Latest / Deprogrammed Music Podcast / Slowdive
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- 0:32It's Deprogrammed, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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- 1:01get into the band. So we're going to try to get you
- 1:04into this band as well. You could say that we are going
- 1:07to catch the breeze with this band.
- 1:10Today we are talking about Slow dive.
- 1:12And if I recall correctly, Adam, I think this is probably one of
- 1:17the first bands that you put up on the board, probably shortly
- 1:22after you did Modest Mouse, where you kind of got the taste
- 1:25and you're like, OK, so I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but
- 1:28that's the way I remember it. So talk to me about Slow Dive.
- 1:33Yeah. Thanks, Justin.
- 1:34Yeah, I, I think I did. So, I mean, so Slow Dive were
- 1:39one of the bands from the 90s, early 90s British bands and part
- 1:45of the whole shoe guys movement. So I was right into My Bloody
- 1:51Valentine and another British band called Swerve Driver at the
- 1:56time. And I knew, I knew that I knew
- 2:00about. So I died.
- 2:01But I, I never did the dive at the time.
- 2:04I had a mate's girlfriend who used to listen to them all the
- 2:10time. And she also actually was the
- 2:11one that used to listen to cocktail twins.
- 2:13If you listen to that episode, I mentioned that.
- 2:15And I never did the dive on either at the time.
- 2:18But, but I, I liked them but didn't know them.
- 2:21So Fast forward to 2017 and yeah, I I can't think of a band
- 2:27that's sort of done what they've done in the sense that they had
- 2:32three albums in the 90s. They they went their own
- 2:35separate ways for a while inside projects and came back in I
- 2:41think around 2015 when they reformed, released an album
- 2:442017, the self-titled, which is one of my favourite all time
- 2:49albums now. So I just their comeback is I
- 2:53can't think of another band that's come back the way they
- 2:55did. So I came in to them really
- 2:59heavily at that point. That was my favorite album of
- 3:02that year and then went back through the discography from
- 3:05there. So and so and love.
- 3:09I love all of it. So they they definitely would be
- 3:13one of my favorite bands now that if I look at what I listen
- 3:16to and what what gets in rotation and what I've purchased
- 3:20on vinyl as well. I own two of their albums on
- 3:22vinyl. Great out vinyl band to have.
- 3:25So I think they're just I, I just love them.
- 3:30I've seen them live. They can come come to little old
- 3:33Adelaide, which is great. Not every band does, but they
- 3:37did. And they've got quite a
- 3:39following in Australia actually. I'll be interested to see what
- 3:42Jamie's got to say about that too.
- 3:44But they do seem to have quite a following here.
- 3:48So yeah, really excited to talk about one of those, you know,
- 3:54forefront of the shoe guys movement, but also ambient
- 3:58sounds. And they're still making
- 4:00exciting music now, which is is not something you can say for a
- 4:04lot of bands that reform from from from the old days.
- 4:09So yeah. Sure.
- 4:12You you had mentioned Jamie and Jamie is used to doing these
- 4:17episodes with Josh. It's usually the two of them.
- 4:20So I mean, this is new ground. Clearly this is a band that
- 4:25really struck strikes a chord with you for you to kind of step
- 4:29out and in that way. So talk to me about Slowdive.
- 4:34Yeah, I got into Slow Dive probably around 20/16/2017.
- 4:39It's funny because it was one of those recommendations that
- 4:42Spotify does when you're browsing through trying to find
- 4:45something new. At the time I was listening to
- 4:48some more Australian than shoe gaze bands, so Flying Colours
- 4:53who are from Melbourne, Low Tide or a band that was from
- 4:57Melbourne as well, Death Cult and then also some other bands
- 5:00like Dive and many others. And then Slow Dive came up in my
- 5:06face and the album that really wrapped my attention was the
- 5:11Silverlaki album. Like I would listen to that
- 5:14album back to front so many times.
- 5:17There are so many really good euphoric kind of tracks in there
- 5:21that I really like to listen to, especially during the night time
- 5:24when you can just like lay in bed and have this on.
- 5:27That's when I think it's like at its peak.
- 5:31And then as I start listening to them, suddenly, you know, it
- 5:36comes to my attention that, you know, this band from the 90s who
- 5:39haven't released an album in 20 years, has released a new album
- 5:42and are going to be coming to Australia for their first show
- 5:46since their reunion. So like, I got into them just
- 5:49before that happened and then when I was really at the peak
- 5:53listening to their music is when they released the new stuff and
- 5:56then came to Australia. And then going to that gig.
- 6:01Yeah, when they came down to Melbourne was something special.
- 6:05Like it really did feel like a new chapter in the band and the
- 6:10energy that they had was really, really high.
- 6:12So it was just a really exciting time for me to get into them.
- 6:16And yeah, being a big fan of them since, you know, their
- 6:20latest album is also a really good listen as well.
- 6:24It's very, it's a it's a more modern shoe guys takes compared
- 6:28to I think what they had created in the 90s.
- 6:32But, you know, it's really progressing the Shoe guys genre,
- 6:36which, like I'm said, has quite a big following underground
- 6:42following kind of in Melbourne. And, you know, they're very good
- 6:45at selling out the shows that they do.
- 6:48Yeah. Like, you know, well, we're
- 6:51British bands. It's to put it in context, like
- 6:54bands coming to Australia is obviously a very big deal all
- 6:56the time. American bands seem to be more
- 7:00able to come down and justify coming to Australia.
- 7:04So for a British band to come to Australia, you really need to
- 7:07have quite a big following for them to put that financial costs
- 7:13in. And the fact that Sodive have
- 7:16done it now I think three times since they've reformed really
- 7:19shows how much of an influence their music has in Australia.
- 7:24Because otherwise, yeah, British bands or bands from Europe in
- 7:27general just really aren't seeing live playing live in
- 7:31Australia. So I guess that's that's really,
- 7:33I'll say a lot to the influence that's played on it in their
- 7:37music has. Well, I mean, Speaking of
- 7:40America, so John, a couple weeks after the panel had gotten put
- 7:47together, I, I think we had done an episode and you said, hey, is
- 7:52there room on this slow dive panel?
- 7:55So I mean, it had been up there for a while.
- 7:58Is this just a, a, was this just a, an excuse to get in?
- 8:02Talk to me about slow dive. Yeah, kind of a spur of the
- 8:06moment thing. Slow Dive is a band that I had
- 8:10heard of, obviously, like I remember some of their, a couple
- 8:13of their songs from doing college radio back in like the
- 8:16late 90s, early 2000s, but I never like really got into that.
- 8:21I never like sat down and listened to an album front to
- 8:23back or, or owned any of their stuff.
- 8:25But like I was aware of like shoe gaze, obviously, you know,
- 8:29you guys mentioned my Bloody Valentine, Sword driver, things
- 8:32like that. And like that kind of wall of
- 8:35distortion thing that I, that I really like.
- 8:38And as I've gotten older that like, really I go to is like a
- 8:42calming kind of thing, as weird as that is.
- 8:45Like it's, it's like soothing, you know, like that, that just
- 8:48that huge wall of distortion that they, that those bands use.
- 8:52And, you know, Slow Dive is, you know, they're considered one of
- 8:56the the best of that genre, you know, along with those other
- 8:59bands. So, yeah, when I, when I saw
- 9:02this was up, I've been obviously I love doing the show.
- 9:04So I was like, yeah, let me get in on this.
- 9:06And and, you know, really get a chance to sit down and and
- 9:10digest him and like listen to these records and really sit
- 9:13with it. So yeah, that that's why I'm
- 9:14here. But yeah, I really enjoyed it.
- 9:16They're a great band. So kind of similarly to to John
- 9:22in that this is kind of a band that I've seen the name, you
- 9:27know, 8,000,000 times and never kind of processed it.
- 9:32You know, we kind of talked about this on the dive episode.
- 9:35We kind of there's there's bands that have kind of always been on
- 9:39my per if that I just never, I never push play.
- 9:43And you know, this is this is a pretty big blind spot for me.
- 9:46And, you know, I, I don't know why 'cause I, I feel like, I
- 9:57feel like if this would have gotten to me, you know, roughly
- 10:02the same time I kind of got into Silversun Pickups.
- 10:05And I know that's like a huge, you know, time leap, but like,
- 10:10that's kind of what opened my eyes to shoegaze, even though,
- 10:13you know, you could argue that there's, you know, pumpkin stuff
- 10:16that is shoegaze. But when when I.
- 10:19Hum Hum to hum is very shoegaze adjacent.
- 10:22Right. Well, and I guess what I'm what
- 10:24I'm what I'm saying is like opening my eyes to the term shoe
- 10:29gaze, right and and kind of, you know, yes, I like to be hum and
- 10:37pumpkins and that kind of have that adjacent Ness they have.
- 10:42They have things that are shoe gazy about them, but I never
- 10:49knew the term. And you know, there there was a
- 10:54band, I think from your area, John.
- 10:56I think they were from Atlanta today, the moon, tomorrow, the
- 10:59sun that came up here roughly. Well, I guess this would have
- 11:04probably been around 2010. That really kind of ramped up my
- 11:08my desire to kind of follow shoe what shoe gaze was.
- 11:12And anybody who's been paying any kind of attention to this
- 11:16show knows that I rarely ever like go backwards on my own.
- 11:19Like it's it takes it took this show to, you know, make me go
- 11:24backwards with bands. All this to say, you know, while
- 11:28this isn't quite in my pocket, this is something that I
- 11:32probably should have at least been listening to pretty much
- 11:35all along because it is like it is really at worst, you know,
- 11:40couple clicks off of things that I love about music anyway.
- 11:45So I believe we kind of we covered everything.
- 11:49Adam I I don't I mean, it's 53 songs.
- 11:51I think that's everything because as you mentioned,
- 11:53there's like there's the album in 89 and then the fall, the 90s
- 11:59records and then what, 2-3 records sense I think I don't, I
- 12:04don't remember the exact. But regardless, like with a band
- 12:07like this where it's, you know, kind of these walls of sound,
- 12:11it's kind of like difficult to kind of break apart.
- 12:15Did you find bringing A20 to this like difficult or was this
- 12:19easier than you expect? Well, funnily enough, I was
- 12:25thinking it was slow going, slow dive was slow going.
- 12:28I mean, I it was, it was hard, like you said, Justin.
- 12:33So it's not. Yeah, it's 5 albums, three from
- 12:35the first era and two, two currently from the second.
- 12:38I mean, still together. I can't wait for the the next
- 12:41one because they're still so, so innovative and vibrant in their
- 12:46songwriting. But I found it really hard
- 12:49because I think their albums are almost like I was trying to come
- 12:53up with an analogy like a big block of chocolate and which
- 12:56square of the chocolate do you want to sort of select?
- 12:59OK, yeah. Not that they all sound the
- 13:02same, but but but they all there is a there is a listening
- 13:05experience. And Jamie sort of talked about
- 13:07the late at night and I definitely often, you know, the
- 13:10great headphones band or, or a nice quiet night, you know, with
- 13:17a glass of red wine and put the record on kind of thing and you
- 13:22listen to it in its entirety. So breaking up something like
- 13:25that is very difficult, particularly for their albums
- 13:29that like Slovaki and and the two new ones in particular for
- 13:35me were were really hard. Just for a day was actually a
- 13:39little bit of a discovery. I didn't know everything on
- 13:41that. So and I love that too.
- 13:44So I look, I found it really hard kind of, I think kind of
- 13:49sat on 30 something for a while because we did take a while to
- 13:52with, with it all anyway. And then when I was forced to go
- 13:55into the 20s and then I actually when we locked in the day, I
- 13:59went, yeah, yeah, I'm ready to go.
- 14:00Then I went and had a look at my list and actually I've got 24.
- 14:03I still had four songs to cut, oops, which I had to do
- 14:06yesterday. And I've got them, I've got them
- 14:10sort of separated out here. So when if they come up, I will
- 14:12call them out. But yeah.
- 14:16And my distribution is pretty even.
- 14:20I get, well, not totally even there.
- 14:23I think there's one album that's sort of lesser than the other,
- 14:27the other 4, But outside of that, a good spread.
- 14:33Sorry. Yeah, yeah, there's there's
- 14:34probably one that I mean, I still like it, but you know, if
- 14:37I'm I'm like giving songs for that one just to a new listener.
- 14:40Probably, probably not. So.
- 14:43So that one didn't get a lot, but yeah.
- 14:46But I I can't wait to talk about them.
- 14:48Yeah, I'll shut up now. I'll be curious to see if it's
- 14:50the one that that I kind of came to the same same feeling.
- 14:56I came to the same conclusion. So we'll, we'll get to that as
- 14:59as it goes. Jamie, I know you're really
- 15:02meticulous with this. Like you, you like to take your
- 15:05time with your lists. Like as a matter of fact, you,
- 15:07Josh and I are working on another one.
- 15:09And he said, no, I can't not until slow dive is done.
- 15:11So talk, talk to me about your how how you went through this
- 15:15one this time. So getting the songs into a list
- 15:21wasn't too bad, although it did take a lot of effort to not just
- 15:25put all of the new songs and all of civil life in there.
- 15:32Yeah, some effort to like really pick out the standouts.
- 15:36I'm also, I think we're I'm on the same wavelength as the two
- 15:40of you is the one album which I haven't listened to it much and
- 15:44every time I've listened to it, it hasn't really grabbed my
- 15:46attention. So I don't actually have any.
- 15:49Like I had one song in my 30 that I ended up having, but it
- 15:53didn't make my 20 just because I didn't think anything on there
- 15:57stood out enough to really go. Yes, it's better than, you know,
- 16:00any of the Super Laki songs or any of the more recent stuff,
- 16:05especially. But then like once he gets to
- 16:10that 30, like there's a couple of very clear standout songs,
- 16:14but for a lot of the time it's hard for me to listen to a track
- 16:18and go, I love the wall of distortion this creates and then
- 16:23you listen to the next one go. I love the the sound and the
- 16:26wall of distortion is creating just go.
- 16:28They they all have the same thing that I really, really
- 16:31like, but there's only 20 spots and I can't just put them all in
- 16:34for the same reason why I like it.
- 16:35So I had to really narrowed down on minor particulars that made
- 16:40them different and better than one or the other.
- 16:43And it really was very difficult.
- 16:45Again, not because everything sounds the same, but because
- 16:49there's nothing like they're not a band that necessarily often
- 16:53creates a song that is completely different to there
- 16:59are other songs in a very tangible way.
- 17:02So yeah, it was very difficult to get it down to 20 and there
- 17:07are some songs out of my 20 which I do quite like, but I
- 17:11just don't think if I was to introduce it to someone new that
- 17:14that would be the first one I would show them.
- 17:17Yeah. So with this being a semi
- 17:21discovery for you John, like does that mean a different
- 17:24approach, especially with this kind of music?
- 17:28Well, yeah, it's always different when like you don't
- 17:31have a like a preconceived emotional attachment to all
- 17:36these songs, right, 'cause like that's, that's not something
- 17:39that I've, you know, lived with for like, you know, 30-40 years,
- 17:43like some of these bands we do. So in that sense, it's a little
- 17:46easier because I don't have the baggage associated with it and I
- 17:50don't have to worry about like that.
- 17:53But then again, like then like, you know, you don't feel as
- 17:58confident like do I do I know that this one's not going to
- 18:01like you try to get that as you're listening to try to see
- 18:04which ones are going to hit you. But like, without those like
- 18:07years of listening, it's, it's, it's a different experience.
- 18:09But yeah, not, not too bad. Like I, I pretty much just went
- 18:14with what grabbed me and tried not to make too many, you know,
- 18:17corrections and adjustments, tried to just stick with like
- 18:20the the first impact. But yeah, I think I had probably
- 18:2525 or 26 on the first pass. So not too bad.
- 18:29But we'll see how it goes. I could be all over the place.
- 18:32I feel, I mean, you know, again, you know, that's where, where I
- 18:35kind of always am. I'm always kind of a wild card.
- 18:39So I hesitate to say like 1 record didn't find me.
- 18:45I don't even think that was necessarily the case.
- 18:48I think there was one record that this has already been said
- 18:51a couple times that I don't know that those songs are the ones
- 18:55that I would give to somebody. And I coincidentally, I felt
- 18:59like that record kind of worked best as a record, like as a
- 19:03whole, like it. It feels like if I'm going to
- 19:06give somebody that, you know, that's you give them the just
- 19:10the whole thing, you go just listen to this and you know,
- 19:13we'll come back around to that as as we, we get around the
- 19:15songs, but they really quickly get to what they are.
- 19:22And to Jamie's point, they don't really leave what they are.
- 19:27You know, there's and again, that's not to say that they all
- 19:30sound the same, but like it's almost like they're all kind of
- 19:33constructed the same. And so it I found it really hard
- 19:38to go, OK, well, you know, this is a good reason to get rid of
- 19:42this one. There were some that I just like
- 19:45felt very strongly about and we'll we'll see where those
- 19:48land. But like for the most part, I
- 19:52think I don't even remember what I put in the chat, but it the
- 19:55the number 30 jumps out at me, which seems high for a 53 song
- 20:00playlist. But I feel like my cuts weren't
- 20:04like as brutal. My first pass felt brutal.
- 20:09Making the cuts didn't feel as brutal, so.
- 20:15John, So now knowing that John and I could be wild cards here,
- 20:20Adam going to this next phase, does that feel like it could be
- 20:24chaos for the final say? Like how many do you think we
- 20:27get through unanimously? Yeah.
- 20:31I mean, four person panels, always hard to know anyway, but
- 20:37but it isn't a huge discography. I think though there, I think
- 20:41there are three albums where we could be because they're so
- 20:44good. Like there's not.
- 20:45I just don't think there's a bad song from Slovaki.
- 20:48They're still titled or Everything is alive, but.
- 20:51To be honest. There's no songs on those I
- 20:53don't like. So, so we could, we could miss
- 20:57each other, but I'm going to go 5 because I think there'll be, I
- 21:01think there's some that stand out.
- 21:02So I'll go 5, OK. That seems solid for a four
- 21:06person panel. What do you think, Jamie?
- 21:10We know famously I'm awful getting the final say.
- 21:14Like I think I've done, I don't know, I think I'm talking about
- 21:17programs or something. Man, I've done so many.
- 21:20And then somehow Josh, out of eight of those, Josh has maybe
- 21:23gotten it 7 times and just in months or something.
- 21:28Or I don't know. But look, with four people, but
- 21:34it's only 53 songs, I'm going to go for.
- 21:42I'll be pessimistic and go for it's because of how much of A
- 21:48breath they have in their their music.
- 21:51I'll say this 4 is really not that pessimistic on a four
- 21:54person panel with two kind of New Year's.
- 21:57It's it seems pessimistic because it's lower than that
- 22:00Adam's 5, but I don't think it's all that pessimistic.
- 22:05John, what do you think? Yeah, 4 was going to be my
- 22:08number and like I think, you know, don't feel bad.
- 22:11I had like a 20 or 25 show losing streak on this thing.
- 22:14So I've been doing a little bit better lately.
- 22:17But I've my new thing is math. Like does the math work out to
- 22:22to have it be a high number? And yes, four people, but only
- 22:2753 songs. My number was going to be 4, but
- 22:29I'm going to say 6. Think that the math is there.
- 22:32OK, I like that. I feel like you're 6 is is spot
- 22:40on because when I feel like I got 6 specific answers and I had
- 22:46all of them so 6 feels good. I'll go the next step seven.
- 22:54OK, Price is right that not that it really matters.
- 23:00We'll see what happens. Maybe I'll maybe I'll win.
- 23:02Who knows? All right, we're going to take a
- 23:04quick pause and when we come back, it's time to play the
- 23:06game. It's to program Jack.
- 23:13And with that, the name of the game is deprogrammed.
- 23:16The four of us have combed through the Slow Dive
- 23:19discography and plucked out 20 songs that are now going to mash
- 23:22together in an attempt to create a top 10 surrogate for you in
- 23:25case you have never given Slow Dive the time of day.
- 23:29And I could do the thing, but I, I don't want to do the thing.
- 23:33I think I'm going to do a different thing because I was
- 23:37listening to the playlist beforehand.
- 23:39And when this song came up, it is an answer I got.
- 23:43It feels super accessible. It is a track 1.
- 23:48I feel like it is the very, you know, next evolution of the band
- 23:52after the first record. Obviously, I'm going to go with
- 23:55Allison. I got it.
- 24:00Yes. The 90s were a good time to be
- 24:04named Alice. And you had the Pixies, the Gin
- 24:06Blossoms, all had songs about girls named Alice and not to
- 24:10mention Elvis Costello. The the the original 1.
- 24:13So yeah, you can add, you can add Slow Dive to that list.
- 24:16Yeah, I have it. Yes, yes.
- 24:19I mean, you know, I didn't want to give too much away because
- 24:21everybody was praising souvlaki, but like that's the one.
- 24:27That's the one to me. Like, I mean, there's other ones
- 24:31that are, you know, in the conversation, I feel, but like
- 24:37Souvlaki's the one where I can literally do the thing where I
- 24:40go, every song is available, you know, I every song is going to
- 24:45be in play. But this song is such a great
- 24:48way to kick it off. It's accessible, it's catchy,
- 24:53it's it's a good way to kind of put forward what this band does
- 24:57without kind of really giving them something like overly drawn
- 25:01out, which they're great at. But like if you want to kind of
- 25:05open somebody's eyes to it, then you kind of want to ease them
- 25:08in. And I feel like this is a great
- 25:10way to ease somebody in so. Yeah, and I think lyrically the
- 25:14song is probably one of the easiest to listen to as well,
- 25:17because it's unlike a lot of their songs where the draining
- 25:20guitars kind of make it a bit more ambiguous.
- 25:25This one's very clear. And that it's kind of, Yeah,
- 25:28nice and fun to listen to and has a pretty meaning to it, so
- 25:32yeah. There we go.
- 25:34Boom. Just like that, right, Adam?
- 25:40OK, I'm actually going to style slovaki actually, because it is.
- 25:47I mean, it's seen it now as one of the one of the best two guys
- 25:51albums of all time and same as it is definitely a classic
- 25:54album. And I'm wearing this T-shirt
- 25:58actually because I I love band merch when I go and see a band
- 26:01and I bought the T-shirt and that's one of my favorite
- 26:03T-shirts. So I'll send you a photo later
- 26:05on when the sun. Hits.
- 26:08Yeah, I got it. Yes.
- 26:11Yep. Hey, I didn't see that one
- 26:15coming. It's like their title, it's the
- 26:19number. One here is it.
- 26:21I think so. All right, I don't think I
- 26:26anybody answered that one. Hold on.
- 26:27I'll. I can tell you in like half a
- 26:30second we get this queued up and again, I don't, you know, not to
- 26:37beat a dead horse, but souvlaki, all of it.
- 26:40Yeah. No.
- 26:41When the sun gets. Did not get, did not nobody
- 26:43answer. Really.
- 26:44Yeah, well. You just don't have a very good
- 26:46audience. I would say, I would say it's
- 26:50probably it is their biggest, you know, is a hit is the right
- 26:54word, but it certainly from their first incarnation anyway,
- 26:58so. Is that 1 they did a video for?
- 27:00I know they did some videos. I think so.
- 27:05I'm not sure, Jamie, do you know?
- 27:07Yeah. I'm not too certain on that, but
- 27:11I do know. No, Alice, not home, but.
- 27:15I'm pretty certain that when I found Slow Dive, it might have
- 27:18been the song that I found so. Well, I've got a T-shirt for the
- 27:24song, so it's got a, it's done something.
- 27:27I didn't say T-shirts for the other songs.
- 27:30So there you go. I'm glad that I, I, you know, we
- 27:34all seem to have found this, the song.
- 27:36Well, I should say speak for me because John said maybe there
- 27:39was a video. I found that one just because I
- 27:42liked it. So I, I like that again, I
- 27:46always love when a song comes up that I feel like didn't feel
- 27:50obvious but apparently was obvious.
- 27:52And so apparently this one was obvious.
- 27:54Man, I'm into that. That means, I mean, maybe
- 27:57there's more out there. One thing I wouldn't mind saying
- 28:01about it is that I don't know if this makes sense, but when I
- 28:04hear this song, it just sounds. It just sounds so enormous.
- 28:08It does sound like the sound like it's just.
- 28:11There's something about the way the timing of the the chords
- 28:15work as well that makes it really sound expensive.
- 28:19And I love, I love that into you guys when that when that gets
- 28:22done right. And in this particular song,
- 28:24it's it's neon perfect. Yeah.
- 28:28There we go. No pressure, Jamie.
- 28:31We're 2 for two. Look, I think I'm going to go a
- 28:36different track. I'm going to say a song that
- 28:39probably isn't going to get a home run, but I really want to
- 28:44talk about it and it's best to do it at the very start.
- 28:48And that is Golden Hair. I do not have that one.
- 28:56Nope. I'm sorry, I don't have it
- 29:00either, but it's a good one. That's OK, but the main reason
- 29:03why I wanted to bring it up though was I remember when I
- 29:07went to slow dive the very first time listening to them live at
- 29:12the time, unlike now, which we're kind of lucky, they had a
- 29:18lot of B side tracks that just weren't available on stream
- 29:23platforms or any means to really listen to it.
- 29:26And so I go to hear them live and then suddenly they play
- 29:31Golden Hair live. And it was one of those magical
- 29:35times where I remember I'm just standing there in the crowd
- 29:38going, this sounds incredible. I've never heard it before.
- 29:42And I think the one recommendation I would say to
- 29:47anyone who wants to listen to Slow Dive is Golden Hair on
- 29:52Spotify is all right. Golden Hair, if you listen to
- 29:55their live recording of it, is significantly better because the
- 30:00song goes for twice the length and it's kind of builds and
- 30:04builds and builds more and more. So like the the end of the
- 30:09Spotify track is building, but then imagine that but going for
- 30:14another like 3 minutes or so. Like it gets much, much more
- 30:19intense and high energy, which is why I really like the song.
- 30:25So although the Spotify version isn't a top 20, if you're
- 30:29listening to it solely on Spotify, there's a really good
- 30:32live recording that you can find on YouTube which elevates the
- 30:36song well and truly. This is what I love about you,
- 30:41Jamie, not afraid to bring, you know, these these big whiffs,
- 30:47but like having having the reasons for them.
- 30:49So all right, unfortunately, Jamie is in the bin already.
- 30:54John, you're up. All right, I'm going to go I'm
- 30:58going to stay off of souvlaki in the early stuff.
- 31:01I'm going to go to the to the most recent 1.
- 31:04And I I love a good last track. Like give me, give me a good
- 31:08last track to to tie everything together.
- 31:10And they they do that very well. I'd pick a few of them, but
- 31:14let's go with the slab off of Everything is alive.
- 31:18I don't have that. One yes.
- 31:22Yep. Oh, you guys all had it.
- 31:24I didn't. OK.
- 31:25I I don't have that one so. That was that was me saying yes
- 31:28twice. Sorry.
- 31:29Oh, OK. So it's a two then.
- 31:32OK, still, I mean, to your point, yes, very good at last
- 31:38tracks and also to the point it is one of it is the only answer
- 31:45that I got that I didn't have. So somebody else, somebody else
- 31:49out there agreed with you. So and had I had a little bit
- 31:53more time, who knows, maybe I would have changed my list a
- 31:55little. But so it's a two it's it gets
- 31:59to hang around. It ain't it ain't gone yet.
- 32:04All right, well, if we're going to branch out, how about I go to
- 32:09the self-titled record? How about * roving?
- 32:16Yes. Yes.
- 32:20Yeah. Hey.
- 32:22All right. I wasn't sure about that one.
- 32:27I wasn't sure about that one. It was kind of it was kind of
- 32:30their signature track for the when they came back as a band.
- 32:37I think. So I mean that the album is
- 32:40obviously very good, but Star Roving I feel like was the
- 32:44signature track to go. We're back, you know?
- 32:47What's interesting, what's interesting about this whole
- 32:50thing, this whole layer of this band is me not knowing that, you
- 32:57know, like to me it's just all these came like I, I very rarely
- 33:03look at dates. I did look at when did just for
- 33:06a day come out just to see when they started, but I presumed
- 33:12that all these came out together now.
- 33:14I mean when you right. So like when you when you think
- 33:18about like this, the progression of the sound like it makes a lot
- 33:21of sense, especially like the most recent effort.
- 33:25But like, it's interesting that this found me because it sounds
- 33:30like the old stuff, but also you can like now knowing that there
- 33:34was a break there, it kind of clocks like, Oh yeah, yeah, that
- 33:38is, that is a little bit more modern than, you know, the 90s
- 33:42records. So I I think that's a neat
- 33:45little addition to it. Absolutely.
- 33:50But one thing that song, I mean, it's almost sounds like a
- 33:55classic 80s or 90s indie song to me, but I like it's.
- 34:01How was that sort of rift still available?
- 34:04Like, you know what I mean? Like it smells like, but but it,
- 34:08yeah, it's just that, yeah, it's it's a really good one.
- 34:13I'm glad we got that one through.
- 34:14Yeah, without question, eh, just like that.
- 34:18All right, Adam, where do you want to go?
- 34:20OK, I'm going to pick another one off of that, off of the
- 34:25self-titled. So the return album, which I I
- 34:29think possibly is one of their best songs I'm going to say, but
- 34:33is Sugar the Pill? I caught that.
- 34:38I don't. Yeah, I got it too.
- 34:40Hey, all right, we'll take a we'll take a three there that
- 34:45gives us an advantage over that 2 for later on.
- 34:49Boom and boom. And you know, again, no real
- 34:55reason. I just don't have it.
- 34:56So take that three and Jamie. Here's another one that has a
- 35:04kind of anecdote from when I had it live for a different reason.
- 35:08So obviously we all know how good this Silver Lucky album was
- 35:13that when I heard them live, I was kind of lightly disappointed
- 35:17that I didn't hear this track live because I thought it was
- 35:20really good. I was like, how could they not?
- 35:21But at the time, of course, we know they're S part of the album
- 35:24that they had just released was really good and that had taken a
- 35:27lot of the spotlight, plus a lot of the throwbacks like golden
- 35:31hair. So but then when I saw them very
- 35:34recently, they did play this track and I was very happy to
- 35:37hear it live. And that track is Machine Gun.
- 35:40Yeah, you got it. Yes.
- 35:46Yep, I got it too. It's like, it's funny because
- 35:52like the song, the lyrics don't actually make a lot of sense,
- 35:56but it's just that feeling you get from it.
- 36:00I love Son of Sheba though, I just think when that pit comes
- 36:03in. Oh yeah.
- 36:05It's just great. It's just gets me every time.
- 36:09I I, I agree with you. No idea Jamie, what it's what
- 36:12it's about, but I love it. Like Shoe Dave in a nutshell.
- 36:18Yeah, it for sure is like a vibe.
- 36:21It for sure is like a feeling. And I mean it, it comes off of,
- 36:28you know, Allison, it's like the next track, I think, right?
- 36:31It's track 2. So it's like this nice 1-2 punch
- 36:35where where it's like, yes, this is also that.
- 36:40Like this is also what this band does.
- 36:43Very cool. All right, machine gun in and
- 36:48we're already up to four with so much wiggle room, John.
- 36:55All right, I always like it when a band does a title track for
- 36:59the band. Like name a name a song after
- 37:02your band. So let's go with the the song
- 37:04Slow Dive. I had it on my first pass but it
- 37:08did not make make my final. No, sorry.
- 37:15Yeah, I had it on my first pass, but it didn't make my final.
- 37:20I agree it's a good track. It's only the song that they
- 37:23named the band after guys. I know, right?
- 37:27They named the band Slow Dive actually after a fuck no Twins.
- 37:30Song. I did.
- 37:31I did, yeah. All right, well, I'll stay on
- 37:39that record with you, John. Just see if we can find one from
- 37:45that. How about Catch the Breeze?
- 37:49Yep, Nope. Catch the breeze I do have, yes.
- 37:55Yep. We'll take a three, three.
- 37:58I'm a sucker for a song that like, has a really heavy ending
- 38:03and this track does that for me as well.
- 38:06I forgot that it reminded me of My Bloody Valentine quite a lot.
- 38:09This one, It's just a massive wall by the end.
- 38:12Yeah, 1. Of these days, I'll get into
- 38:14that band. I haven't yet.
- 38:16So oh, you need to. You need to.
- 38:20All right, catch the Breeze grabs 3 Adam where you want to
- 38:23go. So I mentioned the start just
- 38:27for a day was a bit of a discovery for me and I actually
- 38:30found I really like that they fit their day bill out.
- 38:33I think it's excellent and really good just to put on and
- 38:36listen to. And I thought there was a real
- 38:42grand entrance to, I think it's number one track, I think it
- 38:45might be #1 track, the first track, Spanish Air.
- 38:48Yeah, I got it. That was in my first pass I
- 38:53think like. Yeah.
- 38:58No, I don't have it. I think I agree just for days of
- 39:03really good track. My problem was is that there the
- 39:08Valaki album and self-titled album and even the most recent
- 39:12album was just too good and a lot of the Just for a Day songs
- 39:17unfortunately pushed down my list.
- 39:22Yeah, yeah. Fair enough.
- 39:24Yeah. All right, so Spanish Air gets
- 39:27to and hanging on by a thread here.
- 39:30Still kind of in the conversation, Jamie.
- 39:37I'm going to go with the track that stood out to me the most
- 39:41out of their first, the most recent album, sorry, because
- 39:44when I like the most recent album was good, but when I heard
- 39:47this track, I was like, Oh yeah, this is Slide I and that is
- 39:52there's track change to a cloud. I don't have that.
- 40:00No, I don't have it either, sorry.
- 40:04Found to happen, bound to happen again.
- 40:07I can say I I do love a track that just is a very heavy kind
- 40:15of instrumental tune and chained to a cloud just buzz that with
- 40:20simple and a really nice gentle song to listen to.
- 40:27All right, John. All right, I mentioned last
- 40:33tracks. Let's go back to Souflaki.
- 40:36How about dagger? Yes.
- 40:42No, no, no. And I didn't, but just because I
- 40:46couldn't take everything, you know?
- 40:49That was that was one of my half cuffs, unfortunately.
- 40:54Like I think I remember hearing it live when they played and I
- 40:58was like, Oh yeah. And if you had asked me before
- 41:03their recent album, maybe it would have made it into my 30.
- 41:07Like, not a bad track. It's just I don't think it's the
- 41:09top 20, especially with the most recent album.
- 41:13OK, background to me. I'll try something off of
- 41:21everything as live. Let's see if we can find
- 41:24something here. How about shanty?
- 41:28Yep, Absolutely, absolutely love that song.
- 41:32Yeah. Hey, I'm going to assume that
- 41:39song. This is a really good first
- 41:42first child the album. Great.
- 41:43Oh, that's everybody, right? Yeah, yeah, that's that's four.
- 41:47And there's there's a cocktail song that starts very similar.
- 41:51I forgot to go back and find out which one it was, but it's
- 41:55because they're definitely involved.
- 41:57I believe I got 2 twins, but I just I've got this one on vinyl.
- 42:00I've got Everything is a love on vinyl and I've just it's
- 42:03probably one of my most listened to records.
- 42:07I'll just keep putting it. I'll put it on this morning.
- 42:09Just a great, you know, record and that first, yeah, first
- 42:14song. It's just awesome.
- 42:17It so when this album started playing, I kind of assumed that
- 42:24this was the comeback album because this album is a slight
- 42:30bit different and you know, obviously in hindsight, like I
- 42:36can hear the difference in the self-titled one as well.
- 42:39But like, I don't know, something about this one felt
- 42:45like a little bit more modern, like kind of pushing the
- 42:48envelope of of what what we're going to do going forward.
- 42:52So like this, the immediacy of this was like, OK, yeah, I need
- 42:57this. So all right, boom.
- 42:59Shanty will get us up to five. Yeah, Adam's five with.
- 43:05I mean, I think I still have like half of my list available
- 43:10so I might be in the hot seat fellas all.
- 43:15Right, you could be. All right, Adam.
- 43:20OK, yeah, I I know what you mean by that, Justin.
- 43:24I'm going to stay on Everything is Alive because I was going to
- 43:27go you where you went was where I was going to go.
- 43:30So I'm going to stay on there because each album they've done
- 43:34to, I mean, I know there's the same there is someone could say
- 43:38there's the sameness to slow dive, but the each album is
- 43:40quite different. And the leap from slow dive
- 43:43self-titled to Everything is Alive was so exciting to me.
- 43:46Like just where they went. And I love the fact that they
- 43:51just put out on this album a great pop song.
- 43:55And that's kisses. I got it.
- 43:57I was going to say yeah. It's just a great simple pop
- 44:01song. I got it, yeah.
- 44:04I got it. No way.
- 44:07OK. Yeah, that's the thing to
- 44:10describe Kisses though. It's like it is a pop song.
- 44:14It is really like if Slow Dive tried to do a pop music.
- 44:18Yeah, totally. It's.
- 44:19The most radio friendly tune that they have created.
- 44:24I can't. Yep.
- 44:25Was that four? We got four there, didn't we?
- 44:28Oh, wow. OK.
- 44:30I really was pessimistic a just. Like that, we're at John 6.
- 44:39These. I think we've still got a few
- 44:40too anyway. Yeah.
- 44:44Hold on, what's the math? Yeah.
- 44:48All right, so kisses gets in. Boom.
- 44:53And that brings us to you, Jamie.
- 44:56I'm going to go also touch on something that was a bit
- 45:00different for slow dive track, but in a good way.
- 45:05And the reason why I like this song is it's late.
- 45:10I don't have prominent drums very often, but this song does
- 45:14and it's it's a standout for I think that reason.
- 45:17And that's a song no longer making time.
- 45:20Yeah, I got it. No.
- 45:25No, sorry. We'll take that too, but two
- 45:30gets to. Hand assuming people listen to
- 45:32it like you hear that sort of drum dump at the start of the
- 45:35track and throughout the whole track.
- 45:37Like usually it's not that the songs don't have drums, but
- 45:40they're not usually that prominent in a track like this
- 45:43song. I mean, I didn't break break it
- 45:47down, but I bet you, if anything, that's probably what
- 45:51stood out to me. I didn't.
- 45:53I didn't write anything. One of these days, I'll do that.
- 45:57All right, John. Let's go back to the beginning.
- 46:03How about Celia's dream? Yeah, I got it.
- 46:09Yes. That was cut out of my
- 46:12shortlist. Oh, sorry, we'll.
- 46:15Take that three though, that's a good spot for a three.
- 46:19We need them threes, although the threes will eventually kill
- 46:25these twos, so who knows? All right, back around to me.
- 46:35We got 3 threes and six fours. Come on computer, get with the
- 46:40program or don't. Whatever man, it's fine.
- 46:45Make me look a fool. I feel like there's two out here
- 46:55that that that could be Homer's still, but who knows, right?
- 47:03I guess no time like the present to find out.
- 47:09How about 40 days? Yep.
- 47:17No. Yes, OK.
- 47:20I'll take that 3. That probably just kind of a
- 47:25process of you can't take everything, Adam.
- 47:29Totally, Yeah. I mean, I think, I think I had
- 47:33it really every time. I'm still Bucky on my list and
- 47:36the first time it's like, come on, you can't do that.
- 47:40They're more than one album. But but I've got that.
- 47:43I just. Yeah, it's a great song.
- 47:45So you wouldn't get much argument from me.
- 47:47OK. We'll take the three there.
- 47:50All right, Adam. So we haven't talked about this
- 47:54one yet, but I I want to go there.
- 47:56So Pygmalion, which is probably the the black sheep of the
- 48:01family in terms of the five albums, but and it's the one
- 48:04that what's the scene to it? It's probably more of an it's an
- 48:08ambient album more so than two guys album.
- 48:13And it's it's when the IT was the beginning of the end for
- 48:17their first incarnation, because I think they had, I think Neil
- 48:24was wanting to go in slightly different musical direction at
- 48:26the time. And it, it bombed.
- 48:29It bombed. So because Slovaki was was a was
- 48:32a indie hit in the UK at the time.
- 48:35And then Pygmalion was nowhere. But I think it's still a really
- 48:39good album and deserves some representation.
- 48:43Yeah. Or some discussion.
- 48:44So song, first song, Ruti, I love it.
- 48:49I think it's just gets in your head and so I've chose that one.
- 48:54I. Do I?
- 48:55Do not have that one. I do.
- 49:00I don't a. 2 Not bad for what is seemingly very obviously the one
- 49:07that we were all talking about at the beginning.
- 49:10Yeah, yeah. All right, Jamie.
- 49:18OK, I think I'll go for we'll go back to slow dive album and go
- 49:30for probably the track with the highest BPM that they have and
- 49:35that's don't know why. I got it.
- 49:41Yes, that's yeah, I do. That's one of my favorite songs,
- 49:45Jamie. Yeah, it's just so hot.
- 49:49It's like, again, it's very high energy for what it is until it
- 49:53gets to the chorus. It really flows down and gets
- 49:55dreamy. Gorgeous guitars.
- 49:58So just beautiful, yeah. Yeah.
- 50:02I think we just eliminated all these twos.
- 50:08All right, just watch it, John. Yeah, I'll go back to Pygmalion.
- 50:16To no one's surprised, I'm going to pick the closing track.
- 50:17How about all of us? No.
- 50:22No sorry can't help you mate all.
- 50:27Right. Well, I'll stay there with you
- 50:29guys because I've got a track from that record.
- 50:35I also would like to take this point like, you know, I think
- 50:38it's a good record. And I think to your point, Adam,
- 50:41I think, I think maybe subconsciously my brain was
- 50:48putting together that this was it because it is less shoegazy.
- 50:53And I, I, I, I don't know that I tracked it in real time, but I,
- 50:59I, I do also think that it because it's ambient.
- 51:02I feel like that's what made it work more as a record as opposed
- 51:05to like trying to break things out.
- 51:07So that being said, I have one track from that record, Blue
- 51:12Skyed and clear. No.
- 51:17No. Not.
- 51:19Yeah. I've still got one left, but not
- 51:21that one. OK.
- 51:23Right into the bin it goes, And Adam.
- 51:28OK, so this is I want to go to Everything is Alive Again and a
- 51:35song that up until preparing for this I used to think in my head
- 51:39was called Alfie, but it's actually a lot.
- 51:43Yeah, I got it. I don't it's on a shortlist but.
- 51:51I got it. That's a three.
- 51:53Yeah, good. Yeah, yeah.
- 51:58Just the gorgeous guitars again, like just to feel like they're
- 52:02really perfecting that kind of lush layering of guitars on that
- 52:08album. Boom.
- 52:12All right, Jane. I'll go with with this track
- 52:21from We'll go back to the Civil Laki album and this track for
- 52:27some reason just reminds me of Rashling Clank soundtrack if
- 52:32that makes any sense. But it's the track Civil Laki
- 52:36Space Station. Yeah, I got it.
- 52:40Yes, great. Great song 07.
- 52:43There you go. Oh, no, yeah.
- 52:46Can someone please explain to me like what this song's about
- 52:49because I do not know what it's about.
- 52:53No. Wish I could.
- 52:55Man, it's got a space station where you get little cuts of
- 52:57meat like in like little hero Greek cuts of meat, right?
- 53:01Maybe. I'm taking it very literally,
- 53:04right? It makes me feel like I'm on a
- 53:06spaceship or like, again, playing Ratchet and Clank, it
- 53:09feels like a trap would be played there but with a lot more
- 53:13distortion. It's just weird.
- 53:16You do feel like you're in space.
- 53:19The name makes sense, I just do not know what it's about.
- 53:22I think Major Tom might have floated past, I'm not sure, but
- 53:25anyway. Possibly.
- 53:28Yeah. All right, just like that, we're
- 53:33at 7, John. All right, how about see I've
- 53:40only got 4 left? How about slow MO?
- 53:42Yeah, I got it. Yep.
- 53:46Yes. Hey, thank you.
- 53:47Wow, get that off of me. We got eight, yeah.
- 53:53We did. Yeah.
- 53:55We're. Gonna you know, there might be a
- 53:59couple. Was like Lomo is a great track
- 54:03that like it was obviously to the self-titled album.
- 54:08It was the introductory track that they played when they
- 54:10played live for the first time in 20 years.
- 54:13You know, it really is a good way to announce that they were
- 54:16back. That was the first song that got
- 54:21me to go back because of, you know, I listened to their new
- 54:24album, read of reviews that it was really good.
- 54:26So I've time to jump into a slow dive now.
- 54:28Listen to it. That song and went, oh, my God,
- 54:31this is massively my my thing, you know, so.
- 54:37And I haven't turned back from there, of course.
- 54:39But yeah, that it's a great song.
- 54:41Yeah. Yeah.
- 54:43All right, so let's see 1/2 three.
- 54:47I only have 3 left, so I'm just going to dump out.
- 54:49And because that's that's seems to be where we're at, I chose
- 54:55this one specifically Avalyn 2. No, I don't have it.
- 55:03I was toying between Evelyn one and Two for a period before they
- 55:08both just dropped off. I, I think I rated Evelyn One
- 55:12higher because I think it was short enough to be a bit more
- 55:18relevant, I guess in a way. But again, one of those tracks
- 55:22that they played live, there was no recording when they first
- 55:26came back and then when they released it was like, great.
- 55:28I'm so glad I can actually re listen to it again.
- 55:32For the record, I got an answer. The person just said Evelyn, so
- 55:36I assume they must have meant the two together.
- 55:39But all right, Evelyn, two goes in the bin, I'll say on that
- 55:45same record. How about shine?
- 55:49No. OK.
- 55:51And then last but not least, off of everything is a live
- 55:55Andalucia plays No no. No Great song, man.
- 56:03Bit like right at the end there. OK.
- 56:06All right, Adam, whatever you got left.
- 56:12Yeah, so on. Just for a day.
- 56:14I've got waves. Yes.
- 56:17Great track, don't have it. OK, so that's two was it?
- 56:23Yep, Yep. On Slovakia I've got Here she
- 56:27comes. Don't have that one, no.
- 56:31This is really mellow and sad, which I I really like.
- 56:37On Pygmalion I had visions of LA.
- 56:42No. Yep, and then I've got 1 left on
- 56:47slow dive, self-titled, no longer making time.
- 56:52Oh hang on, we've already got that, haven't we?
- 56:54Yeah, yeah, sorry, I've already. Oh, does that make that a three?
- 56:59Sorry. No worries, but that does take
- 57:02it for a two or three. Yeah, whoops.
- 57:06Sorry, my bad on that. So that's me out now, yeah.
- 57:09All. Right.
- 57:12Technically, Jamie, you can make a couple more twos here.
- 57:16We'll see how we go. So I've got everyone knows which
- 57:23is in my mind the Take Me to America song from them.
- 57:27Nope. And then I've got from the
- 57:34recent album Prayer Remembered. Nope.
- 57:39Again, I like it just because it's an instrumental from
- 57:45Zuvalaki. I've got melon yellow.
- 57:49Nope. I've got also from just for day
- 57:54primal. No.
- 57:58And then finally sing. No.
- 58:05All right, cool. Primal.
- 58:06Primal was very close for me. Primal was very close for me.
- 58:10It was, yeah. I just couldn't squeeze it in.
- 58:14Yeah, I think went up in my ranks because it was has that
- 58:20really big ending again that becomes brooding and dramatic.
- 58:24Totally. Yeah, all.
- 58:26Right my my last two are Morning Rise and Miranda.
- 58:31Morning Rise. Oh yeah, they're both good too.
- 58:33Morning Rise. What's Miranda on?
- 58:38Just for a day, isn't it? Hang on.
- 58:41Pygmalion. There it is.
- 58:42Oh, it's on Pygmalion. Pygmalion, yeah.
- 58:45All right, we covered a lot of ground.
- 58:49Hold on, let me shift this so I can get a semi official number
- 58:54here. Boom.
- 58:57Assuming we got everything. 37 It looks like we covered.
- 59:02Yep, 37 out of the 53. We covered almost the entirety
- 59:07of everything as a live skin in the game, being the only thing
- 59:10we didn't play. Same thing for Savlaki,
- 59:13Altogether is the only one we didn't play.
- 59:16We also covered almost the entirety of the self-titled
- 59:20record, Go Get It and Falling Ashes, the only ones that did
- 59:22not come up today. So I think it's clear.
- 59:25So I had falling ashes and skin of the game with just outside.
- 59:29There were two of my in the 24. I had both of those just
- 59:33outside. Yeah, too.
- 59:35Too little too late now, friend. Yeah.
- 59:37Yeah, I know, but we could have almost had the whole album.
- 59:39But anyway. All right, so we got 8, which
- 59:42means none of us are going to win, which I'm, I'm a OK with
- 59:45that, but let's run down what we've got already.
- 59:48Allison when the sun hits * roving machine gun shanty kisses
- 59:52souvlaki space station. That's a lot harder to say this
- 59:55time around for some reason. And slow MO.
- 59:59Let's run down these threes first.
- 1:00:02I suppose we got sugar for the pill.
- 1:00:04Catch the breeze. Celia's dream 40 days Don't know
- 1:00:08why. A life.
- 1:00:12And no longer making time is the one that's kind of jumping out
- 1:00:16at you here, Adam, I'm. Just thinking about album
- 1:00:21representation, but those three albums are quite well
- 1:00:24represented at the moment. Are there 3 main albums?
- 1:00:27Yeah, 2, two and four. So OK, so I'm going to forget
- 1:00:35about an album Rep for a second. I just picked what like my gut
- 1:00:39says here and I just think it's got we got to have sugar the
- 1:00:43pill. Just love that song all.
- 1:00:46Right, Jamie, you guys were all three had sugar the pill.
- 1:00:51I was the odd man out. I mean, obviously I can be an
- 1:00:55easy push over here on unless somebody's really.
- 1:01:01If somebody's I definitely am not against Sugar for the Pill.
- 1:01:05I'm just looking at our tracks that are definitely in and we
- 1:01:10don't have any just for a Day songs.
- 1:01:13And yeah, the highest Just for a Day song was Catch the Breeze.
- 1:01:18Like it's an album that definitely is something that
- 1:01:21people would should listen to once they get into slow dive,
- 1:01:25but and so it's not like someone would miss it.
- 1:01:29This. It's actually actually, to be
- 1:01:31honest, it's probably not too hard to miss, but I think if we
- 1:01:34put catch the phrase in the list, it would.
- 1:01:38Real silly. Dream too, yeah.
- 1:01:41That's why I agree with you. We should put one of them in.
- 1:01:43Sorry, I forgot. Yeah, we should put one of them
- 1:01:45in for sure. Yeah, silly stream was not in my
- 1:01:4820. It was like my 23rd track or
- 1:01:51something. But just catch the braids with
- 1:01:56my #4 track. Overall though, I very much have
- 1:02:02think that that's the one that we should go in, but you know,
- 1:02:05happy to be told otherwise. I had both SO.
- 1:02:13Me, me too. Right.
- 1:02:15So, all right, so let's ask this question.
- 1:02:19Is it sugar for the pill and then one of these just for a day
- 1:02:23tracks? Are we in agreement, and at
- 1:02:25least that far. Sugar for the.
- 1:02:30Pill and or dagger, but it doesn't look like that's going
- 1:02:33to happen. Flat flab is good, Good Dagger
- 1:02:36is really good, but it's just sugar for the Pill is a good
- 1:02:42introductory track. And I know it's a pretty big
- 1:02:48track for them because, and I've mentioned it before the another
- 1:02:53podcast called what's it called? Song Exploiter had they used
- 1:03:02this track when they were talking about it.
- 1:03:07So, you know, it's a prominent track which I think deserves a
- 1:03:11spot in the list. All right, so let's let's get
- 1:03:15sugar for the pill in there. And so then the conversation is
- 1:03:19between catch the breeze in Celia's dream.
- 1:03:22Do you have like an you had them both as well, Adam?
- 1:03:24Do you have an inclination either way?
- 1:03:30Not a not a strong one, but I think maybe catch the breeze by
- 1:03:34by a nose maybe. OK, but they're both good.
- 1:03:38I'll be happy with either. Because looking at this, it's
- 1:03:40literally the difference is Jamie had catch the breeze, John
- 1:03:43had Celia's dream. So I I think you know how hard
- 1:03:51pressed against catch the breeze are you John I?
- 1:03:55Mean 68% like I would I would love I I I do prefer Celia's
- 1:04:02dream, but I'm not going to put up a huge think about it if they
- 1:04:07if I'm in the minority. So here's here's what I'll put
- 1:04:10the little little bit of extra weight of catch the breeze.
- 1:04:15It is one of the answers that I got.
- 1:04:17I got like, I don't know, a handful, 10 or so.
- 1:04:20Catch the breeze is one of them. Celia's dream was not so.
- 1:04:24Well, my Celia's dream people out there, I'm with you for the
- 1:04:27record. All right, so let's grab catch
- 1:04:31the breeze. No need to sweat over this
- 1:04:34because I think we've got a killer list here.
- 1:04:35So let me read this 10 down and then you know not then we'll do
- 1:04:40the sweating. All right, so we've got Allison
- 1:04:42when the sun hits * roving machine gun shanty kisses,
- 1:04:46souvaki space station slow MO sugar for the pill Catch the
- 1:04:49breeze. A lot of s s, a lot of s s that
- 1:04:53I'm saying into a microphone right now.
- 1:04:56Adam, when I read those 10 down, is there one that's kind of
- 1:04:59jumping out at at you as the one?
- 1:05:04I'm just hang on. Yeah, I've got out of my 26 of
- 1:05:08them. Start with S There you go.
- 1:05:12The one that's jumping out for me is.
- 1:05:14It's not necessarily my favorite song now because I've listened
- 1:05:18to them so much, but it was right.
- 1:05:20It was for a long time. And I'm wearing the T-shirt and
- 1:05:23that is when the sun hits. OK.
- 1:05:25I think it's the one that stands a little bit above for me.
- 1:05:32What do you think, Jamie? When the Sun hits, if I was
- 1:05:39going to say to someone one track that I think they should
- 1:05:43listen to, I wouldn't provide anything from their self-titled
- 1:05:49album. So I don't think I wouldn't
- 1:05:53provide anything from their recent album either.
- 1:05:56Everything is alive and I probably wouldn't provide
- 1:06:00anything from Just for a Day. They would definitely be a civil
- 1:06:04lucky track. And then out of the civil lucky
- 1:06:09tracks, there's three that would come to my mind as potentials,
- 1:06:13Machine Gun, Allison and When the Sun Hits.
- 1:06:16And if I'm trying to go, what has the greatest appeal to show
- 1:06:21this is slow dive. As much as I really like Machine
- 1:06:26Gun is a deep dive. You'll find it.
- 1:06:29Allison is really, really good and pretty, but if I want
- 1:06:33someone to go and understand what slate I've is, it has to be
- 1:06:37when the sun hits. It's a pretty hard hitting
- 1:06:41analysis. What do you think, John?
- 1:06:44Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, Allison would be the obvious
- 1:06:48choice, but I kind of like, you know, going with with something
- 1:06:52all different. I like when the sun hits too.
- 1:06:53I'm OK with that. All right, well, let's let's
- 1:06:56grab when the sun hits. That'll be our number one then.
- 1:06:59And I I think the point of, you know, when it came up the, you
- 1:07:06know, it's almost that same of course discussion.
- 1:07:09I love when I found an of course on accident.
- 1:07:13And so that to me is what when the sun hits is and clearly I
- 1:07:20was, I was right to have it wrong to not think it was a home
- 1:07:24run. So when the sun Hits is going to
- 1:07:27be our number one. I'll run this down one last go
- 1:07:29and we will wrap her on up. As mentioned, when the sun hits
- 1:07:34is #1 Allison star roving machine gun, Shanty kisses,
- 1:07:39Souvlaki, Space Station, Slow MO and Sugar for the pill.
- 1:07:45And last but not least, Catch the Breeze rounds out our 10.
- 1:07:49And with that, let's let When the Sun Hits, get a moment in
- 1:07:53the sun. There we go.
- 1:08:04We have done it. We have turned you into slow
- 1:08:06dime fans and you're very welcome for that.
- 1:08:08I mean, you know, I, I don't say that we did the work lately.
- 1:08:12I'm just saying we we literally just come through everything for
- 1:08:16you and made a list that all you have to do is listen to.
- 1:08:19So you're very welcome for that. I don't care if that sounds
- 1:08:22cocky because we literally just did that and you heard how we
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