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Beaman Monster: Missouri Hybrid Dogman - Remote Viewing Investigation · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: So so Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Cryptid Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in to our fantastic remote viewing show tonight, where
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  Speaker 2: we have a very interesting cryptid to get into tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And also, we have a lot of history behind circuses
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  Speaker 2: and things like that to talk about tonight. Namely, train wrecks, actually,
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  Speaker 2: that have to deal with sideshows and stuff. But we
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  Speaker 2: have so much Good information for you guys tonight. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm super excited to have all of you guys here tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I do have my good buddy, Mr. Robbie Raines, is
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  Speaker 2: here with us tonight. Surprise, surprise, y'all. In the studio tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And so we have, yeah, like I said, we have
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  Speaker 2: a lot to discuss tonight. I hope you guys have
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed all the shows this week. So far we've had
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  Speaker 2: some really incredible shows. And we've talked about Skinwalker Ranch and,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you name it. y'all check all the shows out. Okay. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, somehow, somehow I've managed. I was thinking I
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  Speaker 2: put my foot in my mouth this week because I
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  Speaker 2: got into, uh, some of my personal, I started having
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  Speaker 2: these epiphanies during the shows live.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Where I'm like, wow, I think I live in a simulation.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm not sure what's going on. Is the
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  Speaker 2: government in on this? I'm becoming like the ultimate conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: theorist when it comes to cryptids and maybe even us
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  Speaker 2: living in the Truman show cryptid edition. Okay. So, But
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  Speaker 2: tonight we are going to be discussing the Bayman monster
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  Speaker 2: out of Missouri. If you guys will remember on, was
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  Speaker 2: this this past Saturday night or on Saturday, we had
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  Speaker 2: Eric Testerman here and he's out of Missouri. We have,
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  Speaker 2: this was actually mentioned during that show. And, and I
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  Speaker 2: have remote viewing data for this cryptid and, and it
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  Speaker 2: is actually pretty fantastic to, And we have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of dots to connect tonight. And, of course, Robbie is here.
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  Speaker 2: Robbie and DA had a fantastic show last night, by
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  Speaker 2: the way. If you guys haven't already, please go and
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  Speaker 2: subscribe to Nightmare Hunters Podcast over on YouTube. And check
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  Speaker 2: out their latest show, too, on Cowman. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: ask Robbie about that tonight. Y'all, I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: we come up with all these cryptids, y'all. It's wild,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it? But tonight, this one is probably going to
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  Speaker 2: blow your socks off. It's actually really interesting. And it's
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  Speaker 2: right out of Missouri, Kansas City area to be exact.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you guys want to check out the remote
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  Speaker 2: viewing data for this target tonight, please go over to
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  Speaker 2: my Patreon. It's the Cryptid Huntress on Patreon. I just
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  Speaker 2: updated that tonight. So all of the data is over there.
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  Speaker 2: If you guys are interested in seeing any of that,
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  Speaker 2: shout out to all my Patreon members. Y'all really keep
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  Speaker 2: me going over here. And I appreciate your support so much. Also,
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  Speaker 2: I have a website. It's the cryptidhunters.com. You can find
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  Speaker 2: all my shows over there, my calendar of events. I
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  Speaker 2: do have a big event coming up, uh, in October.
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  Speaker 2: If anybody's interested in joining us over there, that let's see, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Cornwallis 1828. We have some big names over there. We got, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Tim Kumbo Baker. We got Mark Green, Greg House, Mark Newbill,
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  Speaker 2: Flat Rock Greg, and myself, uh, Greg Ogles. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know. Maybe I can convince Robbie to
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  Speaker 2: come and show up that day. I don't know. We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: But it's going to be a fun time. There's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a lot of great people down there at that.
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  Speaker 2: It's down in kind of South Alabama. Mid, south to midly.
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  Speaker 2: That's what my dad would say. Middle, kind of like
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  Speaker 2: middle south Alabama. And we're going to actually have an
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  Speaker 2: expedition that weekend as well. If anyone's interested in joining
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  Speaker 2: that expedition, you sign up with Squatch Fishing Outfitters. With
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  Speaker 2: Scott and Sheila Granger. And you guys can find all
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  Speaker 2: that information on my website. Okay. Or over on their
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  Speaker 2: website and their TikTok. All right. Well, let's get into
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  Speaker 2: our show today, y'all. Because this is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The Beeman Monster is a legendary cryptid that has been
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  Speaker 2: part of the folklore of Sedalia, Missouri for generations. According
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  Speaker 2: to legends, it is the offspring of a 12-foot tall gorilla.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Do y'all believe that? What do y'all
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  Speaker 2: think about this 12 foot tall gorilla that escaped from
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  Speaker 2: a circus train and crashed near Bayman, Missouri in the
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  Speaker 2: early 1900s. Encounters with this creature have been reported up
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  Speaker 2: to this decade. The creature is said to be a large,
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  Speaker 2: hairy bipedal animal that resembles a wolf or a coyote,
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  Speaker 2: potentially a kind of hybrid between a Bigfoot and a wolf.
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  Speaker 2: Some say, The people who have seen it have claimed
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  Speaker 2: that it has a wolfish face that is actually terrifyingly human.
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  Speaker 2: This terrifying creature has been sighted unaliving livestock and leaving
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  Speaker 2: very large tracks with a stride that is too far
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  Speaker 2: apart for the normal human to walk. A posse, my favorite,
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  Speaker 2: posse gathered to hunt this thing in the late 1950s
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  Speaker 2: by people carrying all sorts of shotguns. To catch the
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  Speaker 2: Beeman monster. Gather up the posse, y'all. And so this
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  Speaker 2: has been a remote viewing target. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: go over the data tonight in just a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I'm more excited about all the history behind this and
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  Speaker 2: the discussion that Robbie and I are about to have
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  Speaker 2: on this. I do have Robbie Raines here. He is
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  Speaker 2: an author, a researcher, a field researcher, actually. He's been
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  Speaker 2: out in the field with me a couple times. And
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  Speaker 2: he has all his books can be found on Amazon.
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  Speaker 2: under Robbie Jed Rains. He's also on Nightmare Hunter Podcast
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube with DA Roberts and all the fellows over there.
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  Speaker 2: And he's always a delight to have on my show.
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  Speaker 2: Please help me welcome to the show, Mr. Robbie Jed Rains.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Robbie?
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  Speaker 1: Jessica, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm excellent. Thank you for joining me two weeks in
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  Speaker 2: a row.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: In a row. Two weeks in a row.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Go Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: I had to wear the reminder so she wouldn't say
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  Speaker 1: Auburn this time.
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  Speaker 2: I had to. I'm sorry. I had to say Clemson
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  Speaker 2: at least once. I don't know what came over me.
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  Speaker 2: I had a senior moment last week. And I said, Auburn,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many times. You guys are like
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  Speaker 2: mortal enemies, aren't you?
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  Speaker 1: It's like a big rivalry. South Carolina is our mortal enemy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the Gamecocks, see.
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  Speaker 1: Georgia and Auburn have got a big rivalry.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they do. Yes, they do. I'm from Georgia. Well, actually,
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  Speaker 2: I'm more of an Alabama fan. Don't tell nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Alabama and Auburn don't have too much of a,
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  Speaker 1: they got a pretty much of a love-hate relationship, too.
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  Speaker 1: That's the iron bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Exactly. Well, I'm, you know, I'm a Georgia peach,
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  Speaker 2: and people have come at me for, like, not having
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  Speaker 2: Georgia Bulldogs number one. You know, I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: I've always been an Alabama fan. But anyways, we're not
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  Speaker 2: here to discuss football and sports and stuff. We're here
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  Speaker 2: to talk about weird stuff. Okay. Weird stuff. Speaking of
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  Speaker 2: weird stuff, you and DA had the most interesting cryptid
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  Speaker 2: y'all were talking about last night on your show. Some
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  Speaker 2: kind of cow man. What is the cow man?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I believe it's just a Bigfoot because you got
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  Speaker 1: to think this story started or was first talked about
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  Speaker 1: in the 1960s. And, you know, the term Bigfoot was
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  Speaker 1: only like two or three years old when this came up. So,
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  Speaker 1: it's no different than hairy man or wild man or
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  Speaker 1: tall man or any of the other descriptors. The boy
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  Speaker 1: was like four years old, I believe when he saw it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that he lived in an area of Washington
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  Speaker 1: where there was a lot of cattle ranches around. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so he just said it was big and hairy like
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  Speaker 1: the cows and it smelled like the cows. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's no different than the little boy in
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina saying the bear fed him and gave him
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  Speaker 1: berries and kept him or fed him berries and kept
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  Speaker 1: him warm. I mean, he just, that's what his brain
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  Speaker 1: reverted to. That's what he knew. So pretty much from
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  Speaker 1: what we gathered from the story last night, I believe
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  Speaker 1: it was a Bigfoot. And he was just calling it
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  Speaker 1: the cow man. And that's just what, what stuck. You know,
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  Speaker 1: skunk ape, cow man, uh, honey Island swamp monster, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Falk monster, Momo. Yeah. Wow. I think it's just a colloquialism.
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  Speaker 2: It is. I think so too, but of course, as
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  Speaker 2: soon as I saw the title, I was thinking like
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  Speaker 2: a cow humanoid.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I thought when you first sent the
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  Speaker 1: show notes. Then I got to read them. I was like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I get what this is now. But I actually watched
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  Speaker 1: the movie today. I was actually watching it when you
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  Speaker 1: texted me. There's a lot of movies that are based
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  Speaker 1: on a lot of the reports and things that we
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  Speaker 1: that we, talk about this is what it is it's
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  Speaker 1: a cheap B movie but they changed some things but
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  Speaker 1: it stuck almost beat for beat with with the story
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  Speaker 1: and it was for what it was it was a Actually,
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  Speaker 1: a really decent movie. I'm going to check that one out.
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  Speaker 1: It's on Tubi. If you've got Tubi, anybody in the
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  Speaker 1: chat want to go check it out? It's called Something
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  Speaker 1: in the Woods. There's a few names that are the
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  Speaker 1: same in the movie that were in the story. There's
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  Speaker 1: some names that they changed, which the names in the
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  Speaker 1: story were pseudonyms anyway. It clearly states that because they
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  Speaker 1: didn't want their names out there, which also lends credence
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  Speaker 1: to the story because they were looking for 15 minutes
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  Speaker 1: of fame. Why did they want their names changed? So, hey, Tyler.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. That's true, too, man. I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to have to check that movie out. And what
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  Speaker 2: did they refer to in the movie? Was it more
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  Speaker 2: like a Bigfoot, they thought, or did they ever say?
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  Speaker 1: No. Well, yeah, it was completely Bigfoot in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: They never even mentioned the term cowman. It says it
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  Speaker 1: at the start of the movie based on true story
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  Speaker 1: or based on actual events, I think is how it said.
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  Speaker 1: But they never used the term cowman in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: They actually used the term Bigfoot, but they set the
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  Speaker 1: movie just a little bit forward. I think the movie
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  Speaker 1: they said it was in and the, the main guy
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  Speaker 1: who was, or not the main guy, but the, the
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  Speaker 1: guy I assume that was SD Baker, who, who is
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  Speaker 1: the one that, uh, first put the story out there.
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  Speaker 1: And you, you kind of watch the story. If anybody
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  Speaker 1: in the chat didn't watch, I'll give you a brief
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  Speaker 1: synopsis of the story. The story actually happened to a
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  Speaker 1: family and they, the, the dad's name was John. And
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  Speaker 1: then the little boy, uh, I, I think they called it...
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  Speaker 1: They said his name was Caleb. And that's the name
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  Speaker 1: that was in the movie. Or no, I'm sorry. That's
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  Speaker 1: the older boy that they said. The younger boy was Jacob.
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  Speaker 1: And then Caleb. But in the story, it was John Jr.
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  Speaker 1: Because he was the oldest son. He was named after
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  Speaker 1: the dad. According to the story, anyway. But Baker was
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  Speaker 1: a kid and had... Was hanging around his dad's logging
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  Speaker 1: company or whatever. And he would hear... John telling these stories,
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  Speaker 1: but dad wouldn't let him hear the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: story because he didn't want him to scare the woods
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  Speaker 1: and didn't want him hearing this as a kid. So
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  Speaker 1: later on, he finally got his dad to tell him
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  Speaker 1: the story when he was an adult because dad was
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  Speaker 1: actually involved in the story. So the story goes that
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  Speaker 1: the little boy, the youngest kid, he hears something, looks up,
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  Speaker 1: sees this giant reddish brown creature hung in a top
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  Speaker 1: strand of a barbed wire fence. calls his mom. Mom
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  Speaker 1: comes out and he says, cow man's up there. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Describes the smell of wet
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  Speaker 1: dog and rotten meat. We've heard that before. Mom looks
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  Speaker 1: up and all she sees is top strand of the
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  Speaker 1: fence shaking, but she smells the smell. You've already got
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  Speaker 1: two stories that two independent encounters that are not Dependent
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  Speaker 1: on one another. So the older boy is coming home
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  Speaker 1: from a friend's house. And as he's coming home, walking
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  Speaker 1: down this trail in the movies, riding a bike and
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  Speaker 1: the story, it says he's walking. He gets paced by something.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't ever see what it is, but something he says
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  Speaker 1: is big. And it sounds like a big man because
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  Speaker 1: here's a lot of big sticks breaking on the ground
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  Speaker 1: and then in the tree line. And it stops as
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  Speaker 1: soon as he gets to their driveway. dad comes home.
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  Speaker 1: They tell dad, he don't, you know, he don't really
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  Speaker 1: buy into it. But, uh, mom says, well, I, I
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  Speaker 1: saw the top strand of the wire shaking where the
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  Speaker 1: little boy said it was. And we both smelled this
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  Speaker 1: weird smell. So dad takes the oldest boy goes out
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  Speaker 1: and they actually find a clump of hair around that
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  Speaker 1: top strand of barbed wire. And it was so tangled
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  Speaker 1: up that dad had to take his buck knife and
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  Speaker 1: cut it off and And says that there was some
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  Speaker 1: biological tissue still attached to the hair. Now, here's the
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  Speaker 1: caveat to all this.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, he was not in cryptozoology detection mode. He
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  Speaker 1: was in protect my family mode. So, none of this
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  Speaker 1: stuff was preserved. There was no pictures ever taken of
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  Speaker 1: any tracks that were found or any of that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff like that. But he wasn't in that. And,
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  Speaker 1: of course, this is in the 60s. And what we
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  Speaker 1: do now was not a big thing back then. But
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  Speaker 1: he takes the hair, takes it back to the house.
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  Speaker 1: There's a few more encounters. There's an encounter, I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember if it was that night or later. Oh, let
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  Speaker 1: me back up. Him and the older son go on
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  Speaker 1: into the woods after they find the hair, and Dad
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  Speaker 1: actually sees something. He sees it walking on all fours,
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  Speaker 1: but then he sees it stand up, and he describes
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  Speaker 1: that he thought it was a bear, and obviously when
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  Speaker 1: he saw the hair at first, first thing went to
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  Speaker 1: his mind, he said, oh, that's off a horse's tail
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  Speaker 1: or a horse's mane. So he wasn't, he wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: trying to speculate that this was something, you know, spectacular or,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was just looking for, for actual, you know,
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  Speaker 1: known creatures that could explain this stuff. So they get
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  Speaker 1: in the woods, he sees something, he automatically thinks it's
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  Speaker 1: a black bear until it stands up and he sees
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  Speaker 1: what he describes as a human-like arm or a a
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  Speaker 1: big hairy arm reach out with a human like hand
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  Speaker 1: and grabs a hold of what he described as like
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  Speaker 1: a four foot Adler tree or Alder tree. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: And grabs a hold of the tree and starts shaking
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  Speaker 1: it and ends up snapping the tree about five and
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  Speaker 1: a half feet off the ground. I think is what
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  Speaker 1: it said. So he tells, he tells older boy, he
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  Speaker 1: said he thought it might be a, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: homeless guy, a vagrant, something like that. Cause he still
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  Speaker 1: hadn't got a good look at it at this point
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  Speaker 1: other than, the hand, he tells the older boy to
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  Speaker 1: take off running back to the house. Well, the older
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  Speaker 1: boy takes off. He gets across the barbed wire fence
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  Speaker 1: and just kind of stops in the field. Dad didn't
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  Speaker 1: know this. He's got a. 357 Magnum with him. He
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  Speaker 1: tries to call the thing out, and I think that's
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  Speaker 1: when it snapped the tree. So he fires a shot. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it takes off running. So at first he thinks it's
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  Speaker 1: just running back in the woods, and he turns around
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  Speaker 1: and looks and notices that it's running parallel to where
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  Speaker 1: he just sent his son. So he takes off running.
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  Speaker 1: gets back, sees his son standing there, tells him, get
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  Speaker 1: to the house, get to the house. Boy takes off,
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  Speaker 1: turns around, takes off running. He's trying to catch up
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  Speaker 1: to him. This thing breaks out of the wood line,
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  Speaker 1: comes up, runs up behind the kid, hits the kid
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  Speaker 1: and knocks him about 10 feet. I think it said
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  Speaker 1: kid never saw what saw it or saw what hit him.
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  Speaker 1: He just knows he went flying. So is it, but it,
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  Speaker 1: kind of veered off after it knocked him down. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he turns around and pretty much dumps the cylinder. The
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  Speaker 1: other five shots from the. 357 Magnum doesn't say whether
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  Speaker 1: he hit it or not. He just, you know, dumped
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the rounds towards it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God. He hit a dump.
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  Speaker 1: He hit a Magnum. He did a Magnum without the mag.
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  Speaker 1: He did a cylinder dump.
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  Speaker 2: He did a cylinder dump for a homer.
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  Speaker 1: And he gets to his son. Son's okay. They get up,
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  Speaker 1: go off back to the house. Dad's kind of shaking.
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  Speaker 1: The son's shaking. Mom, you know, they all talk about it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and I think this was later that night. They start
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  Speaker 1: hearing this, as they described it, howls. Okay. And then
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  Speaker 1: later on, the little boy sees something outside his window.
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  Speaker 1: And it supposedly like drug its hand across the window.
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  Speaker 1: So he tells mom and dad next morning. They go
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  Speaker 1: out and he sees the marks on the window. So
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  Speaker 1: kind of shorten this out so it don't take up
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  Speaker 1: the whole show with this. I'm enjoying this. His brother
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  Speaker 1: comes out, his brother comes out, they find an 18
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  Speaker 1: inch track. Um, then, uh, the, the Baker's dad, who's
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  Speaker 1: telling Baker the story, he comes out after they had
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: left the house after things kind of got even worse.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: They come back the next day and the house is
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: totally ransacked.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Now I think this is in the sixties. They have
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: one of those big, big TVs. TV is picked up
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and thrown across the room.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Like a heavy one.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Those things are not too many. Not too many people
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: going to, you know, pick one of those things up
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and toss it across the room. Refrigerators tossed. The house
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: is just totally a wreck. So this guy's dad actually
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: goes out and sees that too. Um, So at this point,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, we're done.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: We're moving.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: We're leaving. We're getting out of here. This guy's brother
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: had come out, and he had seen all this stuff, too.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: So they ended up leaving and going in, moving in
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: with his brother, but they had called an insurance adjuster, supposedly.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And the adjuster come out, and he blamed the dad.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: He said, you did this. You got drunk. and got
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: mad at your wife and you tossed your house. Now
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you're trying to get it paid for. Whatever. It's a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: very compelling story. There's a lot of stuff that if
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you would just have gotten one of those accounts would
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: be interesting enough to you know, to go investigate, but
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you start putting it all together, it starts really tying
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in nicely, but there again, like I said, the caveat,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: none of the stuff, you know, there's no pictures, there's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: no police, they never called the police, there's no record
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of whether or not they actually did file a claim,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that's what the story says, but the adjuster says, nah,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you did this, don't know where the hair is, the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: hair sample, there was never a photograph of the of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the track or, you know, anything to show the scale.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: There was no cast made or any of that kind
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of stuff. So, you know, but like I said, he
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: wasn't in, I need to, I need to take this
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: evidence mode. He was in, I need to protect my
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: family mode. But it was, it's actually a really interesting story.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: And like I said, if you, if you listen to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: our show and hear the whole story and then watch
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the movie, if you've never watched it, you're, you're going
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: to be like, wow, they, they pretty much tracked it
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: almost beat for beat. With some changes, but it was,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: they moved it, excuse me, it happened in Washington, but
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: they moved it to Texas and said it was taking
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: place in Texas. But I mean, other than changing a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: few names, changing the location, pretty spot on. Wow.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Well, that's incredible. Listen, I love hearing stories like this.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: And so in my mind, I was seeing a humanoid cow.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So thank goodness it's not a humanoid cow. It's a Bigfoot.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Like I said, the movie never even used the term
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: cow man. And I think it's just a little boy
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: defaulting to what he knew.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Well, it was amongst the cows, right?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: What was it? In a pasture.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, cows are known. Not cows. Bigfoot are known.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And dog men, too. They're known to go hang out
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: in herds of animals and stuff like wolf packs, coyotes.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: And cows, you know, that investigation I just did about
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: about two weeks ago now, two weeks of today, two
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: weeks ago today that it was on a farm and
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: that the cows are being affected. The horses are being affected.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: The chickens were definitely being affected. They were getting taken
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and stuff. You know, I got to update that. I'll
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: go ahead and tell the audience. I do have an
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: update on that. The the homeowner called me this week
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and said that her neighbor, her next door neighbor. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: these are. This is large property. OK, so it's not
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: like next door, like super close. But her neighbor, her
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: chickens had been going missing. And one night recently, like
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: five of her chickens were gone and taken out of
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the chicken coop out of eight. She said five out
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: of eight were taken and there was like piles of
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: feathers in there. That was all that was left. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and so she didn't know that there had been some
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: investigators over at the neighbor's house.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I.e.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Myself and Kelly, one of my homegirls, investigating with me.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: But she said that even like part of the coop
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: had been smashed in down at the bottom. So like
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: something huge and heavy, like they said it was like
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: a real heavy piece of metal, like a piece of tin,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: but it's like thick. She said that it was actually
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: dented in down at the bottom. And so something big
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: was getting her chickens out of there, she said.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's an interesting fact. If they added into
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the movie, they added... neighbor into the movie and the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: neighbor was happy to hear about it. And he had
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: lost some chickens and they added, uh, the guy had pigs,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the main character, and it got two of his pigs. And, uh,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Kim was talking about it there. It turned out that
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: there was, if the movie, the big twist was there
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: were two of them. Um, it never, it never states
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: that in the, in the story, because I mean, I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: could have been in a lot of things, a lot
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: of things would have made sense if there was, more
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: than one of them, but it never expressly says that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the family saw more than one at a time anyway.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Dang, that's what I find out pretty often, especially doing
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: these remote viewing targets to some of these cryptids. I remember,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it started with the Jersey Devil,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: but when I was doing this, I was given that
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: as a remote viewing target. I was seeing all these
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: different types of things, like creatures and stuff, and I
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: think that there's never just one.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Like you hear about, even with Patty, there's not just
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: one Patty, there's one Patty, but there were a bunch
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: of Bigfoots out there most likely.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and it's, it was all the, you know,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: take the Michigan Dogmen for instance, like the Beast of
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Bray Road. There's a bunch of Beasts on Bray Road.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: A bunch.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't, I don't think there's, I think you
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: see one, that's the one you see. You don't see
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: any others.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, No, that's right. Werecows. I've been seeing that
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: in the chat. We've been talking about werecows. Werdiers. Last night,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Ed and I were talking about werdiers yesterday, I think. Okay,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: who's in the chat right here? Everything could be a were. Okay,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: a were. That sounds weird. Werewolves. Werecats, you know. Actually,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: what we're talking about tonight, Robbie, is in the same
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: vicinity of these werecats in Missouri, by the way.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So it's close to Drury-Metzi?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: It is. I guess so. It's actually near Kansas City, okay,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: which is actually kind of north of there, I believe.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that– and I'm not trying to make
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: like I'm some big expert on Missouri. I've been there
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: quite a bit. Been there quite a bit, hanging out
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: with DA and Doc. Drury-Metzi, it's on Table Rock Lake,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: but Table Rock– no, that might be on Lake of
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: those Arks. Anyway, Drury Mitzi is where there supposedly is
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: some type of upright feline type creature. And that's where
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Missouri Game and Fish supposedly engaged and fired shots on
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: these things. Oh, yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Well, that's, I think, so I think that's a little bit,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: because we talked about the Mark Twain National Forest, I believe,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: and that's like a little bit further south than where
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about today, but it's still
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: in the same state. Okay.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: And I will tell you from experience, Missouri is a very,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: very strange state. I have never gone to Missouri and
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: not had some kind of crazy encounter.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Really? Man, the Ozarks, they never disappoint. You know, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: had Eric here on the show on Saturday, and he
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: was giving us an update on the activity at his house.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: He believes he has, like, Ozark Howlers, multiples, and also
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Werecats and Dogmen. And Bigfoot, too. But, I mean, we
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: already knew about the Bigfoot. But we got into a
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: good discussion on that Saturday night. because all of those things,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's up with the Ozarks. He's talking
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: about how they've got the oldest mountain range in the world.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I know the Appalachians are the oldest mountain range in
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: the world, but he said that they're actually kind of
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: separated from the Appalachians, so they're originally part of that
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: mountain range, he said.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Appalachians, like you said, are the oldest.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I think the Ozarks are probably right behind.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think, too.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: They're pretty old, but but you know, the Appalachians aren't anything,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: any kind of joke either. There's some weird stuff up
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: here too.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: They ain't no joke.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's our area.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They ain't no joke. That's for sure. And, uh,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you know, I was actually thinking today, like I was
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: in deep, I always have deep thoughts when I'm sitting here,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: you know, my son's in school again, Ben went back
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: to school. So I have some quiet time occasionally now. And, uh,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: and I was sitting here, you know, working on the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: show and stuff for tonight. And I was, uh, I
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: was thinking, I was like, why do I do what
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I do? I was like, oh, I don't know. Am
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I not scared to die? I know that sounds terrible,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: but I really started thinking about that because it doesn't
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: even cross my mind.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: My mom asked me that every time. Every time I'm
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: up there talking to my dad about where I'm going
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and what I'm going to be doing, she was like,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: what is wrong with you? I'm like, what do you mean?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get paid to get shot at every
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: day at work anyway. I mean, it's.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. You are a police officer. I forgot
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: to mention that in your intro. You are a law
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: enforcement official and amongst many other things, of course, but
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: an author, a researcher. And I feel safe with you
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: out in the woods. I do. But I was thinking, like,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: do I just have no self? Like, I have all
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the awareness out there. I really do.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But it's like, eh.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: It's almost like I just don't, if you don't let
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: that get into your head, it's all in your mind too,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: by the way, it really is. If you let it
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: creep into your mind that like something's going to eat
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: you out there, something probably will eat you out there.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe that's what it is. I don't know.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I don't probably, I don't, I'm not going to be
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: a tasty snack. I don't know. Maybe I would be,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: but I don't think I don't look at it like that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I like this. I like this comment. Steamboat, Texas. If
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: you wear leather, you wear cows.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: That is a good one. That's funny.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yes. We all wear cows occasionally. Some of us have
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: cows in our vehicles. wear cows. Good Lord.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Well, anyways, well, we, we have, uh, this really interesting
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: cryptid to talk about tonight. Uh, you know, I wanted
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: to show a map in case people, cause we have
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: a very international audience. I just discovered that, uh, I have,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I actually have a lot of people from all over
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: every single continent, all over the world, except for Antarctica.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: That's not listed. Uh, But all the other ones, I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: bet they watch, but they're just hidden. It doesn't say Antarctica. Yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sure all the Antarcticans watch my show, I'm sure.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: But anyways, we have a very international audience. So if
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: you guys are not familiar with Missouri or Missouri, some
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: people call it. This is where we're kind of focused
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: around Kansas City. Now, it actually sits in between Kansas
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: and Missouri, right in the middle of the United States area.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And I actually have some more maps. I wanted to
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: show kind of the landscape out there and maybe as
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: to give us a good clue as to why there's
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: so much activity out there. And they do have the
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Missouri River that runs right through Kansas City, by the way.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: And I don't think I must not have uploaded the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: topographical map that I had. But but let's take my
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: word for it. I think we can actually see on
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: this map. There is that, that line that goes through
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Kansas city and then down kind of like South through
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the state to the East. That's, I think that's the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Missouri river right there.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: A big one. It's a big one. And, and, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: so this is where we're talking about last Saturday night,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: we were talking about Springfield. Okay. That's the area that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: we were kind of discussing. And, and to the right
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: of that is where Mark Twain national forest is. Okay. And,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and that's where all the where cat activity is and,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: And Eric lives in that general vicinity somewhere.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: And so we're pretty far north from there tonight with
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the Baiman monster. All right. Baiman monster. But however, let's see.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: We do have some newspaper articles on this. Tales of Sedalia.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: And I say Sedalia because it looks like Vidalia or Vidalia.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: In Georgia, we have a town called Vidalia. And that's
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: where all the Vidalia onions come from. In case you're wondering,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the sweet, juicy, delicious onions. They're my favorite. And yes,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: we have that. It's down near where I used to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: go to college in South Georgia. So Sadea, Beeman monster,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the tales of the Sadea Beeman monster still linger. And
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: so this thing has been around since at least the 1900s, Robbie,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: at least. And some people say, of course, with any cryptid,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: there's going to be controversy. There's going to be people
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: that say that never existed. There's no evidence of it,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: but actually there is, there has been evidence. Could I
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: find pictures of footprints online and track lines? Absolutely not.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I couldn't, um, doesn't say it does. That doesn't mean
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: there aren't, it's not real though. Okay.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Um, but what does that say? The absence of proof
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: is not proof of absence.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: That's very true. I like that. I like that.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Well, it says absence of proof is not proof of absence.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: You know what? I was just thinking I should have
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: gone over to, and we can, we can still do it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I need to find out what the county is. And
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: if we can figure out what county this is in,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I can go to bfro.net. We can pull up all
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoot sightings reports out of that county. So I
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: will do that in just a few minutes. How about that?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: And we'll get a good idea of what kind of
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: reports we're getting out of this area throughout the years,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: as long as the BFRO has been reporting out of there. OK,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: so listen, the Kansas City has its share. This whole
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: area has its share of really strange cryptids, including like
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: mothman type creatures, Bigfoot, dogman sightings, the werecats and things
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: that are flying almost like pterodactyls and stuff. I mean,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I actually have seen some reports of those out of
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: this area. So let's see. Let me get the right
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: in my right notes here. And we're going to dive
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: into this. And then we're going to get into the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: remote viewing data of this. Because the question is, is
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: this thing real? Is it just a made-up story to
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: keep kids scared to go in the woods, Robbie? Does
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it have ties to circuses and trains that are wrecking?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: First of all, before we get into this conversation, Robbie,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: how many cryptids are the result of trains that flipped
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: over back in the 1900s?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: All of them? This one seems a lot.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: It's so weird. Do you think, I mean, it's almost
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: like a concerted effort to like, it's just weird. Is
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: it true?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know how the concept of the circus ever
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: got off the ground. Cause there were so many circus
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: trains wrecked in that time. And, you know, and every
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: one of them that wrecked seemed like a wild man
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: of Borneo escaped. I don't want that. Borneo must've been
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: covered up with them. Cause yeah, I mean, how.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Did, like, the bearded lady not ever escape? And, like,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of, like, maybe that's how Bigfoots are,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe they procreated with Bigfoots, too. I don't know.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: That's just weird.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: A wild man of Borneo and a bearded lady, I guess.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Bearded ladies. I don't know. Well, that would be kind
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: of weird. I don't know.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why the wild man of Borneo escaped, because
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to have to deal with the bearded
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: ladies anymore.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I tell you what. All right. Well, listen,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I have some really interesting information to pull up tonight
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: on the circuses that were around at this time. Listen,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get to the bottom of these circus
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: trains wrecking.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: And so I actually found some websites where you can
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: track all of the map. I mean, it maps out
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: all the circuses from the, I mean, all the way
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: back to like the early 1800s. And you just pick
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: like your year. And I got the time frame. It's
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: like 1900 to like 1906 or something. I can't remember.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: But we're going to take a dive into this a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: little bit tonight. I think it's fascinating because we're all
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: these trains. I mean, can we find evidence that these
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: trains really wrecked? That's my question. I don't know. What
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: is that one in Tennessee? It's like Werewolf Springs, I think.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: That one. Dixon County.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Dixon County. That's right. I think that it will do
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: us some justice to actually dig into newspaper articles. Now,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: there were newspaper articles for that one. I remember covering that.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: And I do believe that really happened. But this one
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: right here, I don't know. So that's why I have
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: several tabs open on my computer right now to pull
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: these things up to show the audience. Okay, well, let's see.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: So this actually, and here's another really strange thing about this.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: It actually revolves around a circus train that wrecked and
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: a 12 foot tall gorilla that escaped. Now we know
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: a little something about gorillas, don't we, Robbie? I mean,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I know I used to go visit Willie B in
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the Atlanta zoo when I was a kid. And I
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: think they average like six feet maybe at the tallest.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're not that big. 12 feet would be
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: really big for a gorilla.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably the bigger ones. Yeah. Most, most silverbacks that I've,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that I've heard it, you know, it's usually average of five,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: five and a half feet, I guess six probably on the,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: on the bigger side of the scale, but yeah, 12
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: is kind of for the mountain gorilla. That's kind of
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: pushing it even for a lowlands gorilla. Cause I think
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: they're a little bit bigger sometimes than the Highland gorillas.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, the mountain gorillas.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I just saw Bruce, Bruce's comment. Jeez, Bruce. Thanks. That's funny.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: He said he used to have to buy tickets to
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the fair to see the bearded woman. Now just go
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: to Walmart. Oh, man. I just saw your comment and
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I pulled it up without even reading it, Bruce. That
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: is funny. That's funny. Okay. You know, I'm glad I
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: shaved today, by the way. I'm just kidding. Okay.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: So. Okay.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: So this actually revolves around a train crash from 1904.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: And where they say that several animals that were in
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: a circus that was traveling through Kansas City. uh with
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: animals aboard and all the sideshow people and everything it
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: crashed a 12 foot tall gorilla escaped many people believe
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: the beeman monster was really the offspring of this escaped
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: gorilla but see we got to get through the idea
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: and like figure out like we got to break this
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: down about how is there a 12 foot gorilla now
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: could it have been a back in those days there
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: were giants still right i mean there were still giants
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: around here and people didn't question them as much you
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: know if So there could have been like a, I'm
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: not saying, or it could have been a Bigfoot.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Could have been a Bigfoot, maybe. But here's the thing
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: about it. It didn't look, okay, so that's why they
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: say it's the offspring of something like that. Because this
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: creature we're talking about tonight doesn't look like a Bigfoot.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: It's similar to a Bigfoot, but it has the face
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: of a dog or a wolf. But here's the thing, too. Like,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I don't believe Bigfoot and Dogman exist. canine species are
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: going to be able to procreate. How is that going
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: to be hybrid? I don't know. I'm not an expert
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Well, you know my thoughts and theory about what I
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: think it possibly could be. The term Bigfoot was not
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: even close to being coined at that point. That didn't
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: come around until the 50s. 50s. It would have different names,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: but it could have possibly been a Gugway.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking, Robbie. That's what I was thinking.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: We're going to go there, too. Just a second. Okay,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: so A lot of this. Okay, so many believe the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Beeman monster was really the offspring of this escaped gorilla.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: But I just don't see a 12 foot tall gorilla
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: being real. But anyways, so there is actually a hunt
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: that happened. So apparently there were like a lot of
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: sightings of this thing back in the 1950s. So what
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: did the guys do? They probably drank some moonshine and
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: some liquor and they probably got their guns and their
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: fellas together. And they formed a posse. man, I'd love
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to go on a posse, man. I think actually I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: have been on posses. I just didn't call it that.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: But they got a posse together in the 1950s and
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: people were, they were, quote, carrying all sorts of shotguns
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: and stuff. Now that also happens quite often. It definitely
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: happened in the 1950s and before that, probably through the
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: 1960s and 70s, where people were getting posses together to
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: go hunt down werewolves, Bigfoot, uh, wild men, whatever, some
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: stuff that was, uh, killing their livestock. And this is
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: no different. Uh, so they say that, uh, whenever, whenever
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: these things would like get out of hand, they would
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: pretty much call up the posse and like, they would
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: go look for this thing, but they never found it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Uh, some people claim that this is actually just a
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: made up story since they never found a body. We've
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: still haven't found a Bigfoot body. Technically, um, people have, exactly.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: But but they say that there was nothing was ever found.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: So I think it was just like one of those
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: cautionary tales that parents would tell their kids. We're like, hey,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: you know, don't go in the woods at night. I mean,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I got it when I was a kid. We had
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: raw head and bloody bones and we had Mad Mod
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: in the woods. We also had the little boy in
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the wall. I couldn't escape because he would be in
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: the wall at my grandparents house.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: But well, you've heard me tell it in my story.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: My great grandmother used to tell me all the time
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: when I go play in the woods, don't you go
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: too far in the woods and boogers will get you.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Back then, I didn't know boogers was a term for
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot back then. You know, that's just, but she never
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: would elaborate on what that meant. I just thought she,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you know, like you just said, I just thought she's
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: trying to scare me so I didn't go too far
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: away from the house. And then, you know, fast forward
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: to my sighting and now knowing what I know, you
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: start thinking and pulling these threads together and you're like, hmm,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: maybe she knew more than Then she told me.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: She did. She probably, she might have. I mean, my,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: my grandparents, especially my granddaddy, he was really into playing
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: jokes on us all the time. He was hilarious. He,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I don't even think he meant to be funny, but
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: he was always funny. And, but when he would say
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: stuff like that, he was, I mean, I kind of,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: it kind of straddled the fence of like, is he
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: being serious or is he joking? You know? And, and
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: so I never left. I never went into the woods
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: at night at their house. I also was terrified to
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: go to bed because he would start knocking on the
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: walls in the middle of the night and having like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: a little boy voice. He'd be like, help, I'm.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Stuck in the wall.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I can't get out. I would wake up to that.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Sometimes at my grandparents' house. So shout out to my granddaddy, Henry.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: He's in heaven. Watching me right now talking about him,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: probably laughing. But anyways, so this is a big time
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: cautionary tale for kids to But I don't know. Maybe
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: they need they need it. OK, maybe they had bad
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: kids living in that town, too. But OK, so a
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: 29 year old Sadiya native, Damon Smith, claimed to have
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: seen the creature and described it as something like a
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: coyote or a wolf. He saw it when he was
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: around 10 years old. He was riding in his uncle's
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: pickup truck and a wolf wolf shaped creature emerged from
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the woods. It started running on the sides of the vehicle.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: So it was like running up next to his truck.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: The uncle told him that it was the Beeman legend.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: And he had not heard anybody speak of that before.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: And he hadn't really heard about it since. But he
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: said it wasn't quite animalistic. He said it's hard to
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: explain unless you've seen it. And that's how this thing
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: is actually described, is that it has a very human-like face.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: It has like a muzzle on its face, almost like
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: a werewolf or something. It looks like a Bigfoot. In
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: the body. It's got like kind of longer hair on it.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: But it's face has like a longer. Like a muzzle.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Like a dog. But it also looks human. That sounds weird.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: To me it sounds like a werewolf or something. Or
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: a Gugwe. We're going to pull up pictures of a Gugwe.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: In case nobody knows what a Gugwe is. My audience knows.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: My regulars. We know what a Gugwe is. So the
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Smith guy. He remembered a pig being mauled to death.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: In the back in the past, he said that there
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: were no signs of any kind of like predator around it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: They didn't find any tracks around it or anything. And
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: another time, a dark figure moved across the woods during
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: a thunderstorm. He said it was one of those things.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: He thought it was a figment of his imagination. But
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: but he said that he knew he knows there's something
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: else out there is what this guy says. So there
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: have been reports of footprints. And there's a fella named Steve.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: He was around 41 years old when they took this report.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: He said that he grew up near, uh, Smithton. That
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: must be close by there, I guess. But he saw
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: something when he was about 12 years old. He and
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: his friend went behind their, his friend's parents' house to
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: go dig up worms. And, uh, it was spring. He
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: said the grass was wet and it looked like a
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: deer had laid down on the ground right there. You
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: could see it from the dew had been disturbed. And, uh,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: They noticed some footprints. He said there were huge footprints.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: They followed them down to the pond and they got spooked.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: He said they were so big. The footprints were so big.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: He didn't say how many inches they were. He said
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the stride was so big. There's no way it could
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: have been a human. And for the audience, if you're
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: not familiar with stride, when you're tracking and stuff, you
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: measure between the footprints. Okay, basically. That's the layman's terms.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: The... back of the heel from the furthest track to
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the front of the toes on the second track. That's
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: your stride length.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yep. Well, they said that, um, he said that
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: they think that they, okay. So they said they, they,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: they know this guy said that he knows this, this
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Bayman monster exists, whatever.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: So there's another fellow who's around 65 years old, say
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: his name is Jerry and Sadea. He was in high
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: school in 1957 or 1958. And he said when Broadway
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Boulevard was widened to four lanes. Now, here we go
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: with the growth and tearing up their environments out there.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: He said it was about the same time the technology
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: came along that used strobe lights for construction. They put
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: them on those orange buckets or whatever. I don't know
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: what you call those things. And barrels were And they
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: have those strobe lights out there. Oh, my God. This
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: is interesting because he said that I think some of
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: the kids or somebody had taken, some teenagers had taken
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: one of those construction barrels. And it had the blinkers
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: on it. And so they had flashing lights. They covered
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: it with brush and they hid it in a field.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: And so they were driving out there and it was flashing.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: So people were saying, oh, those are the lights of
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: their eyes of the bowmen, you know, cryptid out there.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: And so it was kind of like a they did
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: it as like a joke. And so people were like, oh,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: it's just it's always teenagers playing tricks on the on
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: the community. Basically, none of this is real. It's a
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: bunch of teenagers playing tricks on people. I don't know
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: about you, but I have recently been contacted by multiple people. OK,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: and by multiple, I just mean like more than one.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: It could be like two or three. But but there's
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: one one person just contacted me and sent me a video.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: of what they suspect is a dog man. And, uh,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: and these eyes are like following them through the woods
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: and stuff and they're bright green.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: And they kind of fly. You see when the eyes
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: like blink and stuff, I'm sure you've seen the video.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say who it is live right now, but,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: but it's, it's pretty compelling to me.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: You've seen Maggie's video, right?
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, I have. Yeah.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: That's, that's almost exactly what happened to Maggie and her daughter.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I have talked to Maggie. I didn't know Maggie until recently. Um,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: we just, we just talked. So, uh, but I find that,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I find that pretty compelling considering that I have seen
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the self-illuminated eye glow kind of thing. Ed's in the chat.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I was with Ed and David and all them. And, uh,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: and so I, I have kind of seen that it
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: wasn't that bright though.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Like some of this eye shine is really bright and, uh,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: and it does, it does listen. They have an excuse.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Like this teenagers did that and they put these blinking
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: lights out there in the field or did they? Okay.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Or did they? Maybe that's just an excuse.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: We will not know. But let's see. So this is
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: a big part of their local legends and lore, of course.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: And let's get into the physical description of what this
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: thing is. So it's large, bipedal. It has the head
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: resembling a wolf and a body that resembles a gorilla.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: It has long, shaggy hair covering its bodies. Its eyes
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: are described as being bright and piercing. They are around
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: seven to nine feet tall. And they say it probably
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: weighs about 500 pounds. I'd say it probably weighs more
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: than that, but I don't know. It depends on how
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: big it is. And it says the arms are longer
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: than its legs, which are very much like a Bigfoot.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: But it's been reported to have a powerful grip. I
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: don't know how they know that, but okay. And witnesses
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: have reported that the Bayman emits a strong musky odor
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: and is capable of emitting a loud guttural growl and
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: some howls. So here's the thing, like, some of the
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: dog man investigations that I've done, like where I've gone
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: and camped out in the middle of where they got
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: attacked and all that kind of stuff, it usually ends
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: up being Bigfoot, aggressive Bigfoot. Okay. So that may be
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: what they're dealing with out here. Of course, the question
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: is like, is this real or is it not? I mean,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's probably real, first of all.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Bigfoots are everywhere, right?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Same logic that we applied last night. You know, think
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: of the timeframe that this happened. It, you know, there
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: was no internet, there was no, you know, seeing what,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: what this person across the country had said and thinking, Hmm,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make that up and make that around here. And,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: you know, when people said stuff back then, you know,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: most people took it, took it on face value because
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: your word was your bond back then.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: So it still is to me.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Right. But it's not, but not like it was back then. Yeah.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: And you know, that was my word to my balls. Yeah.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: People wouldn't take a chance on saying stuff. I don't have,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: unless they actually were, I mean, I'm not saying everybody,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: but for the most part, you know, it's, you know,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: people that wouldn't take the chance on saying stuff like that,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: if I didn't think or didn't believe what they were saying.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Exactly. You know, and, and it's, uh, it is,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: it's a, it was a, if you saw it, I mean,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: people's lives would be destroyed if they reported on something.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: And it was like, I mean, you're going to look
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: crazy no matter what, but especially back then before there
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: was like support groups, so to speak on like Bigfoot
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: sightings and dogman encounters and stuff. Uh, back then, I mean,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: look how ostracized people got like Albert Osman and All
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: the guys that came forward about the ape cannon attack
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: back in the 1920s. And we're talking about some of
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: the first sightings were back in the early 1900s. Okay,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: early 1900s. They said that's actually back when that train crashed.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: The 12-foot gorilla. How'd they get a 12-foot gorilla in
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: a train car, too? What's up with that?
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Very carefully.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: He had to sit. Well, they used to call it
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Indian style. Now it's called something different. But yeah, he
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: smushed up in there, I guess. That would make for
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: a good remote viewing target right there, whatever that 12-foot
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: gorilla was. But, okay. So, 79 feet tall, about 500 pounds,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: and it stunk. It was funky. It was a little
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: funky thing. And they say that it has been compared
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: to either a Bigfoot or a Wolfman. That's where the
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: question's coming in now. Like, what is this, Robbie? Is
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: it a Bigfoot? Is it a Wolfman? Is it a werewolf?
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Is it a... I don't know, whatever. It could be
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: a dog man. It could be a dog man too.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Could be all of it. Cause it could be multiple
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: creatures in this area as well. And people are all just,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: they're all putting that label. It's just like when we
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: talk about when I, when I was learning like this
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: remote viewing stuff that I do, it's like, you don't
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: label stuff.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Like don't label it. And it's, it's everything. It's all
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: of it. Okay. And, and I think that's the case.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: It could be the case with this, but let's get
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: into the Wolfman side of it. I think this is important.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: So Bigfoot are typically reported taller than the B-man. And
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: with longer hair and more human-like appearance, the Wolfman, on
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: the other hand, is typically reported as having more canine
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: and a snout. And that's kind of how this thing
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: has been reported. Almost like human-like with a kind of
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: a snout. Okay, now we do know that there are
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Gugwe out there. Now, here's the thing about this though. Okay,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: if this were a Gugwe, Robby, Don't you think it'd
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: be like violent and like, you know, I don't know.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the missing persons stats are up
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: there too, though. You know what I mean? I could
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: pull that map up that my favorite person made. Let's see.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Hold on. Here we go. Well, let's see. We're looking
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: in Missouri. Hold on. I don't think there's a missing
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: persons cluster up there though. There's not. There's no missing
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: people clusters up there. That's an old map, though, too.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are some. And here's the thing, though,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: and we've always pointed this out. That's only people who
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: are reported.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: True.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Think about the transient population that has nobody to report them.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, if there's nobody to report them, how many?
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Because NAM USA reports that I think it's numbers like 600,000
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: people a year go missing. But that number is probably under,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: under sold because if there's nobody to report all these
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: transient populations that live in the woods and, you know,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the old hobo camps as you used to call them,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and they go missing, you know, as law enforcement,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: we don't see them anymore. We think they just moved
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: on to a different area.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Well, let me pull up. Okay, look, we got the
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: cave systems, too. Let's see if there's any caves up there.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to blow my screen up here.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, they got a little bit of cave. Missouri's got
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of caves. Oh, my gosh. I think Missouri's
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: second only to Tennessee. Tennessee's got the most caves in
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the country, I believe. Missouri's right there.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Robbie, I had no idea. Wow. I had to blow
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: up my screen for that one. They're all caves. It's
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: like Tennessee is like one big cave. Yep. The whole
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: state is a bunch of caves. So is Missouri. Wow.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. Maybe, you know what? That could definitely explain
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: why there's so many cryptids out there. So many weird things.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: You know, we started working on that theory about three
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: years ago. Now, all of a sudden... all these bigger
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: channels than our two channels combined are talking about this
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: theory and putting these videos out that are getting, you know, 700, 800,000
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: views on it. But we started talking about this three
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: years ago that, you know, if you overlap the missing 411,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: the Bigfoot sightings in the caves, if you overlay those
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: three maps, they match. I mean, you know, There's just
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: one more map that you put up there that you
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: don't have, but that's, that's the Bigfoot sightings and the
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: missing 411 clusters.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: And I got the deep underground military bases too. And look,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: there's one that goes straight through the state, Robbie, straight
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: through the state right there with the underground trail systems
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: and all that. It goes right through there.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Well, you said you felt like there was one in
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Joe Ball.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I did. Let's pull it up again. I got to
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: look at that.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Look at that. That is wild. Inner earth access map.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: By inner earth, that doesn't necessarily mean like, I don't
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: know what it means actually.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: We kind of got to talking about that hollow earth
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: theory and not like they talk about it on Monarch
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: where it's just a big open area, but like honeycombed.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, how thick is the earth's crust? It's thick, thick,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: very thick. So if you're in a big cavern and, Theoretically,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: you could have ecosystems. They've actually found ecosystems in, I think,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: not Brazil, but maybe Portugal. They actually found some underground
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: ecosystems now, almost like Jules Verne described over 100 years ago.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: You start getting going down that Jules Verne rabbit hole,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: How the heck did he describe a nuclear submarine 100
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: years before we ever had a nuclear submarine? Because the
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Nautilus is basically a nuclear submarine. Wow.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Submarines keep coming up all the time. And that even
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: has to do with like some of this, the remote
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: viewing targets I've been given of like missing 411 clusters
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: and stuff. Submarines were in that data. And I believe
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: there are all these submarines and they're using them in
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: these aquifers under the ground. And there's all sorts of,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: we don't, there's like whole other civilizations underground, Robbie.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It's a whole new world down there.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I 100% believe our theory that these cryptids are subterranean.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: I believe that too. I believe it too. And I
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: feel you on the bigger channels watching and taking all
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: of our ideas, using them and stuff. It happens to
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: me all the time. Me and me and barry talk
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: about it barry complains about more than i do because
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: i i try to keep quiet about it on you
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: know publicly but it does get a little frustrating it
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: does because we come up with some really good theories
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Just i won't say the name of the channel because
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: i don't want to give them any more coming because
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: they've already but they did a show on the bauman
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: incident a couple of months ago You know, Jessica, how
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: long have DA Doc and Steve and I been talking
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: about the Bauman incident with Teddy Roosevelt?
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: A long time.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: That's at least four years that we've been talking about it.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: We've done multiple shows on that. And that channel puts
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: it out. I think it was actually last year that
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: I found it. They put it out. And I'm like, really?
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well... It is what it is. I'm just happy
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: that people are getting the information out, I guess. And like,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm here to just spread the knowledge and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: people can run with it. That's fine.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe one day our channels will be gigantic too, but Robbie, okay. Just,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: just wait, just wait. Okay. And, but until then, Hey,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: we're putting out some great information and you and DA
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: are pretty brilliant minds, man. I can appreciate it. And,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: and so, yeah, I mean, we're, we're connecting the dots.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I really like to do that here. And tonight is
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: no different. We're connecting a bunch of freaking dots tonight.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: And we're about to get in these circus trains that
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: wrecked as well. But the most recent sighting of the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Beeman monster actually was in 2014. I'm sure there probably
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: been other sightings, but they were not classified. Like it
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: wasn't like, oh, it's a Beeman monster.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: It was 2014. There was a man named Damon who
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: said he saw the Beeman monster when he was around 10.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: He was around 10 years old. Do you see a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: pattern here? All these witnesses said they were around 10
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: to 12 years old when they saw it. What's up
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: with that, too?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: When I had my first sighting, I was eight or nine.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Do you think maybe these are like, you're on that
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: frequency when you're young and innocent? Not that you're not
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: innocent now. I'm just saying.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Far from it. I think a lot of it is
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: just when... You're that age and you see something. You
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: don't have all these preconceived notions built in. You don't
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: automatically say, oh, it must have been a bear. Because
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get ridiculed. As a child, you
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: see what you see and that's it. And you say,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: that's what I saw. Just like the kid from the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: first story I ever told when we first got on here.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: It was a cow man. It reminded me of a cow.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: The little boy from North Carolina. A bear kept me
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: warm and gave me berries. We know... That's not bear behavior.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Bears don't bring, they don't take care of human babies,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: number one, or human toddlers. Number two, how's a bear
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: bring it berries? It gave me berries.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: It'll eat you. Bears will straight up eat you. It's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: a tasty snack.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's just the whole mindset that you have, you're,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: you don't have all those preconceived notions, but it's just like,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: you know, if I go into an investigation and I've
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: already got my mind, you know, I know that so-and-so
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: was seen around the area, somebody that I've dealt with
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: and I already get it made up in my mind
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: that he did it. Then the evidence I find is
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: going to lead me to him because I've already, I'm
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: making it, go that way in in my mind and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: you have to do the same thing with these investigations
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: you have to keep an open mind and i think
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: that's why you know when these kids see stuff kids
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: don't see stuff any more than adults do but adults
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: you know your your mind's already set and made up
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: and for the most part and you know i've said
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: this before on our show that you know if we
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: didn't have people that have been browbeaten so much and
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: called crazy because they saw something how many of those
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: sightings that people say that it was a bear if
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: we didn't have that stigma of oh you're you're crazy
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: if if we just had an open mind and believed
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: like we did back then in the 1900s you you've
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: done the research how many news articles did they used
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: to post in in mainstream newspapers about while it wasn't
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: posted to make fun of people. It was a, Hey,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: you're in this area. You need to know this. You
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: might run across this thing. Now it's the stigma of
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: making fun of people. And which, you know, we know
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: that's kind of, kind of shifting now a lot, largely
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: because of shows like we have, you know, where people
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: have the ability to come on and talk about it.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: And it's a safe space. I hate to use that
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: word safe space, but, but it is. Yeah, but, but
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: it is. And, and, you know, and I, DA and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I have talked about this to where blue in the face,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: you know, if, if, if there was not that stigma
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: of people worrying about how they're going to be perceived
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: for saying this, if they, if they could just say
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: what they saw, how many of these black bear sighting,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: or it was a bear would actually be, Oh, I saw,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: I saw something that I believe might've been a Bigfoot.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious to know what that number would
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: actually be. if more people were just not worried about what,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: how people were going to perceive them.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Listen, the, the, the, the Bigfoot
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: rabbit hole is so deep and, uh, and, and being
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: in the position that I'm in here and being public and,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: you know, be having all this research under my belt
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: and stuff for all these years, almost two decades now. And, uh,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: and I've made some pretty good friends. I, luckily I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: think people can trust me. Okay. Um, And I think
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: that the people who do trust me to like give
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: me some really good information on stuff, I am, the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: rabbit hole is so much deeper on all this, Robbie.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: And it's stuff I can't even talk about right now.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy. Some of the information, the intel that
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: I'm getting on the coverups of Bigfoot and the coverups
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: of Dogman and all this stuff, it puts people's lives
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: in danger. And it could potentially put my life in danger, okay?
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: learning some of the things and stuff. I'm not saying
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: I know anything. I don't know nothing about nothing.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying it's, it's weird. It's weird how
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: it's so it's, maybe it's just about the control factor
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: with society and also money has a lot to do
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: with it as well. And however money, money, money runs
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: the world, I guess, but I mean, hopefully, hopefully things
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: are changing, you know, and the disclosure has, started trickling
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: out and people like ourselves are talking about it. And,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: and I, and there are people like us, I just
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: don't care. I'll blurt stuff out sometimes, unless, you know,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: something that's, I'm interested not to talk about.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: But, but I can just tell you, I can incorporate
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: what I know into my, what I'm telling the public. Okay.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Even if I don't say it outright, at least I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: can incorporate it into my research. Okay. And, and, and
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: that's a step in it. That's good.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: So, It's something. But but yes, I love my life
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: and I love my metaphorical balls. Thank you. Thank you, Angel.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: She says you have metaphor. You have metaphorical balls, Jess. Yes,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Yes. Thank you. Oh, man. I tell you what, I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: always put my foot in my mouth somehow every show.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: And that's funny. But yes, my balls and my word.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Join the club. I know. I do that quite often.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you for your support.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: He's in the chat, so I'm sure he'll chime in.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, is DA in here?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's here.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Okay. Thank you, Angel, again. I appreciate that. And thank you, William.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: He says, in my eyes, you and Robbie are more
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: influential than the massive podcast out there. Thank you so much.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: I'm proud of you too, William.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you for being here.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: That is very sweet. And what's up, DA? I see
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: DA Roberts is in the chat, y'all. Go over to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: he and Robbie's podcast. It's called Nightmare Hunter Podcast over
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: on YouTube. Y'all be sure to go and subscribe. And
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: thank you for being here, DA. It's so great to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: see you. But, um, but yeah, uh, you know, I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: put my foot in my mouth talking about putting your
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: foot in your mouth. When I was at the Georgia
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot conference that you were at, that guy that is
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: always there from the newspaper, he's like, he's so nice.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: He's so nice. I'm at the Clayton times or something.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And, uh, and I was like, yeah,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: you know, they used to put these reports in the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: newspaper back when the newspaper told the truth stuff. And
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: he came up to me after I, after my thing.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, I see how you feel
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: about me. I was like, oh, God.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Well, at least you didn't run the whole room off
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: like some other people. That was entertaining to watch from
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: my chair in the back of the room.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I just got sweaty.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: I can't believe you just said that.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. I didn't say who it was. You know
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: who I'm talking about. DA knows who I'm talking about.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: DA knows. I'm sure DA knows.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, because I told him the story because I
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: thought it was the funniest thing I've ever seen in
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: my life.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Yes. Look, okay, we all have different opinions, y'all, okay,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: just for the audience. We have different encounters and different experiences,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: and some people's experiences are a little more out there
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: than others, okay? And so Robbie and I have experienced
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: all of that listening to some of the speakers at
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: some of these events, and it's wonderful. I am so
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: glad they're there telling us their experiences. experiences.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: See DA's comment? Oh, man. Yes.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not even going to put that on the screen.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you, DA. That's funny. Yes, because then it's going
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: to get obvious. All right. Well, anyways, let's get on
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: to our remote viewing data.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. See what I'm saying? I didn't put
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: my foot in my mouth already.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm telling the audience. Y'all need to come
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: to these events because it's actually fun. It's a lot
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: of fun. Not only getting to meet everybody that's like
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: a part of these podcasts and field researchers and stuff,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: but you get to hear encounter stories and stuff. Listen,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: we never make for y'all. We're not making fun of anybody.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: We're not.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: But there was a reaction from the audience, let's just say,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: that was not... it was not what you say, positive
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: or something. I know everybody got up and left.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: It was definitely not positive.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Anyways, that person doesn't like me anyway, so
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: So let's get into this.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Oh Lord.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Behavioral patterns. Look at it. Behavioral patterns of these cryptids.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about our behavioral patterns tonight. Robbie, look at us. Okay.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: So they do have festivals and stuff. Speaking of conferences,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: they do have a Bayman festival. So what that tells me, listen,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: there's a lizard band festival. We've got Bigfoot festivals. If
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: this town has embraced this legend so much, that actually
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: gives it more credence in my book because they have exhibits.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: They have an annual festival, Robbie. I mean, what do
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: you think?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I can think of one that has
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: leaned into that, that, it turned out to be a hoax,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: the HODAC up in, where's that? Michigan, I think.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: The HODAC. I don't know where that's at, but it's
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: a good one.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I think, literally, they have this thing drawn on the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: side of their patrol cars, but, Oh, they do? Oh, yeah. But,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: that's the only one I know of for sure that
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: people have, ain't that flexible.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Y'all are funny.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: But, um, mean either but usually most times if these
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: towns lean into this stuff like that it's to me
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: it's like they're like okay well you know might as
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: well it's either gonna uh it's either gonna um bankrupt
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: us or it's gonna help us out.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah i mean i think that it's wonderful when a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: town uh supports their local cryptids. Okay. And, uh, it
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: can be, it can be big, big business for that town. And, uh, yes, uh,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: that one of the last, uh, what was it? The,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: the Moline and Bigfoot festival, every October, they have that
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: down in South Georgia and, uh, or middle Georgia. And, uh,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: the consul general of Denmark was there. I got to
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: meet him. I know that's kind of random, right? But,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: but he went and wrote an article about Bigfoot being
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: big business for small towns and, It was basically like
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: kind of encouraging people to, you know, embrace your local
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: cryptids and stuff. And he featured me in that article.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: So shout out to him. That was really cool. But
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: it is very cool.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Well, let's get into some of this remote viewing data.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Cause it's kind of weird, right? I mean, this is
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: just a weird cryptid or if it's even a real one,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: but I think it's a real one. And I think
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: the question now is like, is this a Bigfoot? Is
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: it a shape-shifting werewolf? Is it some kind of a,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: is it a descendant of this 12 foot gorilla? Whatever
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: that is. All right. Well, let's get into it. Okay.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to say this is going to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: answer any questions. It might leave us with more questions
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: than answers.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: With this target right here. This is a blind remote
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: viewing target. I was giving some coordinates. And this is
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: the data that came out of it. And it's weird. Okay.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Robbie. Help me make sense of this. Okay.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: When it makes no sense. Help me make sense of it.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: What I'm here for.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: This is what you're here for.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Hopefully. You're here.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: You're here to help me with this, okay? So some
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: of the sensory data for the Bayman monster. Shaking, linked, pouring, big, large, burned, late, terrorized, firm, outside,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: and together, okay? And some of my analytic overlay, that's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: like me making sense of my sensory data for this
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: remote viewing target. I was picking up on something that
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: was rattling people's nerves. So nerves rattled. There was a trifecta.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: I kept hearing alarms going off. I wrote, there's a
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: role to play and something that was big time, a
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: role to play big time. I wrote casted. I mean, honestly,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: I'm right now role to play and cast it. I'm
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: thinking like, could this be like an actor? Maybe this
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: isn't real, but I don't, I think this is a
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: real thing.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's a real cryptid, but I wrote burnout
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: late night. On a lot. I was like on a lot.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: A plot of land. So like late night on land
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: near a lake. I wrote lake. Farm land. I was
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: seeing horses on this land. Like a farm that had
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: horses on it. And a couple. Some more horse data
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: and stuff. But I was definitely picking up on a farm.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Something late at night. So maybe this thing is like
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: roaming around late at night and stuff. And it's hiding
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: on these farms. Okay. And so I wrote down the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: next page. My stage four data. I wrote down angry. incredible,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: incredibly angry. That's what I wrote down. Incredibly angry. A
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: humanoid was in my data.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: I wrote down impersonator as well. Impersonator. So like I
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: was picking up on, almost like I was picking up
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: on an actor or like someone that was playing a role.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: And then I wrote impersonator on the second page, but
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: I was picking up on a humanoid.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: So I mean, if we want to get deep in this,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: we could say, you know, some of my tangible data
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: was like being a person or a humanoid. I wrote
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: down humanoid. A humanoid. What did I write down? Human. Yeah, human.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: I wrote down humanoid twice. So like a humanoid. There's something,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: a humanoid that was incredibly angry is what I wrote.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: But maybe it's like, maybe people are just getting confused
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: with something else or misidentifying it. Or maybe it's trying
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: to pretend to be something different. Like we're talking about
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: the cowman. the kid was seeing it amongst a bunch
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: of cows and maybe this is like how it kind
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: of blends in and stuff. Like it goes and it
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: camouflages amongst other animals and stuff.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Could be. Now he didn't, he didn't see it around
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: a bunch of cows. He just, that's just what it
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: reminded him of. That's, that's where he, it's not saying
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: that it, it didn't do that, but in the initial report,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: that's not, it wasn't, there was no cows around because
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: when the, when the, uh, father found the hair he
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: thought it was horse hair but yeah well you.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Know that actually that okay so that actually reminds me
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: too of that investigation i did a couple weeks ago
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: we were we found a hair in the top part
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: of the the barbed wire on the top of the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: fence in the back where all the activity happens and
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: it was in a little place where like there's a
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: creek a drainage creek and the cows and the horses
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: can't fit over there okay like they literally can't fit
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: on that little piece of land right there. And not
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: to say they haven't like squeezed over there if they
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: got scared or something.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: But the, the owner was like, no, like we were there.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: I took some hair samples and stuff and it was
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: black hair. I haven't had it tested or anything yet, but,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: but yeah. And to me, it looked as though something
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: was like jumping over the fence and maybe some of
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: the hair got caught in it or something. But, but anyways,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They love, they like to go back
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: there and that's a good place to hide. I guess
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: is amongst the animals and around those farms.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: So I, so I wrote down walking upright.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: That was in my data walking up, right. A humanoid.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: I was picking up on like blue beam data as well.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: You know, a blue beam is like project blue beam,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: or there's like holograms and things are kind of like,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: not what they, what we think they are. So I
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: was picking up on that, but I wrote down some
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: kind of Intel. I was picking up on some kind
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: of Intel. I wrote down bipedal hairy man, bipedal hairy man,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Looks like a man, I wrote down. Looks like a man.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: I was in an outdoor setting at night. I kept
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: picking up being on a farm or some kind of
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: outdoor area with a lot of land at night. There
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: was at least one humanoid there that looked like a man,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't a man.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: That was primarily what all these things by most of
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: the non-native folk that's what they would call was you
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: know wild man or hairy man you know that i'd
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: be go back like we talked about earlier look at
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: all the newspaper articles that's what they that's what they
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: call them you know that it because like you know
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: term bigfoot wasn't around at that point.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: That's right well this is going to be interesting because
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: i got one more page of data and in the
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: site the third page of data the word wolfman is
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: in my data wolfman okay So, um, so I wrote, uh,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: part of my analytical overlay, I heard run it back,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: whatever that means, run it back historical. I was picking
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: up on something that was like old, way back in the,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: way back in the day, back in time. And then
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: I heard a voice say wolf man. I heard a
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: voice wolf man. And, uh, and I was, again, I
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: was like in the, in a plot of land where
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: people were hunting, like I was seeing people hunting. I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: wrote down Lake land, grass, field woods. Violation. I was
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: thinking about like a violation or something. Whatever that is.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: But dense woods and hiding out. So whatever this was,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: was hiding out in the woods. And so that was
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: my data. But I do believe, I think that, first
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: of all, this thing is real. Whatever this is, there
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: may be a whole bunch of them. I don't know.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: But there's something out there. And people are encountering this
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: thing now. Did it descend from a 12-foot tall gorilla?
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: if that's true.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Typically, most Gugway sightings, most people look around or estimate
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: around the, you know, anywhere from 7 to 10-foot mark.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: There's usually on the smaller scale. William, correct me if
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: I'm awful on that at all, but I think that's
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: usually the size parameters of most Gugway sightings. So that's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: consistent with what you said most of the people were
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: saying around the size mark. So obviously angry and aggressive
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: that you could put up with. That definitely tracks. Did
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: they say anything about the tracks they found? Did they
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: say anything about how many toes?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: They said they were large. Nothing about toes. I was looking.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: There's no inches. There's no length. There's no width. It's
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: just big. It's just big.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Most people generally believe that most of the Honey Island
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Swamp Monster tracks were three-toed. The tracks they found in
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: the field in Arkansas in that guy's bean field, those
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: were three-toed tracks. So most people think that Gugway might
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: have three toes. And da and i talked about that
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: that could be a genetic defect inbreeding if it's a
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: smaller population.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: That's what i always think too inbreeding that's what my
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: buddy david pardue always says it's inbreeding and uh probably
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: inbreeding or there could be a reptilian aspect to it
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: some of those honey allen swamp monster tracks actually some
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: people were saying they were alligator tracks too but i
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: don't know um i'd I don't remember exactly.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: I've heard that too, but if you watch the movie,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: which actually has actual footage of it, and I've seen
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: the actual casting. It was at the Monster Mart in Texarkana.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: There's no webbing in it. No webbing? Yeah. If you've
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: looked at an alligator print, you see the toes, but
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: you can clearly see the webbing. There's no webbing in
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: those tracks.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay. Well, that's cool. Yeah. It came under a
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: little scrutiny. That's all, you know, with the, with the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: being in the swamps and stuff too. I mean, my
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: mind goes straight to reptilian.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: That's where I don't always go straight to reptilian, but
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: you know, there's plenty of Bigfoots that have, you know,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: left three-toed tracks as well. And that's usually what I
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: would consider probably would be like either the breed, the species,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: maybe there's different species of them, but inbreeding would be
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: another one. Okay. I don't know. I don't know any
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: humans with three toes.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Do you? I've never met anybody. Not that I know
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: of anyway. Yeah.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: Not that I know of.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of alien hybrid people that are
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: being put out into the public right now, I believe.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Do you see that lady that's like in the president's
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: administration or something? She's got this long neck. It was
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: all over the news. It's all over TikTok. Oh, man.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: People with like necks.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Well, it's got to be true. It's all over TikTok.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: My trusted news source. Wink, wink. Uh, but, uh, it's
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: more than just TikTok. It's on Instagram too, Robbie. Okay. But, uh,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: but anyways, it's better than CNN. Am I right?
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Well, that's true.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: That's true, right?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's all sorts of, I'll give you that one.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: I got a point. I know I got a point, but, uh,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: but yeah, William said yes, Robbie, from your question earlier.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: OK, well, I think that this whatever this is, I
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: think it's real. The Bayman monster. I think this is
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: probably real. There's probably a whole bunch of different kinds
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: of them. I don't think it's just one like with
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: all these other cryptids. That's what I would assume. Let's
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: look into these circuses. OK, this is what I've been
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: dying to look at tonight. Let's look at the circuses. OK,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: my my my brain, my rational brain is like we
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: need to track down this train wreck. OK, let's track
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: it down. And let me take that down. Thank you, William.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: Let's see what all we got here before I pull
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: it up. Okay, so the first thing that I looked
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: into was, was there a circus in Missouri? And I'm
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: sure there was. But, you know, they were having all
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: those World's Fairs, Robbie, around this time. The Old World's Fairs.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: And so I found, this is one of the first
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: things that I found. And I'll share my screen briefly.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Under the Dome, 1904, Kansas, semi-centennial. State House Grounds. Highest
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: honor ever conferred on an amusement enterprise. Now, I don't
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: even know what this is exactly. I think this might
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: be alluding to like a World's Fair or something. Or
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: maybe it's just... It looks like the state capitol. It
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: looks like they had a fair at their state capitol grounds.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Which does look like an old world building, by the way.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: And let's see. What is this? I think this is
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: just some artwork or something. This is a circus poster.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: But..
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: This is historical and it goes back to an actual event.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, that looks like there's going to be some
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: side show carnival people there. What do you think? You
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: think there's a bearded lady in that crowd?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Possibly. Very possibly.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: A bearded lady and and probably some dog faced men
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: and probably maybe even a 12 foot gorilla. I don't know.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe not. OK, so there's that. So I found that
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: was the first thing I found. Wait, there's more. OK,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: so we got that. All right. So the Ringling Brothers Circus. OK,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: let me pull this one up next. So I also
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: did a search. It's like, wait, maybe I should bring
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: the other one up first.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Let me see. Circus names. OK, I'm going to pull
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: this one up. This is just a list of all
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: the different circuses that actually were going on back in
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: the 1900s. And they're all Ringling Brothers. Good grief. This
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: goes way back. Ringling Brothers. These are the circus routes.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I found the circus routes, Robbie. Oh, man. It doesn't
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: take that much. It took me five seconds, five minutes
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: to get all this information, actually. And so here we go.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: St. Louis. Kansas City.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: Where's Kansas City on here? There it is right there.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: 1904 Kansas City. Sells and Downs Circus. Okay, let's see
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: if I can click on it. Oh, gosh, when I
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: click on it, it doesn't do anything. Dang it. Okay, well,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: it doesn't do anything, but here's the thing.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: There's another Kansas City, Barnum and Bailey.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: Is there 1904?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's Ringling Brothers 1904 in Kansas City.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, there it is right there. Okay, 1904, 1907. There's one,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: Ringling Brothers 1904. Yeah. Okay, this is all still 1904.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: It's really light. It's hard for me to see that.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: I need my glasses.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: And there's 1904, Barnum and Bailey, greatest show on earth
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City. So that's three major circuses in Kansas
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: City in 1904. Yeah, Joplin's not far from Kansas City.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: Look, I mean, we've got a second page. I mean,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: there's a lot. The circus came through here quite a bit.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all can see this. Let me look. Yeah,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: y'all can see that one.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: So this is all in 1904. Okay. Yeah. I don't
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: see any more Kansas City, but that doesn't mean that
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: these other towns might not have been close to there.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of circuses that went through there. Now,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: did they have a train wreck? That's the next question. I,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: I couldn't really find if they had had a train
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: wreck anywhere, but let's see. When I'm doing this research, y'all,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to be thorough here. Let's look at this.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: This is the history of the Ringling Brothers Circus because
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of these were Ringling Brothers. Okay, hold on. Routes.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Ringling Brothers Circus. This is from 1884 to 1919. I
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: wanted to see, like, what all would that consist of, Robbie, right?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Would they have a 12-foot tall gorilla in here? And
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: it says, this is just a history, talking about the
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: family who were the Ringling brothers and their wives and
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: where they toured. The circus toured the Midwest United States
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: and grew slowly. In 1888, Ringlings purchased their first elephant,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: a creature that most Midwesterners had not seen before. In
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: the late 1800s, after the purchase of the elephant, the
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: circus began to thrive. That elephant was all it took.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: In 1890, the circus changed from a horse-drawn wagon to
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: railroad cars, thus extending their route and lengthening their tour.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: By 1900, the circus had become a strong competitor of
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: the larger and more well-known Barnum & Bailey Circus. And
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: then they bought another circus, and uh, and they became
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: the Barnum and Bailey circus. And, uh, and so.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: 19, 19 is when Ringling brothers and Barnum and Bailey, uh, merged.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, there's some books right here. If you guys
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: want to go check out the books on this, you know,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: there's a clown. I think there's a clown school down in,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: in Florida. If you guys want to go learn how
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: to be a clown. Uh, my uncle was joking about
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: how I should go to clown school.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: He said at one point, uh, steve-o from jackass he
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: actually went to that the ringling brothers clown college yeah oh.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: My god it's like your worst nightmare if you're not
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: into clowns right but yeah but anyways okay so there's
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: that let's see uh well i guess that's about it
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: i mean i don't know i i just wanted to
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: you know find some proof that there were some circuses
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: in the area at that time i could not find
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: any kind of information on a train crash robbie anywhere,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: but the circuses did go through there several times in 1904. Okay,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: what is that, three or four you counted, right?
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at least three and maybe four.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Three or four, all right. Well, it's up to all
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: of you sleuths out there. If y'all want to look
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: into that a little bit further, we know what the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: circuses were now, and I have a list, but I
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: couldn't find any train wrecks, okay, and there was no
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: mention of it, and not to say there wasn't, But
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: I just, we know there were circuses that went through
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: there for now. What's up with the circuses in their
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: train wrecks? I mean, I know we mentioned that at
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the show, but my goodness, is that
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: just like the going excuse? Like that's like the, the,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: what do you call it? The template. It's like the template.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: It's like the excuse of like all these critters and
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: werewolves and Bigfoots that have just kind of shown up
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: in these areas. It was a circus train wreck. I
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: don't know. How many? I can count two, but I
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: know there's more, Robbie. Do you know of other ones
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: other than the Werewolf Springs?
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: We've talked about them. Let's see. 1904.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: June 22nd of 1918, the deadliest.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Circus train disaster in the 1900s occurred on June 22nd,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: 1918 in Hammond, Indiana. So that was from Hagenbeck Wallace Circus,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: August 6, 1903, Duran, Michigan. So they're definitely thermal portable.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: I got some pictures. I want to see them. This
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: is for entertainment purposes only. Look at this at your
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: own discretion, y'all. This might be, I haven't really examined these.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: There might be some carnage out here. I don't know.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: These are circus train wrecks. Holy cow. Jesus. Look at these, Robbie.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: These are crazy.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: A circus train wreck. Now, that's no joke. Good Lord.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Well, most train wrecks aren't. I mean, I've worked a
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: few in my time. And train wrecks are..
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: Circus train jumps to tracks. This was like..
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: That's 1994. I was still in high school back then.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're looking for the older ones, but man, that
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: is rough. I've actually seen a train wreck before, a
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: bad one. I watched it happen right in front of me.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: On Christmas Eve, when I was a little kid, we
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: were driving home from my grandparents' house, trying to get
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: home so Santa Claus could come. And this lady was,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: her car was broken down on the train tracks in
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: this little small town we had to go through. And
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: a train was coming. And my dad had enough time
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: to try to grab her keys and get her German
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: Chevrolet out of the back of her car right before
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: the train hit. He was trying to push her car off,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: but she was panicked. But we watched the train collide
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: with her car. It was horrible. There's a lot of
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: damage that gets done when these trains hit.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: This is a lot more than I was expecting, Robbie. Oh,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: my God. Man. Man. Alright, so these are just some
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: more of the pictures here. This one's still got smoke. So, yeah,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: that's pretty bad. I mean, this was one of the
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: main modes of travel, right, Robbie, back then? Especially for big,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, big animals and things like that.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the equipment that they would have to carry.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't have semi trailers and things like
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: that back then. So that was really the, if you know,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: if you were moving a big mobile thing like that,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: and especially if you were going to, cause that's, I mean,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: that's how a lot of things were moved back then.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: And if you were moving a lot of stuff and
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: you're following that circuit, cause a lot of the big
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: cities had train depots. So that's, that's a good place to,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: you know, follow that little circuit.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Here's another one. This is in Michigan. It says. Look,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: there's dead. Oh, there's a dead elephant right there. Look
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: at all the dead animals.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, Lord.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, y'all. I didn't I didn't mean to
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: show all that, honestly. But here's one. Nineteen eighteen circus
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: train wreck. That's in. What is that? Indiana.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one. Yeah. The Hagenbeck Wallace Circus. That's why
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: I read you about before you found the pictures. They
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: said that was the deadliest one of all time. All right.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: 86 people died and over 100 others were injured.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: I feel bad for joking about this now. I had
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: no idea it was this bad. Like, this is really crazy. Look,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is wild. I mean, just pulling that
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: up and showing all these wrecks. These are all circus
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: train wrecks. Not maybe not all. Maybe not all these
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: right here. But the ones at the top. Here's another one.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: And it's just carnage. Look at that. And the poor animals.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: That's really sad. Okay. Well I'm going to quit looking
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: at these. Because this is depressing now. I wasn't expecting that.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting it to be that much. This is
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: a rabbit hole right here. This is a real rabbit hole.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Because yeah. You saw how much carnage that was. And
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: how all the wreck was like. I mean, absolutely there
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: would have been animals escaping, and whatever was caged could
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: escape that.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was probably way more than that before
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: they had photographs and were able to document it like that.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Wow.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: Because the one in Werewolf Springs was in the 1800s.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad that we actually looked this up tonight.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: Because I had never done that. I never looked into
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: it that much. I didn't know it was that deep.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: I did not. And William says, did you know that
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: the circus trains were thought to carry the remains of
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: exotic cryptids for the government in Smithsonian?
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: Well, hiding points up.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: That's right. Man, I have seen some stuff recently. I
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: don't even know what to think about. Man, they have
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: been doing this for a long time. And it's all
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: about the money. And it's all about... the elite, let's
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: just say the elite.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: The elite trafficking, if you want to call it that. And, and,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: you know, it's been coming out recently. Like, you know,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: all the elite are eating mermaids and, you know, big
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: homie CC came out talking about how they, he went
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: to a billionaire's house that had a taxiderm Bigfoot in
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: it and stuff. So, I mean, it's, it's out in
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: the public. People think it's a joke. I don't think
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: it's all a joke, Robbie.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: I don't either.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: When you got money, You're going to buy weird stuff.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: If you've got the money to spend, you're going to
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: eat weird stuff, probably. I'm not going to say that.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: I eat weird stuff anyways, but I don't eat that
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: kind of weird stuff. I eat Viennas, so that's pretty
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: much as weird as it gets. But anyways. Yeah, William,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: that's a good point. They probably do. I would never
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: put that past whoever. You said the government and the Smithsonian.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: The Smithsonian. Well, let's go back to that 12 foot gorilla.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: But what if it was like a giant or something?
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: You know, where are the bones of that thing? He
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: said that it escaped.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. This is all very fascinating. And it's
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: almost turned into the last part of the show. Just
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: like circus, circus train wrecks. We've gone off the rails
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: tonight and and got to see some carnage.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: Seriously.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, well. Well, this has been fantastic, Robbie. I
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: appreciate you being here with me.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: I always have a good time. I know.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: Don't we have fun? We really do. Let me see
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: what the audience is saying. What's up, David Pardue? I
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: see you in here. Yeah, I don't know. I hadn't
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: had a chance to look at the chat too much.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: But that's true. Yes, the elite guard the knowledge. They
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: do secret societies, the gatekeepers, the agent smiths.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And we're just here just, I don't know, waiting
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: to get that proverbial knock at my door again. I'm
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: just kidding. Uh, but, uh, but yeah, it's true though.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: The elite, they do, they guard all the knowledge. I'd
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: put it little E on there.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: I do it lowercase E David.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: Lowercase E. But, um, yeah, they're, they're hiding stuff. And
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, just imagine if you had a lot of
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: money too, wouldn't you want to taxiderm Bigfoot? Maybe, I
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: don't know. I wouldn't cause I think they're people.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: But, um, But for people who don't know or they
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: just hear that, like, oh, I could get a Bigfoot
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: if I had a million dollars.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: I want one of those for 50 million or 20
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: million or whatever. I'll take two.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: That's probably what they're saying. So it's just to make
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: you think, y'all. Little breadcrumbs here. And if you don't
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: think it's not happening or if it hasn't happened, think again.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: Think again.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: Little E.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: David said little E. he stands corrected. I'm just kidding. Thanks, David.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Oh man. Well, anyways, well, I think, I think this
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: has been great. Uh, in conclusion tonight, I do believe
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: that the Bayman monster is a real cryptid of some sort.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: It's something. Now I do believe it's probably more like
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: a wolf man. Uh, you know, if we want to
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: get into the topic of like gugways and stuff, I mean,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: it doesn't seem as though it's like attacking people, but,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: The Beast of Seven Shoots didn't really attack people, but
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: that's also considered a Gugwe. You got to watch out
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: for your livestock and your small pets.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: We did a show on that, you and I.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: We did. We did. We did. Actually, I have some
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: pictures we can pull up of what Gugwe looked like,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: if anyone's interested. My throat keeps closing up, so I
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: know that something is trying to get me to shut up.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: There's some force out there. It's like, Jessica, shut up.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: Shut up. Quit talking. Okay. Here, let's see. Let's get
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: a good one. This one right here looks like a monkey.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: It's got that baboon face. Take off the blue and red.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: Take off the blue thing on its face, and that's
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: probably what they look like. That's like the Beast of
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: Seven Shoes right there, except for the blue thing on
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: its face.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's more of a baboon snout. Most people think
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: it's more like a mandrill, which doesn't have the color,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: the colorations. Same structure, just doesn't have those colorations like
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: a baboon.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: Does it also looks like a bigfoot though doesn't it
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: with a cone head it looks just like a bigfoot
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: but it does have that let's see and you know
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: this is kind of a the going the picture right
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: here that people talk about like that could be like
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: one with a big teeth yep it's got the fangs.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: And stuff well i mean you know what uh there
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: we go that looks good you know what gugway translates into.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: The face eater. Face eaters, face peelers. We've got all that.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: We've got all that. That one's got like the bottom fangs.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: That's like a freaking mountain monster right there. A mountain giant.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: Let's see. There's some other good pictures here I saw earlier.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: They also like to hide in the fog, Robbie. They're
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: known to be in Yellowstone National Park hiding in the fog.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: They say that's where the hikers go missing. How they
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: go missing.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: If you want to watch a good Bigfoot movie that
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: really kind of leans into Gugway, Primal.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: Primal. Oh, that sounds good. What is that?
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Pull up Primal and look at the... You should... You'll
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: know exactly what I'm talking about when you..
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: Primal movie. Okay.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: Primal.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: Is this it?
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: No, keep going.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: Should I type in something else?
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe. I thought I saw it there for a second.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe Primal Bigfoot movie.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: Okay. Primal Bigfoot. Oh, there we go.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the one with the girl and him
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: behind it. That one and the one right beside it. Yeah,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: that one and then the one right beside it.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: Is that a little girl or a woman?
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: That's a woman. But they depict it as wearing armor
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: in certain scenes. But if you click back out of
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: it and click the one right beside it, that's it without.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: Oh. Well, that looks disturbing. So that would be like
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: a Gugway kind of, I guess.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, geez. Yes, Primal Rage. I'm sorry. It's Primal Rage,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: not Primal.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, hide your kids, hide your wife. That is wild.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: Actually a pretty good movie. Is it?
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to have to watch that one when
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: I get a chance. Primal Rage. Well, there's your Gugweil
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: and your Genosquiz or whatever. That does look kind of evil, actually. Yeah.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: They don't call it a Gugweil in there. I can't
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: remember what They use a Native American name in it.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what it is off the top of
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: my head, but we've talked about it on our show,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: and DA and I both believe that they were depicting
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: the Gugway in that.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Who was that? I think it was Mike.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: Mike said he didn't want that. Yeah, Mike said, I'm
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: not sure I'd want that one taxidermed in my man cave. Oh, man,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think I would either. Not
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: that I have a man cave with my cojones and stuff, but,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: but anyways, yes, that is, that is wild. That is wild.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'd want that taxidermied in my house. I,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: you know, I do like, I do like strange stuff.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: But definitely not that, not that it looks scary. And
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Thanks. Thanks for the movie recommendation, Robbie.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: We need, I need to get like a list of good,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Cryptid movies from you sometime and do some Netflix watching
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: one weekend or something.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: The Oma. Yep. There you go, Amy. That's it.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: Is that another movie?
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: No, that's what they called it in Primal Rage was
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: the Oma. I couldn't remember.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: Oma. Okay. Very cool. That is very cool. Angel Nose. Wait,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: is that Angel? Hold on. I hit the wrong one.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: It's Amy.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: Amy Nose.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: They call it oma this chat moves so fast like
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: i'll click a comment and then the one beside it
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: will come up because it's so fast yes and i
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: don't pay attention that well y'all sometimes.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: I'm all over the place yeah and like uh toby
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: is the one if you want to go watch you
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: get on toby and just search bigfoot movie and you're
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: going to get like 500 down there's gonna be a
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of slop a lot of them
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: that are not so good but you'll find some good
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: ones that Tubi's where I first saw exists. It's a
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: pretty good one. Big Legends on there. That's a good one.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: That's a really good one. I think they were talking
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: about Genosco in that one. Primal Rage is on it.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Some other good ones. I just have to look because
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: I've seen so many of them. Sometimes they kind of
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: start running together.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I am behind. I don't, I never watch movies anymore.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: I just don't, I don't have, I haven't had time.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't watch TV. I watch YouTube occasionally.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: But, um, but yeah, I need to, I need to
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: catch up. I'm behind on all the crypto shows and, uh, encrypted.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, lost, lost coast tapes is also pretty
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: good one. It's another kind of found footage type. Um,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: those can, uh, those can be hit or miss sometimes,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: but exists. Lost coach tapes. Those are, Some pretty good
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: ones as far as the lost footage, found footage. Okay.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: And William said he just sent me a picture. So
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: let me check that out real quick. And let's see.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: Where did you send it, William? Where did you send it? Oh,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: here it is. I got it. Oh, gosh. William, is
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: it okay if I show this one? That is creepy.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: All right. Y'all want to see this one? Let's see.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: This looks like a hyena-type were-dog. I don't know what this.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: Is, William.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: What is that? Hold on. I'm going to let the
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: audience see that. It looks very... Hold on. Let me
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: get it up here. That looks like a hyena-type were-dog,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: like a were-hyena. That would be like a real were-hyena, actually,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: I think. Yeah.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Good grief, William.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: That is wild.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Something you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Or even a lit alley. No.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine watching somebody. You're just hanging out. And
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: somebody transforms into that thing.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: No thank you.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you William. That's like a were hyena then. We've
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: been talking about were hyenas quite a bit. Were hyenas.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: Were cats. And all that. I guess you just. It's
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: kind of the same as being an S walker. Yes
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: kind of. Maybe it's a little different. But thank you
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: for that. I've not seen a representation of that looking
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: like that, William. Look at those ears and those fangs.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: That very much looks like the mouth of that Gugwe
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: representation too, Robbie. With the fangs in it like that. Yeah. Man,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I just don't even think about
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: stuff like this when I'm out in the woods. I just,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't or I might not go in
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: the woods anymore. Wow. Oh, well, okay. Well, Robbie, thank
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: you so much for being here tonight. And, uh, what
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: do you think? What is your, you got any final
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: thoughts on all this stuff? What do you think about
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: the Beeman monster?
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's, it's probably a misidentification. I
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: don't think it's actually a 12 foot gorilla. I think
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: we're talking probably something along the lines of maybe a
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: dog man or a Gugway, something like that. Just, but,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: As far as your data, I think that, to me,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: makes me lean more towards Gugway. Other than you hitting
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: on the term werewolf, everything other than that makes me
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: think Gugway. But, you know, who knows? I mean, that's
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: just speculation, which is what we're all doing.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I think it's definitely legit.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: Let's see. I was going to pull up your podcast
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: and stuff too before we go tonight. So everybody can
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: go over there and subscribe, of course.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: So, Robbie, you are a pretty accomplished author.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: I know you were just on here a week ago.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: Has your new book come out yet? I have finished.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: I finished chapter 20, started on chapter 21.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: I'm about 57,000.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: Words into it. Um, so hopefully, hopefully in the next
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: week or so, me and DA were talking about that
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: last night. He, he's, uh, getting close to finishing his
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: current one. He's working on, I'm getting close to finishing
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: this one. Um, and he's got a couple more that
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: he's already started. Um, I can't, I can't work like
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: DA does. I, I have to focus on one. I
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: tried to do two at a time and it, and
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: I got like halfway through both of them. And then
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: I just, focused on the other one and then it
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: took me forever to get the other one finished. So
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: I think I felt, or I feel it's just best
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: for me just to work on one at a time.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: Cause especially, you know, with all the other stuff I
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: got going on, it's just easier to focus on one
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: book at a time. But yeah, number 12 should be,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: should be coming out next week or so. Hopefully.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: Congratulations. That's so cool. That's so cool. It's Author Robbie
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: Jed Range on Amazon, y'all. I'm going to pull up
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: your Amazon page for people who want to check out
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: your books and stuff. And, of course, we've got to
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: talk about your podcast, too. Here, let me see. Here
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: we go. These are your books. And, of course, D.A.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: Roberts was also in the chat tonight, y'all. And D.A.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: and Doc as well. You guys all kind of go
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: in and have some of the same characters in some
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: of your books.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the way we, like, like the dark frontiers book,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: that's all three of us, right? Books in that overarching series.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: DA takes the main timeline, so to speak. Um, uh,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: Doc's taken everything from civil war all the way up
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: to world war one. And his are the, uh, dark frontiers,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: the vampire chronicles. DA just does dark frontiers and then whatever,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: you know, escapade they're in on those books. Docs are
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: the Vampire Chronicles, which talks more about the vampires that
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: the Nightmare Hunters go after. And mine are the War Journals, which,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: you know, DA has already alluded to all the different
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: battles and things that the Nightmare Hunters were part of, being,
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: you know, a couple hundred years old each. So that was...
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: My wheelhouse was everything from World War I all the
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: way to the Cold War. It's like when you read
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: one of DA's, you're basically getting the story from Declan's lens,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: which Declan's the leader of the group, obviously, but it's
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: all the same characters, but it's all through Declan's lens.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: When you read Doc's, all the same characters, everything's the same,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: but you're getting those same characters as viewed through Doc's lens,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Doc's character. Same thing with mine, same characters, but you're
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: getting them through Jed's lens. How, so things that, you know,
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: you still, you still have Declan being mostly the same,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: but it's how Jed views him versus how he's viewed
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: coming straight from Declan. That makes sense.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: It does. That's so cool. I love how y'all do that.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: Um, Wild Hunt, Project Manicore, that's when DA first came
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: up with the Wild Hunt. There's the Midwest Division, which
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: is where all the Team Odin books come from. That's
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: Clark and all those guys. But there's also the West
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: Coast Division, there's the Alaskan Division, and there's the East
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: Coast Division. So he gave me the East Coast Division,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: and that's the unit that I write about from the
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: wild hunt, uh, that's actually been one of my most
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: popular books. I've sold probably more copies of that than
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: any other book that I've got, but Valley of Bones
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: is actually kind of catching up that.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Look at that. Look at that cover, man.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: That looks bad-ass. That looks really cool.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: I like that cover. Yeah. We talked about it the
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: other night. I think between the three of us, we've
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: got over 50 books that intertwine and within that, Same universe.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: Man, that is so neat. That's so cool. Action-packed, too.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: Action-packed and all interconnecting. And, yeah. Y'all go check them out.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: We've got a... You know what? I think it was
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: kind of last minute. I don't remember if I put
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: your link in the description box, but it's in the
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: chat tonight. And I'm going to definitely put it after
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: the show. It's going to go right into the description
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: link on the show for you guys to go purchase
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: Robbie's books.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: And there's a nice variety here. And we got another
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: one coming in the next week, right, Robbie?
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: Hopefully so. Like I said, I'm on chapter 21, so
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: probably another three to four chapters, and it should be done.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: And then as far as next, I've got some... I
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: kind of want to go back to Valgaard, but That
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: one didn't sell too good, so I enjoyed writing that one. Yeah,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: people have been talking about that one. I still need
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: to do the third Grail book. I've got another Shadow Walker,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: or yeah, the fourth book of the Shadow Walkers that
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: I'm working on, and that's where Tina comes into Rick's
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: daughter because his son, Kirk, is the main or one
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: of the main characters in project Manicor. So Tina, people's like,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: when's Tina going to get into the family business? So
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: I've got the, she's going to take over when Rick
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: left the shadow walkers or, you know, the sheep dogs
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: is the group was named and went to the grail series.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: Tina's going to actually step in and, and take that
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: spot or take Rick spot there. Um, So I've got
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: another one of those in mind. I've got a follow
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: up for Valley of Bones that I'm kind of kicking around. So, yeah,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: we've got some projects. It's just getting to them.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Well, you're busy. You stay so busy.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: You have a normal job, too. You got like a
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: regular job. So, yeah. So kudos, man. And I know
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: you're staying busy. William just sent me a picture of
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: a Gugway track. Do you want to see this real
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: quick before we go? We're going to talk and we'll
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: also promote your podcast as well. Hold on one second.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: Let me share the screen real quick. Thanks, William. I'm
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: going to show this real quickly. It actually kind of
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: looks like a kind of like a Bigfoot track. Kind of.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: Let me look at this. I haven't had a chance
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: to look at it yet. That's cool. That's cool. That's
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: pretty big, too. Look at that pin right there.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. That looks a lot like the track
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: at the Monster Mart. Or what used to be the
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: Monster Mart. It's not there anymore, I don't think. Or
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: it got sold.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: Where is that? Is that in Arkansas?
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: It's in Texarkana, yeah.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: But that's Denny Roberts owned. That's where a lot of the...
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: If you watch the... Not the actual movie, but if
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: you watch the Small Town Monsters documentary on Legend of
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: Boggy Creek, a lot of the interviews and things like
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: that were done there. That's where I got to meet,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: what did you say the guy's name was? that actually
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: played the... Keith Crabtree. I got to meet him there.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: I love him. Shout out to Keith. He's a great guy.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: He was super nice. The guy that was kind of
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: there's our liaison, so to speak. He introduced us to Mr.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: Roberts.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: He's the one that called Keith in. Keith came in.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was just five or six of us.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: He took his own time to come up here and
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: hang out with us. I kind of got to geek
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: out and nerd out. I hadn't seen The Legend of
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: Boggy Creek when I had my encounter. I didn't see
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: it until afterwards. So, if I'd seen it beforehand, it
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been as impactful to me, but seeing
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: it after I had my first encounter that made it
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: that much more impactful. And it was just, it was,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: it was a bucket list thing to go there. And, and,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, William take William Lunsford was one of, uh,
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: was the guy that set all that stuff up for us.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: He took us out on the self sulfur river bottoms
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: that night. So just to go out there and kind
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: of be walking around that same area, that all that
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: stuff happened that that was it was amazing that was
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: probably one of the the best excursions that i've ever ever.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: Went on god i want to go i want to
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: go steve has been there steve said i've been squashing
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: on the crab tree land i'm.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: Jealous i don't know how far we were from from
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: that but it's according to william we were we were
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: right in the area where most of the movie took
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: or you know the events from the movie took place
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: uh he actually drove the drove us by the, the, uh, what's,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: you know, the plot house in there anymore, but the
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: one where the guys, uh, sitting on the toilet and
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: it reaches in the window and tries to grab him
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: off the toilet. He took us by, we drove by
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: where that house used to be. Um, I mean, it
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: was just, it was a really, really cool experience.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: Can't remember who, who was on my show. They were
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: talking about how, I think it was Flat Rock. Flat
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: Rock said that, uh, the Bigfoot's watching when he's on
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: his toilet and stuff.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: They love peeking in the windows.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: That, to me, was one of the scariest scenes in
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: the movie when he's in that thing reaching through the window.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: That was a true brown pants moment. Yeah.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's at your most vulnerable, right? Oh, yeah.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: It's probably just a sign of dominance they're trying to
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: do or something. I guess that's what that is.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: It definitely messed that kid up because they ended up
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: having to take him to the hospital. He was catatonic
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: for 15, 20 hours or so after that, I think.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. It scared the out of him, if
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Say crap. Scared the crap
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: out of him. It's not funny, y'all. I'm not laughing
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: at him. But yeah, that's wild. That's so wild. Steamboat says, Robbie,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: I love this area. I'm only 20 miles from Falk. Falk.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: You say Falk? Is that how you pronounce it?
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: I always pronounce it right. That's how I've always heard
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: it pronounced. That's how I always pronounce it. Yeah. The
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: movie's great, but if you want to watch something that's
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: really good and gives you a lot of good behind-the-scenes
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: talks to people that were around the Small Town Monsters
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: episode that they did on that, it's excellent. I would
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: have to check that out. It really... I want to
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: say Eli produced that one. I think Stacey and all
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: of them were involved in it. That's a great group
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: of people. They put on some really good documentaries.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to check some of those out. Like
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: I said, I haven't had time to watch nothing. Okay,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: but I do hear their name quite often with the
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: Small Town Monster and stuff. So that's cool. I think
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: they're on YouTube. I'm pretty sure.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: Eli's actually, if anybody listens to the first couple of
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: books DA's got on before Cam started narrating, well, Lakeview Man, actually,
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: is the only one. But Eli's the one from Small
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: Town Monsters. He's the one that narrates the Lakeview Man
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: of DA's own Audible.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, very cool. That's awesome. Okay, well, Colleen, first of all,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: thank you, William Nighthawk, for sharing that picture with us.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you for sharing the other picture
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: of that werehyena with us as well. I've never seen that.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: That's a really good one. And Colleen said it almost
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: looks like three toes in that print, too. Yeah, I
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: need to examine that print. That was really cool. So, yeah.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: What's up, Poncho? I see you in here. Thank you
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: for being here, too. Okay. Well, Robbie, before we go,
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: tell the audience about your podcast with you and DA
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: and Doc and all the other fellas that show up
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: there from time to time with y'all.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: A lot of times it's just me and DA because
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: Steve and Doc both work a lot. So a lot
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: of times it's just me and DA, um, but every
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: Wednesday night at, uh, eight o'clock Eastern or eight o'clock
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: Central and, or seven o'clock Central and eight o'clock. Yeah.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: Eight o'clock East Eastern. Um, we, we talk pretty much
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: about a lot of the same stuff that Jessica talks about, uh,
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: Like last night's show was about that one about the
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: cow man. And we've kind of started or changing our
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: format a little bit. And last night was our third
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: open case file episode where we just take an open
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: case and we just kind of break it down bit
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: by bit, get the audience involved, you know, it just,
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of show them how an investigation goes
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: from start to finish and, you know, the things you
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: got to look at and then, okay, is, and we're
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: not trying to say, Oh, this is, this is real.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: You know, we might come to the conclusion that we
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: think it's real, but you know, we never, we never
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: ask anybody to buy into what we're, because it's, it's
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: our opinion. Um, and I think, I think we're somewhere
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: over 500 shows now.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You don't got a bunch.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: 500. Yep. That's great.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: Awesome. Heck yeah. Y'all go over there and, um, and
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: subscribe to nightmare hunter podcast. And, uh, yeah, that's great.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: I like your case files.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: That's really neat.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you guys are every Wednesday and then Saturday.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: No, we're not, we're not doing Saturday. It got, we
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: were at one point we were doing three shows a week.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: We were doing the Monday night mayhem with DA and I, or,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: writing a book, letting the audience get involved with that.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: Then we had the Wednesday night show, and then we
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: had the Saturday night show. Number one, DA got where
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: he was just falling behind on his writing, and it
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: was a lot on all of us. So we just
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: dropped it back to that. Now, we may end up
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: bringing Monday Night Mayhem back at some point. I don't
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: know that we'll go back to a Saturday night show
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: and a Wednesday night show where they're both pretty much
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: exactly the same. I think if we go back, we'll
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: probably reopen Monday Night Mayhem. But the thing is, Monday
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: Night Mayhem wasn't picked up by Unex. It was just
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: the other show. So that's kind of one of the
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: things that's kind of still up in the air because
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: we had to keep, or DA had to keep our
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: old studio for that. So, and it was fun, but
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: we weren't getting a whole lot of views on it.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: So, and.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: It may come back. May not.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: We just, we'll look at and revisit once, once the,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: it gets caught back up where he needs to be.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: Cause it was just, you know, and he's fine, but
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: you know, his health is not great. So it was,
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: it was to the point where it was cutting in
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: his work and it was, it was hard on him
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: to sit there for three shows a week. And you know,
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not, It was hard for me to sit there
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: for three shows a week.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: It's a lot, man. You know what? I love it,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: but it can be a lot, especially if you've got
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: other stuff going on. I totally get that.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: A lot of people may not realize how much work
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 2: goes into these shows.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We make it look easy, don't we, Robbie? Just kidding.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: You do. I don't know about me. Most of the time,
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have a clue what I'm doing.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: Let me make it look easy. No, nobody's perfect, but
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: you know, we get the shows done and I'm just,
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: I have a blast, man. I have so much fun.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: It's so great to meet so many new people and
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: get to talk to people about the research and hang
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: out with my old friends like you, all of our
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: old friends and stuff. And yeah, it's fantastic. So, and
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: I totally miss this. Brian Bowden. I like to say
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: Bowden because we got a Bowden where I live. Brian Bowden.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here, Brian. Sir, Brian.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: And thank you for that super sticker for the local
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: cryptid fund. You are fantastic on space.radio. I caught that today.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: I think that was last night or night before last.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: Can't remember. Thank you. Thank you, Brian. I appreciate you
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: being here. And so, yes, I'm sorry I missed that earlier, Brian.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: I was busy talking. I was jabbering. But thank you
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: for that. And so, Robbie, man. Come back and see
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: me again, okay? Come back and see me. Come hang out.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: I've always got a weird topic for us to go over.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to hang out in person in
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: a month or so. We are.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: You're coming to the event.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: Yep. I heard you kind of tease it at the
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: first when you had me backstage. Yeah, I'll be there.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to come hang out with Jessica.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: Might have some books to sell.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: Oh you know what we need to tell Sheila to
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: get you a table they're looking for vendors and their
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: vendors are free y'all and I don't believe they're charging
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: anybody to have a table there so if you have
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: a service or any kind of you know things you'd
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: like to sell y'all come out sign up for that
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: y'all come see us it's a free event there's gonna
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: be a lot of people there okay you could there's
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: a way you could probably make a lot make some
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: money out there if y'all got some services and stuff
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: or any kind of you know even cryptid related stuff
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: or whatever you got books get your table out there
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: and come see us. And if you don't have anything
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: to do a vendor table with, just come see us.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: And especially if you got like stories to tell or
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: any kind of, you know, if you just want to
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: come share, share a story or just come meet us,
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: come hang out. Y'all come see us. Okay. And, and
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: that's the lineup right there. And it's, it's pretty fantastic.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: And Robbie will be there. I wasn't going to say,
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: I was kind of joking around. I was like, ah,
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: maybe I can convince Robbie to come. I already knew
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: you were coming. Maybe I can convince him. Yes, you're
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: going to be there.
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: She's already twisted my arm. She did that last week.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm making him be there, y'all. He has no choice.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: Nope. Yeah, she didn't say, hey, you want to? She goes, no,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: just go ahead. Find it out. You're going.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 2: Get over here. Get, get.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 2: And yeah, that's what happens when you become friends with me, y'all.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: I crack the whip. Okay. And you're going to show
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 2: up stiff or else. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited to get to hang out with you next.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: What is that? Like two months, a month and a half,
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're almost in the August. So we got.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: A little over a month. Because that's the first weekend
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: in October, right? It is.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: It's the first. Yeah.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: First. Because the second weekend in the month, I'll be
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: at the Westminster. Westminster. Bigfoot festival in Westminster, South Carolina.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yes. JJ ultra mind control. That's it.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: You got, you've got me pegged. Oh, you eight, one,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: two K a.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: Everyone gets under my Coogee mind tricks when they get
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: around me.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: And, uh, yes. Okay. So, oh yeah, you got the,
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: the South Carolina festival coming up too.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: You guys, there's tons of Bigfoot festivals and events coming
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: up and, uh, any of those that I'm a part of,
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: I do post them on my website and stuff, but, uh,
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: but there's a ton of them that I'm not a
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: part of and y'all can find them. Just look them up,
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: go to Facebook, go to Bigfoot believers and other creatures
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: over there on Facebook. Everything's posted over there. And I
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: see my buddies, Larry and Bruce are in the chat
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: tonight and their moderators over there. And, uh, yeah.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: So this has been awesome. I hope everybody enjoyed the
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: show and I want to thank everybody for being here tonight.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you to Angel and thank you to Brian Bowden
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: as well for the super stickers tonight. Y'all are so sweet.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. And, and yeah, thank you to all
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: my moderators for being here. Thank you for putting the
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: links in here tonight and stuff for Robbie. And thank
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: you to DA again for being here. Robbie, huge thank
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: you to you for showing up for me tonight and,
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: and just being here to hang out.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: I always appreciate you. Anytime. I enjoy it.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I took you up on that. You said any
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: time last time. I was like, come on. Come on,
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: hang out with me again. But I will see you
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: at the event, if not before then, on October the
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: 3rd in Alabama, y'all, at Cornwallis 1828. Y'all come see us.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: And also, come back and see me Saturday night. I'll
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: be here 10 p.m. on The Hunt live. Okay, so
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: it'll be another fantastic show. They're always good shows, y'all. Everybody,
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: please stay safe out there. I hope you guys enjoy
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: the show. We all learned a little something about the
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: Beeman monster today. and circus train wrecks tonight and so
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: much more. So if you're just tuning in, go back
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: and check it out. And I will see you guys
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: back here on Saturday night. Everybody, please be safe out there.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: Keep your head on a swivel and live in no fear.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: All right, Robbie. I'll see you later. Bye, y'all.
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 1: See ya.