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The Evolution of Legal AI with Brandon Almeda · Justice Team Podcast

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  Bob: Hey, it's Bob Simon taking a break to tell you about CallRail.
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  your phone calls with your intake and with your clients to record those phone calls
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  the marketplace to find the best match all made possible with CallRail
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  being plugged into your firm's intake with real intelligence CallRail.
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  Welcome to this episode of the Justice Team Podcast on the Justice Team Network.
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  I'm your host, Bob Simon, and today we'll be talking about artificial intelligence.
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  Its use cases in law.
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  And kind of the state of the union thereof of ai.
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  'cause we were sitting here filming in almost June, 2025.
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  And it might be drastically different by July, 2025.
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  But I'm joined today with the head of AI product at attorney share.
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  Brandon Almeida.
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  Brandon: Hey Bob.
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  How's it going?
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  Bob: So Brandon, first of all, we're gonna, here's what we're gonna talk about.
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  He's gonna explore just with what's going on, kind of what's gonna be
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  happening in the future, what use cases we're seeing here today.
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  Uh, so first of all, how did you get.
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  Into ai.
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  Brandon: Yeah, so, um, you know, I worked with our CTO,
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  uh, George Jersey previously.
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  Um, and after I left that company, um, I realized that there was a huge
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  opportunity with, uh, the advancement of ai and it was really interesting to me.
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  Um, so I basically spent 12 months just playing around building tools myself,
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  just so that I could learn more about it and the applications of certain things.
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  Bob: Um, how do you, how do you use AI daily?
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  Brandon: That's a big question pretty much for everything I do, honestly.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Um, it helps me plan, um, my day with a lot of different things.
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  Um, the big use case that I really use it for is just brain dumping context.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So that I can later leverage that in different formats.
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  Um, so, you know, a lot of different use cases, um, mainly
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  with the development side.
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  Um, we used, uh, cursor, uh, which is a new ID that came out, um,
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  and it's kind of transitioned.
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  Is it
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  Bob: C-U-R-S-R as, or, uh, letter missing?
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  No,
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  Brandon: it's, it's just how you spell cursor.
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  Really?
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  Yeah.
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  cursor.com.
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  How that's a good one to got.
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  Yeah.
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  Great domain.
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  It's a great tool too.
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  But yeah, it's basically, uh, transitioning the development,
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  uh, uh, landscape too.
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  Uh, you know, you used to have to know all the syntax to code and all that fun
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  stuff and, uh, it's kind of, uh, uh, decentralizing and democratizing the
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  ability for people to build products.
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  Bob: So are you, are, you're are using AI to build?
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  Brandon: Yeah, pretty much every time that I'm building software, uh,
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  it's transitioned from writing code.
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  I haven't written code by hand in maybe, you know, 12 months, honestly.
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  Wow.
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  Um, so yeah, you're just, you're speaking it into existence essentially.
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  I
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  Bob: mean, so do you think like, what's the future of.
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  Program engineering and coding, is it just AI or leveraging it?
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  Brandon: Yeah, no, definitely.
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  I think it's gonna open up the door and then, you know, it's removing
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  the value of needing to know how to code and it's going to bring to life
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  the ability for people that have good ideas to, to build those ideas.
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  And we're starting to see that a lot on social media.
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  Um, you're starting to see this new venture of people, uh, the solopreneur,
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  um, where people are able to just build entire products themselves.
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  That it would take, you know, teams to build, you know, previously for,
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  you know, maybe even multiple years.
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  And the, the feature that'll be out by the time this airs is, um, within a few
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  weeks even Brandon was able to use with the rest of the, the team to have attorney
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  share, have an API to plug into folks.
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  Intake.
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  Yep.
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  Bob: Either what's completed or even in real time to be able to
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  then find the best case for them.
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  Either if it meets the, if it meets the criteria right.
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  Of the lawyer that's getting the case.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It'll go to their law firm.
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  If it doesn't, it'll find the best match for them.
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  Brandon: Yeah, exactly.
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  So yeah, you get, you know, your lead from any intake source, you know, online
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  forms, uh, uh, maybe you have a phone call that you transcribe for a call
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  center or we're, we're even starting to see that evolve into, you know,
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  having AI agents take phone calls.
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  Talking to, you know, potential clients, um, and, you know,
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  doing that intake process.
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  Um, and yeah, we can basically take that transcription or basically
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  any of those intake sources.
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  Um, and then, you know, based on what your criteria is, so maybe you're a
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  personal injury firm, uh, you know, you can say these are the, the different
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  practice areas that are practicing.
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  Uh, and you can, you know, set some score to say like, you know, uh, you know, I
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  only want cases above a certain score.
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  Uh, so if it's in your, uh, practice area, then it would go to your LCMS.
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  Uh, and if it's outside your practice area, but above a certain score, we
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  could just post things to attorney, share auto, auto, post them,
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  auto post them to attorney share.
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  Uh, you get, you know, frictionless, uh, passive revenue from all those cases they
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  get posted and people that pick them up.
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  Um, so yeah, it's, it's really cool.
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  And you know, if people are watching or listening, if.
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  A lot of lawyers should be hyper specialized in what they do,
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  but it doesn't stop you from helping consumers that call.
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  Yeah.
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  About any issue, right?
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  So every lawyer that's watching or listening, you should have pages built
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  on your website for every practice area.
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  Because if somebody calls with a mass tort, right?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Like a DE or Provera or like things that are out there, you can then route them.
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  Automatically through to attorney sheriff to have it match with the
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  best lawyer and then track it all.
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  Brandon: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  It's a frictionless process.
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  It's the best of all the different worlds.
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  You get the cases you want, you don't get the cases.
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  That aren't valid cases, and you know, the cases that are valid that you
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  may not specialize in, you can, you know, make, make revenue off of that.
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  So without any, without a process, you don't need teams of people to manage
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  that overhead to, you know, work with other law firms, find other law firms,
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  you know, manage that process through the matching, the signing and all that stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  Bob: as long as in every lawyer watching a listing, you should be using some kind of.
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  Transcription service when you're doing intake.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  Whether people are plugging CallRail into it.
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  Whether you are using companies like for your voice, AI intake, like capture now,
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  like lawyer.com, like navigate ai or you're on Hona using that product, it'll,
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  they already are coming out with the API integration with attorney share, so.
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  Again, if it meets the criteria for your firm, great.
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  And if not, you're still gonna find the referral partner for that.
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  Brandon: Yep.
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  Bob: All just automated and auto posted.
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  Brandon: Yep.
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  Yeah, it's amazing, I think.
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  Yeah, the, the new product that we're coming out with at attorney share,
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  uh, allows for anyone to send, you know, just basically a, a phone
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  transcription or whatever your source is.
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  Um, and yeah, we'll automatically post it to the right practice
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  area, to the right jurisdiction.
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  Uh, and, you know, we have a massive network on attorney share to help you,
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  uh, locate, you know, the best match for, for your, your potential client.
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  And, and then the best part, you know, for me as a lawyer on both sides of that
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  equation, like one, if I get referred a case, this will automatically ping
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  me and alert me and my team at cases in our wheelhouse, I could pick up.
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  Or my intake team could pick up that call live or get back the person right away.
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  And if we do sign the case,
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  yep.
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  ' Bob: cause the attorney sure only charges if you end up signing the case.
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  If not, it just doesn't, it's only like a few hundred bucks if you sign it.
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  Yep.
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  But then it tracks it too.
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  So then I, if I pick up that case, the lawyer that refer me, that case could just
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  see on their dashboard case was signed, see the fee share agreement and then.
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  Get the updates.
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  Brandon: Yeah.
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  No, and it's a great process.
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  I mean, we were at lunch the other day and you got pinged
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  for, you know, a great case.
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  You were looking at it and you went to pick it up and it was already
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  picked up, so you gotta move quick.
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  'cause these cases, they're, they're great and you know, you gotta move quick,
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  otherwise it might go to someone else.
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  Bob: Yeah, there's, I mean there's been a lot of very, very
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  good cases popping into there.
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  And now with like the community, you can give communities first look at your case.
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  You can give it, I think up to 24 hours.
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  So what I've been doing is.
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  Trust network, trusted network.
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  We have a Justice hq.
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  I will send our referrals to, to that network first to give
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  them right of first refusal.
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  'cause I know it's going to a higher caliber, caliber lawyer because I know
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  most of the people in that organization.
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  Yep.
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  Other communities are doing the same thing to list everybody
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  within their organization so that, you know, you're referring it to
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  somebody who knows a good lawyer.
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  They're also within your network.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Your community.
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  So it's also like another sense of accountability.
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  Yep.
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  Right.
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  Um, and it's all automated, so like.
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  Again, lawyers, if you're watching or listening, like it's free to
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  create an account to do these things.
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  And I think for the first time, real lawyers can compete with firms they
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  never thought they could that had giant call centers and giant digital ad spend.
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  And I, so I mean, how could lawyers use artificial intelligence to
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  open up their bucket of calls?
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  Of cases?
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  Like how, like what's kind of the, some things that they could be doing?
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  Brandon: Um, so are you speaking to like the intake side of things or?
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  Well,
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  Bob: intake or even just like generating more leads like.
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  With SEO and stuff like that.
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  Brandon: Oh, yeah.
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  So, yeah, there's a lot of interesting things that you can do.
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  I mean, speaking of SEO, um, you know, there's this concept of programmatic
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  SEO um, you know, you can create individual pages for, you know,
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  different practice areas, different locations and things like that.
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  Um, and you can, you know, use AI to generate these pages in a specific
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  structure so that you can, um, you know, push all of this content to the people
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  that would be most, uh, applicable for it.
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  Uh, and you'll get this massive reach across, you know, the current,
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  uh, search tools like Google and all the different engines.
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  Um, but yeah, it's also an interesting concept and it seems
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  like a lot of people are moving towards just using these AI tools.
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  Like I, we were talking the other day, I haven't used Google for
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  anything in quite a long time.
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  So we're moving into this new world where, you know, are people going to
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  be actually Googling things if they're gonna be using something like chat
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  GBT to find resources, like, you know, what's the best lawyer in, you know,
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  California, whatever their needs are.
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  What does that landscape look like in three months, six months to a year?
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  Because like you said at the beginning, like this, this stuff is rapidly changing
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  and you know, something that might be viable right now in a, a month from
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  now could be a totally different world.
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  So,
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  Bob: yeah.
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  And lawyers, I think law firms should be well-branded so people know and respect
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  them, but if people call you with any issue, should be able to help them.
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  Yeah.
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  So I know a lot of lawyers big on social media that now have their AI voice
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  intake that just give the person that.
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  Contacts them and their DM say, here, call this number so we can help vet the case.
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  Yep.
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  And again, if it meets their criteria, great.
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  If not, it gets put through.
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  And it's, I mean, it's crazy how like I think Attorney Shere does
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  for under 300 bucks a month, you can have up to a thousand posts.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Automated for the a thousand.
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  Like that's crazy.
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  Brandon: That's a great amount of leads.
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  Bob: I mean, it's a great amount of leads.
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  And for the other end it's like these are quality leads put in by a quality lawyer.
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  Yeah.
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  Bob: Usually within your trusted network.
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  I mean, it's just.
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  Technology's making things so much more efficient, but also way less expensive,
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  because I think this process, even 6, 8, 10 months ago, would've been
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  much more expensive and, and slower.
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  Brandon: Yeah.
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  You know, a hundred percent.
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  Yeah.
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  The, the cost of software seems to be going down.
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  I. And the cost of ideas are going up because, uh, that's
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  what's gonna separate people.
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  I know we talked about it a little bit, but you know, you, the people that are
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  having the ideas, the people that are able to stay in at the front of this,
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  you know, massive wave of AI advancement, uh, and the people that can just
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  generally understand the users and what they need, um, I think are gonna really
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  differentiate the, the products that are gonna be evolving in this new landscape.
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  Bob: Yes, those thought leaders that, you told me something
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  interesting yesterday is.
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  Someone that like is involved in some of the best music writing of all
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  time, has never played an instrument.
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  Brandon: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  That's a great thing that I love that, uh, that reference.
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  I mean, I think he, I've seen this, you know, quite a few years ago.
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  Um, but I think the taste is gonna be the differentiating factor.
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  People that have, you know, been exposed to a lot of different things
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  and they understand what they like and what works for, um, different users
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  and different, uh, sets of people are gonna be really, uh, valuable in
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  this, this landscape moving forward.
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  For sure.
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  So what are like the day to day.
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  AI products, people watching or listening that they can be using or should be using.
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  Brandon: So I mean, obviously right off the bat, if you haven't
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  heard of Chachi, bt, take a look.
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  Uh, don't be fooled.
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  It's the best $20 a month that you can spend.
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  Don't be fooled by the free version.
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  Um, but the
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  Bob: $20 a month actually is at a more secure network, right?
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  Like,
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  Brandon: yeah, no, you get a lot of benefits with that.
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  Um, but you just get better models.
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  Um, you know, I like to think of these AI as basically different
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  personalities or different people.
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  Um, so they have essentially what they call models.
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  They have different models.
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  Um, so depending on what your task is, there's gonna be
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  certain models that are better.
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  So, um, the provi, there's gonna be different providers.
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  So we have, um, uh, open ai, which is who created Chachi, bt, uh, you have
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  Anthropic, which, uh, they created Claude.
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  That's their model.
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  Uh, and then within these models they have different versions that
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  they're constantly rolling out, making improvements and things like that.
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  So.
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  Yeah, I mean, uh, if you're, for the most people listening, uh, Chachi
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  PD is probably gonna be the best, uh, the best model, uh, for them.
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  Um, and then, but I would
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  Bob: recommend lawyers, anybody watching and listening get the $20 a month
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  version because you want have your.
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  Data secure.
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  You wanna have, if you're putting in medical records and
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  things, you have to have that.
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  'cause they are, they are soc two compliant, right?
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  I would assume.
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  Brandon: Um, yeah, I would assume, but I, I, I'm not sure I, I need to double check.
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  But yeah, I mean, basically pretty much everything that I do, um, you
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  know, I'm working with these models and they have great, uh, knowledge
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  and pretty much every domain.
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  Um, I would say the way that I use them most effectively is basically, uh, a
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  second, uh, set of eyes when I'm, you know, trying to architect a solution on
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  the software side or things like that.
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  Um, I generally have an idea of what I want to do, and then I use it
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  as like a, a sounding board to say like, is this, did I miss anything?
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  Could I improve anything?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Um, and it's, it's really useful in that capacity.
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  Uh, you don't want to just, you know, assume that it's gonna
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  give you the, the correct answer.
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  Totally.
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  I mean, it's really dependent on context.
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  You know, if you ask it, Hey, how do I build a million dollar business?
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  There's a lot of ambiguity there.
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  But if you say, you know, how do I build this law firm product that does
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  X, Y, Z and you get really specific, you're gonna get a much better result.
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  So the context and the input really dictates what you get out of it.
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  And then the other, you use one to code.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Um, what else, what other products do you like to
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  Brandon: use?
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  Um, I mean, realistically, we're in this world now where you only
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  need the model and it's really your imagination and how you can leverage it.
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  Um, you know that you can do all sorts of things.
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  Uh.
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  With these models, and we get to the point now where you can provide images
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  and it can see what's in the image.
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  Um, you know, maybe if you're traveling and you're in Japan and
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  you need to, what does the sign say?
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  It will tell you like you really,
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  Bob: all the meta glasses stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, you can really do, what am I looking at meta?
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  What am I looking at?
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  Brandon: Yep.
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  Bob: Then, I mean, I hear you can start to do like translation things too.
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  Yeah,
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  Brandon: yeah.
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  I, I would say, you know, just mess around.
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  Get in there, play around with it, see what you know, what
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  you think it can and can't do.
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  You'd probably be really surprised.
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  Um, and you know, just kind of take it from there and just maybe, uh, try
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  and think of things that you don't think it can do and, and, and test it.
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  And I, I think you'll be surprised,
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  Bob: um, and.
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  I learned yesterday, used to be a competitive gamer before.
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  Yeah.
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  You in the space.
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  And I also learned yesterday, so like what do you do for fun?
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  Do you watch shows?
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  Like what do you do?
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  Brandon: Uh, I'm full on AI at this point.
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  I mean, I, I like to build tools and like I said, I like to see
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  like, oh, could this be done?
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  Can, you know, can the, the model, can this model do X, Y, Z?
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  And, um, I like to build products around that just to understand what
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  the limitations and capabilities are.
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  And I gotta be honest, there's pretty much nothing that I've
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  thought like, can it do this?
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  That it can't do?
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  And just seeing it live yesterday, just on like, Hey, let's have a thought.
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  Can we live post this call that's being recorded with an AI voice agent?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Bob: And auto post it with the recommendation that it go to either the
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  communities of just HQ or law leaders.
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  Yep.
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  And you literally build it within 15.
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  It blew my mind.
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  He's like, I'm surprised this blows your mind's.
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  Like, yes, this blows my mind that you actually took that transcript and made
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  a post on attorney share all automated.
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  I mean, imagine how fast you're gonna be able to help people.
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  Yeah.
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  You're gonna, it's gonna be
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  Brandon: Well, yeah, which we talked about.
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  I mean, basically in order, the use case right now for attorney shares, uh, if you
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  have a call center, then you need to have someone, you know, either transcribe it
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  or figure out what the parameters are.
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  Uh, and then they need to log into attorney share manually
• 15:17
  create the case or the referral.
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  Um, and if there's, you have a massive volume of leads coming
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  in, that, that's a huge process.
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  And, uh, I think this is what you're gonna start to see, uh, is this
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  automation, um, of certain roles.
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  Because you can leverage these AI models and basically create a prompt
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  to designate a specific job task or a process for it to accomplish.
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  And these have been coined agents, so AI agents, and they're pretty
• 15:45
  specific use cases right now.
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  But what we're starting to see is people building these teams of AI agents to
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  solve more and more complicated problems.
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  Uh, and it's just starting to like consolidate these.
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  These tasks and, and somewhat these industries, um, into
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  more effective, uh, tools.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, I'm gonna, my sister just
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  Bob: pulled in.
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  I'll just
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  Brandon: take,
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  Bob: we're gonna edit this out, but Nicole, I'm live on the show.
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  Do you need into the garage?
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  Is that what you're calling?
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  I do, yeah.
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  I'm opening the garage.
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  Right.
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  All right.
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  Maybe we don't have That was my sister she called 'cause she's getting into the,
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  our Torrance HQ and I can open the garage.
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  I mean, look at this technology.
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  I'm just gonna go right here.
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  I'm gonna open the garage door for her
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  Brandon: at our office.
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  It's opening.
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  Look at that.
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  But I mean, that could even be an AI agent right there.
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  It should
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  Bob: be.
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  I wish I'd picked up the call and knew to do that.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, 'cause I knew what she wanted.
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  Yeah.
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  I knew the time.
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  I could have just said automatically.
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  But
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  Brandon: that's what I mean.
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  I think people are, that's what's going start happening is there's gonna be
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  these really micro tasks that people are gonna start to automate and then these
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  tools are gonna start to get rolled up.
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  It allows you
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  Bob: to do what you like should be doing.
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  So like lawyers who are watching or listening, I think we've, we've
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  entered the golden era of being a really good lawyer because I
• 16:50
  don't think we have to compete.
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  In this market spend this race to do X, Y, Z manually.
• 16:57
  Right?
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  So now we have the tools that have, with a very low lift, that are gonna be able
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  to acquire the cases that we want or send out the cases that we don't to, to
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  monetize and still help those people.
• 17:06
  Yep.
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  Right?
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  And, and this is all you need.
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  You need your cell phone and you'll be in your client's living room helping them
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  or in the courtroom helping them and not.
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  Manually doing all these tasks.
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  Brandon: Yep.
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  Yeah, no, I mean, uh, eventually I think what we're gonna start
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  to see is people leveraging AI to essentially clone themselves for
• 17:23
  tasks that they want to delegate.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Uh, and you provide, you know, context into your emails or just,
• 17:28
  uh, a knowledge base of what, what you've done in the past.
• 17:31
  And, um, you know, like you've shown me, there's, there's a lot of promising tools
• 17:35
  out there that kind of already do this.
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  Uh, and it allows you to free up your time and, and let these
• 17:39
  agents kind of run these more mundane tasks on autopilot for you.
• 17:43
  Yep.
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  Bob: Mentorship on scale.
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  That's one of my missions.
• 17:45
  Well, Brandon, thanks for uh, being on the show, brandon@attorneyshare.com.
• 17:50
  If you wanna reach out to him directly or go to the show, justice team
• 17:53
  network.com, go through that one.
• 17:54
  But interesting stuff, and I think when we probably get you back on the show
• 17:58
  three or four months from now, we're gonna see just the accelerated pace
• 18:01
  that everything has taken off For sure.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, thank you for having me.
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  All right.
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  Thank you for watching and listening to this episode of the Justice Team
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  podcast on the Justice Team Network.
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  I'm your host, Bob Simon.
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  Out.