like, all they have
37:31
is the here and now, and so they're just trying
37:33
to optimize that for as long as possible. And
37:35
so it's like, for me, my life isn't just my body.
37:41
It's my faith of going to heaven and some of
37:44
the legacy with my girls beyond me, too, as well,
37:47
but it's like... So my hope is in this world,
37:50
and that's not what I'm trying to, you know,
37:52
invest everything into. Right. And like you said,
37:54
some of those things are free, too. Like going
37:56
outside and stepping in the grass, getting red
37:58
light from the sun is, I mean, so beneficial,
38:01
especially if it's the first thing in the morning.
38:02
Like, just letting your eyes be exposed to that.
38:06
and just go out and sit on your deck for like
38:08
10 minutes in the sun and stand in your grass.
38:11
It's free and it's simple and it's something
38:12
that can really help your body. So that's really
38:15
cool. just get some morning sunshine like do
38:30
all the the basics first and then if you want
38:32
to get a little fancy and you really like the
38:34
tech and stuff like you know you can kind of
38:36
layer it on but none of that's needed to live
38:39
a healthy life if you think about traditionally
38:41
there's like there's I think there's been like
38:45
a hundred billion people in the history of the
38:47
world sounds like I read the stat and it's like
38:49
no one had red light panels until the last like
38:53
50 years and guess what people have thrived for
38:56
generations and so So yeah, so it's like it's
39:00
fun to play with but by no need, you know By
39:03
no means do you need all that to live a healthy
39:05
life? Yeah So have you heard about the nicotine
39:09
train? Have you jumped aboard on that or how
39:11
do you feel about nicotine like the gum and the
39:13
patches? I know it's a big topic right now, and
39:16
it's very controversial Yes, yes, yes, so I have
39:21
I guess you could say in the past and like last
39:25
year is one of those things like huh, I was kind
39:27
of interested, because I read a bunch of the
39:30
research on it as a kind of a neurostimulant.
39:33
It was interesting. But then I realized that
39:36
there's a crazy addictive piece to it. And it's
39:39
something that I'm like, I don't want to add
39:41
that to my life. I already drink way too much
39:44
coffee. That's my drug of choice. And then I've
39:48
also seen a bunch of young men. that I know and
39:52
they have gone too far on that train and I think
39:56
it can slip into an addiction as well in a very
39:59
negative sense. So I'm, I would say anti -nicotine
40:03
and if you're gonna do it I would say do very
40:07
low dose and do it in a form factor that does
40:10
not have a quick hit release. So a lot of like
40:12
the pouches that you put in your lip and it's
40:16
like instantaneous. And I think that's going
40:20
to be in that negative because you are going
40:22
to the addictive nature of that and it's very
40:25
high and it's very easy to do. And so patches
40:30
that are kind of more slow release or even gum
40:32
seem to be better options. And it's kind of more
40:36
of a slow feed that your body gets over time
40:40
versus this quick hit, because your body's gonna
40:42
want that quick hit continually. And then, you
40:46
know, you have someone that's going through like
40:47
a pack of zins a day, and it's like, that's not
40:50
healthy. Yeah, not beneficial at all. That's
40:54
right. Okay, Daniel, I like to ask my guests
40:56
these three questions on every episode. What
40:59
is your favorite Bible verse? It could be for
41:01
this season, it could be of all time, it could
41:03
be anything. The one I always come back to is
41:07
2 Corinthians 521, and I can read that too, I
41:11
put it on here. This is New King James' version,
41:15
but it says, for he made him who knew no sin
41:17
to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness
41:21
of God in him. So that's my all -time favorite.
41:25
Every time I come to it, it's kind of like...
41:28
If you read within context too especially, it's
41:30
like kind of shivers. He's just like, it kind
41:33
of blows my mind every time. Yeah. What is one
41:36
thing you would tell your younger self? I would
41:41
tell my younger self to take more risks. I think
41:44
it was more like I'm more of a perfectionist
41:47
by nature. And so I like to have everything be
41:50
as perfect as possible. As I've gotten older,
41:54
I realize life in this world is very messy. And
41:57
so kind of just taking imperfect action is a
42:00
lot better. And so taking more risks, I think,
42:03
I think that would have suited me very well.
42:06
But I'm learning now, too. So that's OK. Yeah.
42:09
You still got a lot of life ahead of you. And
42:12
what legacy would you like to leave behind? So
42:16
I think from a family standpoint, I think is
42:20
my daughters, my five daughters. and just pouring
42:23
into them and their lives and and who they might
42:27
become and and their children who their children
42:30
might become like there's just that's a legacy
42:31
right there and so I think there's that um and
42:36
then from like a work perspective uh I would
42:39
say I think if I could have a legacy of impacting
42:44
um the health of people helping people live healthier
42:47
lives through creating helpful products or information
42:51
or books. I think that would be amazing. And
42:54
that's kind of where my life's work is gonna
42:56
be on that side of things. And so I would love
43:00
to have impact there. Yeah, I love that. So let's
43:04
have a little fun. We'll move on to rapid -fire
43:06
coffee or tea. Coffee, oh yeah, coffee. Early
43:11
bird or night owl? Oh, that's way too early.
43:16
That's one of my defaults. I am not a morning
43:18
person. So if you have any advice for morning
43:20
people, that would be great. Sweet. I just can't
43:28
do it. I can't. Sweet or salty? Sweet. Favorite
43:43
vacation? Oh, goodness. This is a big debate.
43:48
I'm not a beach person. Oh, I like history and
43:52
like mountains and stuff like that and adventures.
43:55
And she's more like, oh, let's just go to go
43:58
to the beach. Same question. I'm your favorite
44:02
vacation. I'll say a history tour in something
44:05
historic area like Boston or something like that.
44:09
Have you ever been to Boston? Yeah. Have you?
44:12
Yeah, I would like to go sometime. If your life
44:14
had a theme song, what would it be? Oh, goodness.
44:22
I'm so bad at remembering songs. I don't know.
44:27
We'll go Happy by Farrell. Oh, I love that. I
44:31
like it to be. How about I like it to be? There
44:33
you go. What is your go -to for best relaxation?
44:40
For me, I'd say my comfort, my wife and I, we
44:43
like to watch Frasier. My husband does too, that's
44:48
so funny. I watch half an episode of Frasier
44:50
and go to bed right away. He does it for me every
44:53
time. He's Frasier, cheers. Yeah, it's funny.
44:59
Something you can't start your day without? Coffee.
45:02
Yeah. And if you add... What's your favorite
45:05
coffee brand? I'm just interested in coffee.
45:09
I'm a bit of an enthusiast. That's cool. So I
45:13
buy my own coffee and I roast it and do a pound
45:16
per week. And then I do usually a V60 coffee
45:19
every morning, which is like a pour over. Yeah,
45:22
that's what I just recently switched to pour
45:24
over just because I didn't want to be drinking
45:26
out of plastic. And I buy my own coffee beans
45:30
that are like organic and mold free and I grind
45:32
them myself. So I just recently started doing
45:34
that and it tastes a lot better. I think it does.
45:38
If you had a warning label, what would it say?
45:48
on the spot in these. I didn't keep some of these
45:51
because I wanted them to go fresh, but I should
45:53
have. You should have read over them. The winning
45:56
label would be, I don't know, I think if I'm
45:59
focused, give me some space. There you go. All
46:04
right, Daniel, I want to thank you so much for
46:05
your time for coming on today and just for my
46:08
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46:11
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46:15
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46:18
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46:21
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46:23
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46:26
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