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"Nukes of Hazzard." (Live from Nashville!) · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 1: What's up, Nashville? Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Josie Duffy Rice.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Jon Lovett. I'm Tommy Visor. I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 1: We are so happy to have Josie with us on
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  Speaker 1: this swing, who you know and love as a host
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  Speaker 1: of Crooked's What A Day podcast. We're also lucky to
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  Speaker 1: be joined by your next member of Congress from Nashville,
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  Speaker 1: Odessa Kelly. And a Tennessee native who also happens to
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  Speaker 1: be the former Vice President of the United States, Al.
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  Speaker 3: Gore is here. Al Gore is here.
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  Speaker 1: Al Gore is here.
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  Speaker 4: Shocking to me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the news. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump might have gotten himself into a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a jam. On Monday, two dozen FBI agents arrived at
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  Speaker 1: Mar-a-Lago with a search warrant and left with 11 sets
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  Speaker 1: of classified documents, some at the highest level. According to
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  Speaker 1: the New York Times, federal agents who executed the warrant
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  Speaker 1: did so to investigate potential crimes associated with violations of
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  Speaker 1: the Espionage Act, which outlaws the unauthorized retention of national
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  Speaker 1: security information that could harm the United States or aid
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  Speaker 1: a foreign adversary. They also went after him for a
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  Speaker 1: federal law that makes it a crime to destroy or
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  Speaker 1: conceal a document to obstruct a government investigation, and another
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  Speaker 1: statute associated with unlawful removal of government materials. Doesn't sound good.
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  Speaker 1: Does not sound good. The Washington Post has also reported
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  Speaker 1: that the agents were looking for classified materials specifically related
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  Speaker 1: to nuclear weapons, so... Sleep well tonight. Josie, thank God
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  Speaker 1: you're with us because our legal expertise comes from stray tweets.
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  Speaker 1: Is Donald Trump in trouble?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Actually not a very good lawyer, but I do know
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  Speaker 5: a lot about law enforcement and the FBI does not
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  Speaker 5: show up to your house unless they know something's in
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  Speaker 5: your house. They don't ask, they don't, they don't like
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  Speaker 5: ask questions. They don't, I already know the answer to.
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  Speaker 5: Don't lie to the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: Don't lie to them. I mean, Trump has gone through
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  Speaker 1: a variety of excuses over the last 48 hours. The
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  Speaker 1: latest is that the government could have gotten their classified
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  Speaker 1: secrets back if they had just asked.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of the magic word?
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  Speaker 1: FBI.
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  Speaker 3: FBI.
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  Speaker 1: Jessie, can you explain what we know so far about
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  Speaker 1: why the Department of Justice and the FBI felt the
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  Speaker 1: need to show up with a warrant and why Attorney
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  Speaker 1: General Merrick Garland then called for that warrant to be
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  Speaker 1: made public?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was kind of amazing because Merrick Garland was like,
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  Speaker 5: we actually did ask. We tried some things and they
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  Speaker 5: didn't work, which is why we showed up. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the idea of accidentally having classified documents and then just...
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  Speaker 5: forgetting to turn them over and someone being like, can
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  Speaker 5: we have those back?
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  Speaker 3: Forgetting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, forgetting.
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  Speaker 6: Just doesn't add up.
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  Speaker 7: You know?
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  Speaker 4: No, it does not add up.
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  Speaker 8: I think what happened is William Barr dressed up as
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  Speaker 8: a sweet old lady and gave Merrick Garland an apple,
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  Speaker 8: which he took a bite of, fell asleep. And it
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  Speaker 8: wasn't until Liz Cheney kissed Merrick Garland on the lips
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  Speaker 8: that he woke up. And everything has played out since.
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  Speaker 1: He did say at the press conference that they tried, quote,
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  Speaker 1: less intrusive methods. So we don't know exactly what those were.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose that's just asking politely for the classified info back. Tommy,
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  Speaker 1: when you were spokesman for the White House National Security Council,
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  Speaker 1: you had access to plenty of classified information. So I
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  Speaker 1: guess my question is, how many nuclear secrets do you
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  Speaker 1: still have? And where are they? No, I took home
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  Speaker 1: an actual nuke. You get the whole nuke. It's a co-wreck.
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  Speaker 1: Can you help people understand why the government takes the
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  Speaker 1: possession of classified information so seriously? Sure.
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  Speaker 9: So the reason the government classifies it, so the reason
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  Speaker 9: you deem something to be top secret is because the
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  Speaker 9: government believes that will cause, I wrote it down, exceptionally
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  Speaker 9: grave damage to the national security. That's essentially the reason
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  Speaker 9: something becomes top secret As a general matter, I think
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  Speaker 9: that the government classifies too many things or overclassifies information.
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  Speaker 9: I saw a lot of State Department cables in my day.
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  Speaker 9: There were news reports from abroad that got sent back
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  Speaker 9: that were marked secret for some reason. But based on
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  Speaker 9: the reports and the warrant we've seen so far, the
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  Speaker 9: stuff they were looking for, the FBI was looking for
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  Speaker 9: at Trump's house is very, very sensitive stuff. The warrant
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  Speaker 9: referenced miscellaneous top secret information It referenced miscellaneous TSSCI documents,
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  Speaker 9: and that means top secret sensitive compartmented information. Other news
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  Speaker 9: reports said that there was signals intelligence, which means stuff
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  Speaker 9: that the NSA intercepted between, I don't know, the Pakistani
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  Speaker 9: military talking to themselves or intercepted emails. One of the
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  Speaker 9: news reports mentioned special access programs, which are programs or
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  Speaker 9: activities that are so sensitive that You can't just get
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  Speaker 9: access to them because you have a clearance. You have
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  Speaker 9: to get read into whatever it is. So it could
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  Speaker 9: be like a CIA covert action program. It could be
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  Speaker 9: a special military technology or a new weapons system. The times,
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  Speaker 9: the very few times I got read into those things
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  Speaker 9: at the White House, I literally had to go over
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  Speaker 9: to some intel person's office, sign a document saying that
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  Speaker 9: I would not talk about it. And then when I left,
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  Speaker 9: sign out of the compartment saying that I would continue
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  Speaker 9: to not talk about it because I would go to jail.
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  Speaker 3: Again, double jail, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: Can you tell us now? No, I can't.
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  Speaker 4: And then.
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  Speaker 1: Try it.
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  Speaker 10: A hint?
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  Speaker 6: Can we get a hint?
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  Speaker 1: Tell you guys after. And then... Could we get a
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  Speaker 1: water cold? Another....
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  Speaker 6: You referenced this at the top.
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  Speaker 9: Apparently there were documents relating to our nuclear weapons systems,
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  Speaker 9: and I probably don't have to explain to anyone why
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  Speaker 9: that would be bad to have at your house.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 3: At your beach house.
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  Speaker 1: In your beach house.
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  Speaker 9: And that was particularly interesting, though, because the current sort
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  Speaker 9: of Trump sycophant Defense is that he's the president, he
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  Speaker 9: can declassify whatever he wants, and to some extent that's true,
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  Speaker 9: but it's actually not true with information relating to the
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  Speaker 9: nuclear weapons program that's classified under a different statute, and
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  Speaker 9: he can't just unilaterally do that.
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  Speaker 6: So, uh-oh, if that's there, you're in trouble.
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  Speaker 9: So, long story short, we don't know if the FBI
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  Speaker 9: will find any of this stuff, and we should probably
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  Speaker 9: wait to see. We may never not know, frankly, because
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  Speaker 9: they're not going to say, hey, the following classified information
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  Speaker 9: was found in his basement, because that would defeat the
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  Speaker 9: purpose of Protecting said information. But you can understand why
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  Speaker 9: they would be nervous about it sitting around. But in Mar-a-Lago,
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  Speaker 9: in 2019, a Chinese national was arrested breaking into Mar-a-Lago,
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  Speaker 9: trying to sneak into the pool with nine thumb drives,
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  Speaker 9: four cell phone SIM cards, and a laptop. It's a
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  Speaker 9: counterintelligence nightmare at that point.
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  Speaker 3: Or just a very specific kind of vacation.
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  Speaker 1: LAUGHTER But we know they left with at least one
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  Speaker 1: set of documents that were TSSEI because they signed off
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  Speaker 1: on the warrant. So we know they have some. We
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  Speaker 1: know that there was the highest classified level documents in
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  Speaker 1: Mar-a-Lago and that they had a warrant for that, they
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  Speaker 1: found them, and they hauled them out.
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  Speaker 6: That's what they want you to believe, John.
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  Speaker 10: But we also know that Merrick Garland is an exceedingly
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  Speaker 10: cautious human being, to say the least.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact.
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  Speaker 1: Some people called him a ponderous judge. Not on this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: No one on this stage.
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  Speaker 1: We would never have.
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  Speaker 10: This stage has always been pro-Merrick Garland, pro-Joe Manchin. I
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  Speaker 10: don't want to hear anything else about it.
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  Speaker 1: These have been our heroes the entire time.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people doubted us, but we said.
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  Speaker 1: We told you.
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  Speaker 3: Stick with us. Stick with Merrick Garland.
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  Speaker 1: Stick with Merrick Garland, Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema. Biden from
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  Speaker 1: day one.
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  Speaker 3: Biden from day fucking one.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: When a lot of people were going all kinds of different,
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  Speaker 8: Elizabeth Warren.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: But we said no. It's Biden or bus. You'll see. Anyway. Hey, question.
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  Speaker 3: Did I get too drunk for this? Question. It's fine.
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  Speaker 3: It's fine. It's fine. Look, there are some people saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton.
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  Speaker 8: Did the same thing and they didn't prosecute her. And
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  Speaker 8: at some point, we can talk about a prisoner swap, right?
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  Speaker 3: It played how we thought. Cut it from the pod.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, leave it in.
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  Speaker 3: He was supposed to ask Al Gore about that proposal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just be thankful.
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  Speaker 3: Dan, you were saying?
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  Speaker 1: Dan, you had a point.
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  Speaker 10: Anywho, I don't know where I was, but I think
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  Speaker 10: my point being that they would, if this was just
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  Speaker 10: run-of-the-mill stuff that was over-classified, as Tommy rightly said so
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  Speaker 10: much stuff is, They're not rating Mar-a-Lago for that. They
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  Speaker 10: obviously have a, there was an urgency to this, a
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  Speaker 10: sensitivity about the information. I think we can intuit from
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  Speaker 10: the fact that they took what is a very aggressive
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  Speaker 10: step for an agency that is, from an attorney general,
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  Speaker 10: is incredibly cautious.
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  Speaker 1: I would also venture to say that Trump's various excuses,
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  Speaker 1: he may have contradicted himself once or twice. First, he
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  Speaker 1: said that it was a hoax. in that the FBI
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  Speaker 1: planted the evidence, and then he said that the evidence
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  Speaker 1: was declassified by him that was then planted. So it
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  Speaker 1: seems like it's difficult for him to declassify the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that was there that was then planted by the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: That feels difficult to reconcile.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing to find.
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  Speaker 8: Whatever they found was planted, and that planted evidence is
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  Speaker 8: fine because I declassified it.
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  Speaker 4: That works.
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  Speaker 3: Seems to hold up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that anyone is surprised that
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  Speaker 1: Trump hasn't taken this well. But also just about every
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  Speaker 1: Republican politician in the country has chosen to blindly support him.
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  Speaker 1: They have called for investigations. They have called for impeaching
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  Speaker 1: Merrick Garland, for defunding the FBI. Oh, interesting.
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  Speaker 5: It really is the worst person you know made a
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  Speaker 5: good point meme.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, 100%.
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  Speaker 2: It's really happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know those liberals at the FBI, famously so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the famously woke FBI.
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  Speaker 9: Running around shouting their pronouns at people in the plastic FBI.
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  Speaker 3: The FBI. I mean, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 8: You step back and look at what conservative media is
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  Speaker 8: trying to wrap. The number of institutions in America that
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  Speaker 8: the right-wing media has tried to turn their fucking addled
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  Speaker 8: baby boomer audience against. It's like, you shouldn't, no football
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  Speaker 8: for you, no baseball for you, the FBI's too woke now. Like,
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  Speaker 8: these people, like, where are they supposed to go? They
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  Speaker 8: can't even go to Cracker Barrel anymore.
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  Speaker 10: They have to sit home, watch Tucker Carlson, and buy gold.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Dan, you wrote this week in the message box that
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  Speaker 1: maybe the Republican reaction wasn't the shrewdest move. And to
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  Speaker 1: your credit, you wrote this before the events unfolded of
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  Speaker 1: the last 24 hours when we found out that actually, yes,
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  Speaker 1: he did have the highly classified documents in Mar-a-Lago.
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  Speaker 10: Look, I wish we lived in a country where politicians
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  Speaker 10: blindly standing by a deeply dangerous man involved in multiple
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  Speaker 10: criminal investigations... was on its face bad politics, but we don't.
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  Speaker 10: That is not the country we live in. The people
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  Speaker 10: who really face political accountability in the Republican Party are
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  Speaker 10: not the ones who stick with Trump. It's the ones
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  Speaker 10: who stand up to him, right? Whether it's Liz Cheney
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  Speaker 10: or Adam Kinzinger or so many more. I mean, the
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  Speaker 10: fact that we get cheers for a Cheney. At a
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  Speaker 10: show in which Al Gore is appearing, people.
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  Speaker 4: That's tough. That's tough.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think the.
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  Speaker 10: Way in which the Republicans have stuck with Trump is
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  Speaker 10: making a huge, huge mistake. Because it's not that they're
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  Speaker 10: defending him, because everyone expects that. It's that they are
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  Speaker 10: pledging to use the power they seek in this election to...
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  Speaker 10: investigate the FBI, defund the FBI, impeach Garland, impeach Christopher Wray,
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  Speaker 10: defend Trump. And I think that gives Democrats an opportunity
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  Speaker 10: to say, you keep us in the majority.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to fight for you. We're going to cut costs.
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  Speaker 10: We're going to raise wages. We're going to make your
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  Speaker 10: health care more affordable. We're going to fight for you.
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  Speaker 10: And Republicans are going to fight for Donald Trump and
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  Speaker 10: their political allies. And that's always the most important issue
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  Speaker 10: in any campaign is, who do the voters think is
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  Speaker 10: going to fight for them? And the Republicans have given
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  Speaker 10: us an opening, and we just have to take it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fighting for Donald Trump's right to keep nuclear
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  Speaker 1: secrets and do whatever he pleases with them.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just say a lot of these, you know,
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  Speaker 8: they all got out there pretty early being like, these
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  Speaker 8: people don't have the goods, you know? There's no goods.
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  Speaker 8: And then we found out there were nuclear secrets.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I say?
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  Speaker 8: Some of these Republican takes had a pretty short half-life.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Nashville!
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  Speaker 3: Come back for the 11 o'clock show.
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  Speaker 1: I thought one of the worst, the ranking member of
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  Speaker 1: the House Intel Committee, Republican Mike Turner, got up and
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  Speaker 1: said at a press conference today, there are a number
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  Speaker 1: of things that are classified that fall under the umbrella
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  Speaker 1: of nuclear weapons, but that are not necessarily things that
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  Speaker 1: are truly classified. Many of them you can find on
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  Speaker 1: your own phone. Tommy, is that true? I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what that guy is talking about. Like, you're the ranking
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  Speaker 1: member of the Intel Committee.
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  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to do this.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's also the case, though, that there's, like.
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  Speaker 9: When WikiLeaks or Edward Snowden puts a million documents into
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  Speaker 9: the public record and all these secrets are disclosed, that
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  Speaker 9: doesn't mean you can then talk about it. It doesn't
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  Speaker 9: mean they're declassified and that you can just go talk
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  Speaker 9: about it. In fact, people working at the government were
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  Speaker 9: not allowed to access the WikiLeaks or Snowden websites to
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  Speaker 9: learn what was out there because it was seen as potentially...
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  Speaker 9: accessing classified information illegally. So, no, that's the dumbest thing
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  Speaker 9: I've ever heard, is where it should have started.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I got one that, I go on to beat that.
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  Speaker 1: We could do a whole take appreciator about some of
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  Speaker 1: the takes that have been flying over the last 48 hours.
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  Speaker 3: Takes have been out of control.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm going to, love it, I'm going to read
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  Speaker 1: you the title of the latest New York Times column
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  Speaker 1: by one Mr. David Brooks, and I'd like you to respond.
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  Speaker 1: The headline is, did the FBI just re-elect Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 8: All right, I want to, so I do think there's
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  Speaker 8: like a obviously that's like the stupidest fucking shit I've
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  Speaker 8: ever heard and like and like what a like he
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  Speaker 8: had no information had no idea it was before we
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  Speaker 8: learned everything that we learned in the last 24 hours
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  Speaker 8: still out with the best time to do still got
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  Speaker 8: to get out there with that just a piping hot
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  Speaker 8: just a fucking radioactive ironically.
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  Speaker 3: Take not letting that go huh but but like I
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  Speaker 3: do think that.
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  Speaker 8: There's this sort of pernicious idea that has like That's
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  Speaker 8: what that column was about. That's what James Comey did
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  Speaker 8: all those years ago. That's like infused a lot of
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  Speaker 8: the response to Trump, which is that it's more important
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  Speaker 8: to seem legitimate than be legitimate. What David Brooks's column
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  Speaker 8: argues is, sure, Trump may have committed serious crimes, but
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  Speaker 8: prosecuting those crimes would excite a dangerous, radicalized Republican base
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  Speaker 8: and therefore make it more likely he's reelected.
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  Speaker 3: Therefore, we're powerless now.
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  Speaker 8: To punish those crimes as if legitimacy flows from people
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  Speaker 8: who believe lies and would do violence as opposed to
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  Speaker 8: the actual work and substance of what our government does
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  Speaker 8: in response to people who break the law.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it is.
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  Speaker 8: Stupid, it's stupid in the short term because it doesn't work.
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  Speaker 8: No one has been rewarded more thoroughly than Donald Trump
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  Speaker 8: for people who cared more about seeming legitimate than being legitimate.
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  Speaker 8: But it also gives a kind of quiet, like a
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  Speaker 8: pocket veto of the rule of law to right-wing groups
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  Speaker 8: and people who would do violence. Right-wing violence, the threat
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  Speaker 8: of it is already warping our politics. Liz Cheney can't
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  Speaker 8: do events in Wyoming. There are threats against people like
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  Speaker 8: Raphael Warnock. Somebody died attacking the FBI and proclaimed what
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  Speaker 8: they were doing on Truth Social in response to this
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  Speaker 8: FBI raid and the ways in which Donald Trump has
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  Speaker 8: riled people up.
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  Speaker 3: No, we can't give a veto to violent groups.
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  Speaker 8: And in the long term, what's the answer? Do you
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  Speaker 8: think this is temporary? The answer is we have to
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  Speaker 8: actually do what we think is right and accept that
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  Speaker 8: there's going to be a subset of our population who
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  Speaker 8: has lied to and may even threaten us, but we
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  Speaker 8: can't cower to those threats.
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  Speaker 3: We just can't. We have to, the only way out.
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  Speaker 3: It's the only way out.
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  Speaker 1: Josie, what do you think about that? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as Levin mentioned, it was a January 6th rioter, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: who tried to storm the FBI field office in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: on yesterday. Do you think President Biden and Democratic politicians
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: should be more vocal in calling out Republicans and right-wing
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: media for some of the dangerous rhetoric we've been hearing
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: over the last couple days? Because it is getting a little,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Truth Social, the right-wing militias, they're all getting a little
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: riled up. Truth Social is getting a little riled up,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: believe it or not.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, You think about even the feedback to
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: the defund the FBI. The Democrats are being quieter about
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: that than they were about defund the police two years ago.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: And it just is a reminder that when we say
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: the rule of law, we actually only apply that to
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: people we deem dangerous, but that we actually don't think
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: are existential dangers. This is like an example of what
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: happens when People are trying to destroy the actual fabric,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: fundamental values of a country. What is our response going
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: to be? And that really determines what the future looks
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: like here. If we're not willing to speak up and
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: hold those people accountable, I mean, far be it from
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: me to call for punishment of anybody. That's not my vibe,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: but Donald Trump has made me support the FBI this week, so.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: It's like, It's been weird, you know?
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Know weird times I don't like it I'm not.
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: Into it yeah I mean the stuff that's getting said
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: on right wing spaces and media is very scary and
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: you know to sort of prepare myself for this section
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: of the conversation I reconnected with an old friend oh
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: no Steve Bannon um What? I downloaded two episodes of
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: this podcast.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: You listened to all of it?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Did you listen to them all the way through?
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: All the way through twice. One of them actually twice.
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: And I just wanted to play you guys a quick clip.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: You're a lawless scumbag.
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: Your department's a bunch of lawless scumbags.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: The FBI's a bunch of lawless scumbags. Hey, suck on that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: You don't like it? You're a lawless scumbag. Back to blue.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: What a.
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: I mean, you can't, look, you're talking about Merrick Garland, obviously.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: How did he know my kink?
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: You can't argue with that logic.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry I said that.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: What a lovely man.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: I have actually said those words about the FBI before, too,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: but not in this context.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: He does this shit for four hours a day.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: No, I wanted to play that because it gets worse
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: from there. So Bannon had on Seb Gorka, who used
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: to work at.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: The White House.
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: He's a kind of weird Hungarian fascist.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: They both floated a theory that the Biden.
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: Administration is trying to assassinate Trump. And then Gorka said
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: the FBI brought in so many people and surveillance equipment
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: because they are setting up some sort of, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: ongoing surveillance equipment themselves. And then they both called the
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: FBI the Gestapo. So it's hard to back a law
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: enforcement when you're calling them Nazis in my book.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: And, you know, I think the.
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: Problem here is like Trump has created a social media
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: site that's become kind of a domestic terrorist safe space.
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: And this guy who targeted the Cincinnati FBI office shot
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: it up, escaped, was in the middle of a shootout
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: essentially with the cops and paused to post on Truth Social.
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: So I want to see the Democratic Party stand up
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: and talk about this and call out what is happening,
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: which is like some really dangerous rhetoric. but I do
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: think that at the end of the day, the only
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: people that these people are going to hear are Republicans
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: and law enforcement when they come to their house to
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: arrest them.
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: I think this whole thing brings to bear the lie
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: at the heart of the Republican Party. Because it's all
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: couched in anti-government rhetoric, deep state, Gestapo, FBI. But it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: not the size of government they care about. It's who
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: government is holding accountable, right? Because in their view, because
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: this is the same Republican Party who wants to increase
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: spending for defense, increase spending for the police, increase spending
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: for the INS, because as long as the government is
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: serving as a bulwark against a changing America, it can
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: be as big as they want it to be. And
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: once it goes and holds their leader down in his
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: rich estate accountable, they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: That's not who you're supposed to go after. That's not
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: why we pay our tax dollars. And that is the
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: core of this Republican Party.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, everyone's pointing out the hypocrisy. They don't care
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that they're hypocritical. There's no ideology driving this party anymore.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: It's a cult of personality. Trump gets to do whatever
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: he wants to do. If he runs for re-election and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: he loses, he gets to overturn the election. If you
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: try to hold him accountable for that... by uh prosecuting
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: him then that's wrong too you can't do that there's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: there's there's no outcome that's acceptable except trump being installed
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: as the president united states for as long as he
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: wants that's it that's the only outcome that's acceptable.
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: See i think that is the ideology right is that
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: people like trump get to do what they want and
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: others don't and once the rules apply to them that's
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: where the ideology kicks in yeah it's uh uh trump
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: can do whatever he wants His friends can do almost
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: whatever they want, but he doesn't really care that much,
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: as long as it doesn't affect him. He'd like to
• 23:58
  Speaker 10: punish his enemies, that's fun, and if someone dies for him,
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: he gets a boner.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: What?
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: What?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. We'll be back with more news. And we're back.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Now it's time for OK Stop. It's OK Stop o'clock.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: You know how it works. I play a clip.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: I demand the clip stops. We go in hard until
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: I start the clip again. And what clip are we
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: OKing and stopping today? Why, it's an OK Stop supercut
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: of conservatives complete and total meltdown. or the FBI's fuckboat
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: tour of Mar-a-Lago. There are too many for us to
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: pick just one. Up first, we've got Dana Perino speaking
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: reality into existence.
• 25:07
  Speaker 11: I don't understand how a document can be this critical.
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: Unless it has, you want the picture, you're saying if
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: it has a picture of Putin and Trump making out?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 25:18
  Speaker 11: Short of the nuclear codes being written on these documents
• 25:21
  Speaker 11: in a locked behind closed doors, I just really don't
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: understand how a document could warrant this kind of warrant.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, stop.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Dana's like, what's next?
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: They exhume Ivana's coffin because he's buried the pee tape
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: with her, and then we finally see that pee tape
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: is real? And then Brian Kilmeade has to go on
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: Fox & Friends to explain that despite what the woke
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: mob tells you, piss play can.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Be part of a healthy relationship?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: It is wild that Dana Perino worked in the White House.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, how do you say that
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you're a White House press secretary? You can't understand that
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: there may be some highly classified information? Of course she knows.
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: She's like, he's got two-step verification on the nuclear codes.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: This is going to be fine.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: That's why there is two-step verification for exactly this kind
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: of situation.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: It's so risky to make up a hypothetical situation.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: For the Trump administration.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: Because it's going to happen. You can't out-dumb him.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: He's going to do it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: It's also the first rule of being a White House
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: press secretary is you don't answer a hypothetical question.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Let alone invent them.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: What could it be?
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: He husbanded away some secret documents to give to the
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: Saudis at a golf tournament he hosted?
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Come on.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: You sound crazy. What could it be? Jared is the
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: bag man?
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: Come on.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: He liked to brag by showing Eastern European businessmen who
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: had cameras in their hats interesting things he saw about
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: Macron in the White House?
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: That's insane.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Cameras in their.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Hats.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Let's roll the clip. This stuff wasn't even documents. It
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: was like golf balls and oval office raincoats. You know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Trump's a memento guy.
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: You've seen inside his office, there's a lot of clutter.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Memorabilia.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, stop. What the fuck is an oval office raincoat?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: That's not a thing. That's not a thing. There's no
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: oval office raincoats.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Oval office raincoats.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, can I get some M & Ms and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: an oval office raincoat before I leave?
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, these liberals want to criminalize scrapbooking now? What are
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: we talking about? Look, Trump is sentimental. He saves things. Keepsakes.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: You've seen his golf course. He keeps his dead ex-wife there.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I like that you made that joke a second time.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Twice. That's twice.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: That's two.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: The guy, he's a sweetheart. Let's roll it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 12: The FBI is blatantly targeting our fellow Americans for their
• 27:57
  Speaker 12: political beliefs. The Bureau's reputation has been shattered. If you
• 28:01
  Speaker 12: listen to my radio show, watch this show, you know
• 28:03
  Speaker 12: my love of law enforcement. It has now pretty much
• 28:06
  Speaker 12: been utterly destroyed.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, stop.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: This is the best thing I've ever seen.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: Ever.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: This is the closest he's.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: Ever been to feeling black in his entire life. Just crazy.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: And what a fragile love it was. It's so funny.
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: Trump was, I mean, look, Sean does have a point.
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: Trump was targeted for his beliefs. His beliefs that he
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: could show visiting businessmen facts he learned about Macron.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Sex facts.
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: He wanted to show people who were visiting sex facts
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: about Macron.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: And he was going to do it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: The French president. Don't forget the nuclear secrets.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: And the nuclear secrets.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Anyone else? Roll them.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Let's keep rolling.
• 28:58
  Speaker 13: Is it your understanding that there were not documents related
• 29:02
  Speaker 13: to our nuclear capabilities or nuclear issues that had national
• 29:06
  Speaker 13: security implications in the president's possession when the agents showed
• 29:10
  Speaker 13: up at Mar-a-Lago?
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: That's correct.
• 29:13
  Speaker 13: I don't believe they were. And if they thought they were... Well,
• 29:15
  Speaker 13: do you know for a fact? Do you know for
• 29:18
  Speaker 13: a fact they were? Have you spoken to the president
• 29:20
  Speaker 13: about it? I have not specifically spoken to the president
• 29:24
  Speaker 13: about what nuclear materials may or may not have been
• 29:28
  Speaker 13: in there.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I do not believe there were any in there.
• 29:30
  Speaker 13: The legal team had done a very thorough search.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, stop.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Going to want to check with the boss on that
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: one before you go on TV.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: You don't, look, you don't.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: You don't go on the lara ingram show to know
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: things for a fact that's not why we're here you
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: don't go to ihop to order spaghetti.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I said I was a bad lawyer at the beginning
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: of the show.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: This is a worse lawyer.
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: This is why you don't hire your lawyer off of
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: a right-wing cable TV show.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: She was working at OAN, I think, like six weeks ago.
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: It is amusing that you can just... Laura Ingraham's discomfort
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: with what is happening is palpable.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: That was her first follow-up question in like six years.
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: She is so upset about this that she became a
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: journalist for 15 seconds.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: That's how you know it's serious. That's how you know.
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: Laura Ingraham's like, hey, you fucking asshole. I know you
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: come from OAN. This is Fox News, bitch. We do
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: this right. You're going to come on Fox News and
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: fuck this up? We built an empire by lying. You're
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: going to come on here and you're going to lie badly?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I just look, I look like taking her at her word.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: The legal team did a very thorough search. Trump's legal team. Oh, oh,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: they did a thorough search for the nuclear materials at Mar-a-Lago.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Fucking Rudy Giuliani, have you seen that legal team?
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just Sepp Gorka walking around with a Geiger counter.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: Rudy Giuliani asked the bartender 1,000 times in a row
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: for five days.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Looked everywhere we couldn't find anything we're fine.
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah all we had all we saw was piles and
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: piles of expired shrimp that says sell today push the shrimp.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: And that's okay stop oh that was a good one
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: that was one of the better ones oh all right
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: time for some more news um So with all the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: usual caveats about us being out of the prediction business,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I do have to report tonight that the evidence is
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: mounting that with just under three months left until the midterms,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the political environment is shifting in favor of the Democrats.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. It's not just the polls, though the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: 538 average now has Democrats with just a slight lead
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: for the first time all year But it's also the
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: actual election results from the Kansas ballot initiative on abortion.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: As well as two recent special elections in Nebraska and
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: just this week in Minnesota where Democratic congressional candidates actually
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: did better than Joe Biden's 2020 results by four to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: five points in each race. Dan, I was shocked. Shocked.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: to see that you, of all people, wrote a piece
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: this week, again, in the message box, that was titled,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Why Dems Could Win This Fall. What is with the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: optimism from you, of all people?
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: What are you doing, Dan?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: What is wrong with you?
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: I have to be honest that when my wife, Hallie,
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: read it, she asked me if I was having a
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: midlife crisis. Wow.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: So, look.
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: It does not come natural, I don't feel great about it,
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: but look, I'm a data guy, I gotta follow the data,
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: and here's where it goes. Look, in all seriousness, the
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: hardest question to answer over the last year has been,
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: can Democrats win? Because all the data said, up until
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: a month or so ago, that we were gonna get
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: our ass kicked. Inflation was high, Biden's approval ratings were low,
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: the country was massively dissatisfied with what was happening, Republicans
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: were fired up, independents were angry, and Democrats were disillusioned.
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: And that's all changed starting on the day the Supreme
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: Court overturned Roe v.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Wade.
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: When you combine that with the January 6th hearings and
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: the political conversation has begun to focus on the dangerous
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: authoritarian extremism Republicans, and then you follow that up with
• 33:55
  Speaker 10: Democrats delivering on their campaign promises, passing a guns bill,
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: the Inflation Act, a climate bill, healthcare, doing those things,
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: There is no question the environment has shifted. This is
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: not a prediction. It's not an admonition against bedwetting. It's
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: not telling you what's going to happen. It's saying that
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: right now, as we sit here today, Democrats have a
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: legitimate fighting chance to not just keep but expand our majorities.
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: And the ability to make that case and even, I
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: will say, delve into optimism is important because we win
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: this election by just, all we have to do is
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: reconstitute the coalition that took.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: The House, the Senate, and the White House over the
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: last four years.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: And you cannot get people to sign up for a
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: suicide mission. So if we have a case to make
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: that we can win, and we can make that case credibly,
• 34:39
  Speaker 10: we should make it proudly.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Josie, I think there was like a real question after
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the Dobbs ruling as to whether it would cause pro-choice
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: voters to feel hopeless or to feel energized. What do
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you think, and what should Democrat candidates do to make
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: sure it's the latter, that they're energized?
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was worried because after a whole women's health
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: in Texas, it didn't look like that was shifting a
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: lot of public opinion. But look, Kansas, I think so
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: goes Kansas, so goes the nation. Isn't that the way?
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. No, I like that.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, women.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: There are more women in this country than there are men.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: I'm just letting you guys know. And we vote more
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: than any other demographic, right?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Women show up to the polls.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: When you take.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: You know, when you take rights away from people, they
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: fight back. And that's what I hope we're going to
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: see at the polls. I mean, the majority of this
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: country supports a woman's right to choose.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And I hope we'll see that in the polls.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: That's such a good point because usually the dynamic in
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the midterm is there's a party in power, it does
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff, and then there's a backlash to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: what the party in power does. This is an interesting situation,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a different situation, in that even though the Democrats are
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: in power, the Supreme Court has now taken a bunch
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of action that is taking rights away from people. not
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: just the Supreme Court, but also very Republican state legislatures
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: all over the country. And so now, instead of just
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: there being a backlash to the party in power, there's
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: also a backlash to the party that's not in power
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: because they are running the Supreme Court and state legislatures
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: all over the country, which is one reason that this
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: could be different.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: And if we don't.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: See it in the midterms, we will see it in
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: the future because women are going, they're dying. This is
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: going to change people's lives. It is going to radicalize
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: people when they see what a world looks like without
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: bodily autonomy.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: And so, you know, it's a long game maybe. Hopefully
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: we see it in November, but even then, if we don't,
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's the end of the fight.
• 36:52
  Speaker 10: John, your point about the policy backlash is really important
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: because where you normally see that is with independents. And
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: when Obama lost the House in 2010, the Affordable Care
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: Act and the stimulus bill were both underwater. When Trump
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: lost the House in 2018, the tax bill was underwater,
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: driven by independents. What is really interesting here is that
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: all the things that Biden has done from the American
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: Rescue Plan to the Guns Bill to the Inflation Reduction Act,
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: are incredibly popular. It's very rare to have big pieces
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: of legislation with 60% approval on all of his due.
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: But the most interesting thing, I think, about the Kansas
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: race that I think should really scare Republicans the most
• 37:31
  Speaker 10: is that on the day of the Kansas referendum, 100,000
• 37:34
  Speaker 10: independents turned out to vote in there.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: And they could not vote in the primary.
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: Kansas has a closed primary, so they cannot vote for
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: the Democratic or Republican nominees for governor or anything else.
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: They turned out only to vote on this referendum.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Love it. It's a testament to how wild the last
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: 48 hours of news has been. The House also passed
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the Inflation Reduction Act today. We just got to that now.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden's about to sign it into law. There's also
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: been a flurry of legislative activity and executive action over
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the last month or so. What parts of that should
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Democrats emphasize on the trail and how? Is this the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: biggest climate bill in history or is it about bringing
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: down costs for people? Are we leading with semiconductors in
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Finland joining NATO? Tommy got to see that. I got Tommy.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I got the worldos. Talk to me.
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: The whole point of seeking to retain power is that
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: the work isn't finished.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: But in that case, the work is finished.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: You guys get that?
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: Which part is finished?
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: The NATO part? Finish.
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: Finish.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, fuck.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Finland.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: I want everyone here to take a moment and appreciate
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: some history. That's the hardest I've ever bombed at a
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: Pod Save America show.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Beg to differ.
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: I've never felt so disconnected from you in five years
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: of doing this show.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I looked out into the crowd pleading with anyone. Did
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I miss something? Can someone help me? And I got nothing.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: I think Dan hit the nail on the head.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: What'd you say?
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Keep going. Go, get me out.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Tommy, the White House has been touted. falling gas prices.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: And most recently, July's inflation reading, which the president pointed
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: out at a press conference, was 0%. Do you think
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that's a good idea? Should Democrats incorporate improving economic indicators
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: in their messaging? What do you think?
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: If you had asked me this, well, you guys remember
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: in 2009... when we were in the White House, when
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: the Recovery Act had passed, but things were very, very
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: slowly improving.
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: We were in this tortured position of not wanting to.
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: Overstate the speed of the recovery because people might not
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: feel it in their own lives and the press will
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: fact check you.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: And we just ended up in this rhetorical straitjacket.
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: And then we're like, you couldn't really sell it, but
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: you wanted to, but you couldn't do it. And then
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: Trump came along And every jobs number was the best
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: jobs number in history. And every day in the stock
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: market was a record. And like he was PT Barnum, right?
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: It was like priced in. He never got called out
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: when he was wrong. And I don't think Joe Biden
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: can fully adopt that strategy, but I do think we
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: can learn from it and understand that you do have to,
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: I think, sell success and sell your accomplishments a little
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: bit harder and a little bit more often. I think
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: it has to be we did all these things that
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: are going well, but the work isn't done. I'm still
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: fighting for you. But I do think you should own
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: the things that are going well and talk about them
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: more often. And yes, the New York Times will undoubtedly
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: write a piece about how it's risky to talk about
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: falling gas prices because they could go up again. And
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: the reason I know that is because they already wrote
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: that fucking article and I almost lost my mind.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: But who cares? Blow past that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 9: I do think the key thing is you can't, sell
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: that message by doing Rose Garden statements and going to
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: the White House briefing room. Like, you have to be
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: on TikTok and, like, places where people who aren't news
• 41:20
  Speaker 9: consumers actually are finding news.
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: You've got to sell that message every single day on
• 41:26
  Speaker 10: Podsafe America.
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: It's also just sort of, like, part of the reason
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: it's so important is it's, like, what do you want
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: the story to be? Do you want the story to
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: be that gas prices are high or that gas prices
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: are dropping? And I just think we have to, like,
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: take credit.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Own it. I think you have to at least show,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think what you said, Tommy, like, you
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: have to show that you are fighting to improve and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: to improve people's situation and to prove the economy. And
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: it's long, hard work, but you're making progress. And by
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: the way, look what these assholes are going to do.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: They're going to take us right back. They just voted
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: against all of these measures.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Which assholes?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Those guys? Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm pointing to someone over
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: there that are going to lower costs.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: That fucking guy.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: What'd he do? He seems cool. Yeah, he was fine,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I think. So you want to be a cheerleader. I
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: think you want to sell optimism, especially because we need
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: people to get involved in the midterms, which brings me
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: to my plug for Vote Save America. Have we all
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: signed up for midterm madness? We should see more hands here.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: All you have to do is you go to votesaveamerica.com,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you go to midterm madness, you pick a region, and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: we'll give you... Midwest.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: Midwest.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Team West. I know we're not in the West. Midwest.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: We'll give you plenty of stuff to do. We'll give
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: you volunteer opportunities, calls to make, text banking, all kinds
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: of stuff. We need people's help. Again, like Dan said,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: if we reassemble the coalition that beat Trump in 2020,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: we will win the midterms in 2022. So sign up
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: for Vote Save America. And speaking of activism, so at
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: each of our live shows over the last couple of months,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: we've also been spotlighting local organizations and that are making
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a difference in their communities. And tonight we want to
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: recognize the Equity Alliance, which has been working since 2016
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to help black Tennesseans take action in local government and
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: challenge systemic inequities. Please welcome their co-founder, Tequila Johnson.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Hello, what's up, Nashville? Hey, y'all. How's everybody doing?
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Man, y'all got me fired up. This is exciting. Yeah, yeah,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so as he said, I don't want to assume
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: that everyone in here knows who I am. I love
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: you too, baby. Yeah, that's right. I'm Tequila Johnson. Yes,
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: it's pronounced like the liquor, but a little bit stronger.
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: A little bit more intoxicating, you know. And I'm co-founder
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: and co-executive director of the Equity Alliance. The Equity Alliance
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: is a statewide organization. We build unapologetic black political and
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: economic power.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Somebody say power. All right. Now, I need y'all to
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: help me with this pitch. We're in the Ryman, a.k.a.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: the church.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: And we in the South, so we're going to do
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: this real Black Baptist church style, okay?
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to do this by myself.
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to save democracy by myself, and I'm
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: not going to give this pitch by myself, all right?
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Can y'all say amen? All right, all right.
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: So, yes, you guys know of all the work that
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: we've done. If you don't, please, please get engaged. One
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: of the things that we're most known for is in 2018,
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: we registered 100,000 black and brown people to vote. And
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: in a state like Tennessee, when you do something like that, right? Tennessee,
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: founding state of the KKK, the state that claimed the
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: life of Dr.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Martin Luther King Jr.
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: When you register, when you dare to register black and
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: brown people to vote, of course our racist Republican legislators
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: gonna come back with some crazy ass bill trying to
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: criminalize us for doing it, right?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: And for me, I was like, you know what, I
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: don't care about that, I'm gonna do it anyway. And
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: we continued to do it. And that bill was shut down,
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: but our Trey Hargett went across the state making people
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: feel like he was trying to minimize that due to
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: election integrity.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was horrible.
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: You would hear tequila in his mouth every other day
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: with something crazy about voter registration.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I thought he hated tequila.
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: That was until most recently he was arrested on a DUI,
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: leaving Bonnaroo.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Y'all heard about that, right?
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: And from what, I don't know if this is true,
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: don't quote me, but I heard the car reeked of tequila.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: So I was happy about that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: And, you know, people come from out of state and
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: they see us and they see the work that we're doing. Yes,
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: we are about meeting people where they are. We go,
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: we believe in organizing from the Trap House to the
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: White House. That means wherever black people are, we are there, baby.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: We are teaching them. We are empowering them.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: We're giving them the self-autonomy they need, not to just
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: go out and vote, but to become a part of
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: the process, run for office, sit on boards and commissions,
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: become organizers. Get the word out about saving our democracy.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: Because we know democracy is only going to work when
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: we all participate. I need this room the next time
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: Pod Save America comes to look just as.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Black as Essence Festival.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: I need this room. I need a mariachi band on stage.
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: I need rainbow flags hanging. I need this to reflect
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: what we want our democracy to look like, right? And
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: we can do that, Tennessee. I know people say it's
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: not gonna happen in Tennessee, but yes, it can. Because
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: what we're doing is we are breaking up their vote
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: share by finding that small slither margin of people that
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: they didn't think would turn out and getting them to
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: turn out. We've done it, right? We've won so many
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: local elections. Shout out to the Nashville Justice League in here.
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: We've won state elections. And we can win congressional elections,
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: we can win a gubernatorial race, we can do it,
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: but we can't do it sitting on our ass. We
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: can't do it with your pockets tight. Look to your
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: neighbor and say, open up your pockets. Because I'm about
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: to ask y'all for some money. But it's for a
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: good cause, I promise. And you're going to benefit from
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: it more than I do. We know that the burden
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: of saving democracy is on the back of black women.
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: And I say, yeah, bet on black women, but invest
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: in black women too, because I'm not going to do
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: it by myself. My ancestors built this country by themselves.
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to save it by myself. Y'all going
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: to help me. Yes, you white man, you going to
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: help me too, baby. You going to help me too.
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: We are going to do this as a team, Tennessee.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: We're going to do it together. It's going to take
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: all of us, every last single one of us in
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: this room, every last single person listening to my voice,
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: it's going to take all of us. So what I
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: want you guys to do before we go any further
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: is take out your phone. You can take my picture.
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: I know I look cute. But what I want you
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: to do is text the word 1, numeral 1, number 1, T-E-A,
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: to 44321. Again, text the number one, T-E-A, to 44321.
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: And when you do that, you can give to our mission.
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: And on a serious note, we were founded by five
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: black women, y'all. Our organization, yes, it is black founded,
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: it is black led. But here's my call to action
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: to you all. Number one, bet on black women. Number two,
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: I could drop the mic, but I'm not going to
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: do that. Bet on black women. We are the moral
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: vote of this country. When we vote, we vote with
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: everybody here. she, them, they, everybody in mind. When black
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: women go to the polls, we vote for everybody. You
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: can trust our vote. Two, invest in black women. Don't
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: just be betting on us. Put some money behind it.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: Don't show up on the day of the election thinking
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: you're going to get the goods and you ain't invested.
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: That's all I'm saying. Third, elect more black women. I
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: don't give a damn what the polls say. Don't tell
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: me what the polls say. I don't give a damn
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: what the polls say. If we don't start putting money
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: behind black women candidates, when we finally do all the
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: groundwork to get Tennessee ready to flip, what are people
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: going to say?
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: We need a moderate old white.
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: Man because that's the only person that can raise money.
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: Put money behind black women candidates. And lastly, believe in Tennessee, y'all.
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: I believe in Tennessee. I believe in Tennessee.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Believe in Tequila Johnson.
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: Amazing.
• 50:39
  Speaker 10: Joining us now is the founder of the nonprofit Stand
• 50:41
  Speaker 10: Up Nashville and the Democratic candidate of the 7th Congressional District.
• 50:45
  Speaker 10: Please welcome Odessa Kelly. It seems like you have some
• 51:13
  Speaker 10: fans here.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: What's up, good people?
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: When you started running for this seat, your district was
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: a Democratic district covering all of this pretty blue city.
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: Tell us what happened.
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: First of all, welcome to the city. Welcome to Nashville, man.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I lived in this city for a while.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: What happened was that bullshit, you know? I think it's
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: quintessential of what is happening all across this country, you know?
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: And Nashville has been a predominantly blue and progressive leaning
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: city for over 100 years. And as Tequila said, the
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: racist Republicans at the state legislature in their last act
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: to grab power decided they were going to split up
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: Nashville into three districts. But what they didn't know is
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: that we about that life here in Nashville, and we
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: fighters in this city, and that's exactly what we're gonna do.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: So they created three districts that will be blue.
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: So thanks to, as you put it, the Republicans' bullshit,
• 52:23
  Speaker 10: this is a pretty Republican district. You are a progressive,
• 52:26
  Speaker 10: a proud progressive running a progressive platform. How do you
• 52:29
  Speaker 10: convince a bunch of people who voted for Donald Trump,
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: who identify as conservatives, to support you in this progressive agenda?
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: Because I come with receipts. I'm a Nashvillian born and raised.
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: I got into doing this work because I was a
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: public servant working for Metro Parks and Recreation close to
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: 14 years. I was on the front line every day,
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: front line of poverty. I watched seniors in the morning
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: come together with other seniors and try to trade pills,
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: you know, because they cannot afford to keep buying prescription
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: over and over and over again. I high-fived teachers in
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: the afternoon and ran one of the best after-school programs
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: this city has ever seen. I know exactly what people's
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: urgencies are and what it looks like. I was working
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: two jobs, living check to check, trying to raise kids,
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: got a master's degree, got all this debt, and I'm underwater?
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: That don't have a red or a blue cap on it.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: What they got on it is stress. And regardless of
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: people in rural Tennessee, if they're in the suburbs, if
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: they're right here in my hood, everybody's feeling that same
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: type of stress and wants to get out from under it.
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: So I've had a lot of success of going into
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: rural Tennessee and talking to individuals. We got Republicans inviting
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: us down. You know, what they want is someone who
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: can address their needs and they know that I have
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: a track record of doing it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: And when you talk about policies like Medicare for All
• 53:48
  Speaker 10: or you as someone who has struggled in this economy
• 53:51
  Speaker 10: and fighting for it, is that an area of connection
• 53:54
  Speaker 10: with some of these very conservative rural voters who are
• 53:58
  Speaker 10: suffering similar economic stress?
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: Absolutely. I mean, it's funny when people call you the
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: far left or progressive. For what? Because we don't want
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: people to be homeless. We don't want people to starve.
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: We want people to be paid the dignity that they
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: are owed for the work that they do in this country.
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: That is why I'm a progressive, you know. I think
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: progressive means moving forward. You know, Elon ain't gonna ever
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: let me on one of them ships, so I might
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: as well take care of Earth, you know, so.
• 54:29
  Speaker 10: If elected in November, you would make history in a
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: whole bunch of ways. I'm pretty sure you would immediately
• 54:34
  Speaker 10: be the best basketball player in Congress. But you would
• 54:40
  Speaker 10: also be the first black woman to represent Tennessee and
• 54:42
  Speaker 10: the first openly gay black woman to be elected to
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  Speaker 10: Congress ever.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 10: What has the reaction been to your candidacy here in Tennessee?
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: I think it's been good. As you can hear, this
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: is the reaction I've been getting here and all over
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: the country. And it's not if, it's when.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: Thank you. They cut up this district thinking that they
• 55:03
  Speaker 7: were gonna make it harder, but who climbs uphill better
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: than people from the hood, activists, organizers, people out who've
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: been doing this fight against all odds? We're gonna win
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: this race.
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: You know, as Tequila pointed out earlier, a lot of
• 55:19
  Speaker 10: Democrats have written off large swaths of the South, National
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: Democratic Party. The term Southern Democrat has often been another
• 55:27
  Speaker 10: way of saying conservative Democrat or blue dog Democrat. In
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: your mind, as you think about it, what is a
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: Southern Democrat in 2022? How do we take how do
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: Democrats take back the South?
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: It's me.
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: It's everyone is here. It's the people who can hear
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  Speaker 7: my voice. It's the ones who are going to see
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: my pretty face. We all put this on, you know,
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: on YouTube next week. I'm serious. You know, is Andrew
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: Jackson and racist Republicans Southern? Yes. But that's not the
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: definition of Tennessee and that's not the definition of the South.
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: Everyone here in Nashville, in Tennessee, we've been fighting our
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: asses off to be the new model of what the
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: South is going to be. We're the definition of the South,
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: and everyone here is itching to do our part to
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: save our democracy, and that's exactly what we're gonna do.
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: As you mentioned, your background is in organizing, right? You've
• 56:21
  Speaker 10: worked in the community, you've tried to help people. How
• 56:24
  Speaker 10: did you see running for Congress as the natural extension
• 56:26
  Speaker 10: of that? What made you decide to run?
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: I think it was just the next step in me
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: wanting to be a good community organizer. I became a
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: community organizer because I was desperate to save my own life.
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: You know, here I am in a community center, and
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: I'm on the front lines of poverty. I'm living check
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: to check. I got friends telling me, am I putting
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: away for my 529? I'm like, what? I'm just trying
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: to make rent, you know? In one of the fastest
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: growing cities in America. I'm from a community that has
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: a case study of gentrification. You know, in the community center,
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: my job was to do boy scouts, girl scouts, arts
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: and crafts, make programs to make intergenerational connections with our
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: seniors and our youth. And I was good at doing it.
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: I could have retired doing that job, you know? But
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: what happened is, is if I stayed on that job
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: for 20 years, I might top out at 58K. I
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: can't buy a home in a neighborhood I grew up
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: in at 58K. And that is not just me. That
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: was happening to millions of other people. I had teachers...
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: In the elementary school that was connected to our community center,
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: they were texting me, asking me to put food boxes
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: to the side. People were coming in our community center
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: that had work uniforms on. These people were social workers.
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: These people did the sanitation, and they were other park workers.
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: The people who are the infrastructure of this city, the
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: infrastructure of this country, that are living check to check.
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: That's what pushed me to be an organizer. By the
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: time I became an organizer, I was really good at it.
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: When we passed that community benefits agreement in 2018, that's
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: to make sure that the city was gonna do right
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: by the people who lived here and not just adhere
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: to some developers. We made sure that the city had
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: a voice in everyone in it and how we shape
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: our city. Well, I got a chance to go around
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: the country, same issues that are happening around the country
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: were happening right here in Nashville. When the pandemic hit,
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: I was like, why is it a person who's working
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: in the communities and the community activists fighting harder than
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: anybody else for the CARES Act to get money directly
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: in the hands of the people who need it? And
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: when it came around November, I was like, the issue
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: that we have is that we do all the work.
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: We deal with all these dominant narratives for the things
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: that we actually need to move this country forward, but
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: we don't sit in the positions of leadership to get
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: it across the finish line. We need people who have
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: shared experiences of what the millions of us are going
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: through in the positions of leadership.
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: So it's very clear that you have a very fired
• 59:02
  Speaker 10: up following here in the audience tonight. But as you
• 59:08
  Speaker 10: can see, but for the folks who are listening at home,
• 59:11
  Speaker 10: before we let you go, tell us how they can
• 59:14
  Speaker 10: help your campaign. How can they volunteer to make sure
• 59:16
  Speaker 10: that you are the next member of Congress from this district?
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: Absolutely. For everyone that's out here in this crowd, thank
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: you for coming. To everyone who can hear my voice
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: and everyone that can see my pretty ass face.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: Follow us on social media, OdessaKellyTN. Again, that's OdessaKellyTN on
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: IG and Twitter. Odessa for Congress on Facebook. And go
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: to OdessaForCongress.com. That is our website. This campaign is not
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: about just getting me an office. It's about you having
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: the ability to shape this country in the way that
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: you see it. Don't let that small few of hateful
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: people be the ones that define this country. It's mine,
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: and I'm going to fight for it, damn it.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: All right, everyone, please give it up for Adessa Kelly.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 10: Adessa Kelly, thank you so much. When we come back,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 10: Vice President Al Gore.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Joining us now, one of the world's most important climate activists,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: winner of the Nobel Prize, and the 45th Vice President
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: of the United States, Tennessee's own Al Gore.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you for being here.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, well, thank you for inviting me, and welcome, as
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Odessa said, welcome to Nashville. Welcome to the Grand Ole Opry.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: I'm glad you came here.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: It is good to be back here. So you moved
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: back to Tennessee after you left the White House.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Involuntarily, yes.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Where in this state have you hidden the classified documents
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: you took with you Is it in an office? Is
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: it a home? Is it buried somewhere?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. Well, I came out here determined not
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: to commit news about the search of Mar-a-Lago, so I
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: didn't bring any classified documents with me.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: What's your reaction been? What's your general reaction been about
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: the last 48 hours, about the news of the Mar-a-Lago,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: we won't call it a raid, the visit by the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: FBI to Mar-a-Lago?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: Well, I have to say I have been inured to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: the regular astonishment associated with the misbehavior of the former
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: chief executive officer of the executive branch. But if you
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: ask me about my reaction to the news of the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: last 48 hours— My reaction to the last 48 hours
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: is we passed the most historic climate legislation in the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: history of the United States.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Come on. That was good.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: That was good.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: That was good.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 8: He didn't fall in our cable news trap trying to
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: make news of the day.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Vice President Al Gore says no to us.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: We.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: We were just talking backstage. It is unfortunate that the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: passage of the Inflation Reduction Act, which is the biggest
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: climate bill in the history of the United States, was
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: relegated to like.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: And let me just add, excuse me, in the history
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: of any nation in the world, okay? Now, don't get
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: me wrong. It has a few warts on it. Acceptable
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: compromises in a representative democracy. in order to get a majority,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: it's okay. You look at it through the lens of
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: carbon pollution reductions, it is absolutely amazing. Full credit to
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer and Joe Manchin and 12 to 15 Democratic
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: senators who have labored hard to make this stay at
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: the top of the priority list. You go back and
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: look at the Build Back Better bill at the beginning
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: of President Biden's term, and you follow all the different
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: provisions of it, the one provision that had the smallest haircut,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: the one part of that original bill that was reduced
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: the least was the climate package. And the reason for
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: that is there are now a whole lot of really
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: dedicated committed, passionate, educated, well-informed Democratic senators who made sure
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: that it stayed that way, and they've kept it in there.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: And all credit to Joe Biden also.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden too, yes. I'm a huge fan of this bill,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: but I've seen, you talked about some of the warts
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: on the bill, I've seen some of this criticism too,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: and I'm wondering what you think, because basically the argument is,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: last year the International Energy Agency said, you know, if
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: we're going to try to be net zero by 2050,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: we can't have any new oil or gas production. Obviously,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: this bill allows for some in order to get Manchin
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: on board. And basically, the argument is, but it's still
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: allowing some oil and gas production. And if the oil
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: and gas companies aren't really mad about this bill, then
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: it must not be that great. What do you think
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: about that? What do you say to that?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I really like and respect Joe Manchin.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: There have been times where that feeling has been challenged.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: You don't know what you're talking about. We've always loved
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Joe Manchin.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 8: We've always loved Joe Manchin here at Posse America. And
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 8: I don't appreciate the hissing for a hero.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: Look, in order for him to get on board and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: make his transformative decision to move this forward, he had
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: to have something, okay? He had to have something. And
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: what these provisions that were given to him Again, if
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: you look at it through the lens of how much
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: extra carbon is going to be involved there, not that much.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: New leases in the Gulf of Mexico, possibly on some
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: public lands, a small percentage of these leases are actually developed.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: And by the way, the supercharging of wind and solar
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: and battery storage and EVs it is going to really
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: discourage the willingness of investors to finance the development of
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: more oil and gas. I promise you that. You know,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: one of the statistics that I think has been really
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: underreported in this whole climate story is last year worldwide,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: if you look at all of the new electricity generation
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: that was developed in every country, what percentage of it
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: was solar and wind? We'll have the quiz later.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: We know the answer, but you should tell them.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: 90%. Wow. 90%. And the International Energy Agency says in
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: the rest of this decade it's going to be 95%.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: They're losing their markets, the fossil fuel industry, for electricity generation.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: They're losing their markets for transportation. A lot of countries
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: are now seeing electric vehicles really rise quickly. The third
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: market they have is petrochemicals, which is 75% plastics. The
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: fossil fuel companies are telling Wall Street they're going to
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: make up their lost profits by a massive expansion of plastics.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: How's that working out for the rest of us? Not well,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: and there are now bans being considered in countries and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: regional governments and cities around the world. I think that
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: they are on the way out. I think we are
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: crossing a threshold. Operating an electric vehicle, you can do
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: it for the equivalent of $ 1 a gallon gasoline. And
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: there's been a chicken and egg deal with the investors
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: in charging stations reluctant to put money up because there
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: are not enough electric vehicles, and people reluctant to buy
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: electric vehicles because they're worried about range anxiety in charging stations. Well,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: this finances a lot of chickens and eggs. They're all
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: going to get there. We're going to make this.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 8: You know, in response to the passage of these climate provisions,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 8: you said we're not going back, like this is an
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: historic change in how we're.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: Responding to this.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 8: You know, you've been in this fight for decades. You
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 8: wrote Earth in the Balance, what, 30 years ago. How
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: does it feel to watch this debate move from the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 8: edges of our politics kind of more towards the center?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 8: And as part of that, does Earth in the Balance
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: hold up or is it riddled with 90s slang?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: Riddled with what?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Slang.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: Does it say that climate change don't even go there?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Wind energy is fat. That kind of thing. Or does
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: it hold up well? What do you think?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness. You know, you've done this show so
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: many times, you've really gotten artful at it.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: That's one way to say it.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: People say I'm the Terry Gross of this.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: I never really thought that it would take as long
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: as it has. I organized and chaired the first congressional
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: hearing on the climate crisis 41 years ago. And I thought, naively,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: that laying out the facts, as the scientists did at
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: that hearing, would really seal the deal. It didn't work
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: out that way. And to be serious for a moment,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: the fact that 80 to 81 percent of all the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: energy used in the global economy still comes from fossil
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: fuels should have been a clue that this was going
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: to be pretty hard to make this transition, but we
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: are now making it. Earth in the Balance had one
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: of the radical proposals that I was attacked on back
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: then was we need to completely phase out the internal
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: combustion engine within 25 years and replace it with electric vehicles.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: We're finally getting to the point where we can do that.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, you know, climate policy has
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: been for a long time, carrots and sticks, right? Incentives
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: to produce clean energy and penalties for fossil fuel production.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: This bill is obviously all carrots, mostly carrots. Do you
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: think we can get to net zero or where we
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: need to be with just all incentives and without really
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: trying to like penalize oil and gas and fossil fuel production?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think the market is at such a place
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: that we can get there through incentives only?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you caught yourself and acknowledged there
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: are some sticks in this legislation, particularly on methane. There
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: is a fee, there's a methane tax that really gives
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: a powerful incentive to cut down on methane emissions. But
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: it's true that the heavy lifting in this legislation is
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: with so-called carrots, and the tax credits are quite substantial. Moreover...
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: in a new innovation for Washington, D.C., they are 10-year
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: tax credits. The tax credits in the past have been one, two,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: three years, and investors say, you know, I don't know
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: if that's going to last or not. Ten years is
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: long enough for significant investments to really transform the industrial base. So, yes,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: I think we can get there, but we still have
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: a lot to do. The facts are we have all
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: of the technologies we need right now with proven deployment
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: methods to cut emissions by 50% in the next eight years.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: That's the way station goal toward true net zero in 2050.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: Some of the technologies that we need for the second
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: 50% are in development now, and we have a line
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: of sight to where they will be able to be
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: deployed in time. But we need to invest in more
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: R & D. We need to use the EPA rulemaking authority.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: The Supreme Court decision did not take away all of
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: the EPA's authority. We need to limit those emissions. We
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: need more standards. We need the climate core that Ed
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: Markey has been pushing. There are a lot of other
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: measures that we need to circle back to and add
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: to the momentum from this legislation.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: Do you think so, you know, the estimates vary, but
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: let's say optimistically, and there's reason to believe that the bills,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: the models around the bill don't account for a lot
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 8: of really positive things that can happen. Let's say that
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: what comes out of this is we can get to
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: a 40% reduction based on 2005 levels.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: We want to get to 50%. Do you believe that without.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: Congressional action, we can do it through just executive action
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: by the Biden administration?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Do you think you can get that last 10%?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: Uh, Well, the UN goal, really the marker is 45%
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: by 2030. The modeling shows that this will produce somewhere
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: between 38% and 42% reductions. We won't know until we
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: get some practice with it. But I really do believe
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: that as we get this big wheel turning, the momentum
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: is going to be so powerful that it's going to
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: lead to further cost reductions for people renewable electricity for
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: electric vehicles, for battery storage, for building efficiency, for regenerative agriculture,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: sustainable forestry. Now, we're only 15% of the world emissions,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: so I have a training of 6,700 new climate activists
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: in Brazil next week. And we're really turning on the
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: heat because they've got an election between... Bolsonaro, who is
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: called the Trump of the tropics, and Lula, who is
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: coming back, and he is a pro-climate. He will be
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: a pro-climate president. We just had a climate election in Australia.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: The Climate Reality Project, which is the NGO where I
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: do these trainings, our third largest chapter is in Australia.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: We just flipped the government along with many, many others.
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  Speaker 4: And they have just... They have just passed in one
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: house the biggest climate legislation in Australia's history. Their second
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: House of Parliament still has to act, but they're expected
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: to pass it. It's in parallel to what we're doing
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: for a 43% reduction in the next eight years in
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: their emissions. So if we can get Brazil, Australia, and
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: the U.S. and keep moving, and if Europe gets the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: decision right on how to balance their energy security needs
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: after the Russian invasion of Ukraine and balance that with
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: continued sharp reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. I think we're
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: really off to the races. President Xi Jinping of China
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: just announced he is now going to meet with President Biden.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: They ended their military exercises after the fact that they
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: were so upset about Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan, and
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to end their boycott of the
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: climate talks with the U.S. pretty soon also.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: So, you know, you mentioned Brazil.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: We're in this struggle to kind of fight for democratic
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 8: values as we see this sort of authoritarian trend around
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: the world. Obviously, you made a decision in 2000 to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 8: put the country first and said, I, for the sake
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: of the legitimacy of democracy, I'm going to accept the result.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: We've seen another take on that from Trump. You won
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: the election. Trump lost the election and he refused to relent.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: The serious question is, how do you have a democracy
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: when only one side respects the values of these institutions,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 8: the precepts of this country. And when you watch someone
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 8: like Trump run roughshod over the rule of law, how
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 8: do you respond to that? How do you prove that
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 8: a game is worth playing when only one side wants
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 8: to play by the rules?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: Well, you know the old saying, you win some and
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: you lose some, and then there's that little-known third category.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: That used to work better than.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: It did this evening.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 8: Hey, listen, I had some great material about Finland joining
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: NATO earlier that absolutely cratered.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: It's them, it's not you. It's a good line. It's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: a good line.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: It was the way you made that play on the
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: word Finnish.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't know you could hear that.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: The Vice President got it. He's the only one. He's
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: the only one here.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: He got it. Why didn't you get it?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: No one else got it.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: He got it.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: I got it. I got it right away. Well... Look,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: we have had a lot of changes in the reality
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: being experienced by American voters. And the rise of hyper-inequality
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: has really contributed to a lot of anger. The perceived
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: threats to the previous dominance of a demographic group that
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: was always dominant That has also contributed to the anger
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: and the grievance that the previous president exploited. And then
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: there has been an underreported impact from the radical shift
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: in media. And we went from print to broadcast and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: then to internet and to social media. And I think
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: we've underreacted to the significance of these algorithms that prioritize
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: anger and outrage and grievance and division. In 2018, when
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: Facebook changed its algorithm, algorithm 18 did more harm than COVID-19,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: in my opinion. And people have weaponized a new form
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: of AI, not artificial intelligence, but artificial insanity, where they
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: actually try to convince people of objectively provable insanity. theories
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: about how the world is operating. We've seen it in
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: the wake of the FBI raid in Mar-a-Lago, that the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: FBI has planted stuff. I mean, you know, it's really crazy.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: And some of these wild theories insane theories that they
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: build constituencies around have really hurt our democracy quite a bit.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: And of course the big lie that Trump didn't lose
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: the election is the one that is motivating this current
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: set of outrages.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: You've graciously agreed to stick around for a game. Thank
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: you for doing that.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: It was against my better judgment. I have no idea
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: what's involved.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: That's how we like it. Before we do, I'm going
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 8: to ask you the stupidest question I've ever asked.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: In the history of this show. We're just saying something.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: That's a high bar to clear.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Look at John's face.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: He stepped into it.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 8: What do you call it when sophisticated AI uses machine
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 8: learning to figure out what kind of music you want
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 8: to hear, and it turns out what you want to
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 8: hear are beats by the nation's 45th vice president?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: I think it's obvious.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: It turns out that what you want to hear are beats?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: It's the Al Gore rhythm algorithm.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: Oh my god. All day we were hearing about this.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: He was very excited.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard that since arithmetic class. I mean, that was.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: It's the Al Gore rhythm algorithm.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: Ah.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Mr.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 8: Vice President, thank you for enduring this. You graciously agreed
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: to stick for a game, and so Josie and Dan
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 8: and Tommy, come back out here You stay right there.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 8: Tommy's gonna sit over here. I'm gonna move over here.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: Sorry about that joke.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Hi.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: Excuse me for not getting up. We tried to talk about.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: It.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: The 1990s.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 8: There they are, sandwiched between the start of the World
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 8: Wide Web and the end of history. And standing astride
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 8: the 1990s like a colossus is Vice President Al Gore.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 8: From a successful campaign to oust a wartime president to
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 8: the couple hundred elderly Jewish Floridians who bid farewell to
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 8: the 90s by accidentally voting for Pat Buchanan.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: In 2000 and thereby personally ushering in the end of
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: Roe v.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 7: Wade.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: Because....
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 8: I thought that might be what you said, but think
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 8: about it. It goes, butterfly ballots, butter emails, but my rights.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: LAUGHTER It's so fun to remember this, you know.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 8: The point is, the 1990s was a decade in which
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: the dangers of climate change came into focus. And as
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 8: that happened, we saw a coordinated effort by the fossil
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 8: fuel industry and Republican allies to politicize and confuse the issue,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 8: even as Vice President Al Gore began to try to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 8: draw the nation's.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: Attention to it. And in the 30 years.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: Between your ringing the alarm and the historic passage of
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 8: a climate bill this week, we've seen a relentless campaign
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 8: of misinformation. But can you tell the difference between denialists
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 8: who had beepers in car phones and denialists who had
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 8: truth social accounts?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: It's time for a game we call Only 90s Kids
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: Will Remember, a.k.a. Kyoto Recall. Like Kyoto Protocol.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: Mr.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 8: Vice President, there's Kyoto Protocol, you remember. Oh, yeah. They
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 8: weren't binding, but they were still pissed. But Total Recall,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 8: you remember Total Recall with Arnold Schwarzenegger?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: You know, that was like the Finnish joke. I got
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: it more easily. Did you all get a Kyoto Recall?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: You got it.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: I'll be back. You found your kryptonite, and I did
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: not expect this.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: We're taking this on the road.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 8: All right, here's how it works. We have two teams.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 8: One team will be Al Gore and Dan Pfeiffer. And
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 8: they will face off against Josie, Tommy.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: And John.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 8: I will read you quotes. You have to tell us,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 8: is this from the 1990s or the 2020s? And if
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 8: you can name the speaker, you get a bonus point.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: But that's going to be tricky. All right, are we ready?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, let's do it.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: The first question goes to Dan and the Vice President.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: Here's the quote.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 8: You also suggest taxes on gasoline, taxes on utilities, taxes
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 8: on carbon, taxes on timber. There's a whole host of taxes,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 8: and I don't believe raising taxes is the way to
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 8: solve our environmental problems. Was that the 1990s or the 2020s?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: What do you think, sir?
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: I think that's got to be the 1990s.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 10: All right, well, definitely not going to contradict the guy
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 10: who won the popular vote.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: Now, let me ask you this. Do you know who
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: said it?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: Do I know who said it?
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: I'll give you a hint.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: Newt Gingrich?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: The hint is, it was said to you personally.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: Would it have been Dan Coyle?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: You got it. It was in the vice presidential debate
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: of 1992.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 13: Nice.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: That was cool.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: That was impressive.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: All right, back to the team of Josie, Tom, and John. Quote,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 8: we've already warmed one degree Celsius, and do you know
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: what's happened since then? Let me tell you, we've had
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 8: more food grown. People die in the cold. This earth
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 8: is warming, and carbon is actually healthy for us. It
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 8: keeps people alive. Was that the 90s or the 2020s?
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: It feels like a 2020s holiday.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels stupid enough to be 2020. Yeah, it feels.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's 2020.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 8: 2020.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: You got it. Want to guess who it was?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I don't... I mean, that... MTG? MTG?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: You got it.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: You got it. MTG!
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor Greene.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Greene.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 8: Oh. Oh.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: For one second, I hoped you didn't know who that was.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: I was so happy for everyone.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, seriously.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: She's serious.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: She's a fascist that does CrossFit.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: Over to the vice president and Dan Pfeiffer. All 90s
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: kids will remember.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Quote.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 8: It does make you wonder sometimes, doesn't it, how theoretical
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 8: statisticians in the middle of the largest snowstorm in New
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: York City could stand there and say, I don't care
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: what it's doing, it's going to get very hot very soon.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: That's got to be the 90s.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: That was the 90s.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: And that's got to be Gingrich.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: That was Gingrich.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Wow!
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 7: Come on.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: Come on.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 8: Absolutely crushing.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: That is impressive.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: Over to the B team.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 8: Our budget does not operate on the assumption that global
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 8: warming is a proven phenomenon. In fact, it assumes at
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 8: best to be unproven and at worst to be liberal claptrap.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: Trendy, but soon to go out of style.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Has to be 90s, right?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 7: It sounds 90s to me.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: Claptrap?
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: Claptrap?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Claptrap. No one's saying claptrap right now. Get that in there.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: And trendy?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 7: 90s.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 8: Okay. It was California Representative Dana Rohrabacher in 95. Next
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 8: up for Dan, I want to call you Al in
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 8: this context. And this is in this context.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: You know, if you want to be proper, it's your adequacy.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: But you can use Al.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: It's okay. I can't do it.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: Dan and Al, ooh, that was tough. I did it,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: I did it.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 8: Quote, it's well past time to start prioritizing the border crisis.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 8: Prioritize the border, stop creating woke climate programs, and enforce
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 8: the law.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: Well, obviously, that's the 2020s.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: That's definitely the 2020s. Yes, it was, but you know
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: who said it?
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: Hmm.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: Do you have a guess? Ted Cruz, maybe?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go with that.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 6: It was close.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Close, it's Josh Hawley. Josh Hawley.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: Over to Tom, Josie, and John. First, the world isn't warming. Second,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: even if it were, oil and gas wouldn't be the cause. Third,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 8: no one can predict the likely future temperature rise.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 9: That's got like a very Mark Morrison kind of 90s
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 9: feel to it, mouth feel.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: Want to do 90s?
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 7: 90s.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: That is correct.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: It was Exxon CEO Lee Raymond in 1997.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I never would have got that.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: Final question to Dan and Al.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 10: Can we just pause for one second before that?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 10: As someone who moved to the city 20 years ago
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 10: to work for the vice.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: President, not Al, this is deeply uncomfortable. And I want
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: to be.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 10: And I want to apologize to.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: You for what is happening right now.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: You'll get over it, man.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: Back to Al and Dan. All right. A-Money, this one's
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 8: What?
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 8: Since we don't control the air, our good air decided
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 8: to float over to China's bad air. So when China
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: gets our good air, their bad air, it has to move.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 8: So it moves over to our good air. Then now
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 8: we've got to clean that back up.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: End of quote.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: Wow. I don't think we've had anybody that crazy since
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: the 2020s.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: That is Hershel Walker from like last month.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Okay. A twofer.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: Good for you, man.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: That's a double check, by the way. Double check.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: That's two points.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: Bing.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Do it again.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Who's hosting now, buddy?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: Macarena.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: Well, that sound can only mean one thing. It's time
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: for what we're calling the Y2K lightning round. Here's how
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: it works. I'm going to read you a quote.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: You tell us whether it was about climate change or
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 8: how all the computers were going to explode. in the
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 8: turnover from 1999 to 2000.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: Everybody ready?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 10: Sure.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: Quote, anybody can call out the answer. I came here
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: today because I wanted.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 8: To stress the urgency of the challenge to people who
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 8: are not in this room. When I give a speech
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 8: like this, I am typically preaching to the choir, but
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 8: hopefully this sermon is heard beyond the four walls of
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 8: this room because clearly we must set forth what the
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 8: government is doing, but also what all of us have
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 8: yet to do to meet this challenge together. There is
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 8: a pressing need for action. Was that a quote about
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 8: climate change?
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: Or Y2K.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Y2K.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: That was Y2K, and it was probably me.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: It was President Bill Clinton.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: But it was Y2K. I'm going to give everybody the point.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: Everybody gets a point.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh. So many times Clinton comes in there, and,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: Next quote.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 8: I'm told by some experts that the things that he
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 8: fears most might not be all that dangerous, according to
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 8: some scientists. That the thing we fear most might not
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 8: be all that dangerous.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: Climate change?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was climate change. It was climate change. That
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: was Ross Perot's running mate, James Stockdale, to Vice President
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  Speaker 3: Al Gore.
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  Speaker 4: Admiral Stockdale. A great man, but he unfortunately opened in
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  Speaker 4: the debate by saying... Why am I here?
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  Speaker 3: That did not land well.
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  Speaker 4: He really was a great man.
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  Speaker 3: You have to answer that question for yourself. In all
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  Speaker 3: forms of life, I think.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Final, final quote.
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  Speaker 8: When people say to me, is the world going to
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  Speaker 8: come to an end? I say, I don't know. You know,
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  Speaker 8: I feel for you, because the last time you came
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  Speaker 8: on this show, we were in a little room. We
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  Speaker 8: had a very civilized conversation about climate change.
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  Speaker 4: Hotel in L.A.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a nice time. And then this
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  Speaker 3: happens to you.
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  Speaker 4: Now we're in the grand old opera. Man, you guys
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  Speaker 4: have really come a long way.
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  Speaker 8: You've come a long way. But I'm going to need
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  Speaker 8: an answer. Was that about climate change or Y2K?
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  Speaker 4: That must be about Y2K.
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  Speaker 3: That is correct.
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  Speaker 4: There, there, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well.
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  Speaker 8: I've tabulated the points. John, Josie, Tommy, you're a little
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  Speaker 8: bit behind. Vice President Al Gore, Dan Pfeiffer, you are
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  Speaker 8: technically ahead. Unfortunately, unfortunately, you still lost. It doesn't make
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  Speaker 8: any sense.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I have been through this before. I don't
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  Speaker 3: like this script. All right, you know what?
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  Speaker 4: You technically won, but you still lost.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what I heard you say?
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  Speaker 8: I think that's technically the rules. I don't make the rules.
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  Speaker 8: All right, you know what? Vice President Al Gore, you're
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  Speaker 8: the winner of the game. Thank you so much. Thank
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  Speaker 8: you so much for doing this. That's our show for tonight.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you to Vice President Al Gore. Thank you to
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  Speaker 8: Odessa Kelly. Thank you to Tequila Johnson. Thank you to
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  Speaker 8: Josie W. Rice.
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