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NFC Deep Dive, Must-Target Players & Mock Draft Review · Fantasy NFL Today

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  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, what up, everyone?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Samo Sales here, the host, the NFL fancies today show.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I got my special guest for camera.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We're doing the sequel.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was what, you know, to decision the first round.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You're a big rocky guy, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I do like the movies, a big rocky four guy, but to say I'm a big rocky guy, I'm not sure I would say that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I grew up with the VA guests, so I watch stuff, you know, every, every weekend.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But so it's August, twenty seven.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is this fantasy football week, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is a drafts going on.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I've been slow drafts as fast drafts as mock drafts.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, there's, you know, every dude that's new is breaking every hour.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so Rick, how are you?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: How you handle this week?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And also, thanks for coming up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's my pleasure, John.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Great to be back on the air with you, man.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's a busy, busy time, John.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All the stuff we have going on over in the basketball division.
• 0:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're two and shows four times a week and I've got a WMBA show and so we got all that and then you've got all this stuff trying to close the deal on WMBA championships, John, I'm in four championship rounds.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: of that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know you think I'm crazy, but but I've looking to close those deals.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Last year, I was three out of four and winning chips this year.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to be for out of seven.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It dipped a little bit because of Caitlin Clark, she never plays.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you know, just fantasy baseball trying to close the deal on ships there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in ten fantasy baseball league.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a super, super busy time, John.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: But in last night, I did a high stakes college football fantasy draft.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: John, I'm going to make you laugh here, the format, four quarterbacks, six running backs, six wide receiver, tight end and flex, and it's all a college football, a hundred and a hundred and thirty four teams, all of division one.
• 1:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a high stakes thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So that took about two and a half hours last night, man.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a busy, busy time, but there's nothing I'd rather be doing.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so yeah, and the pre still you asked me how many leagues I didn't how many how many leagues are you and just to say just NFL football because otherwise we're getting three digits.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like twelve or thirteen NFL and like when you out in the college it'll be around fifteen Wow, and then how do you prioritize you have it?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you do it by like I said I do mine by the buy-in?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have it like how old you been doing it during the West?
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: John you already know it's fine
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine, you go over the money, okay?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Where do you know if it's in two, fifty, one, fifty, one, it all stacks.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously the cam dynasty, right?
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's my backyard.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so that's obviously getting, you know, but I, I groom all of my teams do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know you do too.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like you got those, your backyards.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got a groom, you got a manicurum, you got a, they got to be updated every single day.
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's our lifestyle, man.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to dive in all sorts of stuff.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just stay here for a second.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So you got all these teams.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a strategy like you have a my guys you trying to spread it out?
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You try maybe take like I'm just going to go all in on the couple second third round guys and if they don't hit I'm screwed or if they do I'm set like are you trying to win it all with most of it be can just be content.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm always trying to win it all.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I and I and I
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't deviate, you know, in baseball, I've got a method, John, and it's a hardcore method.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's very, very, very, very, very deviant from the way everybody else plays and I dominate because of that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't deviate from it.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't have a methodology and football that is blankedly dominant is my method in baseball, because there are different sports in the math that's different.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the unpredictability of the sports is different.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, yeah, man, I just, I do have my guys.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've got guys that I'm avoiding, you know, the career year guys, like Sake One Barclay.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll not have a single share of Sake One Barclay on any team because he's coming up at two thousand yards and every two thousand year of Russia crashes to Earth the next year.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he will James Cook, another guy.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like Ray Davis.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: James Conner's a thousand years old.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of like Ray Benson.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I like James Conor, I do, but the guy's old, he's in the last year of his deal with Arizona.
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's time for that transition to occur, where they get a little trade Benson direction.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's a sleeper that I've really been trying to go after.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like Tyrone Tracy.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the, the cam's scatterbo stop is super, super fraudulent, John.
• 4:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like his body type is not that of a guy that's gonna last like he he doesn't have quick twitch yet a horrible forty time a lot of times you see got Cody Shrader for example complete rock star at Missouri unbelievable college player horrible forty time he's barely on a roster
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the league is going to chew up and spit out Carson steal the league is going to chew up and spit out will ship Lee and these guys these yeah, these guys aren't going to last for a long at all.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we had a bull falls into that.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have a lot to cover, but it says the will ship Lee, so you don't like fake ones, so you don't have a natural A plus B equals will stipulate.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I do with Ray Davis and Buffalo to your point, but no, I mean, I, I'm kind of on a AJ Dylan thing, but I thought I read that he's that he's starting to trust me.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not in the AJ Dylan, but all of those, all those two guys, I like AJ Dylan a lot more than will ship, please.
• 5:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, man, I want, I watched will ship please, entire career eclipse.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I recorded you, right?
• 5:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, like used him in fantasy, you know, college football fantasy and stuff.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm very, very, very familiar with Will Shipley.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: His measurables weren't great.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: His forty time what I'm obsessed with forty time, man, obsessed because that's what translates to the NFL.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to be able to move those puppies.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, oh my god, there's just so much I want to go to.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so let's do, we're going to cover the NFC team, so that's going to take us a while.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to go quickly to the mock draft, because we're talking about guys we like, and everyone in the provinces, that's fantasy guys, like we like so many guys, right?
• 5:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, you gotta put your, you know, your money where you're mouth is.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we had the draft, I had first pick, you had second pick.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You love, like, taste, you take taste first, like who are you hoping for, or like, let's say you had four, three, you hoping for, like what's your order of that top hierarchy?
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you, you buzz killed me, John, with, you know, I mean, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: you get out of the bell counts really early and now you're into the abyss of time sharebacks right or two third one third backfields is opposed to the dominating uh... bell counts so i'm always trying to get you know be john and there are canry uh... you know henry and cmc and obviously that's unrealistic but but you get them point i'm trying like so in our league john um... you take be john and i'm like
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to the draft right here.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, I'm not taking sake one.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's just a no.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like, like, Jamir Gibbs.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: He might have had that career year last year, but he's really good.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's on a really good team.
• 7:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so like, I'll still mess with him.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm still looking at him like, like, bro, was that the peak?
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if it is, that's an automatic fade for me.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So then the rest of guys, right?
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a bunch of wide receivers.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not taking them.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, no, I'm just not.
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, okay, it's Chase.
• 7:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, am I really going to take Derek Henry at number two?
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't, right?
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then Henry went at the end around one to where our boy Williamson.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So then, John, it was the, please, please, please, the whole second round all the way back to me.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, don't take Bucky Irving.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't take Bucky Irving.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't take Bucky Irving leave it.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't, and so I got him at two eleven, and then you made your two picks and I was like, don't take Kyron, don't take Kyron, because these to me are two bell cow guys.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: McFace has always been a bell cow guy, Rashad's hurt and Tampa.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I saw an arrow down on Sean Tucker.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: His preseason numbers have been great.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do like that player, but fuck your image.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Green lit for yes and volume.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was joking.
• 8:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't sleep.
• 8:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so I had to get those two guys.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, OK, I feel good about my team right now.
• 8:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got my two bell cows, a little out of order.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so that was kind of my thinking there.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: OK, so but so taste though, right?
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Your year after he kind of just had a career year, right?
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's numbers were insane.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: OK, it's a great point by you.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So four years ago, he went ultra large, right?
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like a little team touchdowns, like just insanity numbers, right?
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, miss some games due to injury and when he played the numbers were great, but the last two, those middle two years, uh, were like hard to tell.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're, so I was kind of like,
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like the Jamir Gibbs thing that you've got to diagnose the career year.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, John, I missed diagnosed that.
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that was his career year.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It'll never be top.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is a generational future Hall of Fame all-time grade level player.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And with
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Future all-time future Hall of Famer all-time great players John like Emmett Smith.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those guys just churned out badass year after badass year after badass year and they didn't fall prey to the career your thing because that's how good they are.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got like James Cook, right?
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did we ever see James Cook having a season like he had last year while he was at Georgia?
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: The answer is no.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did I ever think he popped?
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: What was it?
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Twenty touchdowns last year John.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did we had eight, eighteen?
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nice old in nineteen sixteen resting in the like two three receiving.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I never saw James Cook having close to twenty touchdowns.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about you.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I thought, ten, eleven, twelve.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like the the normal really bad astah.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Eighteen, nineteen.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, so I got, I got to fade you coming up and that because I just don't think he's a good enough player to support that.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Sake one, Barclay, John, is a, is a generational future, all of fame guy, right?
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: However, the two thousand yard fade is undefeated.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Every single two, it is.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's undefeated.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Every single two thousand yard rushers come way back to earth the next year.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So,
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so let's sound this James Cook thing, right?
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was actually big on him last year because he had about fifteen hundred all purpose yards.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Josh Allen, I think had about fourteen rushing touchdowns, but previous season he'd average about six, seven eight.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I thought if he's rushing goes down and then digs and gave Davis were gone, it was a perfect spot for James Cook to go.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had the super blow up.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody could see that coming, but it's about kind of more situation or than talent, right?
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Buffalo.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got running QB, which opens up the lane for the running backs.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got a great online.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now you got a great defense so they're up in games a lot so they're gonna be running a lot like that's kind of the team I'm targeting for running back versus just I almost ignored the town same with the the argument for getting our J Harvey and Denver, but so So that's why I like James Cook because I like Buffalo that's why like Ray Davis because he'd be if James Cook might not be that good, you know who knows what Ray Davis is gonna get
• 11:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, the diagnosis of roster construction and game script and in all that, I think is super clever.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's bang on.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: For me, in a lot of times like that would be the dominant element of the conversation, but for me, what predominates, what the guy like James Cook is, dude, that was your career year.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, when when Raheem most had had his explosion year, what was that two years ago?
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was the most automatic fade ever.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jamal Williams when he popped for that high team touchdown total.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was an obvious fade the next year.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that angles pretty close to undefeated as well, John.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so let's just say on this mock draft for a bit.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I love your early picks, but I got to kind of got to come out to you like, yeah.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I felt like the wheels came off.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've been reading my stuff like the older like the you you want to step on digs who's going to be toast.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you took advantage of Travis Kelsey you took all these thirty plus players who's you best years are behind them.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: They don't really have a ceiling and just to get back to and even a top anything it's going to take almost a marathon.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So was this a dynasty draft or a redraft?
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not a redraft.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, every draft.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not really, I'm not sweating age with that.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so the the Devante Adam's pick I'll be honest was an auto pick.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was my only auto pick of the draft.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't hate it though.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I looked around.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who would I have?
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where's the pick?
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I didn't hear.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see you here.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because Mike Evans was already gone.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, fourth round for Mike Evans, Mike goodness.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're at the end of the fourth round here.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, DJ Moore to Montes Smith, DK MECF, Jamison Williams.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm probably taking Devante over those guys.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I wasn't mad at that pick.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Devante can have a good year with Stafford out in LA.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Took my homes.
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: What wasn't crazy about that, but
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like is Mahal was going to get back to like forty touchdown forty five hundred yard now homes.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't disagree with that.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would bet against it, but like it's on the back of his football card.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can we get back to that?
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, stuff on digs.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: to me is going to have a good year.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I really like Drake May.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: The reports are the digs is going to start week one and be ready for week one.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: The guy prints statistics every year.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm impressed that he's hustled and got ready to this point.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's always been working on his body.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, John, I respect your opinion and you're not liking those picks, but I'll defend those picks.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it just digs to, I just, I wrote the, I did the age clip.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we did the pod.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about it and I really wanted to dive in and it's crazy.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like Julio Jones, one of the best Widerstevers all time, one of my favorites, right?
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thirty one.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has the Widerstevers two.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Turned thirty two.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fell off a cliff.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was like the Widerstevers sixty two.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are sometimes there aren't any signs.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way for it.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just his arbitrary number when they hit it.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like your two thousand russia almost nobody beats it.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So even my heavens.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fading.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fading them all.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like Leo with my wider severs.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who would say the twenty five?
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm dumping them.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm and I'm you know later on the draft that took Cooper Cup probably wasn't a popular pick with you even later in the draft even later in the draft that took Tyler Lockett probably not a real popular pick with you, John.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, so we'll just we can move on to the mock draft.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's take let's not the don't see draft for a bit because I once we did the NFC I know that's just going to take the whole pod.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we did the rookie draft what what are the big kind of movers and chambers when we did that draft what in July to now like if we did the draft again, who do you think would be the biggest guys that are would be shifting.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let me actually
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... prepped an answer to that let me uh... let me go here john all right the guys that i like more now um... i didn't necessarily frame it dynasty uh... but the guy the guys that i like more now through the process terry uh... terry godwin
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, wow, of old school blasts from the, Terry Godland came out of my mouth.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Chris Godwin of the Buccaneers.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm feeling better about him.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's, I'm not real high on him, but like I'll draft him now.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Egg Booga, uh, with the way he's played in the preseason.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a loved him at Ohio State.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Love the spa.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jill and McMillan has that God bless in that nasty neck injury.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, feel really good about Egg Booga right now.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Diggs with the with the promising news we're hearing about him likely's dinged up so mark Andrews Matthew Golden of Green Bay.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Killin it loved him at Texas.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a forty time guy.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm upset with the forty.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm obsessed with the forty time guys and he's one of them and then Tyrone Tracy who who I already mentioned so those are the that's the cluster of guys that I'm liking more now than versus early in the process.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I was at a book I was so interesting because I mean, he's kind of the fancy darling everyone's talking about a book up.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're like me, I'm the only one fading Mike Evans.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Chris Godwin, he's done the pop.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not playing it.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: If a book was a wide receiver one on an offensive through for forty one touchdowns, like it's he what?
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: A top twenty wider receiver, top fifteen.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's going to be the slot he's going to be getting tons of usage.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got great hands.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I think I got him the seventh.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like he's almost like a fourth fifth round pick.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we view it differently because, I mean, I'm really high in a boooka, but my Kevin's is one of these, I think he justifies your rule.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he defies my rule of my rule would be a career year.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like we could look at my Kevin's history right in pinpoint that career year.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that all my God year.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, guess what?
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: He kept doing it, doing it.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: What is it?
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ten straight years of a thousand.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Elijah?
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Eleven, I think?
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Eleven, my God.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, stop it.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, and you've got to be over, over, over all time great elite to defy these patterns and trends, John, that we have crafted over the years with our fantasy expertise.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: But for me, Mike Evans is one of those guys.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, digs, I'm not John, I'm not willing to die on that hill.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But with Mike Evans, I'm willing to die on that hill.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here to hear first.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mike Evans will not have a thousand yards receiving this season.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, you, uh, and I disagree with that.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: What, uh, but I hear you, bro.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hear you.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we, we, we, we didn't a big breakdown of the Fc last time.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: We could just crack the NFC.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go the NFC North.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got all sorts of fun.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really, you know, random stats to get and get you.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that you figured out the game about a twenty five percent of the way through, uh, you know, the player is usually on the team we're talking about.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, but NFC North, who's maybe the best of is in football, uh, a lot of big changes.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I start with Minnesota, right, darn old out.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: JJ McCarthy and I think you love JJ McCarthy, right?
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, sir.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say I can't stand him.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say it like that.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he may be a great.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He may be a great young man, right?
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know him at all.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: John, I'm going to I'm going to say it like this.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: JJ and you know, huge college football guy, huge college football fantasy guy.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that means I'm a draft analyst as well with all the knowledge I have with the college guys and I do, you know, mock drafts and that kind of thing.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the most overrated quarterback prospects of our generation.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully crap.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, John, I'm John.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bro, I'm telling you right now.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did they have a great defensive mission again when they won the nanny?
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did they have a great running game when they, you know, did they have a great offensive line?
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: if you say so.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so my point is imagine Trent Dillford winning the Super Bowl.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine Brad Johnson winning the Super Bowl.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what that was.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was a game manager.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: He would make the occasional play.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Always got way too much credit for his footwork and he's not a dual threat.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: But people talked about him like he's a dual threat.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's so sweet with his feet.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's occasionally sweet with his feet.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Justin Jefferson's not a full fade, but I'm not also super high on Justin Jefferson, like I'm not going to reach above ADP for JJ because because of JJ.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've seen he's kind of he's he'll be proof, but he's going to rate as a QB, you know, he's going to get a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but yes, but again, the enthusiasm is bridled by the quarterback.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: If John, you're more like, you may know some, and I actually reached out to Paul Allen, voice of the Vikings to try to get some intel.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you know, the Vikings are gonna reach out to Kirk Cousins?
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, why not?
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's dying on the vine in Atlanta.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Kirk Cousins would completely change.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, look, he's a playoff choke artist and they wouldn't win a championship with him.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'd be looking at the Viking off in so much differently with Kirk Cousins under center than JJ McCarthy.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: So are you hearing anything about Kirk Cousins being traded there?
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, because I think it's Penny's injury history.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they probably want to keep him in Atlanta.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Does that's my guess, but I think the Vikings had Sam Howell, right?
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: You traded for him in the Dynasty League?
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love them.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: They just traded him again.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then they traded him to Philly, you said, oh, I dropped out.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I thought, and how reportedly, and I checked with some people I know I'm in a Saudi, he was not good in training camp.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he did not have a good camp.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't perform well in the games.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I was to say, I'm how I got going back to North Carolina.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, had those moments with Washington.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I like this kid.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he can steal the job from JJ, but you know what, John, we get hunches, right?
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: We get vides.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of them don't pay off.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was one of them.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, no, I love saying, I said, well, I said that's great.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, Rick, Rick knows what's going on.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, first quiz question of the here.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: So only two last season, there are thirty one running backs that had at least hundred fifty carries.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Only two of them had at least fifteen percent of their carries go ten plus yards.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: One is your mere Gibbs.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who's the other one?
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm going to say Jamir Gibbs.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, Jamir Gibbs is the first one.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my bad.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, think of the game.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: What team are we out?
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, uh, wait a minute.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Was it Jordan Mason?
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jordan Mason.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so the only thing for the hit in the clue right there, but it's just, it's, yeah, I appreciate that.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's, wow, really?
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all right.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like, I got to ordinate in the mock.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's one of my must-have picks.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Aaron Jones is old.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He played sedentive games last year, right?
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if we're talking about teams like Buffalo, right, Minnesota, great old line, great offense.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got to play the state these back for Jefferson.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be up in games.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I just, I just think Jordan Mason is an absolute must have stuck this season.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even though he's not a great receiving back.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm buying that.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm smelling what you're cooking, especially the Aaron Jones played Seventeen games part because that in, it'll weird ways kind of career high as right for Aaron Jones to always misses a game or two doesn't usually like fully implode, but there's always some little stuff going on with him.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's a great call.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jordan Mason's a really good call.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with that.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so we're just prevention Gibbs.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go to Troy.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, absolute offensive superpower monster team, but the O line gets a bit of a downgrade.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: The defense looks like it's gotten a little bit better.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where do you where are you at on Detroit?
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he gives Monty, you know, same brown.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they look like a Super Bowl winning team to me.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have Aiden Hutchinson back.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, think about the ascent they made last year.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Aiden Hutchinson was not invited to that party.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now they're going to have one of the, one of the elite pass rushers in the NFL back on the field for them.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they're my pick to win the Super Bowl, John.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm all in on the Detroit Lions, man.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's great.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, one of my big themes is targeting teams and opportunities.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like Buffalo, Philly, Baltimore.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really want the passing part of those offenses on the rushing.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if Detroit is the defense takes that step up, is many same brown.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have it down here.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Changes to what, like, they're not going to be passing as much, maybe not as explosives.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So give us in Monti.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, do we want to back the rushing attack?
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because their team is going to just be blowing teams out.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I just think it all looks great.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm bullish on Laporta.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, when James Williams was in college, I called him the Tyree Killer College football.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this guy, he's one of the fastest players I've ever seen.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love James and Williams, and he's finally gotten like locked in, because there was some weirdness early in his career.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you got Laporta, you got him.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got him, you got him, care of the third guys.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got him on Ross Saint Brown.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: They throw to their backs.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've got two unbelief.
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have the best backfield in the league and Gibson Montgomery.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But if you protect your golf, he slices and dices.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He and two are the same guy.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you protect them, they slice and dice.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't, they take seven sacks and you lose, you know, twenty to three.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they have a great offensive line.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think they're winning the Super Bowl John.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've been knocking on the door.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've been going up the ladder each year and I think they break through this year.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Isaac Kessla, I think, is Isaac, or is that he's the third-wide receiver who had a great pre-season, right?
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's just an often can only feed so many mouths, right?
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: We know Gives is gonna eat, we know Monti's gonna eat, we know St.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Brad's gonna eat, the year before it was the two years ago, it was the Porto of that port, but what James Williams kind of took that spot?
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So why do you like the Porto this year?
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've nothing else on the offense, James.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, because golf loves tight ends in the red zone.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, and, and you've got, you, I mean, he's going to catch eighty ninety balls.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, because Jamison Williams isn't a volume guy, right?
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's the guy, you know, you've got your bread butter and a monorot.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've got Laporta.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, golf's back there.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shoot, you know, on a deep cross or he's got, you know,
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's the guy's two man steps behind him, right?
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me loft one up for a long touchdown, but he's not a bread and butter guy.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, a monro in in La Porta will be the bread and butter guys.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love Sam La Porta.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's gonna have a bounce back here.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was saying that it's earlier.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like to target the team's kind of up in common.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was comparing to fancy basketball where it's like you don't really want that one team.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't really want OKC and I had to head right because the fantasy playoff they're going to fit.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if Detroit's like, you know, again, fourteen and two or something fancy playoffs, maybe they're going to rest guys, right?
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like Detroit's peaked.
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're at the peak, and it's just not a team I would invest in, whereas I want somebody up and coming, so maybe the Chicago Bears, who got some of that Detroit IP, right?
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Especially for last year.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: So here we go.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me find it.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Caleb Williams, right?
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Of Caleb Williams, who are there in fifty four points?
• 26:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fifty five percent can't you come with the Bears trailing by at least a touchdown, right?
• 26:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So thirty five percent of his points were considered garbage fine.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now, you know, that's the kind of team I would invest in a team that's with down or an up and coming offense, but now with the O line better with Ben Johnson, where we out with Chicago, because all the signs point to a potential monster season.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm with it as a sleeper team, you know, I'm a Caleb Williams guy.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of people bang on them for a variety of reasons.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't get into any of that.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just love the talent.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And can we be even a fraction
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: patient with young quarterbacks.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, people like he's got to have every single riddle solved, you know, entering year two.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: The guy through for thirty eight hundred yards and twenty three touchdowns is a rookie.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: John, they're once upon a time.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you go back to the seventies and eighties, and I know different error in their throw more now, but like that number back in the day.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Would have been a gargantuan rookie year and now just, you know, or whatever his numbers were, I might be off a little bit, but he had a pretty good statistical years of rookie.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm into it.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like their backfield.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a swift guy.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll put who cares, they'll make it work.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I love their wide receivers.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've got the two pack of commit and lovelin it tight in.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Caleb Williams is a really, really good.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Second quarterback in a two QB league or if you're like if you've really been diligent with your business and you've got two rock stars then get him as your third QB.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm I'm high on Kayla Williams and I'm high on Chicago.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you, man.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's it for me.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just look for the situation step grade.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's take one one was he seemed like says an obvious one.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Giants affiliate monster.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's Caleb, so he's getting the offensive line up, great.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's getting the huge coaching upgrade, right?
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got some more weapons.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to lose their burden.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got cool, some love.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, why can't Caleb Williams have an absolute monster season?
• 28:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if we do like that, who do we like?
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm Robe Dude's egg.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love a corner.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't let anyone else on there.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shoot you.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I'm a Rome guy and I'm a DJ more guy.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not really into the tight ends John like from a team standpoint like you're really good at tight end if you've got lovelin and come up but fantasy wise.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: There are there are each others way.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think in a big way there.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, well, one of them separate.
• 28:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Cole commits paid, bro, money finds the field.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't think they're just going to bench him.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're probably going to split that up a little bit.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, yeah, I mean, I'm a DJ and more guy.
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: The back is football card looks pretty damn good, John.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, there's some great DJ more sad.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He caught he's really going to catch these un-catchable balls.
• 29:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And last year was kind of a year from hell from it.
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had a Caleb just weren't on the same page.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so it's just, uh,
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: The upgrade from the institutional support system there is going to be borderline, maybe not unprecedented, but amongst the biggest chunks of the league, right?
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: John, think about this.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Poor Justin Fields had to work with Matt Nagy and now Caleb Williams is working with Ben Johnson, okay?
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: That just kind of tells the whole story right there, huh?
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Matt Nagy just went and picked up Andy Reed's subway from around the corner and brought it back to the chief's facility.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was the wrong order.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a long order.
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: He got to chicken up the turkey and Andy reads all pissed off now.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so let's go.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the packers, packers are top because like a lot of teams, then that wire Steve Rubes crazy deep.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they just said Chris and Watson is going to be on the the pop or the IR.
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's out for the first four games.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You love Matthew Golden.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kayden read with the wire to see for one week one of the season.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You, right in that Brazil game.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, what do we do?
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing here?
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Josh take up just had a career here, but maybe not as fast as he led the rushing, I think three years ago, but he had a monster year.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing at the Green Bay?
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's a lot of talent, but it's kind of messy.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a jade and read guy.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of waiting on the jade and read pop.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know where he goes from like the seven eight touchdowns to ten where he goes from like the eight nine hundred yards to like ten fifty eleven hundred and he likes spikes with the resets right.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't seen that yet, but we've seen glimpses.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's been a really good touchdown score.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a forty time guy.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so he's can't bet it.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he's a good sleeper for me.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got this pesky food injury, John, that keeps kind of dogging him a little bit.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it has given me pause and soon drafts.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I mess with Jayden Reed.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Matthew Goldens probably would be in taking a little higher than it's comfortable for me for a rookie wide receiver.
• 31:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm grabbing shares of his, you know, I like that love thumb injury is on the non-throwing hand.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I, Jacob's
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just, he's one of those guys, John, that like, when he's zig's, I zag, when I zag, he's zig's like, we're just not on the same page at all.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm not really like, like we talked about, I would much rather have Bucky Irving or at Kyron Williams in that same kind of zone where people are taking Josh Jacobs.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have Bucky for sure, but yeah, Jacob's he was my huge fade last year and I read it totally wrong.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: But so but Green Bay couple things are like your love is like he's the real deal, right?
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love some just eye test.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just he throws that frozen rope like that fifteen yard little inner out and he hits the receiver like you know right here.
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just a big believer in love.
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: He got hurt week one.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He got hurt again in the middle season.
• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now they've got all the weapons, the coaches, one of the best coaches to leave, but you like to read, they really like to do that two-wide receiver set, right?
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to be Matthew Golden, Romeo Dobbs.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So with read that, I was just worried about him getting enough snack share because he had that four games shreds in the season where he had, I think, under twenty five yards and like four or five straight games.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he disappears from time to time, right?
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of mysterious.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You bring up a great, I mean, snap count is hugely important.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I want, I want guys when you go to, you know, football, reference, and you're looking at snap counts, I want to see one zero zero, right?
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you know, with my linebackers, right?
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want about seventy one percent linebacker.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want a hundred percent linebacker.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: You never come off the field.
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's give, I agree with everything you said about Jordan love.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's give this kids some credit, man.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: He got all messed up.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say, John, it was a Thursday night game against Billy helped me out too many games, too many parties, but he messed up his ankle or knee or something.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, no, love's good.
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: He missed like one week.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He barely missed time, but he's playing hurt.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, just so I give him credit for that.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like to me, Kyler Murray won't do that.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: John, he won't.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Calamare is a worse.
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's talented, but he's a worse.
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: He won't play hurt.
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Lamar Jackson to a degree doesn't really want to play hurt to me.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have a choice.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: You do not have a choice in the NFL.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have to play hers in NFL quarterback.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Rodgers did it.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stafford's played with broken bones.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Romal played with a broken back.
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to play him, man.
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree with you mostly, but I've also had an athlete and I've played hurt.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you also, you're not up to your potential and you post these, you're healing time.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So sometimes you can take that week off and get to a hundred percent and you're better in the long run for the team.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I agree, at this mentality, play her TV, zero, the QB, right?
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the downgrade from Jordan, loved a Malik Willis is quite steep.
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they still won games.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so that's the NFC North.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So this is my low key secret favorite division, the NFC South.
• 33:55
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• 34:00
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• 34:11
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• 34:14
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• 34:16
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• 34:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So first, so the NFC South, I'm just almost focusing my drafts on this division.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think this is a good defense there.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's underrated.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's undervalued.
• 34:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's start the Atlanta Falcons.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe my favorite team to invest in in fantasy in this entire season.
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't rock with you.
• 34:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're John because pitch to me looks like
• 34:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I mean, kind of busty.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And my dude, it's Florida.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I literally can't believe what's happening to cow pits in the NFL.
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I literally can't.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Trevor, Travis Henry, pardon me.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Travis ETN, same thing.
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Literally cannot believe that he's wary is right now in the NFL.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe Trevor Lawrence is wary is right now in the NFL.
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: These guys were
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: just unbelievable can't miss in college and they've all missed.
• 35:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so Pitz is a no, just because he's never popped.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a big panicked guy.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you've got the Darno Mooney injury, which is a buzz kill.
• 35:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then what's next?
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ray Ray McLeod.
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not in a Ray Ray McLeod.
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll mess with Drake London, but the defensive attention on him is going to be crazy.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, and I, I mean, B's John's my guy.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: B's John's the number one pick and fantasy football for me.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, so it's, it's kind of hitting Mr. John.
• 35:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I am a panic sky.
• 35:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I am a B's John guy.
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I'm, I'm taking running backs though when people are taking Drake London.
• 35:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not going to really have a whole lot of Drake London.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, yeah, that I hear you there, but Drake London.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's I got two other severs.
• 35:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I make exceptions for Drake London, Eagle Collins.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, quick step from week six on guess how many running backs to average more than twenty two point eight points for game Fantasy points from week six on yeah one Get who and who do you think it is?
• 36:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Say one.
• 36:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's these on.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh crap
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got a crap, I never thought it.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I overthought it, man, because we're on the Falcons, of course, the answer's new, John, my bad.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's an easy one, then.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: In three starts last season, no QB had an higher average depth of target than this QB.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Panics, right?
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's just like he's just, all he does is throw these bombs, drink London's a huge bomb receiver.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: He, I just,
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not leaving draft for that Drake London.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm looking like I said.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just looking to get a couple of backs at that point.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like if Drake London late first, early second, would feel better to me.
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mid first, I'm still looking for a back.
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's not for sure, the for sure, but it just in terms of that tier because it's just like, I think Atlanta up and coming off.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And defense is very good.
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Division sucks, schedule nice.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Panics is going to be throw these bombs.
• 37:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just I just loved.
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if there's in auctions, I might go to the beach on Drake and just spend a hundred bucks.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I'm just very, I'm just super excited about Atlanta.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who, but so do you like anyone else?
• 37:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're like Ray Ray with cloud made some noise last year now.
• 37:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 37:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I can't get with it.
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got he's got to grab me by the shirt collar off waivers.
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so panics he said you been called guy where where do you see his decent finishing is he four thousand is he four five hundred yards is he close to five thirty test bounds.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't really like his weaponry, so I mean, I think I think if he's getting to four thousand yards, twenty five touchdowns, I'll look at that as a really good year.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if he had some of these other wide receiver rooms, like I could go higher, but and it's also his first full year, right?
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be mistakes.
• 38:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to throw picks.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to take sacks.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to hold on to the ball too long.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to do all that stuff.
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like I'll give him four thousand yards and twenty five touchdowns.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the best I got and actually I think I'm being I think I'm being pretty generous with that.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: But what have half of that goes to London, right?
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And his three dark straight London was targeted eight times, thirteen times and eighteen times.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nice like it's just I did I just I'm just I'm so stoked.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to I'm watching every LAN a game to play I get the stack John the cool thing to is You you can throw in a double teams with Drake London because he's so big and athletic like there are some guys you can't you can't throw in a double teams you can't because they're not
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: imposing it up body wise, right?
• 38:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he is.
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I want to do it.
• 38:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've sold me on it.
• 38:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the turf, right?
• 38:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're playing Carolina twice.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're sorry.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they're, they're going to be shootouts.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shoot-on-separ Mercedes Ben stadium, dude, for sure.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So then we talked about Tampa bit.
• 39:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: We can move pretty quickly because we both love Bucky.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: We both love a Buka.
• 39:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: What?
• 39:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's just these are, are they, maybe a team from hell, though?
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because right, they lost their colon.
• 39:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: His baker going to be fine on his own.
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Has he figured it out?
• 39:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: But to a tail and a tail and a tail and a tail, God wouldn't help.
• 39:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Evans is lost.
• 39:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what are we doing?
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Kate?
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, you know, I just think, you want to differ so much in the Mike Evans thing.
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of the foundation of right.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I'm like, you're, you're in Germany and I'm in Australia on, on Mike Evans.
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's so.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm bullish.
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, John Gordon thinks they're winning the Super Bowl this year.
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't rock with that to me.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a bit wild.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: But John does reside in Tampa, former book and yours.
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Probably a little fanboy with that.
• 39:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think Baker's good to go because
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, man.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I understand Liam Cohen and QB Whisperer and all that, but Baker made field has been a stud at a variety of levels with a variety of ever coaches.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just think that Cleveland thing was a disaster for a variety of reasons.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then he bounced around a little bit because the NFL's full of a bunch of haters.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... they are the people to make decisions in the NFL are haters and uh... and so baker had to take the long road back but yet the talents always been there uh... and you know a man as long as he's got mike evidence on bullish on baker okay but two things baker was clear it wasn't that bad like they were cassey during that peak of homes cassey era
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: That year was fun.
• 40:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about like this subsequent years when you'll know off, right?
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, he, it were toe to toe with Casey.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they went ten or eleven games.
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: The stats were good.
• 40:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm a baker guy, man.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so that's it.
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get you back.
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what about Baita?
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Was that it?
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was his best year.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are we not worried about that, right?
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Through for forty plus touchdowns.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he can kind of even close to that.
• 40:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but or to Baker figure it out.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tristan Worfs is out.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a bit of a problem.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He lost his head coach.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of times where maybe we get a Tampa regression.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I look, I'm not disagreeing with any of that at all.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me, let me go to Baker here.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me, let me put these.
• 41:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love Baker too.
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I bet his rushing yards every single week in a big game.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you never, you never, maybe sweat.
• 41:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'm looking here.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking here.
• 41:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is, this is by far a career year.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but he also did it.
• 41:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mike Evans was out.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Godwin this time.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like he was, you know, relying on studs.
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was making his own advantage.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, this, this is, uh, John, this is a really, really tough case study for the career year theory.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: It really, no, it is.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's fascinating because, uh, he had four thousand yards, twenty eight, he's the year before in Tampa, so really good year and then backed it up with a better year, um,
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm gonna phrase it like this, John.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: There are, there are career year fades that are like full fades.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want nothing to do with you like St.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Juan Bartley.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then there are career year theory soft fades.
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where at the right spot, I'll still mess with you, but I'm gonna try to target other guys.
• 42:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Baker falls into that latter category because this is well diagnosed by you.
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Baker ever again is going to throw for forty five hundred yards and forty one touchdowns.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a massive, massive freaking season.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's a great great point by you.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I am going to say career your theory for Baker, but it's a soft fade, not a full fade.
• 42:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, because yeah, I still love a book.
• 42:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to grab them everywhere.
• 42:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Carolina, Carolina is one of my, I've just, every day, every week, I read more and I fall.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're at more love with this stupid Carolina team.
• 42:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, Gary is here.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 42:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, because Carolina when they lose week one, thirty to ten years, you're like damn it.
• 42:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's all for not?
• 42:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You need football to get your job.
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Last year from week twelve on, only two quarterbacks had more fantasy resting points.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Name one of them.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bryce, yo, right?
• 42:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: People talking with wrestling, you be these Bryce, young, he's a wrestling, you be.
• 43:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we want to set up, they got a terrible defense.
• 43:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got, right?
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got a good ol' line.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: They just invested in a, or they're in a with tat in the first round pick.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bryce Young, if he's not terrible, why is he like the QB- twenty three?
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to get all these garbage time points.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I love Bryce Young.
• 43:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love Tat.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love Tubahubbard.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to be, I'm all in the stupid Carolina team because they can't stop at it over getting thirty points.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that,
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, true, he's on the career, he's on the career, you're list.
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's a hard lead.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, hard fade.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's a hard fade because he's true, but Harvard, right?
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's just a good player.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's not a great, great.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.
• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's a full fade and, you know, in John, I don't want to sound like I'm telling you something you don't know because you know this.
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're all about game script and you think about the game deeper than I do.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's that's why.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
• 44:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, when when you can't get stops, a lot of times that ruins the running game in the second half of games when you're down, thirty to nine, you know, late third quarter, they stop running the ball or they just run the backup in because you're getting drilled by so many points.
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, it does lead to garbage time goodies from your QB who they leave in the game and all the wide receivers and stuff like that.
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot get behind Carolina in any way shape or form in reality, John.
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're going to start winning games all of a sudden.
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm feeling sad a little bit.
• 44:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I am Bryce Young.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, I'm taking other sleeper quarterbacks when it's when it's Bryce Young time.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather have panics, I'd rather have Caleb.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, that's just, I'm going with other guys at that zone where I'm looking for my third QB or my second QB to back up my one QB.
• 44:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's usually not him.
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, that's totally fair.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: But so a couple of minutes ago, you talked about goal, you've got golden ADP was a little too high for a rookie wider stever.
• 45:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd argue that the rookie wider stevers is, that's where all the gold is, right?
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Last year, I would lad Brian Thomas Jr., all these guys went late late and exploded.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And people say it's kind of a down here for wide receivers, you know, compared to last year, which is maybe the greatest ever.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: But like so does it's cat and golden.
• 45:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like he almost have to get them because the potential ceiling is is unlimited.
• 45:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as there's such great positions, like, you know, that's why I took tech second over the dynasty.
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just think, you know, because nobody knows.
• 45:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he had a great call of play.
• 45:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you loved that.
• 45:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, phenomenal college player.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, any, any, any huge and his measurements are good.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm a fan.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I, I mean, look, I'm stuck probably in some old school thinking on this.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, rookie backs, man, they fire a lot.
• 45:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is not rare for a rookie back to coming to dominate, twelve hundred yards, twelve thirteen touchdowns.
• 45:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: There were rock star college to put up to bat the pros and they kill it, right?
• 46:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: We see it frequently.
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, back in the day, John rookie wide receivers almost always sucked.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just did it.
• 46:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, Oh, Jones.
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they like the technology, the terminology, the terminology, but the terminology and separation and getting on the same page with the QB like it was just super vaccine for guys like really talented.
• 46:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: receivers back in the day.
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm probably guilty of of of of hanging on to that.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: John, because you're right, recently there's been a trend.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's all situation based, right?
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's all how much are you put up to bet because the Atlanta foul can shine as you know, did not put Drake may, uh, a far me, uh, Drake lunged in up to bat immediately.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like it took a year or two for him to to kind of work into that.
• 46:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's a, that's an intriguing Claire, man.
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: He really is.
• 46:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just because I, I'm just doing this all of a busy football and everybody's going this way with all these players.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I've just feel, I just trying to find, you know, okay, where are people not looking?
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's where the value is, right?
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody wants to draft price, young.
• 47:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody wants to draft Carolina Panthers.
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you get a little round to value, chisel them out, you know, I might get price in every league because I'm going to get them to late.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if he's a top ten cubi for me, right, that's a massive massive win.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you're right, you're gonna just feel.
• 47:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're like they're like he plays for Carol and they start right along.
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of times it's that simple.
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And also half of this might just be because I've got Bryce and Ted if you're dynasty league.
• 47:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm I'm geeked that you're geeked about my dynasty league and it fired up about your team and you're you got the Bryce young Ted McMillan stack dude.
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.
• 47:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm all in.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So next we got to who am I forgetting?
• 47:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the Saints.
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we could talk about them briefly.
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: One.
• 47:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, John, I just jumped your, you're in trouble.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't even have anything.
• 47:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just, it's a dumpster fire.
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: What can I say?
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like in Dynasty leagues and messing around with Tyler's shock, but it looks like Rattler's going to get the job.
• 47:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: He will face plant, you know, two, three, four weeks in.
• 48:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: He'll lose the job.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: She'll go get his shot.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: The team's going to absolutely suck this year.
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... commirram maybe traded uh... you know a lot of his got the concussion thing which can't end the in a huge quarterback promise on not into a lot of a not the whole thing's a fade from you do the whole thing yeah me too i would only really to talk uh... so the state is that a quick question here but looks a little convoluted to mone tell us did trade dj more Travis hunter godwin and nick chub for kittle refee rights payment in core
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can never handle these questions.
• 48:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's just too many gloving parts, but um, um, Blake Corham.
• 48:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really, so kiddo.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's hard because he says I have a Monroe, uh, Amber's line.
• 48:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Does he have a tight end?
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: got hurt.
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess he needs to tie it in.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, and the other thing is like who are you getting, right?
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: He says trade and I'm not really sure which side.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: And is it a dynasty leak?
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because if it's not a done half, it just feels just here we go.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I'm not high on Travis son or a redraft.
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the reports on shove is that he's washed.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Godwin's going to start the year on the popper, whatever, or e-practicing, but probably not playing for the first month.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, hi, I would, I'd rather have the kiddo rice badement core inside of that.
• 49:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty much just doing it just to get where she raced, but then it's still they said six games suspension.
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.
• 49:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, so we had a little bit of an hour.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got about ten minutes.
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you, you call him in?
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can go a little longer if you want.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's all good, man.
• 49:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he says he's getting Kiddle.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ten team.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ten team hat PPR.
• 49:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: All you want is the best player in the trade.
• 49:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Kiddle, the Chinese straight along.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he had Kyron, so it would be put in core and behind Kyron, which I like.
• 49:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that you have a blessing.
• 49:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So with a suck running backs because it seems like that's really what fantasy is about.
• 49:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there's so many backup running backs that that that potential and somebody rookie running backs like how do we sort through the madness like who do you looking to target like all is it all the who's the main guy is all the Gordon.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all the Gordon, you know, I, Jalen Wright is not going to work out.
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just seems like every news reporter going to Jalen Wright is is negative.
• 50:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Every time I look at his name on any of my teams has got a red of red injury flag by it, right?
• 50:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like where are we going with all that?
• 50:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... like oligård um... i saw oligården play who's you play jacks and bill last weekend he looked good running guys over uh... looks like he's very fit uh... the guy was an absolute rock star in college now oligården's not a forty-time guy okay that's why he slipped in the draft uh... but i'm looking at him very very deep i'll give you i would rather have tosh brooks uh... like like like way late because samazi p-rind come on
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Samaji P-Rine is, how do I want to say this?
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's in a way.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Taj Brooks brings way more to the party than Samaji P-Rine, who, dude, he's got friends in high places.
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: How is Samaji P-Rine still on a job in the NFL?
• 51:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand that.
• 51:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can cast balls, but let's say he's like, it's a redrap, fourteen team, three year, you want to leave a three rookie running backs?
• 51:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who are they?
• 51:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, the dead team doesn't kind of like now, you know,
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: put a g v p into factor right.
• 51:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm I'm I'm into jd on blue.
• 51:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm into, uh, I don't have a list in front of me john some kind of up the top of my head here.
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Rookie running backs.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'm kind of blank and dude.
• 51:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the Harvey.
• 51:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yes.
• 51:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, big yes.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Harvey.
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm a JK Dobbins guy.
• 51:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know he's heard all that, but when JK Dobbins is healthy, he's an absolute rock star.
• 51:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and he's a forty time guy.
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was a start at Ohio State.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's at huge moments in the NFL.
• 51:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if Harvey's going to get the run that a lot of people think.
• 51:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you mentioned, uh,
• 51:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... did the other running back that electrician hinders and african love uh... i'm not i'm not a ramanjre stevens and guy so he he's he's he's definitely got that i'm targeting it's just because we don't have to be sponsored after we like all these guys like the with the red light guy decorie cross get married all hamdard home uh... because i don't nagie nagie here is god bless and blown his face apart or whatever with the eye thing
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: But how do you heal from that bro?
• 52:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can he see out of his eye?
• 52:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you, have we got a report on that?
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so.
• 52:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're keeping a mom, which is scary.
• 52:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 52:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 52:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, so I'm, I'm, that whole, I think is, I thought that maybe a split with Najee in a Marion, but now I think, I think Hampton's good to go for a spectacular rookie year.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, it's a harboss system where the running game rules.
• 52:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm, I'm really big on him.
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that's the easy one, right?
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking like who are the guys?
• 52:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have ten drafts, who are the who are the rookie running backs?
• 52:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You were leading with in seven of them.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're taking that twelfth round, you know, date on blue, like that, that's probably the best.
• 52:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, there's more, let me.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's just no many of them that just seems like it's just, it's just, it's just hard to process, you know, which ones to properly value.
• 53:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 53:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So let me, uh, let me go to a list of rookie running backs here and like you said, get kind of off the beaten path a little bit.
• 53:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, okay.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jade on blue Dylan Samson, uh, he's a forty time guy and not a drone for guy.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've got there.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't even signed quinsion.
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Judkins like, what the hell is going on without weirdness?
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so Dylan said Dylan Samson had a monster year at Tennessee.
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a monster year a bell cow did every yet twenty some touchdowns like I've tell it you look at Dylan Samson.
• 53:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my my mom DJ Giddens.
• 53:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a forty time guy.
• 53:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: He
• 53:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: He flirted with work course in college.
• 53:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say last year he was the work course in case state.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was at Alabama.
• 53:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like if Alabama is messing with the I already like here, right?
• 53:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: They only deal with the elite of the elite.
• 53:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
• 54:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just like as you're foundational, okay, then that you didn't you couldn't break through there.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: She went over here.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I like DJ Giddens.
• 54:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: He'll be in a Jonathan Taylor is a Wussy and he's very, very injury prone.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's softest tissue paper man.
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think Giddens actually is going to come through the back door and be very fantasy relevant mentioned Taj Brooks.
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll go into a degree.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I would he marks because of the negative reports on shove.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like it seems like shove is washed and I would he Mars.
• 54:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, Woody marks is dude.
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
• 54:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Awesome out of the back.
• 54:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Awesome out of the back field.
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's like his for it.
• 54:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's a third now and back.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Woody marks isn't going to be
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: He will not be a bell calling the NFL.
• 54:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would bet every possession that I have on Earth.
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe at the end of the season for depleted running back room.
• 54:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: But John, you know what I'm saying?
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he will never be set up as a bell calling the NFL.
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He will be set up as a third down back in the NFL.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, Darren Sproul's type of guy.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, he's kind of on the fringe.
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking here and looking is there anybody else?
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm super deep now.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that is it, John.
• 55:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is it.
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so what are you looking for with these working running vests?
• 55:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have you watched it with college?
• 55:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you have more excited than anyone else, but I'm looking for time.
• 55:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm looking for time to vent the player originally, right?
• 55:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then once I've vetted you, it's about uptown meets opportunity and like, getting like, there's a path.
• 55:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Taylor's got to blow a tire, but Taylor blows a tire a lot.
• 55:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Taj Brooks, I think, has a path with only some HP run in front of him.
• 55:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking for talent and then the path
• 55:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: to get on the football field is Samson.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a path to see him on the football field.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I'm looking for.
• 55:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So not as much situation.
• 55:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like that was as that was why I liked RJ Harvey so much.
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't watch him in college, but you're walking into a coach that loves running backs.
• 55:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Great O-line, great defense, great team.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, that's why I love Darje Harvey.
• 55:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I thought like I totally agree for what you're saying, but I'm talking about like the deeper guys, right?
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like RJ harb.
• 56:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need anything from share.
• 56:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's our difference there.
• 56:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do like RJ harbby spot.
• 56:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: but I don't like I said, I think I could see that being, if Dobbins is really healthy and rolling, I could see that being like a two thirds one thirds split.
• 56:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what I mean, where where Dobbins is pretty clearly the lead back and Harvey's doing some stuff, but just enough to kind of keep a roster spot.
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so in the second morning, so we'll get back up running backs.
• 56:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I always say back up, back up running backs are like Bitcoin dependency when they hit a hit.
• 56:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's huge, right?
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there's so many that are, or, you know, potentially, you could see the job, right?
• 56:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: The goal is to get the Chase Brown Bucky Irving from last year, right?
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So obviously, I like to order Mason, one of my other favorites is Zach Sharbinick, right?
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: What, what do you do with the team when they've got these two really good running backs?
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Almost like the game's Monti situation.
• 56:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you take both?
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you take the understudy?
• 57:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's your strategy?
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what's what are you looking at?
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a great question.
• 57:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, when you get into the absolute time share guys, I'm not really trying to get both of them.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to just kind of hit a homer with one of them.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: When you're talking about a handcuffs situation, you know, that's different, but I'm going, let me look through my,
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like, okay, Caleb Johnson and Jalen Warren is an example, right?
• 57:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or like, to me, that's like, that's the time share of all time shares.
• 57:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: The it it.
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: The rooks gonna play.
• 57:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Warren's been there.
• 57:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Warren's got some talent.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Zip, good catcher.
• 57:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And a good pass catcher.
• 57:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so that that like, Caleb's probably getting the tough yards.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jalen's kind of the in space guy a little bit.
• 57:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like that looks about a fifty-fifty as it gets.
• 57:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I would want one of those guys.
• 57:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me look around here a little bit.
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm sure I'm fine.
• 57:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.
• 57:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: The argument for getting both, right?
• 57:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you just played whoever the starting running back was from the seahawks last year, that spot would have averaged eighteen points for game, which is the RB six, right?
• 58:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're not playing both, but you spend a little walker.
• 58:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You get the backup and then at least you're giving get solved, running backwards, or no matter what, especially if that running back is injury prone, like walker, right?
• 58:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like where your head is at.
• 58:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here's my thing with because it and I do like Zack Sharbening and I like Kenneth Walker.
• 58:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: That would be a two pack that I would be proud to have.
• 58:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a Caleb Johnson guy.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's he's not a forty time guy, man.
• 58:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not he's a
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's a plow kind of so I don't like it he's probably a motor probably be a good cold weather back and all that kind of stuff, you know, he played it Iowa, but he's not a forry time guy dude.
• 58:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's always kind of a hang up for me.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So in that case, I'm going to go to jail in Warren.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I've got my choice of those two guys, but to your point and I'm trying to find another backfield where there's like
• 58:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: maybe to it like Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason looks pretty freaking time shares there was a report that it's going to be more even this year.
• 59:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would rather have Jordan Mason frankly out of that because you got it you got to draft up a little bit for Aaron Jones bigger name starter blah blah blah I'd rather wait later and go through the back door with with Mason.
• 59:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I like adding Coram to Kyron, John, because Sean McVay is obsessed with Belkow backs.
• 59:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he just gets a guy, just feeds him.
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are you full?
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not full, coach, cool, keep feeding him.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He always does that.
• 59:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if Kyron blows the tire, Coram is going to be put up to bat in a pretty significant way.
• 59:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man.
• 59:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then we kind of, you know, like, tray Benson, like we talked about, I'm pretty high on him.
• 59:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But again, like, I don't really want James Conner.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want somebody else to take him.
• 59:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then I want to go through the back door with tray Benson.
• 59:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So two questions.
• 59:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: One, would you rather with those lay round picks target a backup running back, like maybe a Ray Davis, Braille and Allen tray Benson?
• 1:00:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sure.
• 1:00:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or take a shot on one of these rookie running backs, like, you know, Woody Marx, J.D.
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Blue, or Ollie Gordon.
• 1:00:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Great question.
• 1:00:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I would rather have the previous three guys you mentioned.
• 1:00:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can you give me the list one more time?
• 1:00:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I think I said, Ray Davis, Braille and Allen, Tray Basin.
• 1:00:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:00:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Braille and Allen.
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm big on Braille and Allen.
• 1:00:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:00:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, John, I am.
• 1:00:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so that that's, that's a huge one sided answer for me.
• 1:00:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Braille and Allen.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, when he was at Wisconsin, the narrative about Braille and down, the buzz about Braille and down, which you got to see this freak of nature man child.
• 1:00:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like his, that was Wisconsin, right, playing behind that unbelievable offensive line, you know, all these six, fours and six, fives just opening up doors.
• 1:00:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's a monster.
• 1:00:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now he wasn't a forty time guy.
• 1:00:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: However, John, that's mitigated when you are a huge body guy.
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
• 1:00:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you're a five, ten, two, five, and you didn't run a good forty, you're dead to me.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But when you're a big body guy like Braille and Ellen, then I want to see you, right?
• 1:01:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then like if damn you look slow, right?
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he doesn't play slow.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm a fan, I actually have like super deep John and Dynasty leagues, last pick or off waivers with the guy move the IR, whatever.
• 1:01:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm even messing around with Isaiah Davis a little bit.
• 1:01:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, because he, he's a big athletic stud.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I think Breeze Hall is heading for a season of adversity, John.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like Breeze Hall.
• 1:01:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's Kim Vetted.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a forty-time guy.
• 1:01:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was an absolute rock.
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was Elvis in college.
• 1:01:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:01:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: This guy, this freaking guy was Elvis.
• 1:01:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I'm telling you, sat at the building.
• 1:01:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, he's not good moments in the NFL, right?
• 1:01:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: But injuries are piling up.
• 1:01:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: The team doesn't want to pay him.
• 1:01:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've got these two other guys that look ready to go.
• 1:01:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just think I think brisals are going to crash this year.
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think Braille now is going to be a thing.
• 1:01:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay.
• 1:01:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So let's, I'm going to be selfish for a minute here.
• 1:02:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I got this big draft, uh, super flex, super flex auction, which is like the wild West.
• 1:02:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are nobody here.
• 1:02:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was not really research on it.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, what would your strategy be?
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and it's an expert league.
• 1:02:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a two-fifty buy-in, uh, loop Wilson's in the league, former tight end.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, where would you be going?
• 1:02:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:02:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give you advice and it's advice that I can never follow when I'm in an auction drive.
• 1:02:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:02:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: John, I've been doing auction drafts before they were off the drive.
• 1:02:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean my god, we got to go back.
• 1:02:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I'll just say the mid-nineteen nineties.
• 1:02:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been doing auction drafts.
• 1:02:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fantasy football weekly fanball.com, Paul Church and all those guys.
• 1:02:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was there twelve years with those guys.
• 1:02:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we did all these auction drafts, right?
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was not a good auction drafter, John.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I get impatient.
• 1:02:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:02:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do, and I, and I, and I get guys, right?
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, if you, like, I, I leave in this auction without this guy.
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So what did that bleed you like, seven, eight more dollars, right?
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the bid off, your fifty three up to sixty one.
• 1:03:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: All that kind of stuff you don't want to do, right?
• 1:03:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: My advice, John, is to wait.
• 1:03:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: be patient and it's it's so painful though like oh I've got a piece on well that guy's up the board but um John I'm telling you right now every single option I've ever been in in my life the guy that waits and waits and waits and waits and waits and waits and waits
• 1:03:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: and has all the money.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there's still, there might not be Sake One Barclay in CMC and Justin Jefferson, but every damn time at the end of the draft, I look at his team and I go, I would trade my team for his team right now.
• 1:03:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's no doubt about he's got four stud backs.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got two.
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, but they're bigger names, right?
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like he's got like
• 1:03:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Two stack of stud cubies.
• 1:04:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I barely got one decent one.
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got five wide receivers because you know deep in it.
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're like the wide receiver things a big old pool right?
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's so many like good enticing wide receiver.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: He'll have like five of those guys that everybody loves and while receivers of a similar Statue are going for thirty thirty five thirty seven.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's getting up for thirteen.
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
• 1:04:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: He just got DK Meckham for eleven right stuff like that.
• 1:04:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: So my advice would be to wait my friend, but it's very very very hard to do.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are the so cubies?
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: What would you would you go?
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Give me two studs.
• 1:04:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: So last year I got the Marjax and Dale and Hertz or maybe wait and try and get like a Jared Goff trick.
• 1:04:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe get a Michael Panics kid like four guys for the cheaper rather than, you know, friend load of studs.
• 1:04:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather spend my money on running backs and wide receivers because we just talked about it, a two quarter back lead, what if golf and Caleb or your QBs?
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel pretty good about that.
• 1:04:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: What if you're, you know, Baker and Bonyx, dude?
• 1:05:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:05:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, yo, I got Baker and Bonyx.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm huge on Bonyx this year.
• 1:05:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's the direction I would go and John.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, and then here's what you hope for, right?
• 1:05:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 1:05:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then you want, and anytime it comes for me to bring up a name in an auction draft, except for late when I'm trying to get the one dollar defense of the one dollar kicker or whatever, then I'm bringing it up my guys.
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or like the one dollar late sleeper guy that actually kind of what?
• 1:05:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But early in the draft when you're trying to bleed money, I just go to the biggest name on the board.
• 1:05:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like, okay, I don't want Travis Kelsey.
• 1:05:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Travis Kelsey for a buck and then everybody feeds on him and it bleeds money, right?
• 1:05:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's my, that's my methodology, but for you, you would want the quarterbacks to slip.
• 1:05:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you've got some nice choices when people are getting low on money.
• 1:05:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:05:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the, that was a little sweet spot in auction where like everyone's fed a little bit more than wanted.
• 1:05:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, oh, they know they should maybe bid on this guy, but they can't risk getting him.
• 1:06:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's where you swoop in, man.
• 1:06:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm telling, so I'm in an auction league, John with my homies from college.
• 1:06:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a home league and it's a bragging rights talk shit league and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:06:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's an auction draft.
• 1:06:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm literally John.
• 1:06:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm literally considering setting an alarm for an hour after the draft starts.
• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm actually going to do that because if I sit there for that first hour and monitor the draft I get bought hurt and I get impatient and oh my god all these guy and I start to get panic right like I'm there's going to be nobody left for me while the strap goes like three hours long and it takes forever for the strap so I literally think I'm chopping off the first hour of the draft just to experiment
• 1:06:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, because I've never done that and guess what, John, uh, I usually don't like my team leaving that auction.
• 1:06:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like because Stan's I'm like, I'm going to do the opposite this year.
• 1:06:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get that and that makes sense, but I find with the auction, there's this easy kind of two directions it goes.
• 1:07:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: People go spend money for the studs and the up front or the studs don't undervalued early and then that kind of
• 1:07:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: depressed, like, uh, or opposite depresses everyone else's value, right?
• 1:07:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you maybe don't want to bid on anyone.
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got to steal those first ten guys go for it.
• 1:07:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because if they're going, you know, seventy five, people are going to run out of money.
• 1:07:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if they're getting being jumped for like, sixty two, right?
• 1:07:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then it's like, when do you want to go after that hour, you're still not going to be getting value on anyone?
• 1:07:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a dicey game, obviously.
• 1:07:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: What I've noticed, John with that with that idea that you just brought up is,
• 1:07:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, usually even at the top of the draft, B-Jun and Jamar, and they're full freight, man, and they're such hop-up and guy's sake won, right?
• 1:07:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: People are gonna love, been up for sake won this year, and I think it's so foolish, but they're going to, but there is always one or two, and this is like early in the auction, round one, round two.
• 1:07:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a guy or two that should go for fifty-eight, that goes for forty-nine.
• 1:08:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, every auction I've been in, there's that one guy, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, the bidding just stopped.
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: That guy's off the board for forty-nine.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so, fine in that guy, and when that moment is difficult, but I still find the most of those guys are full-frame early and early and off, because that's when everybody's got all the cash and the draft just set out to either excited.
• 1:08:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when people are heaped and stuff like that, so which I get, I usually fall prey to that stuff, too.
• 1:08:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I call it the auction bubble.
• 1:08:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's this little period where about four or five guys, nobody you get wants to bid on them, right?
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, you know, Mike Evans for eight bucks.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, decade my cap for like six.
• 1:08:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, people can't believe what happened.
• 1:08:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: But everyone's looking at their team and counting how much money they have.
• 1:08:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, these unsteady guys.
• 1:08:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like, that's where you want to pounce.
• 1:08:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's where the winners happen.
• 1:08:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's hard to be patient enough to get to the bubble.
• 1:08:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes the bubble bursts and doesn't even exist.
• 1:08:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and all of that is true.
• 1:09:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that that's the deep end of fantasy football drafting when and whenever you bring the auction into it, that is the super suit, especially like you said with two cubies.
• 1:09:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's uh, in a high stakes like that.
• 1:09:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be a fun auction for you, man.
• 1:09:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm I'm I'm psyched to see who you get no one.
• 1:09:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's the best tomorrow.
• 1:09:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be posting it.
• 1:09:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:09:18
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• 1:09:19
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• 1:09:20
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• 1:09:22
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• 1:09:24
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• 1:09:30
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• 1:09:37
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• 1:09:38
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• 1:09:47
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• 1:09:52
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• 1:09:56
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• 1:09:58
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• 1:10:01
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• 1:10:12
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• 1:10:14
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• 1:10:17
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• 1:10:20
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• 1:10:21
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• 1:10:22
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• 1:10:26
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• 1:10:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you having me on again, John.
• 1:10:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love coming on here and shopping it up with you.
• 1:10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Take Derek Henry.
• 1:10:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just take him.
• 1:10:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just take him.
• 1:10:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I, this is probably like super chalky and dumb, but I'm like, like in our draft, Derek Henry went twelve.
• 1:10:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Huh?
• 1:10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what the hell?
• 1:10:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, come on.
• 1:10:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not even close.
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Henry is in the running for the second overall pick and fantasy football drafts for me.
• 1:11:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: The guy's morning is a touchdown every single week.
• 1:11:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So stop sleeping on Derek Henry if it's only by four or five picks, but get as much de-hennery as you can.
• 1:11:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 1:11:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get to the end of the hour.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it for us to check us out.
• 1:11:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Check Thursday.
• 1:11:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got a best ball draft with Anthony, which is tomorrow.
• 1:11:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
• 1:11:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 1:11:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks guys.
• 1:11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cheers.