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Star Wars Halloween · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We're going to count how many systems a Death Star
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  Speaker 1: could destroy in 30 days.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to regret this.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the Nerd Party. Hi, this is Nick Anastasio,
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  Speaker 3: lead editor and writer on Maul Shadowlord, and you're listening
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  Speaker 3: to Aggressive Negotiations.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special Aggressive Negotiations, celebrating the week
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  Speaker 1: of Halloween in 2026.
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  Speaker 4: And that's about all I'm going to do that voice for.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Jedi Master John Mills, and joining me for this
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  Speaker 4: very special episode of Aggressive Negotiations is my dear friend,
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  Speaker 4: my spooky compatriot, Jedi Master Matthew Rushing. Matt, are you
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  Speaker 4: ready to thrill the audience this week?
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  Speaker 3: What are we going to count today?
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  Speaker 1: We are going to count how many systems a Death
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  Speaker 1: Star could destroy in 30 days.
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  Speaker 2: You want to.
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  Speaker 3: Know what's great? As I was in a meeting today
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  Speaker 3: and I used, this station is now the ultimate power
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  Speaker 3: in the universe. I suggest we use that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'll sidebar here and I'll say I'll give
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  Speaker 4: somebody on Instagram some credit because they shared some meme
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. And it shows Mahdi, you know, being choked.
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  Speaker 4: And it has George Michael with his guitar playing. And
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  Speaker 4: it says, I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic. I was like, all right, there's a deep cut.
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. That's very good. Hats off.
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  Speaker 4: And hats off to anybody that goes ahead and gives
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  Speaker 2: Recommend us to your friends. You know what? Go around.
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  Speaker 4: Stand on the corner with a big sign. Instead of panhandling,
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  Speaker 4: you could have a cardboard sign saying, listen to aggressive negotiations.
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  Speaker 4: People will thank you for it, especially if they're Star
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  Speaker 4: Wars fans. And even if they aren't, it's the strangest thing.
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  Speaker 4: I think we have a great show. Give us a
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  Speaker 4: star rating and review. And of course, follow the socials
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  Speaker 4: Facebook and Instagram. And we're all too old to be
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  Speaker 4: on Tik TOK. So definitely the, yeah, the, uh, the,
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  Speaker 4: the topic for this show is very near and dear
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  Speaker 4: to my heart because I love Halloween.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Huge, huge. Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I am pumpkin spice from the day it's released until
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  Speaker 4: the day they take it from me and I have
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  Speaker 4: to wait until the next season that people who don't
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  Speaker 4: live where I live call fall.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm thinking in the Star Wars galaxy.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: In an empire or a republic of a million worlds
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  Speaker 4: with all of these crazy creatures and creature designs that
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  Speaker 4: we've seen, we all know that dressing up in costumes,
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  Speaker 4: especially thrilling costumes to scare people, that's part of Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: So if Halloween were to exist in the Star Wars galaxy,
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  Speaker 4: what could you possibly dress as to go around trick-or-treating?
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  Speaker 3: I really love this question. And obviously, I would be
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  Speaker 3: going as a Hutt Slayer. You know, that would be,
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  Speaker 3: I think, one, it's just the outfit that everybody wants
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  Speaker 3: to see me in. And so you're.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, universe.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's absolutely the first thing that comes to mind.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, you're welcome. You know, I worked hard for
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  Speaker 3: this body and you're going to enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed. I, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to say that if we were to keep
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  Speaker 4: it strictly to Jabba's palace, if you're in a Hutt
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  Speaker 4: Slayer outfit, I'm going to size noodles because I feel
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  Speaker 4: that size noodles has a figure that it more represents mine.
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  Speaker 3: And I can potato stuffed into jeans.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That would be, that would be either that, or I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be droopy McCool.
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  Speaker 4: One of the two of those, but I, you know, I,
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  Speaker 4: I mean this like in like a quasi serious sort
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  Speaker 4: of way, right? Because I, even though we dress up
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  Speaker 4: in costumes, we tend to be thoughtful about, you know,
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  Speaker 4: other people and their sensibilities and stuff like that. So
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  Speaker 4: it's like, are you in a bind? Let's say there's a,
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  Speaker 4: a single planet where Halloween exists. What kind of restrictions
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  Speaker 4: are you under? Because we've seen very clearly established in
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  Speaker 4: star Wars. Like you're not going to dress as, um,
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  Speaker 4: you know, uh, uh, Rodian or a Kowakian lizard monkey or, um,
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  Speaker 4: If you dress as a four-armed giant creature, it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be like, oh, you're Dexter Jester.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, no, I'm a creature.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, you're Dexter Jester. What are the options
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  Speaker 4: even out there for a Halloween costume for you? If
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  Speaker 4: you dress as a Jedi during the Empire era, you're
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  Speaker 4: going to get killed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that causes problems. I don't think you stay alive
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  Speaker 3: after that.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, would wearing a Jedi costume during the Imperial era...
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  Speaker 4: be the equivalent of wearing insert your unpopular historical figure, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, costume here, right? Like you wouldn't go around
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  Speaker 4: dressed as, uh, you know, I don't know, um, pick a,
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  Speaker 4: a controversial historical figure, right? Who, who would you not
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  Speaker 4: walk around dressed as like, is that the equivalent of
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  Speaker 4: what a Jedi is? Like you're just, You're breaking all
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  Speaker 4: of the social taboos by being a Jedi during the
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  Speaker 4: Imperial Era.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, do you die if you dress up as Palpatine, right? Because,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you're pretending to be.
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  Speaker 2: Palpatine, right? Ooh, yes. That's right.
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  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, do you just die because of that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, think of the possibilities here of actual Palpatine could
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  Speaker 4: go out trick-or-treating and And people will be like, aha,
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  Speaker 4: silly costume. And he just zaps him with lightning and
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  Speaker 4: takes all the candy.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Because he seems like a take the whole candy bowl
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  Speaker 4: kind of guy. It seems like he would do that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to mess with him, honestly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But like, what are you going to dress as a Sith?
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  Speaker 4: You know, that seems a little controversial too.
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 4: What would your options be? Like Republic era, what are
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  Speaker 4: the restrictions? And Imperial era, what are the restrictions?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I was thinking about this because
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  Speaker 3: it does feel like it would be planet to planet, right?
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  Speaker 3: And I think that there would be things– if you
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  Speaker 3: had this type of holiday on different planets, it would
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  Speaker 3: be about the things that either you find scary on
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  Speaker 3: your planet that nobody else does. And– but also maybe–
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  Speaker 3: It gives you the opportunity to be able to dress
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  Speaker 3: up like one of your alien friends, right? So you
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  Speaker 3: grow up a Naboo. You're a humanoid, and you go
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  Speaker 3: as a Gungan or vice versa maybe. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how a Gungan tries to dress up as a humanoid human,
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  Speaker 3: but that would be interesting. So– But, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we were joking about this idea of streaming in Star Wars,
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  Speaker 3: but I would think, you know, your popular holonet stars
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  Speaker 3: you might dress as, you know? So we know that
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  Speaker 3: the holonet exists for entertainment. You know, maybe you have...
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  Speaker 3: uh itchy special helmet that you're wearing you know this
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  Speaker 3: that you know the special um you know singers that
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  Speaker 3: we saw on uh the holiday special you know oh
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  Speaker 3: um oh.
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  Speaker 4: You could be like the jefferson starship from exactly from
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  Speaker 4: the holiday special why not yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um so i mean why wouldn't that exist um And
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  Speaker 3: I think depending on what era you're talking about, there
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  Speaker 3: absolutely could be– oh, I'm Luke Skywalker or oh, I'm
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  Speaker 3: Princess Leia. Those type of things, I think you would
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  Speaker 3: actually see that stuff happening, right? I think that would
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  Speaker 3: not be strange to see people dressing up as their
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  Speaker 3: favorite hero of the rebellion in those times.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's the interesting part is like
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  Speaker 3: when you think of the different eras of Star Wars,
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  Speaker 3: there would be things that you probably would dress up as.
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  Speaker 3: And then there would be things that you wouldn't dress
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  Speaker 3: up as, right? Depending on what era you were in.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's just incredibly interesting to me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's one of those things as well
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  Speaker 4: where I think maybe just the idea of something like
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  Speaker 4: Halloween– just doesn't carry over necessarily but at the same
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  Speaker 4: time we know that George Lucas himself grew up informed
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  Speaker 4: by these sort of cultural traditions that we.
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  Speaker 2: Have here you know at least in the.
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  Speaker 4: United States and everything so it's like it feels like
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  Speaker 4: it would belong to have some sort of Halloween type
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  Speaker 4: of thing happening yeah like if I saw that happening
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  Speaker 4: in a Star Wars property I would accept it immediately
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  Speaker 4: I'd be like well yeah of course because a lot
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  Speaker 4: of that Americana has seeped its way into the source
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  Speaker 4: material from the beginning. And I don't think we should
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  Speaker 4: ever reject it. We should always be open to the
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  Speaker 4: idea that we would see something recognizable of our own
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  Speaker 4: culture and or cultures reflected in there. I mean, I like,
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  Speaker 4: I immediately go to sort of like almost the comical,
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  Speaker 4: like I would love to see an actual legitimate, silly
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  Speaker 4: 1970 style instead of a holiday special. I would have
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  Speaker 4: loved to see a star Wars Halloween special. where kids
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  Speaker 4: are trick-or-treating and they show up and they go to
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  Speaker 4: like Darth Vader's house and he opens the door and
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  Speaker 4: then they get scared, drop their candy and run away
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  Speaker 4: and he just picks up the candy is like all
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  Speaker 4: too easy yeah you know and like goes like that's
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  Speaker 4: the type of thing i would love somebody to make
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  Speaker 4: that i would like i don't understand why we don't
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  Speaker 4: make that now.
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  Speaker 3: They make a lego one thing special they did there was.
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  Speaker 2: Well there was um there was tales of terror i
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  Speaker 2: think yeah yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that was good it was fine but i'm talking
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  Speaker 4: about like an all-in sort of like In the vein
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  Speaker 4: of hyperspace hoopla.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like completely embracing the absurdity of it. I think there's
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  Speaker 4: real potential in that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's interesting too because like you said
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning, I think the thing that makes this
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  Speaker 3: such an interesting question is the whole fact that You're
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  Speaker 3: not going to– the Star Wars galaxy is so full
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  Speaker 3: of strange and alien creatures already. So the idea of
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  Speaker 3: a Zabrek existing doesn't make them think of the devil anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: The way it does for us. Right. Because it's just
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  Speaker 3: a natural look for an alien species in the galaxy
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  Speaker 3: that you've probably seen many of.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think that's what would be interesting is
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  Speaker 3: like the scary part of this would be. And for
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  Speaker 3: the people in the different planets, it would probably be
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  Speaker 3: the alien species who's like an enemy of you or
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  Speaker 3: had been at war with your planet at some point,
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  Speaker 3: something like that. So if you had these small, minor
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  Speaker 3: conflicts or major conflicts that had happened in neighboring systems,
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  Speaker 3: neighboring planets before the galactic revolution, republic became a thing
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  Speaker 3: there is that possibility where it's like you would be
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  Speaker 3: kind of and I feel like you would be reaching
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  Speaker 3: back in time to historical things that have happened that
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  Speaker 3: weren't necessarily a part of what you're experiencing now you
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  Speaker 3: know so again maybe you know your planet was at
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  Speaker 3: war with Dathomir at one point And, you know, right.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what makes them scary to you. But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that was a millennia ago.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess I imagine instead of probably
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  Speaker 4: the thing to resolve, it would be like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a zombie is a zombie is a zombie. So if
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  Speaker 4: you're a stormtrooper zombie that you're still in the Halloween thing,
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  Speaker 4: it's not that you're dressed as a stormtrooper. It's a
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  Speaker 4: stormtrooper zombie. So like a zombie riff or a ghost
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  Speaker 4: riff on anything is like that's a very clear middle
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  Speaker 4: lane to occupy. But, you know, having glowing eyes or having,
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  Speaker 4: you know, extra fingers or having, you know, like a
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  Speaker 4: different sort of body shape. I think, if anything, what
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  Speaker 4: it does is Halloween and Star Wars would just be
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  Speaker 4: in such a very well-defined middle path.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You would have to go with a ghost or a
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  Speaker 2: zombie or.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, can you go as like a vampire type
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  Speaker 4: of thing? Aren't there species that we know of that
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  Speaker 4: live parasitically off of.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean... You know, like... Well, I mean, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm also thinking, you know, you could go as a...
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  Speaker 3: Creature on your planet, right? So you could say– Oh, I.
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  Speaker 2: See what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I want to be a loath wolf or a
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  Speaker 3: loath cat or I want to be a Kowalkian monkey
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  Speaker 3: lizard or maybe even– I think– Maybe there are those kids.
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  Speaker 3: I want to be a Hutt. And yeah, making the
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  Speaker 3: paper mache Hutt costume for the parent in the Star
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  Speaker 3: Wars galaxy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 4: I know that I can't go as Radha this year
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  Speaker 4: because they sold out of the costume.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, everybody. Yeah. That's okay.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you don't have the apps for that, John.
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  Speaker 3: So come on.
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  Speaker 2: I got the arms for it though. Come on. Let's
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  Speaker 2: be honest here. I'm my own man now.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, sure. Come on now.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the thing is, when you talk about
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  Speaker 4: the creatures and everything, I think anything from the Djeric
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  Speaker 4: match in Mandalorian and Grogu qualifies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. Great call.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how you're going to... I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how you're going to address the big worm thing. I
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  Speaker 4: know they all have names, folks. I don't learn them anymore.
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  Speaker 4: The big worm thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: With the proboscis and everything like that. Yeah, I could
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  Speaker 4: easily see that.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I.
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  Speaker 4: I would imagine on Shikari that for a generation afterward,
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  Speaker 4: kids dressed as Dejara creatures because that scared the living
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  Speaker 4: bejeebers out of everybody in that city.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that's– what you just said though, it
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  Speaker 3: also makes me think of– I mean how many kids
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  Speaker 3: might dress up– As a Mandalorian, you know, and or again,
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  Speaker 3: like you mentioned, you know, there would be times where
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  Speaker 3: you could have dressed up as a Jedi because that
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  Speaker 3: would be something you'd want to be and you thought
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  Speaker 3: was cool, you know, or, you know, so there's those.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that those type of things wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: all that unheard of at different points in the Star
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  Speaker 3: Wars galaxy, you know, and during the Republic period or,
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  Speaker 3: you know, after the galactic civil war, you would have
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  Speaker 3: had that type of thing happening. And, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: makes sense, right? Because those were races of beings that
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  Speaker 3: were really cool. And the beauty of like a Jedi or,
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  Speaker 3: you know, especially it's like, you know, Jedi come from
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  Speaker 3: all races. See, in.
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  Speaker 4: My brain, I think it would also be really interesting
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  Speaker 4: if you wanted to do like a Star Wars Halloween
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  Speaker 4: episode of something. Where it would be something where you
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  Speaker 4: would find out that in the very lower levels of Coruscant,
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  Speaker 4: not like the very, very lower levels, but like the
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  Speaker 4: 1313 areas and stuff like that, you would have, you
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  Speaker 4: would find those neighborhoods where they still, like you could
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  Speaker 4: even have like a beautiful thing where like the Jedi
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  Speaker 4: went down there and they see this trick-or-treating thing and
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  Speaker 4: it's completely foreign to the people that live up on
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  Speaker 4: the top levels of Coruscant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. They have no idea what this is.
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  Speaker 4: And they explain how it's like, They've held on to
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  Speaker 4: the old traditions because it gives them meaning and structure
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  Speaker 4: and balance when they know that they have the weight
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  Speaker 4: of a city planet on top of them.
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  Speaker 2: It roots them.
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  Speaker 4: It lets them feel like there's still some sort of
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  Speaker 4: normalcy and connection when they live on a city planet.
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  Speaker 4: It would seem like this would be a Halloween type
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  Speaker 4: thing would be extremely.
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  Speaker 2: Important to the everyday people.
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  Speaker 4: That aren't like the cloud minders on Coruscant, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the J and the Jedi would be reminded if they
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  Speaker 4: went down there of how disconnected they had come from
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  Speaker 4: the people they claim that they cared about most because
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  Speaker 4: they would have no connection anymore to these important traditions.
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  Speaker 4: It would be foreign to them. Like Coruscant itself, you
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  Speaker 4: could just like peel apart. That layer is like, there's,
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  Speaker 4: there are different cultures on different levels because these people
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  Speaker 4: don't see daylight. So they, you know, like that's sort
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  Speaker 4: of a, a thing where it's like this is the
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  Speaker 4: world they live in and it's completely detached even though
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  Speaker 4: we're on the same planet. You have like a whole beautiful,
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  Speaker 4: you know what? I think we've just brainstormed something again
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  Speaker 4: that we could pitch to Lucasfilm as a standalone like 15,
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  Speaker 4: 20 minute episode.
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  Speaker 2: What do you say? I think we've, I think we
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  Speaker 2: can pitch this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that the beauty of Star
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  Speaker 3: Wars is that you can do so many things with
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  Speaker 3: it and I think having watched through The Clone Wars
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  Speaker 3: a few times, you clearly have episodes in that show
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  Speaker 3: specifically that are horror-based, right? And there are episodes, of course,
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  Speaker 3: of Maul's Shadow War that have horror elements to them.
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  Speaker 1: Very much.
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  Speaker 3: And so all of these shows kind of show us
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  Speaker 3: that those elements– can exist in the Star Wars galaxy.
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  Speaker 3: And it's very clear, you know, when you think of
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: the idea of things to be scared of in the
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Star Wars galaxy, there is so much unknown. And so
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: it would make sense almost why, you know, certain superstitions
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: would have developed on different planets. And, you know, if
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: you had a holiday like this, those would be the
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: things that you would kind of be Utilizing as like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: quote unquote, being scared of for the night. And yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, gosh, you even think of I'm thinking of
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the Clone Wars episode where you have, you know, they're on. Oh,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: my gosh. I think it's like Trespass and they're on
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: the snow planet. Right. You know, and you have.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So we're season two.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Season two. And you have that those two species. Right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Weren't the Kubaz one of the species on that? Yeah.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what they're called.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: If I'm wrong, please don't kill me. But I'm pretty
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: sure it was the Kubaz that were the species on that.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Somebody is screaming at us right now.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, look, guys. There's so much on this.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: There's a lot to keep track of.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: And I'm sorry that I cannot remember. I apologize. But
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, like, those two alien species, right? Thinking...
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: of– and clearly you have the Pandorans who see this
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: species as being kind of terrifying. They see them almost
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: as being a species that feels like– This is the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: only way to say it, but it's not what I mean.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: You know, it's not totally correct, but like basically subhuman, right?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: They kind of see them as less than. And so,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: you know, in that, I think that's a place where
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: it's like you could totally see Pantoran kids dressing up
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: like that for quote unquote Halloween, you know?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair. Okay, so last question to
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: round it out. And it's a two-part question. One, Have
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: you ever dressed as a Star Wars character for Halloween?
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I'm presuming the answer is yes. And two, what is
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: the coolest Star Wars costume you've seen around the Halloween time?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Now, obviously, the cosplayers are a different level.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I go to a convention.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: You guys, that's pro-level stuff. I'm talking about little kids
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: walking around. What's the coolest little kid costume you've seen?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: There were the Talt's. I looked them up. That's who
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: they were. Uh, and so nuts to, yeah, no, I mean,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't remember that until I looked it up. So, um, man, I,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: have I ever dressed up as a star? I've actually, this,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: this is going to shock people. I've actually never dressed
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: up as a star Wars character for Halloween. Um, I'm
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: not a, this will surprise a lot of people. I'm
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: not a big dresser upper. I don't like dressing up.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: And I think the biggest reason for that is because
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I don't like being uncomfortable. And most things that you
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: dress up in aren't comfortable things to want to wear
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: for an extended period of time i guess unless you're
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: going as a jedi and then you know they basically
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: have khaki pants boots and a nice top you know
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: hot top bro uh.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And this is the key difference between us is i
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: have a flair for the dramatic i and i've always loved.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Dressing i do not especially at halloween time yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: My wife hates that about me yeah um But, dude,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: so we– my wife and I, the last few years,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: we've helped out at our kids' carnival at church. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: we have run a booth that is called Bloat the
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Death Star. And I had printed specifically off a pattern
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I found a layover for a cornhole set. So it
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: looks like the Death Star trench hole. And yeah, so
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: the kids are trying to throw it and blow up
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: the Death Star so they can get candy.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I love it. It's awesome. I love it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: But last year we had this cute little boy come
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: up and he was dressed like the Mandalorian. And it
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: was just so adorable. And it just made my heart,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: you know, anytime you see a kid dressed up as
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: a Star Wars character, it's great. We saw some babies
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: dressed up as baby Grogu. which is super cute as well.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: So like, yeah, that kind of stuff, just like, I
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: love it, man. What about you?
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm biased because it took a lifetime, but finally
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: one of my children dressed in a costume that was,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: we worked as a complimentary team and I dressed as
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: a Jedi and she.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Dressed as Ahsoka.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, bro.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: And this was recent and that was, That was like
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: the watershed moment. It took me forever to get to
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: that point. And I was like, yay.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: All right. Achievement unlocked, finally.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: So for me, seeing my own child dressed as Ahsoka,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: that's got to be the winner. And that's not taking
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: anything away from anybody else's kid or any other kid.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: But obviously, that's what I'm going to respond to. I
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: remember as a kid, I think I dressed... And you
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: got to keep in mind, with how old I am,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: the costumes, the only ones that were available were like
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the half mask thing.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And then the vinyl thing that had like
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the name of what you were on it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: It's like, it says, it's like you're wearing a name tag,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: you know, that like you work at Best Buy, Boba Fett.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Yes. I think I was like an Ewok two years
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: in the row. We made a lot.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: We made, we did a lot with a very little
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: coming up. I was, I was Dracula several years in
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: a row. Because all that required was a liberal application
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: of hair gel and some baby magic and talcum powder
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to make me pale. And I can't stand the touch
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: of either one of them anymore.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: A pox upon them.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: And if I have a time machine, I'm going to
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: murder the people that invented them.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I've got to brag. We had some of our really
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: good family friends and– their first son that they had,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: they dressed him up as an Ewok and watching him
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: walk around the church looking like a baby Ewok was
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: like the most adorable thing you've ever seen. It was awesome, man.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Just awesome.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: You know, and those are the moments. And that's why
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: when people Were complaining where they were, oh, the Ewoks
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: or this and that. It's like, yeah, it's friendly to kids.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: When you see that kid dresses the Ewok, you're like, oh,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I get why George Lucas fought for that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: 100%. Because he wants the kids to have a good time. Like,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: what a big heart that guy had from the beginning
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: to make sure that the kids felt like they belonged
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: in this game.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Like, I just, it's so wonderful. I love Halloween.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I love kids. I love everything about Star Wars. But Matt,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I also love staying in contact with you online. I'm
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: not going to give everybody your number because.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I do text you.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that. I feel like that would
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: be cheating if I gave your number out. But where
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: can people reach you online?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it makes me really appreciate you that
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: you're not going to dox me. So that's great. But
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: you can find me all over social media.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: We need to phrase that as not yet. Not yet. Okay.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It's always an option.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: This is– anyway. You can find me all over social
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: media under the name MattRushingCereal2. Of course, I'm also here
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: on the network with a great show called Owl Post
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: talking about every single chapter of the Harry Potter series.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: And then you can find me over on the TFM
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Network with a bunch of shows. My good friend Chris
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Jones and I are talking a lot of Star Wars,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of Star Trek over there. Plus the 602
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Club where you can find us talking about all of
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: the franchises we love. John's a frequent guest over there.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: My friend Rye and I are loving all the movies
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: that we're talking about these days. So hope you'll check
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: all of those out. But John, you know, if people
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: want to see what you're dressing up as this Halloween season,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Where can people find you?
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Well, gosh, you can find me as Kessel Junkie out
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: there on the wilds of the internet. You can find
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: me on KesselJunkie.com. I feel a writing urge coming on
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: again soon. It goes in spurts, you know, comes and goes,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: the urge to write. Anyway, you can also find me
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: on Goodreads and Letterboxd under those names. And the social
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: networks I'm on, ex-Twitter. I never post on Instagram, but
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I pay attention to stuff.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Whatever. It's the same thing.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: But anyway, I got to go finish the stitching on
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: my costume, Matt. So I think it's time to close
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: these negotiations.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: John, negotiations are closed. Join the revolution. Join the nerd party.